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KT2000
10-31-2011, 09:20 AM
Next week, they're for real.

Playoff Projections (Week 10)

1-5A- EP Franklin*, EP Montwood, EP El Dorado*, EP Americas
2-5A- San Angelo Central*, Amarillo, Lub. Monty*, Amarillo Tascosa
3-5A- Abilene, Abilene Cooper, Odessa Permian*, Midland*
4-5A- Arlington Martin*, Arlington Lamar, Arlington, Arlington Bowie*
5-5A- Cedar Hill*, Mansfield, Mansfield Timberview, Duncanville*
6-5A- Euless Trinity*, Colleyville Heritage, Hurst Bell*, Grapevine
7-5A- Southlake Carroll*, Denton Guyer, Keller Central*, Keller Fossil Ridge
8-5A- Allen*, FM Marcus, Hebron, Plano West*

9-5A- Dallas Skyline*, Dallas Jesuit, Richardson Berkner*, Lake Highlands
10-5A- Garland*, McKinney Boyd*, Rowlett, Sachse
11-5A- DeSoto*, Longview, Mesquite Horn, Mesquite*
12-5A- Copperas Cove, A&M Consolidated*, Temple, Belton*
13-5A- Klein Oak*, Spring Dekaney, Klein Collins, Spring*
14-5A- Lufkin, The Woodlands*, Kingwood*, TW College Park
15-5A- Austin Westlake*, Austin Bowie*, Austin Anderson, Del Valle
16-5A- Leander, RR Westwood*, Pflugerville, Round Rock*

17-5A- Cy Fair*, Cy Falls*, Cy Woods, Cy Ranch
18-5A- Alief Taylor, Alief Elsik*, Eisenhower, Aldine Nimitz*
19-5A- Katy, Cinco Ranch*, Memorial, Morton Ranch*
20-5A- Hou. Lamar*, Hou. Bellaire*, Hou. Westside, Hou. Madison
21-5A- La Porte, PA Memorial, North Shore*, Beaumont West Brook*
22-5A- Deer Park*, Pasadena Dobie*, Pasadena Memorial, Pasadena
23-5A- FB Hightower*, FB Bush, FB Elkins*, FB Marshall
24-5A- Clear Springs, Pearland*, Clear Creek, Brazoswood*

25-5A- Cibolo Steele, SA Wagner*, Converse Judson*, New Braunfels
26-5A- SA Reagan, SA Madison*, SA Johnson, SA Churchill*
27-5A- SA Brandeis, SA Warren*, SA Clark, SA Stevens*
28-5A- SA East Central*, CC King, SA Southwest*, CC Carroll
29-5A- Laredo Alexander, Del Rio*, Laredo United*, Eagle Pass
30-5A- McAllen Memorial, Mission Sharyland*, McAllen, Donna*
31-5A- Harlingen*, PSJA North, PSJA Memorial, Edinburg*
32-5A- Weslaco, San Benito*, Los Fresnos*, Brownsville Pace

Division 1

Region 1

EP Franklin vs. Lub. Monterey
Odessa Permian vs. Arlington Bowie
Cedar Hill vs. Hurst Bell
Southlake Carroll vs. Plano West

EP El Dorado vs. San Angelo Central
Midland vs. Arlington Martin
Duncanville vs. Euless Trinity
Keller Central vs. Allen

Region 2

Dallas Skyline vs. McKinney Boyd
DeSoto vs. Belton
Klein Oak vs. Kingwood
Austin Westlake vs. Round Rock

Richardson Berkner vs. Garland
Mesquite vs. A&M Consolidated
Spring vs. The Woodlands
Austin Bowie vs. RR Westwood

Region 3

Cy Fair vs. Aldine Nimitz
Cinco Ranch vs. Houston Bellaire
North Shore vs. Pasadena Dobie
FB Hightower vs. Brazoswood

Cy Falls vs. Alief Elsik
Morton Ranch vs. Houston Lamar
Beaumont West Brook vs. Deer Park
FB Elkins vs. Pearland

Region 4

SA Wagner vs. SA Churchill
SA Warren vs. SA Southwest
Del Rio vs. Donna
Harlingen vs. Los Fresnos

Converse Judson vs. SA Madison
SA Stevens vs. SA East Central
Laredo United vs. Mission Sharyland
Edinburg vs. San Benito

Division 2

Region 1

EP Montwood vs. Amarillo Tascosa
Abilene vs. Arlington
Mansfield vs. Grapevine
Denton Guyer vs. Hebron

EP Americas vs. Amarillo
Abilene Cooper vs. Arlington Lamar
Mansfield Timberview vs. Colleyville Heritage
Keller Fossil Ridge vs. FM Marcus

Region 2

Dallas Jesuit vs. Garland Sachse
Longview vs. Temple
Spring Dekaney vs. TW College Park
Austin Anderson vs. Pflugerville

Lake Highlands vs. Rowlett
Mesquite Horn vs. Copperas Cove
Klein Collins vs. Lufkin
Del Valle vs. Leander

Region 3

Cy Woods vs. Aldine Eisenhower
Katy vs. Houston Madison
La Porte vs. Pasadena
FB Bush vs. Clear Creek

Cy Ranch vs. Alief Taylor
Houston Memorial vs. Houston Westside
Port Arthur Memorial vs. Pasadena Memorial
FB Marshall vs. Clear Springs

Region 4

Cibolo Steele vs. SA Johnson
SA Brandeis vs. CC Carroll
Laredo Alexander vs. McAllen
PSJA North vs. Brownsville Pace

New Braunfels vs. SA Reagan
SA Clark vs. CC King
Eagle Pass vs. McAllen Memorial
PSJA Memorial vs. Weslaco

cyfallsbooster2
10-31-2011, 09:45 AM
I like Falls' bracket.

Dawg82
10-31-2011, 10:11 AM
I like Falls' bracket.
Right up until you hit Deer Park. I hate to admit it, but they're a talented bunch and overlooked because of past history. The Deer have a solid club this year.

cyfallsbooster2
10-31-2011, 10:37 AM
Right up until you hit Deer Park. I hate to admit it, but they're a talented bunch and overlooked because of past history. The Deer have a solid club this year.

Well, after the first week, most every team one faces should be pretty good.

BackNBlack97
10-31-2011, 10:54 AM
I find the 3-5a prediction very interesting... OHS controls their own destiny... What makes yall feel they're gonna choke against a Lee team who has nothing left to play for and knows they will be putting their arch rivals in the playoffs if they win?

KT2000
10-31-2011, 11:06 AM
I find the 3-5a prediction very interesting... OHS controls their own destiny... What makes yall feel they're gonna choke against a Lee team who has nothing left to play for and knows they will be putting their arch rivals in the playoffs if they win?

I see it as a coin flip between the two games. I'm not completely convinced one way or the other.

TrinityTrojan08-10
10-31-2011, 11:09 AM
Based on these projections here's a list of some potentially great games throughout the playoffs.

D1 1st Round

SLC vs. Plano West
Keller Central vs. Allen
Austin Westlake vs. Round Rock
Austin Bowie vs. RR Westwood
BWB vs. Deer Park

D1 2nd Round (All games from here on out are assuming that these teams win obviously. However this does not mean i am predicting these matchups just saying i think they would be good games to watch.)

Cedar Hill vs. SLC/Plano West
Euless Trinity vs. Allen/Keller Central
Skyline vs. Desoto
Klein Oak vs. Westlake/Round Rock
The Woodlands vs. Austin Bowie/RR Westwood
BWB/Deer Park vs. Pearland

D1 3rd Round

Arlington Bowie vs. Cedar Hill/SLC/Plano West
Arlington Martin vs. ET/Allen/Keller Central
Cy Fair vs. North Shore
Cy Falls vs. Pearland/BWB/Deer Park
Harlingen vs. SA Wagner

D1 4th Round

Cedar Hill/SLC/Plano West/Arl. Bowie vs. ET/Allen/Keller Central/Arl. Martin (any matchup out of these 8 will be a great game!!)
Cy Fair vs. Cy Falls/BWB/Pearland/Deer Park
SA Wagner/Harlingen vs. Converse Judson

D1 5th Round

Any of the 8 from the R1 championship vs. Desoto/Skyline
Cy Fair/Cy Falls/BWB/Pearland/Deer Park vs. Harlingen/SA Wagner/Judson

D1 Championship

Any combination of the teams from 5th Round games would make for a great game. No matter who is in the final though it's usually a good game to watch.

D2 1st Round

Abilene vs. Arlington
Denton Guyer vs. Hebron
Spring Dekaney vs. TW College Park
Mesquite Horn vs. Copperas Cove (This game and the Guyer game look like the best matchups in the 1st round IMO)
Klein Collins vs. Lufkin

D2 2nd Round

Colleyville Heritage vs. FM Marcus
Klein Collins/Lufkin vs. Leander
Cy Woods vs. Katy
Cibolo Steele vs. SA Brandeis (maybe, could be a blowout)

D2 3rd Round

Abilene/Arlington vs. Denton Guyer/Hebron
Arlington Lamar vs. Colleyville Heritage/FM Marcus
Longview vs. TW College Park/Spring Dekaney
Mesquite Horn/Copperas Cove vs. Klein Collins/Lufkin/Leander
Katy vs. LaPorte

D2 4th Round

Abilene/Arlington/Denton Guyer/Hebron vs. Arl. Lamar/FM Marcus/Colleyville
Longview/TW College Park/Spring Dekaney vs. Mesquite Horn/Copperas Cove/Klein Collins/Lufkin/Leander
Katy vs. PA Memorial

D2 5th Round

The massive list that would combine the teams from the R1 4th Round game and the R2 4th Round game. The R1 vs R2 in D2 semi final will be a great game to watch no matter what the teams are.

Then there's Katy/PA Memorial vs. Cibolo Steele for the R3 vs. R4 semi final, and I'm sure there's plenty of people who can't wait for this game.

D2 Championship

Although there isn't as many legit contenders in R3 and R4 as there is in R1 and R2 i think the top team that does make it from the R3/R4 side will be the favorite to win the championship. While some say close games make your team better, too many close games in the playoffs can wear a team out. Cibolo/PA Memorial/Katy are all well coached and they won't be unprepared just because they had an easy schedule through the playoffs. I predict a D2 Championship coming to winner of the R3/R4 semi final.

TrinityTrojan08-10
10-31-2011, 11:13 AM
I find the 3-5a prediction very interesting... OHS controls their own destiny... What makes yall feel they're gonna choke against a Lee team who has nothing left to play for and knows they will be putting their arch rivals in the playoffs if they win?

I'm assuming Lee is out of the picture here but I'm not 100% sure that's the situation. Either way i would believe (and hope) that the Coach at Lee would be more worried about getting a W and ending their season on a high note rather than throwing a game just to keep their arch rivals out of the playoffs. If i were coach i would want to win and send that team to the playoffs just so i could go watch them lose the first round, that would be more satisfying than keeping them out. I'm not saying Midland will lose the first round just stating how i would approach the situation as a coach. Take care of your team before you worry about another coach's.

BackNBlack97
10-31-2011, 11:32 AM
I'm assuming Lee is out of the picture here but I'm not 100% sure that's the situation. Either way i would believe (and hope) that the Coach at Lee would be more worried about getting a W and ending their season on a high note rather than throwing a game just to keep their arch rivals out of the playoffs. If i were coach i would want to win and send that team to the playoffs just so i could go watch them lose the first round, that would be more satisfying than keeping them out. I'm not saying Midland will lose the first round just stating how i would approach the situation as a coach. Take care of your team before you worry about another coach's.

I'm not necessarily saying he would throw the game but I'm not saying there's the extra added intensity that would be there if it were for a playoff spot... Their season is over, there is no way for them to make the playoffs, and even if Lee wins, they must win by 4 or more points for OHS to miss the playoffs, or Midland High must upset Abilene Cooper in addition to OHS losing... The playoff scenario is OHS wins and in, OHS loses and MHS (1-3 in district) beats Cooper (3-1 in district) and MHS is in, OHS loses by 3 or less and MHS loses and OHS is in. OHS loses by 4 and it's a tie on points between OHS and MHS so I'm not sure what happens then. OHS loses by 5+ and MHS is in. Lee is out by virtue of being -10 with a +12 limit per game and MHS being +3 right now and no possibility of point change this week... If both teams end up at +3 I'm not sure who goes in, but I do know that OHS beat MHS head to head...

TrinityTrojan08-10
10-31-2011, 12:22 PM
I'm not necessarily saying he would throw the game but I'm not saying there's the extra added intensity that would be there if it were for a playoff spot... Their season is over, there is no way for them to make the playoffs, and even if Lee wins, they must win by 4 or more points for OHS to miss the playoffs, or Midland High must upset Abilene Cooper in addition to OHS losing... The playoff scenario is OHS wins and in, OHS loses and MHS (1-3 in district) beats Cooper (3-1 in district) and MHS is in, OHS loses by 3 or less and MHS loses and OHS is in. OHS loses by 4 and it's a tie on points between OHS and MHS so I'm not sure what happens then. OHS loses by 5+ and MHS is in. Lee is out by virtue of being -10 with a +12 limit per game and MHS being +3 right now and no possibility of point change this week... If both teams end up at +3 I'm not sure who goes in, but I do know that OHS beat MHS head to head...

As i stated before, i think coaches need to coach their team for the game that is coming up and not worry about what the other teams have going on. If Lee does have a chance, however slim it is, of making the playoffs then i think that Lee's coach should look at this game as a must win not a hey if we do win we knock our rivals out of the playoffs. I guess what I'm saying is even though Lee's outcome in their game effects the playoff implications of other teams, they need to take care of their own first and let the rest be sorted out by the officials who handle the tiebreakers and all the other formulas that go into deciding who made the playoffs.

Dawg82
10-31-2011, 12:40 PM
Cibolo/PA Memorial/Katy are all well coached and they won't be unprepared just because they had an easy schedule through the playoffs. I predict a D2 Championship coming to winner of the R3/R4 semi final.
Katy yes. Cibolo, not sure. PAM...you've got to be kidding (as far as coaching--no disrespect intended). You think PAM had an easy road? Come play in 21-5A. The only team that's been successful against 21-5A is Katy. That doesn't say much for 19-5A, but it says a lot about Katy.....:cool:

BackNBlack97
10-31-2011, 12:41 PM
As i stated before, i think coaches need to coach their team for the game that is coming up and not worry about what the other teams have going on. If Lee does have a chance, however slim it is, of making the playoffs then i think that Lee's coach should look at this game as a must win not a hey if we do win we knock our rivals out of the playoffs. I guess what I'm saying is even though Lee's outcome in their game effects the playoff implications of other teams, they need to take care of their own first and let the rest be sorted out by the officials who handle the tiebreakers and all the other formulas that go into deciding who made the playoffs.

I don't think there's a coach out there who would coach their kids down to lose a game... I am just saying that the letdown for the kids knowing they have been eliminated from the playoffs may impact the level of play... I wasn't implying they would throw the game...

Tom
10-31-2011, 01:24 PM
Hmmm. Thought I saw one of the 8-5A posters say that in a three-way tie between Hebron, Plano West, and Plano East, West would be out on point differential. Plano East plays Lewisville this week, so they'll probably win, and obviously you're picking Marcus to beat Hebron.

Might want to double check the tiebreakers there.

uhsfilmcrew
10-31-2011, 01:26 PM
Im predicting an LBJ win and Eagle Pass loss for the Wolfpack to punch their first ever ticket to the playoffs (4th spot). Del Rio and United may switch depending on a United win against Alexander. If Alexander wins their game against United, then they are in the correct spots.

Hooked
10-31-2011, 02:26 PM
According to District 4-5A tiebreaker rules, the current projected order of finish (assuming, as you have, that Arlington beats Bowie and Lamar beats N. Crowley this Friday) should be:

Arlington
Arlington Martin*
Arlington Lamar
Arlington Bowie*

Arlington High and Lamar should be switched in the seedings and brackets as you currently show.

SWMHebron
10-31-2011, 02:45 PM
Hmmm. Thought I saw one of the 8-5A posters say that in a three-way tie between Hebron, Plano West, and Plano East, West would be out on point differential. Plano East plays Lewisville this week, so they'll probably win, and obviously you're picking Marcus to beat Hebron.

Might want to double check the tiebreakers there.

Point differential is in head-to-head, not total. So if Hebron, West and East all end up 4-3, the only points that count are their games against each other.

Tom
10-31-2011, 03:29 PM
Point differential is in head-to-head, not total. So if Hebron, West and East all end up 4-3, the only points that count are their games against each other.

Yes, I understand that.

Hebron: 20-point win over West, 3-point loss to East
East: 3-point win over Hebron, 8-point loss to West
West: 8-point win over East, 20-point loss to Hebron

Obviously the West-Hebron spread is capped, but unless the cap is 13 or less, then the order is Hebron, East, West.

I also understand that 8-5A doesn't go back to head-to-head once it goes to point differential, so East would get in ahead of West even though West beat them head-to-head. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this.

SWMHebron
10-31-2011, 03:39 PM
Yes, I understand that.

Hebron: 20-point win over West, 3-point loss to East
East: 3-point win over Hebron, 8-point loss to West
West: 8-point win over East, 20-point loss to Hebron

Obviously the West-Hebron spread is capped, but unless the cap is 13 or less, then the order is Hebron, East, West.

I also understand that 8-5A doesn't go back to head-to-head once it goes to point differential, so East would get in ahead of West even though West beat them head-to-head. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this.

You are correct. I think it is capped at 14 but I've read so many scenarios about so many districts I could easily be wrong about that.:p

Tom
10-31-2011, 05:09 PM
You are correct. I think it is capped at 14 but I've read so many scenarios about so many districts I could easily be wrong about that.:p

Yeah. So for West to make the playoffs, either Hebron has to beat Marcus or Lewisville has to beat East. The former is certainly possible but not predicted here (otherwise Hebron would be the top seed in D2.) The latter is not likely.

Mr. Buddy Garrity
10-31-2011, 08:53 PM
Katy yes. Cibolo, not sure. PAM...you've got to be kidding (as far as coaching--no disrespect intended). You think PAM had an easy road? Come play in 21-5A. The only team that's been successful against 21-5A is Katy. That doesn't say much for 19-5A, but it says a lot about Katy.....:cool:

I agree to an extent. The coaching reared it's ugly head last week and in the WB game IMO. The rest of the games they were on point to me.

YOUGOTTAPLAYHURT
11-01-2011, 10:12 AM
13 5A is not settled yet. The most likely senerio would be for Spring and Westfield to lose to klein Collins and Dekaney and for Klein Forest to beat Tomball. This would put Westfield into the playoffs and they would play Lufkin in D2 and Klein Collins would then play The Woodlands in D1.

baylordad
11-01-2011, 04:22 PM
Division 1
Region 1

EP Franklin vs. Lub. Monterey
Odessa Permian vs. Arlington Bowie
Cedar Hill vs. Hurst Bell
Southlake Carroll vs. Plano West
EP El Dorado vs. San Angelo Central
Midland vs. Arlington Martin
Duncanville vs. Euless Trinity
Keller Central vs. Allen

Region 2
Dallas Skyline vs. McKinney Boyd
DeSoto vs. Belton
Klein Oak vs. Kingwood
Austin Westlake vs. Round Rock
Richardson Berkner vs. Garland
Mesquite vs. A&M Consolidated
Spring vs. The Woodlands
Austin Bowie vs. RR Westwood

Region 3
Cy Fair vs. Aldine Nimitz
Cinco Ranch vs. Houston Bellaire
North Shore vs. Pasadena Dobie
FB Hightower vs. Brazoswood
Cy Falls vs. Alief Elsik
Morton Ranch vs. Houston Lamar
Beaumont West Brook vs. Deer Park
FB Elkins vs. Pearland

Region 4
SA Wagner vs. SA Churchill
SA Warren vs. SA Southwest
Del Rio vs. Donna
Harlingen vs. Los Fresnos
Converse Judson vs. SA Madison
SA Stevens vs. SA East Central
Laredo United vs. Mission Sharyland
Edinburg vs. San Benito

Division 2
Region 1
EP Montwood vs. Amarillo Tascosa
Abilene vs. Arlington
Mansfield vs. Grapevine
Denton Guyer vs. Hebron
EP Americas vs. Amarillo
Abilene Cooper vs. Arlington Lamar
Mansfield Timberview vs. Colleyville Heritage
Keller Fossil Ridge vs. FM Marcus

Region 2
Dallas Jesuit vs. Garland Sachse
Longview vs. Temple
Spring Dekaney vs. TW College Park
Austin Anderson vs. Pflugerville
Lake Highlands vs. Rowlett
Mesquite Horn vs. Copperas Cove
Klein Collins vs. Lufkin
Del Valle vs. Leander

Region 3
Cy Woods vs. Aldine Eisenhower
Katy vs. Houston Madison
La Porte vs. Pasadena
FB Bush vs. Clear Creek
Cy Ranch vs. Alief Taylor
Houston Memorial vs. Houston Westside
Port Arthur Memorial vs. Pasadena Memorial
FB Marshall vs. Clear Springs

Region 4
Cibolo Steele vs. SA Johnson
SA Brandeis vs. CC Carroll
Laredo Alexander vs. McAllen
PSJA North vs. Brownsville Pace
New Braunfels vs. SA Reagan
SA Clark vs. CC King
Eagle Pass vs. McAllen M[B]
PSJA Memorial vs. [B]Weslaco

pad3000
11-01-2011, 08:30 PM
According to District 4-5A tiebreaker rules, the current projected order of finish (assuming, as you have, that Arlington beats Bowie and Lamar beats N. Crowley this Friday) should be:

Arlington
Arlington Martin*
Arlington Lamar
Arlington Bowie*

Arlington High and Lamar should be switched in the seedings and brackets as you currently show.


Arlington Lamar will be the #1 seed in D2 and Arlington will be the #2 seed in D2 going upon your assumptions. The order of District finish is under the District's authority and the seeding of playoffs is under the UIL's authority. Lamar beat Arlington in head to head therefore Lamar is the #1 seed.

The District's tie-breaker rules do not affect playoff seeding.

bob1122
11-01-2011, 09:29 PM
Any predictions for this part of the bracket all the way through?

Lake Highlands vs. Rowlett
Mesquite Horn vs. Copperas Cove
Klein Collins vs. Lufkin
Del Valle vs. Leander

mike03car
11-01-2011, 11:28 PM
I find the 3-5a prediction very interesting... OHS controls their own destiny... What makes yall feel they're gonna choke against a Lee team who has nothing left to play for and knows they will be putting their arch rivals in the playoffs if they win?

Bronchos are better than the Rebs and Dawgs, I fully expect them to beat Lee and secure their spot.

edit: yes, EVEN in Midland :P

mike03car
11-01-2011, 11:43 PM
According to District 4-5A tiebreaker rules, the current projected order of finish (assuming, as you have, that Arlington beats Bowie and Lamar beats N. Crowley this Friday) should be:

Arlington
Arlington Martin*
Arlington Lamar
Arlington Bowie*

Arlington High and Lamar should be switched in the seedings and brackets as you currently show.

Arlington beat Martin, Lamar beat Arlington, & Martin beat Lamar. Let's say they all finish 6-1 in the district. There's some rule that seeds Arlington higher than Lamar? Very strange. If it's something in the district book, does that mean the UIL seeds accordingly?

edit: nm, answered later -

Arlington Lamar will be the #1 seed in D2 and Arlington will be the #2 seed in D2 going upon your assumptions. The order of District finish is under the District's authority and the seeding of playoffs is under the UIL's authority. Lamar beat Arlington in head to head therefore Lamar is the #1 seed.

The District's tie-breaker rules do not affect playoff seeding.

mike03car
11-01-2011, 11:50 PM
Is there still a scenario where two schools in 7-5A bigger than SLC make the playoffs? Wouldn't be the same without our dragonkin!

Pearland1
11-02-2011, 12:29 AM
Right up until you hit Deer Park. I hate to admit it, but they're a talented bunch and overlooked because of past history. The Deer have a solid club this year.


That would mean that Deer Park would have beating Pearland?

LeanderLions3033
11-02-2011, 12:35 AM
If everything works out like it should (obviously you never know) Leander v Lufkin should be a nice 2nd round matchup. I dont know how these two teams have dodged each other so many times over the last 10 years. Everytime it looks like it could happen one team gets upset. Id love to see it happen though. I wanna see how we match up with those east texas boys ;)

Hooked
11-02-2011, 01:33 PM
Arlington Lamar will be the #1 seed in D2 and Arlington will be the #2 seed in D2 going upon your assumptions. The order of District finish is under the District's authority and the seeding of playoffs is under the UIL's authority. Lamar beat Arlington in head to head therefore Lamar is the #1 seed.

The District's tie-breaker rules do not affect playoff seeding.

This is simply incorrect. 4-5A's tiebreaker rules determine the district champion, just as head-to-head determines the champion even though both teams might finish with identical season records.

Arlington will be the official district champion by virtue of the district's tiebreaker system in the event of a 3-way tie (though all 3 teams will rightly consider themselves to be co-champs as a practical matter). As such, they will be the #1 seed in Division II, notwithstanding their loss to Lamar.

I know for a fact both head coaches for Arlington and Lamar understand this to be the scenario.

Edited to add:

The official UIL position is that their tie-breaker rules apply ONLY if the individual district's Executive Committee has not otherwise passed their own tie-breaker procedures. District 4-5A passed their own, thereby superseding the UIL procedures.

http://www.uiltexas.org/files/constitution/uil-ccr-section-1200-1203.pdf

See Sec. 1203(h):


(h) TIES. The district executive committee shall determine in writing prior to the season the method to determine the district representatives in the event two or more schools are tied in win/loss percentages. If the district executive committee has not provided a procedure prior to the season, the following tie breaker procedures shall apply: [[U]emphasis added]

Tom
11-02-2011, 01:45 PM
Is there still a scenario where two schools in 7-5A bigger than SLC make the playoffs? Wouldn't be the same without our dragonkin!

Yes. If Fossil Ridge loses to Keller and Coppell beats Keller Central, Coppell and Central are both in the playoffs and SLC goes Division 2.

There's also a more complicated scenario where Coppell and Fossil Ridge both lose, but Northwest would have to also lose to 1-8 Saginaw.

And again, Fossil Ridge is in (and SLC goes Division 1) if they beat Keller. Keller's shown some fight but they've only beaten Saginaw since district play started.