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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverIsNow View Post
    Yeah, but if you're wanting to do misdirection and whatnot, the Wing T is better for such plays. Either way, like I said, defensive linemen nosediving really disrupts running formations like the wishbone. The I is different.
    I've always liked the Flexbone more just because it can be a 4-wide passing set, 3 RB power set, triple option, Zone read, RNS if you get creative, and speed option. Flexibility wise I have to think the Flexbone is about as hard as it gets to stop and minimizes type casting especially at the high school level. Its a lot easier to find 2-3 decent sized recievers/RB/small TE types than it is to find a great FB, TE, and RB that you need to make the I truly effective. If you have the players the I is great but if you dont the Flexbone gives you a fighting chance to get the most out of the tools you do have
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    I was thinking about Lewisville's display in this game when I started this thread:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHAzh_gpfKI

    Quality stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin109 View Post
    I've always liked the Flexbone more just because it can be a 4-wide passing set, 3 RB power set, triple option, Zone read, RNS if you get creative, and speed option. Flexibility wise I have to think the Flexbone is about as hard as it gets to stop and minimizes type casting especially at the high school level. Its a lot easier to find 2-3 decent sized recievers/RB/small TE types than it is to find a great FB, TE, and RB that you need to make the I truly effective. If you have the players the I is great but if you dont the Flexbone gives you a fighting chance to get the most out of the tools you do have
    Definitely. And that's exactly why you still see the Multi-Flex Offense out there (even in Division I-A) but not the Wishbone. The same style of plays can be run from it, but it's more versatile in the passing department.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KT2000 View Post
    I was thinking about Lewisville's display in this game when I started this thread:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHAzh_gpfKI

    Quality stuff.
    Yeah, that's mostly the triple option. Well-executed I might add. Love the 90s stuff... Wish I had more stuff than Longview's 1997 stuff (and a few others like Garland vs Katy for state in 1999).
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    Yeah, that's mostly the triple option. Well-executed I might add. Love the 90s stuff... Wish I had more stuff than Longview's 1997 stuff (and a few others like Garland vs Katy for state in 1999).
    The best thing Lewisville did in that game aside from the execution was mix up their looks. The wide splits in the Dead T gave Judson a lot of problems.

    I don't see as many teams truly committed to their style of play these days like Lewisville and Judson used to be to their respective styles. There is more emphasis on playing an isolation game today. Most teams I see trying to run the option, either from the Gun or under center, are so limited that you wonder about the thought process.

    Talent limits what a team can do, but that's why collective (and flexible) systems were invented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KT2000 View Post
    The best thing Lewisville did in that game aside from the execution was mix up their looks. The wide splits in the Dead T gave Judson a lot of problems.

    I don't see as many teams truly committed to their style of play these days like Lewisville and Judson used to be to their respective styles. There is more emphasis on playing an isolation game today. Most teams I see trying to run the option, either from the Gun or under center, are so limited that you wonder about the thought process.

    Talent limits what a team can do, but that's why collective (and flexible) systems were invented.
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    as i've stated before, the biggest difficulty in really excelling with the true triple option is finding 3-4 rbs(qb included) who are willing to subjugate themselves to the grunt work when not carrying the ball. too much espin hi-light glory to waste "my" talent blocking/carrying out a fake/ getting hit after the pitch. true option situations are determined by how the defense reacts. if a dc wants to take the ball out of a particular rb's hands, he mostly can. that makes someone else beat you, and disappoints college scouts/recruits. it is all about the schollies, don't you know?
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    I'm seriously liking the pistol. With motion, Wishbone, Coryell, West Coast, and Pro-Sets are easily incorporated. Misdirection plays are great out of the pistol.
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    I'm seriously liking the pistol. With motion, Wishbone, Coryell, West Coast, and Pro-Sets are easily incorporated. Misdirection plays are great out of the pistol.
    I know what you mean. I've been tinkering with a pistoled flexbone where the motions can totally change the set up in a heart beat.

    I can literally change it from a strong i, weak i, 2x2, trips, or 2 back 3 wide set seemlessly. It's awesome.
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    I know what you mean. I've been tinkering with a pistoled flexbone where the motions can totally change the set up in a heart beat.

    I can literally change it from a strong i, weak i, 2x2, trips, or 2 back 3 wide set seemlessly. It's awesome.
    I'm hearing rumblings that LP may be using Wing T along with Pistol sets. Either one could easily transition to the other with motion. Might be an interesting year. Good news is that all OL/RB's return, and this would simply be a build off 2011. 4 or 5 basic sets could turn into 30+ plays in a heartbeat. Especially since LP finally has a QB that can provide an added passing game arsenal along with the normal running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg82 View Post
    I'm hearing rumblings that LP may be using Wing T along with Pistol sets. Either one could easily transition to the other with motion. Might be an interesting year. Good news is that all OL/RB's return, and this would simply be a build off 2011. 4 or 5 basic sets could turn into 30+ plays in a heartbeat. Especially since LP finally has a QB that can provide an added passing game arsenal along with the normal running.
    You can check out my pistol thread. Kind of along those lines. But check out the link Chhspanther put out. All sorts of crazy opportunity with that if you pistol it and use motions like I talk about on my thread.
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    You can check out my pistol thread. Kind of along those lines. But check out the link Chhspanther put out. All sorts of crazy opportunity with that if you pistol it and use motions like I talk about on my thread.
    It does get crazy! We used a form like you are referring to in HS. Our normal offensive set was a complex pro-set (We used tons of variations). But we had one offensive set we call "Sprint Pass" that was basically a pistol formation with an off-set and three motion variations

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    I always thought the wishbone died because noone wanted to risk their QB getting hit every play. I know when I played high school ball, option QBs took a beating.

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