I now live in San Antonio

[jtk1519]

I have nothing more to say.

[lonny23]

I have nothing more to say.
I send my condolences!:p

What part of town do you live in? The bigger question is what team's games will you be going to or will you just rotate around the state?

[Red Raiders]

I send my condolences!:p

What part of town do you live in? The bigger question is what team's games will you be going to or will you just rotate around the state?

I am guessing he lives in South-West Ghetto Town? lol jk. :)

[Favpack]

Congrats jtk -- I guess - most folks eventually leave Abilene for various reasons - I did - and look what happened to me - not much.

[lonny23]

Congrats jtk -- I guess - most folks eventually leave Abilene for various reasons - I did - and look what happened to me - not much.
I really like Abilene though. I'd rather live there than San Antonio. Yes, I know I'm in the minority on that, but it's my vote.

[RedRage00]

You lived in Converse Lonny! I wouldn't wanna live there either LOL

I'd rather be in SA than Abilene or WF :D

[ktCarl]

You lived in Converse Lonny! I wouldn't wanna live there either LOL

I'd rather be in SA than Abilene or WF :D


At least you're still in Texas.

[RedRage00]

At least you're still in Texas.

Yeah, I love TEXAS!

I don't think I can ever leave!

Oh, and it doesn't matter WHERE you live. As long as you surround yourself with great friends you'll have a blast where ever you are. I was raised in Victoria and it's a small city, but I had a blast with all my friends there. I have some great memories. And I'm having a blast here in SA...because I have some great friends! :D

[Reaganrattler07]

You lived in Converse Lonny! I wouldn't wanna live there either LOL

I'd rather be in SA than Abilene or WF :D

Oh no but Converse has the awesome Rockets! That makes living there so much more bearable! And lets not forget they have NO crime at all!!!!

[LoneRocket]

Oh no but Converse has the awesome Rockets! That makes living there so much more bearable! And lets not forget they have NO crime at all!!!!
There is no crime where you live?:rolleyes:

[Rerun]

There is no crime where you live?:rolleyes:
Stone Oak & Sonterra have less crime than Converse.

[LoneRocket]

Stone Oak & Sonterra have less crime than Converse.
There seems to be a lot of crime reports in the Stone Oak & Sonterra area of town. On the Converse city web site they claim to have the lowest crime rate in the metro San Antonio area.

[lonny23]

There seems to be a lot of crime reports in the Stone Oak & Sonterra area of town. On the Converse city web site they claim to have the lowest crime rate in the metro San Antonio area.
I'm going to post some crime stats and we'll all see that there is a higher crime rate in the other suburbs and San Antonio. All I know is I saw ONE police car on my street in 3 1/2 years that my family didn't call for. It was because a neighbor got into a fight with his wife and hit her in some way. They had him stay in a dorm room on base for a few days before he went back home.

[lonny23]

OK,

I'll give you the overall crime indexes for the towns in the last year they tracked and you can see the specifics below. There are other places around the state with higher crime indexes, but I wanted to list the SA-area cities:

Kirby 153.8 (329.7 is the national average)
Schertz 167.0
Universal City 174.8
Converse 193.7
Boerne 261.9
Alamo Heights 267.2
New Braunfels 290.5
Live Oak 294.6
San Marcos 309.5
Seguin 474.2
San Antonio 510.1
Leon Valley 524.8
Victoria 560.0

Crime in Converse by Year:

1999 2000 2001 2002 2003

Murders 0 0 0 0 0
per 100,000 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

Rapes 6 13 13 11 10
per 100,000 52.1 113.0 113.0 95.6 86.9

Robberies 2 2 7 2 6
per 100,000 17.4 17.4 60.8 17.4 52.1

Assaults 2 11 6 7 7
per 100,000 17.4 95.6 52.1 60.8 60.8

Burglaries 58 42 52 69 67
per 100,000 504.0 365.0 451.9 599.6 582.2

Larceny counts 112 139 172 191 214
per 100,000 973.2 1207.9 1494.6 1659.7 1859.6

Auto thefts 18 27 25 23 23
per 100,000 156.4 234.6 217.2 199.9 199.9

City-data.com crime index (higher means more crime, U.S. average = 329.7) 116.3 162.1 182.7 180.0 193.7

Crime in Schertz by Year:

2000 2001 2002

Murders 0 0 0
per 100,000 0.0 0.0 0.0

Rapes 10 8 5
per 100,000 53.5 42.8 26.7

Robberies 3 6 8
per 100,000 16.0 32.1 42.8

Assaults 26 19 25
per 100,000 139.1 101.6 133.7

Burglaries 56 55 75
per 100,000 299.6 294.2 401.2

Larceny counts 357 343 390
per 100,000 1909.7 1834.8 2086.2

Auto thefts 16 19 12
per 100,000 85.6 101.6 64.2

City-data.com crime index (higher means more crime, U.S. average = 329.7) 158.2 149.2 167.0

Crime in Alamo Heights by Year:

2001 2002 2003

Murders 0 0 0
per 100,000 0.0 0.0 0.0

Rapes 1 0 3
per 100,000 13.7 0.0 41.0

Robberies 2 10 5
per 100,000 27.3 136.6 68.3

Assaults 1 1 3
per 100,000 13.7 13.7 41.0

Burglaries 38 58 62
per 100,000 519.2 792.5 847.1

Larceny counts 304 240 276
per 100,000 4153.6 3279.1 3771.0

Auto thefts 8 9 11
per 100,000 109.3 123.0 150.3

City-data.com crime index (higher means more crime, U.S. average = 329.7) 227.6 240.2 267.2

Crime in Boerne by Year:

2001 2002 2003

Murders 0 0 0
per 100,000 0.0 0.0 0.0

Rapes 2 4 2
per 100,000 32.4 64.7 32.4

Robberies 0 3 5
per 100,000 0.0 48.6 80.9

Assaults 7 4 3
per 100,000 113.3 64.7 48.6

Burglaries 31 33 40
per 100,000 501.8 534.2 647.5

Larceny counts 152 196 234
per 100,000 2460.3 3172.5 3787.6

Auto thefts 2 5 14
per 100,000 32.4 80.9 226.6

City-data.com crime index (higher means more crime, U.S. average = 329.7) 171.7 224.2 261.9

Crime in Kirby by Year:

2001 2002 2003

Murders 0 0 0
per 100,000 0.0 0.0 0.0

Rapes 0 1 1
per 100,000 0.0 11.5 11.5

Robberies 5 5 6
per 100,000 57.7 57.7 69.2

Assaults 23 18 14
per 100,000 265.2 207.5 161.4

Burglaries 74 41 38
per 100,000 853.2 472.7 438.1

Larceny counts 171 148 116
per 100,000 1971.6 1706.4 1337.5

Auto thefts 14 21 13
per 100,000 161.4 242.1 149.9

City-data.com crime index (higher means more crime, U.S. average = 329.7) 221.8 184.1 153.8

Crime in Leon Valley by Year:

2001 2002 2003

Murders 0 0 1
per 100,000 0.0 0.0 10.8

Rapes 6 1 3
per 100,000 64.9 10.8 32.5

Robberies 15 13 24
per 100,000 162.4 140.7 259.8

Assaults 10 18 19
per 100,000 108.2 194.8 205.6

Burglaries 65 84 71
per 100,000 703.5 909.2 768.5

Larceny counts 402 484 656
per 100,000 4351.1 5238.7 7100.3

Auto thefts 34 36 51
per 100,000 368.0 389.7 552.0

City-data.com crime index (higher means more crime, U.S. average = 329.7) 349.1 389.9 524.8

Crime in Live Oak by Year:

2001 2002 2003

Murders 0 1 0
per 100,000 0.0 10.9 0.0

Rapes 5 4 8
per 100,000 54.6 43.7 87.4

Robberies 5 7 2
per 100,000 54.6 76.5 21.8

Assaults 20 15 10
per 100,000 218.4 163.8 109.2

Burglaries 39 35 59
per 100,000 426.0 382.3 644.4

Larceny counts 358 369 364
per 100,000 3910.0 4030.1 3975.5

Auto thefts 21 31 31
per 100,000 229.4 338.6 338.6

City-data.com crime index (higher means more crime, U.S. average = 329.7) 286.5 299.1 294.6

Crime in New Braunfels by Year:

1999 2000 2001 2002

Murders 1 0 0 1
per 100,000 2.7 0.0 0.0 2.7

Rapes 16 18 12 18
per 100,000 43.8 49.3 32.9 49.3

Robberies 24 28 27 24
per 100,000 65.8 76.7 74.0 65.8

Assaults 31 148 314 249
per 100,000 84.9 405.5 860.4 682.3

Burglaries 206 204 292 327
per 100,000 564.5 559.0 800.1 896.0

Larceny counts 2,014 2,193 1,931 2,001
per 100,000 5518.7 6009.2 5291.3 5483.1

Auto thefts 87 105 82 106
per 100,000 238.4 287.7 224.7 290.5

City-data.com crime index (higher means more crime, U.S. average = 329.7) 336.3 426.4 493.1 483.9

Crime in San Antonio by Year:

1999 2000 2001 2002 2003

Murders 96 85 100 100 85
per 100,000 8.4 7.4 8.7 8.7 7.4

Rapes 599 456 492 464 537
per 100,000 52.3 39.8 43.0 40.5 46.9

Robberies 1,674 1,699 2,146 2,114 2,060
per 100,000 146.2 148.4 187.5 184.7 180.0

Assaults 3,971 5,668 6,808 7,091 4,570
per 100,000 346.9 495.2 594.8 619.5 399.3

Burglaries 10,944 11,604 14,018 13,368 14,619
per 100,000 956.1 1013.8 1224.7 1167.9 1277.2

Larceny counts 53,898 60,952 66,694 65,251 62,179
per 100,000 4708.7 5325.0 5826.6 5700.5 5432.2

Auto thefts 5,595 5,868 6,240 5,744 6,202
per 100,000 488.8 512.6 545.1 501.8 541.8

City-data.com crime index (higher means more crime, U.S. average = 329.7) 437.0 491.9 563.5 554.2 510.1

Crime in San Marcos (2001):

0 murders (0.0 per 100,000)
39 rapes (109.8 per 100,000)
21 robberies (59.1 per 100,000)
65 assaults (183.0 per 100,000)
241 burglaries (678.5 per 100,000)
1,040 larceny counts (2927.8 per 100,000)
60 auto thefts (168.9 per 100,000)
City-data.com crime index = 282.6 (higher means more crime, US average = 330.8)


Crime in San Marcos (2002):

0 murders (0.0 per 100,000)
34 rapes (93.7 per 100,000)
34 robberies (93.7 per 100,000)
78 assaults (215.0 per 100,000)
234 burglaries (645.0 per 100,000)
1,133 larceny counts (3123.0 per 100,000)
80 auto thefts (220.5 per 100,000)
City-data.com crime index = 309.5 (higher means more crime, US average = 328.4)

Crime in Seguin by Year:

1999 2001 2002 2003

Murders 3 1 3 2
per 100,000 13.6 4.5 13.6 9.1

Rapes 5 5 7 16
per 100,000 22.7 22.7 31.8 72.7

Robberies 20 25 19 12
per 100,000 90.9 113.6 86.3 54.5

Assaults 46 79 73 71
per 100,000 209.0 358.9 331.7 322.6

Burglaries 250 243 281 323
per 100,000 1135.8 1104.0 1276.6 1467.4

Larceny counts 1,211 1,345 1,262 1,311
per 100,000 5501.8 6110.6 5733.5 5956.1

Auto thefts 37 29 42 39
per 100,000 168.1 131.8 190.8 177.2

City-data.com crime index (higher means more crime, U.S. average = 329.7) 404.8 451.7 452.5 474.2

Crime in Universal City by Year:

1999 2001 2002 2003

Murders 0 2 1 0
per 100,000 0.0 13.5 6.7 0.0

Rapes 5 5 5 0
per 100,000 33.7 33.7 33.7 0.0

Robberies 2 7 7 13
per 100,000 13.5 47.1 47.1 87.5

Assaults 45 76 34 20
per 100,000 303.1 511.8 229.0 134.7

Burglaries 79 112 94 55
per 100,000 532.0 754.3 633.0 370.4

Larceny counts 311 292 299 305
per 100,000 2094.4 1966.5 2013.6 2054.0

Auto thefts 24 27 19 25
per 100,000 161.6 181.8 128.0 168.4

City-data.com crime index (higher means more crime, U.S. average = 329.7) 212.1 289.4 215.2 174.8

Crime in Victoria by Year:

1999 2000 2001 2002 2003

Murders 2 3 2 9 8
per 100,000 3.3 5.0 3.3 14.9 13.2

Rapes 25 25 21 44 46
per 100,000 41.3 41.3 34.7 72.6 75.9

Robberies 61 64 70 108 111
per 100,000 100.7 105.6 115.5 178.2 183.2

Assaults 354 350 347 317 361
per 100,000 584.1 577.5 572.6 523.1 595.7

Burglaries 650 824 719 645 850
per 100,000 1072.6 1359.7 1186.4 1064.3 1402.6

Larceny counts 2,178 2,292 2,434 2,602 3,290
per 100,000 3593.9 3782.0 4016.3 4293.5 5428.8

Auto thefts 105 145 155 165 205
per 100,000 173.3 239.3 255.8 272.3 338.3

City-data.com crime index (higher means more crime, U.S. average = 329.7) 399.5 434.2 430.5 470.0 560.0

[lonny23]

Oh no but Converse has the awesome Rockets! That makes living there so much more bearable! And lets not forget they have NO crime at all!!!!
I liked my neighbors in Converse. I'm not so sure I'd like my neighbors if I lived where you do. It's your right to stick your nose up at Converse, but just remember having money doesn't usually make people hate somebody. It's usually the attitude of the person with the money that makes them hate you.

[Dawg Fan]

I lived in San Antonio for about 9 months and loved it. I would move back there in a heartbeat:D :cool:

[Reaganrattler07]

There seems to be a lot of crime reports in the Stone Oak & Sonterra area of town. On the Converse city web site they claim to have the lowest crime rate in the metro San Antonio area.

And doesn't New York have a lower crime rate than San Antonio? Some people don't report crimes.

[Reaganrattler07]

I liked my neighbors in Converse. I'm not so sure I'd like my neighbors if I lived where you do. It's your right to stick your nose up at Converse, but just remember having money doesn't usually make people hate somebody. It's usually the attitude of the person with the money that makes them hate you.

Obviously you're gonna say that. You like it in Converse. I like it in my area. I'll tell you what. Leave something valuable in your front yard and I'll do the same here....we'll see whos gets stolen first. Oh, wait, you don't live there. And I've experienced extreme safety in my neighborhood. I'm not gonna list them for obvious reasons. And the only crime we have is people who come into the area....not the people who live here of course.

[LoneRocket]

And doesn't New York have a lower crime rate than San Antonio? Some people don't report crimes.
So you lived and hung out in Converse where you witnessed crime? The numbers show there is a good amount of crime in the Stone Oak & Sonterra.

[LoneRocket]

Obviously you're gonna say that. You like it in Converse. I like it in my area. I'll tell you what. Leave something valuable in your front yard and I'll do the same here....we'll see whos gets stolen first. Oh, wait, you don't live there. And I've experienced extreme safety in my neighborhood. I'm not gonna list them for obvious reasons. And the only crime we have is people who come into the area....not the people who live here of course.
Like the Liquor store burglaries committed by students who live in your area? Crime is everywhere.

[Reaganrattler07]

So you lived and hung out in Converse where you witnessed crime? The numbers show there is a good amount of crime in the Stone Oak & Sonterra.

I sorta explained why the numbers could be wrong. I have no problem driving any of our cars around the Stone Oak-Sonterra area....I do have a problem driving them around Converse, thats why I don't bring certain cars there.

Like the Liquor store burglaries committed by students who live in your area? Crime is everywhere.

Yeah, I did forget about that one. But if I remember correctly, it wasn't in the Stone Oak area. And neither of us know the full details of their motives.

Now before this degenerates into a "mine is better than yours" thread. Lets just agree that we both like our respective areas.

[lonny23]

And doesn't New York have a lower crime rate than San Antonio? Some people don't report crimes.
That's true.

Crimes get reported in Converse, but the cops don't always do anything about it. I will say the Converse Police Department is terrible.

[lonny23]

Obviously you're gonna say that. You like it in Converse. I like it in my area. I'll tell you what. Leave something valuable in your front yard and I'll do the same here....we'll see whos gets stolen first. Oh, wait, you don't live there. And I've experienced extreme safety in my neighborhood. I'm not gonna list them for obvious reasons. And the only crime we have is people who come into the area....not the people who live here of course.
That's for 2 reasons:

1. The people who live there don't have as much of a financial crisis to make them desperate enough to blatantly steal from someplace else.

2. The people who live there can steal from work or be dishonest in their day to day dealings to get ahead.

White-collar criminals are just smarter and have more means than the regular joes. The end result is both want money.

I guarantee you there are a fair number of criminals in your neighborhood. They just don't get brought up on charges or ever get tossed in jail.

[lonny23]

I sorta explained why the numbers could be wrong. I have no problem driving any of our cars around the Stone Oak-Sonterra area....I do have a problem driving them around Converse, thats why I don't bring certain cars there.



Yeah, I did forget about that one. But if I remember correctly, it wasn't in the Stone Oak area. And neither of us know the full details of their motives.

Now before this degenerates into a "mine is better than yours" thread. Lets just agree that we both like our respective areas.
I would bet your vehicle problems in Converse stem almost completely from the local population reacting angrily to the perceived, and many times real, sentiments of your fanbase to look down upon the Judson area. Regardless of who you are as person, you have to realize you represent Reagan, who is thought to be an uppity group that thinks they're better than Judson because they have more money and nicer houses. The Clemens people say the same things as do SV and it would be no different if Southlake Carroll was playing Dallas Carter.

I have no problem with success and money and like to have nice things myself, but I'll be honest with you and tell you that I root against richer schools sometimes just because of how the kids and families act.

[LoneRocket]

I sorta explained why the numbers could be wrong. I have no problem driving any of our cars around the Stone Oak-Sonterra area....I do have a problem driving them around Converse, thats why I don't bring certain cars there.

Again what areas in Converse do you drive in? Why do you have a problem? I know many people who drive all types of vehicles in Converse and they have no problems. Have you even hung out in Converse?

[LoneRocket]

Yeah, I did forget about that one. But if I remember correctly, it wasn't in the Stone Oak area. And neither of us know the full details of their motives.
But the robberies were committed by students (allegedly) from your area even though they did it out of your area. I believe you said at one time that you know people (allegedly) who sale and use illegal drugs in your area, last time I checked that is a crime. Again crime happens everywhere.

[lonny23]

But the robberies were committed by students (allegedly) in your area even though they did it out of your area. I believe you said at one time that you know people (allegedly) who sale and use illegal drugs in your area, last time I checked that is a crime. Again crime happens everywhere.
You can bet there are people who illegally use drugs in his area. Again, money brings better cover to do drugs and the cops don't go after the rich users as much as the poor users. There is no doubt violent crime is reduced in richer parts of town, but one fact many people are forgetting is Randolph AFB is ther largest employer on the northeast side of SA and the VAST majority of employees and families affiliated with the base are upstanding citizens and Converse has a good share of those employees.

[CKE]

I'm going to post some crime stats and we'll all see that there is a higher crime rate in the other suburbs and San Antonio. All I know is I saw ONE police car on my street in 3 1/2 years that my family didn't call for. It was because a neighbor got into a fight with his wife and hit her in some way. They had him stay in a dorm room on base for a few days before he went back home.

Noooooow i remember why this website got old and I dont post as much any more thanks lonny

[implacable44]

Oh no but Converse has the awesome Rockets! That makes living there so much more bearable! And lets not forget they have NO crime at all!!!!

only when those SV boys come into town is there any crime

[lonny23]

only when those SV boys come into town is there any crime
No!

We robbed Reagan of a playoff berth last year!:p

[Slim-Rob]

I have nothing more to say.

I'm sorry to hear that

[lonny23]

I'm sorry to hear that
The rest of the board isn't!:p

[jtk1519]

I'm sorry to hear that

I didn't mean that in a negative way. I just didn't have anything further to add on the subject at the time.

I have completed my first week here and I have really enjoyed it. I live downtown in a very nice building in a very nice and quiet corner of the area. I'm in walking distance of a lot of cool stuff and the drive anywhere else is relatively short and easy. My internet was hooked up yesterday which brought me great joy while at the same time exposing just how addicted I am to this thing.

I was warned of some occasional bad traffic only to find that the worst traffic I have seen here is a walk in the park compared to crap I have been stuck in on 121, 360 and loop 12 in the Metroplex or anything you'll see at any time of the day on 35 in Austin. I spent all last week commuting from downtown up I-10 to Wurzbach during the heart of rush hour and it never took me more than 15 minutes either way. The construction on I-10 on either side of 410 is a pain and can be somewhat nerve-wrecking the first time you try and drive 55 mph through those narrow lanes with a vehicle as big as mine, but I have quickly grown used to it.

I have yet to have the chance to go out and explore the city, but I really like and am quite comfortable with the paths I have traversed so far. The people are nice and parts of the city are quite beautiful. I suppose I'll be able to get a better feel and understanding for things as the weeks progress.

The heat has been a drawback, but I was not alone. My first day here the bank down the street had a temp of 101 posted. That same day I called a friend in New York who told me the temp at his place was 104 so I can't really complain. His view is better, but my rent is more than $1500 a month less than his, so I win.

Overall, me experience has been nothing but positive so far and I see nothing on the horizon that would indicate a change.

[TexasRed6x]

No!

We robbed Reagan of a playoff berth last year!:p
Yes we did. :D

[dragons08]

Yes we did. :D
dont you go to wagner or something..

[lonny23]

dont you go to wagner or something..
He goes to New Braunfels Canyon, but his dad is a big Judson guy.

[RedRage00]

I didn't mean that in a negative way. I just didn't have anything further to add on the subject at the time.

I have completed my first week here and I have really enjoyed it. I live downtown in a very nice building in a very nice and quiet corner of the area. I'm in walking distance of a lot of cool stuff and the drive anywhere else is relatively short and easy. My internet was hooked up yesterday which brought me great joy while at the same time exposing just how addicted I am to this thing.

I was warned of some occasional bad traffic only to find that the worst traffic I have seen here is a walk in the park compared to crap I have been stuck in on 121, 360 and loop 12 in the Metroplex or anything you'll see at any time of the day on 35 in Austin. I spent all last week commuting from downtown up I-10 to Wurzbach during the heart of rush hour and it never took me more than 15 minutes either way. The construction on I-10 on either side of 410 is a pain and can be somewhat nerve-wrecking the first time you try and drive 55 mph through those narrow lanes with a vehicle as big as mine, but I have quickly grown used to it.

I have yet to have the chance to go out and explore the city, but I really like and am quite comfortable with the paths I have traversed so far. The people are nice and parts of the city are quite beautiful. I suppose I'll be able to get a better feel and understanding for things as the weeks progress.

The heat has been a drawback, but I was not alone. My first day here the bank down the street had a temp of 101 posted. That same day I called a friend in New York who told me the temp at his place was 104 so I can't really complain. His view is better, but my rent is more than $1500 a month less than his, so I win.

Overall, me experience has been nothing but positive so far and I see nothing on the horizon that would indicate a change.

SA is a fun city to live in. Don't listen to Lonny. He lived in Converse. That explains why he hates this area so much LOL

It sounds like you are in a nice area. Find some friends to hang out with and you'll be fine.

RR

[lonny23]

SA is a fun city to live in. Don't listen to Lonny. He lived in Converse. That explains why he hates this area so much LOL

It sounds like you are in a nice area. Find some friends to hang out with and you'll be fine.

RR
I legitimately hate the area because of stuff I saw all over the area:

I hate the roads, which are poorly engineered.

I despise the media, which is atrocious.

I dislike most of the Spurs fans.

I hate how the city cheaps out on everything.

I like the cost of living and the weather is fine. I have no problem with the houses.

The biggest thing for me is that area is just not for me. It shouldn't be that big of a deal because there are other places in Texas I hate more than SA.

[TexasRed6x]

I legitimately hate the area because of stuff I saw all over the area:

I hate the roads, which are poorly engineered.

I despise the media, which is atrocious.

I dislike most of the Spurs fans.
I hate how the city cheaps out on everything.

I like the cost of living and the weather is fine. I have no problem with the houses.

The biggest thing for me is that area is just not for me. It shouldn't be that big of a deal because there are other places in Texas I hate more than SA.
Yeah you may hate some of them but there are some that you like. :D

[Reaganrattler07]

I would bet your vehicle problems in Converse stem almost completely from the local population reacting angrily to the perceived, and many times real, sentiments of your fanbase to look down upon the Judson area. Regardless of who you are as person, you have to realize you represent Reagan, who is thought to be an uppity group that thinks they're better than Judson because they have more money and nicer houses. The Clemens people say the same things as do SV and it would be no different if Southlake Carroll was playing Dallas Carter.

I have no problem with success and money and like to have nice things myself, but I'll be honest with you and tell you that I root against richer schools sometimes just because of how the kids and families act.

It is your assumption and probably theirs that we look down on them. Unless you have hard facts and evidence....I'll be convinced otherwise.

And why is it that if someone has money they're all bad and people try to ostrasize(sp) them?

[Reaganrattler07]

But the robberies were committed by students (allegedly) from your area even though they did it out of your area. I believe you said at one time that you know people (allegedly) who sale and use illegal drugs in your area, last time I checked that is a crime. Again crime happens everywhere.

Cimre does happen everywhere, yes. But it happens more in other places.

Yes, those students were from Reagan. I don't know why they did it but I'm glad they are/were punished. I haven't kept up with the story since it happened. Drugs are a problem everywhere....and from what I hear, Judson has their fair share of it.

[Reaganrattler07]

Yes we did. :D

Way to root for you school.....

[Reaganrattler07]

SA is a fun city to live in. Don't listen to Lonny. He lived in Converse. That explains why he hates this area so much LOL

It sounds like you are in a nice area. Find some friends to hang out with and you'll be fine.

RR

Oh no but Converse is the most wonderful, awesomest, coolest place EVER.....or so Lonny says.

[Reaganrattler07]

No!

We robbed Reagan of a playoff berth last year!:p

Robbed wouldn't be a correct term. You all beat us....course I'm sure homes all over Converse will remember this like the US rising up against Japan and Germany as it was some great tale to be told over generations.

[dragons08]

Yeah you may hate some of them but there are some that you like. :D
so thats what "i dislike most spurs fans" means :rolleyes:

learn a new thing everyday

[lonny23]

It is your assumption and probably theirs that we look down on them. Unless you have hard facts and evidence....I'll be convinced otherwise.

And why is it that if someone has money they're all bad and people try to ostrasize(sp) them?
My personal opinion is that it is a mixture. I do think it's a legitimate feeling from some of the people who have money. Some people carry that feeling at all times, but I bet many more carry that feeling and don't realize it comes out at times. It really is pretty much a natural feeling. Humans look at situations and compare themselves to others and feel better based upon perceived superiorites. That can be houses, cars, jobs, looks, money, and intelligence. All of us have a tendency to look down upon others.

Some people that don't have money feel inferior because of it. Jealousy plays a large part of the poor hating the rich. People in government and running for government positions have pitted classes against each other for years to exploit them and get rich and obtain their votes. The main thing that makes the people mad is if they feel like somebody is flaunting their possessions by trying to make people take notice. On the other hand, it's just natural that you get more looks when you drive a better vehicle.

[LoneRocket]

Robbed wouldn't be a correct term. You all beat us....course I'm sure homes all over Converse will remember this like the US rising up against Japan and Germany as it was some great tale to be told over generations.
No, just move on to the next game.

[LoneRocket]

Cimre does happen everywhere, yes. But it happens more in other places.

Yes, those students were from Reagan. I don't know why they did it but I'm glad they are/were punished. I haven't kept up with the story since it happened. Drugs are a problem everywhere....and from what I hear, Judson has their fair share of it.
Yes crime is everywhere and crime is not recorded as much in some areas as others. Drug dealing and using is probably going on in all parts of the city and I am sure your area might have its fair share also (allegedly).

[lonny23]

Oh no but Converse is the most wonderful, awesomest, coolest place EVER.....or so Lonny says.
Converse isn't for everybody, but if you work on the northeast side of SA and want a moderately-priced home, you're in luck. I will attest first-hand that the town is not nearly as bad as what the property values make it look like. My last house in Converse was 800 SF bigger than my current house, but cost the same amount. There are plenty of houses in Converse that I had no interest in living in because I thought they were too crappy, but I always found one's that I did like. Converse has more decent houses than bad houses, though. I would've wanted to live in Converse for the affordable housing even if I didn't like Judson.

I'd like to know you guys housing situations. I know some live with their parents because they're still in school, but I bet a fair number of you live in apartments. Don't think for a minute that you guys are better off living in an apartment than I was living in a house in a town that you don't like. I'll be the first to tell you that I hate apartments, but I hate crappy houses, too. Crappy, wood houses brings more crime and worse neighbors and I don't want that for me or my kids. Basic economics determine where you live most of the time. I had a certain amount I wanted to pay in SA and always got more for my money in Converse. The housing I lived in was far better than the vast majority of houses in SA. I made more money by myself than the average household income.

Man, I could've lived in a real nice place if I wasn't going through a divorce and had a wife who was working. You guys don't have any sense of reality if you can't figure out that I had a good deal in Converse living in a 2300 SF house with a single income and having to pay over $800/month in child support.

[lonny23]

Robbed wouldn't be a correct term. You all beat us....course I'm sure homes all over Converse will remember this like the US rising up against Japan and Germany as it was some great tale to be told over generations.
I don't really view it as a robbing because Judson deserved to win. For me, it was the just the focal point for the Rockets to rally around and start their playoff run. That game was the epitome of Rocket Pride. I listened to that Reagan-Churchill game over in Kyrgyzstan and just felt great about Judson's chances vs. Reagan. I could just imagine Rackley telling the boys about 28 straight years of winning records being on the line as a 4-4 (before MacArthur) and 5-4 (before Reagan) team. They rallied around that when they went 6-4 in 2003 when they had to beat an undefeated Roosevelt team knowing they had slim playoff hopes. I just felt like Reagan gave Judson another life and they wouldn't waste it. Basically, Judson had a lost season, but nobody killed the beast. They had injuries and problems with the offense, but the carrot was there for the taking and they seized the day like they almost always do. There is just something about the month of November that brings out the best in Judson. They have to have like a 90% winning percentage in November since 1980.

Judson has won at least 3 playoff games in 18 of 26 years in 5A. They missed the playoffs in 4 of the 8 years they didn't win 3 playoff games and that makes them 56-4 off the top with the two 2nd-round exits and two 1st round exits in November. Judson is 46-6 in the 9th (22-4) and 10th (24-2) games in 5A with some of those games in October and some in November. That puts them in the range of 80-6 for November plus however many of the 9th games were also in November.

SV and Reagan play Judson in November this year!:D

[TexasRed6x]

He goes to New Braunfels Canyon, but his dad is a big Judson guy.
Yup that's me allright. :D