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[SeguinMatadors]

College football is awesome!

[jtk1519]

Nothing better IMHO.

[SeguinMatadors]

Nothing better IMHO.

I like HS football and then College football.

[TexasRed6x]

I like HS football and then College football.
Yeah me too.

[jtk1519]

College football has slowly been creeping up on high school football over the years and I think it has officially passed it as far as I'm concerned. Not that I don't like high school football anymore, but I have started taking a much bigger interest in college ball as of late. There are quite a few teams (Texas... duh, Notre Dame, Florida, Ohio State, Tech, South Carolina, Virginia, etc.) that I love to follow and watch. I don't know if this is a great time in college football or just a great time for me, but I sure love it either way.

[Dawg Fan]

I will watch just about any college game thats on TV. Can't say that about the pro's

[Daniel Agnew]

I'll watch any kind of football which is why I'm in depression mode right now.

[CKE]

I'll watch any kind of football which is why I'm in depression mode right now.

Arena?

[lonny23]

Arena?
I like Arena League.

[lonny23]

College football has slowly been creeping up on high school football over the years and I think it has officially passed it as far as I'm concerned. Not that I don't like high school football anymore, but I have started taking a much bigger interest in college ball as of late. There are quite a few teams (Texas... duh, Notre Dame, Florida, Ohio State, Tech, South Carolina, Virginia, etc.) that I love to follow and watch. I don't know if this is a great time in college football or just a great time for me, but I sure love it either way.
I will always like high school the most because it's the purest form. Those guys play for the love of the game. All college is these days is a way for the rich to buy their way into more success on the athletic field. I like the college atmosphere, but also know it's just a case of the rich boosters buying a better team than the next guy. At least the pros are honest about what they pay players, who don't seem to give their best effort, which the college guys do.

Texas has more rich boosters than the other colleges and they buy a better team. That's just the way it is. I'm not trying to bash Texas because I think all D1-A colleges buy their team.

[lonny23]

College football is awesome!
What a great thread!:D

[jtk1519]

Arena?

Do you want to make him suicidal?

[lonny23]

Do you want to make him suicidal?
I think it's a great sport. You score a bunch and get a smaller area to play in.

[jtk1519]

I will always like high school the most because it's the purest form. Those guys play for the love of the game. All college is these days is a way for the rich to buy their way into more success on the athletic field. I like the college atmosphere, but also know it's just a case of the rich boosters buying a better team than the next guy. At least the pros are honest about what they pay players, who don't seem to give their best effort, which the college guys do.

Texas has more rich boosters than the other colleges and they buy a better team. That's just the way it is. I'm not trying to bash Texas because I think all D1-A colleges buy their team.

If that line of thinking were true, Oklahoma State would win multiple national championships every year. Boone Pickens donates more money to that program than a lot of programs will see in 50 years. There is arguably no more powerfull booster in all the land. You don't think he could provide a few "perks" here and there if he wanted to deliver a NC to Stillwater?

Reality is that that line of thinking if more fantasy than anything. Too many people watching movie like Blue Chips coupled with the occasional program getting busted for relatively minor infractions leads to an imaginative (or disgruntled) few dreaming up mass conspiracies involving powerful boosters and talented players. You certainly can't deny that those things have happened and probably still do, but on a dramatically smaller scale than what they used to. Gone are the days of the old SWC. Gone are the days of Bear Bryant telling coaches to drop buckets full of money on recruit's doorsteps. Gone are the days of Jackie Sherrill, the aggy booster and FedEx. Since the 70s-80s or so when aggy, SMU, BlowU, etc. were busted hard by the NCAA, big time programs don't take a piss without the NCAA wanting to see the color. I mean seriously... an Ohio State booster loans a suit to a football player and the NCAA sends in a freakin’ SWAT team and ESPiN is doing around the clock coverage of the "Crisis in Columbus". The wild stories that go around now days about boosters buying players, are just that... stories.

That being said, boosters and those of power have found ways to give their teams an advantage, but they do so in a perfectly legal and productive way. People like Boone Pickens, Joe Jamail, Red McCombs donate millions upon millions of dollars to their universities so that the universities can use that money to build facilities and pay coaches more than the next guy to hopefully help build better teams. The University of Texas is the perfect example of this. When it comes to athletic facilities, there is no program in the nation that compares to Texas. When it comes to quality of coaches and level of coach pay, there is no program in the nation that compares to Texas. Because of that, no program in the nation can rival the success of University of Texas athletics. Recruits want to play in the best stadiums and practice in the nicest weight room after lounging in the plushest locker rooms while learning under the best coaches. Texas is able to do this because boosters now days use the rules instead of breaking them to give their respective programs a distinct advantage. It’s not illegal by any stretch of the imagination, but it is a source of frustration for Texas’ rivals while at the same time being the source of their envy. Bottom line is that most programs in the country (especially the state) hate Texas athletics because they are the biggest, richest and in turn, the best, but every single program in the country (especially the state) strives with all of their being to be just like Texas.

That is the largest reason why you see the incredible facility boom that has hit college athletics. Look at all the team building new stadiums or renovating what they have... Stanford, Cal, Texas, Louisville, LSU, Penn State, USC, Michigan, Texas Tech and on and on and on... and that's just for football. For the boosters, it's no longer about who can provide the most "perks" to help their teams win. It's now about who can get their name on the most impressive indoor practice facility... Who can get their statue in front of the new 10,000 seat endzone facility. Boosters have found that those are much more effective, and frankly, much more ego inflating ways of helping their schools win. After all, why spend a few hundred dollars to pay players under the table anonymously when you can drop a few million to have your name adorn the stadium tunnel for decades to come? The economics of the game prove this. That is the reality of modern day collegiate athletics.

[CKE]

Do you want to make him suicidal?

lol no but he said any kind of football

[jtk1519]

lol no but he said any kind of football

I just can't get into arena football. I've tried to watch it before and just can't do it.

[CKE]

to tell you the truth the only thing i like about is is there is no out of bounds and the how the receivers go in motion

[Daniel Agnew]

Arena?

Yep that too, but I'll intern for our Arena team in our hometown(start making my connections & improving the resumé). That starts in 2 weeks.

[lonny23]

If that line of thinking were true, Oklahoma State would win multiple national championships every year. Boone Pickens donates more money to that program than a lot of programs will see in 50 years. There is arguably no more powerfull booster in all the land. You don't think he could provide a few "perks" here and there if he wanted to deliver a NC to Stillwater?

Reality is that that line of thinking if more fantasy than anything. Too many people watching movie like Blue Chips coupled with the occasional program getting busted for relatively minor infractions leads to an imaginative (or disgruntled) few dreaming up mass conspiracies involving powerful boosters and talented players. You certainly can't deny that those things have happened and probably still do, but on a dramatically smaller scale than what they used to. Gone are the days of the old SWC. Gone are the days of Bear Bryant telling coaches to drop buckets full of money on recruit's doorsteps. Gone are the days of Jackie Sherrill, the aggy booster and FedEx. Since the 70s-80s or so when aggy, SMU, BlowU, etc. were busted hard by the NCAA, big time programs don't take a piss without the NCAA wanting to see the color. I mean seriously... an Ohio State booster loans a suit to a football player and the NCAA sends in a freakin’ SWAT team and ESPiN is doing around the clock coverage of the "Crisis in Columbus". The wild stories that go around now days about boosters buying players, are just that... stories.

That being said, boosters and those of power have found ways to give their teams an advantage, but they do so in a perfectly legal and productive way. People like Boone Pickens, Joe Jamail, Red McCombs donate millions upon millions of dollars to their universities so that the universities can use that money to build facilities and pay coaches more than the next guy to hopefully help build better teams. The University of Texas is the perfect example of this. When it comes to athletic facilities, there is no program in the nation that compares to Texas. When it comes to quality of coaches and level of coach pay, there is no program in the nation that compares to Texas. Because of that, no program in the nation can rival the success of University of Texas athletics. Recruits want to play in the best stadiums and practice in the nicest weight room after lounging in the plushest locker rooms while learning under the best coaches. Texas is able to do this because boosters now days use the rules instead of breaking them to give their respective programs a distinct advantage. It’s not illegal by any stretch of the imagination, but it is a source of frustration for Texas’ rivals while at the same time being the source of their envy. Bottom line is that most programs in the country (especially the state) hate Texas athletics because they are the biggest, richest and in turn, the best, but every single program in the country (especially the state) strives with all of their being to be just like Texas.

That is the largest reason why you see the incredible facility boom that has hit college athletics. Look at all the team building new stadiums or renovating what they have... Stanford, Cal, Texas, Louisville, LSU, Penn State, USC, Michigan, Texas Tech and on and on and on... and that's just for football. For the boosters, it's no longer about who can provide the most "perks" to help their teams win. It's now about who can get their name on the most impressive indoor practice facility... Who can get their statue in front of the new 10,000 seat endzone facility. Boosters have found that those are much more effective, and frankly, much more ego inflating ways of helping their schools win. After all, why spend a few hundred dollars to pay players under the table anonymously when you can drop a few million to have your name adorn the stadium tunnel for decades to come? The economics of the game prove this. That is the reality of modern day collegiate athletics.That's a great post. I still think a lot of money gets hidden, but I'm with you on how boosters get their name out there and about the facilities. Paying coaches is a big-time money game, too. Joe Jamail, Red McCombs, and T. Boone Pickens all made the top 5 list of most powerful boosters. Joe Jamail has his name on the stadium at UT.