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Redneckn
08-07-2005, 07:41 PM
LV people. I heard today that the LV/WM game was not going to be at Indy stadium in Shreveport as the second game that day. My pops told me that WM said they would not play a double header type situation with ECA anywhere. WTF?


I thought this was a done deal. If this is true, that would figure. WM hates ECA, that is well known. But to change up a chance like that? Odd. :confused:

catman
08-08-2005, 04:33 PM
Someone keep us advised on this situation because I was wanting to see this game whether it is played in Longview or Shreveport.

Texasfrog
08-08-2005, 04:37 PM
LV people. I heard today that the LV/WM game was not going to be at Indy stadium in Shreveport as the second game that day. My pops told me that WM said they would not play a double header type situation with ECA anywhere. WTF?


I thought this was a done deal. If this is true, that would figure. WM hates ECA, that is well known. But to change up a chance like that? Odd. :confused:

Dont know much about this.. But it has Coach Shows (Hidden dirty tricks) written all over it. If this is true ???,,, he'll be pushing to have the game at West Monroe (watch)..

But, we'll see. This might just be all rumor because usually contracts are signed. Especially if there is a TV deal included.

catman
08-08-2005, 04:43 PM
I noticed that this site lists the game as being in Monroe, but the THSCA schedule book shows the game as being in Longview. I doesn't really matter to me because I would even go to Monroe to see the game. But I will need to know when and where to park the car---hehe.

Redneckn
08-08-2005, 04:44 PM
I am hoping that it is indeed just a rumor. I was talking to "baby" (my better half) and we had decided to stay after the ECA/Springdale game to see Longview smack WM around.


I saw on another board that WM was having some issues with a new QB they got from some school in Alabama.


I guess we'll see. If I hear anything else, I'll post it.

c-lisle
08-09-2005, 08:36 AM
As far as I know the game is still on. It sounds unlikely to me for WM to pull out this close to season start. It doesn't matter where we play, I think Longview will overwhelm them. Is WM stadium big enough to hold all the Longview fans?

Redneckn
08-09-2005, 08:50 AM
Rclisle41, I would hope that the game is indeed still on at Indy. I haven't been able (no time) to get a hold of anyone back home that can tell me much for certain.

I don't think WM stadium would hold the LV fans real well. They have a nice big stadium, but it is not TEXAS big. I guess if the LV showed up and sat on the "home" side at WM stadium then they might could all fit.
Moving games to their stadium and it not holding everyone is the kind of thing coach Shows does over there. Football is both on and off the field. If he thinks they have a good chance to lose, he will do all kinds of odd things OFF the field. Head games. He is one of those types that would say "we will play at WM stadium". only the WM stadium he is talking about is someplace in Iowa or something. And his team has already been there for a week. Head games... I think the guy is mental a little a bit...

c-lisle
08-12-2005, 06:26 AM
It's official, for your viewing pleasure the game will be broadcast on Cox Communications except the game time is now 7:05 and it is at Indy. Yup, only regional coverage(TX, LA,AR), Fox Sports Net didn't want to give up the ECA/Springfield game according to the Longveiw-News Journal.

Info courtesy of Longview-News Journal.

supercentex
08-12-2005, 07:28 AM
What date is this game?

Hornified64
08-12-2005, 08:39 AM
What date is this game?


The "doubleheader" at Shreveport's Independence Stadium is
set for Saturday September 3.

Evangel vs. Springdale, Arkansas.....2PM....on Fox

Longview vs. West Monroe.....7PM ....on Cox

LoboFan07
08-13-2005, 02:04 AM
This is correct. After the freakin 5th time change.

Its gone from Friday 7:30 to Saturday 4:00 to 1:00 to 7:30 to now 7:05

Its crazy. But yea Longview vs West Monroe at 7:05 at Independent Stadium. Longview will be the home team. Ill be at the game supporting Springdale.

Redneckn
08-13-2005, 11:43 AM
Now I have to wonder, why would you not support a more local team? Everyone likes to root for the underdog right?

And why is it that you don't like ECA?

Texasfrog
08-13-2005, 12:11 PM
Now I have to wonder, why would you not support a more local team? Everyone likes to root for the underdog right?

And why is it that you don't like ECA?

I'm not speaking for anyone... I've been to a few ECA games over the last few years. My first one was ECA vs John Tyler. I think some people that have seen ECA over the years respect their abilitly. I know they have a very solid team every year. Even when they lose to a Texas team or dont win the Louisiana title they are usually very good. :)

I think some people have issues with the Christian virtue they display. They come across as a very Christian school. But, if you go watch ECA play they show some very un-christian characteristics on the field ( Some players do). I've seen them players (starting fights, cussing, very uncalled for personal fouls and ect) and I've even seen some of their coaches throw some thousand dollar words around. I know because I've seen it. Now, I also realize that Football is a violent game and that in the heat of (BATTLE) some times the animal instict in us all can come out.

Next... I think some people (Texas and Louisiana) have issues with the ECA program. I used to travel to Shreveport about once every two weeks (work). I would talk to some of the locals about football. I've heard more than ONE Shreveport native say they dont like ECA because they recruit , A.K.A "ATTRACT" alot of the good players in the local area to the ECA football team. I've even read some statements from former ECA players how they were advised to go to a ECA football practice and check the team out and talk to the coaches. You know.. (good 7th and 8th grade Junior High football player).

There is 100% no doubt that ECA "attracts" alot of the good football players in the Shreveport area to come to the school for the athletics. So, there isnt really alot of fairness and balance. In Louisiana "ECA" pretty much dominates and in Texas (some of the 5A's can compete with them) just because they have enough athletes to make it a good game. You know.. Win some and lose some. ECA is dang good, the Texas teams that have beat them the last few years havent blown them out by any means. If ECA was in Texas they would be a top line Texas team.. (but they have an advantage that the Texas UIL wouldnt allow in Texas).

So that's the some of the issues with ECA in my opinion. I'm not knocking ECA because I've also met some first class people that support and attend the program. Just giving you my perspective.

LoboFan07
08-13-2005, 12:35 PM
I think some people have issues with the christian virtue they display. They come across as a very christian school. But, if you go watch ECA play they show some very un-christian characteristics on the field ( Some players do). I've seen them players (starting fights, cussing, very uncalled for personal fouls and ect) and I've even seen some of their coaches throw some thousand dollar words around. I know because I've seen it. Now, I also realize that football is a violent game and that in the heat of (BATTLE) some times the animal instict in us all can come out.

Ding ding ding. We have a winner!
I dont support ECA at all. I admit that I was cheering for West Monroe in that State Title game. Great game that was. I dont consider Evangel to be a local team though. I consider local as far as Tyler and as close as Pine Tree/Spring Hill. Anything between there is local. Shreveport is Louisiana...not Texas.

Mad Hatter
08-13-2005, 01:58 PM
do u think that teams could recruit in texas i dont...it seems liek to me kids are so passionate about there highschool they want to make there high school famous...I dont think recruit would work the loyalty is greater here.

Texasfrog
08-13-2005, 04:20 PM
do u think that teams could recruit in texas i dont...it seems liek to me kids are so passionate about there highschool they want to make there high school famous...I dont think recruit would work the loyalty is greater here.

I think you're right to a point. Alot of the East Texas, West Texas and areas such as that. The kids grow up wanting to play for the Lobos, Panthers, Rebels , Mojo and ect. So, those kids probably wouldnt go anywhere else.

I think in some of the larger cities like Houston and Dallas. You see some player movement. My Uncle is a OC at a Houston 5A school. His lost his share of very good "blue-chips" because mom or dad moved to another apartment complex that was in another "ZONE."

But, Texas (UIL) is probably the toughest in the nation for a State sport authority and running by things by the rule book. They usually dont waver much.

My best friend is a OC in Alabama (6A school) which is on par with Texas 4A. Players move around there like the water in rivers.

Louisiana has alot of kids transfer .ie ( attracted to other schools , West Monroe, ECA and John Curtis). Schools like "ECA" can basically get whatever "athlete" they want if the kid shows a interest in them.

The Texas (UIL) really has a pretty good handle on the transfer situations. The penality for breaking those rules is pretty harsh in Texas,, so you dont see to many Coaches flirting with it.

Redneckn
08-13-2005, 08:39 PM
The whole ECA recuiting issue is pretty stupid if you ask me. Mainly because nobody, and I mean NOBODY has any proof. And yes, I know somebody knows somebody that heard from somebody about a nephew that was recruited. Again. NOBODY has any kind of proof. So that point hold no water at all.

As for the personal fouls. Well, I can't think of 1 football game I've ever attended where I haven't seen that. Kids are going to be kids. They are going to act like kids.
Where the "Christian" comes into this conversation is always kind of funny to me. It is an emotional game and tempers are going to be what they are. Not every kid on that team is a "christian". ECA doesnt try to say that they are. Some of those kids from the worst of situations. All they know is what they grew up around. Again, they are kids. And really, nobody from Longview needs to be talking about personal fouls and cheap shots. Just because it didnt get called doesnt mean it didnt happen. Lets roll the tape.
Aside from all of that. Take any kid from any school and put him in the game and things like that are going to happen. They see it when they watch NBA, NFL, NHL, most any movie, video games, ect...
They are just acting on the behavior they have learned. No, thats does not make it right.


I never suggested Shreveport was Texas. Texas couldnt handle Shreveport. It is a crime capital and overall a crappy place to live. Why do you think I moved to Austin?

One more quick point on the "recruiting". It is the coaching that is the key to their success. They are on par (most of the time) with any 5A program in Texas. Because over here, coaches (generally) are good coaches and know how to put team together. The rest of Louisiana is trying to run the ball (almost) every single down of the game. And they get beat. It is really simple. Put together a defense that can stop the run and have a gun at QB that likes to throw and you have a winner. The only schools that give ECA fits are schools that play the same kind of ball. Most every team in Louisiana is lacking. They can't accept the fact that the coaches over there are kind of crappy, so they have to have some reason.
And really, before it was the "recruiting" accusations, it was "they have all kinds of money" accusations. Which ECA does not have. When people found out that teachers were teaching for nothing or next to nothing. Including coaches. Then that is when the whole recruiting crap started.

So anyway, I was just wondering, that is why I asked. I could have easily predicted what you were going to say. It's the same old stuff.

LoboFan07
08-13-2005, 09:01 PM
As for the personal fouls. Well, I can't think of 1 football game I've ever attended where I haven't seen that. Kids are going to be kids. They are going to act like kids.
Where the "Christian" comes into this conversation is always kind of funny to me. It is an emotional game and tempers are going to be what they are. Not every kid on that team is a "christian". ECA doesnt try to say that they are. Some of those kids from the worst of situations. All they know is what they grew up around. Again, they are kids. And really, nobody from Longview needs to be talking about personal fouls and cheap shots. Just because it didnt get called doesnt mean it didnt happen. Lets roll the tape. .

You obviously havent watched the games then, unless you consider that being "kid acting". Im 17 and I've never done what ECA does. Im not saying that our guys dont do it either but we dont run around before the game with signs saying "WE LOVE THE LOBOS".."ECA WELCOMES THE LOBOS. GOD LOVES YOU". I'll be the first to admit that I've seen our guys do the same thing. But the We dont do that kind of stuff because we're Christians stuff that ECA claims they do is just total bs. Run the tapes be my guest. Cause you obviously need to refresh your memory on ECA vs Longview games.

Texasfrog
08-13-2005, 09:16 PM
The whole ECA recuiting issue is pretty stupid if you ask me. Mainly because nobody, and I mean NOBODY has any proof. And yes, I know somebody knows somebody that heard from somebody about a nephew that was recruited. Again. NOBODY has any kind of proof. So that point hold no water at all.

As for the personal fouls. Well, I can't think of 1 football game I've ever attended where I haven't seen that. Kids are going to be kids. They are going to act like kids.
Where the "Christian" comes into this conversation is always kind of funny to me. It is an emotional game and tempers are going to be what they are. Not every kid on that team is a "christian". ECA doesnt try to say that they are. Some of those kids from the worst of situations. All they know is what they grew up around. Again, they are kids. And really, nobody from Longview needs to be talking about personal fouls and cheap shots. Just because it didnt get called doesnt mean it didnt happen. Lets roll the tape.
Aside from all of that. Take any kid from any school and put him in the game and things like that are going to happen. They see it when they watch NBA, NFL, NHL, most any movie, video games, ect...
They are just acting on the behavior they have learned. No, thats does not make it right.


I never suggested Shreveport was Texas. Texas couldnt handle Shreveport. It is a crime capital and overall a crappy place to live. Why do you think I moved to Austin?

One more quick point on the "recruiting". It is the coaching that is the key to their success. They are on par (most of the time) with any 5A program in Texas. Because over here, coaches (generally) are good coaches and know how to put team together. The rest of Louisiana is trying to run the ball (almost) every single down of the game. And they get beat. It is really simple. Put together a defense that can stop the run and have a gun at QB that likes to throw and you have a winner. The only schools that give ECA fits are schools that play the same kind of ball. Most every team in Louisiana is lacking. They can't accept the fact that the coaches over there are kind of crappy, so they have to have some reason.
And really, before it was the "recruiting" accusations, it was "they have all kinds of money" accusations. Which ECA does not have. When people found out that teachers were teaching for nothing or next to nothing. Including coaches. Then that is when the whole recruiting crap started.

So anyway, I was just wondering, that is why I asked. I could have easily predicted what you were going to say. It's the same old stuff.

Redneck,, there is a "FINELINE" between recruiting & attracting football players. The Texas UIL I can promise you doesnt seperate that line like it is done at ECA and Louisiana.

I know for a fact that kids show up to ECA from all over Northern Louisiana to play football at ECA. That's the "ONLY" reason they go and travel to ECA is for the football. That's a 100% fact.

Your going to sit here and "LIE" to me and tell me that all those football players for ECA live right in that ECA school zone...??? PLEASEEEEEEE.. They come from all over the surrounding Shreveport area.

The Texas UIL wouldnt allow that. Those kids could go to ECA if it were in Texas. But, they wouldnt be allowed to play sports.

Next.. even you say that many of those kids for ECA come from rough home lifes. Do they PAY the full Evangel tuition ?? NOPE. Some people would call that a SCHOLARSHIP my buddy.

DT- Stevie Lee (ECA & Univ-Tx) did a interview a couple of years ago. He told how he was invited to a ECA practice by some of the coaches. He like what he saw at the practice and decided to attend ECA. Hmmm,, sounds like "R" to me. This is right from the mouth of a former ECA player.

Like I said, "there is a very very fine line between RECRUITING & ATTRACTING football players." I dont think the Texas UIL would see the difference however and many people in Texas and apparently in Louisian dont really see the difference either.

If its a quacks like a duck & walks like a duck... "its a DUCK." ie. Recruiting.

bleedgreen
08-13-2005, 10:46 PM
Redneckin----you definitely made some good points in your post.i agree with you to a certain extent...i believe the proof was pretty evident last season when the QB from McKinney wasn't allowed to play for you guys(if i'm thinking correctly)....wasn't that some sort of a "recruiting" scandal?? kind of put you guys in a bind with Duron having to QB the game, right?? although he is a sub-par QB, you could have used him at his normal, wide-out position....and as for all of the kids being in the "ECA area" of Shreveport, i know for a fact that there have been several kids come to ECA from all around the country. i'm sorry, Shreveport is not that attractive to move to from all over the U.S.....that should tell you a little something right there??.....ECA is a great program, don't get me wrong, brother.....you moved from Shreveport to Austin---crime not as high, but damn near! at least you moved close to the greatest university in the country...HOOK'EM HORNS!!!!! are you an LSU fan(as most La. people are)?? if so, that's cool--i like the Bayou Bengals as well........best looking women i've ever seen :eek: :eek: :p :p

Texasfrog
08-13-2005, 11:24 PM
Redneckin----you definitely made some good points in your post.i agree with you to a certain extent...i believe the proof was pretty evident last season when the QB from McKinney wasn't allowed to play for you guys(if i'm thinking correctly)....wasn't that some sort of a "recruiting" scandal?? kind of put you guys in a bind with Duron having to QB the game, right?? although he is a sub-par QB, you could have used him at his normal, wide-out position....and as for all of the kids being in the "ECA area" of Shreveport, i know for a fact that there have been several kids come to ECA from all around the country. i'm sorry, Shreveport is not that attractive to move to from all over the U.S.....that should tell you a little something right there??.....ECA is a great program, don't get me wrong, brother.....you moved from Shreveport to Austin---crime not as high, but damn near! at least you moved close to the greatest university in the country...HOOK'EM HORNS!!!!! are you an LSU fan(as most La. people are)?? if so, that's cool--i like the Bayou Bengals as well........best looking women i've ever seen :eek: :eek: :p :p



You can bet that alot of the Texas Public School coaches are watching Dallas Jesuit and Houston Strake Jesuit football teams like a Hawk to see where there players are coming from.

bleedgreen
08-13-2005, 11:26 PM
Amen!!

pack0808
08-14-2005, 12:55 AM
I would have to with Texas Tech or Ole Miss as the best looking women i have ever seen at a University. Tech is loaded with ridiculously hot women!! Go to a Tech game in Lubbock or an Ole Miss game and you will see what i am saying.

Texasfrog
08-14-2005, 08:19 AM
I would have to with Texas Tech or Ole Miss as the best looking women i have ever seen at a University. Tech is loaded with ridiculously hot women!! Go to a Tech game in Lubbock or an Ole Miss game and you will see what i am saying.

I'll have to go with you on Mississippi. Its almost stupid how many good looking women they have per capita. :)

Redneckn
08-14-2005, 09:53 AM
The kid from McKinney did play. He just was a crappy QB. He ended up playing RB or some such. I didnt like him.. The whole thing was stinking when he first showed up. He did come to play football. Saying that though, he had a vailid reason to be here with his dad taking the a coaching job for the Bossier BattleWings AF2 team.
Funny thing though. Now that the kid is graduated. The dad has quit that coaching position and moved on. I dont like how that whole things smells honestly.

I never said every kid at ECA lives in the "district". At a private school, your district is wherever. But you have to go there for like a year before you can play. Like I did. I lived in Southwoods district and was not allowed to play my first year at ECA. I'm sure there are loads of other mess to go along with that kind of thing though.
All I am saying is that recruiting as defined by the state of La. is something that nobody has been able to prove. As much as ECA is hated, if it was some kind of violating, it would have been found out.

Scolorship. What's the real problem with that? My X wife went there on a scolorship. She didnt play football either. And they sure didnt do it because I did. They did everything they could to keep her and I from seeing each other.


Bledgreen. I know kids come to Shreveport to play for ECA. But there is a right way to move and hoops that must be jumed thru and they do it. So if the state says it is a legal move, then what more could anybody want?

No, I hate LSU. I generally dont pay much attention to college ball.

Honestly, I really do find the whole thing amusing. If anybody things that there is any love between any school or governing body in La. and ECA, they have not read the news or went to a game lately. I'm telling you. Any school that plays ECA in Louisiana is the the favored team to win that as far as the state, other team, coaches, whomever are concerned.
I gotta go. Baby is making me go to a movie. So i will have to come back here later.

bleedgreen
08-14-2005, 12:32 PM
sounds to me that your "baby" is making you jump through hoops--LOL...i know, i know....i was married up until a few weeks ago..i know how it is....enjoy the movie, brother.......well, since you can't stand LSU, then you are living in the right place to become a Longhorn faithful...you have nothing to lose. join the "burnt-orange" club.....we'll call it your first right of passage as a "new" Texan--LOL......................................

Texasfrog
08-14-2005, 01:52 PM
The kid from McKinney did play. He just was a crappy QB. He ended up playing RB or some such. I didnt like him.. The whole thing was stinking when he first showed up. He did come to play football. Saying that though, he had a vailid reason to be here with his dad taking the a coaching job for the Bossier BattleWings AF2 team.
Funny thing though. Now that the kid is graduated. The dad has quit that coaching position and moved on. I dont like how that whole things smells honestly.

I never said every kid at ECA lives in the "district". At a private school, your district is wherever. But you have to go there for like a year before you can play. Like I did. I lived in Southwoods district and was not allowed to play my first year at ECA. I'm sure there are loads of other mess to go along with that kind of thing though.
All I am saying is that recruiting as defined by the state of La. is something that nobody has been able to prove. As much as ECA is hated, if it was some kind of violating, it would have been found out.

Scolorship. What's the real problem with that? My X wife went there on a scolorship. She didnt play football either. And they sure didnt do it because I did. They did everything they could to keep her and I from seeing each other.


Bledgreen. I know kids come to Shreveport to play for ECA. But there is a right way to move and hoops that must be jumed thru and they do it. So if the state says it is a legal move, then what more could anybody want?

No, I hate LSU. I generally dont pay much attention to college ball.

Honestly, I really do find the whole thing amusing. If anybody things that there is any love between any school or governing body in La. and ECA, they have not read the news or went to a game lately. I'm telling you. Any school that plays ECA in Louisiana is the the favored team to win that as far as the state, other team, coaches, whomever are concerned.
I gotta go. Baby is making me go to a movie. So i will have to come back here later.

Redneck, the kid from Mckinley, Tx was QB-Goeff Nixon and no he never played one down at ECA. He was going to be ECA starting QB and would of helped ECA out alot against DLS (California). Nixon was good enough to get a football scholarship to Murray State to play QB even though he didnt play one down his senior year at ECA.

The kid you're talking about is QB/RB- Billy Barfield who came out of San Antonio, Tx. He transfered to ECA. Trust me he made ECA alot better team with his athletic ability and he signed a football scholarship to the University of Memphis to be a WR/SB.

Now, on the scholarship issue. If kids (which they do) go to ECA to play football and the only way they get into the school is on some type of scholarship to get by the private school tuition. My friend, that is a form of RECRUITING.. "Athletic scholarship." :rolleyes:

I'm not saying that the ECA coaches are making "Home visits" and going to all the Junior High football games scanning for talent. But, when these kids "A" and "B" find their way to an ECA practice to observe. They end up talking to the ECA coaches and what do you know.. Kid "A" and kid "B" find themselves at the ECA campus their freshman year and they are on athletic scholarship. You can bet the ECA coaches already know who Kid "A" and kid "B" are also.

THATS RECRUITING.. plain and simple. ;)

Redneckn
08-14-2005, 08:31 PM
TexasFrog.
Ok, so you define recruiting as a kid coming in under a scolorship, and playing ball. I guess my point is that they dont just come in and start playing. You cant. I started going to ECA in my sophomore year was not able to play in games until my junior year. Although, by then I was irritated with the whole thing and ended up back at Southwood.

My point is that a kid that played ball for FairPark (for example) last year, cant come to ECA this year and play ball. Unless he is living in the ECA "district" which is Huntingtons district.

The whole mess is confusing, but rest assure, nothing "against the rules" has gone on. ECA is steady under a microscope.



yes. Barefield was the kid I was thinking about. He didnt do anything for me. I mean, in my own opinion, he is the main reason ECA did not do better against Springdale last year. He was ok once they got him running.. I never liked him being there and didnt like the way the whole thing went down. But, I didnt like getting kicked out of ECA for smoking off campus either. It is all water under the bridge now... haha..



BleedGreen. yes, I jump thru hoops for baby any day of the week. We have been dating off and on for 7 years. After football season this year, we tie the knot... Nobody else will put up with my and twisted sense of humor.. :D
Really though, she takes good care of me. When I was in bed for 3 months with a back injury, she came over 2 and 3 times a day around her work and school to empty out my p!$s bottle (and other things). not many women will do things like that.. unless you have a lot of money.. i dont. haha..
She will be starting at UT in the next year or so. Assuming they offer whatever it is she is doing...

And, she is a football nut. she likes to ride 4wheelers. mudride. watch bullriding. camping. I found the perfect woman.

Texasfrog
08-14-2005, 08:53 PM
[Ya Redneck, that's all I'm saying. When a kid goes to a Private school on basically an athletic scholarship (which several at ECA do). That's a form of recruiting. There is no doubt that several of the ECA "studs" are only at ECA because they are on some form of financial aid (because they are an athlete).

I agree with you on Billy Barfield. He wasnt the best QB for ECA pass happy style of offense and I'm sure it hurt them in the Springdale game. But, the kid is one heck of an athlete and should be a pretty solid player for the Univ-Memphis.

PS. I also think that if the Booty kid would of been there against DLS a couple of years ago ECA would of beaten DLS. I also think if DLS would of come to Shreveport they would of lost (even without Booty). DLS had about 5 kids going both ways and the heat & humidity down here would of drain them by halftime.

Redneckn
08-14-2005, 10:39 PM
TexasFrog.
I was beside myself about the Barefield kid. I read before he ever got to shreveport that he was a "runner". That kind of play doesnt fare very well with the standard ECA offense.

I think that Booty leaving.. Ok, both (coach and QB) really hurt the team a lot more than most really let on. I know from talking to a lot the kids. They were kind of stuck out there with no real explanation and the rumors got going rather quickly. So you had a lot of kids that didnt want to be at ECA but then, couldnt go anywhere else to and play. It was their senior year and all. Plus, they really had nowhere to go. I think once the dust completely settles between ECA and Calvary it will be a lot of fun. I don't really want to go home for that game this year, but I more than likely will. Just to see what kind of fireworks there are. It will be interesting.

I have no doubt that they would have dominated at DLS with Booty. They really would have laid down the spank if DLS would have come to Shreveport. The wonderful southern climate would have worn them down quick.
What ever happened to DLS? I noticed they are not ranked this year.


Ya know, I was recruited by ECA. I went up there to meet them and see if I could go there. They said yes, but I'd have to cut my mullet. I was devasted. But I ended up there anyway. When I got kicked out and went back to Southwood, the coach called me into his office to ask me if I wanted to play ball. I told him no. He says "fine, then get the hell outta here".

When I was at ECA, we did recruit for the drum corps. Every school we played, we would go over and invite just the drums to come and sit with us and play. We had nothing but drums. That was fun.


Oh. you longview people. What's the deal with the sweet little black guy on the dance line? I laffed so hard at him. Personally, I think that is why Longview plays so hard and is so determined. They have to make up for "sweetie" on the dance line..hahahaha

relraiderfan
08-15-2005, 12:05 AM
What was the real reason that Booty (coach) leave? I heard there were some religious implications behind it? And I am assuming that Calvary is the school he went to their in La. Are they any good?

Texasfrog
08-15-2005, 12:06 AM
TexasFrog.
I was beside myself about the Barefield kid. I read before he ever got to shreveport that he was a "runner". That kind of play doesnt fare very well with the standard ECA offense.

I think that Booty leaving.. Ok, both (coach and QB) really hurt the team a lot more than most really let on. I know from talking to a lot the kids. They were kind of stuck out there with no real explanation and the rumors got going rather quickly. So you had a lot of kids that didnt want to be at ECA but then, couldnt go anywhere else to and play. It was their senior year and all. Plus, they really had nowhere to go. I think once the dust completely settles between ECA and Calvary it will be a lot of fun. I don't really want to go home for that game this year, but I more than likely will. Just to see what kind of fireworks there are. It will be interesting.

I have no doubt that they would have dominated at DLS with Booty. They really would have laid down the spank if DLS would have come to Shreveport. The wonderful southern climate would have worn them down quick.
What ever happened to DLS? I noticed they are not ranked this year.


Ya know, I was recruited by ECA. I went up there to meet them and see if I could go there. They said yes, but I'd have to cut my mullet. I was devasted. But I ended up there anyway. When I got kicked out and went back to Southwood, the coach called me into his office to ask me if I wanted to play ball. I told him no. He says "fine, then get the hell outta here".

When I was at ECA, we did recruit for the drum corps. Every school we played, we would go over and invite just the drums to come and sit with us and play. We had nothing but drums. That was fun.


Oh. you longview people. What's the deal with the sweet little black guy on the dance line? I laffed so hard at him. Personally, I think that is why Longview plays so hard and is so determined. They have to make up for "sweetie" on the dance line..hahahaha

Ya, I know a daddy that has a couple of sons that played for ECA. His told me some stories about ECA. He also told that after the Booty turmoil it really split the team (Booty camp & Duron camp). It really hurt ECA going into the DLS game in California.

I have no doubt that if DLS would of come to Shreveport the "head index" would of played a major factor with them (with all those 2 way players).

It should be an interesting year for ECA. If their new QB & RB can make plays they should have a solid chance. I saw both the ECA vs Abilene & ECA vs Longview games last year on DVD. It really looked like they had alot of very good underclassman especially on defense. It will all depend on the new QB and RB for them.

bleedgreen
08-15-2005, 01:55 AM
the best Viewette that we have--better than the girls, that's the truth!! seriously, Brian is a really good and respectable kid--just likes to highkick rather than bust heads :cool: :cool: ...his daddy is down on the field each and every game taking pictures of him and is very proud of his son....if he's that good, why not??? the funny thing is that brian is a pretty big, muscular guy that would definitely do some damage on the football field.....i say keep on keeping on, brother.......when he does those drop-down splits, all you can hear around the stadium is OUCH or OHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! laughing at a Lobo?? man, that's 30 lashes with the cat-of-nine-tails for you my ECA friend--LOL......hold on, did i just call somebody from ECA my friend???? i better go and check my temperature...........you're not upholding your ECA "holier than thou" facade by laughing at people, Redneckin......go and say 20 hail-Mary's and do 10 rosaries.................................

LoboFan07
08-15-2005, 05:26 AM
Brian is definately a character.

Funny to see all those JT, Lee, and Lp fans go nuts for him when he passes by..

But at different games like when we're facing teams from Dallas they seem surprised. Cant forget that SG game when they were REALLY into it.

He's a good guy for sure. Hey man if you can do it, go right on ahead. Be my guest.

Games wont be the same now without him to watch do those splits :eek:

Redneckn
08-15-2005, 09:07 AM
relraiderfan: As I understand the whole thing it had most to do with Booty wanting to for his own "church" situation, but remaining on the First Assembly of God payroll while doing this. That is what it is on the outside looking in anyway. Neither party has said much about it other than it is "a personal matter and I would rather not discuss it".
Calvary was a respected school/team back in the 80's. They were part of the now defunct L.I.S.A. with several other private schools across Louisiana, Texas, and Mississippi. They have not had a team in several years. Booty (sr) ended up there and getting a sports program going.


Lobopeople. Uh.. haha.. "Brian". We just get a good laff about it. I think it's fine if that's what he likes to do. That doesnt make it less funny though. He is good though. Baby commented on that. Me, I was on the cellfone telling people about it.



No, I am not "hollier than thou". I am better than everyone. Being a Fascist and a zealot are different..hahaha..

We dont do the hail marys and whatnot.. That is catholics... we just go and feel real bad about it and get prayed for. :rolleyes:

pack0808
08-15-2005, 11:38 AM
Baby?? At first i thought you were just really sickening and mushy and you just called your woman baby all of the time even on a board. ;) Then i realized that is her actual name!! I have not heard that name since the movie dirty dancing. That was the main girl's name.

LPFAN
08-15-2005, 11:58 AM
Baby?? At first i thought you were just really sickening and mushy and you just called your woman baby all of the time even on a board. ;) Then i realized that is her actual name!! I have not heard that name since the movie dirty dancing. That was the main girl's name.
Nobody Puts Baby In A Corner!!!

LPFAN
08-15-2005, 12:03 PM
Nobody Puts Baby In A Corner!!!
By the way Redneckn I am not refering to your Baby. I just remember the corny movie pack0808 was talking about and that was one of the corny lines I remember from that movie.

pack0808
08-15-2005, 12:09 PM
LOL Lpfan!! :)

Redneckn
08-15-2005, 12:17 PM
pack0808 Baby?? At first i thought you were just really sickening and mushy and you just called your woman baby all of the time even on a board. Then i realized that is her actual name!! I have not heard that name since the movie dirty dancing. That was the main girl's name.

LMFOA. That is funny. Her real name is not baby..hahaha.. I have a really close friend that made fun of me calling her that and it just kind of took off from there. So now, that is what I call her all the time and now all of our friends do too.

wide-e-wide
08-15-2005, 12:33 PM
I call my wife Honey doo-wop...
Don't ask me where I came up with that...
And she calls me @-hole.

Redneckn
08-15-2005, 12:37 PM
And she calls me @-hole.
Now that sir is funny.
That's what my X wife calls me. In fact, just this past saturday she called me that..

pack0808
08-15-2005, 12:40 PM
I call my wife Honey doo-wop...
Don't ask me where I came up with that...
And she calls me @-hole.

LMAO Thanks for the Dr. Pepper burn coming out of my nose!! I should know better then to read a post from you while i am drinking something. ;)

wide-e-wide
08-15-2005, 01:03 PM
I like the way you refer to your ex-wife as your X wife.
Since X stands for "the unknown" that is probably a more
accurate title huh? Since we never know what the hell they
want...or what the hell they are talking about...I think
I'll start saying my X wife too..hahahaha

Redneckn
08-15-2005, 01:15 PM
Yeah, my X hates that crap. She really hates it when I pretend to not recall her name then call her X.
My X seriously expects me to MAKE the state of Louisiana answer their phone so I can ask them why they havent been taking child support out of my check.
So, no. You never really do know what the hell they are talking about.

wide-e-wide
08-15-2005, 01:16 PM
Oh brother...don't get me started.
Back to the original topic...because I could write
a book about this one.

Redneckn
08-15-2005, 06:23 PM
Ya know. the crowd over in West Monroe has been talking quit a bit of smak lately about Lonview. They are all like "we're gonna schools those losers". I just wanted you Longview people to know that. I sure hope you can manage to pull a win out. After coming off a loss to Marshall it may be hard to get it together to take down WM.

LoboFan07
08-15-2005, 06:43 PM
Let WM talk all they want.

Who cares. They have nothing againist us except for two wins in 59 and 60 during our 20 year playoff drought.

I find it funny though you think Marshall will beat us. You really think that O Line and that QB is gonna beat us?

Their QB cant run a bit. And Ive heard their center and QB snaps are HORRIBLE. Fumbles like crazy. Well Ill find out more about that on Friday when I go see the scrimmage againist LE.

WM is WM. They cant beat ECA. We can. It'll be fun to see for sure. Have plenty of friends over in Monroe right now and I havent heard one word of smack from them. Where are you getting that they are talking smack? Cause they arent on OleRebels.com

Redneckn
08-15-2005, 07:11 PM
No, I don't think Marshall is going to be LV. But it's sure fun to say it.

Y'all were playing WM way back then? Interesting. The history I mean. I am going to stay for part of the WM/LV game. Unless it is really interesting I will be leaving at the end of the 1st Q.

LoboFan07
08-15-2005, 07:17 PM
Yep. Dont know how but we did.
1959 at West Monroe, Lost 13-7
1960 vs West Monroe, Lost 8-6

We were 2-7-1 in 1960 I believe. But we were Co-District Champs in 59 but I believe John Tyler went to the playoffs? Just going off my memory though.

Ill be there for the ECA/Springdale game since our tickets say that they are for that game also. I dunno if Ill get there right at 2...Depending how hot it is.

bleedgreen
08-15-2005, 08:55 PM
LMFAO, as well!!! Redneck, LPFan, Pack0808, and Wide-----you guys are nuts--LOL............i too have a recent X......i'm with you Wide, i'll stop on that subject. i could definitely write a novel, even if it's only been 4 months....never do it again though!! so me, redneck, and wide are all divorced--why am i not surprised--LOL........c'mon, Pack0808--it's your turn, brother...................

wide-e-wide
08-16-2005, 12:52 AM
LMFAO, as well!!! Redneck, LPFan, Pack0808, and Wide-----you guys are nuts--LOL............i too have a recent X......i'm with you Wide, i'll stop on that subject. i could definitely write a novel, even if it's only been 4 months....never do it again though!! so me, redneck, and wide are all divorced--why am i not surprised--LOL........c'mon, Pack0808--it's your turn, brother...................

He tried.....and failed. Seems for some reason she's in love with his silly ***.
I ain't mad at 'ya bro....besides the child support would kill you at this point.
Believe me ....I know.

pack0808
08-16-2005, 10:08 AM
Yeah i cannot figure it out?? I would not still be with me that is for sure. LOL Nah i have changed a lot and i still love my wife sometimes. ;) If i got divorced i would be severely broke even if i worked for NASA with as many kids as i have. :D Ok nobody wants to here my personal life stories so i will stop there.

So does Monroe and Evangel every play?? I am sure Evangel owns that series if so?? Who is the Lousiana team or teams Marshall has been playing recently?? Seems like they always play Lousiana teams??

Redneckn
08-16-2005, 11:26 AM
Pack.
ECA and WM dont play unless they have to. They agreed to play us a few years back and they beat us at INDY. they were all eager to play the next year and we went to WM to play them. They were schooled on how the game is played. that was the only time ECA has lost to them. We have played them a few times in state championship game. I think we have played them 7 or 8 times maybe. we have only lost that 1 to them.

They sure wont play us now. They wouldnt play ECA when ECA was 3A. They sure wont do it now..haha..

gltbiter
08-16-2005, 10:24 PM
TXfrog. You need to read the LHSaa rules http://www.lhsaa.org/Eligibility.htm and use those as the definition of recruiting. You can not make your own version of recruiting and apply it in another state. If ECA had ever violated the LHSAA recruiting rules we would all know it because WM would broadcast it long and loud. :eek:
A kid can live in Monroe and go to W. Monroe. he has to sit out one year. A kid can live in Bossier City and go to ECA. He has to sit out a year. All schools in the whole state go by this rule. The only schools that "attract" this type of action are WM, JC , ECA and a few others.
I am told Jesuit and Strake can do the same thing in Texas. a kid from Irving can go to Jesuit but has to sit out a year. It will not be long before you have the same problem in Texas because I know there are kids all over the Metroplex that would like the education they can get from Jesuit. That would be an Academic scholarship they would get. :D

dragons08
08-16-2005, 10:27 PM
I call my wife Honey doo-wop...
Don't ask me where I came up with that...
And she calls me @-hole.
hahahahaha wideman, honey doo-wop, i'll call some girl that and see how it goes...i'll tell you if all i get is ahole

bleedgreen
08-17-2005, 12:21 AM
pack0808-----Marshall has been playing Huntington La. and Monroe Ouchita for a few years now......or i think that they still play Ouchita...............

LoboFan07
08-17-2005, 01:45 AM
They're playing Shreveport Huntington and Shreveport Byrd this year.

Dropped MO for some reason.