Should the Penn State Football Program receive the Death Penalty?

[pied]

I would hope that every kids priority is their education first but if theyre able to choose a school that would give them that plus the campus life a strong athletic program brings, im perfectly fine with that

Yep.

[E-Vol-ution]

I'm sorry but I don't put a whole lot of faith in anything about college football, at least not at the FBS level.

IIf those students do, they are idiots.

Sorry your "college experience " with regard to football might be diluted to that of 98% of other college students.

Guess what you're at school for? Not freaking football!

Just saying.......before the scandal, I would have been proud and felt secure about my kid playing for Joe Pa.
In the blink of an eye........that changed.
I thought the school, the program and Joe Pa were above this type thing.
I did indeed have faith.

[DrEdward]

It seems that at least some Penn State players have had tee shirts made based on their "We Are ..Penn State" chant. Assuming this is not just a spoof photo, who are these Penn State players mad at? The NCAA or some of their coaches and administrators?

Doesn't seem like the slickest P.R. move.

[pied]

It seems that at least some Penn State players have had tee shirts made based on their "We Are ..Penn State" chant. Assuming this is not just a spoof photo, who are these Penn State players mad at? The NCAA or some of their coaches and administrators?

Doesn't seem like the slickest P.R. move.

Agree. I imagine they are pissed at a bunch of people, likely a lot of that anger misguided. I also think that played right, the team/school could gain a lot of fans. This picture is not a way to start, in my opinion.

[slorch]

Just saying.......before the scandal, I would have been proud and felt secure about my kid playing for Joe Pa.
In the blink of an eye........that changed.
I thought the school, the program and Joe Pa were above this type thing.
I did indeed have faith.

We were discussing general students. At least I was.

[slorch]

Not buying what you're selling here. You've starterd over 100 threads on the College Football portion of this board. You even thousands of posts on a board dedicated to Texas Longhorn football.

Now, I don't doubt there's some/many things that make you disillusioned about college football, but to try and come across as some academic purist against college football at the highest levels just doesn't ring true to me.

Note - I've never stated that the PSU students were tremendously hurt in this matter, but I can see their point. For some/many they wanted to go to a good school, a large school, one with many social outlets. Certainly some of them wanted a place to go somewhere with big time D1 football. I doubt any, or very few decided to go to school because of this solely, but there may have been some that did.

There are a lot of victims from this ordeal, most significantly Sandusky's victims. Not comparing the students plights to these, but in my range of sympathy I can spare a bit for those whose team/program is now looked at in a different light and has been sanctioned to the point of competing with FCS scholarship limits in the B1G.

and how many have I started since the Leach debacle? not many.

I should clarify though, the BUSINESS of college football is what I distrust, not the game itself.

[slorch]

That picture is fake and has been making the rounds with everything from "P.O.ed" to "VICTIMS" below WE ARE...

[pied]

and how many have I started since the Leach debacle? not many.

I should clarify though, the BUSINESS of college football is what I distrust, not the game itself.

Only a handful, maybe 4-5. You do have 500+ posts here though.

I can see losing Leach being a pain in the #$$, but I think one could make a case for him being a hard guy to deal with as well. I'd point out the many jobs he interviewed for and didn't get. There were rumors for some time about just that. In addition, he sat jobless for awhile, before getting a job at a pretty bad WSU team.

As a fan, I can see him as being a prtty fun guy to have as your coach though.

[slorch]

Only a handful, maybe 4-5. You do have 500+ posts here though.

I can see losing Leach being a pain in the #$$, but I think one could make a case for him being a hard guy to deal with as well. I'd point out the many jobs he interviewed for and didn't get. There were rumors for some time about just that. In addition, he sat jobless for awhile, before getting a job at a pretty bad WSU team.

As a fan, I can see him as being a prtty fun guy to have as your coach though.

I admire his management style.

As far as his interviewing other schools goes, he worked in Lubbock freaking TExas for 10 years and they had to FORCE him out of town on trumped up charges. To Tech's credit, the single biggest reason he didn't go to U-dub, UCLA, or Miami is that they couldn't afford him. keep in mind the U-dub thingy happened before the Pac12 revenue sharing went through, which in turn enabled Wazzu and Bill Moos to go get Leach.

You touched on a lot of stuff in one paragraph, and I really don't want to rehash the Leach stuff, because it just plain sucks. I am happy he is back in college football, the game; and I am looking forward to seeing what Tech does this season too.

[papaw]

The whorns would be much better off with a coach the quality of Mike Leach.

[slorch]

Leach wouldn't necessarily thrive in that environment.

Buttkissing ain't his strong suit.

[DrEdward]

"Jerry Sandusky is distraught over the NCAA penalties issued to Penn State's football program for the school's handling of his child sexual abuse scandal and maintains his innocence as he awaits sentencing, his defense lawyer said Wednesday.

Attorney Joe Amendola told The Associated Press in a phone interview that Sandusky told him that even if people believe he is guilty of the crimes for which he was convicted in June, it would be ''ridiculous'' to think Penn State administrators engaged in a cover-up."

from the AP Aug 1st

[pied]

For the Big12 folks, most of the athletes will transfer to the schools close to their home. The folks on the east coast have the advantage signing the players.

Good point...

Penn State kicker Anthony Fera will transfer to Texas, a source confirmed to ESPN.com’s Joe Schad.

The redshirt junior kicker has two years of remaining eligibility and will immediately compete for the Longhorns’ starting placekicking and punting duties.

The Houston St. Pius X grad and Cypress, Texas, native decided to join the Longhorns after visiting UT on Sunday and Monday.

...

Fera is the seventh Nittany Lion player who has elected to transfer following the NCAA’s sanctions against Penn State.

On Tuesday, PSU lost starting running back Silas Redd to USC, quarterback Rob Bolden to LSU and tight end Kevin Haplea to Florida State.

Linebacker Khairi Fortt also elected to transfer to Cal, safety Tim Buckley chose N.C. State, and defensive tackle Jamil Pollard reportedly left for Rutgers.

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_...rring-to-texas

[DrEdward]

A Penn State board of trustee member filed an appeal Monday afternoon with the NCAA over sanctions levied against the university after the Jerry Sandusky child sex-abuse scandal.

Three other trustees joined the appeal, which states that the consent decree university president Rodney Erickson signed with the NCAA agreeing to the sanctions is "null and void" because Erickson "lacked the legal authority" to enter into such an agreement without the board's approval.

Trustees and a person with first-hand knowledge of the discussions said the move is a precursor to a federal lawsuit asking a judge to invalidate the sanctions, because trustees expect the NCAA to reject the appeal.

per ESPN

[Mustangman21]

Just said on espn 4 board members have elected to appeal the sanctions. The NCAA has come out and said these sanctions are not eligible to be appealed.

I've never seen anything in my life fail so bad at PR. Are these people ******** or what?

[slcdragonfan]

Just said on espn 4 board members have elected to appeal the sanctions. The NCAA has come out and said these sanctions are not eligible to be appealed.

I've never seen anything in my life fail so bad at PR. Are these people ******** or what?

they are living in a bubble, they should get out and see what the rest of the country thinks about Penn State and their actions/non-actions. Maybe then they will realize this was better than the alternative.

[CCCSportsFan]

Just said on espn 4 board members have elected to appeal the sanctions. The NCAA has come out and said these sanctions are not eligible to be appealed.

I've never seen anything in my life fail so bad at PR. Are these people ******** or what?

No kidding! What in the world are these guys thinking!

[Maroondog]

they are living in a bubble, they should get out and see what the rest of the country thinks about Penn State and their actions/non-actions. Maybe then they will realize this was better than the alternative.

Its difficult to imagine how these people think they will get anywhere with an appeal. Why do they keep bring this up especially since the NCAA has already stated that no appeal will be considered?

The best thing they can do is put this whole affair in the rear view mirror and move on as quickly as possible. They'd be a lot better served to put out as many positives on PS as possible and just let it die.