View Full Version : Greg McElroy Top 10 QB?
SV05champs
07-24-2005, 11:06 PM
OK, I admit, I do not know much about this kid. I did not see him play any in the past years. If he did play it was as backup after SLC was ahead. I only seen SLC play one game last year, and they needed all of there starters in for that one. ANYWAY... no disrespect toward SLC or McElroy, but how on earth can he be named a top 10 player in his position? Aside from attending every camp available, what else is there to back this claim up? Did he get more playing time last year than I know about? And was it against good teams? If he did well in JV or as a freshman, is that what is being used to determine this? Please help me out on this one.... I am confused.
jtk1519
07-24-2005, 11:28 PM
From what I understand, McElroy has built a reputation through these camps that has made recruiters and schools take notice. Everyone wants to see how ell he does this year, but I think most already expect him to be pretty good.
drgnbkr
07-25-2005, 12:03 AM
Yeah, he has 8 D-1 offers...he will be fine this year & is definately one of the top ten QB's in the state. With the WR's he has to work with & Coach Dodge, he has it as good as it gets....underrate him at your own peril SV05
SV05champs
07-25-2005, 01:53 AM
Underrate him? I have nothing to rate him to, it seems that he may be overrated, and that is fine with me. 8 D-1 offers just on hype from camps? I guess they know its not binding. I just dont see him being that great yet. I seen the highlights, but didnt see anything too great. I guess we shall see. I just hope he does not have to depend on his legs. He did not seem to be that great of a runner. Anyway, I was not underrateing him, just curious about all the hype. Also wondering why he has not started in the past? After spending an entire summer at the best camps around, I would hope he lives up to the hype somewhat at least.
Yeah, he has 8 D-1 offers...he will be fine this year & is definately one of the top ten QB's in the state. With the WR's he has to work with & Coach Dodge, he has it as good as it gets....underrate him at your own peril SV05
LarryFine
07-25-2005, 06:15 AM
Building a reputation at camps isn't that big of a deal for some of us who followed recruiting a long time. Those are hit and miss. Looking like a hero in camp is one thing, translating it to D1 is quite another. Plus, the SLC coach is a big reason McElroy is getting attention. He is taking over the reigns of a great offensive system.
The peril isn't from under rating McElroy at this point. The peril is giving a guy a full ride before even seeing him in a football game. That is where the risk comes in, offering to pay $60,000 plus for an unknown.
I know SCL fans ferverantly believe their players can do no wrong, but some of us who are not SLC fans are a little more objective. Before you Dragons start the flaming, one of the colleges who seems to have offered is my school and I trust my coaching staff. If Leach offered McElroy, that is fine by me. Besides, the fact Leach is interested adds a lot of credibility to McElroy, or at least should.
For the record, I am a college football fan who also follows high school football fan. Although I was born and raised in Texas, I have NO aligence to any Texas HS nor a fan of any one particular team. I just enjoy the football games.
Shoot2thrill
07-25-2005, 06:59 AM
Building a reputation at camps isn't that big of a deal for some of us who followed recruiting a long time. Those are hit and miss. Looking like a hero in camp is one thing, translating it to D1 is quite another. Plus, the SLC coach is a big reason McElroy is getting attention. He is taking over the reigns of a great offensive system.
The peril isn't from under rating McElroy at this point. The peril is giving a guy a full ride before even seeing him in a football game. That is where the risk comes in, offering to pay $60,000 plus for an unknown.
I know SCL fans ferverantly believe their players can do no wrong, but some of us who are not SLC fans are a little more objective. Before you Dragons start the flaming, one of the colleges who seems to have offered is my school and I trust my coaching staff. If Leach offered McElroy, that is fine by me. Besides, the fact Leach is interested adds a lot of credibility to McElroy, or at least should.
For the record, I am a college football fan who also follows high school football fan. Although I was born and raised in Texas, I have NO aligence to any Texas HS nor a fan of any one particular team. I just enjoy the football games.
Very well said and very accurate. I think the system that he plays in allows most fans to expect great things from him. Whether that plays out over a season is of course to be seen. He sure has the supporting cast and of course coaching to get it done. :cool:
DW@SunshinePreps
07-25-2005, 07:17 AM
Greg was actually offered before he started impressing at camp. He was offered based off what he did last year when he was in the game. Here is some footage on Greg if you have not seen it.
March 4th interview and video link:
http://sunshinepreps.net/content/view/132/0/
dragonsdaddy
07-25-2005, 08:14 AM
the elite eleven final camp must be soon. is there any word as to who all has been invited?
Purple Haze
07-25-2005, 08:32 AM
the elite eleven final camp must be soon. is there any word as to who all has been invited?
The only 2 Texas QBs that were invited were Jevan Sneed (I hope I spelled that right) from Stephenville and Matt Stafford from Dallas H-Park. :)
southlake thug
07-25-2005, 09:22 AM
mcelroy was named the #1 qb at the nike camp in dallas a couple months back... i think that gives him some credit
the kid has a ridiculoius arm and is one of the smartest players around
drgnbkr
07-25-2005, 09:38 AM
The thread started by SV05 doing another of his ill informed hatchet jobs..as with Chase Daniel, Mc does'nt need me defending him..he will do just fine on his own...
SLCDad
07-25-2005, 10:06 AM
OK, I admit, I do not know much about this kid. I did not see him play any in the past years. If he did play it was as backup after SLC was ahead. I only seen SLC play one game last year. . . . I am confused.
Yep, exactly.
drgnbkr
07-25-2005, 10:18 AM
Yep, exactly.
What he said.... ;)
dentonRYAN
07-25-2005, 10:23 AM
Im fine with putting him in the Top 10 when he actually plays a game or two...he probably will be good (he doesnt need to be great for SLC to win...they have many weapons...he just cant be a total bust which he probably wont be).... but whats the point of rating a player who has nothing to be rated on....come on you guys....camps are not the same as actual football games....
i would understand if he was in the list of "players to watch" becasue i think everyone is going to "watch" him...and see if he is all that
drgnbkr
07-25-2005, 10:50 AM
I don't think anyone really cares where an individual player is ranked at this point...I'm sure all coaches, everywhere, are working hard to get their teams ready for the season...this is silly....
ktchamp97
07-25-2005, 10:52 AM
Although the Top 10 players by position lists are mostly based on the top returning producers, there is some projection built in as well. It's certainly not an exact science.
We happen to think that McElroy will easily prove that he belongs on that list. From what I've seen on film, I have no doubt that he'll have a great year.
CARROLL1
07-25-2005, 11:20 AM
I Don't Think Those Rings On Dodge's Hand Have Any Trouble Pointing Out His Next Qb!
I Think An Ex-qb Himself Can Pick A Sufficent Qb For His Dominating Spread Offense~ Top 10 Or Not ~ Wasson Wasn't Top 10 At All And See What He Did In 02'
There Is More Important Things To Pin-point In Carroll's Offense~
Like Nate Newton's Boy- He'll Be A Back This Year
Favpack
07-25-2005, 03:09 PM
I think McElroy will definitely be top 10 - but, will be an interesting dilemma if he struggles early on. Does Dodge stick with him through thick and thin, or go with his son?
I think SLC will carry on with only a slight hitch in consistency on O - but ONLY because of their unreal world class of wideouts next year - probably the best they've ever had - which is saying alot. If you had unknowns at qb, rb and wr - then you might have an overall bigger question mark - but he will be good I think.
RidgePride
07-25-2005, 07:40 PM
I think McElroy will definitely be top 10 - but, will be an interesting dilemma if he struggles early on. Does Dodge stick with him through thick and thin, or go with his son?
I think SLC will carry on with only a slight hitch in consistency on O - but ONLY because of their unreal world class of wideouts next year - probably the best they've ever had - which is saying alot. If you had unknowns at qb, rb and wr - then you might have an overall bigger question mark - but he will be good I think.
I truly believe he will stick with McElroy through thick and thin. There is too much riding on McElroy this year with colleges and such.
If he pulls McElroy and puts in his son, that could look really bad.
dragonsdaddy
07-25-2005, 08:15 PM
i'm going to be surprised if mc doesn't commit before 2 a days are over. i know dodge would prefer it so everyone can be on the same page. distractions aren't likely to improve the outcome.
SV05champs
07-25-2005, 09:46 PM
ill informed, yes, that is the reason for the post. LIKE I SAID... Just curious, you dont have to be a jerk about it. Later
The thread started by SV05 doing another of his ill informed hatchet jobs..as with Chase Daniel, Mc does'nt need me defending him..he will do just fine on his own...
SV05champs
07-25-2005, 09:49 PM
Some of you guys are really cool. Cant even ask a question around here.
SV05champs
07-25-2005, 09:52 PM
SLC DAD, next time why dont you not edit my post idiot. Thanks. Here it is in full text. You guys really need to get a clue. This is a forum, not a SLC site. I was just curious. Sorry if I offended you and your #1 QB.
"""OK, I admit, I do not know much about this kid. I did not see him play any in the past years. If he did play it was as backup after SLC was ahead. I only seen SLC play one game last year, and they needed all of there starters in for that one. ANYWAY... no disrespect toward SLC or McElroy, but how on earth can he be named a top 10 player in his position? Aside from attending every camp available, what else is there to back this claim up? Did he get more playing time last year than I know about? And was it against good teams? If he did well in JV or as a freshman, is that what is being used to determine this? Please help me out on this one.... I am confused."""
Texasfrog
07-25-2005, 10:01 PM
Some of you guys are really cool. Cant even ask a question around here.
I'm not from SLC so I'll speak as an outsider about the issue. I think McElroy is getting alot of respect more than anything for the program his playing at. Coach Dodge has gained alot of respect for the quality of coaching his doing there for making players better.
McElroy had some nice backup quality time last season late in games (4th qt) where he showed flashes of being another top line SLC QB. His got the size and arm strength to be a legit college QB. He also appears to be a quality character kid from a good family (which means alot) especially for a leadership position like QB.
Plus, with the summer camps, 7 on 7 games and other things like Spring practices where scouts come to look at players. McElroy showed that he has solid potential.
So, looking at all the variables about SLC and McElroy. I have no doubt that he'll have a strong senior season and show to everyone that his a college level QB and deserves a high ranking among Texas QB.
PS. But I'll also say that I'm not a huge fan of player rankings. :)
drgnbkr
07-25-2005, 10:02 PM
SV05 ..you need to cool your jets...SV has a great program going, but you must be having a miserable life..your an embarrasment to the fine people of that area..don't go away mad...just go away!
SV05champs
07-26-2005, 12:59 AM
Wow, see SLC people, thats easy. Thanks frog. I was just wondering if I missed something, like playing time, from last year. I guess the highlight film was his 4th quarter play. Also does anyone know if those other teams put in the 2nd team? I know a lot of teams will play the 2nd team if they are getting beat really bad. I know SLC beat some poor team 70-? last year.
I'm not from SLC so I'll speak as an outsider about the issue. I think McElroy is getting alot of respect more than anything for the program his playing at. Coach Dodge has gained alot of respect for the quality of coaching his doing there for making players better.
McElroy had some nice backup quality time last season late in games (4th qt) where he showed flashes of being another top line SLC QB. His got the size and arm strength to be a legit college QB. He also appears to be a quality character kid from a good family (which means alot) especially for a leadership position like QB.
Plus, with the summer camps, 7 on 7 games and other things like Spring practices where scouts come to look at players. McElroy showed that he has solid potential.
So, looking at all the variables about SLC and McElroy. I have no doubt that he'll have a strong senior season and show to everyone that his a college level QB and deserves a high ranking among Texas QB.
PS. But I'll also say that I'm not a huge fan of player rankings. :)
SV05champs
07-26-2005, 01:02 AM
Yea, thats right, but why do you keep comming back to this post? You have nothing to add to it except smart *** remarks...Think what you want, but what did I ever say about you that was negative?
SV05 ..you need to cool your jets...SV has a great program going, but you must be having a miserable life..your an embarrasment to the fine people of that area..don't go away mad...just go away!
slcsportsfan
07-26-2005, 09:08 AM
May I suggest that some folks need to relax. McElroy did get his playing time when the games were over last year. Most of his snaps were running plays. Dodge was trying to run out the clock. He did have a few opportunities to throw. He has a good arm, nice size, and is a smart kid. He too will have a learing curve like Daniel did last year. If he tries to be himself and not Chase (either one), then he will be just fine.
I think we can all agree that he will get added praise and exposure because he is at SLC. Having a program that has gone 47-1 and is coached by one of the best in the state will provide that for you. Case in point, you are seeing more scholarships early this year because colleges are looking more at SLC. I can assure you, if we didn't have this record, you wouldn't see the rise in major schools, lurking around. It would be business as usual. Should be fun to see how this all turns out. I hope we have a nice run like the last few years. If not, it will be funny to hear how the program is going down the tubes if we ever lose a game.
SLCDad
07-26-2005, 09:55 AM
SLC DAD, next time why dont you not edit my post idiot. . . . You guys really need to get a clue. This is a forum. . .
Now now now. No need for name calling. A little humor is half the fun don't you think?
Oooops . . . I edited again.
Shoot2thrill
07-26-2005, 12:12 PM
May I suggest that some folks need to relax. McElroy did get his playing time when the games were over last year. Most of his snaps were running plays. Dodge was trying to run out the clock. He did have a few opportunities to throw. He has a good arm, nice size, and is a smart kid. He too will have a learing curve like Daniel did last year. If he tries to be himself and not Chase (either one), then he will be just fine.
I think we can all agree that he will get added praise and exposure because he is at SLC. Having a program that has gone 47-1 and is coached by one of the best in the state will provide that for you. Case in point, you are seeing more scholarships early this year because colleges are looking more at SLC. I can assure you, if we didn't have this record, you wouldn't see the rise in major schools, lurking around. It would be business as usual. Should be fun to see how this all turns out. I hope we have a nice run like the last few years. If not, it will be funny to hear how the program is going down the tubes if we ever lose a game.
You should re-name yourself the "voice of reason" my friend. Well put and stated and very objective I might add. :cool:
dragonsdaddy
07-26-2005, 12:39 PM
one thing about mcelroy's hs career, it will be well documented. his blip on the radar is about as big as it comes. many will expect perfection, and will say i told you so if he were to stumble, or heaven forbid, be a teenager. he has been well raised and well coached, and has that certain cockiness about him that all qbs better have. his teammates expect him to do exactly what they expect of themselves. he got a dose of it last year-TEAMme. barring injury, he'll be fine.
Shoot2thrill
07-26-2005, 08:22 PM
one thing about mcelroy's hs career, it will be well documented. his blip on the radar is about as big as it comes. many will expect perfection, and will say i told you so if he were to stumble, or heaven forbid, be a teenager......barring injury, he'll be fine.
I agree ddaddy..he will be fine and he certainly is a top 10 QB in the state IMHO just because of his pedigree. He also certainly seems to have the physical tools that it takes to play D1. Will he be the best in the state of the end of the year? Who knows? But all he has to be is good enough to connect with that plethora of receivers, win a few games and his confidence will continue to grow. ;) Then look out!
KT2000
07-26-2005, 08:39 PM
In my five years running a 5A web site, I've never seen a single player debated/discussed like McElroy has been. Ever since people began talking about this upcoming season months ago, we've had multiple page threads about him.
Unreal.
I suggest everyone calm down and let he and the Dragons settle things on the field. As always, competition will bring out the true player.
Texasfrog
07-26-2005, 08:49 PM
In my five years running a 5A web site, I've never seen a single player debated/discussed like McElroy has been. Ever since people began talking about this upcoming season months ago, we've had multiple page threads about him.
Unreal.
I suggest everyone calm down and let he and the Dragons settle things on the field. As always, competition will bring out the true player.
Probably because it seems like alot of people seem to have either a Love or Hate relationship with SLC.
I'm not really sure the debate is about McElroy personally. I think its more that his the cannon fodder subject for the SLC program more than anything.
dragonsdaddy
07-26-2005, 09:19 PM
the lightning rod that slc has created for themselves is evident and expected. i'm sure if these forums had been active 7 yrs ago, mlee would have been the target. no harm, no foul. as my wife is prone to say in these situations, "it is better to be looked over than overlooked."
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