Growth in your area

[Rerun]

What kind of growth is in your area?

Are there any new schools being built?

In San Antonio, Wagner, Stevens, and Steele open up this year.

NISD is already preparing to build another high school to draw students from Clark and O'Connor.

NEISD just named their new high school, which will open in 2008.

There is a lot of growth in the San Antonio Area.

How is it in your neck of the woods?

[farmerfan]

In the Flowerplex region (Lewisville, Flower Mound and Highland Village) we are getting ready to open up another High School within the next few years. Since the 99-00 school year, Flower Mound and Hebron have been built in this district, all though Hebron did not affect LHS or MHS, it took away some great athletes from The Colony.
Since 1990, Lewisville has grown from 41,000 to over 85,000 while Flower Mound went from around 20-25,000 to over 55,000. The city of Highland Village also more than doubled its populations since 1990 and is a city of around 15,000.

[Texas Hammer]

School growth in good ol' WF is flatlined. I don't see any of the schools changing classifications in the near future.

[Fleeman93]

Katy's growth is borderline out of control. Katy's schools are as follows with year opened and projected enrollment:

Katy - 1898 - 2,768
Taylor - ? - 2796
Mayde Creek - 1984 - 2,764
Cinco Ranch - 1999 - 3171
Morton Ranch - 2004 - 1856
Seven Lakes - 2005 - ?

I have heard that the seventh high school is already in the planning stages and will open in the next few years.

[drgnbkr]

Katy's growth is borderline out of control. Katy's schools are as follows with year opened and projected enrollment:

Katy - 1898 - 2,768
Taylor - ? - 2796
Mayde Creek - 1984 - 2,764
Cinco Ranch - 1999 - 3171
Morton Ranch - 2004 - 1856
Seven Lakes - 2005 - ?

I have heard that the seventh high school is already in the planning stages and will open in the next few years.

1898???? Huh?

[TIGER07]

1898???? Huh?


It is the year that our school was founded (opened)

[Fleeman93]

Katy is old school

:)

[Rerun]

I am getting word that another NISD High School is already being talked about.

This one possibly opening in 2010 or 2011.

Would draw students from Stevens, Jay and Warren. Most likely located somewhere outside Loop 1604 off Marbach or Potranco.

When it is all said and done, look for NISD in San Antonio to have 13-14 High Schools.

They are at 9 right now,including the one under construction at 1604 and Bandera.

Out of all of the growth in San Antonio, 50% of ALL new homes are being built in NISD. This is a continuing trend. There is basically no room to grow on the East, North East side of Bexar County and North Central is topping out also, but is pushing towards Boerne, which is not in SA city limits. The big growth areas are now Northwest, Far Westside(outside 1604) and Southwest and South(once Toyota Factory comes).

Current NISD High Schools -
- Clark
- Holmes
- Jay
- Marhsall
- O'Connor
- Stevens
- Taft
- Warren
-TBA(draws students from O'Connor and Clark)

[pooch]

I am getting word that another NISD High School is already being talked about.

This one possibly opening in 2010 or 2011.

Would draw students from Stevens, Jay and Warren. Most likely located somewhere outside Loop 1604 off Marbach or Potranco.

When it is all said and done, look for NISD in San Antonio to have 13-14 High Schools.

They are at 9 right now,including the one under construction at 1604 and Bandera.

Out of all of the growth in San Antonio, 50% of ALL new homes are being built in NISD. This is a continuing trend. There is basically no room to grow on the East, North East side of Bexar County and North Central is topping out also, but is pushing towards Boerne, which is not in SA city limits. The big growth areas are now Northwest, Far Westside(outside 1604) and Southwest and South(once Toyota Factory comes).

Current NISD High Schools -
- Clark
- Holmes
- Jay
- Marhsall
- O'Connor
- Stevens
- Taft
- Warren
-TBA(draws students from O'Connor and Clark)


Let's move to Chilicothe and up their enrollment!

[RedRage00]

The stupid VISD in Victoria should be deconsolidating in the next couple years and plan a THIRD high school in Victoria...hopefully :)

[Tigerjag]

Katy is old school

:)


Katy is an old town.

[TheDuke]

We are growing so fast it is SCARY!! We just built a NEW high school, which will be the 3rd high school! I went to the First one, then The Woodlands HS opened, and now there is one called Woodlands @ College Park! Which I think the name is STUPID but it was not my decision! Mascot is the Cavaliers! The amount of kids is OUT OF CONTROL! When I went to HS I knew everybody, now there are so many kids they are gonna have a rivalry between 2 schools! I don't agree with it but with this many kids what can you do?

[RedRage00]

Woodlands at College Park???? What kinda name is that....the person who came up with that needs to be shot LOL

RR

[owlfan 1]

Garland ISD (which includes Garland, Rowlett and Sachse) just opened their 7th high school two years ago in Sachse. There are tentative plans for an 8th, in Rowlett, in the near future. All seven GISD schools are well over the 5A limit (for a while, Lakeview was at a 4A level, but they have filled back up).

Watch out for Lakeview this year - they are an up and coming program...

[Red Raiders]

Tyler grew 25,000 people in 10 years because of the best place retirements. Right now it is 105,000 people, WHOO Hoo. We may grow like Austin in 20 years I hope.

I don't think we will build another high school due to taxes on private schools and ALOT of retirement people. We do have alot of private schools here in Tyler so that will probably happen in a long time.

[Red Raiders]

We are growing so fast it is SCARY!! We just built a NEW high school, which will be the 3rd high school! I went to the First one, then The Woodlands HS opened, and now there is one called Woodlands @ College Park! Which I think the name is STUPID but it was not my decision! Mascot is the Cavaliers! The amount of kids is OUT OF CONTROL! When I went to HS I knew everybody, now there are so many kids they are gonna have a rivalry between 2 schools! I don't agree with it but with this many kids what can you do?

Yes I heard about The Woodlands growing alot but take a look at Sugar Land (Fort Bend or Fort Bend County), when i was a little kid there 10 years ago, there was only 3 high schools and now 8 high schools!! Thats amazing. The Woodlands also a rich people area too like most of sugar land parts and River Oaks.

[Red Raiders]

Katy is old school

:)

NOT OLDER THAN TYLER LEE, they were built in 1960's and probably have remodled like 3 times to me but I don't know how many times. They just need to cut off students on our campus because its getting way too crowded but also our campus is very huge and it is 1 story.

[Rerun]

It is projected that SCUCISD(Schertz Clemens and Cibolo Steele) will have their student population double by 2010.

If that happens a third high school is imminent and all 3 would be at Class 5A.

[Fleeman93]

NOT OLDER THAN TYLER LEE, they were built in 1960's and probably have remodled like 3 times to me but I don't know how many times. They just need to cut off students on our campus because its getting way too crowded but also our campus is very huge and it is 1 story.

Katy opened in 1898, so I think it has a few years on Tyler lee. The thing about KISD is that all of the schools are in Katy, not several towns combined into one ISD.

[poppy]

all the katy schools are not in katy...
they are all kisd
katy high is in katy
however
mayde creek is actually in houston city limits
katy taylor is harris county
cinco ranch is in ft bend couty
seven lakes is in ft bend coutk
morton ranch....i would guess is in houston as well if not the the county

[ktchamp97]

all the katy schools are not in katy...
they are all kisd
katy high is in katy
however
mayde creek is actually in houston city limits
katy taylor is harris county
cinco ranch is in ft bend couty
seven lakes is in ft bend coutk
morton ranch....i would guess is in houston as well if not the the county

Technically, you are correct, since the vast majority of the area is unincorporated. But, I think just about all of the people who go to those schools have "Katy" addresses...except MC.

[Fleeman93]

I stand corrected about Mayde Creek. I was always under the impression that the Houston city limits was Barker Cypress.

[LeanderLions3033]

I read in the Austin American Statesmen, that Williamson County (which consists of Leander, Pflugerville, Cedar Park, Round Rock, Georgetown, Burnet, Lago Vista, Liberty Hill etc) is the 2nd fastest growing county in Texas. That says alot right there.

[Rerun]

ATX and STX are growing rapidly.

I know that San Antonio Metro is rapidly expanding.

Although we will not know for sure until the new census comes out, it is being reported that SA has just under 2 million people right now, with room to expand for another 2 million more.

Only half of the city is developed right now.

[lonny23]

Let's move to Chilicothe and up their enrollment!
You practically double the enrollment if you move yourself! :D

[lonny23]

Tyler grew 25,000 people in 10 years because of the best place retirements. Right now it is 105,000 people, WHOO Hoo. We may grow like Austin in 20 years I hope.

I don't think we will build another high school due to taxes on private schools and ALOT of retirement people. We do have alot of private schools here in Tyler so that will probably happen in a long time.
Tyler has 85,000 people and those 2 high schools would have a lot more kids or you'd have more high schools if you actually had 105,000. Tyler hasn't even grown 25,000 people in the last 25 years.

[Rerun]

You practically double the enrollment if you move yourself! :D

Either it's really small there or he is fat. :confused: :o

[lonny23]

NOT OLDER THAN TYLER LEE, they were built in 1960's and probably have remodled like 3 times to me but I don't know how many times. They just need to cut off students on our campus because its getting way too crowded but also our campus is very huge and it is 1 story.
Dude, they're talking about the school starting in 1898. It's like John Tyler being older than Lee and Longview being older than Pine Tree.

[lonny23]

Technically, you are correct, since the vast majority of the area is unincorporated. But, I think just about all of the people who go to those schools have "Katy" addresses...except MC.
There's no doubt he's correct because you can't get 7 5A schools out of a town with 10,000 people! You can't even get 1 5A school out of 10,000 people.

[ktchamp97]

It's reeeeeeaaaaally small. Growth in that area can only refer to wildlife or foliage.

I've sort of adopted Zephyr as my favorite little town. Lonny, how does that compare to Chilicothe?...since, you've probably been to both.

I read in the Austin American Statesmen, that Williamson County (which consists of Leander, Pflugerville, Cedar Park, Round Rock, Georgetown, Burnet, Lago Vista, Liberty Hill etc) is the 2nd fastest growing county in Texas. That says alot right there.

That wouldn't surprise me at all. That area is beautiful.

[lonny23]

I read in the Austin American Statesmen, that Williamson County (which consists of Leander, Pflugerville, Cedar Park, Round Rock, Georgetown, Burnet, Lago Vista, Liberty Hill etc) is the 2nd fastest growing county in Texas. That says alot right there.
Fastest growing counties by % from 2000-2002:

Rockwall 18.1 (East Dallas)
Williamson 16.0 (North Austin)
Collin 15.3 (North Dallas)
Denton 12.8 (North Dallas)
Fort Bend 12.7 (Southwest Houston)
Hays 12.3 (South Austin)
Rains 12.0 (East Texas)
Montgomery 11.8 (North Houston)
Bastrop 10.7 (East Austin)
Kaufman 9.3 (East Dallas)

The 10 biggest losers (Besides the guys on this board :D ) are all small counties and from West Texas, Llano Estacado, and Panhandle Plains.

For sheer numbers, Dallas and Houston are the areas that have gained the most people in the last 5 years, but Austin and San Antonio have also grown quite a bit.

[LeanderLions3033]

^^The Lago Vista area has some of the nicest views of the lake that i've ever seen.

[lonny23]

ATX and STX are growing rapidly.

I know that San Antonio Metro is rapidly expanding.

Although we will not know for sure until the new census comes out, it is being reported that SA has just under 2 million people right now, with room to expand for another 2 million more.

Only half of the city is developed right now.
I read one time where Austin and SA would have 4 million people in their metro areas if they grew together, but that seems low.

The 2002 estimates for metro areas said:

SA 1,660,205 (Bexar, Comal, Guadalupe, and Wilson Counties)
Austin 1,349,291 (Travis, Bastrop, Caldwell, Hays, and Williamson Counties)

Houston is probably the only city in Texas that will ever have 2 million people. Dallas is too landlocked by the suburbs to do it, but San Antonio has a chance only because they aren't landlocked to the north and south and to the west for the most part. There is a big difference between population of cities and metro areas. Houston will always have a lot more people than Dallas, but Dallas will always be a bigger metro area.

[Rerun]

Read earlier tonight a rough estimate of the current SA Metro is 1.8 million.

Projected Metro for SA in 2019 is 2.2 Million.

[lonny23]

It's reeeeeeaaaaally small. Growth in that area can only refer to wildlife or foliage.

I've sort of adopted Zephyr as my favorite little town. Lonny, how does that compare to Chilicothe?...since, you've probably been to both.



That wouldn't surprise me at all. That area is beautiful.
Chillicothe is bigger, but both towns play 6-man. Since Zephyr is by Brownwood, it looks better scenery-wise than Chillicothe. I'll take Chillicothe because of the romanticism of always going up 287 as a kid. I don't like having to slow down as much going into Chillicothe, though. I like the name of both towns, but I'll give that to Chillicothe, too.

What has me upset is that I couldn't buy a "Welcome to Earth" t-shirt when I was driving through Earth a few weeks ago. Since it was July 4th weekend, I did get to see the Muleshoe mule wearing a red, white, and blue hat.

[Red Raiders]

Tyler has 85,000 people and those 2 high schools would have a lot more kids or you'd have more high schools if you actually had 105,000. Tyler hasn't even grown 25,000 people in the last 25 years.

Ummm yea they did..... I looked on 1995 Census sign on beside the road and it said 83,000 and now it has 105,000 so that has grown to 25,000 or more. And you know why they have that 2 high school because of the TAXES and RETIREMENT PEOPLE TAXES so thats why we can't get another. We have many many private schools is what I said and they also pay for that too out of taxes. We def. rapidly growing and we may continue and be like Austin did when they were a medium town like Tyler right now 25 years ago. I am just talking about just in Tyler not outside of Tyler.

[Bootsdaddy]

According to the United States Census Bureau, Tyler's 2000 Popuation was 83,000. I know that area is growing but is it posible that alot of the growth is outside of the city limits and not included in the population. The population on the city limits signs are an estimate by the census bureau and are usually changed every two years. I just dont see Tyler's population growing by almost 25% in the last 5 years and i really cant see Tyler growing like Austin because there is nothing there. Its a big version of Lufkin. Twenty five years ago Austin had probably 400,000 and of course was our capital and the home of the largest university in Texas.

[Ramz]

Technically, you are correct, since the vast majority of the area is unincorporated. But, I think just about all of the people who go to those schools have "Katy" addresses...except MC.

Mayde Creek is not within the Houston city limits, neither is Morton Ranch...All KISD schools ( other than Katy High) are in unincorporated areas of Harris/FT Bend County, but some areas near MC and Taylor have Houston addresses.

[Lufkin_Class_Of_08]

We are growing so fast it is SCARY!! We just built a NEW high school, which will be the 3rd high school! I went to the First one, then The Woodlands HS opened, and now there is one called Woodlands @ College Park! Which I think the name is STUPID but it was not my decision! Mascot is the Cavaliers! The amount of kids is OUT OF CONTROL! When I went to HS I knew everybody, now there are so many kids they are gonna have a rivalry between 2 schools! I don't agree with it but with this many kids what can you do?

my cousin will be a soph at college park and he said they dont know why its woodlans @ cp he said it was dumb...thanks to this site i know more about his school than he does :D

[ktchamp97]

Mayde Creek is not within the Houston city limits, neither is Morton Ranch...All KISD schools ( other than Katy High) are in unincorporated areas of Harris/FT Bend County, but some areas near MC and Taylor have Houston addresses.

Thanks Ramz...I thought that was right, but poppy got me thinking MC was inside the city limits. I knew Morton Ranch certainly wasn't.

[GTown02]

^^The Lago Vista area has some of the nicest views of the lake that i've ever seen.
Yea they do... Their golf course is awesome! :)

[SummitGrad04]

Mansfield (part of the Metroplex) has gone from 8,000 to 50,000 people in the past 20 yrs. They've also went from 1 to 3 high schools, and have broke ground on the 4th.

[dragonsdaddy]

summit and old high. what's the 3rd?

[SummitGrad04]

summit and old high. what's the 3rd?
1. Mansfield High
2. Summit High
3. Timberview High
4. Legacy High (to open in 2006 i think)

[dragonsdaddy]

in the very near future, lville isd will almost have their own district, what with lv, marcus, fm, tcol, hebron, and soon highland village high. nwisd is slated to have 7 schools come on line at grow out, which is several years away. keller will be built out after they grow into their 4th hs. there won't be much open space south of denton before long, if it keeps up the way it is going.

[RedRage00]

I feel deconsolidation is near....The Superintendent is gone...the school board that voted in consolidation have been voted out and replaced by anti-consolidation members...its only a matter of time. No one in Victoria wanted this. I hope they bring back the Stingarees and Raiders..one can wish.

This is from the Victoria advocate:


In a second order of business, Ned Walton, the consultant hired by the district to create a master facilities plan, addressed the board.

"We have to get a good dialogue on where we are and where we are going," he said.

He was hired to decide if the district needs to renovate, build or close any schools. Earlier this summer he said the district should build at least one additional high school campus, remodel some school facilities and even knock down some schools or parts of some schools.

He said his final report would be presented to the board and community at the Aug. 18 board meeting. After members hear his final presentation, Walton suggested the board have a public forum to get public comment.

"I believe very strongly in public input," he said.

However, Keeling told Walton she felt there should be a public forum before the final report.

Trustee Ray Walden said he agreed with Walton that the board should hear the final report before hosting a public forum.

"We're going to get people shooting at holes that aren't there," he said.

Board President Bernard Klimist clarified that the board will not vote on Walton's presentation in August, but will take the information presented and tweak it as needed.

"I will hold your hand until we get this to be your plan and not mine," Walton said.

[KTFootball_05]

In regards to the growth in KISD. Am I the only one that finds it a bit strange that the last two head coach positions, Morton Ranch and Seven Meadows, did not come from within the the district.
That would explain why Katy High School has had to replace eight coaches in the past two years.
The school district wants Cinco Ranch to be their show case school in the district. So they are slowly breaking down the athletic program at Katy.

[wide-e-wide]

I saw the title of this thread and couldn't help but laugh....
I know...I know...that's not what he meant.

[jrdaniel]

Damn, wide, I dont know how that one has slipped by for so long. Good stuff.

[Texas Hammer]

Damn, wide, I dont know how that one has slipped by for so long. Good stuff.
It slipped by for so long because I want to keep it clean. I could've said something a few weeks ago, but didn't. My mind and mouth are battlegrounds of good and evil. I catch pretty much everything, but don't bite.

[RedRage00]

I saw the title of this thread and couldn't help but laugh....
I know...I know...that's not what he meant.

:p
:D

[Favpack]

There are many 5A schools experiencing no growth or negative growth. Schools like Lufkin, Longview, Tyler JT, Abilene, Odessa, Midland are holding steady, but just barely - even though their respective counties are growing. The smaller outlying districts are growing like crazy - but not the big schools. A decade from now you may well see a 6A division - which will be Metro-only schools (Dallas, SA, Houston, EP, etc.) -- a sad day that is likely coming.