Plano 3 Carter 14

[WildcatFan]

Well what can I say, but congrats to a very tough Cowboy team who showed up to play all 4 quarters.

As far as the Cats.

Gold stars for the Defense that kept it only to 14 considering the speed and play of the Carter O. In a bend don't break D it's tough not to break when the O can't get going.

Offense Grade F I don't have the finals but I doubt we were much over 100 yds total offense.

Fans Grade F very quiet and on their ***** during big Defensive stands and 3rd down plays.

Honorable Mention the Carter Band what a treat those kids rock.

I hope we can put this one behind us as they all count now.

[PlanoTexan]

Humm..4 First downs. 100 yards of Offense. Always bad to lose on your off week. The district race will be exciting.

[c-lisle]

so can anyone give me the lowdown on Carter?

did they run the whole game?
how was the D?(obviously pretty good tonight)

[WildcatFan]

so can anyone give me the lowdown on Carter?

did they run the whole game?
how was the D?(obviously pretty good tonight)

Honestly they were good all the way around. They moved the ball on the ground, although they had a ton of flags, foul starts etc.

When they went to the air they lit up the Plano secondary one on a great QB roll out to hit a weakside drag play for a score.

Their O-line was huge, although I thought our D matched up well.

Their Defense was Big up front and fast in the secondary and at LB's they are a solid team and should expect them to go deep in PO's this year. Maybe not enough to win but will be in the hunt.

Our offnese just plain sucked, I don't know any other way to describe it. I am embarased quite honestly

[c-lisle]

Honestly they were good all the way around. They moved the ball on the ground, although they had a ton of flags, foul starts etc.

When they went to the air they lit up the Plano secondary one on a great QB roll out to hit a weakside drag play for a score.

Their O-line was huge, although I thought our D matched up well.

Their Defense was Big up front and fast in the secondary and at LB's they are a solid team and should expect them to go deep in PO's this year. Maybe not enough to win but will be in the hunt.

Our offnese just plain sucked, I know other way to describe it. I am embarased quite honestly


thanks, Longview plays them in two weeks and we have a bye next week...sounds like we have our hands full...

[da wiz]

congrats to them dallas carter cowboys...

[WildcatFan]

From Dallas Morning News

PLANO – It's the spread and the dead.

A coach said that a few years ago when his high school switched to the spread offense. Everyone would probably switch eventually, he believed, because the teams that didn't wouldn't survive.

But a pair of tradition-rich survivors put on an old-school show Friday night at John Clark Stadium. It was smash-mouth football, and for Carter, it was smash-down football in a 14-3 victory.

Carter (3-0), the No. 7 team in SportsDay's Class 5A area rankings, knocked off No. 6 Plano (2-1) with a familiar formula of stifling defense and clock-draining running. But Carter's Wing-T offense reached its greatest heights when quarterback Charles Lewis looked downfield to pass.

His passing numbers were far from the eye-popping type often churned out by a spread offense. But 5-of-6 for 111 yards and one touchdown was just as effective.

"We knew the few passes we threw were going to be the difference," said Curnelius Arnick, who caught three passes for 75 yards and a touchdown.

Carter's 203-yard rushing performance took care of the rest, along with a defense that allowed Plano only 106 yards. Plano's big offensive line wore down opponents the last two weeks, but it couldn't open the same running holes against Carter.

The result: more Plano punts (five) than first downs (four).

"We locked them down, we showed them what defense was," said Arnick, who also plays defensive end. "You see they didn't score any touchdowns."

Fans saw that the Plano offense was barely on the field. Carter, meanwhile, held on to the ball for long stretches – the longest coming in the second quarter on its first touchdown drive.

The 16-play, 51-yard drive took nearly nine minutes off the clock and gave Carter a 7-3 lead. It ground down the Plano defense with 15 runs, but the biggest play was the only pass.

After a holding penalty put Carter in a third-and-20, Lewis rolled out and found Arnick for a 19-yard gain. On the next play, Carter converted its third fourth down of the drive.

Five runs later, Carter finally got in the end zone.

And Plano's defense finally got a rest, which it needed on a night when the offense couldn't move the ball. The only Plano points came on Bobby Schattle's 26-yard field goal in the first quarter, which was set up by a Carter fumble that gave Plano the ball 30 yards from a touchdown.

Carter's offense didn't light up the scoreboard, either. But it finished with 314 yards and accomplished what both teams wanted to do: hang on to the ball and wear down the opponent.

And while Plano completed just one of its nine passes, Carter made its biggest plays through the air. Lewis' completions were for 16, 19, 20, 36 and 20 yards.

It was the backbreaker for Plano, which had won 16 of its last 17 games.

"We can do everything," Lewis said. "I thought it was going to open up, because they thought we were going to run it down their throats. When I did throw it, my receivers did a good job of going up there and getting it."

And pulling in a victory that should help Carter build a new reputation.

Spread the word: Carter can pass, too.

[LoboFan07]

Spread the word: Carter can pass, too.

Joy...Just what I need to watch. *shakes head*

Can't wait until we face those Cowboys. Gonna be a fun one at Lobo Stadium in two weeks.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

so can anyone give me the lowdown on Carter?

did they run the whole game?
how was the D?(obviously pretty good tonight)

They passed like they were SLC on some key drives. It seemed Plano was in Goal line defense the whole night the left side of the defense allowed way to many yards outside the end.

It wasn't the defenses fault tonight. It is squarely on the Offense. Our QB SUCKS, BRENCE SUCKS and our OLINE got their A** Kicked by Carter's DLINE.

If you can't control the line of Scrimmage and you have no passing game what so ever. Then you will lose to good teams. I am sorry to say but Plano will struggle to be the 4th place team in 95A. I hope I am wrong. The 4th place playoff team will come down to Plano West and Plano. Whoever wins that game will make the Playoffs.

Extremely disappointed.

[grayowl60]

Great game Cowboys... CLASS act;)

[FeeltheHaka]

Plano people, losing to Carter is nothing to be ashamed of. They have always had good teams, and a good team can make any team look more bad than what they really are.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Great game Cowboys... CLASS act;)

Just like Plano. To BAD Brence is still their.

[da hawaiian]

I've been thinking all along, Carter is for real. This team is going to get better as the season goes along. Size, speed, and now they have a passing game...Scarry.

I think we should exclude including players names when being critical. These are kids after all. It's not easy trying to follow a talent like Sfikas

[Maroon Cathead]

Carter played a good game. They are well coached, big, and athletic.

They employ a bruising running game with a huge line. A credit to the Plano defense for not wilting after being left on the field much of the second half.

The Carter defense was stifling. Particularly, the Carter defensive line dominated Plano's offensive line. Plano allowed too much penetration and couldn't maintain blocks.

Carter is a formidable opponent, but they appear to have two obvious weaknesses. They seem to lack depth, and their punter hurt them.

If they had more depth, then this would not just be a dangerous team but a monster of a team.

Tough game for Plano.

Go easy on Coach Brence, Plano Wildcat Fan, he's a good coach. Things will work out.

[reed35]

Plano people, losing to Carter is nothing to be ashamed of. They have always had good teams, and a good team can make any team look more bad than what they really are.

as un prepaired as they looked is what is bad. Carter did not make Plano look as bad any where near as bad as Plano made themselves look.

[Carter Cowboy]

Really hate that I missed the game. To be honest I think plano still has a good team...and I think saying fourth place may be a stretch...I think they'll be in the top 3 spots.

The thing that I am surprised and most proud of is the passing....b/c being at a playoff game and hearing fans and parents scream "PASS THE BALL"...is frustrating...esp when you drive hours to make the game.:cool:

BUt I must also credit the plano D. They kept the score in check...allowing only 14 against our line(face it, those guys are big)....not bad at all. Looking foward to next years match up.

Any one seen Mesquite or longview this year...thoughts....our last encounters with them were less than satsifying....17-7 2nd round loss to LOBOS and a devestating 28-27 loss to the SKEETERS in round two!

Hoping the next two games will be just as intense!

Good luck wild cat on the rest of your season.

[reed35]

Carter played a good game. They are well coached, big, and athletic.

They employ a bruising running game with a huge line. A credit to the Plano defense for not wilting after being left on the field much of the second half.

The Carter defense was stifling. Particularly, the Carter defensive line dominated Plano's offensive line. Plano allowed too much penetration and couldn't maintain blocks.

Carter is a formidable opponent, but they appear to have two obvious weaknesses. They seem to lack depth, and their punter hurt them.

If they had more depth, then this would not just be a dangerous team but a monster of a team.

Tough game for Plano.

Go easy on Coach Brence, Plano Wildcat Fan, he's a good coach. Things will work out.

right. i am glad you beleive that

[dragonsdaddy]

something happened before the game last night that would have set off the wildest round of accusations of classlessness etc. had a certain green team done the same the night before, the carter band came out to a round of boos during the plano alma mater. what made the booing somewhat unsettling was that the wildcats had done the same thing, to their own band, 20 seconds earlier. i hope and believe it was a failure to communicate. i expect the classy coach brence will have some strong remonitions for someone next week.

[reed35]

that was kinda comical.

[CCBoy]

Plano's d-line didn't allow much up the middle. First time I didn't see Carter with atleast one big breakout rushing play. Carter inched up the field like a slow dripping faucet. 3 to 4 yards at a time with a pass play thrown in every now and then.

Plano has the same problems that Carter has. Coach Wilson has taken flack from fans, parents, and players for not passing in big games. I think he had an ear full last year after the Garland game, and he seems to be coming out of his little shell now. Our fingers are crossed.

Keep your head up Plano! Your d-fense may have to win some games for you. That's what ours have to do.

Good Luck and see you next year!

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Plano people, losing to Carter is nothing to be ashamed of. They have always had good teams, and a good team can make any team look more bad than what they really are.

I agree. No shame to lose to a very good team. My concern is the remainder of the season. AS goes the QB as goes Plano. I just don't see the current situation as the answer.

[PESHpanther]

i heard someone got stabbed in the stands last night on the carter side?

[reed35]

i heard someone got stabbed in the stands last night on the carter side?

i haven't heard that.

The police went in the Plano student section during halftime. heard there was a fight but not sure.

[StormingCowboy]

i haven't heard that.

The police went in the Plano student section during halftime. heard there was a fight but not sure.


Come on now. If something negative happened concerning Carter, it would've been on the news and in the paper before players even had a chance to get back home from the game.

[reed35]

Come on now. If something negative happened concerning Carter, it would've been on the news and in the paper before players even had a chance to get back home from the game.
sorry man....haven't heard anything on Carter and do not watch the news.

I did watch the police go in the PLANO student section.

[WildcatFan]

Well I am not very happy with how the tone is turning on this string especially from Plano Wildcat Fan.

I am the first to play arm-chair QB and I feel there are somethings our QB can work on, but I also know this kid and he has a lot of character and is a great athelete. Let's keep it constrctuive and put some things in perspective.

The fact that Plano's O was shut down was soley not on the QB's head enough blame can go around from the line on.

I think if we put it in perspective we have some waepons who have been out nursing minor injuries. Its no secret that Henderson has had a sprained foot and the reason he is not playing, is not so much from the sprain, rather why risk really injuring him in non-distrct games that do not matter. So what if we are 12-1 10-2 or 13-0 lets make the playoffs.

I expect to see him back for Allen and this will change the dynamic of the running game that will open things up for the QB.

As far as Brence obvioulsy PWF has some issues, I on the otherhand I am a defender of Brence he can win given the talent and isn't that what it's all about. I mean Brence and the staff are not the ones executing it has to be the kids. Play calling IMO has nothing to do with it.

I coached some kids to the city chamipionship in Plano Y Ball 2 years straight (I know Pop Warner ball may seem insignificant but it is highly competitive in Plano) running nothing but dive the same play over and over. Why because my kids could execute and it didn't matter if they knew where we were coming or not.

[dragonsdaddy]

i sat on the carter side from the late second qtr til the 4th and didn't see anything but a fantastic halftime show by the carter band. sorry, no help from me as far as witnessing anything untoward.

[WildcatFan]

i sat on the carter side from the late second qtr til the 4th and didn't see anything but a fantastic halftime show by the carter band. sorry, no help from me as far as witnessing anything untoward.

Man that Carter band was great the funniest thing was after when the Plano Band took the field the PA announcer tried to fire everyone up by screaming "NOW LISTEN TO THE AWSOME HIGH ENERGY SOUNDS OF THE PLANO BAND AS THEY PLAY IGOR STRAVINSKI AND JOHANN BACH"

I was about as fired up as geting a root canal. they had a tough act to follow.

I am proud of our band though.

[Lucky 7's]

Man that Carter band was great the funniest thing was after when the Plano Band took the field the PA announcer tried to fire everyone up by screaming "NOW LISTEN TO THE AWSOME HIGH ENERGY SOUNDS OF THE PLANO BAND AS THEY PLAY IGOR STRAVINSKI AND JOHANN BACH"

I was about as fired up as geting a root canal. they had a tough act to follow.

I am proud of our band though.
Watching both bands' half time shows would have been fun to watch.

[WildcatFan]

Watching both bands' half time shows would have been fun to watch.

Believe me it was a treat we went from Brickhouse to Bach in less than 15 minutes.

[The Great Evaluator]

Count me as one who was surprised by this score, Carter is off to a good start. Let's go to the tape!

Carter vs. Plano (http://insidehighschoolfootball.com/video.aspx?itemid=1001212332)

[c-lisle]

Any one seen Mesquite or longview this year....


well i am a longview fan and see them play all the time......we have a bye week next week so we will be ready when you get here......we have a good backfield and showed alst night that we can pass..


the D is the usual......not all that big but fast which is the key.....

you will be our first 5a texas test this year so it will tell us alot about our team.....

as far as Mesquite goes I thought they were not that good last year and returned alot so I am not sold on them this year....yet. I guess you play them next week.

[Dargason]

Believe me it was a treat we went from Brickhouse to Bach in less than 15 minutes.

From "Drumline" to Stravinsky would be a more accurate description... (there was no Bach)

[TexasRed6x]

Just like Plano. To BAD Brence is still their.


I feel your pain there , we still have Rackley it could be worse.

[Plano]

well i'm not trying to knock carter they had a good win there defense stopped our offense cold but i dont necessarily think they have a passing game now...i mean its pretty easy to catch a 20 yard pass with no one around you, basically our pass coverage sucked i dont know what happened but when they ran the boot our defense didnt do anything they were supposed too. but even without pass they would have won, whats a good defense if you cant even score on offense, like the fumble recovery which led to a 3 and out by plano.

[carter cowboys]

Joy...Just what I need to watch. *shakes head*

Can't wait until we face those Cowboys. Gonna be a fun one at Lobo Stadium in two weeks.
if you think south garland brought it to you...wait for the cowboys to head down hwy 20

[CCBoy]

i heard someone got stabbed in the stands last night on the carter side?
That was me...............I accidently stabbed the roof of my mouth with the straw in my soda. Didn't know everyone knew about that. Naw man. It was a nice game as usual and very peaceful. We are used to fabricated news like that.

[c-lisle]

if you think south garland brought it to you...wait for the cowboys to head down hwy 20


LOL....already talking smack huh. You have mesquite first and I will be interested to see how it turns out.....I'm really not impressed with Mesquite or Carter to this point.

[StormingCowboy]

LOL....already talking smack huh. You have mesquite first and I will be interested to see how it turns out.....I'm really not impressed with Mesquite or Carter to this point.

Me either. However, I was impressed by Carter's performance against Plano.
I'm not even thinking about the Lobos right now. We have to deal with those darn Skeeters this week! We owe them.

[WildcatFan]

That was me...............I accidently stabbed the roof of my mouth with the straw in my soda. Didn't know everyone knew about that. Naw man. It was a nice game as usual and very peaceful. We are used to fabricated news like that.

Yeah rumors an innuendo don't you love it. I heard nor saw anything but a bunch of Cowboy's fans coming out to enjoy the game. No fights nothing like that.

[c-lisle]

can someone tell me about Carter's running backs and defense?

my estimation of them tells me their strentgh is their Oline. From what I have seen of their RBs they are nothing spectacular and I know they are a run heavy team. I know nothing about their defense but 4a Kimball(who was crushed by Tyler Lee and Lufkin) scored 20 on them and JT(who is struggling) scored 22 on them so I'm not impressed.

[dragonsdaddy]

can someone tell me about Carter's running backs and defense?

my estimation of them tells me their strentgh is their Oline. From what I have seen of their RBs they are nothing spectacular and I know they are a run heavy team. I know nothing about their defense but 4a Kimball(who was crushed by Tyler Lee and Lufkin) scored 20 on them and JT(who is struggling) scored 22 on them so I'm not impressed.
it was hard to get a read on the rbs, as they were hidden behind a huge red curtain. none looked all-world, and none were going to be arm-tackled. i strongly believe that there are 2 hundred rbs that could have done just the same behind that line. the defense flew to the ball, and showed remarkable flow to the ball. i still believe had plano done anything close to misdirection, or thrown anytime other than emergency-time, they might have picked up an extra first down or ten.

[StormingCowboy]

can someone tell me about Carter's running backs and defense?

my estimation of them tells me their strentgh is their Oline. From what I have seen of their RBs they are nothing spectacular and I know they are a run heavy team. I know nothing about their defense but 4a Kimball(who was crushed by Tyler Lee and Lufkin) scored 20 on them and JT(who is struggling) scored 22 on them so I'm not impressed.


Their backs are OK. They fit in the system. The defense is ok. However, they played a great game against Plano.

[c-lisle]

Their backs are OK. They fit in the system. The defense is ok. However, they played a great game against Plano.


Is the little guy the main RB. I read in Daves mage that he runs a 4.6 40. Is that true. I eould think Cater could find some faster guys than that. He looks alot like Longview's FB except maybe a little shorter. Longview's FB is 5'8'' 170 lbs and runs a 4.6 40.

[c-lisle]

it was hard to get a read on the rbs, as they were hidden behind a huge red curtain. none looked all-world, and none were going to be arm-tackled. i strongly believe that there are 2 hundred rbs that could have done just the same behind that line. the defense flew to the ball, and showed remarkable flow to the ball. i still believe had plano done anything close to misdirection, or thrown anytime other than emergency-time, they might have picked up an extra first down or ten.


so then teh Oline is just really good....that's what I thought.....

IMO it is going to be difficult for Carter to come to Longview and win....

[StormingCowboy]

Is the little guy the main RB. I read in Daves mage that he runs a 4.6 40. Is that true. I eould think Cater could find some faster guys than that. He looks alot like Longview's FB except maybe a little shorter. Longview's FB is 5'8'' 170 lbs and runs a 4.6 40.


Is not little, he's just short. He weigh's about 190.

[c-lisle]

Is not little, he's just short. He weigh's about 190.


so 5'7'' 190 lbs....wow guy is a rock.....now i see why he runs a 4.6 40


i think daves mag has him weighing less than that...


so is he the primary RB?

[StormingCowboy]

so 5'7'' 190 lbs....wow guy is a rock.....now i see why he runs a 4.6 40


i think daves mag has him weighing less than that...


so is he the primary RB?


There's really no one primary back at Carter. He may have the most carries one game and 2nd most another. Coach Wilson constantly rotates backs in and out.

[c-lisle]

There's really no one primary back at Carter. He may have the most carries one game and 2nd most another. Coach Wilson constantly rotates backs in and out.


ok.....can you tell me about the other backs?

thanks

[carter cowboys]

Its Red Storm Now

[ScottS]

I'd like to see SLC vs Carter someday.

[StormingCowboy]

ok.....can you tell me about the other backs?

thanks

one of them is 5'11 180 4.4 speed
Another one is 5'10 210, a monster, bowling ball type 4.5
another one is 5'9 175, super quick 4.4
Another is 5'9 190, power back, 4.5 speed
Another 5'10 175 solid back 4.5 speed
Another 5'7 175 4.4 speed

[c-lisle]

one of them is 5'11 180 4.4 speed
Another one is 5'10 210, a monster, bowling ball type 4.5
another one is 5'9 175, super quick 4.4
Another is 5'9 190, power back, 4.5 speed
Another 5'10 175 solid back 4.5 speed
Another 5'7 175 4.4 speed


well that sounds about right....man thats alot of talent in the backfield...you may be more difficult to stop than I thought.....the only one I have heard about though is the 5'7'' one.....

[StormingCowboy]

well that sounds about right....man thats alot of talent in the backfield...you may be more difficult to stop than I thought.....the only one I have heard about though is the 5'7'' one.....

...because he's been playing on varsity with significant playing time since he was a soph. And he's been the best out of the bunch.

[c-lisle]

...because he's been playing on varsity with significant playing time since he was a soph. And he's been the best out of the bunch.


"stop the run game and you beat them". I think Carter is the only team that holds true for more than Longview. I am excited about seeing you in action. How is your pass game this year?

[StormingCowboy]

"stop the run game and you beat them". I think Carter is the only team that holds true for more than Longview. I am excited about seeing you in action. How is your pass game this year?

Word is Carter can't pass. This year this is how is how they've done:

First game: 2 TD passes
Second game 1 TD pass
Third game 1 TD. QB went 5-6 for 111 yards.

I guess thats ok for a team that can't pass.

[c-lisle]

Word is Carter can't pass. This year this is how is how they've done:

First game: 2 TD passes
Second game 1 TD pass
Third game 1 TD. QB went 5-6 for 111 yards.

I guess thats ok for a team that can't pass.


well like longview you don't need the pass often....but when you do it is usually desperation time......