La. HS stripped of title for recruiting Katrina evacuees

[StormingCowboy]

BASTROP, La. -- Bastrop High School will have to forfeit its football championship under a Louisiana High School Athletic Association ruling that it illegally recruited players and violated the residency transfer rule last year, the Morehouse Parish School Board president said.



Board president Kris McKoin confirmed Monday night that the LHSAA had ruled against Bastrop High. All of the players involved were hurricane evacuee transfers from Port Sulphur High, and all will be ineligible this coming season, McKoin said.



"Our community accepted not only these kids but hundreds of evacuees from all over the state that came from dire situations. These kids did not come from homes or schools, but shelters."



The Class 4A state football championship last year was Bastrop High School's first since 1927.



Coach Brad Bradshaw said earlier Monday that he had been told the school was receiving bad news from the LHSAA, but his only focus at this time was on his players and how the decision might affect them. He added that he expected the school to appeal the decision.



"My kids are crushed right now," Bradshaw said. "They are crying. They are hurt that their hard work is being taken away from them. They know what we did last year. They know what we accomplished."



Principal Tom Thrower said he wouldn't comment until he got the written ruling.



LHSAA commissioner Tommy Henry said Monday that he had issued a preliminary ruling, which he expected to arrive Wednesday at Morehouse Parish and the school that filed the complaint.



Both Bastrop and the complaining school will have 48 hours to file an appeal once they receive the ruling. Henry said he wouldn't comment on the investigation until after an appeal had been made or the appeal deadline had passed.

Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press

[Sakatha]

BASTROP, La. -- Bastrop High School will have to forfeit its football championship under a Louisiana High School Athletic Association ruling that it illegally recruited players and violated the residency transfer rule last year, the Morehouse Parish School Board president said.



Board president Kris McKoin confirmed Monday night that the LHSAA had ruled against Bastrop High. All of the players involved were hurricane evacuee transfers from Port Sulphur High, and all will be ineligible this coming season, McKoin said.



"Our community accepted not only these kids but hundreds of evacuees from all over the state that came from dire situations. These kids did not come from homes or schools, but shelters."



The Class 4A state football championship last year was Bastrop High School's first since 1927.



Coach Brad Bradshaw said earlier Monday that he had been told the school was receiving bad news from the LHSAA, but his only focus at this time was on his players and how the decision might affect them. He added that he expected the school to appeal the decision.



"My kids are crushed right now," Bradshaw said. "They are crying. They are hurt that their hard work is being taken away from them. They know what we did last year. They know what we accomplished."



Principal Tom Thrower said he wouldn't comment until he got the written ruling.



LHSAA commissioner Tommy Henry said Monday that he had issued a preliminary ruling, which he expected to arrive Wednesday at Morehouse Parish and the school that filed the complaint.



Both Bastrop and the complaining school will have 48 hours to file an appeal once they receive the ruling. Henry said he wouldn't comment on the investigation until after an appeal had been made or the appeal deadline had passed.

Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press

If it's true then good... I have little to no patience for cheaters...

~DnM

[LUFPAN]

The kids had to go to school somewhere, what's wrong with all of them moving to the same city to stay together?

[CLFalcon2006]

This is difficult, if Bastrop did recruit Evacuees to play better then thats low, scumy and they derve to be stipped of the title. If all those kids just ended up in Bastrop due to the extreme circumstances and they did work for their title and came together as a team then this is terrible

i just don't know enough to be able to make a clear decison

[allendad]

I know that Plano H.S. was grateful for some Katrina "recruits" LAST year.

What a difference a year can make, right?!


It's almost like having the best receiver in Bedford 'moving' into your boundries when you need a good receiver. Who says miracles don't happen! ;^)


Allendad

[LUFPAN]

I'm not sure that I'm even opposed to the Coach at Bastrop telling the kids that they could all move to Bastrop and continue to play together. There is no sports by-law on the correct way to approach potential athletes who's cities have been completely destroyed.

[Sakatha]

I know that Plano H.S. was grateful for some Katrina "recruits" LAST year.

What a difference a year can make, right?!


It's almost like having the best receiver in Bedford 'moving' into your boundries when you need a good receiver. Who says miracles don't happen! ;^)


Allendad

I'd get banned if I said what I think about you for that comment...


Regardless, without Cantu we still beat you by 28 in december.. Every year.. This year included. Go be bitter somewhere else.

Jerk.

~DnM

p.s. Oh, and one more thing. Just because Plano kicked your *** also doesn't mean they cheated to do so.

[Favpack]

Dan Patrick just featured this on his show - and it stinks to me. So, the coaches went and brought these kids out of shelters to play for Bastrip - they had freakin' nothin! They had no clothes, car, home, money - zip! They were couped up in a shelter. As the Ruston affiliate reported - there was not one single LA top school that did not benefit measurably from NO players due to Katrina. The governing board should have done something more effectively if they wanted a different outcome.

I have no pity on the the quagmire that is Louisiana government - but I do feel for the kids. Unbelievable.

[pack0808]

Dan Patrick just featured this on his show - and it stinks to me. So, the coaches went and brought these kids out of shelters to play for Bastrip - they had freakin' nothin! They had no clothes, car, home, money - zip! They were couped up in a shelter. As the Ruston affiliate reported - there was not one single LA top school that did not benefit measurably from NO players due to Katrina. The governing board should have done something more effectively if they wanted a different outcome.

I have no pity on the the quagmire that is Louisiana government - but I do feel for the kids. Unbelievable.


Yeah I listened to it also. If the kids would have just moved up there it would be different but supposedly the Bastrop coaches went up to the shelter and recruited them and that is the problem. Sad for these kids. Lose your house the year before and the next year you lose football. The qb was supposedly a blue chip recruit.

[Drake]

We had rules in Texas on what evacuees had to do to be eligible to play, they had rules in Louisiana... Obviously, Bastrop <sp> circumvented or violated those rules...

[pack0808]

We had rules in Texas on what evacuees had to do to be eligible to play, they had rules in Louisiana... Obviously, Bastrop <sp> circumvented or violated those rules...


Oh there is no doubt they have some strong evidence or they would not have to forfeit their state championship. I just feel for the kids. Hell, who would not want to get away from a horrible shelter to go play the game they love.

[LUFPAN]

We had rules in Texas on what evacuees had to do to be eligible to play, they had rules in Louisiana... Obviously, Bastrop <sp> circumvented or violated those rules...

The rules in Texas and Lousiana is not the same and given the fact that their schools were completely destroyed, I see no harm here. So the coaches go and pull a lot of kids out of storm shelters and give them a chance to get back on the field...sounds like they deserve a reward not punishment. The situation with Katrina an New Orleans is unique, there's no getting around the fact that those players were going to end up somewhere. This shows extremely poor judgment by LA.

[HUM398]

Given the Circumstances of last years catastophic event, i dont see that team should be stripped of thier title...

[ktchamp97]

Allendad and Sakatha, this isn't the time nor the place. Sakatha, I realize you were simply responding, but I'd rather y'all continue through PM's.

I feel bad for the kids. I don't know the whole story obviously, but I'd be willing to bet that the kids had no idea they were doing anything wrong in this situation. Terrible.

[mojotrain]

We had rules in Texas on what evacuees had to do to be eligible to play, they had rules in Louisiana... Obviously, Bastrop <sp> circumvented or violated those rules...

What rules did Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin Have?

[pack0808]

I believe I read that Bastrop beat Evangel 7-0 in the first game of the year last week? I hear they will have to forfeit that game also. Isn't it ironic that Evangel will get a win because another team had to forfeit because of recruiting? ;)

[stevefoxsc]

I'd get banned if I said what I think about you for that comment...


Regardless, without Cantu we still beat you by 28 in december.. Every year.. This year included. Go be bitter somewhere else.

Jerk.

~DnM

p.s. Oh, and one more thing. Just because Plano kicked your *** also doesn't mean they cheated to do so.

wow sak grow up...

Reagurdless the kids had to go to school some where what were they to do just skip school and call it a year?

[ThEgReAtOnE]

The rules in Texas and Lousiana is not the same and given the fact that their schools were completely destroyed, I see no harm here. So the coaches go and pull a lot of kids out of storm shelters and give them a chance to get back on the field...sounds like they deserve a reward not punishment. The situation with Katrina an New Orleans is unique, there's no getting around the fact that those players were going to end up somewhere. This shows extremely poor judgment by LA.


I'm with you LUFPAN. Good post.

[Drake]

The rules in Texas and Lousiana is not the same and given the fact that their schools were completely destroyed, I see no harm here. So the coaches go and pull a lot of kids out of storm shelters and give them a chance to get back on the field...sounds like they deserve a reward not punishment. The situation with Katrina an New Orleans is unique, there's no getting around the fact that those players were going to end up somewhere. This shows extremely poor judgment by LA.I agree that the coaches probably helped these kids and perhaps the rules are/were ridiculous... But if there are a set of rules don't you think they should be adhered to?

Have you considered that there may have been more schools that wanted to help and could have also used the players but were disadvantaged in the playoffs because they DID NOT break the rules?

Also, wouldn't it be interesting to see how many NON-athletes were assisted by these Good Samaritan coaches?

[Favpack]

I thought the rule was simply - go find a school and enroll - there was no precedent and nothing in place that dictated what to do. I don't know - to me its like an atomic bomb went off and then you put rules after the fact and try to enforce them. Remember -- there were no cell phones, no electricity, no money, cars, clothes, nothing. What if they all went to the Salvation Army and played for that team and won state?

[Drake]

What rules did Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin Have?I'm going by memory Mojo, but it seems to me that kids had to go through the standard transferring procedure to be eligible... I know at Strake we took in over 400 students from New Orleans and because of UIL rules and additional preclusions set by the school, only 3 or 4 kids were able to come out, mainly because they were Seniors I think. (By the way, none played and all were gone before the playoffs)

[Drake]

I thought the rule was simply - go find a school and enroll - there was no precedent and nothing in place that dictated what to do. I don't know - to me its like an atomic bomb went off and then you put rules after the fact and try to enforce them. Remember -- there were no cell phones, no electricity, no money, cars, clothes, nothing. What if they all went to the Salvation Army and played for that team and won state?You could be right but the story in the first post said they forfeited because they "illegally" obtained players... That led me to infer there was rules involved...

[Sakatha]

wow sak grow up...

Reagurdless the kids had to go to school some where what were they to do just skip school and call it a year?

Do what?

That made no sense. I was responding to Allendad blasting off about a legit SLC transfer.

As I said before, if the kids were legit, then this is bad.. If not, then I am glad they were stripped...

~DnM

[LUFPAN]

[QUOTE=Drake]I agree that the coaches probably helped these kids and perhaps the rules are/were ridiculous... But if there are a set of rules don't you think they should be adhered to? QUOTE]

There is no set of rules that tells you what to do with students whose cities, schools, and homes have just been washed away and who have been seperated from their families and the friends they grew up with and watched their neighbors and loved one's drown. These coaches pulled these kids out of the shelters and put them back on the field.

[Drake]

There is no set of rules that tells you what to do with students whose cities, schools, and homes have just been washed away and who have been seperated from their families and the friends they grew up with and watched their neighbors and loved one's drown. These coaches pulled these kids out of the shelters and put them back on the field.As long as they could run a 4.5 40 or better...

[pack0808]

[QUOTE=Drake]I agree that the coaches probably helped these kids and perhaps the rules are/were ridiculous... But if there are a set of rules don't you think they should be adhered to? QUOTE]

There is no set of rules that tells you what to do with students whose cities, schools, and homes have just been washed away and who have been seperated from their families and the friends they grew up with and watched their neighbors and loved one's drown. These coaches pulled these kids out of the shelters and put them back on the field.


The only problem is you know nothing about them at all without any records. They could have been 19 or 20 year olds for all we know? It is not fair to the ones that were of age that is for sure.

[HUM398]

[QUOTE=LUFPAN]


The only problem is you know nothing about them at all without any records. They could have been 19 or 20 year olds for all we know? It is not fair to the ones that were of age that is for sure.

Well you basing you argument based somthng your assuming???? who said that they were 20?

[FreshmanTiger]

I feel sorry for the kids in this mess. They just wanted to play football. The real person to blame is the coach.:mad: He should of contacted the UIL and worked out something in advance and if the UIL said NO then you can go to the press and try to have the rules changed, but it just seems so much these days that we just are suppose to feel sorry for someone and break all the laws were are suppose to follow.

We have rules and laws for a reason.

[LUFPAN]

[QUOTE=pack0808]

Well you basing you argument based somthng your assuming???? who said that they were 20?

I never made the statement in your quote?....not sure how that happened.

[LUFPAN]

The only problem is you know nothing about them at all without any records. They could have been 19 or 20 year olds for all we know? It is not fair to the ones that were of age that is for sure.

I'm sure there was at least enough records to determine the age of the players and whether or not they attended school in another district.

[Drake]

This is a very harsh ruling by the UIL’s equivalent in Louisiana. For them to come to such a conclusion, isn’t it just possible or even likely that Bastrop’s coaches DID egregiously violate the rules?

[LUFPAN]

This is a very harsh ruling by the UIL’s equivalent in Louisiana. For them to come to such a conclusion, isn’t it just possible or even likely that Bastrop’s coaches DID egregiously violate the rules?

Its possible, but you should err on the side of the kids.

[Drake]

Its possible, but you should err on the side of the kids.Which kids, the ones at Bastrop, or the ones on most the other teams whose coaches did it right?

[ktchamp97]

This is a very harsh ruling by the UIL’s equivalent in Louisiana. For them to come to such a conclusion, isn’t it just possible or even likely that Bastrop’s coaches DID egregiously violate the rules?

Drake, I tend to agree with you...this time anyway. ;)

That's all the more reason to feel for the kids...they probably had no idea what was going on...consider their situation.

[Miss Kitty]

I hope that the players involved carry something positive with them from this experience. I hope they look back and can think of the coaches who provided them a place to do something they loved during a bleak time. Perhaps someday, they will have the opportunity to help someone else and they will remember that. I know titles are important. But these were unusual circumstances to say the least. If LA was not ready for a storm they knew would come some day, then why would they have rules on such an "if and then" situation.


My question is this, did the coaches go to the shelter and only take the good players to play on their team?

[pack0808]

I'm sure there was at least enough records to determine the age of the players and whether or not they attended school in another district.


Hey man I said it was not fair to the kids and it was a bad situation. Why are you so passionate on this subject? I am sure you do not know the details yourself and you are "assuming" they were all legit hs players. You know as much as I do. Anything and everything went after that insane disaster so it would not be a surprise.

Just remember this! they had to have some very very good reasons if they stripped their title away. I am sure there is more to the story.

[pack0808]

I hope that the players involved carry something positive with them from this experience. I hope they look back and can think of the coaches who provided them a place to do something they loved during a bleak time. Perhaps someday, they will have the opportunity to help someone else and they will remember that. I know titles are important. But these were unusual circumstances to say the least. If LA was not ready for a storm they knew would come some day, they why would they have rules on such an "if and then" situation.


My question is this, did the coaches go to the shelter and only take the good players to play on their team?


I heard Bastrop would not even had a chance to win a championship without these players. It was their first state championship (4a) since the 20's.

[pack0808]

[QUOTE=HUM398]

I never made the statement in your quote?....not sure how that happened.

oh my bad! I cannot explain it either?

[pack0808]

Now it is hum398's quote. odd!

[oppmojo]

If I understand this right, why did they just recruit athletes and not band or choir members. This is why I think what they did is wrong. Off with their heads.

[Sakatha]

If I understand this right, why did they just recruit athletes and not band or choir members. This is why I think what they did is wrong. Off with their heads.

If I could, I'd buy you a beer...

~DnM

[Favpack]

The only way I would accuse Bastrop of cheating would be:

1) They weren't allowing non-football player students in or:
2) There were large sums of cash involved.

Let's say they offered them clothes, a car to drive, a house, and food. Well, since Sulphur was completely wiped off the map - they had none of those things anyway - particularly food and clothes - what else are they to do?

And, I don't care if they were the first ones there at the shelter. The coaches took it on themselves to drive 400 miles to a shelter and drive kids back - I'm assuming they did it to help the kids until proven otherwise - sue me for thinking the coaches were good people.

[Sakatha]

The only way I would accuse Bastrop of cheating would be:

1) They weren't allowing non-football player students in or:
2) There were large sums of cash involved.

Let's say they offered them clothes, a car to drive, a house, and food. Well, since Sulphur was completely wiped off the map - they had none of those things anyway - particularly food and clothes - what else are they to do?

And, I don't care if they were the first ones there at the shelter. The coaches took it on themselves to drive 400 miles to a shelter and drive kids back - I'm assuming they did it to help the kids until proven otherwise - sue me for thinking the coaches were good people.

Sue me for thinking the coaches had ulterior motives... Did they grab normal kids to take back to help them out w/school? No... They grabbed blue chippers...

~DnM

[Favpack]

Sue me for thinking the coaches had ulterior motives... Did they grab normal kids to take back to help them out w/school? No... They grabbed blue chippers...

~DnM

Let's hope that choir/band directors, etc. were doing the same from other schools - bringing all kids in with open arms, but seeking out kids they could help in their area of teaching/coaching/etc. I just don't see wrong in a coach driving over to pick kids up and bring 'em back. I think the place was so utterly devastated it would be very hard to cruise around LA looking for blue-chippers only. Heck, they took a big gamble in whether or not they would make it back inside of a month themselves - there was no gas in LA to speak of then. And, again, what's the alternative - leave 'em in the shelter eating soup because they ARE football players. There was no communication in the state gang - there were no rules in place - and there was no place to call to get a ruling.

If this coach comes on Dan Patrick tomorrow - I may change my tune - but I hope not.

[Sakatha]

Let's hope that choir/band directors, etc. were doing the same from other schools - bringing all kids in with open arms, but seeking out kids they could help in their area of teaching/coaching/etc. I just don't see wrong in a coach driving over to pick kids up and bring 'em back. I think the place was so utterly devastated it would be very hard to cruise around LA looking for blue-chippers only. Heck, they took a big gamble in whether or not they would make it back inside of a month themselves - there was no gas in LA to speak of then. And, again, what's the alternative - leave 'em in the shelter eating soup because they ARE football players. There was no communication in the state gang - there were no rules in place - and there was no place to call to get a ruling.

If this coach comes on Dan Patrick tomorrow - I may change my tune - but I hope not.

Unfortunately, the murder rate, unemployment rate, overall violent crime rates have clouded my sympathy for Katrina 'Evacuees'...

I am a *******, I know. Poll the greater Houston area, and let me know how many people agree w/me on this one.

By the way, you might wanna duck when asking the question. You're liable to be hit a few times...

~DnM

[allendad]

"Sak",

My first response to your post was struck down faster than the USC cheerleader's smiles with 2 minutes to go-last January.

I was commenting on the "recruiting" practices of a team that went
0-10, 4-6, and then magically 13-1.

So, a team that goes 4-6 one year and the next year almost beats
the best Carroll team that there has been . . . . Somethin' sure was different alright!

My comment on a certain Bedford player is what it is. It makes one ponder things.

As far as Plano spanking Allen last year......
Yep, they sure did.

As far as Carroll beating Allen by 28 this December . . . . .
We'll see.

Allendad

[Sakatha]

"Sak",

My first response to your post was struck down faster than the USC cheerleader's smiles with 2 minutes to go-last January.

I was commenting on the "recruiting" practices of a team that went
0-10, 4-6, and then magically 13-1.

So, a team that goes 4-6 one year and the next year almost beats
the best Carroll team that there has been . . . . Somethin' sure was different alright!

My comment on a certain Bedford player is what it is. It makes one ponder things.

As far as Plano spanking Allen last year......
Yep, they sure did.

As far as Carroll beating Allen by 28 this December . . . . .
We'll see.

Allendad

Plano has a looooooooong history of winning and success. To see them rebound isn't shocking...

When you win with the consistancy that SLC does, you *will* have kids transfer in. When you have the best coach in Texas at your high school then kids will come to learn from him. WITHOUT SOLICITATION! If you really believe that SLC 'needs' to recruit then you are way off base...

You're right, it is what it is. SLC wins. Kids want to win. Parents who can afford to move into Southlake do so. The facts are, though, that the VAST majority of talent is very much homegrown...

~DnM

[LUFPAN]

Hey man I said it was not fair to the kids and it was a bad situation. Why are you so passionate on this subject? I am sure you do not know the details yourself and you are "assuming" they were all legit hs players. You know as much as I do. Anything and everything went after that insane disaster so it would not be a surprise.

Just remember this! they had to have some very very good reasons if they stripped their title away. I am sure there is more to the story.

I'm not passionate about the subject...I'm just passionate about kids. These kids lost all they had and now the one good thing that happened to them during all of this has been taken away.

[mojotrain]

If I could, I'd buy you a beer...

~DnM

saka , I would like for you to be able to do that Dec. 24th in San antonio.

[mojotrain]

Surely the governing board of La. High Schools will have a rule in place next time ( and there will be a next time) where the kids can be distributed in larger cities so they can remain in relative close contact but kinda divide them up among a number of schools and that should involve any kids who are in any activities. Thats only logical as you all have stated they have to be someplace. I guess the rules that were in place may not have covered something like this but the coach just had to know what he was doing besides just providing a safe haven for the kids. Don't ya think?

[oppmojo]

Sakatha, why don't we just get a pitcher of beer and you , mojotrain and I can sit back and talk football.

[lonny23]

I heard Bastrop would not even had a chance to win a championship without these players. It was their first state championship (4a) since the 20's.
Bastrop has been pretty good for a few years now. They got beat in the title game the year before. Bastrop is playing an Oklahoma team this week.

I don't know what to say about my mom's old high school (she graduated from Pampa in Texas, though).

[South Texas]

This is difficult, if Bastrop did recruit Evacuees to play better then thats low, scumy and they derve to be stipped of the title. If all those kids just ended up in Bastrop due to the extreme circumstances and they did work for their title and came together as a team then this is terrible

i just don't know enough to be able to make a clear decison


My understanding was that the LA schools are private and can recruit.

[Sakatha]

saka , I would like for you to be able to do that Dec. 24th in San antonio.

If our teams are lucky enough to make it there, or if we happen to be there just to watch whoever plays then you are on...

~DnM

[78 Spartan]

If a state as fundamentally corrupt as Louisiana can bring itself to place sanctions on a school for violating rules, then you know there were serious rules infractions.

I am frankly tired of hearing about how humanitarian these coaches were. Show me an example where they pulled members of the French Club, the band, the choir and the girls' softball team out of the shelter and offered them a place at Bastrop High and I might reconsider my opinion.

[Sakatha]

If a state as fundamentally corrupt as Louisiana can bring itself to place sanctions on a school for violating rules, then you know there were serious rules infractions.

I am frankly tired of hearing about how humanitarian these coaches were. Show me an example where they pulled members of the French Club, the band, the choir and the girls' softball team out of the shelter and offered them a place at Bastrop High and I might reconsider my opinion.

78 Spartan gets beer too... Dec 24th on the riverwalk.. We can have a giant 'bash Louisiana' party...

~DnM

[pack0808]

Bastrop has been pretty good for a few years now. They got beat in the title game the year before. Bastrop is playing an Oklahoma team this week.

I don't know what to say about my mom's old high school (she graduated from Pampa in Texas, though).



I did not know that? I did hear that these 6 or so players were a BIG part of the championship team last year though.

[LPMOM]

If a state as fundamentally corrupt as Louisiana can bring itself to place sanctions on a school for violating rules, then you know there were serious rules infractions.

I am frankly tired of hearing about how humanitarian these coaches were. Show me an example where they pulled members of the French Club, the band, the choir and the girls' softball team out of the shelter and offered them a place at Bastrop High and I might reconsider my opinion.

good post 78 Spattan.
i just wish there was a way to get the coaches in trouble without the kids having this taken from them.

[lonny23]

78 Spartan gets beer too... Dec 24th on the riverwalk.. We can have a giant 'bash Louisiana' party...

~DnM
You can't have a "bash Lousyanna" party without me around. I'm the King of Lousyanna bashing!

[Sakatha]

You can't have a "bash Lousyanna" party without me around. I'm the King of Lousyanna bashing!


Consider yourself invited.. I'd be honored to tip one back w/a Judson guy.

~DnM

[Sakatha]

good post 78 Spattan.
i just wish there was a way to get the coaches in trouble without the kids having this taken from them.

You know what? You are 100% CORRECT.

It *IS* unfortunate... I'll go on ahead to say this, though. If the kids knew it was wrong then I don't feel sorry for them one bit... That can't ever be proven, though.

~DnM

[lonny23]

They sure get picky on some of these transfer rules. I work with a guy who graduated from Rockdale and he's about to retire. He's going to leave the area in a few months and his son moved to Rockdale in July. The coaches in Rockdale's district wouldn't agree to let his son be eligible to play this year and he'd have to petition the UIL for his son to play varsity this year.

[mojotrain]

Sakatha, why don't we just get a pitcher of beer and you , mojotrain and I can sit back and talk football.

opp I've been their every day until this week. My sources tell me your wearing red and white now days is that a fact?

[mojotrain]

I'm not passionate about the subject...I'm just passionate about kids. These kids lost all they had and now the one good thing that happened to them during all of this has been taken away.
Don't you think that if they were college prospects before they still are. The original team members I'm sure are crushed but the transfers may not have any loyalty toward the new digs. I would pull the trophy and perhaps hang the coach.

[mojotrain]

Bastrop has been pretty good for a few years now. They got beat in the title game the year before. Bastrop is playing an Oklahoma team this week.

I don't know what to say about my mom's old high school (she graduated from Pampa in Texas, though).

Okla by gosh homa = puds.

Pampa = Roundball:rolleyes:

[mojotrain]

My understanding was that the LA schools are private and can recruit.

Do a he mule have a hang down?

[mojotrain]

If a state as fundamentally corrupt as Louisiana can bring itself to place sanctions on a school for violating rules, then you know there were serious rules infractions.

I am frankly tired of hearing about how humanitarian these coaches were. Show me an example where they pulled members of the French Club, the band, the choir and the girls' softball team out of the shelter and offered them a place at Bastrop High and I might reconsider my opinion.

I'll vote with you!

[Favpack]

If a state as fundamentally corrupt as Louisiana can bring itself to place sanctions on a school for violating rules, then you know there were serious rules infractions.

I am frankly tired of hearing about how humanitarian these coaches were. Show me an example where they pulled members of the French Club, the band, the choir and the girls' softball team out of the shelter and offered them a place at Bastrop High and I might reconsider my opinion.


LOL - now that's funny. Did you think to consider it's jealous coaches and the sanctioning body that is corrupt? Nawww - we just assume it was some greedy coaches that knew exactly what shelter to go to the get the "best" players - what a riot.

I'm sure there ARE examples where a french club or choir group reunited at a school to better a certain department - but, wake up - NOBODY wants to hear that. We just want to tear down a team for coming together to win a football title against a lot of odds. Again - I'd rather see a choir director in Bastrop helping out choir students from NO rather than the football coach. Gimmee a break.

[Sakatha]

LOL - now that's funny. Did you think to consider it's jealous coaches and the sanctioning body that is corrupt? Nawww - we just assume it was some greedy coaches that knew exactly what shelter to go to the get the "best" players - what a riot.

I'm sure there ARE examples where a french club or choir group reunited at a school to better a certain department - but, wake up - NOBODY wants to hear that. We just want to tear down a team for coming together to win a football title against a lot of odds. Again - I'd rather see a choir director in Bastrop helping out choir students from NO rather than the football coach. Gimmee a break.

Okay, hang on. Let me make sure I am clear here...

The hurricane was a tragedy, yes...

BUT!!!

Having a coach come in and cherry pick blue chippers(as is alleged), and having them come up to live with families(I would assume this is true) that cared for them, and *then* winning a title is overcoming extreme odds... Hmmm.. See, I disagree...

Like the other poster said also, I feel bad for the kids that lost their starting jobs thanks to this nonsense.

The facts are, we don't know the 'real' story. We probably never will. Unfortunately, the judgement of myself and others has been skewed by a LOOOOOOOOOOONG history of La. just being a jacked up state with morally corrupt people running things there..

Next you will tell me that David Duke was just fighting for the rights of the oppressed white people, and that he was treated unfairly...


~DnM

[oppmojo]

opp I've been their every day until this week. My sources tell me your wearing red and white now days is that a fact?
How can I hold up my head, now that you know my wicked dirty dirty secret.:D

Wish I could be there, but business is booming and I'm trying to sell my house and move to the country.

[CLFalcon2006]

Bill Plashke's 30 seconds for winning around the horn was a plea for the Louisiana UIL to reverse its decison in the Bastrop ruling

[mojotrain]

How can I hold up my head, now that you know my wicked dirty dirty secret.:D

Wish I could be there, but business is booming and I'm trying to sell my house and move to the country.

What country?

[mojotrain]

LOL - now that's funny. Did you think to consider it's jealous coaches and the sanctioning body that is corrupt? Nawww - we just assume it was some greedy coaches that knew exactly what shelter to go to the get the "best" players - what a riot.

I'm sure there ARE examples where a french club or choir group reunited at a school to better a certain department - but, wake up - NOBODY wants to hear that. We just want to tear down a team for coming together to win a football title against a lot of odds. Again - I'd rather see a choir director in Bastrop helping out choir students from NO rather than the football coach. Gimmee a break.

Odds that no one will care?
Odds that no one turn you in .
Odds are if your caught nothing will happen?

[KatyMachine]

All I know is The Woodlands got a stud back last year. I forgot his name,but I think the first time he EVER touched a ball in a game he took it to the house for 98 KO return. I know he was piling up some sick yardage.

I remember reading an article in the Houston Chronicle about him and he said he watched the Katy-TheWoodlands game at Reliant and said he'd like to play for TWH. That they played Katy tough. they have family/familyfriends up on this side of Houston I think from what the article said

[mojotrain]

[QUOTE=Drake]I agree that the coaches probably helped these kids and perhaps the rules are/were ridiculous... But if there are a set of rules don't you think they should be adhered to? QUOTE]

There is no set of rules that tells you what to do with students whose cities, schools, and homes have just been washed away and who have been seperated from their families and the friends they grew up with and watched their neighbors and loved one's drown. These coaches pulled these kids out of the shelters and put them back on the field.

LUF, were these kids refused food, education, health care and shelter? I know of no rules pertaining to those things. Believe it or not, sports are extracurricular, for fun. Unless all those saved were scholarship material. So, were just the biggies saved from shelters or did they pick up scout teamers also? If the offers were extended to all, all, all then I do believe it was a humanitarian effort and those coach's should be commended. If I looks like they saved only those who could help them gleen a championship then it was a greedy thing and and any coach who would hide his greed behind the dress of humanitarianism should at the very least lose all he gained from those unlawful actions.

[Drake]

mojo - fix that last post please... I cant tell who said what but some of that sounds like someone else

[mojotrain]

mojo - fix that last post please... I cant tell who said what but some of that sounds like someone else

Drake I have no idea what your talking about!

[lonny23]

[QUOTE=LUFPAN]

LUF, were these kids refused food, education, health care and shelter? I know of no rules pertaining to those things. Believe it or not, sports are extracurricular, for fun. Unless all those saved were scholarship material. So, were just the biggies saved from shelters or did they pick up scout teamers also? If the offers were extended to all, all, all then I do believe it was a humanitarian effort and those coach's should be commended. If I looks like they saved only those who could help them gleen a championship then it was a greedy thing and and any coach who would hide his greed behind the dress of humanitarianism should at the very least lose all he gained from those unlawful actions.
I don't know about the rest, but I do know the QB came from Port Sulphur and he's a very good player.