26-5A Predictions from SASports.com

[Rerun]

Alright, here is a link to the 26-5A Predictions from SASports.com.

I hate that site, but thats another story.

link (http://sasports.com/sports/football/2005footballpreview265A.htm)

They predict the outcome will be this....

1. Smithson Valley
2. Converse Judson
3. Churchill
4. Madison
5. Roosevelt
6. MacArthur
7. Reagan
8. Lee

[Mad Hatter]

that seems pretty solid and a definate posibility.

[Rerun]

I like Reagan in 4th place.

[Xfballphenome05]

that sounds about right to me,although in the link someone sounded pretty excited about lee...

[Rerun]

that sounds about right to me,although in the link someone sounded pretty excited about lee...

Yea...they get excited about all the teams.

That is why I do not like that site at all.

[Jrock]

Somebody should tell him that Elbel graduated and Amadeus Waters is no longer at Madison.

Other than that it's just another rah-rah piece from the head cheerleader, Jay Tope.

[RedRage00]

Other than that it's just another rah-rah piece from the head cheerleader, Jay Tope.

I didn't see anything wrong with it. He's just giving unbiased opinions on all the teams.

RR

[dragonsdaddy]

well, they are opinions anyway.

[implacable44]

judson will win this district.

[dragonsdaddy]

now THAT ;) is an unbiased opinion.

[implacable44]

you think so -- mmmhh i wonder if SLC will win their division -- I wonder how many "unbiased" opinions there would be ???

Aren't opinions biased by nature?

[dragonsdaddy]

i don't know. i guess red rage would be able to answer that.

[Rerun]

Bottom line

Anyways, I like SV to win 26-5A

JROC In Second.

WC in third.

RR In 4th.

[RedRage00]

Nah, I've listened to this guy talk and I don't think I ever hear him being biased towards one team over the other....maybe I just don't catch it.

I was just referring to Tx Headliner not liking them because they get excited about ALL the teams.....are they supposed to just ignore certain teams??? Someone mentioned Lee....should they have left Lee off the description of the district? If Lee would have been left off then people would say "I can't believe he forgot Lee"...it's a no win situation. JMO

RR

[Rerun]

No, they should not leave any teams off, but why give a very misleading description filled with blatant errors.

Originally he had two players on teams that are not there anymore.

If you are going to do something, then do it right.

They also claim Lee will not be getting blown out.

Right. Talk to me a few weeks into district when Lee's point differential is -50.



Also, in earlier predictions on that site, they think Seguin can give Clemens a major run for the district crown.

RIGHT. Clemens will not lose in district. AGAIN.

I made a post last year on that site about how I promised Clemens would go undefeated in district. The owner of that site replied that if Clemens went undefeated in district, he would shave his head.

Well, Clemens went without a loss in district and the dude came to Clemens and shaved his head at a pep rally.

[Texas Hammer]

Until I see something to change my mind, I'll go with Judson to win 26-5A. In all seriousness, why should I assume that SV is now better than Judson without playing a game. Hey, I may change my mind before district, but there's no reason to doubt the Rockets right now.

[Rerun]

Until I see something to change my mind, I'll go with Judson to win 26-5A. In all seriousness, why should I assume that SV is now better than Judson without playing a game. Hey, I may change my mind before district, but there's no reason to doubt the Rockets right now.

Same thing goes for Clemens vs. Seguin. Why would Clemens lose to a team that is still up and coming when Clemens has from what I hear are 4 potential D1 prospects, not including James Henry who has already made the early comit to OU.

That site also made a comment earlier about how Clemens could have trouble with a new head coach. I guess someone forgot to tell that site that Coach F has been at Clemens for some time now and that he knows the way things work.
It's not like he is a rookie or anything.

[Jay Tope]

Normally I don't respond to trash talk; I don't allow it on SAsports.com, and I'm sure that the cool folks here at 5A Texas Football usually don't acknowledge trash talk as appropriate either. However, the hate that Texas Headliner obviously has for my web site needs to be addressed.

First and foremost, SAsports.com is a web site that's sole purpose is to provide positive publicity of high school athletes and activities. We don't trash talk. We talk about all of the schools, because guess what? All of the schools have students. In other words, we talk about other parent's children. That's sometimes lost in the words, thoughts and posts of Texas Headliner and his band of gurus (Slick, tx3rdcoastborn, others).

One of the other things that we do at SAsports.com is allow high school students to do much of the work. We work closely with the journalism departments of 128 high schools, giving their students experience that can help them get into college, and also help out their resume as they enter the work force. Sometimes mistakes are made. When they are, they are corrected, as was the case in the 26-5A previews.

We don't blame 5A Texas Football for the views of others. We respect the owners of this site. But let's get to the real reason that Headliner has a beef with us... he's been banned from our site message boards (along with his posse) for spewing hate and negative comments on our board. That's the real reason for his dislike of our site. Thanks 5A Football for your constant support of what we do, and continued success. And I wonder if Headliner and his posse would put a signature including their real name and contact info? Probably not.

Best wishes,

Jay Tope
Senior Editor, SAsports.com
(210) 88-SCORE

[RedRage00]

Also, in earlier predictions on that site, they think Seguin can give Clemens a major run for the district crown.



Well last year they gave big bad Clemens a scare....maybe they'll do it this year.

RR

[J-ROCKSTUD79]

ahaah i dont understand why people pick judson not to beat smithson valley. :confused: judson is loaded with division 1 talent.for ex.nike came to judson and hosted a nike camp and used the sparq training deal.judson averaged and 83.01.that is great.the only team in this whole south west area that beat that was south grand praiare.there score was 85.i hope people are not banking sv to beat judson.if so there are gonna be a lot of dissappointed fans.

[J-ROCKSTUD79]

Until I see something to change my mind, I'll go with Judson to win 26-5A. In all seriousness, why should I assume that SV is now better than Judson without playing a game. Hey, I may change my mind before district, but there's no reason to doubt the Rockets right now.


i like youre thinkin hammer.

[Go Buffs]

Props to you Jay Tope for coming in to give your views and purpose of your site. I'd never visited your site until, ironically, this very morning BEFORE reading your post. I can't comment on it one way or the other since it's so new to me, but what an interesting concept you have...treat high school kids with positive re-enforcement and give them hands on encouragement? :confused: Do you really think that's better than bashing them over the head with everything they're doing wrong, bashing their schools for perennial losing records, and ragging on their school's facilities? ;)

[Texas Hammer]

In all fairness, the websites that cover high school sports can't be too critical. It looks like you have biases and you don't want to do that.

It's a lot more acceptable for the average fan to criticize.

[RedRage00]

i like youre thinkin hammer.

You're about the only one :D

[Rerun]

Judson is always good.

SV should win district though based on the # of returning starters.

[SV05champs]

I guess we will have to wait and see. SV was not anything close to what they became when they played Judson last year. They were acually not very good at all at the time. A different team toward the end of the year. And almost all of them will be back, with experience with the new offense and defense. As for the camps.... So South Grand Praire is going to be awesome and win it all this year?



ahaah i dont understand why people pick judson not to beat smithson valley. :confused: judson is loaded with division 1 talent.for ex.nike came to judson and hosted a nike camp and used the sparq training deal.judson averaged and 83.01.that is great.the only team in this whole south west area that beat that was south grand praiare.there score was 85.i hope people are not banking sv to beat judson.if so there are gonna be a lot of dissappointed fans.

[Texas Hammer]

All this SV talk is propaganda. The Rangers have 11 starters back and that's no big deal because Judson has 10 starters back. Judson won at SV and gets them at home this year.

I sure don't care to read about how much better SV was at the end of the year. Yeah, you guys got better, but so did Judson. Remember they held Clemens to ZERO first downs and 32 yards in the playoffs. You didn't lose to a chump team and I still say Judson was the best team in the state last year.

There's one thing that I know is true. Some SV fans have a loser's mentality and you won't win state if the players are the same way. I've heard all offseason about how Judson's win last year was a fluke and you guys conveniently forget you lost to SLC, too. Buckle down and beat SOMEBODY and quit making excuses for losses. Don't get me wrong, I wanted you to beat SLC. The truth is you lost to 2 teams that were better than you. Judson (until the semifinals) and SLC spent the whole year in the top 5 in the nation in one of the power polls.

[Rerun]

L2K - Kid. Seriously.

If Judson was the best team in the state then why did they not win it all?

I did not know that SV and JROC return about the same. In that case then I give the nod to Judson.

[Texas Hammer]

L2K - Kid. Seriously.

If Judson was the best team in the state then why did they not win it all?

I did not know that SV and JROC return about the same. In that case then I give the nod to Judson.
That's the age-old beauty of sports. No matter how good you are, you need a little luck and a few breaks. The breaks usually come when you win a game that you didn't play your best in. In Judson's case, they played a great team in the semis that was on an awesome 4 week run and they played their worst game of the year. Judson basically played 13 weeks of error-free football, but couldn't do it in Week 14.

[BIGrNtx12]

Hammer, I'll give it to ya'll, Judson beat them fair and square last year. Could Sv have played better, sure, did they, no. But as for you slamming Sv so much, being a fan of your team is one thing and understandable. But actually critisizing SV? Common I think theyv'e done enough and proven enough for you to show some respect. I don't know if SV will win state this year but I do know come week 6 when ya'll play eachother, I'll take SV not because I know they will win, but I know that coaching staff will get them ready and them country boys will be pissed.

[BIGrNtx12]

Oh and losers mentality? I don't think winning at leats 10 games for the past 7 or 8 years qualifies as a losing mentality

[Texas Hammer]

Oh and losers mentality? I don't think winning at leats 10 games for the past 7 or 8 years qualifies as a losing mentality
Actually, I should've rephrased what I said. I can't say the team or the coaching staff says the wrong things and it's really the fans that have the loser mentality. If the players talk and think like the fans, then what I said stands true.

[Texas Hammer]

i like youre thinkin hammer.
Hey, I have to throw you guys a few bones. You haven't given me a reason to doubt you and I would rather think positively and be let down vs. thinking negatively. It hasn't ever happened at Judson, but you guys might go 15-0 this year. You just need to take them one at a time.

[TexasRed6x]

The Sv/Judson game to me is a 50-50 split. SV has 11 starters back and Judson has 10 back, so for now without playing a game. The thing it will come down to is speed, and that is where the problem could lie for SV. All of you know that Judson will have more team speed if you play the game tomorrow or in October and that will not change. SV is a solid football power and their past history if they won a championship or will not change. I just feel for now, that Judson will win this game. They have the 10 starters back and from what I have been told their JV went 10-0 in a very good district and that is playing all of district 26 5A,Cove and PV which is very hard to do. I also think that they are playing at Judson, again a very tough task at hand. On the bright side for both of these teams they both should go at least 3 games into the playoffs.

[Texas Hammer]

The Sv/Judson game to me is a 50-50 split. SV has 11 starters back and Judson has 10 back, so for now without playing a game. The thing it will come down to is speed, and that is where the problem could lie for SV. All of you know that Judson will have more team speed if you play the game tomorrow or in October and that will not change. SV is a solid football power and their past history if they won a championship or will not change. I just feel for now, that Judson will win this game. They have the 10 starters back and from what I have been told their JV went 10-0 in a very good district and that is playing all of district 26 5A,Cove and PV which is very hard to do. I also think that they are playing at Judson, again a very tough task at hand. On the bright side for both of these teams they both should go at least 3 games into the playoffs.
I think 3 games in the playoffs is on the low side for SV and Judson. Both will go at least 4 and there's a good chance they go 5 or 6.

You hit on a good point. When Judson has coaching that is close to or better than SV, they'll win with a speed advantage. SLC had a talent advantage and was in the ballpark in the coaching department.

[RedRage00]

If Judson was the best team in the state then why did they not win it all?



They weren't the best team last year....everyone knows it was SLC

[SV05champs]

""[I sure don't care to read about how much better SV was at the end of the year.""

You dont like to see this because you know it was true. They were twice as good when things got going in a new system. Its a fact. Deal with it rather you want to read about it or not.


""There's one thing that I know is true. Some SV fans have a loser's mentality and you won't win state if the players are the same way. I've heard all offseason about how Judson's win last year was a fluke and you guys conveniently forget you lost to SLC, too. Buckle down and beat SOMEBODY and quit making excuses for losses. Don't get me wrong, I wanted you to beat SLC. The truth is you lost to 2 teams that were better than you. Judson (until the semifinals) and SLC spent the whole year in the top 5 in the nation in one of the power polls.[/QUOTE]"""

Are you serious? losers mentality?? SV has lost very few games in the past 4 years, most were in the deep playoffs (state) Judsons win wasnt a fluke, they got lucky the game was scheaduled when it was. Remember SV lost a game prior to Judson, think about that... Yes they did lose to SLC, nobody forgot about that. It was by a LAST MIN. FIELD GOAL!! Beat sombody?? They did, and come the Judson game, they will again. I guess you forgot to mention the other EARLY SEASON loss prior to Judson. I guess that team was better than SV as well?? True Judson was in the top 5 in the nation in some polls, so what? In the state polls SV was 25, after things got rolling they are in the top 3. If you dont want to realize that SV was not even close to what they became during the Judson game, dont. Knowing players and coaches I know what was going on. They knew it would all take off once the kids learned the new system. Teams like SLC and Judson have had a solid sytem in place for the past SEVERAL years. SV was a running/short pass team. In 03 and prior SV would take almost every snap under center, with two tight ends and one/two wide outs max. It was basic/solid football, old school. After a loss in the state game in 02, and after another close run in 2003 SV worked in a new system that would better be suited to beat teams like SLC. 2004 was going to be the re-building year. New offense and a new defense (to defend the spread better) They did not expect to make it to the state game with such young kids. However things began to take off mid-season, and they almost won a state ring. The SV. Judson game this year will be a fair game. SV has the system working now, and we shall see. I promise you, SV will win the game. SV does not lose to a team twice very often. as a matter of fact its happened only once in the past 5-6 years and that was in the state finals, with a last min. field goal. There will never be 3rd loss to a team as long as Hill is there, he is too smart for that.

[Reaganrattler07]

The SV - Judson game is at Judson this year so that may give Judson an edge. And considering both teams return just about the same amount of people.

I'm goin' for Judson this year.

[lonny23]

""[I sure don't care to read about how much better SV was at the end of the year.""

You dont like to see this because you know it was true. They were twice as good when things got going in a new system. Its a fact. Deal with it rather you want to read about it or not.


""There's one thing that I know is true. Some SV fans have a loser's mentality and you won't win state if the players are the same way. I've heard all offseason about how Judson's win last year was a fluke and you guys conveniently forget you lost to SLC, too. Buckle down and beat SOMEBODY and quit making excuses for losses. Don't get me wrong, I wanted you to beat SLC. The truth is you lost to 2 teams that were better than you. Judson (until the semifinals) and SLC spent the whole year in the top 5 in the nation in one of the power polls."""

Are you serious? losers mentality?? SV has lost very few games in the past 4 years, most were in the deep playoffs (state) Judsons win wasnt a fluke, they got lucky the game was scheaduled when it was. Remember SV lost a game prior to Judson, think about that... Yes they did lose to SLC, nobody forgot about that. It was by a LAST MIN. FIELD GOAL!! Beat sombody?? They did, and come the Judson game, they will again. I guess you forgot to mention the other EARLY SEASON loss prior to Judson. I guess that team was better than SV as well?? True Judson was in the top 5 in the nation in some polls, so what? In the state polls SV was 25, after things got rolling they are in the top 3. If you dont want to realize that SV was not even close to what they became during the Judson game, dont. Knowing players and coaches I know what was going on. They knew it would all take off once the kids learned the new system. Teams like SLC and Judson have had a solid sytem in place for the past SEVERAL years. SV was a running/short pass team. In 03 and prior SV would take almost every snap under center, with two tight ends and one/two wide outs max. It was basic/solid football, old school. After a loss in the state game in 02, and after another close run in 2003 SV worked in a new system that would better be suited to beat teams like SLC. 2004 was going to be the re-building year. New offense and a new defense (to defend the spread better) They did not expect to make it to the state game with such young kids. However things began to take off mid-season, and they almost won a state ring. The SV. Judson game this year will be a fair game. SV has the system working now, and we shall see. I promise you, SV will win the game. SV does not lose to a team twice very often. as a matter of fact its happened only once in the past 5-6 years and that was in the state finals, with a last min. field goal. There will never be 3rd loss to a team as long as Hill is there, he is too smart for that.[/QUOTE]
I guess I'm warming up for the regular season! :D
Seriously, I can't wait for the SV-Judson game. If you were around here last year, you'd know I was probably the biggest SV booster all through the playoffs. The SV fans didn't really show up until the end. You better believe I was upset when SLC beat you.

[SV05champs]

Yea, you did support. I was here but lost my log in over the summer. I am looking forward to two games, Judson and SLC if they can make that far again.


"""

Are you serious? losers mentality?? SV has lost very few games in the past 4 years, most were in the deep playoffs (state) Judsons win wasnt a fluke, they got lucky the game was scheaduled when it was. Remember SV lost a game prior to Judson, think about that... Yes they did lose to SLC, nobody forgot about that. It was by a LAST MIN. FIELD GOAL!! Beat sombody?? They did, and come the Judson game, they will again. I guess you forgot to mention the other EARLY SEASON loss prior to Judson. I guess that team was better than SV as well?? True Judson was in the top 5 in the nation in some polls, so what? In the state polls SV was 25, after things got rolling they are in the top 3. If you dont want to realize that SV was not even close to what they became during the Judson game, dont. Knowing players and coaches I know what was going on. They knew it would all take off once the kids learned the new system. Teams like SLC and Judson have had a solid sytem in place for the past SEVERAL years. SV was a running/short pass team. In 03 and prior SV would take almost every snap under center, with two tight ends and one/two wide outs max. It was basic/solid football, old school. After a loss in the state game in 02, and after another close run in 2003 SV worked in a new system that would better be suited to beat teams like SLC. 2004 was going to be the re-building year. New offense and a new defense (to defend the spread better) They did not expect to make it to the state game with such young kids. However things began to take off mid-season, and they almost won a state ring. The SV. Judson game this year will be a fair game. SV has the system working now, and we shall see. I promise you, SV will win the game. SV does not lose to a team twice very often. as a matter of fact its happened only once in the past 5-6 years and that was in the state finals, with a last min. field goal. There will never be 3rd loss to a team as long as Hill is there, he is too smart for that.
I guess I'm warming up for the regular season! :D
Seriously, I can't wait for the SV-Judson game. If you were around here last year, you'd know I was probably the biggest SV booster all through the playoffs. The SV fans didn't really show up until the end. You better believe I was upset when SLC beat you.[/QUOTE]

[SVite]

Yeah....10...11 returning starters for SV.Thats nice but they way I count,it`s 37 returning lettermen!Coach Hill will plug em in and "The Team" will roll this year.The only team to beat us 2 times in a row is slc,since any one can remember.Maybe Tivy,way back in the eary 90`s.Slc blew us away in the 2003 state final.The next time we met (2005) state final the gap came down to a last second field goal.The 1st game was on our turf,the second on theirs.The loss to Judson was on our turf,the second will be on thiers...hmmm.Coach Hill will know everything about Judson this time around,and "The Team" will be ready,with those other 10...11 returning starters.I`ll be there cheering for the Team in dark blue,while my daughter will cheering the red ,and gray as a cheerleader.It`s gonna be fun,and i`m sure i wont be talking very loud the next day.Like last year against madison,when we blew em out.By the way that was the 2nd time in a row we did that. :cool:

[Rerun]

Yeah....10...11 returning starters for SV.Thats nice but they way I count,it`s 37 returning lettermen!Coach Hill will plug em in and "The Team" will roll this year.The only team to beat us 2 times in a row is slc,since any one can remember.Maybe Tivy,way back in the eary 90`s.Slc blew us away in the 2003 state final.The next time we met (2005) state final the gap came down to a last second field goal.The 1st game was on our turf,the second on theirs.The loss to Judson was on our turf,the second will be on thiers...hmmm.Coach Hill will know everything about Judson this time around,and "The Team" will be ready,with those other 10...11 returning starters.I`ll be there cheering for the Team in dark blue,while my daughter will cheering the red ,and gray as a cheerleader.It`s gonna be fun,and i`m sure i wont be talking very loud the next day.Like last year against madison,when we blew em out.By the way that was the 2nd time in a row we did that. :cool:


Not true. In 1999, I beleive it was, when SV and Clemens were in Class 4A, Clemens beat SV 30-23 in the play offs.

The next time Clemens and SV played was in the 2003 playoffs in Class 5A. Clemens won that game also, as we all know.

Therefore, Clemens has beaten SV at least the past two times they have met.

Photographic Proof that Clemens beat SV in 1999 below.
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9841/mmattcharts2ra.jpg

[SVite]

And while i`m thinking about it:Remember in 2003 when the mighty Westlake team beat us convincingly in regular season,But,when the real chips were on the table in the play-offs,thier fans slowly showing up at Bobcat stadium thinking SV who?The half time score was 28-0.....advantage Hill!And how about the Hill`s brothers clashes.The 1st time around Glen Hill`s Rough Riders roasted us in the play-offs,i think it was like 2001.But, again Larry Hill and the staff got the advantage at Harlandale stadium, and roughed up the riders,and went on to the state final.But lost in triple overtime to Denton Ryan in Waco.So Judson come on in thinking like Westlake did,and crumble like you did 2 years ago.

[Reaganrattler07]

Madison's not all that impressive. haha, i was cheerin' for SV at the game....although i was sitting on the Madison side....it was in the shade, mind you.

[SVite]

LOL ,man it sure was hottt I got a sun burn on that early saturday game on the non shade side.Texas headliner your right,Clemens has been a thorn in our side.Bad thing is will problably will never play again in 5A,maybe both of us in 4A one day.

[JC73]

Not true. In 1999, I beleive it was, when SV and Clemens were in Class 4A, Clemens beat SV 30-23 in the play offs.

The next time Clemens and SV played was in the 2003 playoffs in Class 5A. Clemens won that game also, as we all know.

Therefore, Clemens has beaten SV at least the past two times they have met.

Photographic Proof that Clemens beat SV in 1999 below.
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9841/mmattcharts2ra.jpg

Clemens did beat SV in 2003, but they did it while not scoring a single offensive TD. They won with their D. Kinda of an off day for the Rangers. Oh well, a win is a win. Take nothing away from that awesome 2003 Buff Squad.

[Rerun]

LOL ,man it sure was hottt I got a sun burn on that early saturday game on the non shade side.Texas headliner your right,Clemens has been a thorn in our side.Bad thing is will problably will never play again in 5A,maybe both of us in 4A one day.

Yea, Clemens will be back in 4A in 2006 until I am thinking about 2010 or 2012.

After that, I see Clemens moving back up to 5A

The growth in the SV area has not really been at a stready enough pace to make any projections, but, I am sure one day SV will be playing in the highest classification possible, 5A or 6A(IF THEY EVER CREATE IT).

[Reaganrattler07]

I wonder what kind of classification 6A would....3000 students?

[lonny23]

And while i`m thinking about it:Remember in 2003 when the mighty Westlake team beat us convincingly in regular season,But,when the real chips were on the table in the play-offs,thier fans slowly showing up at Bobcat stadium thinking SV who?The half time score was 28-0.....advantage Hill!And how about the Hill`s brothers clashes.The 1st time around Glen Hill`s Rough Riders roasted us in the play-offs,i think it was like 2001.But, again Larry Hill and the staff got the advantage at Harlandale stadium, and roughed up the riders,and went on to the state final.But lost in triple overtime to Denton Ryan in Waco.So Judson come on in thinking like Westlake did,and crumble like you did 2 years ago.
First of all, you played for the title and had the Westlake games in 2002. Secondly, and more important than that, is the Judson Rockets are not your average team. It took Clemens almost 30 years to beat Judson. It happens to the best teams because both Waco and Westfield beat Judson in back-to-back years.

This 2 in a row stuff is just a crutch and it all comes down to whether or not the other team is better or you're better. The real truth is that very few teams are good enough to beat SV twice in a row because very few are good enough to beat them once. Judson can beat them any year they play them, but SV can win any year, too.

[Rerun]

First of all, you played for the title and had the Westlake games in 2002. Secondly, and more important than that, is the Judson Rockets are not your average team. It took Clemens almost 30 years to beat Judson. It happens to the best teams because both Waco and Westfield beat Judson in back-to-back years.

This 2 in a row stuff is just a crutch and it all comes down to whether or not the other team is better or you're better. The real truth is that very few teams are good enough to beat SV twice in a row because very few are good enough to beat them once. Judson can beat them any year they play them, but SV can win any year, too.

L2K, Dont forget get there was like a 15 year drought where they didnt play eachother.

[lonny23]

L2K, Dont forget get there was like a 15 year drought where they didnt play eachother.
That's very true. I just wanted to point out that you stand a good chance to lose anytime you play another top team. SV has good coaching and makes adjustments to teams, but they still might lose to Judson twice in a row. The SV fans assume that magical coaching from Hill overcomes everything. I think it's very shortsighted because Judson has never gone undefeated and if they can find ways to lose to teams twice in a row, then anybody can do it. Who knows, Katy may beat SLC twice in a row.

[nonebetter]

judson will beat SV!!!! they have a lot of players that unknown but will good watch out for their ILB Hector Sobers 6'1 214 lbs. 4.66 im telling you he will be better than LB Kendal Volz, 6’3 200, Smithson Valley

[Reaganrattler07]

Shame you can't bet on high school games.

[lonny23]

Shame you can't bet on high school games.
People do bet on the games, but I'm glad there isn't organized gambling on the games. Gambling has ruined sports because you have so much crookedness that taints the results of the games. Yes, the greed of wanting money makes more people watch, but I don't gamble and watch anyway. The hint of game-fixing upsets me to no end because there is almost nothing fair, true, or honest in the world.

[Reaganrattler07]

No, i don't think these should be oranigzed gambling but I was making a joke because there are so many people debating what the Judson-SV game is gonne be.

[JudsonStud19]

Wow... If anyone has checked the link to this crap... The sasports.com thing... House aint even a QB Let alone and all district return... This man only played qb like twice all season... and for like a total of maybe 5 mins... and McNair... yea he is all district... IN AGRICULTURE... McNair barely saw the feild last year too... I think Housler saw the feild more then he did... McNair isnt even going to be the starter this year... Sure he will be the only SR QB but come on... he is Agriculture all the way... Area 7 president... the toughest area in TEXAS when it comes to Ag and FFA... That is comething he can be proud of... I know yall dont like hearing about me always having somehting to say abuot people screwing up so ill stop.. but come on guys.. yall are suppose to be the experts... I find it funny that the people who talk about sports in the media are all probably the people who never played a lick in their life... Dont talk about it unless your 100% sure... Next time anyone wants to say something about Judson... please please come ask me... Ill tell you... I go there... I talk to these people... They are all my best friends... We all hang uot and go eat on the weekends... Ask me...

[TexasRed6x]

OK Stud 19, where do you think that you can come up with a running back and quarterback for this year. If you don't have any then it could be a long year for the Rockets. I would say that if you don't have any linebackers back that will be a problem. Tell us O stud 19 who can we expect to fill those shoes.

[Texas Hammer]

OK Stud 19, where do you think that you can come up with a running back and quarterback for this year. If you don't have any then it could be a long year for the Rockets. I would say that if you don't have any linebackers back that will be a problem. Tell us O stud 19 who can we expect to fill those shoes.
Your first 2 questions are the least of my concern. Judson always ran in the past, so QB didn't have a great affect on the team. It usually only matters in the semis and finals. As far as RB goes, Judson always has a pile to throw out there. The O Line should be good and they have guys back on defense. I've heard the LBs are real fast.

[JudsonStud19]

OK Stud 19, where do you think that you can come up with a running back and quarterback for this year. If you don't have any then it could be a long year for the Rockets. I would say that if you don't have any linebackers back that will be a problem. Tell us O stud 19 who can we expect to fill those shoes.
Well to answer the qb question... We have a Junior Carl Bolden... He should be great... The only nack with him is that he may not trust his arm enough to get it out there to guys like Williams and Housler... Backing him up if not starting maybe will be Eddie Burmudiez... (I think that is how its spelt)... He has a strong more accurate arm... Although he does not have the scrabmling ability that Carl does... I dont think agility should matter that much at the qb position with the O-Line that we have returing... Running back... That may be a little bit tougher... Kevin Taylor may get the start but coming off an off season shoulder surgery you never know... Alfred McDaniels was the fastest guy recorded in the 40 during the NIKE SPARQ combine that came through a week or two ago... Look for him to get ome time also... Both guys are small so as they hide behind the line... Kevin is more of a Chauncy Campbell type guy... Not to fast foot speed.. but quick feet and amazing power make him my favorit... But then again... It seems as if we have a running back tree jus growing in our back yard there... I am sure we wont have a problem...
Then you ask Linebackers... OUCH... I aint too sure about that... I mean we have Hector Sobers... But I mean he aint no good... Only one of the top ten athletes in the country according to NIKE... He scored a 91... I mean call me crazy.. but a guy by the name of VICK... You know plays a little qb these days in Atlanta.. He only scored a 90... Oh and a man named Brian Urlacher...Yea he scored a 80... I dont know call me crazy but i think that kid can play... Then you have Travis Houston who I think is making the transiton to OUTSIDE LINEBACKER... He is only one of the top recruits in our area... I mean schools like Baylor... A&M... UT... Its like throwing darts in a phone book... Any school he wants he can go to... Look for us top have no problems this year... My only concern will be kicker... And in my book who needs that jus score every drive and go for 2... No problem...

[jrdaniel]

Yeah, we will miss that kicker for sure!

BTW, did you work for Chingalay Roofing????

[Texas Hammer]

Yeah, we will miss that kicker for sure!

BTW, did you work for Chingalay Roofing????
Elbel is the one guy on the team who's hard to replace. His punting and kicking were awesome. I told the guys at the Alamo Bowl that Judson's kicker had a better leg than Ohio State's kicker.

[JudsonStud19]

I would say Elbel has a better leg then alot of D1 Kickers... He is a dude... Well and to answer if I worked at that place... No... I dont work... I go to school.

[HOOKEM]

Rackley Goes to my Church. I spoke to him briefly a couple of weeks ago. The coaching staff is already working hard on the beginning of the season. Copperas Cove is the big worry for Rock nation. I think it is also going to be very hard for S. Valley to win in Converse. S Valley seems to have the "Get stronger as the season goes on trait", but with PLuge coming to SV they had better step it up early this year.
Will have to see.

[Texas Hammer]

Rackley Goes to my Church. I spoke to him briefly a couple of weeks ago. The coaching staff is already working hard on the beginning of the season. Copperas Cove is the big worry for Rock nation. I think it is also going to be very hard for S. Valley to win in Converse. S Valley seems to have the "Get stronger as the season goes on trait", but with PLuge coming to SV they had better step it up early this year.
Will have to see.
I think of Ray Stevens' Mississippi Squirrel Revival song when I think of Rackley in church. He ought to preach. Everybody would get rebaptized, they'd all volunteer to be missionaries to the Congo, and $25K would get raised! :D

Cove is a legitimate concern. Nixon looks to be down and playing in Converse. Pflugerville isn't a pushover, but they aren't what they were last year and come to Bexar County, too. We have to go to Cove and that will be a good game.

[DiamondJ2]

Not too many schools in the state will play 3 teams in the top 25 in their 1st 5 games. Judson has that privilege. Cove & Pflugerville will be extremely tough ball games.

[rangerpride]

Rackley Goes to my Church. I spoke to him briefly a couple of weeks ago. The coaching staff is already working hard on the beginning of the season. Copperas Cove is the big worry for Rock nation. I think it is also going to be very hard for S. Valley to win in Converse. S Valley seems to have the "Get stronger as the season goes on trait", but with PLuge coming to SV they had better step it up early this year.
Will have to see.
Actually, SV plays AT Pflugerville this year. Pflugerville beat SV @ Ranger Stadium last year late in the game. There QB last year was lightning quick on the run. SV's toughest opponents (Pflugerville, Judson) are both road games this year, so if they win district they will definitely be battle-tested for the playoff run.

[lonny23]

Actually, SV plays AT Pflugerville this year. Pflugerville beat SV @ Ranger Stadium last year late in the game. There QB last year was lightning quick on the run. SV's toughest opponents (Pflugerville, Judson) are both road games this year, so if they win district they will definitely be battle-tested for the playoff run.
I think somebody from Houston is in for a surprise on December 10th.

[HOOKEM]

Even though I bled Red/Gray before I started bleeding Burnt orange, My unbiased opinion tells us we might want to watch out for Churchill this year. I found out that the schools overall acedemic scores do not measure up to standard. Must be getting better at something, maybe football?

[lonny23]

Even though I bled Red/Gray before I started bleeding Burnt orange, My unbiased opinion tells us we might want to watch out for Churchill this year. I found out that the schools overall acedemic scores do not measure up to standard. Must be getting better at something, maybe football?
They might be getting better. It's like the boy that cried wolf for me and Churchill. Madison and Roosevelt are good enough often enough that I always watch them. Churchill might be for real. They gave Judson a hard time last year, but have a different QB who might and probably is a better runner than passer. I kep waiting for Reagan and Churchill to start winning games.

[Mad Hatter]

hey judson has its inner squad scrim on the 12th and then scrims marshall on the 19th...just for ure guys info :)

Ill be there for sure i cant wait for the season to start...when is the HEB classic ???

[lonny23]

hey judson has its inner squad scrim on the 12th and then scrims marshall on the 19th...just for ure guys info :)

Ill be there for sure i cant wait for the season to start...when is the HEB classic ???
25-27 Aug 05.

I might go to the intersquad since that will be tougher competition than SA Marshall!

[Mad Hatter]

ive only seen judson scrim twice the year we won state in 02, and the year we lost to taft. so i think im good luck :)

[TexasRed6x]

I will be in the area on the 19th, were will the scrimage and time be for Judson and Marshall. I have to see as I think that Judson is very over rated.

[lonny23]

I will be in the area on the 19th, were will the scrimage and time be for Judson and Marshall. I have to see as I think that Judson is very over rated.
It's possible that Judson is overrated. They were anywhere from #1 to #6 in 2003 and finished around #42 that year. I don't think they're overrated, but I might change my tune early in the year.

[Mad Hatter]

Well with a new defensive and offensive coordinator who knows what will happen.

[Reaganrattler07]

It could turn out to be awesome or it could take a turn for a worse....I'm still leaning towards Judson to win District....not too sure about the playoffs.