Will SLC play any scrimmages? [Archive]

my3sons

08-08-2006, 01:03 PM

It is nice to have 2 scrimmages this year and not have to play at 2:00 Sat afternoon during 0 week. 7:30 on Sep 8 is going to be hot enough. The 2 scrimmages and 3 non-district games should get the Dragons ready for district. Too bad Coppell quit our rivalry.

LUFPAN

08-08-2006, 01:09 PM

SLC will roll through this game. This will be more boring than watching you guys play Denton Ryan on the tube.

drgnbkr

08-08-2006, 01:40 PM

SLC will roll through this game. This will be more boring than watching you guys play Denton Ryan on the tube.

If you've not been to a Carroll / Denton Ryan game your missing out. The scores do not adequately reflect the hitting and intensity. They have a really good program over there at Ryan.

ScottS

08-11-2006, 07:46 AM

2 weeks and 1 day!

my3sons

08-11-2006, 01:00 PM

Practice begins Monday!!!!

ScottS

08-13-2006, 09:09 AM

I'm going out on a limb and say SLC wins both of these scrimmages.

ScottS

08-15-2006, 08:07 AM

Anyone have a practice update? Also, is anyone else going to these scrimmages?

dragons08

08-15-2006, 09:56 PM

Anyone have a practice update? Also, is anyone else going to these scrimmages?
i might check out both of them for a lil bit..but the one on a saturday at 10 in the morning is too early for my taste :eek: ...but so is 7 for band, so i'll probally stop by for both, at least one of them though

pack0808

08-16-2006, 10:10 AM

If you've not been to a Carroll / Denton Ryan game your missing out. The scores do not adequately reflect the hitting and intensity. They have a really good program over there at Ryan.

It sure did not look like that in the 2 games that were on tv. Especially last year!! :eek: It looked like men playing around with boys.

pack0808

08-16-2006, 10:15 AM

I'm going out on a limb and say SLC wins both of these scrimmages.

Who cares it is a scrimmage where everybody plays including the scrubs. Not to mention it is for 1 half. Maybe DR will get t-shirts if they pull it out. ;)

drgnbkr

08-16-2006, 12:11 PM

It sure did not look like that in the 2 games that were on tv. Especially last year!! :eek: It looked like men playing around with boys.

Like I said, the scores do not reflect the feel of the games we had with DR. I sat down close to the field at the game in Denton last year and it was a big game atmosphere, with all the pad poppin you could want. As usual, the Dragons had more weapons than they did, but they did'nt lack effort & toughness.

farmerfan

08-16-2006, 02:17 PM

I agree with dgrbkr. I also thought the first game they had that was on TV was real exciting for the first 2 and a half quarters. The playoff game was also a exciting ball game. Ryan was in that game till the 4th quarter then Carroll pulled away. That was the one time I thought JoFlo came it with a terrible game plan as Ryan tried to run the ball to much. Last years game was not that exciting but it did not lack in the hitting and like dragonbacker said the Ryan players never quit.
Yall keep a eye out on Ryan the next two years, next years team probably will be one of if not the most talented senior classes to come through Ryan. The talk around Denton right now is increditble concerning the talent in the sophmore and junior classes :eek:

pack0808

08-16-2006, 03:08 PM

Like I said, the scores do not reflect the feel of the games we had with DR. I sat down close to the field at the game in Denton last year and it was a big game atmosphere, with all the pad poppin you could want. As usual, the Dragons had more weapons than they did, but they did'nt lack effort & toughness.

The game that I watched on TV last year looked like a complete mismatch. It was a joke and I did not have to be there in person to realize that. If I remember correctly it was a lot to 0??

DrEdward

08-16-2006, 04:32 PM

The game that I watched on TV last year looked like a complete mismatch. It was a joke and I did not have to be there in person to realize that. If I remember correctly it was a lot to 0??

Certainly last year's match between Ryan and Carroll was not as competitive a game as many of us expected it to be. There was, however, a lot of very tough football played in Denton's new stadium by the Raiders. It would be going too far to say that it was a joke, for Carroll was simply a much better team last year than Ryan was. This year it looks like Ryan may be back as one of the real deals in 4A along with Fossil Ridge. Good luck to both those schools.

drgnbkr

08-16-2006, 05:26 PM

I say again, Denton Ryan only lost a few games while in 5-A. Most to Carroll. They handled most of the rest of the 5-A teams they faced.

pack0808

08-17-2006, 09:28 AM

I say again, Denton Ryan only lost a few games while in 5-A. Most to Carroll. They handled most of the rest of the 5-A teams they faced.

They were very good their 1st year but were a little above average their 2nd year IMO.

SLCDad

08-17-2006, 09:47 AM

They were very good their 1st year but were a little above average their 2nd year IMO.Jerry's PigskinPrep model had Denton Ryan 56th in 5A which would put them in the top 22% of 5A schools. If they had been in 4A they would be in the lower half of the Top 20.

pack0808

08-17-2006, 10:21 AM

Jerry's PigskinPrep model had Denton Ryan 56th in 5A which would put them in the top 22% of 5A schools. If they had been in 4A they would be in the lower half of the Top 20.

Seems a little high for a team with 4 losses and a 1st round exit?

dragonsdaddy

08-17-2006, 01:24 PM

Seems a little high for a team with 4 losses and a 1st round exit?
considering joflo has intimated this may be his best team ever, i'd say it's a little low. look for dr to be playing late in the po's again.

pack0808

08-17-2006, 04:02 PM

considering joflo has intimated this may be his best team ever, i'd say it's a little low. look for dr to be playing late in the po's again.

I definitely expect them to be a dominant 4a team again.

farmerfan

08-17-2006, 04:12 PM

I definitely expect them to be a dominant 4a team again.

it's a shame that Ryan has gone down to 4A at this point. The team they will have the next 2-3 years will be as good as any they have had. I know the response we will get from the 5a eltist is that they couldnt do it in 5A but once they go down to 4A they win state again. I firmly believe had Ryan stayed in 5A they would be among the top 5 teams in the state by years end.

DrEdward

08-17-2006, 04:31 PM

it's a shame that Ryan has gone down to 4A at this point. The team they will have the next 2-3 years will be as good as any they have had. I know the response we will get from the 5a eltist is that they couldnt do it in 5A but once they go down to 4A they win state again. I firmly believe had Ryan stayed in 5A they would be among the top 5 teams in the state by years end.

You may well be right, but they sure didn't do as well in 5A as some of us expected. Not bad, just not up to expectations. However, the Ryan fans that I have talked over the past several years really wanted to stay in/get back to 4A.

pack0808

08-17-2006, 04:54 PM

it's a shame that Ryan has gone down to 4A at this point. The team they will have the next 2-3 years will be as good as any they have had. I know the response we will get from the 5a eltist is that they couldnt do it in 5A but once they go down to 4A they win state again. I firmly believe had Ryan stayed in 5A they would be among the top 5 teams in the state by years end.

Weird? Their excuse for not dominating 5a like they did in 4a in the 4 years before was because of the new school? Now all of the sudden they have their best classes back at the same time they are going back down to 4a? Okie dokie. ;)

SLC13

08-17-2006, 05:56 PM

it's a shame that Ryan has gone down to 4A at this point..............I firmly believe had Ryan stayed in 5A they would be among the top 5 teams in the state by years end.

and 2nd in 5-5A.......:D

farmerfan

08-17-2006, 06:55 PM

You may well be right, but they sure didn't do as well in 5A as some of us expected. Not bad, just not up to expectations. However, the Ryan fans that I have talked over the past several years really wanted to stay in/get back to 4A.

What were your expectations for them? Their first year they went 12-2 losing to only one team. The following year they were breaking in a entire new line and QB and lost early to HP and to Carroll. They let Fossil Ridge upset them but then took a 9-1 very good SGP team to OT in the first round of the playoffs. That same SGP team gave Plano everything they could handle the following week.
Some of the Ryan fans I ahve talked to around Denton really would have liked to stay in 5A. JoFlo is very high on his underclassmen and after talking to a buddy who went to their spring game he said they are loaded with talent.

farmerfan

08-17-2006, 06:58 PM

Weird? Their excuse for not dominating 5a like they did in 4a in the 4 years before was because of the new school? Now all of the sudden they have their best classes back at the same time they are going back down to 4a? Okie dokie. ;)

I dont remember hearing that from many. Guyer the new school affected more of DHS than it did Ryan. The areas Guyer draws from dont even come close to the areas that Ryan draws from. The majority of Ryans talent comes from Strickland middle school and not one kid from Strickland will be going to Guyer. I guess it is easy to blame the opening of a new school to a drop but you have to remember while in 5A, Ryan lost to a total of 3 5A schools. The only 5A school to have a lop sided score on Ryan was Carroll.

DrEdward

08-18-2006, 01:02 AM

What were your expectations for them? Their first year they went 12-2 losing to only one team. The following year they were breaking in a entire new line and QB and lost early to HP and to Carroll. They let Fossil Ridge upset them but then took a 9-1 very good SGP team to OT in the first round of the playoffs. That same SGP team gave Plano everything they could handle the following week.
Some of the Ryan fans I ahve talked to around Denton really would have liked to stay in 5A. JoFlo is very high on his underclassmen and after talking to a buddy who went to their spring game he said they are loaded with talent.

Obviously we talked to different people from Ryan. I had some of my initial conversation withthe Ryan fans in San Antonio the last year they were in 4A and Carroll and Ryan were both playing in the championhips. At that time, the officials I spoke with were hoping to remain in 4A. Now they well could have changed their minds over the past year or so, but once again, the fans I talked to this past season were pretty excited to be going back to 4A. Nothing wrong with that; or it simply could have been anticiaption of the talent they thought was coming up and they might have a much better run in 4A than in 5A.

farmerfan

08-18-2006, 04:23 AM

Obviously we talked to different people from Ryan. I had some of my initial conversation withthe Ryan fans in San Antonio the last year they were in 4A and Carroll and Ryan were both playing in the championhips. At that time, the officials I spoke with were hoping to remain in 4A. Now they well could have changed their minds over the past year or so, but once again, the fans I talked to this past season were pretty excited to be going back to 4A. Nothing wrong with that; or it simply could have been anticiaption of the talent they thought was coming up and they might have a much better run in 4A than in 5A.

Yes I guess we talked with different people. The ones I duscussed it with were far more important than anyfan could have been. But then again I guess JoFlows new asskstant isnt close to me:rolleyes:
You take the advice from parents and keep taking mine from the horses mouth and we shall see who was right.

ScottS

08-18-2006, 07:35 AM

and 2nd in 5-5A.......:D

LOL

dragonsdaddy

08-18-2006, 07:39 AM

Yes I guess we talked with different people. The ones I duscussed it with were far more important than anyfan could have been. But then again I guess JoFlows new asskstant isnt close to me:rolleyes:
You take the advice from parents and keep taking mine from the horses mouth and we shall see who was right.
ff, go get some sleep. you are getting unnecessarily snappish. dr e didn't deserve your tartness,imo.

pack0808

08-18-2006, 09:18 AM

I dont remember hearing that from many. Guyer the new school affected more of DHS than it did Ryan. The areas Guyer draws from dont even come close to the areas that Ryan draws from. The majority of Ryans talent comes from Strickland middle school and not one kid from Strickland will be going to Guyer. I guess it is easy to blame the opening of a new school to a drop but you have to remember while in 5A, Ryan lost to a total of 3 5A schools. The only 5A school to have a lop sided score on Ryan was Carroll.

And I always felt that Carroll was the only true 5a power they played. Do not get me wrong DR was a very good 5a team (especially the 1st year) for the most part while here there is no question. Last year I thought they were just above average when they played 2 elite teams like SLC and HP and got absolutely destroyed and embarrassed. Then they lost to a mediocre FR team and a good but not great SGP team.

drgnbkr

08-18-2006, 09:28 AM

And I always felt that Carroll was the only true 5a power they played. Do not get me wrong DR was a very good 5a team (especially the 1st year) for the most part while here there is no question. Last year I thought they were just above average when they played 2 elite teams like SLC and HP and got absolutely destroyed and embarrassed. Then they lost to a mediocre FR team and a good but not great SGP team.

I don't know how this became a Denton Ryan thread or how us Carroll folks always end up having to defend them, but yes last year was the first down year DR has had in a long time. Other than that they were easily one of the top ten 5-A teams in the state. In 03 they beat top 5 rated Irving Mac in the playoffs and only lost to Carroll and no other 5-A team for quite a while. The rest of the state does'nt see it because they had the misfortune of having to get past Carroll each year (except for last season) as every team but one has had the past 4 years.

dragonsdaddy

08-18-2006, 10:57 AM

the fact that slc has been dr's wellington is not lost on lp fans. there is a lot more similarity between dr and lp than there is differences. the biggest overall discrepancy is concerning fan base.

drgnbkr

08-18-2006, 11:02 AM

the fact that slc has been dr's wellington is not lost on lp fans. there is a lot more similarity between dr and lp than there is differences. the biggest overall discrepancy is concerning fan base.

I agree with that, while Denton Ryan has great fans...there just are'nt very many of them in the stands. I think Lufkin rents fans from other towns and gives them all purple shirts!......:D

pack0808

08-18-2006, 12:15 PM

the fact that slc has been dr's wellington is not lost on lp fans. there is a lot more similarity between dr and lp than there is differences. the biggest overall discrepancy is concerning fan base.

And a BIG difference is the scores when Lufkin plays SLC compared to when DR plays SLC. ;)

That was in 04 drgn when Dr beat an almost always good regular season but never good playoff Irving Mac team.

Look, I will say it again that DR was a very good 5a team while here for 2 years. I just do not think they were as great as some had been saying. Maybe I just got a bad impression when I saw them get humiliated on TV twice by a team I have seen Lufkin take to the very last seconds 2 of the last 3 times they met. They just did not look like an elite team on tv. But if SLC fans say they are that good then they must be that good?

farmerfan

08-18-2006, 12:54 PM

ff, go get some sleep. you are getting unnecessarily snappish. dr e didn't deserve your tartness,imo.

point taken
my apologies do dr e.

ScottS

08-25-2006, 01:26 PM

Tomorrow at 10am!

DrEdward

08-25-2006, 04:54 PM

point taken
my apologies do dr e.

no problem ff.

DragonFan

08-25-2006, 09:32 PM

Highlights of the Scrimmage with Arlington Martin will be available via DFWgameoftheweek.com on Monday!

DrEdward

08-25-2006, 10:55 PM

Freshman start at 7:30am at the 9/10 campus on White's Chapel. Yes, I know it is hard to care a whole lot about football at 7:30 in the morning, but at least it will only be in the mid 80s then (hopefully). JV begins at 9:00 am at Dragon Stadium with the varsity following. All games are against Arlington Martin.