2,000 Refugees fail TAKS

[Reaganrattler07]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/03/24/katrina.testscores.ap/index.html

One of two things:
1) New Orleans is that bad in education
2) Texas is just that good in education

Now, an intangible here could be the fact of displacement...

[lonny23]

I'm going to go with they failed because New Orleans is that bad. You know they're dumb in that city because they choose to live in a sewer.

I hate Lousyanna for 2 reasons:

1. They have to be different in everything.
2. They think their state is great and it's horrible.

I dislike #2 a lot more than #1. For the record, I kinda like Oklahoma, and have mixed feelings (good and bad) about Arkansas and New Mexico.

[Miss Kitty]

I guess our Louisiana vacation is out of the question. :(

[lonny23]

I guess our Louisiana vacation is out of the question. :(
No way. Even though I hate the place, I still go there to visit relatives. I do have some fun there and I want to go to the Plantations. I need to take you to New Orleans to see my old houses, like the one where my dad couldn't help me when a hot plate burned me because he had to keep the roaches off of the eggs. The other house is where I knocked that girl's teeth out and had a Mexican restaurant where I used to always go buy tacos. I had a lot of fun in that town even though I think it's a terrible place to live. I used to ride with my dad when he worked for Charles Chips. He'd have to make deliveries all over town, including Bourbon Street and New Orleans Naval Air Station. Schwegmann's may still be the largest grocery stores there are. I've always liked the Superdome and I love ben-yays (I think you spell it beneigts) in the French Quarter.

[Miss Kitty]

No way. Even though I hate the place, I still go there to visit relatives. I do have some fun there and I want to go to the Plantations. I need to take you to New Orleans to see my old houses, like the one where my dad couldn't help me when a hot plate burned me because he had to keep the roaches off of the eggs. The other house is where I knocked that girl's teeth out and had a Mexican restaurant where I used to always go buy tacos. I had a lot of fun in that town even though I think it's a terrible place to live. I used to ride with my dad when he worked for Charles Chips. He'd have to make deliveries all over town, including Bourbon Street and New Orleans Naval Air Station. Schwegmann's may still be the largest grocery stores there are. I've always liked the Superdome and I love ben-yays (I think you spell it beneigts) in the French Quarter.


Sounds fun.:D

[TexasRed6x]

yeah it is fun down there because of the casinos.:D

[Miss Kitty]

yeah it is fun down there because of the casinos.:D


And you know that, why? :confused:

[TexasRed6x]

And you know that, why? :confused:
Because my grandma goes there all the time to play at the casinos.

[Miss Kitty]

Because my grandma goes there all the time to play at the casinos.

Ohhhhhhhhh ;)

[lonny23]

And you know that, why? :confused:
Yeah, gambling is dangerous and causes problems for many people. There are a lot of teens who are hooked on Texas Hold 'em right now. You need to save that money so women can take it later on!:p

[Miss Kitty]

Yeah, gambling is dangerous and causes problems for many people. There are a lot of teens who are hooked on Texas Hold 'em right now. You need to save that money so women can take it later on!:p

See why I love this man. :p :D

[TexasRed6x]

See why I love this man. :p :D
Yeah because of the money. :D

[Miss Kitty]

Yeah because of the money. :D

Wrong. :D

[TexasRed6x]

Wrong. :D
Then why?

[lonny23]

See why I love this man. :p :D
I figured I'd get a reaction!:D

[Miss Kitty]

Then why?

Cause he has great taste. :p

[GoOwls]

Yeah because of the money. :D

No, silly, women love men in uniforms............:D

[yankee]

Then why?
lets not turn this into a love board, please.

[Miss Kitty]

No, silly, women love men in uniforms............:D

We love me out of uniforms too.

[Miss Kitty]

lets not turn this into a love board, please.


Awwwww don't feel left out. I like you too. ;)

[yankee]

Awwwww don't feel left out. I like you too. ;)
hahahahahaha.

[lonny23]

We love men out of uniforms too.
Nice!:D

[Miss Kitty]

Nice!:D

Thought you might like that.:p

[slorch]

I moved to Lake Charles for work in July 2003. By July 2004 I was back in Texas!

Besides gaining an appreciation for crawfish and gumbo, but all red meat was suspect to which road the cook came to work on! all I got in this one year of my life is a culture shock I never expected!

Schools ARE that bad! My son was in 4th grade and tested for Gifted and talented( they actually made him retest to La Standards even though he was in the program in Tx before we left. What a laugher! The most challenging material was still curriculum from 3rd grade in Amarillo!

The roads make you seasick!

State income tax sucks!

State and local politicians were so inept and /or corrupt, they would make Dallas City Council blush with embarassment!

Drinking and driving... the convenience stores( mainly the Mom & Pops) had ready made margaritas and Crown &Coke Icees to go, if you wanted.
I work in the grocery industry and have never seen so many beer troughs in those convenience stores as I did in that area! The plants changed shifts at 3PM and by 4PM, I bet 1 out of 4 drivers had some alcohol in their system- maybe higher than 1 out of 4!

The so called football programs like Barbe, which has produced some good athletes, had a joke of a stadium. There are 3A schools in Texas with better facilities.

Racism was bad! Rebel flags all over. Little subtle hints, that the stores were mainly for whites. It was ludicrous!

I do regret ever putting my family in a place with such an overwhelming "LOSER" attitude. I will say, that after Rita hit, I went there to help our company's employees in Lake Charles, and they had a great attitude, but they are the ones who already had jobs and were already doing the right things for their families!
We have taken a hit in Texas for reaching out to these folks" in need" What some of them really need is a gentle push in the right direction to self sufficiency and independence, but out society is not real strong in the "tough Love" department.

just my $.02

[lonny23]

I moved to Lake Charles for work in July 2003. By July 2004 I was back in Texas!

Besides gaining an appreciation for crawfish and gumbo, but all red meat was suspect to which road the cook came to work on! all I got in this one year of my life is a culture shock I never expected!

Schools ARE that bad! My son was in 4th grade and tested for Gifted and talented( they actually made him retest to La Standards even though he was in the program in Tx before we left. What a laugher! The most challenging material was still curriculum from 3rd grade in Amarillo!

The roads make you seasick!

State income tax sucks!

State and local politicians were so inept and /or corrupt, they would make Dallas City Council blush with embarassment!

Drinking and driving... the convenience stores( mainly the Mom & Pops) had ready made margaritas and Crown &Coke Icees to go, if you wanted.
I work in the grocery industry and have never seen so many beer troughs in those convenience stores as I did in that area! The plants changed shifts at 3PM and by 4PM, I bet 1 out of 4 drivers had some alcohol in their system- maybe higher than 1 out of 4!

The so called football programs like Barbe, which has produced some good athletes, had a joke of a stadium. There are 3A schools in Texas with better facilities.

Racism was bad! Rebel flags all over. Little subtle hints, that the stores were mainly for whites. It was ludicrous!

I do regret ever putting my family in a place with such an overwhelming "LOSER" attitude. I will say, that after Rita hit, I went there to help our company's employees in Lake Charles, and they had a great attitude, but they are the ones who already had jobs and were already doing the right things for their families!
We have taken a hit in Texas for reaching out to these folks" in need" What some of them really need is a gentle push in the right direction to self sufficiency and independence, but out society is not real strong in the "tough Love" department.

just my $.02
Slorch, you're right on in your analysis. What I hate is that far East Texas is just like Lousyanna in many ways in the racism department and loser people. I won't lie about Katrina. When I heard it was going to hit Florida, I said I hope it takes out New Orleans.

[Miss Kitty]

Slorch, you're right on in your analysis. What I hate is that far East Texas is just like Lousyanna in many ways in the racism department and loser people. I won't lie about Katrina. When I heard it was going to hit Florida, I said I hope it takes out New Orleans.

But I bet you didn't expect that it would send all of those great folks here did you. :(

[lonny23]

But I bet you didn't expect that it would send all of those great folks here did you. :(
Where else are they going to go?

Mississippi? Everybody knows Lousyanna is better.

Arkansas? Lousyanna looks down on them, too, but I like them more.

Texas? They try to act like they're better than Texas, but they know better. Hey, the free stuff is here.

[lonny23]

But I bet you didn't expect that it would send all of those great folks here did you. :(
Like that moocher you had?:mad:

[Miss Kitty]

Like that moocher you had?:mad:

Yep. And all of the people stealing, raping, killing, etc. :mad:

[lonny23]

Yep. And all of the people stealing, raping, killing, etc. :mad:
That's all they know. When I lived in New Orleans East, the kids used to pick my locks until I started using a key lock. I had 4 combination locks stolen in a year.

[Miss Kitty]

That's all they know. When I lived in New Orleans East, the kids used to pick my locks until I started using a key lock. I had 4 combination locks stolen in a year.


Well that still does not make me want them here. Whether it is all they know or not. They just need to be prayed for.

[lonny23]

Well that still does not make me want them here. Whether it is all they know or not. They just need to be prayed for.
They need prayer and it's not right. There is a demonic oppression that has been over New Orleans for many years. That's what makes people act like they do.

[yankee]

I'm going to go with they failed because New Orleans is that bad. You know they're dumb in that city because they choose to live in a sewer.

I hate Lousyanna for 2 reasons:

1. They have to be different in everything.
2. They think their state is great and it's horrible.

I dislike #2 a lot more than #1. For the record, I kinda like Oklahoma, and have mixed feelings (good and bad) about Arkansas and New Mexico.
i have to agree with you. every year my family and i go down to florida a couple of times a year. that means we have to pass through louisiana. now i know that the nicer areas are not going to be on an interstate, but louisiana is simply a craphole. there are much nicer areas in different states.

[yankee]

I'm going to go with they failed because New Orleans is that bad. You know they're dumb in that city because they choose to live in a sewer.

I hate Lousyanna for 2 reasons:

1. They have to be different in everything.
2. They think their state is great and it's horrible.

I dislike #2 a lot more than #1. For the record, I kinda like Oklahoma, and have mixed feelings (good and bad) about Arkansas and New Mexico.
i also want to say that some of the nicest people live in louisiana. anywhere we go, the locals are usually very courteous. and the best food in the world of course is in louisiana: cajun

[lonny23]

i also want to say that some of the nicest people live in louisiana. anywhere we go, the locals are usually very courteous. and the best food in the world of course is in louisiana: cajun
Here is the problem. Black people are nice to black people and white people are nice to white people. You don't get much interaction between the races.

[Miss Kitty]

i also want to say that some of the nicest people live in louisiana. anywhere we go, the locals are usually very courteous. and the best food in the world of course is in louisiana: cajun

You are right. They are nice and the food is great. But it is not the nice ones that are causing all of the trouble in H-town. :(

[lonny23]

You are right. They are nice and the food is great. But it is not the nice ones that are causing all of the trouble in H-town. :(
I don't have use for nice people if they pick and choose who they'll be nice to.

[Miss Kitty]

I don't have use for nice people if they pick and choose who they'll be nice to.

Well the people I have encountered, have been nice to all that I could see. So I liked them.

[LoneRocket]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/03/24/katrina.testscores.ap/index.html

One of two things:
1) New Orleans is that bad in education
2) Texas is just that good in education

Now, an intangible here could be the fact of displacement...
Actually we are in the third year of third grade TAKS reading and first year of fifth grade Math TAKS where you have to pass the test to move on to the next grade. In the first year of reading in Texas there were massive failures except in Waco because they implemented the current policy three years before. So it is logical that the LA students would be about three years behind the curve. The last surveys showed Texas ranked between 45-50, so Rattler we have nothing to be bragging about.

[lonny23]

Well the people I have encountered, have been nice to all that I could see. So I liked them.
You were also dealing with people in the tourist places who have to be nice to everybody to make money.

[lonny23]

Actually we are in the third year of third grade TAKS reading and first year of fifth grade Math TAKS where you have to pass the test to move on to the next grade. In the first year of reading in Texas there were massive failures except in Waco because they implemented the current policy three years before. So it is logical that the LA students would be about three years behind the curve. The last surveys showed Texas ranked between 45-50, so Rattler we have nothing to be bragging about.
Here's the problem with the whole TAKS system. They came up with a test to show that we're teaching our kids, so we now teach them to pass the test instead of learn things.

[LoneRocket]

Here's the problem with the whole TAKS system. They came up with a test to show that we're teaching our kids, so we now teach them to pass the test instead of learn things.
You are right and no child left behind is straining states budgets because of unfunded mandates. Last session the state house passed a measure to include more testing but a few senators killed that measure. I hope next month they do not try to pass more unfunded mandates designed to take local control from school boards.

[dragons08]

Because my grandma goes there all the time to play at the casinos.
nice save nice save..dude admitt it, you go to no for mardi gras..hook me up with a call next year, im in :cool:

[TexasRed6x]

nice save nice save..dude admitt it, you go to no for mardi gras..hook me up with a call next year, im in :cool:
No but I wish I could go to mardi gras because then I would be in babe heaven. :D

[dragons08]

No but I wish I could go to mardi gras because then I would be in babe heaven. :D
which is the same as being in 'just another day in d08's life'

[TexasRed6x]

which is the same as being in 'just another day in d08's life'
Yeah I need to start living a life like that and then I'll be good.

[dragons08]

Yeah I need to start living a life like that and then I'll be good.
hahaha, id rather have a gf instead of a life like that

[lonny23]

You are right and no child left behind is straining states budgets because of unfunded mandates. Last session the state house passed a measure to include more testing but a few senators killed that measure. I hope next month they do not try to pass more unfunded mandates designed to take local control from school boards.
If you don't leave a child behind, you harm the kids up front.

[lonny23]

nice save nice save..dude admitt it, you go to no for mardi gras..hook me up with a call next year, im in :cool:
I thought a playboy like you held your own Mardi Gras?:p :confused:

[lonny23]

No but I wish I could go to mardi gras because then I would be in babe heaven. :D
You're better off finding a girl there where you're at.

[lonny23]

which is the same as being in 'just another day in d08's life'
Yeah, the guy that's just dying to go to Mardi Gras!:D

[dragons08]

I thought a playboy like you held your own Mardi Gras?:p :confused:
i dont plan it, it just occurs, walking through a mall...its mardi gras!

[lonny23]

hahaha, id rather have a gf instead of a life like that
Now, you're talking.

[lonny23]

i dont plan it, it just occurs, walking through a mall...its mardi gras!
Only because you sneak into the women's changing rooms!:p

[TexasRed6x]

You're better off finding a girl there where you're at.
Yeah I guess you know my limits very well.

[TexasRed6x]

hahaha, id rather have a gf instead of a life like that
I would like to have a girlfriend no doubt but I want to get through school instead of getting distracted.

[Firebird]

Texas scores 49th in the nation on verbal SAT scores, 46th on Math SAT scores. We are number 36 as far as high school graduation rate, and 33rd in terms of teacher salaries. Our public schools are nothing any Texan should ever brag about or feel superior about. We have pockets of excellent schools, and a vast hinterland of underperforming schools. Us making fun of Louisiana schools (even thoug I detest Louisiana) is a little like Laredo United South making fun of Houston Northbrook.

[lonny23]

Yeah I guess you know my limits very well.
That's smart.

[TexasRed6x]

That's smart.
Thanks for watching my back.

[lonny23]

I would like to have a girlfriend no doubt but I want to get through school instead of getting distracted.
They definitely distract you. You can still get good grades and have one, though.

[TexasRed6x]

They definitely distract you. You can still get good grades and have one, though.
Yeah I would like to do that.

[lonny23]

Texas scores 49th in the nation on verbal SAT scores, 46th on Math SAT scores. We are number 36 as far as high school graduation rate, and 33rd in terms of teacher salaries. Our public schools are nothing any Texan should ever brag about or feel superior about. We have pockets of excellent schools, and a vast hinterland of underperforming schools. Us making fun of Lousiana schools (even thoug I detest Louisiana) is a little like Laredo United South making fun of Houston Northbrook.
I didn't think we were that low.

Good job on the football analogy.

[CKE]

Texas scores 49th in the nation on verbal SAT scores, 46th on Math SAT scores. We are number 36 as far as high school graduation rate, and 33rd in terms of teacher salaries. Our public schools are nothing any Texan should ever brag about or feel superior about. We have pockets of excellent schools, and a vast hinterland of underperforming schools. Us making fun of Louisiana schools (even thoug I detest Louisiana) is a little like Laredo United South making fun of Houston Northbrook.

dont ever let me catch you talking about texas like that again. i dont care how many facts you come up with about this great state.

[Rerun]

whys it gotta be about black people? i am sick and tired of these racist topics.

[lonny23]

whys it gotta be about black people? i am sick and tired of these racist topics.
The only person who mentioned black people in this thread was me and those 2 topics consisted of racism against black people and how the races in Lousyanna don't talk to each other. All that was said was that kids did poorly on the test. White kids got displaced, too.

[slorch]

Texas scores 49th in the nation on verbal SAT scores, 46th on Math SAT scores. We are number 36 as far as high school graduation rate, and 33rd in terms of teacher salaries. Our public schools are nothing any Texan should ever brag about or feel superior about. We have pockets of excellent schools, and a vast hinterland of underperforming schools. Us making fun of Louisiana schools (even thoug I detest Louisiana) is a little like Laredo United South making fun of Houston Northbrook.
When we lived there, I would joke with our families back in Texas..."You know there's only one reason why La schools aren't the worst in the country? It's called MISSISSIPPI!

The other one is" At 12.5 cents an acre, I still think Jefferson got screwed by the French in the La Purchase!"

[t00 playa]

Working in a school that has evacuees still... and working with thier parents.... they all are extremely impressed with the facilities, and the education as compared to new orleans/ louisiana. Its been a good experience for most... and we have a few that are not going back because of the education factor here than there.. this is happening especially at the elementary level.... which they are low.. and will fail taks for now... but many can be caught up to grade level... and therefore many have chosen to stay because of the better quality of education here than in new orleans and vicinity...:eek:

[Firebird]

dont ever let me catch you talking about texas like that again. i dont care how many facts you come up with about this great state.

Witness one of our problems--denial. Listen, coolestkid, I am about as true blue of a Texan Patriot as you will ever come in contact with. I am 7th generation, and I can go point to my ancestor's name on the monument to the defenders of the Alamo. I love this state and everything in it.

That is why the current state of affairs in our public school system embarrasses me, and why my votes will be given to whoever comes up with the best solution. The sort of patriotism that says "I refuse to recognize the fact that anything the state of Texas does might have a problem" is hurting the great state you proclaim to love so much.

[CKE]

Witness one of our problems--denial. Listen, coolestkid, I am about as true blue of a Texan Patriot as you will ever come in contact with. I am 7th generation, and I can go point to my ancestor's name on the monument to the defenders of the Alamo. I love this state and everything in it.

That is why the current state of affairs in our public school system embarrasses me, and why my votes will be given to whoever comes up with the best solution. The sort of patriotism that says "I refuse to recognize the fact that anything the state of Texas does might have a problem" is hurting the great state you proclaim to love so much.

no you made me sad good day

[lonny23]

In fairness, we do have low scores in many things in Texas.