HS Coaches ALL Star Game THIS Tuesday!!

[rangerpride]

When: Tuesday July 26th at 7:30pm
Where: Alamodome, San Antonio, TX
Who: the 2004 football All-Stars, as selected by the members of the Texas High School Coaches Association


Looks to be a good game to get us all warmed up for the new season. Also the last chance to see guys like Jerrell Wilkerson, Chase Daniel, Javorskie Lane, Jamaal Charles, and Joe Pawelek in action before they head off to college.

Tickets can be purchased at the gate, I assume ($5???).

See ya at the DOME!!!

[catman]

Will be televised live on Fox Sports for those who cannot attend.

[Texasfrog]

Will be televised live on Fox Sports for those who cannot attend.

Yes, Foxsports SW is broadcasting the game. :)

[Rerun]

I will be watching it. Should be fun.

[pack0808]

javorski lane will be representing the north and his brother jemichael finley will be representing the south?? how can that be?? diboll is only 10 miles south of lufkin. you would think they would be on the same team?? they will definitely be on different teams come this fall with one at texas and the other at a&m.

[Joboots]

Here's the scoop!


http://smoaky.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=39605

[wide-e-wide]

javorski lane will be representing the north and his brother jemichael finley will be representing the south?? how can that be?? diboll is only 10 miles south of lufkin. you would think they would be on the same team?? they will definitely be on different teams come this fall with one at texas and the other at a&m.

Discussed this on another thread. We decided the cut-off point must have been somewhere between AC and the Starlight Ballroom. hahaha
That is crazy.

Either that or the North team didn't want any of those thugs from Diboll on their team....just kidding.....just kidding...My sister lives in Diboll and my nephew is the quarterback at Diboll high. Wish Jermichael was playing there this season...he could pad his stats big time throwing to him.

[LPFAN]

Discussed this on another thread. We decided the cut-off point must have been somewhere between AC and the Starlight Ballroom. hahaha
That is crazy.
Must be. The Starlight Ballroom is a church now. I forgot it was even called the Starlight Ballroom. Wasn't it called the Texas Stage when it first opened?

[wide-e-wide]

Must be. The Starlight Ballroom is a church now. I forgot it was even called the Starlight Ballroom. Wasn't it called the Texas Stage when it first opened?

Sure was....My Mom and Dad went and saw George Strait there...isn't that crazy? My Mom said she had to stand on a table all night in order to even see him. Meanwhile, Reece Wallace and I were at my house terrorizing the neighborhood. I remember that night like it was yesterday.

[LPFAN]

Sure was....My Mom and Dad went and saw George Strait there...isn't that crazy? My Mom said she had to stand on a table all night in order to even see him. Meanwhile, Reece Wallace and I were at my house terrorizing the neighborhood. I remember that night like it was yesterday.
Shooting fireworks at people or cars or throwing wet toilet paper at cars?

[wide-e-wide]

Shooting fireworks at people or cars or throwing wet toilet paper at cars?


Dude...how did you know that?
No fireworks...but wet toilet paper,eggs and wet biscuits.
I think Pack0808 was there that night too. If not he can vouch...
Our neighborhood got a bit crazy at night. Young and dumb....

[LPFAN]

Dude...how did you know that?
No fireworks...but wet toilet paper,eggs and wet biscuits.
I think Pack0808 was there that night too. If not he can vouch...
Our neighborhood got a bit crazy at night. Young and dumb....
You hit my dang car!!! :mad: No I am just kidding. Man I use to hang with R. Goodman and M. Greening. We did all that mess too.

[wide-e-wide]

You hit my dang car!!! :mad: No I am just kidding. Man I use to hang with R. Goodman and M. Greening. We did all that mess too.

Well if that's the case we probably know each other. I ran with those guys from time to time too. Marvo's neighborhood got a little crazy at night too. But I still give the edge to Allendale/Tanglewood. After all we had R. Jones batting clean-up for us.hahahaha

[LPFAN]

Well if that's the case we probably know each other. I ran with those guys from time to time too. Marvo's neighborhood got a little crazy at night too. But I still give the edge to Allendale/Tanglewood. After all we had R. Jones batting clean-up for us.hahahaha
Jones had his share of terrorizing the Brookhollow area and the loop. Is he still locked up. I know M.G. is. We keep in touch through letters. The one that was a little too crazy was K.D. he would throw rocks at cars. But hey at least he is not locked up and has an honest Job. My son better not do the things I did back then. He will be 13 in Jan. so there could be some tough times ahead. So far he is a better kid then I was. Anyway, are you going to watch the game tomorrow? I hope Lane gets a fair amount of carries and has a good game. I am looking forward to watching it so I can get my fix of H.S. Football to hold me over untill the end of August.

[wide-e-wide]

Yeah, I'm gonna watch it. Do you know if the players will wear their high school helmets? That would be cool to see the train in his Pack hat one more time.

And I'm sure wherever Richard is........he is under constant supervison. And that should make us all feel a bit safer. Some people just never learn.

[pack0808]

without a doubt that was one of the craziest neighborhoods we grew up in. we got into everything. lol i do not care if it was a middle to upper middle neighborhood it was wild. i was a big part of it unfortunately. ;) i mean most of us were not straight out criminals just young and dumb kids having so called fun. you better know how to fight in that neighborhood. at least i am not in jail like most were or are now. lol i have only had over night visits in my young and dumb years. lol by the way wide, the old starlight is where my parents go to church and i go sometimes. it is a huge place!! we left st.cyprians a while back. who are you lpfan??


ok back on subject sorry, lol at the boundaries being the starlight ballroom and the junior college. i hope both javorski and jermichael have big games. it is kind of hard to have big games in all star games though. everybody plays and they do not go to a particular player over and over usually. they try to get everybody involved like it should be in an all star game. hopefully j mike will make it out of town without producing another offsrping. ;)

[wide-e-wide]

Lane and Finley are both starters. And for opposite teams. I bet that has
never happened before huh?
Jamaal Charles scored the first touchdown of the game. And in the sideline interview...I think he was speaking a foreign language....sounded something like..."Talka 'bout uhhhhh Talka 'bout uhhhh...whatchacallit...uhhhh...Vince Young and 'nem...uhhhh The University ...uhhh...state of Texas...."
I have Tivo and hit rewind three times and still have no clue what he said.
Please tell me he's not going to be an English major at UT.

[pack4life]

Jermichael just made that great catch, followed by Jamaal Charles running it in... a sign of things to come? :D

[Texasfrog]

Jermichael just made that great catch, followed by Jamaal Charles running it in... a sign of things to come? :D

J. Finley looks like his going to be a player ! His showing nice balance and some very good hands and a great verticle leap. Heck, he may get some some playing time early at UT. :)

[Texasfrog]

Wow.. about 15 seconds after I posted that last post Finley made a GREAT catch. The kids for real !!! Mack Brown... PLEASE TAKE NOTICE !!!!

[jtk1519]

There have been several Texas recruits shinning here... McCoy, Muckleroy, Finley, Charles, Brown, etc. Muckleroy blew big Javorskie Lane up a few plays ago... knocked him straight back a few yards.

[Texasfrog]

There have been several Texas recruits shinning here... McCoy, Muckleroy, Finley, Charles, Brown, etc. Muckleroy blew big Javorskie Lane up a few plays ago... knocked him straight back a few yards.

Ya, I saw the play where Muckleroy just totally knocked J. Lane flat on his butt. Charles is looking nice with good speed and cutting ability.

I'm still hoping to see somemore highlites out of McCoy.

But,,, Finley has looked the best.

[Texasfrog]

Ok... its a toss up between Charles and Finley !!!

[jtk1519]

Charles and Finley are blowing me away. I dont know what else to say.

[Texasfrog]

Charles and Finley are blowing me away. I dont know what else to say.

Chase Daniels isnt making the SLC program look all that good tonight. I think his had about 3 or 4 turnovers that his personally responsibable for.

[wide-e-wide]

Wow.. about 15 seconds after I posted that last post Finley made a GREAT catch. The kids for real !!! Mack Brown... PLEASE TAKE NOTICE !!!!

The pride of Diboll,Texas. Represent young man....good job.

[jtk1519]

Chase Daniel is really having a tough game.

[Texasfrog]

Chase Daniel is really having a tough game.

I heard he had a really tough game in the Oil Bowl also. Some kids just dont click in All-Star games. I think once he gets to Missouri and gets into the system his going to do very well.

[jtk1519]

I heard he had a really tough game in the Oil Bowl also. Some kids just dont click in All-Star games. I think once he gets to Missouri and gets into the system his going to do very well.

I think the TV guys made a great point when they said that Chase was having a hard time going under center. He is so used to the shotgun from his SLC days that he doesnt really handle being under center well. If I'm not mistaken, Mizzou runs an offense that will put him in the shotgun most of the time so he should feel good in their offense.

[Texasfrog]

Ok.. its 100% official. J. Finley is a super STUD WR. All I can say is DANG !!!

Whooo if he doesnt see alot of Playing time this season at Texas something is WRONG !!!

[Texasfrog]

I think the TV guys made a great point when they said that Chase was having a hard time going under center. He is so used to the shotgun from his SLC days that he doesnt really handle being under center well. If I'm not mistaken, Mizzou runs an offense that will put him in the shotgun most of the time so he should feel good in their offense.

Ya, no doubt that is alot to do with it. The comfort zone isnt there. Brock Berlon (Evangel) was the same thing. He was so use to being in the "gun" at ECA that when he went under-center he was not comfortable at all and it showed bigtime during games.

[wide-e-wide]

Do the announcers not know that J.Lane and J.Finley are brothers?
The have had several opportunities to mention it....and still haven't.

[Texasfrog]

Do the announcers not know that J.Lane and J.Finley are brothers?
The have had several opportunities to mention it....and still haven't.

I'm sure they know.. Jamaal Charles is showing me even more that his the real deal also. His got some special gifts that only come from God.

[LPFAN]

I can't believe the coach has not used Lane more often. Heck even Daniels was telling the coach to use him.

[The Dude]

Chase Daniel has started to come on fire and delivering some very nice accurate passes. Too bad for that holding call. It seemed Daniel was starting to lose his cool and throwing some fits when things weren't going his way, but he's settled down and back in form now. Finley...man I can't even begin to describe how impressed I am with this kid. He has made so many amazing catches, some of them not being ruled as catches, but still the fact that he went up and came down with them was incredible. And I never thought I'd see the day that big ol' Jorvorskie would get put on hit butt. Of course he came back with a viscious stiff arm later(0 yards on the play, but the stiff arm was pretty) I never got to saw Jamaal Charles during the season and all I can say is WOW..I am impressed and this is an all-star game with 1 week of practice. I can't wait to see him running the ball in that burnt orange one day.

I can't believe the coach has not used Lane more often. Heck even Daniels was telling the coach to use him

I completely agree. Lane is a beast and pretty much non existent in this game due to the North Coach's decesions.

[Texasfrog]

Chase Daniel has started to come on fire and delivering some very nice accurate passes. Too bad for that holding call. It seemed Daniel was starting to lose his cool and throwing some fits when things weren't going his way, but he's settled down and back in form now. Finley...man I can't even begin to describe how impressed I am with this kid. He has made so many amazing catches, some of them not being ruled as catches, but still the fact that he went up and came down with them was incredible. And I never thought I'd see the day that big ol' Jorvorskie would get put on hit butt. Of course he came back with a viscious stiff arm later(0 yards on the play, but the stiff arm was pretty) I never got to saw Jamaal Charles during the season and all I can say is WOW..I am impressed and this is an all-star game with 1 week of practice. I can't wait to see him running the ball in that burnt orange one day.

I can't believe the coach has not used Lane more often. Heck even Daniels was telling the coach to use him

I completely agree. Lane is a beast and pretty much non existent in this game due to the North Coach's decesions.

I like to watch All-Stars games for that individual athletic talent on the field. Its fun to watch many of the blue-chips that you dont really get to see much throughout the season.

I'm impressed with the Texas recruits in the game. I know that Texas has taken some hits by the so called "experts" for not really having a big class. But, what Texas did sign is good... VERY GOOD.

I'm impressed with Charles, Finley, Muckelroy and even Colt McCoy has impressed me some. Put those kids with the DT-Roy Miller and it looks good.

Heck, put those kids with this group coming up this season and "look out." :)

All that has to happen now is Mack Brown and Co. need to coach em up.

[jtk1519]

I didnt like the way Colt and Daniel were rotated. Rotating the QBs every series if fine, but they were being roated during a series. That's no good.

BTW, I cant wait to see Colt when he's handing the ball to Jamaal Charles or throwing to Jermichael Finley. I have watched Colt play in the Abilene area for a couple of years now and he is about an outstanding a young man as there is.

Hook 'em Horns.

[SV05champs]

I agree with you on that one. Colt would drive 60+ yards and have it all clicking, then they would put Daniel in. He converted the TD on one, but didnt on the other and Colt came back in. Colt is also one heck of a player. I argued that point from day one of last season. I think he is the best in Tx at the position in that class. Just didnt get the media attention that others got. He got to show that tonight.



I didnt like the way Colt and Daniel were rotated. Rotating the QBs every series if fine, but they were being roated during a series. That's no good.

BTW, I cant wait to see Colt when he's handing the ball to Jamaal Charles or throwing to Jermichael Finley. I have watched Colt play in the Abilene area for a couple of years now and he is about an outstanding a young man as there is.

Hook 'em Horns.

[Rerun]

It sucked that Wilkerson from Clark could not play in front of his hime crowd here in San Antonio.

He was on the team but was kicked off after leaving where the South Team was staying on Saturday night for a family emergency.

[StormingCowboy]

javorski lane will be representing the north and his brother jemichael finley will be representing the south?? how can that be?? diboll is only 10 miles south of lufkin. you would think they would be on the same team?? they will definitely be on different teams come this fall with one at texas and the other at a&m.


Lufkin plays in Region 2 which is considered a "North" region.

What Region is Diboll in?

[RPM]

valley style..we had 2 players for the south and both did pretty dam good...

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[RPM]

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[pack0808]

Do the announcers not know that J.Lane and J.Finley are brothers?
The have had several opportunities to mention it....and still haven't.


nobody mentions they are brother's, even the lufkin area media and i think this is why wide!! j lane does not even list him as his brother in the lufkin program. they have different mom's and grew up in different households and i guess they never have really acknowledged it. i think the media is just trying to respect that. i am sure it will come out in college because a story is a story when you get to the higher levels if both of these guys are standouts at a&m and texas. now all of you know why lufkin fans were very dissappointed when j mike moved right down the road to diboll with his grandma. he would have added a whole other dimension to the lufkin offense and defense. he was just as good as a safety. he is a scary specimen that i have been bragging about for years in this site now. you just saw a little taste of what he is capable of doing. he was a top notch basketball player also that had scholarships all over for that too. he was originally going to arizona to play basketball before changing his mind. he has one of the top vertical leaps in the united states to go along with that 6'5 frame. on j lane, he had only 4 carries but he managed to still get 34 yards for 8 yards a carry. on the hit where j lane was landed on his hind end. i have never seen that happened before. i think it shocked him!! the linebacker was coming on a full out blitz and had all of the momentum and knocked lane down. if it was the other way around and lane had the momentum it would have been a different story. i knew he was going to try to get some revenge on somebody if he got the ball again and he did. on a run on the goal line he basically knocked a guy 2ft in the air with a stiff arm. he did not gain any yards on the play but he sure desroyed that tackler.

[pack0808]

Lane and Finley are both starters. And for opposite teams. I bet that has
never happened before huh?
Jamaal Charles scored the first touchdown of the game. And in the sideline interview...I think he was speaking a foreign language....sounded something like..."Talka 'bout uhhhhh Talka 'bout uhhhh...whatchacallit...uhhhh...Vince Young and 'nem...uhhhh The University ...uhhh...state of Texas...."
I have Tivo and hit rewind three times and still have no clue what he said.
Please tell me he's not going to be an English major at UT.



lol wide. i called my dad after that and we both said the same thing. i was like what the heck did he say?? i guess great football players at texas do not need great verbal skills. especially at texas where the graduation rate for athletes is one of the worst in div1a. i am sorry i could not help it wide. ;) you know i just like to tease you.

[The Dude]

haha seriously I really feel bad for the kid's friends. I wonder if they've learned to understand him because I sure as heck had NO idea what he was saying everytime. And wooo wee he ain't exactly the prettiest of people with all the gaps in all his teeth. But he sure is an amazing ball player so you gotta give it to him.

[raidercheerdad]

haha seriously I really feel bad for the kid's friends. I wonder if they've learned to understand him because I sure as heck had NO idea what he was saying everytime. And wooo wee he ain't exactly the prettiest of people with all the gaps in all his teeth. But he sure is an amazing ball player so you gotta give it to him.Not all of Fat Albert's friend's had the best verbage, either. Are all these recruits already past the grade and entrance exam part of this deal????? LOL

[LPFAN]

nobody mentions they are brother's, even the lufkin area media and i think this is why wide!! j lane does not even list him as his brother in the lufkin program. they have different mom's and grew up in different households and i guess they never have really acknowledged it. i think the media is just trying to respect that. i am sure it will come out in college because a story is a story when you get to the higher levels if both of these guys are standouts at a&m and texas. now all of you know why lufkin fans were very dissappointed when j mike moved right down the road to diboll with his grandma. he would have added a whole other dimension to the lufkin offense and defense. he was just as good as a safety. he is a scary specimen that i have been bragging about for years in this site now. you just saw a little taste of what he is capable of doing. he was a top notch basketball player also that had scholarships all over for that too. he was originally going to arizona to play basketball before changing his mind. he has one of the top vertical leaps in the united states to go along with that 6'5 frame. on j lane, he had only 4 carries but he managed to still get 34 yards for 8 yards a carry. on the hit where j lane was landed on his hind end. i have never seen that happened before. i think it shocked him!! the linebacker was coming on a full out blitz and had all of the momentum and knocked lane down. if it was the other way around and lane had the momentum it would have been a different story. i knew he was going to try to get some revenge on somebody if he got the ball again and he did. on a run on the goal line he basically knocked a guy 2ft in the air with a stiff arm. he did not gain any yards on the play but he sure desroyed that tackler.
KTRE has run at least 2 stories on Javorskie and JerMichael. They have a little brother that was also on one of the stories. In one story they had both of them together and Javorskie asked JerMichael "What would it take to get you to come to A&M?" Then just the other day they did an interview with Javorskie and he talked about playing against his brother in the All Star Game. Anyway I am not a football coach but I think the North coach messed up by not utilizing Lane more often. I was very disappointed. I didn't expect him to get 25+ carries but at least 15 would have been nice. His brother looked good though. I am sure Texas fans were happy to see what they were getting.

[wide-e-wide]

Lufkin plays in Region 2 which is considered a "North" region.

What Region is Diboll in?

Diboll is class 3a and is about 5 minutes away from Lufkin. For them to be South and Lufkin North....is a bit confusing.

[wide-e-wide]

lol wide. i called my dad after that and we both said the same thing. i was like what the heck did he say?? i guess great football players at texas do not need great verbal skills. especially at texas where the graduation rate for athletes is one of the worst in div1a. i am sorry i could not help it wide. ;) you know i just like to tease you.

It was like football's version of Sammy saying "Basebole been beddy,beddy good to me"...on Jamaal is American...what gives?

[LPFAN]

It was like football's version of Sammy saying "Basebole been beddy,beddy good to me"...on Jamaal is American...what gives?
My son and I were trying to figure out what he was saying too. Hey at least he looked like he was happy and having fun. We had a hard time figuring out what he was saying just like the opposing defense had a hard time figuring out which direction he was going. He was shaking alot of the defenders. While having good verbal skills is important that does not make someone a better human being. Just because I have good verbal skills does not put me above someone who does not. But hopefully his will improve over the years as he matures. I am sure they will.

[ktchamp97]

Crap, you guys are just cruel. Give the kid a break. The first interview was hard to understand, but he seemed quite nervous and out of breath. The second one was much better and I had no trouble understanding what he said.

In case you actually care...He said that the coaches told them if they work hard in practice it will show up in the game and that he and J-Mike just did what they did all week in practice. In response to "Was it that easy for you guys?" He said, "It was kinda easy, we just made it look easy." He closed by saying, "Whassup everybody in PA?"

By all accounts he is a quiet guy and a good kid. If most of us were thrown in front of a camera on a live interview after we'd just scored a TD, I'm sure we'd stumble over our words and not sound as intelligent as we actually are. On top of that, you can't always judge intelligence by how someone speaks. I've known people who talk a big game, but actually know very little.

And, yes, he has already cleared all entrance requirements.

[dragonsdaddy]

tu has had another all-star rb with questionable verbal skills and he did ok for himself- the tyler rose. jamaal has some high stepping to match earl's feats, but he's on the right path so far.

[wide-e-wide]

Wow...without Ktchamp taking those classes in advanced mumbleze...we would still be lost. Good lookin' out kt...thanks. Only one thing...you left out the 5+10 ummmms and the 3 or so "know-I'm-sayin's" (no actually we don't know what your saying)

My Dad always told me ....the first part of being a winner is sounding and looking like a winner. I totally agree.

He's a Horn now....by God act like it and talk like it. Don't embarrass yourself,your team, or your school...by sounding like "mush-mouth" And take those ridiculous band-aids off of your ears---(not a big fan of the bling-bling)

aggy already calls our quarterback "Radio" ...this is all we need.

And for the record....when you do "Hook 'em horns" tuck your freakin' thumb in. Your not at a Judas Priest concert.

Now, I feel much better.

[ktchamp97]

Lol, wideman, glad you feel better, haha.

The jerks who call Vince "Radio," poking at the fact that they think he's ******** are missing the true and striking irony that the joke is actually on them. The real "Radio" is a much better person than any of those people ever will be.

They're also missing the fact that Vince was an honor roll student in high school and he's on the Academic All-Big 12 team and needs just 43 hours to complete his degree.

[LPFAN]

Wow...without Ktchamp taking those classes in advanced mumbleze...we would still be lost. Good lookin' out kt...thanks. Only one thing...you left out the 5+10 ummmms and the 3 or so "know-I'm-sayin's" (no actually we don't know what your saying)

My Dad always told me ....the first part of being a winner is sounding and looking like a winner. I totally agree.

He's a Horn now....by God act like it and talk like it. Don't embarrass yourself,your team, or your school...by sounding like "mush-mouth" And take those ridiculous band-aids off of your ears---(not a big fan of the bling-bling)

aggy already calls our quarterback "Radio" ...this is all we need.

And for the record....when you do "Hook 'em horns" tuck your freakin' thumb in. Your not at a Judas Priest concert.

Now, I feel much better.
Man you can be cruel. Funny but cruel. I am not going to say that this is not funny because it is. But it is still cruel. I must be a messed up human being to be able to laugh at something like that and then feel bad for the person that this is referring to. I am sure Jamaal's verbal skills will improve though. So are you going to make any of the Lufkin games this year? And what was your take on Lane being used so little last night? Am I the only one that was disappointed about that?

[wide-e-wide]

Yeah and Vince is much quicker without that shopping cart slowing him down isn't he? hahaha...
Keep yuckin' it up aggy...Cuba is coming at you again this year...and he might even have "mushmouth" in the backfield.
I promise you.......aggy is ALL over this. And quite frankly I don't blame them.
If Reggie did a sideline interview and sounded like Bob Dylan and Flavor Flav's love child....I would be ALL over him too.

Sadly, 4 years of college probably won't help. Anybody heard the James Brown (former UT QB, not the Godfather of soul...although their speech is quite similar) radio commercial for Lumbermax.com...Good Lord...somebody please tell him to stop it!

[wide-e-wide]

Man you can be cruel. Funny but cruel. I am not going to say that this is not funny because it is. But it is still cruel. I must be a messed up human being to be able to laugh at something like that and then feel bad for the person that this is referring to. I am sure Jamaal's verbal skills will improve though. So are you going to make any of the Lufkin games this year? And what was your take on Lane being used so little last night? Am I the only one that was disappointed about that?

I was upset as well. I think it had a lot do with the fact that the coaches didn't know what capacity to use him in. He is unique to say the least. And with just one week of practice...they probably didn't know exactly how to use him. I was waiting for the fake snap to Chase and Javorskie running...or maybe even throwing it downfield.

Yes...I will make at least one regular season game....and if my luck is as good as it was last season...The playoff games will be in my backyard. Man...that was lovely. I'm about 5 minutes away from WISD and 10 away from Floyd Casey.

[ktchamp97]

Yeah and Vince is much quicker without that shopping cart slowing him down isn't he? hahaha...
Keep yuckin' it up aggy...Cuba is coming at you again this year...and he might even have "mushmouth" in the backfield.
I promise you.......aggy is ALL over this. And quite frankly I don't blame them.
If Reggie did a sideline interview and sounded like Bob Dylan and Flavor Flav's love child....I would be ALL over him too.

Sadly, 4 years of college probably won't help. Anybody heard the James Brown (former UT QB, not the Godfather of soul...although their speech is quite similar) radio commercial for Lumbermax.com...Good Lord...somebody please tell him to stop it!

Yes, the Aggies are all over this...and I think it's plain wrong and classless...I think I've made that pretty clear...

However, wide, that was some of the funniest crap you've ever posted. Wrong, but still funny...my goodness...:D

[eagleike]

Right, wide-e-wide is a real funny a-hole.

[wide-e-wide]

Right, wide-e-wide is a real funny a-hole.

Now that is quite possibly the best compliment I have received in ages.

Funny how?...you mean funny like a clown?...funny like I'm here to amuse you?...tell me...I really wanna know...funny like ha-ha....how the (bleep) am I funny?
(Raising beer up high...saluting Joe Pesci...one the greatest make belief gangsters ever) Kno'I'msayin' ?

[Rerun]

Now that is quite possibly the best compliment I have received in ages.

Funny how?...you mean funny like a clown?...funny like I'm here to amuse you?...tell me...I really wanna know...funny like ha-ha....how the (bleep) am I funny?
(Raising beer up high...saluting Joe Pesci...one the greatest make belief gangsters ever) Kno'I'msayin' ?

LONESTAR?!?!?!?!???

[LPFAN]

LONESTAR?!?!?!?!???
Needs to be a Shiner Bock!!!

[wide-e-wide]

LONESTAR?!?!?!?!???

Negative...
It's a well known fact that ol' wide-e has a weakness for the cerveza...
It's never been discussed whether or not I drink horse urine.
Just so you'll know.............I don't.
More power to you brother...that's just more Miller Lite for me.hahahaha

[theONE]

Hope the Mizzou staff is a better judge of character then I... Because I just saw Chase Daniel lose his temper and lose much of his game. It's funny when you start seeing a player perform as he did. It's not how you act when you are winning or up, but how you act under pressure and adversity... I'm sad to say, the kid has no heart.

[SV05champs]

Good post buddy! My sister cant talk at all, and she was first in a class of 600. Its true that you cant judge people on that kind of stuff. If he got into college, which he did, then he must be smart... I would have done just as bad after running all over a football field, with the jitters of being on TV... But I loved the wssup PA!


Crap, you guys are just cruel. Give the kid a break. The first interview was hard to understand, but he seemed quite nervous and out of breath. The second one was much better and I had no trouble understanding what he said.

In case you actually care...He said that the coaches told them if they work hard in practice it will show up in the game and that he and J-Mike just did what they did all week in practice. In response to "Was it that easy for you guys?" He said, "It was kinda easy, we just made it look easy." He closed by saying, "Whassup everybody in PA?"

By all accounts he is a quiet guy and a good kid. If most of us were thrown in front of a camera on a live interview after we'd just scored a TD, I'm sure we'd stumble over our words and not sound as intelligent as we actually are. On top of that, you can't always judge intelligence by how someone speaks. I've known people who talk a big game, but actually know very little.

And, yes, he has already cleared all entrance requirements.

[SV05champs]

What if you are deaf/mute? Does that make you a loser? Oh BTW, did your mamma tell you that life is like a box of chocolate, you never know what your going to get, as well?



"My Dad always told me ....the first part of being a winner is sounding and looking like a winner. I totally agree."

[dragonsdaddy]

Hope the Mizzou staff is a better judge of character then I... Because I just saw Chase Daniel lose his temper and lose much of his game. It's funny when you start seeing a player perform as he did. It's not how you act when you are winning or up, but how you act under pressure and adversity... I'm sad to say, the kid has no heart.
he sure got lucky to fall off that turnip truck 32 times and land on his feet 31 of them. you, my good man(and i use the term good in the loosest possible sense) are clueless. to think that all you needed to make that call was a less than meaningless all-star game.

speaking of meaningless, i hope the young man who got hurt early in the game is ok. i can't think of anything sadder than an injury in a game of this import.

[SV05champs]

Mizzou knows what they are getting. He did the same stuff in the state game against SV when things didnt go his way. I am sure they watched that..


Hope the Mizzou staff is a better judge of character then I... Because I just saw Chase Daniel lose his temper and lose much of his game. It's funny when you start seeing a player perform as he did. It's not how you act when you are winning or up, but how you act under pressure and adversity... I'm sad to say, the kid has no heart.

[Favpack]

Just getting in on this -- I thought Colt McCoy looked really good - strong arm and quick. Finley was awesome - though I only caught it on tape - I missed much of the first half. I'm happy for both of those non 5A kids - they really belong.

Charles looked awesome - he may start next year at UT - who knows. I thought Chase Daniel had a really solid second half - the TD pass called back was beautiful - that could have changed the entire ending if they get that score. As I stated I missed must of the first half - if Chase was off - I'd bet it was mis-communication as much as anything.

You smack-talking youngsters need to go get a summer job sacking groceries or something - you got wayyyyy too much time and energy on your hands.

[ktchamp97]

Yes, back to the actual game...

Finley was incredible. That was the first time I've seen him play and I was very impressed. I know he lacks prototypical WR speed, but I would give him a shot at WR. He could be similar to a Mike Williams.

Chase did not have his best night, although he threw some great balls. I've seen him enough to believe he'll do just fine at Mizzou.

Jamaal Charles was himself...I was glad he got to do his thing.

Howard Morrow was impressive too. He'll be a very good player for the Aggies.

Emmanuel Sanders quietly had one of the best showings of any of them. He showed some nice ability on offense and he pretty much shut Morrow down on D.

Chris Brown was a terror off the edge. Whether at OLB or DE, he could be special for the Horns.

Last but not least, Colt McCoy looked good too. He didn't throw the hardest, prettiest ball, but he was on target and showed good mobility and decision making. He reminds me of 'Opie'...with wheels.

[jtk1519]

Finley is something to really get excited about if you are a Longhorn fan. He doesnt have to have high end speed because he is so big. He was listed at 6'5 220 and his leaping ability is incredible. You can probably expect him to put on another 10-20 pounds in college. Remember that he was recruited as a TE, but is probably more of a "tweener" like David Thomas... a smaller TE with great receiving ability. I wouldnt be surprised at all to see Finley lined up at TE from time to time and also split out wide. He's just a phenominal athlete.

I was very pleased to see Colt play the way he did. The big knock on thsi kid was that he came from a 2A school, but I think Colt proved he can play with the big boys. You have to remember that Colt is the all time leading passer in 2a and one of the top passer in the history of Texas high school football. If he had played at a 4A or 5A school, he probably would have been a very high 4 star or 5 star recruit and one of the top QB recruits in the nation. He compares very favorably to Graham Harrell from Ennis who is now at Texas Tech. Both are in the neighborhood of 6'2 190 with good mobility and very good arms. Both put up incredible numbers and both should do very well at their respective schools.

Here's a quick highlight video of the game...

http://www2.mysanantonio.com/multimedia/video/VideoPlayer/playvideo.cfm?action=view&skintop=display/dsp_top.cfm&skinbottom=display/dsp_bottom.cfm&type=nod&ids=31563&play=1&format=WMV

[wide-e-wide]

What if you are deaf/mute? Does that make you a loser? Oh BTW, did your mamma tell you that life is like a box of chocolate, you never know what your going to get, as well?



"My Dad always told me ....the first part of being a winner is sounding and looking like a winner. I totally agree."

I will only say this once. Leave my Mama out of this and any other post on this board. I WILL cuss you the (bleep) out and get banned from the site and not regret it. Are we clear jackass?

[Rerun]

I will only say this once. Leave my Mama out of this and any other post on this board. I WILL cuss you the (bleep) out and get banned from the site and not regret it. Are we clear jackass?

He isnt joking.

He nearly had an episode when I had a reference to the confederate flag in my signature.

One can only imagine if it was about his mother.

Better take his advice.

[Texasfrog]

Good post buddy! My sister cant talk at all, and she was first in a class of 600. Its true that you cant judge people on that kind of stuff. If he got into college, which he did, then he must be smart... I would have done just as bad after running all over a football field, with the jitters of being on TV... But I loved the wssup PA!

Most of the posters on this website are fooling themselves badly about this speech stuff. If they were 17 or 18 years old again and put on TV in front of millions of viewers.. They would of been choking all over the place also. :)

PS. I remember watching Patrick Ewing when he was a college star at Georgetown. They would interview him after the college games and the guy couldnt say freaking 2 words. Now, his a 40 something year old man and he speaks pretty darn good. You wouldnt even think its the same person 20 years later.

Bo Jackson used to be pretty bad also in the speech area when he was at Auburn. He speaks pretty good now also as a 40 years old man.

[wide-e-wide]

He isnt joking.

He nearly had an episode when I had a reference to the confederate flag in my signature.

One can only imagine if it was about his mother.

Better take his advice.

Most of what I said about Jamaal was said as a joke. However, I do hope that he learns to speak to the press in a more professional manner. It was embarassing, for me as a Longhorns fan...and I'm positive I wasn't the only 'Horns fan that felt that way.

At 31, I reflect back on a lot of stuff my Dad said to me as a youngster...that I let go in one ear and out the other...and I regret being so hard-headed and stupid. But even at 30+ years old, I will still go the (bleep) off when someone starts taking shots at my Mama. It ain't cool...I've done it before and it is the lowest of low blows. And I should never have sunk that low. Where I'm from it's a good way to find yourself in a dentist's office.

Actually, what my Mama always said was "Silence is the perfect substitute for intelligence." Meaning if you don't know what you are talking about...shut up and you might learn something.

[SV05champs]

Wow, you will cuss me? Like I care if you get banned from this site. Your mom said to please tell you to stop talking smack by the way... Dont call me names either, she said.


I will only say this once. Leave my Mama out of this and any other post on this board. I WILL cuss you the (bleep) out and get banned from the site and not regret it. Are we clear jackass?

[SV05champs]

Dont forget Ricky Williams, GREAT player, VERY smart, looks to be dumb as a box of rocks in interviews, however that is not the case. Some just are not good in front of a camera, some, like Ricky may have anxiety..


Most of the posters on this website are fooling themselves badly about this speech stuff. If they were 17 or 18 years old again and put on TV in front of millions of viewers.. They would of been choking all over the place also. :)

PS. I remember watching Patrick Ewing when he was a college star at Georgetown. They would interview him after the college games and the guy couldnt say freaking 2 words. Now, his a 40 something year old man and he speaks pretty darn good. You wouldnt even think its the same person 20 years later.

Bo Jackson used to be pretty bad also in the speech area when he was at Auburn. He speaks pretty good now also as a 40 years old man.

[dragonsdaddy]

another helpful hint from the wiser generation- tis better to keep quiet a have others suspect you of being ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[wide-e-wide]

Bad example...Patrick Ewing is from another country. And Bo Jackson had and STILL suffers from a severe stuttering problem.

Having a speech problem or being from a country where English isn't your first language is one thing.
And saying "ummmmmm" and "kno'I'msayin'" over and over is another. And under no circumstance is it acceptable to say " the ummmmm State of....
ummmm University....ummmm State of Texas" Huh?
How hard is it to say UT?
That's not even two words. Just two letters...

[wide-e-wide]

Wow, you will cuss me? Like I care if you get banned from this site. Your mom said to please tell you to stop talking smack by the way... Dont call me names either, she said.

Let me tell you something you snot-nosed little communist heathen.
If my Mama told anybody to shut up it would be your little arrogant ***.
Don't start a battle of who can be the biggest smart@ with me. I assure you ...you will fail miserably. The Mama stuff is not cool dude. Stop it...

[Texasfrog]

Bad example...Patrick Ewing is from another country. And Bo Jackson had and STILL suffers from a severe stuttering problem.

Having a speech problem or being from a country where English isn't your first language is one thing.
And saying "ummmmmm" and "kno'I'msayin'" over and over is another. And under no circumstance is it acceptable to say " the ummmmm State of....
ummmm University....ummmm State of Texas" Huh?
How hard is it to say UT?
That's not even two words. Just two letters...

Haha, that's funny. Give the "KID" a break. He did say , " hey P.A." pretty darn good.

Patrick Ewing lived in New York for about 5 or 6 years before he played at Georgetown. The guy could speak English. I guess you could call it english.

Bo Jackson did have a stuttering problem. But, there was more there then just that.

There is alot of players in college and ect that dont speak very good. I cant slam on the guy or anyone because there speaking ability isnt top notch. Shoot man, I've seen 15 year old kids that couldnt spell their name right (NOT KIDDING)..

Anyway, lets watch the kid over the next few years. Something tells me that his speaking ability is going to go light years while at UT. :)

[wide-e-wide]

Enough said Frog. I just had to say something about it. Don't think for a second you can come on my television and say "ummmm" that many times and I'll just let you make it. I have to call anybody out for that. Even a Longhorn. And compared to what they are saying on the 2 Longhorn message boards I visited....my comments were very mild. He'll be fine I'm sure. But in the meantime...keep him away from 'Lil John and Dikembe Mutumbo they can only perpetuate the problem. "Yeeeeeeeeeeeah!!"

[SV05champs]

:p ummmmmm. Im here to talk football, not play this ummmmmm. 6th grade game. Did you or did you not say you were like ummmmmmm. 31 or something? Communist??? Battle??? "Stop it"???? LOL. I was just wanting to see if ummmmmm. you really would boot yourself. I guess ummmmmmmm. it would not matter cause you could just get a free Yahoo e-mail and ummmmmmm. sign up again. You win I lose, I dont have the ummmmmmmm. time. Its just sad that you ummmmmmmm. can make rude comments about a 18 year old kid, but cant ummmmmmmm. take heat yourself. The first comment had ummmmmmmm. 0% disrespect for your mama. The second ummmmmmmm. got a bit worse I admit If you want a 3rd, give me an e-mail and ummmmmmm. you will get it. I would rather not take this sites space up with worthless ummmmmmm. crap. But I will be happy to dis your mama ummmmmmmm. via e-mail. ummmmmm. Later. :rolleyes:

WHATS UP P.A. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did I say too many ummmmm's for you buddy? That must make me stupid :(



Let me tell you something you snot-nosed little communist heathen.
If my Mama told anybody to shut up it would be your little arrogant ***.
Don't start a battle of who can be the biggest smart@ with me. I assure you ...you will fail miserably. The Mama stuff is not cool dude. Stop it...

[ktchamp97]

I would rather not take this sites space up with worthless ummmmmmm. crap

That would be much appreciated.

I would ask anyone reading this to please, if you get into a personal back and forth with another poster, take it to Private Messages...that's what it's there for.

Stuff like the above post will be deleted in the future.

[lonny23]

You guys can make fun of me all you want for saying this, but I'm going to say it anyway. I can look at people's eyes and how they carry themselves and tell a lot about their character.

Chase Daniel does not have what it takes to be a great college QB or a pro QB for that matter. You can look at his eyes and facial expressions and see the hot-headedness and cockiness he takes into each game. He looks good as long as he's winning, but he doesn't have the demeanor to win a lot of games from behind or pull through when times are tough.

Guys, I don't have any bones to pick or axes to grind. It's nothing against SLC, but I do have to tell you what I see in the boy and my character judgments about people have proven to be correct most of the time. Yes, I saw him lose his cool several times in the state title game in 2004, but my thoughts about him were formed before that game. All I needed to do was see pictures of him in Texas Football last year. With his demeanor, he's better suited to play LB than QB. It works the same way with women. You can always look at a woman and see if she has a real temper/controlling problem.

[LeanderLions3033]

Not trying to knock Daniel, but from what i saw tonighit as far as accuracy, temper, and leading a team by example (not by natural ability) i'll let Mizzou have Daniel and i'll gladly accept Colt McCoy. He looked like the more impressive qb. And I was very impressed with all the UT committs, especially Chris Brown, Jamaal Charles (impressed with his ability to play the game of football anyway :D ), Jerimichael Finley, Roddrick Muckerlory, and Colt McCoy. Howard Morrow, the aggie commit from Keller Fossil Ridge impressed me as well.

[jtk1519]

Chase has never really had to deal with losing. He will have to learn how to deal with it at Mizzou and it will be very interesting to see how he does. I personally think he has all the physical tools, but his mental and leaderships skills will be put to the test a program like Mizzou. I hope he does well, but I do thing it will be hard on him.

[mtbray]

I personally could understand Jamaal Charles fine (being from Garland and in college) but I'd also agree he doesn't exactly represent the University the way I would like to see. It appeared that in his gaze there wasn't anybody home upstairs :D


I can't wait to see what these guys can do in the years to come! :cool:

[Shoot2thrill]

Actually, what my Mama always said was "Silence is the perfect substitute for intelligence." Meaning if you don't know what you are talking about...shut up and you might learn something.

It sounds like your beloved Mama dispensed a lot of wisdom. I wish more people would heed advice like the above. :cool:

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

MVP Charles sparks South to win
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By Larry Bodin - The News Sports Correspondent Posted: 07/27/05 - 11:10:47 pm CDT

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Courtesy photo by Alan Pearson Jamaal Charles celebrates after scoring another touchdown for the South


SAN ANTONIO - Throughout their careers, Memorial all-America running back Jamaal Charles and Nederland quarterback Dustin Hood always stood head and shoulders above the rest.

On the Alamodome turf here Tuesday night in the Texas High School Coaches Association North-South all-star football game, Charles and Hood provided many of the same fireworks Golden Triangle fans have watched for three seasons as the pair helped the South all-stars knock off the North, 37-21.

In accepting his Offensive MVP award, the same award Joe Washington, Jr. won some 23 seasons ago in this game, Charles said he's, "looking forward to the next step in his career."

Charles, who displayed the razzle and dazzle Southeast Texas fans have come to expect from him every time out, ran for touchdowns of one and seven yards, and helped make a Golden Triangle highlight film on a 31-yard TD strike from Nederland's Hood.

Headed for Austin and the University of Texas in two weeks, Charles raced for 105 yards on just 20 carries against a defense that was stacked up to stop the run. He also caught two passes of three and 31 yards and returned a pair of punts for seven and 11 yards. Although Charles was the deep back on kickoff returns, the North team feared his breakaway talents so much it pooch-kicked every kickoff.


"I know when I play against better players, I play better," he said. "I just come out every time and play my hardest and help give me team a chance to win."

While Charles' expected "big-time" college career begins in earnest in a couple of weeks, Nederland's Hood closed out his football career in tremendous fashion.

Hood, a standout two-sport star at Nederland, will take the baseball route in college as he heads to Wake Forest in two weeks.

Completing 10-14 passes for 133 yards and the dazzling 31-yard pitch to Charles in the first half, Hood said he'll never ever forget the experience he's had over the past couple of days.

"I knew it was gonna be my last football game and I got that TD pass to Jamaal, which was a special memory," Hood noted. "The entire experience was great. When we got here last week, we didn't know what to expect. But we've all become great friends. It'll be really fun to watch these guys on Saturday college football games on TV. And I'm sure some will also get to the NFL."

The Nederland standout said making "this team was a great honor and I'll remember it forever. Some day I can tell my kids and my grandkids what a great experience it was. Being around these guys has made me a better person."

One man who had the best seat in the house in watching a talent such as Charles perform for an extended period was South head coach Lee Bridges.

"I've coached two great backs here in San Antonio that I thought were phenomenal - Robert Merrell (TCU) and Jacoby Scott, who just graduated, But Jamaal is everything they are and a little bit more," Bridges exclaimed.

"He and Dustin are really great kids and were a pleasure to work with."

Bridges noted that Charles' speed and quickness is as good as it gets. "He is SO fast and quick. And he's really a big kid (6-1, 194), even though he doesn't look that big."

The South mentor said, "Texas has a kid that can really fly, is tough as nails, and is very unselfish. "I really feel he's a kid we'll be watching on Sundays in a few years."

Bridges also praised the work of Hood at quarterback. "Dustin really did a good job and I'm so proud of him. He's a very intelligent athlete and I told him I'll be following his baseball career on the Internet."

[dragonsdaddy]

I can look at people's eyes and how they carry themselves and tell a lot about their character.

Chase Daniel does not have what it takes to be a great college QB or a pro QB for that matter. You can look at his eyes and facial expressions and see the hot-headedness and cockiness he takes into each game. He looks good as long as he's winning, but he doesn't have the demeanor to win a lot of games from behind or pull through when times are tough.


lonny, don't give up your day job. you'll need it to get the fifty cents with which you'll want to combine your opinion so as to get your morning joe. i've never thought putting up with losing is a quality to be admired in a qb, or any ball player for that matter. dealing with adversity is important and i'm assuming you mean that since chase only lost 1 game in 3 years, the other 47 were beds of petunias. anyone who watched the l monty game or even his worst game overall, the sv game, saw a kid who could have spit the bit, but didn't. instead he took the load and hauled it to the promised land. all you hosers and shade tree sports psychologists need to glance in the mirror periodically and see if there's a teenager in there who has flaws and weaknesses just like the rest of the populace, yet proceeded to win more games in 2 years than any 5a qb has ever won, on bigger stages, with more pressure and more vocal detractors. will he be successful at mizzou? time will tell. will they go 47-1 under his reins? i doubt it. will he get used to losing and thus disintegrate into a sobbing mass of blubber. not likely. will the hacks on here still be typing out valuable opinions based on some unfathomable ability to look into peoples eyes through a tv screen and pass judgement on that person's depth of character. indubitably. until the last nail is hammered into his coffin, i'm sure we'll keep being flushed upon by mr wizard.

[SV05champs]

agreed. I dont like the way SLC does things sometimes but that is beside the point. I still think Colt is a better all around QB out of all 5 divisions, but Chase was the best in 5A. I cant look in his eyes and tell you anything about him. What I see, is on the field. There ARE times when he throws a little fit every now and then when things dont go his way. The other 98% of the time he is a great QB. Most kids his age do not understand that that game was going to be different than any prior games. The timing would be off, you may forget someones name on your team, you have to be swiched out to allow playing time to others (even during a series). All kinds of crazy changes from what you are used to. He will do fine at Mizzu, and he will get rid of that attitude which will help him more than anyone. Its one thing to have a want to win, its another to show too much emotion when your not.





lonny, don't give up your day job. you'll need it to get the fifty cents with which you'll want to combine your opinion so as to get your morning joe. i've never thought putting up with losing is a quality to be admired in a qb, or any ball player for that matter. dealing with adversity is important and i'm assuming you mean that since chase only lost 1 game in 3 years, the other 47 were beds of petunias. anyone who watched the l monty game or even his worst game overall, the sv game, saw a kid who could have spit the bit, but didn't. instead he took the load and hauled it to the promised land. all you hosers and shade tree sports psychologists need to glance in the mirror periodically and see if there's a teenager in there who has flaws and weaknesses just like the rest of the populace, yet proceeded to win more games in 2 years than any 5a qb has ever won, on bigger stages, with more pressure and more vocal detractors. will he be successful at mizzou? time will tell. will they go 47-1 under his reins? i doubt it. will he get used to losing and thus disintegrate into a sobbing mass of blubber. not likely. will the hacks on here still be typing out valuable opinions based on some unfathomable ability to look into peoples eyes through a tv screen and pass judgement on that person's depth of character. indubitably. until the last nail is hammered into his coffin, i'm sure we'll keep being flushed upon by mr wizard.

[pack0808]

man, this thread blew up real quick. chase daniel was by far the better looking qb to me. much better arm and accuracy and athletic ability no matter what the stats were for this pointless all star game. he will be a success in college. he reminds me a lot of drew tate with his skills and his competitive attitude. we all know what drew tate has done so far and we heard all of his critics on his size and attitude. i was impressed with his sideline interview and i was impressed with his competiveness. it seems somebody is always trying to run down slc athletes and i think a lot of that is jealousy. i am not a slc fan at all as everybody knows and slc has broken my panther's heart twice in the state semis in close games in 2002 and 2004 but i respect them tremendously. hey lpfan i believe you about the ktre news stories on javorski and jermichael but i have never personally heard it mentioned. jermichael 40 time has been low as 4.5 that is not slow at all for a 6'5 220 pounder. he does not have world class speed but he is not slow. i bet he is much faster then michael irvin was and that is who he kind of reminds me of. jermichael leaping ability is absolutely amazing!! he can just flat get up. i watched him play basketball a few times and he is the quickest jumper i have every personally seen live.


on the jamall charles thing. first of all, i have been interviewed on tv many times when i was 18 and 19 and i would be a little concerned if i sounded like that and i would work on it. does it mean he is not a good guy?? no!! he can learn to develop better verbal skills as he gets more comfortable. i have to admit he does give off the perception of being a thug. reggie did not sound great in interviews his freshmen year either. he has improved his talking skill's tremendously since then. a lot of it has to do with being nervous and not being used to doing interviews. i know, it is taboo to judge or talk bad about an 18 year old kid in this politically correct world but i am sorry folks people do judge how you speak and look. that is just a fact!! who said ricky sounds bad when talking?? ricky williams is very well spoken even though his actions are odd. either way, you do not have to be a genius to get into college and you do not have to be a genius to be a great athlete. we all have our strengths and weaknesses and it is easier to judge then to be judged. in fact, texas is at the bottom when it comes to graduating athletes.

hey wide, you know i always got your back just like back in the days but getting into personal spats on the net is not worth it. i have had my share by the way!! lol you are very opinionated like me so you are always going to have some that disagree with you. i used to would want to track them down when they got personal but now i just make my point and let them make their point and move on. lol i just agree to disagree while giving them a few shots along the way and let it go. ;)

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

on the jamall charles thing. first of all, i have been interviewed on tv many times when i was 18 and 19 and i would be a little concerned if i sounded like that and i would work on it. does it mean he is not a good guy?? no!! he can learn to develop better verbal skills as he gets more comfortable. i have to admit he does give off the perception of being a thug. reggie did not sound great in interviews his freshmen year either. he has improved his talking skill's tremendously since then. a lot of it has to do with being nervous and not being used to doing interviews. i know, it is taboo to judge or talk bad about an 18 year old kid in this politically correct world but i am sorry folks people do judge how you speak and look. that is just a fact!! who said ricky sounds bad when talking?? ricky williams is very well spoken even though his actions are odd. either way, you do not have to be a genius to get into college and you do not have to be a genius to be a great athlete. we all have our strengths and weaknesses and it is easier to judge then to be judged. in fact, texas is at the bottom when it comes to graduating athletes.

he has a bad speaking problem, really. It was worse last year. He's gettin better. I really hate to say this but this is the truth (KT don't ban me) but MOSTLY, not ALL but most of the young black males in P.A. look like "thugs" I get the same kinda comments here in the air force from some people...LOL I just laugh it off basically. :D

[SLCDad]

You guys can make fun of me all you want for saying this, but I'm going to say it anyway. I can look at people's eyes and how they carry themselves and tell a lot about their character. . . . He looks good as long as he's winning, but he doesn't have the demeanor to win a lot of games from behind or pull through when times are tough. . . . All I needed to do was see pictures of him in Texas Football last year. With his demeanor, he's better suited to play LB than QB. . . . It works the same way with women. You can always look at a woman and see if she has a real temper/controlling problem.

Make fun of you? OK. I'm in.

Some folks would call you a bigot for thinking you can judge a person's character just by looking into their eyes.

Perhaps we should ask the SV or Lufkin or Denton Ryan or Abilene fans about how Chase Daniel responds in very tough games or how he responds when his team falls behind. He showed (on the field) how he responds.

Your post is an insult to SV, Lufkin, Ryan, Abilene, etc. when you say that Chase doesn't have the character to win tough games. It took an incredible performance to beat those outstanding teams.

You think SLC's run to the title was a cakewalk? achieved by quarterback with flawed character? Hardly.

I'd say it was Chase Daniel's passion that contributed to the success rather than the opposite that you foolishly conclude.

[pack0808]

scooter is all thugged out with tats and gold teeth spitting you know what i am saying 1 million times a day. ;) i am just kidding i have no idea what scooter looks and speaks like. either way, appearances can be deceiving. i have known some horrible thugs in my life that spoke and dressed very well.

[KLH75287]

Make fun of you? OK. I'm in.

Some folks would call you a bigot for thinking you can judge a person's character just by looking into their eyes.

Perhaps we should ask the SV or Lufkin or Denton Ryan or Abilene fans about how Chase Daniel responds in very tough games or how he responds when his team falls behind. He showed (on the field) how he responds.

Your post is an insult to SV, Lufkin, Ryan, Abilene, etc. when you say that Chase doesn't have the character to win tough games. It took an incredible performance to beat those outstanding teams.

You think SLC's run to the title was a cakewalk? achieved by quarterback with flawed character? Hardly.

I'd say it was Chase Daniel's passion that contributed to the success rather than the opposite that you foolishly conclude.

AMEN....

Chase is arrogant, and at times a hot head. Those qualities under the right circumstances and practiced self control are proven assets of leadership. This kid, as well as several other student athletes in his class, have lessons in life coming their way. However, without these traits, his ability to one day lead a team in a bigger game than HS football would be seriously in doubt. He has confidence in his abilities, and with growth and some valuble life lessons, I have to think he will rise to the occassion.

At least to the best of my knowledge he's not thug, out making babies, selling drugs and robbing c-stores destroying his opportunities, as happens all too often with student athletes who have such high expectations to make it BIG.

GOOD LUCK CHASE

GO PACK IN '05

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

scooter is all thugged out with tats and gold teeth spitting you know what i am saying 1 million times a day. ;) i am just kidding i have no idea what scooter looks and speaks like. either way, appearances can be deceiving. i have known some horrible thugs in my life that spoke and dressed very well.
LMAO! I want platinum..LOL j/k

[dragonsdaddy]

not having the ability to read minds , sense auras or devine peoples character through a tv screen, i went back and reviewed a few things i can do through a tv screen. chase's fault-finders point to several miscues, and they are of course accurate in naming them as miscues. i'm hear to tell you, and i may be as qualified to state these facts as anyone except chase and the slc coaches, the interception and both the fumbles occurred while chase was attempting to perform acts for which he had either never or rarely practiced, or will never do again. the first fumble req'd him to catch a carom off the rb's pads- not likely ever practiced. the second was during an under-center snap-rarely practiced or done and not likely ever done at mizzou either. the int involved a misread between a qb and a rec who have been practicing together all of 4 days- never before done in a meaningful game, and never to be done again. if practice does indeed make perfect, i wonder if the corollary might be true also, that novelty begets mistakes.

[TheDuke]

Jammal Charles is the $$it!!! I have a feeling that UT has some great years ahead! Everyone else needs to chill and get along here! This is suppost to a FUN thing! Not somewhere to insult people! :D :D :D

[gwdaddy]

There was one comment of Lonnie's about Chase that might have hit home for a few Dragons--about his temperament being well-suited for playing LB. There were likely a few Dragon O-linemen over the past several years (from 8th grade through 12th) who would have enjoyed facing Chase across the line for a change, rather than listening to him yell at their butts from the backfield--a skill he never lacked.

[dragonsdaddy]

say duke, what's not fun about a little good natured rejoinder? and you are so right about charles. if it's possible to believe, scooter didn't compliment him nearly enough last season.

[dragonsdaddy]

i don't know many who would deny that during his years at slc, they might have wanted to kick his tail, but that comes with the territory, and families are like that, yeah they are. again, i doubt many "let's all just get along" guys play in 3 straight state championship games. some times it truly does require an arsonist to get a fire started.

[gwdaddy]

Well stated, dd.

[pack0808]

chase is a guy i would love to have to go to war with me on a football field. he is a competitor and has that i cannot and will not lose attitude. some see it as arrogance many of the greatest athletes are like that. i am telling you chase reminds me of a drew tate from iowa.

[eagleike]

I'd rather have a qb with fire in his belly than one that throws ducks in the air!

[drgnbkr]

There was one comment of Lonnie's about Chase that might have hit home for a few Dragons--about his temperament being well-suited for playing LB. There were likely a few Dragon O-linemen over the past several years (from 8th grade through 12th) who would have enjoyed facing Chase across the line for a change, rather than listening to him yell at their butts from the backfield--a skill he never lacked.

There were more than a few safeties who had to try & tackle Daniel, thinking they were hitting a linebacker...only to have him pull away with his speed...I don't think Coach Dodge would want any part of Chase apologizing for his competitiveness....& we're sure going to miss it around here..he's a rare talent

[wide-e-wide]

For the record...and just to make a point.
I would send Mike Tyson nasty e-mails about his Mama. But if
I were face to face with him.....I think I might pass.

I'm over it...it was funny. Even the site admin. said it was funny.
It wasn't meant to start a war.

Pack0808 thanks for the words of advice bro. I'll try and keep that in mind.
It's just that for the majority of my life...my Mama was all I had...and when I hear someone saying things like that about my Mama...I go off. Sorry.

FYI...Scooter is thugged out. He has it tatted on his stomach and everything.
His first album...scoot-doggy-dogg ...was probably his best stuff. After he got out of prison he wasn't the same. I think he trying to stay on the low now...hidin' from the po-po and all. He hit hard times for a while. Had to pawn his gold grill to pay child support. It's a sad,sad story....Scooter keep 'ya head up pimpin'...pop 'yo collar.

[Texasfrog]

You guys can make fun of me all you want for saying this, but I'm going to say it anyway. I can look at people's eyes and how they carry themselves and tell a lot about their character.

Chase Daniel does not have what it takes to be a great college QB or a pro QB for that matter. You can look at his eyes and facial expressions and see the hot-headedness and cockiness he takes into each game. He looks good as long as he's winning, but he doesn't have the demeanor to win a lot of games from behind or pull through when times are tough.

Guys, I don't have any bones to pick or axes to grind. It's nothing against SLC, but I do have to tell you what I see in the boy and my character judgments about people have proven to be correct most of the time. Yes, I saw him lose his cool several times in the state title game in 2004, but my thoughts about him were formed before that game. All I needed to do was see pictures of him in Texas Football last year. With his demeanor, he's better suited to play LB than QB. It works the same way with women. You can always look at a woman and see if she has a real temper/controlling problem.

I think chase Daniel will be very good at Missouri. It's only an All-Star game so some kids click and some kids dont. I think in the Texas Coaches All-Star game they literally have like 3 practices. Chase Daniel also had a handful of solid plays and had the nice touchdown pass (called back on holding). He hit a couple of nice slants and seem passes. He'll be fine.

Second... his attitude. I'll take a QB anyday on my team that has that "lets get it done attitude." Some people might call that Team LEADERSHIP. As long has he's not yelling and screaming at Coaches or other players on the sideline. I've seen a few SLC games and never have I seen C. Daniels throwing attitudes around at anyone.

Last... the part about the Women is totally Classic. very funny !!! :) I'm not sure how its being used to compare football players but's its funny.

[KLH75287]

I went back and watched the tape of the 1st interview with Sir Charles. The points made here are very valid. UT's new stud needs some coaching on how to do interviews and how to speak like a professional. Also, it wOuld be nIce if he learned the name of the school that offered him a world class opportunity. He is a world class talent for sure.

ON WITH THE SHOW......


GO PACK IN '05

[wide-e-wide]

I went back and watched the tape of the 1st interview with Sir Charles. The points made here are very valid. UT's new stud needs some coaching on how to do interviews and how to speak like a professional. Also, it wOuld be nIce if he learned the name of the school that offered him a world class opportunity. He is a world class talent for sure.

ON WITH THE SHOW......


GO PACK IN '05

Sure sounds like I'm in the majority with my Jamaal post.
Nobody knew what the hell he said.

[mtbray]

I went back and watched the tape of the 1st interview with Sir Charles. The points made here are very valid. UT's new stud needs some coaching on how to do interviews and how to speak like a professional. Also, it wOuld be nIce if he learned the name of the school that offered him a world class opportunity. He is a world class talent for sure.

ON WITH THE SHOW......


GO PACK IN '05

He's understandable, but it's the NOBODY IS HOME UPSTAIRS look in his eyes that I think is comical.

[dragonsdaddy]

my gosh, since when did we decide to trash a kid for his speech patterns. trust me, he'll get some help along these lines soon. he's a kid and probably hasn't had much opportunity to speak publically. that too will change i predict. let's make fun of something else for a change.

[drgnbkr]

Looks like we need to help Ike out with Poppy...let's pick on Poppy for a while... ;)

[lonny23]

he has a bad speaking problem, really. It was worse last year. He's gettin better. I really hate to say this but this is the truth (KT don't ban me) but MOSTLY, not ALL but most of the young black males in P.A. look like "thugs" I get the same kinda comments here in the air force from some people...LOL I just laugh it off basically. :D
I'd fall on the floor laughing if I heard somebody say you look like a thug! :D The again, one of our Personal Property counselors was doing a briefing this week and one of the guys said, "You don't look like a Wichita Falls woman. You don't look like you're from around here." She busted out laughing.

[Rerun]

Last year Lonny chilled with me at the Dome and he said, " You don't look like you're a San Antonian, are you from here?"

I told L2K to never hit on me again.

I was pissed. :mad:

[lonny23]

I'd like to add something else to the Chase Daniel thread. I agree to the max that you want a competitive guy at QB and you have to have a certain cockiness to play the position. I'll watch to see how he plays at Missouri, but right now I think he'll be closer to the next Ryan Leaf than he will be to the next Troy Aikman. Chase deserves a lot of credit for winning a bunch of games, but all of you guys have to wonder how he'll adjust to not winning every game. He might do fine, but I have my doubts that the QB with the LB mentality will be a great college QB.

Whether you intended it or not, the honest assessment of some of the Dallas-area people helped validate some of what I said I saw in Chase. He has very good talent and I wasn't trying to hate on him. I just never got around to saying what I said a few days ago during the season last year. I could've said it when I bought Texas Football in 2004. If it makes you guys feel better, maybe I'll find somebody else to pick on, so you don't think it's a SLC thing! :D I've posted a lot of things on this board and never said that about a player before, so you should figure I'm being honest.

[dragonsdaddy]

i wish i could read others with your skills. it would make picking a financial analyst and another wife if necessary much easier. personally, your opinions are based on crap, imo.

[drgnbkr]

C'mon Doc...quit beatin around the bush! Be more direct......

[lonny23]

i wish i could read others with your skills. it would make picking a financial analyst and another wife if necessary much easier. personally, your opinions are based on crap, imo.
Just give me time. I respect your opinion as being different and time will show whether what I say is crap or not. In this case, I took a person that I've never met and matched him up with people I have met.

I've always been a church-goer and prayed for wisdom about 20 years ago. I'm not perfect in all my analyses, but one thing I have had over the years is the ability to discern stuff. It manifests itself in knowing a person's character and knowing when people are lying. That's what led to the first Chase post I made. One of the things that has always been funny to me is the fact that bad people who change their lives for good, still have eyes that say, "I'm a bad person". I don't think that ever goes away. Yes, I'm a big proponent to the statement, "eyes are the window to the soul."

[drgnbkr]

Just give me time. I respect your opinion as being different and time will show whether what I say is crap or not. In this case, I took a person that I've never met and matched him up with people I have met.

I've always been a church-goer and prayed for wisdom about 20 years ago. I'm not perfect in all my analyses, but one thing I have had over the years is the ability to discern stuff. It manifests itself in knowing a person's character and knowing when people are lying. That's what led to the first Chase post I made. One of the things that has always been funny to me is the fact that bad people who change their lives for good, still have eyes that say, "I'm a bad person". I don't think that ever goes away. Yes, I'm a big proponent to the statement, "eyes are the window to the soul."

Or we talkin HS Football or the secrets of the universe?

[lonny23]

Or we talkin HS Football or the secrets of the universe?
When I was writing that, I was thinking we better get back on topic pretty soon or the thread will be locked! :) I didn't get to see the game, so I don't have any great analysis about what took place.

There is one thought that has always gone through my mind in these games and it's, "Why do they play All-Star games within a few months of the start of the season and risk injury?" The colleges have to be on pins and needles for 3 hours.

[Rerun]

Do you guys really want to get into the psychological oddities that are the enigma we live in?

[SV05champs]

Well, if I had said something rude about your mama, I would have said I was sorry. My first comment was not rude toward your mama. Just go back and look. You just went off, and I took advantage of it. I dont know you, and I dont know your mama, so why let it bother you, even if it were rude. However, sorry if you took it the wrong way, at least you had a mama. I didnt. Its cool, I was just giving you a hard time after the fact. Peace, now lets talk ball! As for the Tyson comment, even if I met you, even if you were 5-9 110, and me being 6-1 210, I still would not fight over something like that, if that is what you were referring too!! My wife would divorce me, and I would not have friends if I were that idiotic to fight over words...Sorry again, just joking with you to begin with. A Forrest Gump quote is all it was



For the record...and just to make a point.
I would send Mike Tyson nasty e-mails about his Mama. But if
I were face to face with him.....I think I might pass.

I'm over it...it was funny. Even the site admin. said it was funny.
It wasn't meant to start a war.

Pack0808 thanks for the words of advice bro. I'll try and keep that in mind.
It's just that for the majority of my life...my Mama was all I had...and when I hear someone saying things like that about my Mama...I go off. Sorry.

FYI...Scooter is thugged out. He has it tatted on his stomach and everything.
His first album...scoot-doggy-dogg ...was probably his best stuff. After he got out of prison he wasn't the same. I think he trying to stay on the low now...hidin' from the po-po and all. He hit hard times for a while. Had to pawn his gold grill to pay child support. It's a sad,sad story....Scooter keep 'ya head up pimpin'...pop 'yo collar.

[ktchamp97]

When I was writing that, I was thinking we better get back on topic pretty soon or the thread will be locked! :)

Nah. The threads that get locked are the ones that go hopelessly off course, devoid of any substantive discussion. This thread turned out to be really good...lots of thoughtful opinions on many sides of many different issues.

my gosh, since when did we decide to trash a kid for his speech patterns. trust me, he'll get some help along these lines soon. he's a kid and probably hasn't had much opportunity to speak publically. that too will change i predict. let's make fun of something else for a change
Exactly. That's all I was trying to say.

About his game...if he takes care of business in class (UT has had several blue-chippers who couldn't make it lately...and they don't mess around when it comes to grades), he will have no problem carrying on the UT running back legacy.

Jermichael Finley may be the jewel of this class, however.

[drgnbkr]

Do you guys really want to get into the psychological oddities that are the enigma we live in?

Huh?

[wide-e-wide]

Huh?

I'll go over this....for the last time...
It's the 1.21 jiggawatts necessary for time travel. That's the key..
without that...we are just cruisin' around in a souped-up Delorean.