Abe Martin update?

[Favpack]

Hey all - I'm too lazy to go find the previous thread. Anyone heard the latest on the Abe Martin field /renovation project? Someone told me the contractor was now saying the rain has them "behind schedule". You knew that was coming - they lose one day to rain and now they're behind. LP hosts Ike on Sept. 2, that ain't far off.

BTW - drove by the new South Dallas stadium - I guess it's the new Jesse Owens complex (you can see it from I-20) - it is quite impressive.

[LoboFan07]

Dont know any updates but I went by (since I was in Lufkin) and took pictures of good ole Abe Martin while I was there..

http://www.longviewlobofootball.com/Lobos/stadium/abemartin.html

Just in case you wanted to see (Taken July 5th)

[Favpack]

Thanks Lobo - nice shots taken. Since those pics is when we had the heavy rains -- it appears that not alot has been done from about 7/7-7/15. They say the field goes down very quickly - but the initial projection was to be complete by Aug. 2 - not too far away.

[LoboFan07]

Thats what happened with us...

We had a big rainful last year when they were about to put the carpet down and it screwed literally everything up...Thats why we have the wrinkles cause the cement or something didnt settle right beacuse of the rain.

[pack0808]

yeah we were on a huge dry dought in lufkin just a week ago and we get a few days of rain and that gives them an excuse. they were just waiting for that one!! i have never seen a project be on time. there is always delays and excuses. goes along with construction. i do not know why they bother setting a date?? should be nice when it is done though, the new state of the art safe turf and a scoreboard that is bigger then waco's. hopefully seating will be next.

[VB Pack Fan]

A rain deley , man we had one day of a three inch rain and that,s it.

[TheDuke]

Are they gonna add more seats? Looks kind of small? Can any of you Pack fans that were at The Woodlands game last year tell me how it compares in size to Moorehead Stadium?

[PackAttack2005]

The Abe Martin ground work was completed last week. The rain has not been a problem for weeks now because the new drainage system had been installed under about 3000 tons of crushed limestone from Georgetown, Texas. The new artificial grass installation will begin on the 25th.

The new scoreboard and replay screen will be installed and in operation this week.

Favpack, there is a direct source for your Lufkin Panther info.

www.lufkinpanthersports.com

[pack0808]

Are they gonna add more seats? Looks kind of small? Can any of you Pack fans that were at The Woodlands game last year tell me how it compares in size to Moorehead Stadium?


abe martin has about 10,000 i am almost positive?? Seating is a problem at lufkin because of the huge crowds. it is almost impossible to get a season ticket anymore. you have to get lucky. i have 8 that i am holding onto forever. lol

[TheDuke]

abe martin has about 10,000 i am almost positive?? Seating is a problem at lufkin because of the huge crowds. it is almost impossible to get a season ticket anymore. you have to get lucky. i have 8 that i am holding onto forever. lol


What about for the visitors? I know we will have a huge following fro this game! How does it compare in size of our stadium?

[PackAttack2005]

There are a couple of problems with the visitor side at Abe Martin. First, there are only 3600 seats on that side and second, there are Lufkin fans that fill up the visitors general admission section because there is no room on the home side, that leaves only 2400 seats for visiting fans and their band and drill teams. The home side is larger appox. 7200, but is mostly all season ticket holders, plus the Lufkin band and drill team. Lufkin ISD may need to bring in temporary seating for The Woodlands game and put the bands in the endzones. There is a need for more seating, everyone from the average fan to the school administration knows there is a need here. There are big issues with money and ADA, so I don't see the problem going away anytime soon. Remember, if there are approximately 10,000 seats at Abe Martin, the bands and drill teams take take up 1000 of those seats, leaving only 9000 for paying customers. The main difference between Abe and Moorhead is height and age of the stadium. Abe is 40 rows high, while Moorehead is lower profiled at about 28 rows high and Abe was built in 1973 and has had little renovations done until this year.

[Texasfrog]

abe martin has about 10,000 i am almost positive?? Seating is a problem at lufkin because of the huge crowds. it is almost impossible to get a season ticket anymore. you have to get lucky. i have 8 that i am holding onto forever. lol

I think Coach O'Quinn told me that it holds like 10,200. Safe to say its like 10,000.

[PackAttack2005]

Talked to Mrs. Davis who is the supervisor of ticket sales and she said that they have 9333 seats/tickets allowed for a game at Abe Martin. They can sell standing room only if needed for the grass areas. Now that is not counting the seating for the two bands and drill teams. You do the math, 10,000 is a good round number to use for Abe Martin but it is probably a little less than that.

[TheDuke]

There are a couple of problems with the visitor side at Abe Martin. First, there are only 3600 seats on that side and second, there are Lufkin fans that fill up the visitors general admission section because there is no room on the home side, that leaves only 2400 seats for visiting fans and their band and drill teams. The home side is larger appox. 7200, but is mostly all season ticket holders, plus the Lufkin band and drill team. Lufkin ISD may need to bring in temporary seating for The Woodlands game and put the bands in the endzones. There is a need for more seating, everyone from the average fan to the school administration knows there is a need here. There are big issues with money and ADA, so I don't see the problem going away anytime soon. Remember, if there are approximately 10,000 seats at Abe Martin, the bands and drill teams take take up 1000 of those seats, leaving only 9000 for paying customers. The main difference between Abe and Moorhead is height and age of the stadium. Abe is 40 rows high, while Moorehead is lower profiled at about 28 rows high and Abe was built in 1973 and has had little renovations done until this year.

Sounds like they should have kept the grass and used the money for seats! I am gonna have to get there at like 4:30 to get a damn seat!:mad::D

[PackAttack2005]

Well, Duke here is the deal, we had a sponsor that was willing to pay for the new artificial grass surface and the new replay screen. The seating issue involves big dollars, which is millions more than a sponsor could deal with and the school just doesn't have the funds. We are not The Woodlands, we don't have the same economic advantages to pass multi-million dollar bond packages to remodel our stadium or build a new stadium or a new high school like College Park. If there is any big money here in Lufkin, they don't invest it in the school. I think there is a future plan, two or three years down the road to have some improvements made for the seating at Abe Martin. Until then Duke, you will have to get there early. I think after this year, you guys in The Woodlands won't need to worry about coming back to Lufkin, because you probably won't get to see much of Lufkin after the 2005. Most likely in the 2006 realignment we will be moved out of 14-5A and into a new district in the Humble area. It is really too bad because I think we probably could have developed a nice rivalry over time.

[bleedgreen]

just take a wrecking ball to the old, worn-out place...play your games in the parking lot--LOL............

[GTown02]

just take a wrecking ball to the old, worn-out place...play your games in the parking lot--LOL............
Not a bad idea... :rolleyes: ;)

[PackAttack2005]

Bleed, I think will keep Abe around, beats playing in Doches. As least we won't have wrinkled turf like Lobo Stadium, how's that lawsuit going against vibra-whirl?

[TheDuke]

Well, Duke here is the deal, we had a sponsor that was willing to pay for the new artificial grass surface and the new replay screen. The seating issue involves big dollars, which is millions more than a sponsor could deal with and the school just doesn't have the funds. We are not The Woodlands, we don't have the same economic advantages to pass multi-million dollar bond packages to remodel our stadium or build a new stadium or a new high school like College Park. If there is any big money here in Lufkin, they don't invest it in the school. I think there is a future plan, two or three years down the road to have some improvements made for the seating at Abe Martin. Until then Duke, you will have to get there early. I think after this year, you guys in The Woodlands won't need to worry about coming back to Lufkin, because you probably won't get to see much of Lufkin after the 2005. Most likely in the 2006 realignment we will be moved out of 14-5A and into a new district in the Humble area. It is really too bad because I think we probably could have developed a nice rivalry over time.


I agree! I am not gonna be happy once we move out of this district, I think playing Lufkin has been the best team we have played in district even going back to the old McCullough High School days! Gonna be sad once we start building up that rivalry and then get realigned! About the stadium seating, I was just joking, your field is better then ours!
:D

[wide-e-wide]

A rain deley , man we had one day of a three inch rain and that,s it.

Hasn't rained one drop at my house since JUNE 1st..........now that is crazy.

[bleedgreen]

LOL, PackAttack---now that was funny!! you got me!!

[POB]

Didn't read all of the posts...but they just put up the jumbo tron...looks good too...

[PackAttack2005]

We were down on the field when they turned on the new replay scoreboard this afternoon, it was raining a little, so there weren't too many people around the stadium. When they turned that screen on, people showed up from everywhere, cars driving up, people getiing out of their cars getting on their cell phones and calling their friends about it. Man news traveled fast.

[wide-e-wide]

We were down on the field when they turned on the new replay scoreboard this afternoon, it was raining a little, so there weren't too many people around the stadium. When they turned that screen on, people showed up from everywhere, cars driving up, people getiing out of their cars getting on their cell phones and calling their friends about it. Man news traveled fast.

Sounds like a bunch of people that have no life.
JumboTron....wow.....that's impressive.
My question is ..................Does it make the team play any better?
And from the heavens....I hear...................NO IT DOESN'T.........
They need some more damn seats.....(bleep) a jumbotron....
You won a state title and numerous other honors without it..........why is it so important to have one now?
Tryin' to keep up with the Jones'...............

[LPFAN]

Man you are really starting to get old. You may have some funny posts sometimes but your smart aleck remarks are getting old. Who ever said that a Jumbotron would help the team. That is just about as cheap or sorry as me saying How is you drinking beer going to make you more of a man, or why in the heck do you need a computer or cell phone? That isn't going to make you a better human being. The truth is you probably drink beer and have a computer and cell phone because you just want to. When you started drinking beer were you keeping up with the party crowd? Are you keeping up with the Jones' by having a computer and a cell phone? I really doubt any of the coaches, players or fans are foolish enough to think the new additions to the stadium will make the Panthers a better team. Yes we need more seating in the stadium but obviously you do not know anything about why it has not been added yet. I have a feeling more people are annoyed by you on here and in person then what you realize. But you probably don't care. So I take it you have a great life huh. I can bet there are thousands of people that would say you nor I have a life If we are on the internet posting messages on a forum about Texas High School Football. Especially after 12am.

[PackAttack2005]

Wide, I thought you were our friend. So it is okay for Waco ISD to have a replay screen and we can't, right? I don't hear you bashing them for their nice screen and great facilities.

In between your Comedy Central specials, you can be very hard lined opinionated about other peoples business.

You know Wide, there has not been one person on this forum state that a replay screen will make your team play better, not one. I have heard everything from people wanting to stay with paper run throughs for their teams and that is it is against tradition and a sin to have a re-usable run through with velcro strips to why people have screwed up football programs and traditions because they don't play on real grass anymore.

To all of that I say BS, because every school can do what they want and I say go for it, whatever you want is fine with me. If you want to play in a cow pasture and use car lights to light the field, do it. What I don't want to hear is a someone sitting in the A/C behind a computer in Waco drinking beer telling us what we should and should not do in Lufkin about our athletic facilities. The same kind of people that tell others to get a life are usually the ones like you sitting on their tail and not doing anything in their community to get improvements like this for the school and the kids. I am not one of those people.

Maybe all this progress is not going to make a team play better or educate the kids better, but that is not the point here is it. I bet if adding a new artificial surface and a new replay scorebaord included free beer you would be all for it and yelling....bring it on baby!

I have a life Thank You and it is working to try and improve my community for the future of our kids in Lufkin.

[LPFAN]

Well put PackAttack. Especially the part about having a life. Usually people like that are all about themselves and what is in it for them. If it doesn't benefit them in any way then it is not good. Oh well. Maybe he is really a good person but the beer makes the worst come out of him. Speaking of beer that is funny what you said about that. If it was free he just might be all gung ho about that. Very Sad.

[wide-e-wide]

"other people's business"? I am from Lufkin and went to LHS...
so how am I giving opinions on other people's business?' I also have
two daughters that are in school in Lufkin......I'd say I'm entitled to an opinion on the subject.

My point is.............................they need more seats.
Not jumbotrons and fake grass and bells and whistles. SEATS!!
That should have come first. Before anything else.....they should
have added seats.
I could care less if WISD has a jumbotron.
And just so you will know....I don't have a cell phone. Never have owned one....never carried one...never borrowed one...never rented one.
I think they are-------------ready for this?-----UNNECESSARY.
If you want to talk to me that bad....you can wait until I get home.

Like I have stated on other threads...I love the plain teams. Plain unis...Plain helmets,plain stadium,and plain ol' good players. Lufkin used to be one of those teams. I hate to see them get caught up in all this unnecessary stuff. That's all.

And for the record I had two beers last night. I worked over 12 hours yesterday though...so maybe that's why I was a little grumpy.Sorry....

[PackAttack2005]

There has been plenty posted on why seats have not been added at Abe, so I am not going to try and go into great detail. It has everything to do with the American Disabilities Act and the cost to make that stadium compliant by today's standards. Your talking about several million dollars to expand seating at Abe Martin.

Wide you like things plain and ordinary, you don't like change, where do you get that humorous side ? I used to feel the same about change until I got run over by progress.

[wide-e-wide]

My humorous side comes from years of being pretty much an only child (my sister is 8 years older than me and moved out at 17) I was a latch-key kid that was forced to entertain myself. I learned to laugh at everything...or try and make other people laugh. That coupled with the fact that my Dad is a Marine with very little patience and ruled our house with an iron fist....made me a smart@ with a short fuse. Thousands of dollars in therapy and thousands of Miller Lites later...................I'm still working on it. Sorry.

I make way for progress most of the time. When it makes sense. When it doesn't........I question it.

[bleedgreen]

KABOOM!!! wide.....sounds like you pissed some LP fans off.....from past experience, that's not wise to do---they travel in packs!!-LOL.........i will say this about the jumbotron in Waco....it definitely did not help their playing at all--LOL...they are proof positive that jumbotrons will not make you better players...i believe that they even got worse--LOL.......personally, i'm happy that Abe got the jumbotron...we got a new field, but it has wrinkles in it(unless the problem has been fixed by now?).....as much money as the LISD rakes in, you would think that they would get us a jumbotron??

[wide-e-wide]

I'm sure as soon as they found out Lufkin was getting one...they began a mission of their own to get one. It's like those ******** suburbanites that buy a hummer, just because their friend got one....Anyone who says this isn't "keeping up with the Jones'" needs a check-up from the neck up.

BTW...thanks Bleedgreen.
You made my point exactly...I almost posted the exact same thing about Waco High...didn't do them much good did it? Well, at least other teams got to enjoy it while they were still in the playoffs. The fact remains....if you suck ...you suck...and if you have a jumbotron...you still suck...only now you suck twice and it's in slow motion...nobody has an answer for that point.

[supercentex]

Waco's scoreboard generates over 100,000 dollars a year in advertising..........it pumps money back into the schools.

[wide-e-wide]

I'm sure it does...but does it make the team play any better?

[LPFAN]

I'm sure as soon as they found out Lufkin was getting one...they began a mission of their own to get one. It's like those ******** suburbanites that buy a hummer, just because their friend got one....Anyone who says this isn't "keeping up with the Jones'" needs a check-up from the neck up.

BTW...thanks Bleedgreen.
You made my point exactly...I almost posted the exact same thing about Waco High...didn't do them much good did it? Well, at least other teams got to enjoy it while they were still in the playoffs. The fact remains....if you suck ...you suck...and if you have a jumbotron...you still suck...only now you suck twice and it's in slow motion...nobody has an answer for that point.
Do you still not get it. That is not even a point you are making. Oh dang......widey stumped everyone. We are at a loss for words. We give up you win. It seems you just have to dog something or someone one way or another. I guess you can not sleep good at night unless you knock someone or something for the day huh. No one in their (sober) right mind thinks the Jumbotron has anything to do with how good a team is. But you obviously think that is how everyone else thinks. So what is with you. I don't remember you being that way a long time ago. Oh well.

[wide-e-wide]

Again you are making my point for me...
If it doesn't help the team, then why is it necessary?
It's something to brag about...and so and so has one....so now we
need one...that's it. I am the only one with enough balls to say that's what it is.

And I'm not "that way" I'm just saying that it is unecessary...that's all.
And that I am not impressed by it. It represents everything that HS football IS NOT....commercialized,corporate,and selling out for money.
HS football is "supposed" to be about the kids. Not how much money we can bring in. Or how cool we look with our fancy scoreboard. Somewhere...Bear Bryant and Tom Landry are rolling in their graves. Because this is not what it's all about. Of course ol' Tom had ol' school beliefs and wouldn't change his ideas.........we all know what that got him don't we?

If it's all about money...then let's put Peltier stickers on all the helmets....Dixon furniture patches on the unis....Make Outlaw were a Ray's drive-in cap during all interviews...why stop at the scoreboard?
Let's pimp these kids for all they are worth. Because that is what it's all about right? money?.............Meanwhile, the same kids have outdated and sub-par books and are far behind the rest of the state in test scores and learning as a whole...but hey ...we got a fancy scoreboard so (bleep) 'em.
Give me a damn break.

[LPFAN]

Again you are making my point for me...
If it doesn't help the team, then why is it necessary?
It's something to brag about...and so and so has one....so now we
need one...that's it. I am the only one with enough balls to say that's what it is.

And I'm not "that way" I'm just saying that it is unecessary...that's all.
And that I am not impressed by it. It represents everything that HS football IS NOT....commercialized,corporate,and selling out for money.
HS football is "supposed" to be about the kids. Not how much money we can bring in. Or how cool we look with our fancy scoreboard. Somewhere...Bear Bryant and Tom Landry are rolling in their graves. Because this is not what it's all about. Of course ol' Tom had ol' school beliefs and wouldn't change his ideas.........we all know what that got him don't we?

If it's all about money...then let's put Peltier stickers on all the helmets....Dixon furniture patches on the unis....Make Outlaw were a Ray's drive-in cap during all interviews...why stop at the scoreboard?
Let's pimp these kids for all they are worth. Because that is what it's all about right? money?.............Meanwhile, the same kids have outdated and sub-par books and are far behind the rest of the state in test scores and learning as a whole...but hey ...we got a fancy scoreboard so (bleep) 'em.
Give me a damn break.
Well if you are going to go that rout the same could be said about college football. They players are "pimped out" in college ball. Do you complain about all that your beloved Longhorns have. And why do you say more seats at Abe. That would not help the team play better either but you sure make it a point to say that seats at abe should have been a priority. Yes the stadium is packed out on game night but I have yet to see anyone turned away from watching the game. If you want to talk about education then I would think you would say forget adding additional seating and use all the funds for books etc.... So which is it? Do you want more seats or more books?

[wide-e-wide]

Of course I would say "new" books over any of this crap.
I moved to Waco over a year ago. My daughter was an honor roll
student in Lufkin. Within the first month of school here, she was struggling.
She was waaaaaaaaay behind. That alone tells you how much emphasis is put on education in Lufkin.

As far as the Longhorns go............your comparing apples to oranges (burnt oranges)
The players at UT aren't minors...they are adults. And they are pimped by the school ...your right.
And now you officially know someone that was turned away.....tried to go see Lufkin at Abe last year and couldn't get a ticket. I guess if that happens this year...I can just park alongside Lufkin Ave. and watch the replays on the jumbotron huh?

I'm just saying......if I were a teacher at LHS and saw my students with old books and sub-par test scores....and LISD was putting up big scoreboards and fake grass...I would be raisin' 9 kinds of hell that's all.

[LPFAN]

Copy that. I read you Lima Charlie.

[wide-e-wide]

Repeat your last talker.
The ship is listing severely to the port side and our comm is skewed.
This is a red-dash alert coming to you in two parts.
Standby....
Part one-who the hell is Lima Charlie (LC? LC Greenwood? Lucky Charms?
Lando Calrissian? Jose Lima?)
Part two- Be advised...cold beer is good. That is all.
Wideman out.

Man that brought back some really good memories. I miss my beloved Navy.

[LPFAN]

Repeat your last talker.
The ship is listing severely to the port side and our comm is skewed.
This is a red-dash alert coming to you in two parts.
Standby....
Part one-who the hell is Lima Charlie (LC? LC Greenwood? Lucky Charms?
Lando Calrissian? Jose Lima?)
Part two- Be advised...cold beer is good. That is all.
Wideman out.

Man that brought back some really good memories. I miss my beloved Navy.
Man I thought you were prior service. Lima Charlie means Loud and Clear. At least sometimes it does. It did in the Army anyway.

[wide-e-wide]

Man I thought you were prior service. Lima Charlie means Loud and Clear. At least sometimes it does. It did in the Army anyway.

Army? that explains everything.
Lima Charlie means absolutely nothing in the Navy...sorry.
Sounds more like CB lingo to me.

Hey did you notice that Javorskie is playing against his brother Jermichael Finley in the All-Star game on Tuesday?
That's weird huh?
How the hell is Lufkin considered north and Diboll is south?
Did the cut-off line run right down the middle of AC?
I also heard from numerous sources (all 'Horns fans so take it for what it's worth) That the train weighed in at a hefty 267........WTF?
or Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I think that one carries over from Navy to Army.

[LPFAN]

Army? that explains everything.
Lima Charlie means absolutely nothing in the Navy...sorry.
Sounds more like CB lingo to me.

Hey did you notice that Javorskie is playing against his brother Jermichael Finley in the All-Star game on Tuesday?
That's weird huh?
How the hell is Lufkin considered north and Diboll is south?
Did the cut-off line run right down the middle of AC?
I also heard from numerous sources (all 'Horns fans so take it for what it's worth) That the train weighed in at a hefty 267........WTF?
or Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I think that one carries over from Navy to Army.
Yeah I saw it on tv the other day. Of course I had heard about it awhile back. I was wondering the same thing too. How in the world did they put one on the north team and the other on the south? Maybe the line was at AC like you said. When I saw Lane at the end of the school year he was running sprints with Zeke Fancher on one of the practice fields at the high school. He still looked good as far as his size goes. They interviewed him the other day and he still looked about the same. He definitely did not look like he was 267. If he did get that big it must be the good grub he is being fed at A&M. But I doubt he is really that big. I am sure you know they will be meeting up again in the years to come since Jermichael will be at UT. Growing up I was always a UT fan but have been an A&M fan for the last 3 years because of Reggie and the other former Lufkin players that are there or are heading there. My son is a big UT fan. I like them both but now the edge goes to the team with the Lufkin boys.

[PackAttack2005]

Talked to Lane at the 7 on 7 in College Station, he said he was about 245.

[LPFAN]

Talked to Lane at the 7 on 7 in College Station, he said he was about 245.
That sounds about right. I just knew he looked about 250 at the most but 245 sounds about right. Do you (or does he)expect him to get some playing time this year? I would love to see him and Reggie out on the field at the same time. I am a big H.S. football fan but I know that the College level is much different so I was just wondering what his chances were.

[PackAttack2005]

Of course he told me he expected to play next year but then most guys alway hope to do that anyway. I know the step up is tougher than most think, especially at the Division I level. Everything depends on what the coaches want first, then on how hard he works in August will determin whether he will play or is red shirted. You got to remember that he hasn't even put on the pads against the big boys yet. The best thing is to wait and see what happens. As far as the Mcneal and Lane combo, I don't know because I want what is best for Lane. I really think Reggie should have red shirted his first year and I feel the same about Lane. it helps them get use to college life and gives them a year to develope and grow up as a player. That way you don't waste a whole year on the bench.

[LPFAN]

Of course he told me he expected to play next year but then most guys alway hope to do that anyway. I know the step up is tougher than most think, especially at the Division I level. Everything depends on what the coaches want first, then on how hard he works in August will determin whether he will play or is red shirted. You got to remember that he hasn't even put on the pads against the big boys yet. The best thing is to wait and see what happens. As far as the Mcneal and Lane combo, I don't know because I want what is best for Lane. I really think Reggie should have red shirted his first year and I feel the same about Lane. it helps them get use to college life and gives them a year to develope and grow up as a player. That way you don't waste a whole year on the bench.
Yeah that is what I thought. You make a good point about red shirting. That makes alot of sense. It will still be exciting to watch Lane develop over the next several years. Oh by the way, is he going to be a fullback or running back? I am looking forward to watching Reggie have a great year.

[PACK '97]

the replay screen is in place and working...if you would like to see the final result, go to the link below and click on "HERE" in the middle of the page to see a short clip.

http://www.lufkinpanthersports.com/

[wide-e-wide]

the replay screen is in place and working...if you would like to see the final result, go to the link below and click on "HERE" in the middle of the page to see a short clip.

http://www.lufkinpanthersports.com/

Please tell me they are not going to leave the old scoreboard underneath it.
That's like puttin' spinners on a Honda CRX.

[pack0808]

Please tell me they are not going to leave the old scoreboard underneath it.
That's like puttin' spinners on a Honda CRX.



lmao wide!! i think they are. i was thinking the same thing.

[dragonsdaddy]

at the risk of sounding uppity, my relatives out in the sticks and their friends have been known to stack up their abandoned refrigerators/washing machines right beside the house. you never know when the spare parts might come in handy. keeping the old scoreboard just under the newer one would be so stereotypical. i vote yes. you all are comfortable with your beverly hillbilliness, right?

[pack0808]

what ever are you talking about ddaddy?? well, i do keep a tooth handy if the one i have happens to fall out. ;) elmers glue was a great invention. :D

[Favpack]

Unless my memory is really bad - they simply gutted the middle of the scoreboard and stuck the video screen portion there- but I guess that could be a complete new scoreboard. It's not Reliant Stadium quality, but not bad either.

Question for the forum - the real kicker for replay will be the ability of the roving cameras to film professionally and the editor to pick the correct shot right? I'm thinking the average fan may envision Monday Night Football quality - whereas I know If I were manning that camera - I might miss the ball altogether. So....unless you have really good cameral volunteers or are willing to pay professionals, the instant replay may be a letdown?

[LPFAN]

Unless my memory is really bad - they simply gutted the middle of the scoreboard and stuck the video screen portion there- but I guess that could be a complete new scoreboard. It's not Reliant Stadium quality, but not bad either.

Question for the forum - the real kicker for replay will be the ability of the roving cameras to film professionally and the editor to pick the correct shot right? I'm thinking the average fan may envision Monday Night Football quality - whereas I know If I were manning that camera - I might miss the ball altogether. So....unless you have really good cameral volunteers or are willing to pay professionals, the instant replay may be a letdown?
If I am not mistaken I believe the people that will be running the system to include the cameras are paid professionals.

[wide-e-wide]

at the risk of sounding uppity, my relatives out in the sticks and their friends have been known to stack up their abandoned refrigerators/washing machines right beside the house. you never know when the spare parts might come in handy. keeping the old scoreboard just under the newer one would be so stereotypical. i vote yes. you all are comfortable with your beverly hillbilliness, right?

If there is any money left over we can dig a cement pond 'fer Ellie Mae.
And pay people to stand at the gates when the game is over and hand out minners 'fer Saturday Mornin' fishin'.

[PackAttack2005]

If there is any money left Wide, we will send you a case of beer and you can chase Eli Mae around the cement pond or whatever you do best.

The score board at Abe is only four (4) years old, it has been reconditioned and repainted. There are others that are similar to what Lufkin has, the only difference is we dont have the ability to digitally dispaly a teams name on the scoreboard and we did not include a advertising flip board in the middle.

Wide, you should be proud because we saved about $35,000 not buying a new scoreboard, that way we can buy more books and shoes for all the kids.

http://www.daktronics.com/photo_detail.cfm?cc=cc03454

http://www.daktronics.com/photo_detail.cfm?cc=CC04219

http://www.daktronics.com/photo_detail.cfm?cc=CC04202

http://www.lufkinpanthersports.com/Gallery/Video%20Screen/2.jpg

[wide-e-wide]

yadda,yadda,yadda....back to the part where you buy me beer.
When does that happen?

[PackAttack2005]

Wide, I think they are filling the cement pond with beer, will that work?

[LPFAN]

Hey PackAttack was I correct about paid professionals running the cameras and the video screen? It seems I read that awhile back on the LufkinPantherSports website. I went back to see where it was but could not find it.

[wide-e-wide]

Wide, I think they are filling the cement pond with beer, will that work?

Fill it with beer?...BRILLIANT!
The sad part is, I really think that would be awesome.

[pack0808]

i wonder if it would sting when you opened your eyes having a tea party in the pool of beer?? :)

[lufkin_82]

Sounds like they should have kept the grass and used the money for seats! I am gonna have to get there at like 4:30 to get a damn seat!:mad::Dreally not a bad idea... i live in lufkin and have season tickets, may not need em after this year seeing as i may be playing friday nights, but for home games were there around 6 and heck away games were there about 4:45 to tailgate

[wide-e-wide]

i wonder if it would sting when you opened your eyes having a tea party in the pool of beer?? :)


You know better.....Open your eyes? C'mon...
Open your mouth rookie....hahahahaha

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Are yall gonna tailgate in P.A.? If so I want a turkey leg, some brisket please. I'll bring the BEER!! LOL

[wide-e-wide]

Wasn't gonna go to the game...but Scooter is bringin' beer....so
I'm there.
Note to Air Force guy....never try and buy Navy guy beer...You don't
have enough money. hahahaha

[TheDuke]

Are yall gonna tailgate in P.A.? If so I want a turkey leg, some brisket please. I'll bring the BEER!! LOL

Better bring A LOT OF BEER SCOOTER!!
:D :D

[Lufkin_Class_Of_08]

went to ole abe on wed to see the field...looks nice...i think we should have painted a big LP on the 50 and in teh endzone put a white LUFKIN in teh middle on a purple background...but it still looks good as is

[PackAttack2005]

Why put a big LP in the middle, when we have always had the big Panther there? They were going to have a big purple helmet with PACK on it until some of us talked them out of it. Yea, it is looks good as it is. The Purple endzones would have been nice, maybe next year that could be added. This field is the same type, Real Grass TM PRO, as installed in Texas Stadium and the AlamoDome, same crew and company , Sportfield.

It looks great to me



http://www.lufkinpanthersports.com/

http://www.realgrass.com/sportfield_content.html

[wide-e-wide]

I was in Lufkin last weekend...and I have to be honest...
I drove by ...and I didn't see 1million dollars...I saw a crappy
stadium ....that needs more seats....and reeeeeeeally needs
some paint....It looks ridiculous.
Congratulations Lufkin.....you just put spinners on a rusted
1979 RX7.
I graduated from Lufkin...so I feel I'm entitled to my opinion.

[LPFAN]

I was in Lufkin last weekend...and I have to be honest...
I drove by ...and I didn't see 1million dollars...I saw a crappy
stadium ....that needs more seats....and reeeeeeeally needs
some paint....It looks ridiculous.
Congratulations Lufkin.....you just put spinners on a rusted
1979 RX7.
I graduated from Lufkin...so I feel I'm entitled to my opinion.
The hubcab spinners that come in a box of 4 at Wal-Mart? I must have some of those. Forget the real ones.......... Now I think the field looks good and the screen looks nice but I know the seating issue will not go away for alot of Lufkin fans. Maybe one day in the near future we will get more seating.......and you can have your special seat when you come visit. As for me I only had season tickets for 2001. Since then I have been sitting on the visitor side for most but not all of the games. In 2002 I saw an old friend watching the game with his grandfather and uncle and since then we always sit together and watch the game. You probably know Solly. They love to sit on that side and plus we usually get great seats. It gets crazy sometimes with our fans and the opponents fans talking alot of noise. It is really funny. Plus their band usually jams much better then ours during the game. It pumps me up and makes me want to go out there and play(and get my head knocked off) in the game too. Maybe all of us old men in this forum should get together somewhere and play some football against each other. That would be trip...Are you game?

[dragons08]

Maybe all of us old men in this forum should get together somewhere and play some football against each other. That would be trip...Are you game?
i wouldnt like to hear about any of you old fellers getting hurt haha sorry my bad..

[wide-e-wide]

Dude you don't want none of Wideman....I'm still 6ft and 238....I'll get full of Miller Lite and smash on 'yall.hahahahahaha
Yeah...I remember Solly....he loaned me his girlfriend once...seriously...
K Salinas....that's funny.

If I come to a Lufkin game...we will hook up bro.
I'll sit on the visitors side with 'yall.
And news flash...I'll be drunk.

[dragons08]

Dude you don't want none of Wideman....I'm still 6ft and 238....I'll get full of Miller Lite and smash on 'yall.hahahahahaha
Yeah...I remember Solly....he loaned me his girlfriend once...seriously...
K Salinas....that's funny.

If I come to a Lufkin game...we will hook up bro.
I'll sit on the visitors side with 'yall.
And news flash...I'll be drunk.
i wouldnt be bragging about going to a game drunk, not the best of ideas..

[LPFAN]

Dude you don't want none of Wideman....I'm still 6ft and 238....I'll get full of Miller Lite and smash on 'yall.hahahahahaha
Yeah...I remember Solly....he loaned me his girlfriend once...seriously...
K Salinas....that's funny.

If I come to a Lufkin game...we will hook up bro.
I'll sit on the visitors side with 'yall.
And news flash...I'll be drunk.
And you will probably be joining in on the trash talk towards the visiting teams fans too huh. Just don't get us kicked out of the game. I don't remember a K. Salinas. Where was she from? Solly and I usually hook up at the games in Houston or the playoff games too. He lives in the Klien area right by the stadium.

[wide-e-wide]

Dude it aint no secret....
If I'm there ....and I'm breathing...
It's pretty much common knowledge.

[dragons08]

Dude it aint no secret....
If I'm there ....and I'm breathing...
It's pretty much common knowledge.
haha, i never seen some one so proud of....beer

[wide-e-wide]

Aaaaah beer....my one weakness.

[dragons08]

Aaaaah beer....my one weakness.
my weakness is food, im a sucker for food, matabilism is a great thing, if i didnt have that, id be fat, plus im a sucker for money

[PackAttack2005]

Wide, your obsession for drinking is nothing to be proud about. Especially about proclaiming to come to a Panther game drunk. Such a fine example to project on a high school message board. Hmmm, 6' 238? How much of that is beer gut? I am not impressed with your type, not even your humor can cover up the truth that your probably an alcoholic mess.

As far as your opinion about Abe Martin, I guess your entitled. However since you are in Waco and was not a part of the process to get this project done, your opinion is not worth much to me.

[dragons08]

Wide, your obsession for drinking is nothing to be proud about. Especially about proclaiming to come to a Panther game drunk. Such a fine example to project on a high school message board. Hmmm, 6' 238? How much of that is beer gut? I am not impressed with your type, not even your humor can cover up the truth that your probably an alcoholic mess.

As far as your opinion about Abe Martin, I guess your entitled. However since you are in Waco and was not a part of the process to get this project done, your opinion is not worth much to me.
ouch, took a shot to wideman below the belt

[pack0808]

Wide, your obsession for drinking is nothing to be proud about. Especially about proclaiming to come to a Panther game drunk. Such a fine example to project on a high school message board. Hmmm, 6' 238? How much of that is beer gut? I am not impressed with your type, not even your humor can cover up the truth that your probably an alcoholic mess.

As far as your opinion about Abe Martin, I guess your entitled. However since you are in Waco and was not a part of the process to get this project done, your opinion is not worth much to me.

Hey PA that is my long time friend you are talking about and i almost could guarantee you would not say that to his face!! I have been friendly with you for a long time besides a few times in the past when you accused me of strange things, but when you decide to insult my friend you insult me. Sometimes you take anal to a whole other level PA. I bet if you weighed 238 about 200 of that would be anal weight!! ;) The guy was saying a joke on a football site and there was no reason to get personal in my opinion. If you do not like his opinion on the stadium fine!!, i do not agree with it either, but you do not have to get personal. We are spending almost 2 g's on stadium advertising because we think the scoreboard will be such a great success by the way. We would have bought the gold package but they were bought out. Mike said they are basically having to turn down money because of the response that they have to show the football game, players etc etc sometime?? lol I am thrilled to hear that!! I personally am excited about the stadium and how it looks now!! We would be lying to ourself if we both said seating was not a problem though. It obviously is!! One step at a time i know!!

[PackAttack2005]

Pack08, he may be your long time friend, but you do not need to take offense, it was not aimed at you. What Wide said about Abe Martin was not meant as a joke, it was just his uninformed opinion. It is easy to have those opinions when you are making them from afar and were not part of the work. I also have grown tired and weary of his beer humor on a high school site. I am very involved in the advertising packages and stadium issues personally, so that probably makes me more defensive about these statements than anything else. By the way thank you for your advertising support, you will like what you see this year. P08, I realize that our stadium is not Waco ISD, Dragon Stadium or Grande Stadium in Midland. I know there is still much to do to bring Abe Martin up to date with other venues. That was not my real problem with his statement. His joke about coming to a Panther game drunk, whether he meant it as a joke or for real was not funny to me. I was not anal, I took offense that he implied it would be funny to show up at a high school game drunk. I am sorry if I offend you or Wide, but I didn't think that was something for him to try to joke about. PA08, what strange accusations are you talking about, I don't recall ever doing that.

[wide-e-wide]

Like I would roll up to HS game drunk?...c'mon dude I was kidding.
Are you drunk?...Good Lord...as far as me being a alcoholic mess...I doubt
it. I enjoy cold cervaza as much as the next guy...but an alcoholic I am not.
And since I have two girls that are in school in Lufkin...It is my business. I come there at least once a month...so I am hardly giving my opinion from a far.

I am the same height and weight that I was in 10th grade. So unless I had a beer belly back then too.....

It was a joke...that's all. You are the only person that took it seriously.
I'm sure I would have been the first person to ever show up at a football game drunk..Naaaaaah, that's never happened before has it? You don't get out much do you?

[PackAttack2005]

Wide, this is subject has really gotten off topic, my bad, I just have a problem with joking around about drinking on a high school site. I have my deep seeded reasons for that. If I am the only one, so be it. Now, I will have to say your other stuff is halarious. In the future I will try and not take your remarks so literal and be more open minded and less judgmental, that is not my place here.

By the way I get around quite well, been there and done what you guys have talked about doing when you all were younger. I am older now, so I move in much more structured circles now than I used to travel. God, family and marriage have worked well for me. I was around several years before the Greening, Cathcart, Wideman, Wallace and R.Jones group had their thing going. Had Richard Jones arrested twice for vandelizing my property on Allendale back in the 80's.

[pack0808]

Wow!! I had no idea you used to my neighbor PA?? Wideman lived on Allendale and I was in the crazy circle called Tanglewood with the infamous and very idiotic R Jones!! He belongs where he is at and that is prison. I probably have fought him 30 times and i think i lost 29!! lol I know i got one win in because i never will forget that one but that was about it!! He was older and bigger though. I would never back down though!! Marvo was no match for him either. I used to idolize that kind of tough person and i tried to imitate the tough guy in my late teens and early 20's in hs and college but now i know that kind of stuff is beyond silly and it gets you no where in life but prison or death. God, family, and job comes first now!! You learn with age and i learned the hard way when i almost died. lol I still have a long way to go and i still enjoy some beer now and then i must admit. Now i am really curious who you are because i have no idea?? PA, you take some things too serious for me but you probably have your reasons. The few things in the past was when you accused me of wanting to secretely take down the panther program or something because i said a few things that you thought i should not that were considered inside info by you. You now know that i am just a huge panther fan that is just excited about my alma mater and what i said was in innocence. That was several years ago i believe?? I have nothing against you at all!! You seem like a good and decent human being but i am a very very loyal friend and when i feel somebody is coming at my friends i have to defend. It is just my nature. This is forgotten about as far as i am concern and it is absolutely not a big deal at all!! It was just a disagreement on a football board nothing more. Maybe we will meet at a game and can have a convo about the pack because i know we are both huge supporters of the team. Heck, I might have already have met you for all i know?? Hey but i can relate to what you were saying, i have to be very careful what i joke about around my father because he get irriated with me sense of humor at times. lol Hopefully we can talk in the future and you can see my million kids!! ;) ok just 4 and wide has me smoked!! I think he has 20?? ;)

[pack0808]

sorry about getting way off topic by the way!!

[wide-e-wide]

Wide, this is subject has really gotten off topic, my bad, I just have a problem with joking around about drinking on a high school site. I have my deep seeded reasons for that. If I am the only one, so be it. Now, I will have to say your other stuff is halarious. In the future I will try and not take your remarks so literal and be more open minded and less judgmental, that is not my place here.

By the way I get around quite well, been there and done what you guys have talked about doing when you all were younger. I am older now, so I move in much more structured circles now than I used to travel. God, family and marriage have worked well for me. I was around several years before the Greening, Cathcart, Wideman, Wallace and R.Jones group had their thing going. Had Richard Jones arrested twice for vandelizing my property on Allendale back in the 80's.

If you were on Allendale in the '80's we definitely know you. I was there almost that entire decade.
No harm,no foul my brother....Don't ever take me that serious...I am "usually" just joking.
As far a 'Ol Abe goes...I would just like to see it get a facelift...on the outside.IMO...It looks terrible. But if you splash purple paint all over it...It would look like a big can of NuGrape...so I don't know what they should do to it.

[pack0808]

LMAO at Nugrape!! :) Come on wide it does not look that bad!! My grandparents from Iowa saw it a few years ago and they could not believe that was a hs stadium and said it was the best they ever seen. If they ever saw a beautiful stadium like Waco's etc etc they would be in for a real shock. I guess in Texas we are just spoiled when it comes to our hs football stadiums!! Funny how many in Lufkin think Abe is a dump but most other hs from other states would absolutely kill to have a stadium like that. I think it looks ok but i do agree it needs a little more of a facelift. The scoreboard and turf will be nice. With the hell they had to go through to do this much you would understand why they can only do so much so often wide.

[wide-e-wide]

Oh I know they went through hell to get this much.
I just think adding seats cost money...but it also makes money...
Plus we could all stop sitting on each other's laps every time there is
a big game.That's all......

[pack0808]

I completely agree with that!! I thought seating should be the top priority but i am sure there was a reason. I am sure the cost's would have been crazy!! But you right that it would pay off in the long run. I think the scoreboard and turf will payoff also. More teams ranging from 1a to 4a will play playoff games at abe now because of the perks of the turf and the scoreboard. That means some good revenue for LISD

[wide-e-wide]

You're right. I just think they did it backwards.
I would like to have seen more seats added first.
I heard something about adding TV's in the bathrooms.
Those things would last all of about 1/2 of a game...
and they would be either broke or stolen.

[pack0808]

I heard the cost's would have been astronomical because they would have to restructure the whole stadium to add more seating. Some of the anal types in Lufkin that never believe in ever spending money on sport's would have had a heart attack. They sure do not have a problem with taking the money the sport's like football produces though. :rolleyes:

[wide-e-wide]

That reminds me of a story an older Master Cheif told me when I was in the Navy. It seems that the citizens of Norfolk,Va. were complaining about drunk
Sailors (imagine that) tearing up the city...fighting...and carrying on...So they wanted all the Navy to leave the Hampton roads area...Long story short...And old Admiral had every one of the Sailors in the area paid in $2 dollar bills the next pay cycle....Wasn't long before all of the local businesses were complaining about this swarm of $2 bills they were getting.

The Admiral's response...."Exactly....wonder where all those $2 dollar bills are coming from?"
hahahahaha As far as I know that is a true story.

[PowerPack'd]

I heard the cost's would have been astronomical because they would have to restructure the whole stadium to add more seating. Some of the anal types in Lufkin that never believe in ever spending money on sport's would have had a heart attack. They sure do not have a problem with taking the money the sport's like football produces though. :rolleyes:

I am not an engineer, and somebody has probably already thought about this, but it seems to me like the only place to add seating is in the north end zone. That is unless you want to add to the visitor's side and who wants to do that!

Also, I am hopeful that the supposed extra revenue the turf and scoreboard will generate will go toward future enhancements at Abe Martin. Does anyone know if that is the plan?

[wide-e-wide]

That's what I was thinking. Just add some seats to the end-zone.
Make that the student section....they are never paying attention to
the game anyway...

Before somebody smashes me for saying that......think about it.
If you have ever sat in the student section...you know I'm telling the
truth.

[PowerPack'd]

And not to sound unsupportive of the band, but what about putting them there also. Don't the kids like loud music!

[wide-e-wide]

I wanted to mention that too...but I was afraid some band mom would
rip my head off for trying to put 'Lil Johnny in the endzone.
Hey Lady---we can hear 'em...you could put them in the Mall parking lot and we could still hear 'em.

[lonny23]

I was looking at that visitor seating at Abe, too. The seating is OK on the Lufkin side, but there are way too few seats on the visitor side. The stands go high and they can add on both ends. End zone seats would work, too. PSJA has a stadium that's starting to look like Bristol Motor Speedway!

There is a great beauty in seats on the visitor side. You get more playoff games, the other team brings more fans, and Lufkin people can sit over there, too. If I have the girls with me, I sit on the visitor side at Judson games when there aren't a lot of fans over there. You can't beat having a good seat and plenty of room.

[wide-e-wide]

In the words of the Fonz....exactamundo!

[wide-e-wide]

Almost 1500 views on a thread about ol' Abe?
Whooooda Thunkit?

[PackAttack2005]

When there are long periods of wet weather in Lufkin, the kids can't go to expanded stadium seating to practice, but they can go to an artificial grass field and indoor facility that we now will have.
These improvements will go a long way towards providing relief for the major overcrowded conditions that exist in the LHS athletic complex and for the band during bad weather and wet field conditions. This was the main reason these improvements were made first by the school district. The bonus in this deal, is now the artificial grass and replay screen will also provide revenue from playoff games, band competitions and advertising that can go for future improvements on campus and may help add the needed seating for Abe Martin. The current renovations are something that fills an immediate need and can be used year round. Added seating for Abe Martin was not the most crucial need, your talking about only 5 games per year against investing in facilities you can use 365 days a year if needed. At some point in the future the Lufkin school district will need to address the biggest financial issue regarding the ADA ( American Disabilities Act) regulations for adding seating at Abe Martin, but for now the current improvements were a good first step by the Lufkin ISD to address immeditate needs for the kids at the school.

You see there is more to this whole deal than just adding seats and with ADA involved, everything you say about seating is easier said than done at this point. I don't believe there is anyone in the school district that doesn't realize that expanded seating is necessary. The question is how can it be done to meet ADA compliance and at what cost? That is your 5 or 6 million dollar question.

[pack0808]

Hey PA i think me and wide figured out who you are?? well it was mostly wide!! ;) Are you tall and did you live across from the witliff's?? It is just bugging me and i had to ask?? I guess i can just pc you next time but i wanted to post this because wide needs clear up some space so i can pc him.

[wide-e-wide]

All cleared up bro....shoot it to me.

[Bootsdaddy]

When there are long periods of wet weather in Lufkin, the kids can't go to expanded stadium seating to practice, but they can go to an artificial grass field and indoor facility that we now will have.
These improvements will go a long way towards providing relief for the major overcrowded conditions that exist in the LHS athletic complex and for the band during bad weather and wet field conditions. This was the main reason these improvements were made first by the school district. The bonus in this deal, is now the artificial grass and replay screen will also provide revenue from playoff games, band competitions and advertising that can go for future improvements on campus and may help add the needed seating for Abe Martin. The current renovations are something that fills an immediate need and can be used year round. Added seating for Abe Martin was not the most crucial need, your talking about only 5 games per year against investing in facilities you can use 365 days a year if needed. At some point in the future the Lufkin school district will need to address the biggest financial issue regarding the ADA ( American Disabilities Act) regulations for adding seating at Abe Martin, but for now the current improvements were a good first step by the Lufkin ISD to address immeditate needs for the kids at the school.

You see there is more to this whole deal than just adding seats and with ADA involved, everything you say about seating is easier said than done at this point. I don't believe there is anyone in the school district that doesn't realize that expanded seating is necessary. The question is how can it be done to meet ADA compliance and at what cost? That is your 5 or 6 million dollar question.


Guys, there's almost always plenty of room on the visitor's side. I get there about 6-tell the ladies i want a reserved seat up high(row 30 and up). With no Nac, Lee, Longview, or Katy on the home schedule this year there will be plenty of room. The Woodlands game will be the only game where the visitor side will be packed.

[Favpack]

Just got back from Abe guys - still sweating - lol - hot and sticky today. The field is looking great, goal posts are being planted and the black stuff looks like it's down.

I also thought this was interesting..... As many know that enter from the north side - we have a group of 10-40 freeloaders that sit in their lawn chairs on a grassy area outside the chain link fence on the north side. Not a bad seat really - certainly not for free. Well, when I went by today workers were putting the aluminum strips inside the chain link fence to make it where you can't see through the fence - kind of like what you may see in some folks backyard - a privacy chain link fence if you will.

Some may disagree, but I say bravo to this move. Let the freeloaders buy a ticket and pay their share of these renovations. I guess someone could stand in their folding chair and still kind of see over the chain link fence - but it would be no fun. Good move I say by the administrators.

The covered practice field is not looking good. The updated "completion" date is now "November" (I'm assuming November 30th) and that appears more than a stretch. I drove by and saw one guy with a shovel goofing off. Granted it was cloudy and a bit wet, but, hey, the players were practicing hard right beside this lone worker. I wonder if this thing gets done before '05 ends?

[wide-e-wide]

Ohh great...so now there goes 10-40 more seats that the place doesn't have...

[Bootsdaddy]

Ohh great...so now there goes 10-40 more seats that the place doesn't have...

Like i said...unless you just gotta sit on the home side...there is PLENTY of room on the visitors side. You might have to climb some steps but I always sit on the 50 yard line. This year the game against the Woodz will be the only one crowded on the visitor side. Last year the Nacogdoches game was the first time I have ever seen them put people on the grass. If you want to see the game there are enough seats. The Conroe and Klein schools dont travel like Longview and Tyler Lee. Some more seating on the home side would be nice but personally I would rather sit on the 50 yard line on the visitor side than to have a crappy seat on the 10 yard line on the home side.

[wide-e-wide]

That's very true...but unfortunately...the only game I'll going to at Abe this year IS The Woodlands game. Sucks to be me huh?

[Bootsdaddy]

That's very true...but unfortunately...the only game I'll going to at Abe this year IS The Woodlands game. Sucks to be me huh?

Get there early...at least by 6!

[wide-e-wide]

Oh I will...believe me.
I will leave Waco at about noon.

[LPFAN]

Oh I will...believe me.
I will leave Waco at about noon.
Hey Wide all you have to do is tell me how many tickets you need and I will be there early to get them. Then I can meet you at the gate and give them to you. I am usually one of the first ones at the ticket booth on the visitor's side. My son and I are crazy because we just like to sit there in the stands and watch the pre-game warmup.

[LPFAN]

Oh I will...believe me.
I will leave Waco at about noon.
Hey Wide all you have to do is tell me how many tickets you need and I will be there early to get them and save you a seat. Then I can meet you at the gate and give them to you. I am usually one of the first ones at the ticket booth on the visitor's side. My son and I are crazy because we just like to get there early and watch the pre-game warmup.

[wide-e-wide]

Dude I would really appreciate that. I am supposed to be meeting up with Pack0808 and TheDuke for that game. We should all sit together...that would be awesome.

[pack0808]

Dude I would really appreciate that. I am supposed to be meeting up with Pack0808 and TheDuke for that game. We should all sit together...that would be awesome.


I can meet up with you somewhere but my grandparents are coming in from Iowa that week and they are going to that game. Plus i have to help watch all my kids or my wife will have a coronary. LOL

[wide-e-wide]

I can meet up with you somewhere but my grandparents are coming in from Iowa that week and they are going to that game. Plus i have to help watch all my kids or my wife will have a coronary. LOL

We can try to hook up at halftime. cool?

[PACK '97]

That's the one game I'm going to this year....Anyone wanna meet up at Jimmy's after the game? I think anyone and anytime in Lufkin has made it to Jimmy's across the river.

[LPFAN]

That's the one game I'm going to this year....Anyone wanna meet up at Jimmy's after the game? I think anyone and anytime in Lufkin has made it to Jimmy's across the river.
Jimmy's??? :eek: Can't say I have never been there but that was over 10 years ago. Not the best of places and not somewhere I care to go to again. But hey that is just me. I am all for meeting up at the game with people on this board though.

[PACK '97]

it was mainly a joke....i wouldnt head down there either....talk about backwoods....might end up getting shot or stabbed late night out there. I'm game to meet up anywhere, before or after the game. Put some faces on the names of this board

[wide-e-wide]

I've been to Jimmy's quite a few times...can't say I liked it.
But after midnight in Lufkin...that's where the beer is...