_____What would you like to see changed in HS Football?_____

[Rerun]

Would you like to see only one state champion, not D1 & D2??

Would you like a Class 6A?

Would you like some form of instant replay inserted at the high school level?

What would you like to see changed in Texas HS Football?

[cougardude]

I would like to go back to "one" state champion - never have liked the two divisions thing.

[ktCarl]

I would like to go back to "one" state champion - never have liked the two divisions thing.

DITTO! Also don't like sooo many teams allowed into the playoffs.

[slcsportsfan]

Only the top 2 teams in each district make the playoffs

[RedRage00]

Every year in the semi's the Region I Champ faces Region II and Region III faces Region IV....maybe they could switch it every other year...Have Region I face Region IV and so on...that would be interesting.

RR

[Bilbo]

I would like to see it become manditory for the Home team to have their band, drill teams, and fans to sit on the Home section of the stadium.

[StormingCowboy]

Every year in the semi's the Region I Champ faces Region II and Region III faces Region IV....maybe they could switch it every other year...Have Region I face Region IV and so on...that would be interesting.

RR

I really like this idea.

[RedRage00]

I really like this idea.

Yeah, it gets boring seeing Region III and Region IV every year...it would spice it up if Judson and Midland Lee could possibly meet in the Semi's instead of the Final....know what I mean?

RR

[jrdaniel]

Yeah, it gets boring seeing Region III and Region IV every year...it would spice it up if Judson and Midland Lee could possibly meet in the Semi's instead of the Final....know what I mean?
Yep, it gets boring beating Ike in the semi's, maybe we could beat them in the finals for a change. :)

[Big Daddy Cool]

I gots to agree one the single state champs.. And the switching of the brackets might make for some dream type matchups. I don't think replay is needed in the High School game. Then again most of the newer stadiums have it anyways. As for the band and Drill team suggestion I thyink every school should have a special area out of the stands for these people. That way they are not taking up space that could be given to people who are actually there to see a football game and not a concert.

[pack0808]

1 champion and only 2 playoff teams per district. no 6a!!

[KLH75287]

Every year in the semi's the Region I Champ faces Region II and Region III faces Region IV....maybe they could switch it every other year...Have Region I face Region IV and so on...that would be interesting.

RR


I like that.

A prayer in Jesus name before the game over the PA system. Those that don't want to pray, can watch or sit there and read the program.

GO PACK IN '05

[mtbray]

KT's Note- Keep religious/political jabs off of this site. This is not the place for that.

[mtbray]

Would you like to see only one state champion, not D1 & D2??

Would you like a Class 6A?

Would you like some form of instant replay inserted at the high school level?

Yes, no, and yes.

I'd love to see the D1 and D2 respective Champs face off. I mean how interesting would it have been to see SLC and Tyler Lee go at it? Not to mention the additional revenue this type of game could provide.

I think the instant replay is a good idea, but like all forms of justice, they'd take forever!

[CoppellCowboy57]

Home feild advantage in the play-offs and a set site for the State Championship

ONE STATE CHAMPION

[RPM]

1 state champ
3 playoff teams
no 6A
no instant replay
I would also like to see the regions alternate every 2 years for the semis..

[pack0808]

KT's Note- Keep religious/political jabs off of this site. This is not the place for that.

[mtbray]

KT's Note- Keep religious/political jabs off of this site. This is not the place for that. Take it to PMs if you must.

[dragonsdaddy]

mtbray, if you could get pregnant, you could at least say we know we are right.

[pack0808]

KT's Note- Once again....Keep religious/political jabs off of this site. This is not the place for that.

[KLH75287]

My bad guys.... I didn't mean to upset Garland's finest, just stating what I would like to see. Why do I have to be a *dirty name* for that? I in NO way intended to start a religious debate over who is right or wrong. However, if you like, I will tell you who wins in the end.

GO PACK IN '05

[pack0808]

klh you had a right to say what you wanted changed in hs football and this guy decided to call you a name so i had to respond. you were just stating your opinion on what you wanted changed and he blasted you because he did not like your opinion.

[pack0808]

i will drop it no matter what elitist material he comes at me with that he likes to call facts. there is no place for this stuff in this site so i will concede. go ahead mtbray, rip me on my beliefs but i am still going to think i am right just like you do. i will live with your insults. ;) i might have to chop off my fingers so i do not respond though. :) i just simply think there is nothing wrong with saying a small prayer to God before a football game for protection of the kids. i am sorry i just do not see the crime in that.

[mtbray]

KT's Note- Keep religious/political jabs off of this site. This is not the place for that.

[mtbray]

My bad guys.... I didn't mean to upset Garland's finest, just stating what I would like to see. Why do I have to be a *dirty name* for that? I in NO way intended to start a religious debate over who is right or wrong. However, if you like, I will tell you who wins in the end.

GO PACK IN '05

heh, no worries.

The *dirtyname* thing was a joke. If i intended to insult you I wouldda put something there, just a joke.

[pack0808]

let's not go there and just drop it!! i apologize for playing a part.

[wide-e-wide]

a good argument and I missed it.

KT's Note- probably for the better. :D

With all of that said.......please let's not bring politics into a football discussion...It's been proven that it doesn't work...

KT's Note- Amen.

[Reaganrattler07]

This is way off topic.

[wide-e-wide]

Okay I'm back....I just read your sig and had to puke...
Joe Gibbs....he's a gangsta...respect due.

[mtbray]

ha, i took a pre-work nap and came back and it's all gone! I was sorta wondering when the thread would be locked.

I'm glad though, football > religion/politics.

[BandidoNB]

Call me wierd, but I like the Divisional state playoff system. Oh, and nothing less than 3 teams in the state playoffs.

[Reaganrattler07]

Okay I'm back....I just read your sig and had to puke...
Joe Gibbs....he's a gangsta...respect due.

Hahaha, well, if he wins games for the 'Skins then he's fine in my book...we should have a pretty good year this year. How are the "girls" gonna do this year?

[dragons08]

Hahaha, well, if we wins games for the 'Skins then he's fine in my book...we should have a pretty good year this year. How are the "girls" gonna do this year?
i think they got some new dance moves, and picked up some more babes

[Reaganrattler07]

Well, at least they don't have gramps as a QB anymore....course Bledsoe isn't much of an improvement. How do you all think the Cowboys defense is gonna be now that they have the 3-4?

Oh, and a clip of Clinton Portis' first run as a 'Skin: http://www.thewarpath.net/films/portisfirstrun.wmv (it opens up in Media Player)

[dragons08]

lets thorw in jr, (henson), im sure the tuna will get the 3-4 working, and i dont feel like opening that clip but i recall portis scoring a td

[Reaganrattler07]

If he's gonna use someone like Henson......why sign Bledsoe?

And yeah he went on like a 60 yard TD.

[lonny23]

What do you know, I missed an argument that I probably would've been in the middle of? :D

I'd like to see them crown Judson state champs every year!

OK, here you go.

Make everybody play in Week Zero.

Let 128 teams in the playoffs since 96 also takes 7 weeks and byes are too much of advantage.

Have 1 state champ.

[dragons08]

[QUOTE=lonny23]

Make everybody play in Week Zero.

QUOTE]
or you can elimate week zero, and call it week 1, and move everything back a week..

[lonny23]

[QUOTE=lonny23]

Make everybody play in Week Zero.

QUOTE]
or you can elimate week zero, and call it week 1, and move everything back a week..
Week Zero used to mean something, but since almost everybody plays now, it should be called Week 1. That's like starting the alphabet with C! :D

[dragons08]

[QUOTE=dragons08]
Week Zero used to mean something, but since almost everybody plays now, it should be called Week 1. That's like starting the alphabet with C! :D
no itd be like starting with -a, cause zero comes before one, so there is some sense 2 it, but c before a...no sesne there

[Reaganrattler07]

And to think some people were talking about how some athletes had trouble speaking.

[lonny23]

[QUOTE=lonny23]
no itd be like starting with -a, cause zero comes before one, so there is some sense 2 it, but c before a...no sesne there
On an IQ test -a would be the answer if one existed. Since we don't have -a in the alphabet, I picked another letter.

C is for cookie and that's good enough for me! :D

[dragons08]

[QUOTE=dragons08]
On an IQ test -a would be the answer if one existed. Since we don't have -a in the alphabet, I picked another letter.

C is for cookie and that's good enough for me! :D
b is for beer, wide man's choice

why not we just start with a combo of letters, i'll just pick some at random
SLC, thats good for me right there :D

[ktCarl]

Only the top 2 teams in each district make the playoffs

But isn't it soon to be the top 3? I've always thought only the district winner should go to the playoffs. The district title is trivialized when the second place team also goes. One year in the Houston area (1998?) Pearland made the playoffs as the 2nd team in their district with a 2-8 record. I think you should at least be over .500 to get into the playoffs.
Just my opinion.

[dragons08]

But isn't it soon to be the top 3? I've always thought only the district winner should go to the playoffs. The district title is trivialized when the second place team also goes. One year in the Houston area (1998?) Pearland made the playoffs as the 2nd team in their district with a 2-8 record. I think you should at least be over .500 to get into the playoffs.
Just my opinion.
i thought it was to be top 4...

[Reaganrattler07]

Should be in a few years

[Texas Hammer]

I want the top 4 to go because some of the stronger districts have 4 or more top teams. There are a lot of weaker districts that don't deserve 2 spots.

What's a bigger crime, letting a bad team have a chance to win in the playoffs or not giving a good team a chance to move on?

I have to say let 128 in the playoffs because I watch 6-4 and 7-3 teams in 26-5A go 5-2 in district and miss the playoffs every year.

[pack0808]

being a 5atexasfootball.com hall of famer if you will, lol i am well aware of that stuff like that does not belong in here kt. i did not bring it up but you know i am hard headed and cannot help but to respond sometimes. ;) i guess it could be discussed in the off topic thread right?? not that i want to continue the discussion but i was just curious??

[ktCarl]

I want the top 4 to go because some of the stronger districts have 4 or more top teams. There are a lot of weaker districts that don't deserve 2 spots.

What's a bigger crime, letting a bad team have a chance to win in the playoffs or not giving a good team a chance to move on?

I have to say let 128 in the playoffs because I watch 6-4 and 7-3 teams in 26-5A go 5-2 in district and miss the playoffs every year.

What kind of silly question is that?!
There isn't any crime being committed. You reward excellence with a trip to the post season. You don't send teams into the playoffs because someone wants to see them. Letting a bad team into the playoffs to "have a chance to win" is one of the sorriest and weak excuses I've ever heard. What's the point of winning District in your scenario?

[pack0808]

i agree completely ktcarl. 4 teams per district in the playoffs is a complete joke!!

[lonny23]

i agree completely ktcarl. 4 teams per district in the playoffs is a complete joke!!
4 teams in the playoffs is a joke only when you have a sorry district. I can't help it I've gotten used to the best district in the state. 26-5A deserves 4 teams in the playoffs. Some other districts barely deserve 1 spot. The alternative to this whole argument is to do like Louisiana and have a power poll determine the spots. Some districts would get more and some would get less. 26-5A would've had 6 of the 96 spots last year if they used a power poll.

[dragons08]

4 teams in the playoffs is a joke only when you have a sorry district. I can't help it I've gotten used to the best district in the state. 26-5A deserves 4 teams in the playoffs. Some other districts barely deserve 1 spot. The alternative to this whole argument is to do like Louisiana and have a power poll determine the spots. Some districts would get more and some would get less. 26-5A would've had 6 of the 96 spots last year if they used a power poll.
forget playoffs, lets use something similar to the BCS, we all know how great that works... :rolleyes:

[lonny23]

forget playoffs, lets use something similar to the BCS, we all know how great that works... :rolleyes:
It's more like BS! The man-made polls wouldn't be nearly as bad if they'd start in October instead of pre-season. You penalize and reward teams and it makes a huge difference how you finish.

[dragons08]

It's more like BS! The man-made polls wouldn't be nearly as bad if they'd start in October instead of pre-season. You penalize and reward teams and it makes a huge difference how you finish.
i think a playoff in college football, similar to march madness would be good..elimate the billion bowl games

[pack0808]

4 teams in the playoffs is a joke only when you have a sorry district. I can't help it I've gotten used to the best district in the state. 26-5A deserves 4 teams in the playoffs. Some other districts barely deserve 1 spot. The alternative to this whole argument is to do like Louisiana and have a power poll determine the spots. Some districts would get more and some would get less. 26-5A would've had 6 of the 96 spots last year if they used a power poll.


4 teams is a joke period!! and lmao at the power poll. 115a east texas had 3 top 10 teams all at once a few years ago and they have done that several years and i still think 2 teams is plenty. in fact, 125a east texas had 4 teams all in the top 10 at once in the mid to late 90's. if you cannot make second place in your district then well too bad you do not belong in the playoffs. just because a few districts have exceptions does not mean we should water down the playoffs with joke teams. the regular season should still have meaning and with 4 teams going to the playoffs it does not have much. sad actually!! it is all about the $$$$$

[ktCarl]

4 teams is a joke period!! and lmao at the power poll. 115a east texas had 3 top 10 teams all at once a few years ago and they have done that several years and i still think 2 teams is plenty. in fact, 125a east texas had 4 teams all in the top 10 at once in the mid to late 90's. if you cannot make second place in your district then well too bad you do not belong in the playoffs. just because a few districts have exceptions does not mean we should water down the playoffs with joke teams. the regular season should still have meaning and with 4 teams going to the playoffs it does not have much. sad actually!! it is all about the $$$$$

Ditto, Dude!!

I guess we're on the same page, Pack. If you can't win district or be runner up...too bad. Don't care how good your district is. If your district is awesome then the top team or top two teams would be the better representatives in the playoffs.

[Reaganrattler07]

4 teams in the playoffs is a joke only when you have a sorry district. I can't help it I've gotten used to the best district in the state. 26-5A deserves 4 teams in the playoffs. Some other districts barely deserve 1 spot. The alternative to this whole argument is to do like Louisiana and have a power poll determine the spots. Some districts would get more and some would get less. 26-5A would've had 6 of the 96 spots last year if they used a power poll.


I totally agree with that.

[SV05champs]

1. One state champ in each class
2. Instand replay (if it goes against tradition, why not go back to leather helmets, if its available, and it helps use it.)
3. More games on TV
4. NO MORE RICK RENNER, or however he spells his name
5. NO team that is 3/7 making the playoffs. It happens.







Would you like to see only one state champion, not D1 & D2??

Would you like a Class 6A?

Would you like some form of instant replay inserted at the high school level?

What would you like to see changed in Texas HS Football?

[pack0808]

there are going to be several more 3-7 teams making the playoffs next year. it will probably be common.

[Fleeman93]

In my opinion having four teams make the playoffs will only change the fact that D1 will have an extra week of football. Yes, there will be sorry *** teams making the playoffs and the extra week for D1 will create injury risks, but D2 already deals with that. I don't really agree with it, but it will be here to stay for at least a couple of years. With that said, I would like one division for each classification. I would like to see the final four teams in each classification seeded as to have 1 play 4 and 2 play 3. You could use a point differential or some other predetermined option as the tie breaker in the event of ties on records. In either case you are going to have to beat 2 of the four best teams in the state to win the title.

[wide-e-wide]

Today's show has been brought to by the letter B and the number zero.
Tune in tomorrow...Lonny's gonna break down math problems.
He'll start by counting all of the candles from his birthday cake.
It could take a while....
One ah ah aaah....Two...two candles...ah ah aah...

[lonny23]

Today's show has been brought to by the letter B and the number zero.
Tune in tomorrow...Lonny's gonna break down math problems.
He'll start by counting all of the candles from his birthday cake.
It could take a while....
One ah ah aaah....Two...two candles...ah ah aah...
Me and the girls watch Cookie Monster all the time and I'll just eat the cake before I get done counting the candles! :D

[pooch]

i agree completely ktcarl. 4 teams per district in the playoffs is a complete joke!!


Especially, when you were in a four team district.

[pooch]

Would you like to see only one state champion, not D1 & D2??

Would you like a Class 6A?

Would you like some form of instant replay inserted at the high school level?

What would you like to see changed in Texas HS Football?

Bring back the drop kick PAT...

Missed FG's are returnable...

Add more private schools...

Really off the wall >
Limit the passing to 30 attempts max. in a game OR 25 rushing attempts.

Use five downs for 20 yards (for a first down)

Prayer before the game

No radio headsets or video cameras or those endzone cameras

Eliminate the No Pass, No Play rule.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[dragons08]

Bring back the drop kick PAT...

Missed FG's are returnable...

Add more private schools...

Really off the wall >
Limit the passing to 30 attempts max. in a game OR 25 rushing attempts.

Use five downs for 20 yards (for a first down)

Prayer before the game

No radio headsets or video cameras or those endzone cameras

Eliminate the No Pass, No Play rule.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
what! limiting the pass and rush attempts! are you kidding me! thatd kill so many schools, that are pass heavy or rush heavy!

[pooch]

exactly....



BTW, that's why I had it under the bolded "really off the wall". Could you imagine?

[Bilbo]

Hey while were at it can we do something about the Bands at halftime? Like maybe limit them to just two songs.

[RPM]

I would like to add something else to this...
1 state champ
3 playoff teams
no 6A
no instant replay
I would also like to see the regions alternate every 2 years for the semis..

District Champ has a 1st rd..bye..

[pack0808]

I would like to add something else to this...
1 state champ
3 playoff teams
no 6A
no instant replay
I would also like to see the regions alternate every 2 years for the semis..

District Champ has a 1st rd..bye..


those are great ideas rpm!! that would be nice

[Reaganrattler07]

Bring back the drop kick PAT...

Missed FG's are returnable...

Add more private schools...

Really off the wall >
Limit the passing to 30 attempts max. in a game OR 25 rushing attempts.

Use five downs for 20 yards (for a first down)

Prayer before the game

No radio headsets or video cameras or those endzone cameras

Eliminate the No Pass, No Play rule.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

That's blasphemy if you call that mess "football".

And yeah, about the bands....limit them during halftime. Two songs and the second they're times up get them off the field.

[jrdaniel]

No mandatory play clock installed within view of the field.

[RPM]

I would like to add something else to this...
1 state champ
3 playoff teams
no 6A
no instant replay
I would also like to see the regions alternate every 2 years for the semis..

District Champ has a 1st rd..bye..

another thing I would like to add is that some schools have short (in height)FG post..I think UIL should make it a standard height for all schools..those short FG calls can sometimes be tricky to make..

[g-town07]

keep the no pass no play rule
sure its a pain in the rear whenever one of your star players flunks out for a big game, but how else are they gonna learn integrity?

hs football, in all its mass complexities, it all comes back down to teaching young men how to be respectable and dignified adults, right?