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Favpack
07-31-2006, 03:23 PM
First - I say Coach Fran will be in serious trouble if this team goes worse than 7-5.

A&M has an almost laughable pre-conference schedule -not that anyone in the B12 can crow that much. But, they should be 4-0 heading into conference with The Citadel, Louis-Lafayette and LaTech at home - and Army in SA. LaTech may be decent - but not at Kyle, and I guess Army might present some issues.

They then play Tech at Kyle -which is winnable, but let's say they lose that one, and they lose at Kansas. They should beat Missouri at home, OKState there and Baylor there - but let's say they lose one of those.

Then they may lose To Ok, Neb and Texas, the first two at home, and at DKR - but let's say they somehow beat Ok or Neb. at home.

That puts them at 8-4 on the high side - and into a decent bowl game. On the low -end they go 7-5 and make it to the SA bowl - big whoop.

On one hand - that's a solid rebuilding year; on the other hand - the 4-0 start really is a little elusive. I say it really doesn't mean a whole lot -and anything less than 8-4 with that schedule is a disappointment - big time - in the bigger scope.

Sorry, but top teams put at least one decent pre-conf. foe on their schedule -anyone.

jtk1519
07-31-2006, 05:06 PM
This schedule could have been a good thing for aggy, but Dollar Bill slipped up and it will cost him and the program for a while. For some strange reason, Dollar Bill gave Franochio a raise and contract extension I believe prior to last season.

Had Fran not been given that extension, Dollar Bill could have fired Fran after this past embarassing season and a new coach could have been hired this offseason. This schedule would have been great then since the new coach would have had a bunch of cupcakes to build the team's and new coaches' confidence.

Instead, aggy is stuck with Franochio and his terrible contract that they can't afford to dump. aggy can win 9 games this year with that weak schedule and still not be a good team. What's worse is that their 2007 schedule is brutal.

lonny23
07-31-2006, 05:48 PM
First - I say Coach Fran will be in serious trouble if this team goes worse than 7-5.

A&M has an almost laughable pre-conference schedule -not that anyone in the B12 can crow that much. But, they should be 4-0 heading into conference with The Citadel, Louis-Lafayette and LaTech at home - and Army in SA. LaTech may be decent - but not at Kyle, and I guess Army might present some issues.

They then play Tech at Kyle -which is winnable, but let's say they lose that one, and they lose at Kansas. They should beat Missouri at home, OKState there and Baylor there - but let's say they lose one of those.

Then they may lose To Ok, Neb and Texas, the first two at home, and at DKR - but let's say they somehow beat Ok or Neb. at home.

That puts them at 8-4 on the high side - and into a decent bowl game. On the low -end they go 7-5 and make it to the SA bowl - big whoop.

On one hand - that's a solid rebuilding year; on the other hand - the 4-0 start really is a little elusive. I say it really doesn't mean a whole lot -and anything less than 8-4 with that schedule is a disappointment - big time - in the bigger scope.

Sorry, but top teams put at least one decent pre-conf. foe on their schedule -anyone.
Citadel W
La-Laf W
Army W
La Tech W
T Tech L
at Kansas W
Missou W
at Ok St. W
at Baylor W
OU L
Nebraska W
at Texas L

I say 9-3 and 7-5 would be a joke on them.

Favpack
07-31-2006, 06:30 PM
A&M historically loses a game they should win, and occassionally they win a game they should lose. My bet is still on 8-4 - and I agree that 8-4 maybe even 9-3 means not too much - other than some much needed confidence in CS land. If they go 9-3, even 8-4 AND beat a worthy opponent in a bowl game - like maybe Michigan, Penn State, VaTech - etc. - then I call the year a success.

Reaganrattler07
07-31-2006, 08:22 PM
A&M historically loses a game they should win, and occassionally they win a game they should lose. My bet is still on 8-4 - and I agree that 8-4 maybe even 9-3 means not too much - other than some much needed confidence in CS land. If they go 9-3, even 8-4 AND beat a worthy opponent in a bowl game - like maybe Michigan, Penn State, VaTech - etc. - then I call the year a success.

You lost some credibility when you said Va Tech and Penn State. I'm a huge Aggie fan and a huge Hokie fan but lets be realistic....Va Tech is much much better than A&M.

Favpack
08-01-2006, 07:47 AM
You lost some credibility when you said Va Tech and Penn State. I'm a huge Aggie fan and a huge Hokie fan but lets be realistic....Va Tech is much much better than A&M.

A&M proved they are no match for VaTech - but I think the Hokies will be down a bit this year, as will PState -- if A&M goes 8-4 or 9-3 -- they get a good bowl game against a team like this. Michigan has under-achieved the last 1.5 years.

farmerfan
08-01-2006, 09:46 AM
A&M proved they are no match for VaTech - but I think the Hokies will be down a bit this year, as will PState -- if A&M goes 8-4 or 9-3 -- they get a good bowl game against a team like this. Michigan has under-achieved the last 1.5 years.

I would say minus the 97 season that has been the case under Lloyd Carr as well as Gary Moeller's tenure in Ann Arbor.

farmerfan
08-01-2006, 09:50 AM
Citadel W
La-Laf W
Army W
La Tech W
T Tech L
at Kansas W
Missou W
at Ok St. W
at Baylor W
OU L
Nebraska W
at Texas L

I say 9-3 and 7-5 would be a joke on them.

I say they lose to Kansas, Baylor and quite possinly Okie State with the last three all being losses. The Tech game is where I am lost. They play Tech very good in College Station, just about everygame I can remember with the exception of 2000 has been a close football game. I could see the ags winning that game but that wont be anyfun as their would be a huge meltdown all over aggieland . I could honestly see them going 5-7 or 6-6. I think Kansas is the team most are overlooking on their schedule and remember the last time Mizzou came to college station they defeated the ags in OT.

Sicemhorns09
08-01-2006, 11:29 AM
Citadel W
La-Laf W
Army W
La Tech W
T Tech L
at Kansas L
Missou W
at Ok St. L
at Baylor L
OU L
Nebraska L
at Texas L

I honestly see the Ags having a 7 loss season...I am not sure that Mcgee can handle the pressure, and ther D is just sub par for Big XII play. Having BU and Okie Lite on the road hurt the Ags chances...and the last month of play will be dismal...Fran will be gone after the Ags fail to make a bowl.

Favpack
08-01-2006, 11:43 AM
If they go 5-7 - and lose 6 of their last 7 Fran is long gone. I think you're being way over-critical, but maybe deservedly so. McGee proved he can play on a huge stage already - and the D will be improved over last year. I think the attitude all year long on this team will be pretty ticked off - they're in a corner and they're fighting for respect - that is good.

Reaganrattler07
08-01-2006, 11:58 AM
Citadel W
La-Laf W
Army W
La Tech W
T Tech L
at Kansas L
Missou W
at Ok St. L
at Baylor L
OU L
Nebraska L
at Texas L

I honestly see the Ags having a 7 loss season...I am not sure that Mcgee can handle the pressure, and ther D is just sub par for Big XII play. Having BU and Okie Lite on the road hurt the Ags chances...and the last month of play will be dismal...Fran will be gone after the Ags fail to make a bowl.

Uh, did you NOT watch the Texas game? That's probably the one of the biggest stages for a "rookie" quarterback to come in and play. And he didn't do too bad.

Sicemhorns09
08-01-2006, 02:25 PM
Uh, did you NOT watch the Texas game? That's probably the one of the biggest stages for a "rookie" quarterback to come in and play. And he didn't do too bad.
I realize that he had a great showing against UT...also, keep in mind that UT did not prepare for Mcgee during the entire week leading up to the game. Also, with all of the hype and pressure along with the expectations for him this season, it may just be too much to handle. I wish the Ags well, except against BU, however, I am just not sure that Fran is a good enough coach to lead the team to a 8-9 win season. Without being truly tested til conf play, it will be tough for them to gain momentum in the Big XII.

the_pack
08-01-2006, 03:39 PM
Citadel W
La-Laf W
Army W
La Tech W
T Tech W
at Kansas W
Missou W
at Ok St. W
at Baylor W
OU L
Nebraska W
at Texas L

I think A&M will surprise many people this year. They could definately even turn those L's from OU and tu to W's. Oklahoma doesn't play A&M well at Kyle and you never know about Texas. At the same time, Texas Tech could be a loss if they don't play right, and so could Kansas.

dragonsdaddy
08-01-2006, 04:43 PM
Citadel W
La-Laf W
Army W
La Tech W
T Tech W
at Kansas W
Missou W
at Ok St. W
at Baylor W
OU L
Nebraska W
at Texas L

I think A&M will surprise many people this year. They could definately even turn those L's from OU and tu to W's. Oklahoma doesn't play A&M well at Kyle and you never know about Texas. At the same time, Texas Tech could be a loss if they don't play right, and so could Kansas.man pack, you've been iv'ing the kool-aid. you have the best case scenario nailed. that ou loss will be heart-wrenching if you are right.

Favpack
08-01-2006, 05:02 PM
man pack, you've been iv'ing the kool-aid. you have the best case scenario nailed. that ou loss will be heart-wrenching if you are right.
I was thinking the same thing - that might vault A&M into the BCS - now that would be unheard of.

pack4life
08-01-2006, 05:02 PM
For whatever reason...

I don't see A&M hangin' with (texas) tech AT ALL this season.

farmerfan
08-01-2006, 06:10 PM
Uh, did you NOT watch the Texas game? That's probably the one of the biggest stages for a "rookie" quarterback to come in and play. And he didn't do too bad.

he impressed me with his toughness and guts however McGee did not throw the football well at all that day. I believe he was something like 6-20 and missed several wideopen receivers including two sure TD's. Texas had trouble stopping the option but they had trouble all game both offensively and defensivley and on special teams., they played as bad a game as they had played all year and McGee still didnt have what it took to beat them. If McGee plays this whole year like he did against Texas he could have some major injuries and if he goes down that spells bad news for the ags.

Reaganrattler07
08-01-2006, 06:26 PM
he impressed me with his toughness and guts however McGee did not throw the football well at all that day. I believe he was something like 6-20 and missed several wideopen receivers including two sure TD's. Texas had trouble stopping the option but they had trouble all game both offensively and defensivley and on special teams., they played as bad a game as they had played all year and McGee still didnt have what it took to beat them. If McGee plays this whole year like he did against Texas he could have some major injuries and if he goes down that spells bad news for the ags.

He has an arm, from what I saw the recievers were just half-assing their routes....

Reaganrattler07
08-01-2006, 06:27 PM
I realize that he had a great showing against UT...also, keep in mind that UT did not prepare for Mcgee during the entire week leading up to the game. Also, with all of the hype and pressure along with the expectations for him this season, it may just be too much to handle. I wish the Ags well, except against BU, however, I am just not sure that Fran is a good enough coach to lead the team to a 8-9 win season. Without being truly tested til conf play, it will be tough for them to gain momentum in the Big XII.

And you know this how? Everyone knew Reggie was out and McGee played a good half against OU.

farmerfan
08-01-2006, 06:32 PM
He has an arm, from what I saw the recievers were just half-assing their routes....

He does have a good arm, saw him play the state championship game at TX Stadium against Gainesville and watching pre-game was better than the game with both Shipley and McGee playing catch.
Recievers may not have been going very hard on their routes hopefully that will change, if not it will be another long year in the brazos valley.

Reaganrattler07
08-01-2006, 06:39 PM
He does have a good arm, saw him play the state championship game at TX Stadium against Gainesville and watching pre-game was better than the game with both Shipley and McGee playing catch.
Recievers may not have been going very hard on their routes hopefully that will change, if not it will be another long year in the brazos valley.

They better be....and I don't see anywhere where we should worry that they won't.

farmerfan
08-01-2006, 06:53 PM
They better be....and I don't see anywhere where we should worry that they won't.

the only thing that would scare me is the history of this team under fran. it seems totally different than under RC. At least under RC he had a sense of pride instilled in his boys to where they would play hard no matter what. Under Fran I cant say that is true. My best friend graduated in 04 from A&M never jumped on the franwagon and still has not bought season tickets, says he wont till they get rid of him. I cant say I blame him.

the_pack
08-01-2006, 08:20 PM
man pack, you've been iv'ing the kool-aid. you have the best case scenario nailed. that ou loss will be heart-wrenching if you are right.
Being an Aggie, I guess it's kind of hard to imagine the worst case scenario for my team. I really cannot honestly seeing them losing more than 3 games.

Reaganrattler07
08-01-2006, 09:22 PM
Being an Aggie, I guess it's kind of hard to imagine the worst case scenario for my team. I really cannot honestly seeing them losing more than 3 games.

They'll upset 1 or 2 teams as well as have a suprising season.

lonny23
08-01-2006, 10:51 PM
I say they lose to Kansas, Baylor and quite possinly Okie State with the last three all being losses. The Tech game is where I am lost. They play Tech very good in College Station, just about everygame I can remember with the exception of 2000 has been a close football game. I could see the ags winning that game but that wont be anyfun as their would be a huge meltdown all over aggieland . I could honestly see them going 5-7 or 6-6. I think Kansas is the team most are overlooking on their schedule and remember the last time Mizzou came to college station they defeated the ags in OT.
They're not going to beat Tech this year. If you don't see me posting after Sep 30th, go look for me in Bryan-College Station. I'll be in the middle of the student side for that game. I'm on row 4 behind the Tech bench and a couple sections over from the band. That should be fun!:p

Reaganrattler07
08-01-2006, 10:54 PM
They're not going to beat Tech this year. If you don't see me posting after Sep 30th, go look for me in Bryan-College Station. I'll be in the middle of the student side for that game. I'm on row 4 behind the Tech bench and a couple sections over from the band. That should be fun!:p

Lonny, they're not going to do anything to you other than heckle you a little bit. Maybe not even that. When I went to the Clemson game 2 years ago it was a very good atmosphere for Clemens. And we beat them like 35-7....Clemens fans were telling us how good hosts we were...

lonny23
08-01-2006, 10:55 PM
For whatever reason...

I don't see A&M hangin' with (texas) tech AT ALL this season.
Maybe I'll break out some pirate attire for the A&M game. Who better to make fun of the corps than somebody who IS in the military?:p :D

lonny23
08-01-2006, 10:57 PM
Being an Aggie, I guess it's kind of hard to imagine the worst case scenario for my team. I really cannot honestly seeing them losing more than 3 games.
I gave them 3. And Tech is one of the 3!:D

lonny23
08-01-2006, 11:00 PM
Lonny, they're not going to do anything to you other than heckle you a little bit. Maybe not even that. When I went to the Clemson game 2 years ago it was a very good atmosphere for Clemens. And we beat them like 35-7....Clemens fans were telling us how good hosts we were...
That's cool. I think trash-talking and joking are fun, but you have to keep your cool with the enemy. Hey, I even had a decent time with Spurs fans in Dallas and SA this year. Actually, it's never been bad at any of the games I've been to.

farmerfan
08-02-2006, 09:42 AM
They're not going to beat Tech this year. If you don't see me posting after Sep 30th, go look for me in Bryan-College Station. I'll be in the middle of the student side for that game. I'm on row 4 behind the Tech bench and a couple sections over from the band. That should be fun!:p

College Station is a difficult place for both OU and Tech. Since Leach has taken over I believe he is 1-2 in College Station with one of the losses coming in OT as well as his only win. A game A&M blew a huge lead in. A&M destroyed Kingsbury in 2000. History tells us that the game in College Station will be a tossup and I could honestly see A&M winning that game. If it were in Lubbock it would be a different story.

Slotback
08-02-2006, 12:49 PM
On the plus side of A&M's schedule is the fact that the non-conference is light. (For those of you not in the know, 2006 was supposed to have Florida State, but the Seminoles requested and were granted the release from their contract with A&M after the ACC expanded.) And all of those games are in Texas.

As to the conference schedule, A&M catches Texas Tech in September which might just be very important. When the Raider are rolling, they are very, very good.

The downside is that A&M finishes with Oklahoma, Nebraska and Texas. That is a scary proposition for any team. Let alone one that is trying to rebuild.

As to critics of McGee, at the end of last season, A&M's receiving corps was almost exclusively reserves-due to injuries. Little wonder that they weren't on the same page.

On the plus side for McGee is that the O-Line returns almost completely intact. A&M was 9th Nationally in rushing last season. That bodes well for the offense.

A&M with the ball, look for 50 runs and 20 passes a game.
A&M on Defense? Pray that the secondary massively improves.

biki1121
08-02-2006, 10:44 PM
Sheesh, I thought for sure most of you non-aggies would want them to go 9-3 or better. That would mean some idiot in the front office would probably give the man another extension and big raise thus keeping the fool firmly in place.

If they go 7-5 or worse, Fran is looking for another "pine box house" and A&M will put some serious thought into a real coach. Funny thing is I think Gene would jump at the chance to head east on 290 for a HC job going against Mack. I might be wrong but I really do think Gene would give Mack some fits for 2 million a year.