JTK where are you hiding??

[SLCDRGN]

We are waiting on your positive spin relating the the Longhorn pounding!! I have been waiting on your arrival and you are nowhere to be found. Please don't jump off the bandwagon yet. Give it a few more losses. I promise you, TU will lose more ball games......you can bank on it!!

[GarlandOwl06]

We are waiting on your positive spin relating the the Longhorn pounding!! I have been waiting on your arrival and you are nowhere to be found. Please don't jump off the bandwagon yet. Give it a few more losses. I promise you, TU will lose more ball games......you can bank on it!!

hahaha I was asking myself the same question!

[SLCDRGN]

hahaha I was asking myself the same question!

Yeah, the mouth of Central Texas has gone cold. He lives on the computer day and night and spouts TU this & TU that and hammers anyone that does not share in his TU lust. Now with a loss added to their record, he has moved on. Typical TU fair weather fans. I can't wait for sports-talk radio in Austin tomorrow. I will listen all day. I may even call Craig Way and throw my 2 cents in......What an outstanding weekend!! TU loses and SLC wins big once again!!

[ktchamp97]

Yeah, the mouth of Central Texas has gone cold. He lives on the computer day and night and spouts TU this & TU that and hammers anyone that does not share in his TU lust. Now with a loss added to their record, he has moved on. Typical TU fair weather fans. I can't wait for sports-talk radio in Austin tomorrow. I will listen all day. I may even call Craig Way and throw my 2 cents in......What an outstanding weekend!! TU loses and SLC wins big once again!!
Unless your team is USC (last recent champion) or Ohio State (last team to beat Texas), you've got nothing on Texas fans. If you're an Ag as I suspect, get back to us when you win anything of significance...moral victories excluded.

jtk is no fair weather fan. He'll be back.

For the record, we lost to a better team. They made us pay for our mistakes like all good teams do. We got what we deserved with how poorly we performed. Oh well.

[singularity]

Unless your team is USC (last recent champion) or Ohio State (last team to beat Texas), you've got nothing on Texas fans. If you're an Ag as I suspect, get back to us when you win anything of significance...moral victories excluded.

jtk is no fair weather fan. He'll be back.

For the record, we lost to a better team. They made us pay for our mistakes like all good teams do. We got what we deserved with how poorly we performed. Oh well.
Very well said. Just because Texas lost doesn't mean that they are going to loose to any schmuck team that shares the field with them.

As of right now, the only team that i see on the horizon that stands a chance to beat Texas is Oklahoma. Texas was overrated for what they were fielding in their offense and secondary. The recievers couldn't catch, the secondary couldn't cover, the coaching wasn't good enough for a national championship team, and McCoy is green. It is only the second game of the season. Ohio State was flat out better. It doesn't matter whether you get to the redzone. It is what happens when you are in it that matters, as was obvious with Texas the other night. A fumble in the redzone is just unacceptable. The score should have been much closer than it was.

When Texas was playing that "prevent" defense before the half and Ohio scored on that fantstic TD pass, the only thing that it prevented was Texas from winning.

[stevefoxsc]

even though me and him never hit off at best at times but i know hes a die hard horn fan possibly bigger than me i drove back with a pianful loss and spent alot of money going there after the 2nd half kicked in the game got more painful by the minutes jtk is a true a horn fan and like me would never ditch his team like that i'm sure he doesn't feel like getting into it with all the aggie and sooner fans cause it was predictable as always the minute the horns lose aggies and sooners over coat it but in time while us horns sit back and handle what we must oct 7 the sooner fans will have that same painful feeling to deal with and come that oh so lovely day after thanks giving we'll be sure to over coat the victory the aggies wish they could have had.

[BAMF cowboy]

guys he probably just chillin at sixth street

[dragonsdaddy]

Very well said. Just because Texas lost doesn't mean that they are going to loose to any schmuck team that shares the field with them.

As of right now, the only team that i see on the horizon that stands a chance to beat Texas is Oklahoma. Texas was overrated for what they were fielding in their offense and secondary. The recievers couldn't catch, the secondary couldn't cover, the coaching wasn't good enough for a national championship team, and McCoy is green. It is only the second game of the season. Ohio State was flat out better. It doesn't matter whether you get to the redzone. It is what happens when you are in it that matters, as was obvious with Texas the other night. A fumble in the redzone is just unacceptable. The score should have been much closer than it was.

When Texas was playing that "prevent" defense before the half and Ohio scored on that fantstic TD pass, the only thing that it prevented was Texas from winning.the score could have been closer or it easily could have been worse. at least once in the first half, i saw ginn running free behind all dbs and was overthrown for a sure td(how do you go about overthrowing teddy ginn?). pass coverage was as porous as i've seen out of tu in ages. brown needs to hurry back, and he'd better be deion-like. and the oc still sucks, just like he did last year and the year before and the year before. he's an old dog and he hasn't learned any new tricks.

[ktchamp97]

tOSU could've scored 40 if they wanted to, but they went to typical Tressel-ball in the second half and just played to end the game. Our defensive gameplan was horrid.

[Favpack]

Makes you realize this D wasn't and won't be a shut down type D. Good, but not that good.

OSU would win this game 9 out of 10 times - at Austin.

[yankee]

Yeah, the mouth of Central Texas has gone cold. He lives on the computer day and night and spouts TU this & TU that and hammers anyone that does not share in his TU lust. Now with a loss added to their record, he has moved on. Typical TU fair weather fans. I can't wait for sports-talk radio in Austin tomorrow. I will listen all day. I may even call Craig Way and throw my 2 cents in......What an outstanding weekend!! TU loses and SLC wins big once again!!
most of that is true except the fact that jtk is no fair weather fan...he's a ut fan to the point to where it's a fault...

[lonny23]

tOSU could've scored 40 if they wanted to, but they went to typical Tressel-ball in the second half and just played to end the game. Our defensive gameplan was horrid.
That's my kind of Longhorn team. I know somebody that would like to go for 40!:D

[BAMF cowboy]

most of that is true except the fact that jtk is no fair weather fan...he's a ut fan to the point to where it's a fault...

agreed

no need to trash jtk like that. yes he's very condescending with his horns, but who wouldn't when you're team is (was) the best. He'll be back.

[dragonsdaddy]

i wonder if jtk had a side bet with an osu poster concerning the game and is only posting on an ohio board for a week. it certainly isn't because he's fair-weather, or a chicken. i hope he tries my crow recipe. maybe because of the heat, he got some bad crow and has had to seek medical care for indigestion. is there anything about crow that's not bad?

[bowiedawgs01]

Let him mourn without bashing him. I do the same thing. If my team loses (which they did) I don't watch espn or the news, I don't go to espn.com, I don't go to message boards much, etc. I just don't want to think about it. That doesn't make us bandwagon fans. In fact, quite the opposite. It's called being a diehard.

It was a game of missed opportunities. Who knows what happens if we go up 7-0 instead of fumbling and giving it to them on the 50, just to go down 0-7. Or the many dropped passes. Or the many missed opportunities our RS Freshman QB had, when he checked down to his backs too quickly. It goes on and on. There are many IFs. We didn't get it done that night. Saying they would win 9/10 in Austin is going a bit far though.

Texas will be favored in the rest of their games. There are 3 games remaining that I'm worried about: OU, @Tech and @NU. We will field more talent than any team we will play from here on out (OU is about even here except for OL).

aggy gloating over Moral Victory #23,597 is laughable.

[dragonsdaddy]

it is not as much fun always being "right" without the ballast that is jtk concerning tu.

[Favpack]

i wonder if jtk had a side bet with an osu poster concerning the game and is only posting on an ohio board for a week. it certainly isn't because he's fair-weather, or a chicken. i hope he tries my crow recipe. maybe because of the heat, he got some bad crow and has had to seek medical care for indigestion. is there anything about crow that's not bad?
I think you nailed it - or, he is up to his eyeballs with posts over on the orangeblood forum - which is much more red than orange from what kt says.

[lonny23]

Let him mourn without bashing him. I do the same thing. If my team loses (which they did) I don't watch espn or the news, I don't go to espn.com, I don't go to message boards much, etc. I just don't want to think about it. That doesn't make us bandwagon fans. In fact, quite the opposite. It's called being a diehard.

It was a game of missed opportunities. Who knows what happens if we go up 7-0 instead of fumbling and giving it to them on the 50, just to go down 0-7. Or the many dropped passes. Or the many missed opportunities our RS Freshman QB had, when he checked down to his backs too quickly. It goes on and on. There are many IFs. We didn't get it done that night. Saying they would win 9/10 in Austin is going a bit far though.

Texas will be favored in the rest of their games. There are 3 games remaining that I'm worried about: OU, @Tech and @NU. We will field more talent than any team we will play from here on out (OU is about even here except for OL).

aggy gloating over Moral Victory #23,597 is laughable.No, jtk has to pay the piper. If you're going to run your mouth, you better be big enough to come on here and talk about it. I know the guy is hurting, but he should've been on here by now because he sure would've been if UT had won. Sometimes I don't feel like coming on here to meet the lynch mob, but I do it anyway. It's the least I can do when I'm wrong. If I'm going to brag about being right or revel in victory, I'm required to suck it up and take whatever abuse ends up coming my way in defeat.

[BDB]

it is not as much fun always being "right" without the ballast that is jtk concerning tu.AAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: IT NOT TU!!!! ITS UT!!!!!! STOP!!!! university of texas!!!! not texas university!!!!!:mad:

ok srry bout that but yea closest game will be nebaska in the sea of red.

[SeguinMatadors]

No, jtk has to pay the piper. If you're going to run your mouth, you better be big enough to come on here and talk about it. I know the guy is hurting, but he should've been on here by now because he sure would've been if UT had won. Sometimes I don't feel like coming on here to meet the lynch mob, but I do it anyway. It's the least I can do when I'm wrong. If I'm going to brag about being right or revel in victory, I'm required to suck it up and take whatever abuse ends up coming my way in defeat.

Ditto on that. I have done itin the past.. not fun.. but it is something you have to do.

[lonny23]

AAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: IT NOT TU!!!! ITS UT!!!!!! STOP!!!! university of texas!!!! not texas university!!!!!:mad:

ok srry bout that but yea closest game will be nebaska in the sea of red.
Nebraska might be the closest game, but that's a game you'll win. I'll say now that TT beats Texas and OU has a chance.

[dragonsdaddy]

AAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: IT NOT TU!!!! ITS UT!!!!!! STOP!!!! university of texas!!!! not texas university!!!!!:mad:

ok srry bout that but yea closest game will be nebaska in the sea of red.
if you talk to more than zero tu fans/alums, it is very likely they'll tell you pretty quick it is THE university-thus the tu. it also upsets the populace sporting the b.o.

[BDB]

if you talk to more than zero tu fans/alums, it is very likely they'll tell you pretty quick it is THE university-thus the tu. it also upsets the populace sporting the b.o.
and my head explodes

[ktchamp97]

if you talk to more than zero tu fans/alums, it is very likely they'll tell you pretty quick it is THE university-thus the tu. it also upsets the populace sporting the b.o.and my head explodes

LOL :D

Our resident wordsmith strikes again.

[dragonsdaddy]

LOL :D

Our resident wordsmith strikes again.
another one bites the dust. that song was what the wildcat band played at the end of most games back in the day. except for big bad john(see earl) it was one of the most appropos songs.

[KT2000]

Ddaddy, I'll ask you point blank.

Did you play the "Architect" in the movie The Matrix Reloaded? :D

[jtk1519]

This thread is further proof that the very heart of this board is sustained by my written word. :D

I don't run and hide. You that know me, know better. The children responsible for such accusations make me laugh.

This whole weekend has been an experience for me. I was originally supposed to spend all day Saturday in Austin watching the game at Scholtz with wide-e-wide and some of his family, but as is often the case, the best laid plans of mice and men often go awry and I had to spend the weekend in Abilene. I was fortunate enough though to roll into town about an hour before kick-off and so my brother and I watched the game at Buffalo Wild Wings and that in itself deserves it's own paragraph.

It wasn't Austin, but Wild Wings was packed as usual and it was a great mix of mostly Horns and a few Buckeye fans. The place was rowdy and electric. I guess what made it so special was the fact that Colt McCoy grew up just a couple minutes outside of town and because of that, Abilene loves Colt... more than I expected. When the starting lineups were announced and Colt took the field, the roar was deafening. I don't think I have ever watched a game like that with so many people who feel such a strong bond to one player. Colt is our guy.

As luck would have it, we shared an area with a couple of Ohio State fans and we had a blast all game long. I know a lot of Texas fans were upset with the outcome and all, but that is what you expect of big games. Sometimes the breaks go your ways and sometimes they don't. Sometimes your team as all the experience and sometimes they don't. This was a classic two game series between two of the biggest, most powerful, legendary, successful and popular teams on the planet. In some strange way, it almost seems right that the series split.

As for the game itself, there were goods and bads. I'm by nature an optimist so I saw a lot of good things and some great stuff to build on. Personally, (and I will acknowledge that I may be in the minority here) I was so impressed with Colt. For a QB to do as well as he did making only his second start in front of the largest crowd to ever watch a football game in the state of Texas and in quite possibly the biggest game ever played in the state of Texas, I thought he did damn good. He was tough and took some nasty licks, but popped right back up. He made some freshman mistakes, but for the most part, he played beyond his years.

I was very impressed with the O-line and running game... especially Selvin. Going into the season, a lot of publications credited Texas with having the best D-line in the nation with Ohio State being a close second and I believe that now. The duo of Patterson and Pitcock make of the best DT combo in the nation and we all knew this going in, but I was very pleased with the way Texas ran the ball and I could not have been more happy with the line.

Keeping with the D-line, I think Texas has one of the best front sevens I have ever seen in Austin. Ohio State's O-line is very big and very experienced and I thought the Texas front four held there own and even beat the OSU front five on numerous occasions. I also love Texas' LBs and they were without their best coverage LB in Kelso who was out with an injury. Muck did a fantastic job in Kelson's place and I think the future for that group is as bright as I have seen.

I'm also gonna throw some praise on the safeties... especially the Griffin twins who were #1 and #2 in tackles with a combined 26 tackles (and Marcus left for a while with an injury). In his place I saw Robert Joseph (a true freshman) make some great plays.

Now, obviously a team doesn't lose 24-7 without some bad play somewhere. I was disappointed with the pass defense. Gonzo was given way too much room and he made Texas pay. I was very disappointed with the corners. That is where Brown's loss hurt and I hope Mack, Chizik and Akina chain him to a chair and show him every blown coverage and every big pass play over and over again while Mad Dog hits him over the head with a foam bat. Ross looked like he was trying to do too much in Brown's absence. He cant play right and left corner, but it looked like he tried at times and it cost him bad.

Now, I'm about to rip into one particular Texas player by name and I'm not going to be nice. I just got home after driving four hours from Abilene back here to San Antonio so I've had time to think about this. I have never been so disappointed and mad a the performance of one Texas player more than I have been of Billy Pittman so far. Against N. Texas he had more drops than catches and he was pathetic against OSU. I like the idea of using those quick passes to the Quan to try and spread the field, but those only work if the slot receiver does a good job of blocking and Pittman did a piss-poor job. On top of that, I think his fumble cost Texas the game.

It's hard to look at a game and say that things changed on one play, but there is no question that the entire game changed for Texas after that fumble. Why an experienced, good receiver is extending the ball out like that couple of yards short of the goal line while in the process of being tackled is simply beyond me. Animal Jr. made a great play on the ball, but there is no excuse for a veteran WR to do something that stupid. BTW, don't tell me how Billy caught the TD pass... I don't want to hear it. As a vet., he was supposed to be the one bailing the freshman QB out of trouble. How ironic was it then that it was the freshman QB trying to bail the vet. out when Colt chased down and made a great TD saving tackle on the guy that recovered Pittman's fumble. I don't know what his problem his, but if I were Davis, Pittman would be benched next week, The Quan would move over to flanker and Jones and/or Shipley should move up to that sub-B position. At least until Pittman gets his act together.

In the end, a lot of promise was shown and some weakness were exposed. Of course, the best way to fix a cracked wall is to first find the crack, and at least now they know for sure what needs to be fixed. Colt will only get better with age and if the guys that are actually supposed to catch his pass decide to do just that, there is so much potential with that offense. Same goes for the defense. They proved they can stop a great running game, but now they need to work on the secondary. Akina is too good of a coach for his kids to play like that.

As for Ohio State, we knew they were a great team going in and they showed why. My hat is off to them and I'm going to love watching them play this year. Troy Smith has improved so much as a passer and Ginn has stepped his game up just as much. They have the making for an explosive team, but Tressel is going to have to loosen the collar just a bit. They are decent defensively and will only improve with time. It would be nice if these two teams could meet up in January to make it best 2 out of 3 before going their seperate ways.

I said in the predictions thread that I though Texas would go 11-1 or 10-2 in the regular season and I'll stick with that. Fix a few holes and work on some correctable things, and all will be fine.

[jtk1519]

it is not as much fun always being "right" without the ballast that is jtk concerning tu.

I usually cover my butt pretty well. In my prediction thread, I figured the odds for this game were 50/50 which covered me either way. I did think Texas would win, but I also thought some of the veterans would play like they are veterans. Let's just say that I had no intention of wagering anything on this game. ;)

The only part of Ohio State that really surprised me was Gonzo. Santonio Holmes left some big shoes to fill, but Gonzo more than filled them the other night. He's going to be another fun one to watch.

[ktchamp97]

"And boom goes the dynamite..."

Bravo jtk, Bravo.

[lonny23]

This thread is further proof that the very heart of this board is sustained by my written word. :D

I don't run and hide. You that know me, know better. The children responsible for such accusations make me laugh.

This whole weekend has been an experience for me. I was originally supposed to spend all day Saturday in Austin watching the game at Scholtz with wide-e-wide and some of his family, but as is often the case, the best laid plans of mice and men often go awry and I had to spend the weekend in Abilene. I was fortunate enough though to roll into town about an hour before kick-off and so my brother and I watched the game at Buffalo Wild Wings and that in itself deserves it's own paragraph.

It wasn't Austin, but Wild Wings was packed as usual and it was a great mix of mostly Horns and a few Buckeye fans. The place was rowdy and electric. I guess what made it so special was the fact that Colt McCoy grew up just a couple minutes outside of town and because of that, Abilene loves Colt... more than I expected. When the starting lineups were announced and Colt took the field, the roar was deafening. I don't think I have ever watched a game like that with so many people who feel such a strong bond to one player. Colt is our guy.

As luck would have it, we shared an area with a couple of Ohio State fans and we had a blast all game long. I know a lot of Texas fans were upset with the outcome and all, but that is what you expect of big games. Sometimes the breaks go your ways and sometimes they don't. Sometimes your team as all the experience and sometimes they don't. This was a classic two game series between two of the biggest, most powerful, legendary, successful and popular teams on the planet. In some strange way, it almost seems right that the series split.

As for the game itself, there were goods and bads. I'm by nature an optimist so I saw a lot of good things and some great stuff to build on. Personally, (and I will acknowledge that I may be in the minority here) I was so impressed with Colt. For a QB to do as well as he did making only his second start in front of the largest crowd to ever watch a football game in the state of Texas and in quite possibly the biggest game ever played in the state of Texas, I thought he did damn good. He was tough and took some nasty licks, but popped right back up. He made some freshman mistakes, but for the most part, he played beyond his years.

I was very impressed with the O-line and running game... especially Selvin. Going into the season, a lot of publications credited Texas with having the best D-line in the nation with Ohio State being a close second and I believe that now. The duo of Patterson and Pitcock make of the best DT combo in the nation and we all knew this going in, but I was very pleased with the way Texas ran the ball and I could not have been more happy with the line.

Keeping with the D-line, I think Texas has one of the best front sevens I have ever seen in Austin. Ohio State's O-line is very big and very experienced and I thought the Texas front four held there own and even beat the OSU front five on numerous occasions. I also love Texas' LBs and they were without their best coverage LB in Kelso who was out with an injury. Muck did a fantastic job in Kelson's place and I think the future for that group is as bright as I have seen.

I'm also gonna throw some praise on the safeties... especially the Griffin twins who were #1 and #2 in tackles with a combined 26 tackles (and Marcus left for a while with an injury). In his place I saw Robert Joseph (a true freshman) make some great plays.

Now, obviously a team doesn't lose 24-7 without some bad play somewhere. I was disappointed with the pass defense. Gonzo was given way too much room and he made Texas pay. I was very disappointed with the corners. That is where Brown's loss hurt and I hope Mack, Chizik and Akina chain him to a chair and show him every blown coverage and every big pass play over and over again while Mad Dog hits him over the head with a foam bat. Ross looked like he was trying to do too much in Brown's absence. He cant play right and left corner, but it looked like he tried at times and it cost him bad.

Now, I'm about to rip into one particular Texas player by name and I'm not going to be nice. I just got home after driving four hours from Abilene back here to San Antonio so I've had time to think about this. I have never been so disappointed and mad a the performance of one Texas player more than I have been of Billy Pittman so far. Against N. Texas he had more drops than catches and he was pathetic against OSU. I like the idea of using those quick passes to the Quan to try and spread the field, but those only work if the slot receiver does a good job of blocking and Pittman did a piss-poor job. On top of that, I think his fumble cost Texas the game.

It's hard to look at a game and say that things changed on one play, but there is no question that the entire game changed for Texas after that fumble. Why an experienced, good receiver is extending the ball out like that couple of yards short of the goal line while in the process of being tackled is simply beyond me. Animal Jr. made a great play on the ball, but there is no excuse for a veteran WR to do something that stupid. BTW, don't tell me how Billy caught the TD pass... I don't want to hear it. As a vet., he was supposed to be the one bailing the freshman QB out of trouble. How ironic was it then that it was the freshman QB trying to bail the vet. out when Colt chased down and made a great TD saving tackle on the guy that recovered Pittman's fumble. I don't know what his problem his, but if I were Davis, Pittman would be benched next week, The Quan would move over to flanker and Jones and/or Shipley should move up to that sub-B position. At least until Pittman gets his act together.

In the end, a lot of promise was shown and some weakness were exposed. Of course, the best way to fix a cracked wall is to first find the crack, and at least now they know for sure what needs to be fixed. Colt will only get better with age and if the guys that are actually supposed to catch his pass decide to do just that, there is so much potential with that offense. Same goes for the defense. They proved they can stop a great running game, but now they need to work on the secondary. Akina is too good of a coach for his kids to play like that.

As for Ohio State, we knew they were a great team going in and they showed why. My hat is off to them and I'm going to love watching them play this year. Troy Smith has improved so much as a passer and Ginn has stepped his game up just as much. They have the making for an explosive team, but Tressel is going to have to loosen the collar just a bit. They are decent defensively and will only improve with time. It would be nice if these two teams could meet up in January to make it best 2 out of 3 before going their seperate ways.

I said in the predictions thread that I though Texas would go 11-1 or 10-2 in the regular season and I'll stick with that. Fix a few holes and work on some correctable things, and all will be fine.
Nice post!

[KT2000]

I'm in agreement with every word you type there JTK. Very nice.

Completely agree on the Pittman play. That's a 14 point swing in the score in OSU's favor. A huge play to say the least. Baffling as was the secondary play.

[jtk1519]

The interesting thing is that as mad as I was about the play of the secondary, I realized that 24 points wasn't that bad. Maybe OSU could have scored more... maybe not, but if you would have told me Saturday morning that Texas was going to hold OSU to 24 points and that great OSU running game to less than 80 yards and only 2.7 ypc, I probably would have wet my pants with joy.

Here's an interesting stat... The Pittman fumble followed by the OSU TD essentially cost Texas 14 points. Colt's INT led to a FG. That's 17 points. Ohio State won by 17 points. That stings.

[dragonsdaddy]

Ddaddy, I'll ask you point blank.

Did you play the "Architect" in the movie The Matrix Reloaded? :D
never saw it. clue me in why the querry?

[ktchamp97]

never saw it. clue me in why the querry?

http://www.neoandtrinity.net/transcript.html

An excerpt:

The Architect - Hello, Neo.
Neo - Who are you?
The Architect - I am the Architect. I created the matrix. I've been waiting for you. You have many questions, and although the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human. Ergo, some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also the most irrelevant.
Neo - Why am I here?
The Architect - Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden assiduously avoided, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you, inexorably, here.
Neo - You haven't answered my question.
The Architect - Quite right. Interesting. That was quicker than the others.

[Favpack]

Profound - yet puzzling - DD and the Architect. But, I never saw it either - I enjoy watching a movie and reading a book at the same time - and you can't do that with the Matrix -- so I never saw it. I did see Ace Ventura - twice.

[Miss Kitty]

This thread is further proof that the very heart of this board is sustained by my written word. :D


I don't find it necessary to copy your entire post, but wanted to say it was a great one in its entirety.

So I take it by this thread that TU played Saturday and got beat? ;)

[Favpack]

The interesting thing is that as mad as I was about the play of the secondary, I realized that 24 points wasn't that bad. Maybe OSU could have scored more... maybe not, but if you would have told me Saturday morning that Texas was going to hold OSU to 24 points and that great OSU running game to less than 80 yards and only 2.7 ypc, I probably would have wet my pants with joy.

Here's an interesting stat... The Pittman fumble followed by the OSU TD essentially cost Texas 14 points. Colt's INT led to a FG. That's 17 points. Ohio State won by 17 points. That stings.

I'll say it again - OSU wins the game 9 of 10 times. Yes, the fumble hurt - big time - you simply cannot lose the turnover battle and you can't fumble on the two. Pittman has never been good at securing the ball - and that was a pure junior high play. But, OSU was still two td's better.

[dragonsdaddy]

http://www.neoandtrinity.net/transcript.html

An excerpt:
hilarious, and thanks for the thought. i don't try to be quite so enigmatic, just erudite and superfluous enough as not to be superscilious. hahaha.

[dragonsdaddy]

I don't find it necessary to copy your entire post, but wanted to say it was a great on in its entirety.

So I take it by this thread that TU played Saturday and got beat? ;)
lol funny got a good belly laugh out of that one. strong work, mk.

[ktchamp97]

hilarious, and thanks for the thought. i don't try to be quite so enigmatic, just erudite and superfluous enough as not to be superscilious. hahaha.

I know exactly what you mean. :eek: I, for one, hope you never change.

[Favpack]

hilarious, and thanks for the thought. i don't try to be quite so enigmatic, just erudite and superfluous enough as not to be superscilious. hahaha.

You should write speeches for W - or Don King.

[lonny23]

http://www.neoandtrinity.net/transcript.html

An excerpt:
I see the resemblance.

Both use a lot of words and say nothing!:p

[Texasfrog]

Pittman has played like crap this year so far. Last week against North Tx he had a couple of drops and didnt look good with the ball in his hands.

Then, in the OSU game he pretty much played the same. Big game swinging play when he fumbled that football. That was a "HUGE" momentum changing play.

Not saying Texas would of won. But, if Pittman scores that touchdown. We have a game that probably goes into the 4th Qt and looks alot more like last years game.

[GoOwls]

hilarious, and thanks for the thought. i don't try to be quite so enigmatic, just erudite and superfluous enough as not to be superscilious. hahaha.

D-Daddy said he was super silly...........:D :D :D

[DragonBand06]

Unless your team is USC (last recent champion) or Ohio State (last team to beat Texas), you've got nothing on Texas fans. If you're an Ag as I suspect, get back to us when you win anything of significance...moral victories excluded.

jtk is no fair weather fan. He'll be back.

For the record, we lost to a better team. They made us pay for our mistakes like all good teams do. We got what we deserved with how poorly we performed. Oh well.
Do several soccer Big 12 Championships not count for anything?

[LeanderLions3033]

I also think that Coach Chizik thought our defense was a little better then it really was. From what i heard on AM 1300 the zone this morning, Michael Griffin was basically asked to cover Gonzo 1 on 1 on all underneath routes. Now as good a saftey as Griffin is, he does not have the ability to cover Gonzo 1 on 1. Not too many safties do. Griffin is one hell of a sure tackler (maybe the best in the country at it), but he's human. Which brings me to my 2nd point, i think Chizik and the rest of the assistants underestimated mr. #11. Gonzo played the best game of his career so far in front of thousands of UT fans, how can your hat not go off to him. However i think it's unexceptable for him to have his career high in yards in the 1st half, thats when you know your defensive game plan should be thrown in the toilet. I also think Chizik thought that Ryan Palmer and Brandon Foster were better then they really were. I'm not saying they wont be good, or even great, but you can't have the same game plan with your 3 year starting corner out and two corners that have never started a game trying to replace them. Also, for all this talk about how good this group of recievers are why wouldnt we go down field more often?? Hopefully we dont get a repeat of the "big 3" in their senior seasons with 3 yard hitches and 3 yard outs all year. You HAVE to take more chances on offense when you're down 17-7. Its not time to abandon the running game (since it seemed to work all day) but its time to take shots. And yes if UT played tOSU 10 times with that exact same game plan then tOSU would win all 10 times.

[jtk1519]

One more thing I forgot to add, at least for this game, the player Texas missed the most was David Thomas. David Thomas was not some super-athlete or anything, but he was so dependable and so clutch. You could always count on him to make the clutch catch and Texas didn't have that Sat. (though Sweed is starting to turn into the kind of receiver that just catches everything). Maybe Thomas' clutch personality took the pressure off of Pittman or something. I don't understand the fragile psyche of little skill guys.

BTW, off the subject of TEs, I saw some of coach Chizik's post game interview and he was livid. He's pretty intense as it is, but there were flames shooting from his nose. If that defense doesn't get better, it's only because Chizik killed them.

[Favpack]

That was a tall order for a seasoned secondary - just too much to ask of UT this early. Smith could well win the Heisman - and will if he keeps this up. I think he had a couple of more td tosses in him- but, as noted, Tressel pulled in the reins - smart move.

[ktchamp97]

Do several soccer Big 12 Championships not count for anything?

In the context of a college football (not futbol) discussion? I think not.

I'm among the extremely small percentage of American soccer fans, but seriously, virtually nobody in this country cares about soccer, so that would pretty much eliminate it from the "anything of significance" category.

You guys will accomplish something in football someday (without cheating)...keep on truckin'...:D

[jtk1519]

Do several soccer Big 12 Championships not count for anything?

Damn, that made me shoot water all over my desk. :D

[dragonsdaddy]

In the context of a college football (not futbol) discussion? I think not.

I'm among the extremely small percentage of American soccer fans, but seriously, virtually nobody in this country cares about soccer, so that would pretty much eliminate it from the "anything of significance" category.

You guys will accomplish something in football someday (without cheating)...keep on truckin'...:D
hey hey hey. let me be the first to remind you of the proud tradition of honoring the nat'l champs that went to the white house to see president roosevelt, before ww2. wasn't that the same time as some et green team won their initial state title?

[ktchamp97]

hey hey hey. let me be the first to remind you of the proud tradition of honoring the nat'l champs that went to the white house to see president roosevelt, before ww2. wasn't that the same time as some et green team won their initial state title?

True enough. Let me attempt to rephrase...

You guys will eventually accomplish something in football in the post black and white television era (without cheating)...keep on truckin'...:D

[dragonsdaddy]

True enough. Let me attempt to rephrase...

You guys will eventually accomplish something in football in the post black and white television era (without cheating)...keep on truckin'...:D
how about the post radio only era?

[farmerfan]

Pittman has played like crap this year so far. Last week against North Tx he had a couple of drops and didnt look good with the ball in his hands.

Then, in the OSU game he pretty much played the same. Big game swinging play when he fumbled that football. That was a "HUGE" momentum changing play.

Not saying Texas would of won. But, if Pittman scores that touchdown. We have a game that probably goes into the 4th Qt and looks alot more like last years game.

Though tOSU still got points off of it last year, that play is somewhat like the TE dropping that TD pass. THat play would have been huge in that game and just like the fumble leaves us wondering what could of or might have been. Either way Im happy, we kicked the ponies rear on saturday and this campus is actually excited about football for once.

[GoOwls]

Do several soccer Big 12 Championships not count for anything?

In one word........NO!!

Soccer is a game no one cares about except for World Cup time.

Once kids get to high school, nobody cares any more. I deliver mail by Johnson stadium in Garland and there are soccer games there all the time. I can honsetly say I've never seen over 50 people at the games. A few parents and such, that's it. I go watch a few games a year and I'm the only no-parent there.

The best thing about soccer is soccer moms..........hubba hubba.

[ktchamp97]

how about the post radio only era?

Sure. That probably works better since, although the first color TV broadcast occured in '40, TV's weren't widely available until the 50's.

[DragonBand06]

Damn, that made me shoot water all over my desk. :D
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
Shots Fired.......1
Shots Hit..........1
Hit Percent.......100%

BOO-YAH!:D

[jtk1519]

You sank my battleship.

[Texasfrog]

Though tOSU still got points off of it last year, that play is somewhat like the TE dropping that TD pass. THat play would have been huge in that game and just like the fumble leaves us wondering what could of or might have been. Either way Im happy, we kicked the ponies rear on saturday and this campus is actually excited about football for once.

Ya, North Texas took care of business against SMU. Looks like North Texas & Troy St might be the two big kids on the block in the Sun Belt.

I think that game comes on tv so I'll be watching it. A Bowl game might way on that game.

[stevefoxsc]

Do several soccer Big 12 Championships not count for anything?

Wikipedia

sports are a national pastime, and playing sports, especially American football, baseball, and basketball, is very popular at the high-school level. Professional sports in the U.S. is big business, with most of the world's most highly paid athletes.[94] The "Big Four" sports are baseball, American football, ice hockey, and basketball. Baseball is popularly termed "the national pastime"; but, since the early 1990s, American football has largely been considered the most popular sport in America.

I don't see soccer in there anywhere maybe thats why they don't count for much soccer isn't a booming sport in the united states on the rise yes but nothing most americans get excited about.

[biki1121]

This thread is further proof that the very heart of this board is sustained by my written word. :D

Good grief man, I know where you were. You were looking for a publisher for that long of a post! But it was a good post!

[DragonBand06]

Wikipedia

sports are a national pastime, and playing sports, especially American football, baseball, and basketball, is very popular at the high-school level. Professional sports in the U.S. is big business, with most of the world's most highly paid athletes.[94] The "Big Four" sports are baseball, American football, ice hockey, and basketball. Baseball is popularly termed "the national pastime"; but, since the early 1990s, American football has largely been considered the most popular sport in America.

I don't see soccer in there anywhere maybe thats why they don't count for much soccer isn't a booming sport in the united states on the rise yes but nothing most americans get excited about.
what did you search? I looked up sports and couldn't find that part...:confused:

[abilenefan]

hilarious, and thanks for the thought. i don't try to be quite so enigmatic, just erudite and superfluous enough as not to be superscilious. hahaha.

Good Lord!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

Does anyone know what he said?

[Dawg Fan]

Unless your team is USC (last recent champion) or Ohio State (last team to beat Texas), you've got nothing on Texas fans. If you're an Ag as I suspect, get back to us when you win anything of significance...moral victories excluded.

Standard and expected retort from a guy whos upset about his team losing and trying to take it out on another. What difference does it make what team they like? What does that have to do with anything? As much as UT fans dish it out you would think they would be able to take it. I guess not:rolleyes:

[farmerfan]

Ya, North Texas took care of business against SMU. Looks like North Texas & Troy St might be the two big kids on the block in the Sun Belt.

I think that game comes on tv so I'll be watching it. A Bowl game might way on that game.


they come to dirty Denton too :eek: the tailgaters will be out in full force that weekend. Hopefully it will be for the conference championship.

[ktchamp97]

Standard and expected retort from a guy whos upset about his team losing and trying to take it out on another. What difference does it make what team they like? What does that have to do with anything? As much as UT fans dish it out you would think they would be able to take it. I guess not:rolleyes: You've got me all wrong, but that's ok. I just find it funny that Aggies get all excited when UT loses to anybody because that's all they have to hold on to since they can't get it done themselves. I'm not upset at all about the loss. I've state repeatedly that we played like crap and the better team won. Big deal. One loss in over a season in a half ain't bad.

[Sacred Ground]

jtk, you have convinced me you are a true Horns fan. You should work in their PR Dept. Now try to convince me The Dallas Cowboys are America's team.

[GoOwls]

jtk, you have convinced me you are a true Horns fan. You should work in their PR Dept. Now try to convince me The Dallas Cowboys are America's team.

If you have to be convinced of it, you live in a hole in the ground, buried head first.:D :D

[Sacred Ground]

You've got me all wrong, but that's ok. I just find it funny that Aggies get all excited when UT loses to anybody because that's all they have to hold on to since they can't get it done themselves. I'm not upset at all about the loss. I've state repeatedly that we played like crap and the better team won. Big deal. One loss in over a season in a half ain't bad.

champ, you have to realize that every team in the Big 12 South now thinks they can beat the Horns. This type of thinking is good for the conference and brings high hopes and anticipation as their showdown with the Horns looms closer with each passing week. It's good for the fans as well, which brings about elevated hype.

[ktchamp97]

champ, you have to realize that every team in the Big 12 South now thinks they can beat the Horns. This type of thinking is good for the conference and brings high hopes and anticipation as their showdown with the Horns looms closer with each passing week. It's good for the fans as well, which brings about elevated hype.

Hey, I'm cool with that. I still believe we have a very good team capable of winning the conference, but I've always expected this year to be much more challenging than last. Even with Vince at QB, we had to pull 4 wins out of a hat to finally reach the mountaintop. Each conference game will be a challenge.

[Firebird]

One more thing I forgot to add, at least for this game, the player Texas missed the most was David Thomas. David Thomas was not some super-athlete or anything, but he was so dependable and so clutch. You could always count on him to make the clutch catch and Texas didn't have that Sat. (though Sweed is starting to turn into the kind of receiver that just catches everything). Maybe Thomas' clutch personality took the pressure off of Pittman or something. I don't understand the fragile psyche of little skill guys.

BTW, off the subject of TEs, I saw some of coach Chizik's post game interview and he was livid. He's pretty intense as it is, but there were flames shooting from his nose. If that defense doesn't get better, it's only because Chizik killed them.

I would like to add here that I predicted at the end of last season that David Thomas would be the critical loss that no one was taking serious enough. Just a little shameless self-plugging here. J-MIke has great potential, but you just don't find a player more poised and dependable as Thomas was in college.

[cougardude]

You've got me all wrong, but that's ok. I just find it funny that Aggies get all excited when UT loses to anybody because that's all they have to hold on to since they can't get it done themselves. I'm not upset at all about the loss. I've state repeatedly that we played like crap and the better team won. Big deal. One loss in over a season in a half ain't bad.


Nice post ktchamp97! I ditto that opinion.;)

[Sacred Ground]

If you have to be convinced of it, you live in a hole in the ground, buried head first.:D :D

To be honest, I can't be convinced of it. I grew up with the old AFL and my loyalty will never change, and there's no soil in my hair, thank you. :D :D :D

[GarlandOwl06]

Unless your team is USC (last recent champion) or Ohio State (last team to beat Texas), you've got nothing on Texas fans. If you're an Ag as I suspect, get back to us when you win anything of significance...moral victories excluded.

Standard and expected retort from a guy whos upset about his team losing and trying to take it out on another. What difference does it make what team they like? What does that have to do with anything? As much as UT fans dish it out you would think they would be able to take it. I guess not:rolleyes:

Great post, Texas fans dish it out all the time but when they lose there is always a lot of great excuses, just like when their players get arrested. I would just like to point out that Mack Brown and Texas still have yet to win a huge game without Vince Young at quarterback. So Texas fans can be confident and optimistic but get ready because it's all downhill from here...

Texas '06- 9 wins 4 losses

[ktchamp97]

Great post, Texas fans dish it out all the time but when they lose there is always a lot of great excuses, just like when their players get arrested. I would just like to point out that Mack Brown and Texas still have yet to win a huge game without Vince Young at quarterback. So Texas fans can be confident and optimistic but get ready because it's all downhill from here...

Texas '06- 9 wins 4 losses
Again, where have I made excuses about losses or players getting arrested? You Aggies have got to be experts on both by now. The only thing your players have done more often than get themselves arrested is lose football games...again, y'all have no room to talk.

And yes, it is, in fact, all downhill from an undefeated National Championship season. And there's nowhere to go from the basement but up. Aggy moral victory #3,457,654.

9-4 would be disappointing, but not altogether unexpected. If one of those losses comes at your hands, you will be justified in giving us the business. Until that time, you should worry more about Baylor.

[Sacred Ground]

Hey, I'm cool with that. I still believe we have a very good team capable of winning the conference, but I've always expected this year to be much more challenging than last. Even with Vince at QB, we had to pull 4 wins out of a hat to finally reach the mountaintop. Each conference game will be a challenge.

There ya go, the Horns are still the team to beat in the Big 12 and whether they can be de-throned is yet to be seen. Some Horn fans are now realizing just how dynamic last years team was. The Horn faithful have to admit though, that they lost some super talent to the NFL.

[jtk1519]

Again, where have I made excuses about losses or players getting arrested? You Aggies have got to be experts on both by now. The only thing your players have done more often than get themselves arrested is lose football games...again, y'all have no room to talk.

And yes, it is, in fact, all downhill from an undefeated National Championship season. And there's nowhere to go from the basement but up. Aggy moral victory #3,457,654.

9-4 would be disappointing, but not altogether unexpected. If one of those losses comes at your hands, you will be justified in giving us the business. Until that time, you should worry more about Baylor.

One loss to the #1 team in the nation and they just come out of the woodwork don't they? Like roaches sprinting towards a solitary cookie crumb :D

Texas is the only team in college football coming off back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back 10 win seasons. Texas has enjoyed at least 9 wins in a season for the last 7 straight years. The Texas coaching staff features the latest "Coach of the Year recipient" as well as the last two Broyles Award winners. Mack Brown and The University are 66-11 this century. As they say, "We are the Joneses".

[GoOwls]

Again, where have I made excuses about losses or players getting arrested? You Aggies have got to be experts on both by now. The only thing your players have done more often than get themselves arrested is lose football games...again, y'all have no room to talk.

And yes, it is, in fact, all downhill from an undefeated National Championship season. And there's nowhere to go from the basement but up. Aggy moral victory #3,457,654.

9-4 would be disappointing, but not altogether unexpected. If one of those losses comes at your hands, you will be justified in giving us the business. Until that time, you should worry more about Baylor.

PSYCHE!!! :D

SPEAK TO THE HAND!!!! :D

HOOK 'EM HORNS!!!

GO BAYLOR!!!!! :D

[GarlandOwl06]

Again, where have I made excuses about losses or players getting arrested? You Aggies have got to be experts on both by now. The only thing your players have done more often than get themselves arrested is lose football games...again, y'all have no room to talk.

And yes, it is, in fact, all downhill from an undefeated National Championship season. And there's nowhere to go from the basement but up. Aggy moral victory #3,457,654.

9-4 would be disappointing, but not altogether unexpected. If one of those losses comes at your hands, you will be justified in giving us the business. Until that time, you should worry more about Baylor.

I hate to tell you but it is not about the past but it is about the present and currently the Aggies have a better record than Texas. And we're not even talking about the aggies anyways, we are talking about the team and the coach that has yet to win a big game without the guy with Young on the back of the jersey. Since we're talking about the present come talk to me when Texas has as good a record as A&M!!!

[ktchamp97]

I hate to tell you but it is not about the past but it is about the present and currently the Aggies have a better record than Texas. And we're not even talking about the aggies anyways, we are talking about the team and the coach that has yet to win a big game without the guy with Young on the back of the jersey. Since we're talking about the present come talk to me when Texas has as good a record as A&M!!!

GarlandOwl06, I admire your spirit. It's been a hoot...:D

[AZTiger]

can i get the banging head against the wall smiley?

remind me not to visit the drivel in the college football forum during these months

[DragonBand06]

GarlandOwl06, I admire your spirit. It's been a hoot...:D
Pun Intended...?

[cougardude]

One loss to the #1 team in the nation and they just come out of the woodwork don't they? Like roaches sprinting towards a solitary cookie crumb :D

Texas is the only team in college football coming off back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back 10 win seasons. Texas has enjoyed at least 9 wins in a season for the last 7 straight years. The Texas coaching staff features the latest "Coach of the Year recipient" as well as the last two Broyles Award winners. Mack Brown and The University are 66-11 this century. As they say, "We are the Joneses".

I think the more I read the posts from the bashers it becomes more and more apparent that it must be a jealousy thing. ;) :D

[dragonsdaddy]

One loss to the #1 team in the nation and they just come out of the woodwork don't they? Like roaches sprinting towards a solitary cookie crumb :D

Texas is the only team in college football coming off back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back 10 win seasons. Texas has enjoyed at least 9 wins in a season for the last 7 straight years. The Texas coaching staff features the latest "Coach of the Year recipient" as well as the last two Broyles Award winners. Mack Brown and The University are 66-11 this century. As they say, "We are the Joneses".
boy are you right. now replace tu and their stats over the last 4 seasons with slc and their stats and imagine the nuclear bomb that'll be unleashed when slc looses. zounds. may shut down the forum.

[ktchamp97]

boy are you right. now replace tu and their stats over the last 4 seasons with slc and their stats and imagine the nuclear bomb that'll be unleashed when slc looses. zounds. may shut down the forum.

:eek:

Better start stocking the shelter now.

Better yet...don't lose.

[gtown04]

I hate to tell you but it is not about the past but it is about the present and currently the Aggies have a better record than Texas. And we're not even talking about the aggies anyways, we are talking about the team and the coach that has yet to win a big game without the guy with Young on the back of the jersey. Since we're talking about the present come talk to me when Texas has as good a record as A&M!!!

Your completly right, we should be congratulating the fine Texas A&M victorys. Congratulations on beating the perennial NCAA powerhouse teams of The Citadel, and University of Louisiana-Lafayette.

[Favpack]

Your completly right, we should be congratulating the fine Texas A&M victorys. Congratulations on beating the perennial NCAA powerhouse teams of The Citadel, and University of Louisiana-Lafayette.
I'm not an Aggie hater or fan - do want them to do well because I like the kids there - but that schedule is just an absolute joke. Seriously - raise your hand if you're an Aggie and not fully embarrassed by the pre-conf. schedule. It just screams "we're no good and our future is fair at best".

[stevefoxsc]

boy are you right. now replace tu and their stats over the last 4 seasons with slc and their stats and imagine the nuclear bomb that'll be unleashed when slc looses. zounds. may shut down the forum.


As some one already told me on the fourms, "Arrogance will do that".

[farmerfan]

I'm not an Aggie hater or fan - do want them to do well because I like the kids there - but that schedule is just an absolute joke. Seriously - raise your hand if you're an Aggie and not fully embarrassed by the pre-conf. schedule. It just screams "we're no good and our future is fair at best".

that scheudle cant all be blamed on A&M. If I am not mistaken they had a agreement to play either Florida State or Miami but one of those schools backed out leaving A&M scrambling to find a replacement, thus where either LaLa or LaTech comes into the picture. A&M for years would take the route of playing one cream puff, one mediocre team and one team considered to be "strong". Up until this year that has been the case over the last 10 years or so and like I said the reason for this year being different is because of FSU or Miami backing out of the series.

[Favpack]

that scheudle cant all be blamed on A&M. If I am not mistaken they had a agreement to play either Florida State or Miami but one of those schools backed out leaving A&M scrambling to find a replacement, thus where either LaLa or LaTech comes into the picture. A&M for years would take the route of playing one cream puff, one mediocre team and one team considered to be "strong". Up until this year that has been the case over the last 10 years or so and like I said the reason for this year being different is because of FSU or Miami backing out of the series.
That's my recollection as well in years past - thanks. I was not aware of the Fl school issues.

[stevefoxsc]

I hate to tell you but it is not about the past but it is about the present and currently the Aggies have a better record than Texas. And we're not even talking about the aggies anyways, we are talking about the team and the coach that has yet to win a big game without the guy with Young on the back of the jersey. Since we're talking about the present come talk to me when Texas has as good a record as A&M!!!
they will after baylor gets done with A&M an ou and tech and lets not forget texas :D

[stevefoxsc]

what did you search? I looked up sports and couldn't find that part...:confused:


America the only thing it says about soccer is that it's on the rise but not enough to be in the elite 4

[jtk1519]

I think the more I read the posts from the bashers it becomes more and more apparent that it must be a jealousy thing. ;) :D

You're just now getting that? R.C. Slocum lost his job because of that.

[LeanderLions3033]

I hate to tell you but it is not about the past but it is about the present and currently the Aggies have a better record than Texas. And we're not even talking about the aggies anyways, we are talking about the team and the coach that has yet to win a big game without the guy with Young on the back of the jersey. Since we're talking about the present come talk to me when Texas has as good a record as A&M!!!
Like it was stated above, i guess instead of taking a chance on playing the #1 team in the nation and getting ourself better for conference play, next time we'll schedule teams like The Citadel, Army, and U la la. A loss to Ohio state was almost expected. I know you said this is the present and not the past, but until A&M can prove that they can beat Baylor on a consistant basis (and not lose to them one year, and come out with revenge at kyle field only beating them by a td) then get back at me. Texas Tech fans can talk, they've won "big" games. OU fans can talk, they've won "big" games. I'm really hoping A&M can pull it together because the hiring of Fran was one of the best things that ever happened to UT and he needs to keep getting as many mediocre seasons as possible to stay around.

[HUM398]

We are waiting on your positive spin relating the the Longhorn pounding!! I have been waiting on your arrival and you are nowhere to be found. Please don't jump off the bandwagon yet. Give it a few more losses. I promise you, TU will lose more ball games......you can bank on it!!


You Have no base for you argument besides the fact that you dont like UT... Period. And as for them losing another game, i dont think thats gonna happen... Not to OU not to Nebraska... We got beat by the better team period, but if given time and the oppurtunity to play them again, i would put my money on UT.... They came and just got outplayed and out coached...

Us UT fans could make excuses like most other fans for other teams, but i certaintly wont... We sucked, and just because we lost to #1 during week 2 doesnt mean that we wont be playing for the NT..... We need some luck to get thier (other team's losses) but it can be done...

And for those that think OU can beat texas... You better do somthing about a defense that cant even contain a Washignton offense from scoring multiple times.

[Dawg Fan]

one thing is for sure, there is definitely no arrogance in UT fans:rolleyes: :eek: :D

[jtk1519]

one thing is for sure, there is definitely no arrogance in UT fans:rolleyes: :eek: :D

We are a humble bunch. :cool:

[LeanderLions3033]

one thing is for sure, there is definitely no arrogance in UT fans:rolleyes: :eek: :D
As a UT fan i consider myself very arrogant. But just look at the athletic program and honestly tell me that if ANY other university in the country had that kind of athletic program from top to bottom (Football, basketball, baseball, swimming, track, you name it) that they wouldnt be just as arrogant. When you when you gain fans, when you continue to win these fans become loyal. I don't know too many "bandwagon" UT fans in the state of texas. Now when i went on my cruise (which left out of Miami), i saw more Burnt Orange then i've ever seen outside of Texas, and i can guarantee you all those people werent UT fans 5 years ago.

[dragonsdaddy]

We are a humble bunch. :cool:
huh? i looked up the definition of humble and there was a picture of mother theresa and ghandi, but no guys with digits missing at the pip joint. must have been an oversight.

[farmerfan]

As a UT fan i consider myself very arrogant. But just look at the athletic program and honestly tell me that if ANY other university in the country had that kind of athletic program from top to bottom (Football, basketball, baseball, swimming, track, you name it) that they wouldnt be just as arrogant. When you when you gain fans, when you continue to win these fans become loyal. I don't know too many "bandwagon" UT fans in the state of texas. Now when i went on my cruise (which left out of Miami), i saw more Burnt Orange then i've ever seen outside of Texas, and i can guarantee you all those people werent UT fans 5 years ago.


I know for a fact there are some bandwagon UT fans. I remember walking around this state as a kid and young teenager and not a soul would wear Texas stuff. Memorial stadium was as silent a place as you could imagine on game day, it wasnt until Mack and Ricky winning the heisman did people in this state start getting excited about Texas again and it really started to take off in 01 when they had a legit shot at getting to play in the national title game. So yes in this state there are plenty of bandwagon UT fans.

[jtk1519]

The University of Texas is top 3 in the nation in enrollment. The University of Texas is top 3 in the nation in number of living alumni. Are there a lot of bandwagon fans? Of course, but you don't get to where Texas is now both as a University and as an athletic department without incredible help from your alumni base. Same goes for Ohio State, Michigan, Florida State, etc.

[Firebird]

As a UT fan i consider myself very arrogant. But just look at the athletic program and honestly tell me that if ANY other university in the country had that kind of athletic program from top to bottom (Football, basketball, baseball, swimming, track, you name it) that they wouldnt be just as arrogant. When you when you gain fans, when you continue to win these fans become loyal. I don't know too many "bandwagon" UT fans in the state of texas. Now when i went on my cruise (which left out of Miami), i saw more Burnt Orange then i've ever seen outside of Texas, and i can guarantee you all those people werent UT fans 5 years ago.


Arrogance is a strange thing among sports fans. Personally, I never consider arrogance to be warranted unless you personally are responsible for some of the success that your team experiences.

A UT swimmer, football player, etc., would have some basis to feel that they are superior. But a fan, all he did was watch SOMEONE ELSE excel. It is stupid to base some sense of self worth on the success or failure of other individuals.

As a fan, the appropriate emotion is only pleasure at seeing a team or individual you like do well, or a bit of disappointment when they fail. If you begin adopting their success and failures as your own, and posture yourself accordinly, you have problems.

[jtk1519]

A wise man once said...

"The line between pride and arrogance is often so fine that it is measured with the eyelash of a flea." - jtk1519

[Firebird]

A wise man once said...

"The line between pride and arrogance is often so fine that it is measured with the eyelash of a flea." - jtk1519

Pride is also uncalled for. As a fan, you ain't done nothing but watch and wear a t-shirt, even if you go to the school..... you got nothing to be proud of.

[jtk1519]

Pride is also uncalled for. As a fan, you ain't done nothing but watch and wear a t-shirt, even if you go to the school..... you got nothing to be proud of.

That's nonsensical. You can't be proud of the team you root for? Are you serious? Using such foolish logic would forbid people from displaying pride towards firefighters or our armed forces for the work they do. It may be corny, but I feel a sense of pride every time I see an American flag. I guess that's wrong of me since I had nothing to do with it being there.

**Note to all posters... You are no longer allowed to show pride. If you do, the PC pride police will find you and detain you**

[jtk1519]

Pride is also uncalled for. As a fan, you ain't done nothing but watch and wear a t-shirt, even if you go to the school..... you got nothing to be proud of.

BTW, if you're wearing a T-shirt, it's more than likely a product licensed by the university which means the money you spend on that shirt goes on to support the very athletic team you are watching.

If you buy a ticket, you are supporting the program.

If you watch the game on TV, you are supporting the program.

[svhorns]

Is this the ima fan even though I dont go to the school argument. Its funny watching all the kids come in from Houston/Dallas/San Antonio going to UT.

Me being from Austin they all come in going to UT they think they are the biggest fans in the world and they know everything. I was at a Fiji frat party after the OSU game talk about idiots.

I dont go to UT but have lived here my whole life. The students of UT the "fans" of UT who were there at the fiji house are not real fans yet what I like to call "I go to this school so I have to be a fan." I heard "start Melton" "Make Chizik the head coach" rediculous stuff...... I hate that people like this go to UT but it happens and good lord everyone there looked exactly the same.

[Firebird]

That's nonsensical. You can't be proud of the team you root for? Are you serious? Using such foolish logic would forbid people from displaying pride towards firefighters or our armed forces for the work they do. It may be corny, but I feel a sense of pride every time I see an American flag. I guess that's wrong of me since I had nothing to do with it being there.

**Note to all posters... You are no longer allowed to show pride. If you do, the PC pride police will find you and detain you**


Depends on how you define pride. If you define it as "a feeling of self respect or self worth", then it is absolutely non-sensical to feel self respect or self worth because a team you support did well.

I don't display pride toward police officers and firefighters and soldiers. I am tremendously grateful towards them for their work. I respect the sacrifices they make to keep me safe and keep this country running. But that has nothing to do with how I feel about myself.

Your "t-shirt analogy" is equally useless. That is like me saying "I pay taxes, which support our troops, which means I should feel better about myself because they do a good job."

AGAIN, a sense of respect, of pleasure--- all appropriate. To act like somehow YOU did something worthwhile is stupid.

[jtk1519]

Depends on how you define pride. If you define it as "a feeling of self respect or self worth", then it is absolutely non-sensical to feel self respect or self worth because a team you support did well.

I don't display pride toward police officers and firefighters and soldiers. I am tremendously grateful towards them for their work. I respect the sacrifices they make to keep me safe and keep this country running. But that has nothing to do with how I feel about myself.

Your "t-shirt analogy" is equally useless. That is like me saying "I pay taxes, which support our troops, which means I should feel better about myself because they do a good job."

AGAIN, a sense of respect, of pleasure--- all appropriate. To act like somehow YOU did something worthwhile is stupid.

Your tax anolgy is useless because paying taxes is not a choice. When you buy a ticket to a game or a shirt or a hat, you are choosing to support the entity that serves to benefit from the sale of that particualr item. I'm not saying that buying a ticket makes you one with the team or something, but there is nothing wrong with being proud of what a team or individual associated with The University has done. It's not a feather in your cap, but it is a feather in the cap of the greater institution.

[Sacred Ground]

BTW, if you're wearing a T-shirt, it's more than likely a product licensed by the university which means the money you spend on that shirt goes on to support the very athletic team you are watching.

If you buy a ticket, you are supporting the program.

If you watch the game on TV, you are supporting the program.

Bingo. You hit the nail on the head. Except for watching the game on TV, unless you buy a product advertised during the game. Also, what fans of other Big 12 schools don't realized is that their school is earning money from University of Texas success through the Big 12 profit sharing contract. The Longhorn's '05 season and NC as well as the Ohio State game was a big pay day for the Big 12.

jtk, you got to shorten your location. It's messing with my OCD.

[Dawg Fan]

Arrogance is a strange thing among sports fans. Personally, I never consider arrogance to be warranted unless you personally are responsible for some of the success that your team experiences.


Very true!

[GoOwls]

Depends on how you define pride. If you define it as "a feeling of self respect or self worth", then it is absolutely non-sensical to feel self respect or self worth because a team you support did well.

I don't display pride toward police officers and firefighters and soldiers. I am tremendously grateful towards them for their work. I respect the sacrifices they make to keep me safe and keep this country running. But that has nothing to do with how I feel about myself.

Your "t-shirt analogy" is equally useless. That is like me saying "I pay taxes, which support our troops, which means I should feel better about myself because they do a good job."

AGAIN, a sense of respect, of pleasure--- all appropriate. To act like somehow YOU did something worthwhile is stupid.

Geeze, Firebird, NASCAR is built on buying your favorite driver and/or teams licensed products and feeling good about financially supporting that entity and celebrating their successes, along with product loyalty......that's why they put the big sponsors on the hood.

Why don't you "loosen your bullets" a little bit? :D

[Reaganrattler07]

Arrogance is a strange thing among sports fans. Personally, I never consider arrogance to be warranted unless you personally are responsible for some of the success that your team experiences.

A UT swimmer, football player, etc., would have some basis to feel that they are superior. But a fan, all he did was watch SOMEONE ELSE excel. It is stupid to base some sense of self worth on the success or failure of other individuals.

As a fan, the appropriate emotion is only pleasure at seeing a team or individual you like do well, or a bit of disappointment when they fail. If you begin adopting their success and failures as your own, and posture yourself accordinly, you have problems.

Beautiful...

[Sacred Ground]

LOL, :D Hahaha, :D thank you, :D I love it, :D staight lines. :D

[GarlandOwl06]

Just wanted to let everybody know that I just looked at the standings and Texas A&M still has a better record than Texas.

[LeanderLions3033]

^^congrats. Like i said before, the more A&M wins the longer fran stays around (which is what me and every other UT fan want) so hopefully yall can actually win some respecful games in conference this year. Go Aggy! Go Fran! Beat Army ;) .

[GoOwls]

Just wanted to let everybody know that I just looked at the standings and Texas A&M still has a better record than Texas.

Yep, and their big game so far is coming up this week as they play Boles Home in the first game of a home and away series.:D :D

[cougardude]

Pride is also uncalled for. As a fan, you ain't done nothing but watch and wear a t-shirt, even if you go to the school..... you got nothing to be proud of.

I was just about to agree with you on a post you made about arrogance, but after seeing this one I changed my mind. We can't be PROUD of a team because we were just sitting in the stands cheering them on? That makes no sense whatsoever. :rolleyes:

Doesn't the fact that you have an ACU helmet as your avatar mean you are showing some pride? :rolleyes:

And yes, my cougar avatar means I am damn proud of the Cooper Cougars - win or lose!

[DragonBand06]

^^congrats. Like i said before, the more A&M wins the longer fran stays around (which is what me and every other UT fan want) so hopefully yall can actually win some respecful games in conference this year. Go Aggy! Go Fran! Beat Army ;) .
I would be willing to never post about A&M on this website again if everyone would quit calling them "aggy" and give them their real, respected, true name. I mean, come on, you even call OU the Sooners!?!

[dragonfootballfan]

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but isn't it an automatic banning to use somebody's username in a thread title?

[gtown04]

I would be willing to never post about A&M on this website again if everyone would quit calling them "aggy" and give them their real, respected, true name. I mean, come on, you even call OU the Sooners!?!

You drop the tu, and we drop the Aggy? We might need to debate this, but I think we can reach a compromise.

[HUM398]

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but isn't it an automatic banning to use somebody's username in a thread title?

What if the title was "JTK we love you" or " Goodluck Hum398" or "Why Dragonfootballfan is the coolest poster ever" Im not sure about that rule.. ITs a good question.. cause ive seen it done several times...

Does it count if you only use part of his username???

[DragonBand06]

You drop the tu, and we drop the Aggy? We might need to debate this, but I think we can reach a compromise.
I have been known to use "tu" on here a few times, but I usually call them Texas or just don't reference them by name...
However, like I said, I'm up for almost anything...

[lonny23]

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but isn't it an automatic banning to use somebody's username in a thread title?
That's not the case. There are still 14 threads around since December 5th that have my name in them that I didn't play a part in starting. There are others which have my name in them but have been deleted before now.