For those who think Jesuit recruits...

[JCP1984]

Two very true stories:

The stud RB from Florida who was adopted by Deion Sanders...It seems Deion is friends with a current coach at Jesuit who used to play for the Dallas Cowboys...he asked about Jesuit and was given the name and number of the admissions director...the admissions director spoke with Mr. Sanders and explained the admissions process (transcripts, applications, tests, etc.). After hearing about all of this, Deion said "no thanks." I would think if Dallas Jesuit recruited, this young man would be at their school.

A private school 8th grader, who is the son of a another former Cowboy, was recruited by many schools in the area. His mom, who works at Jesuit's "sister" school - Ursuline Academy - wanted him to go to Jesuit. He got in, after he passed summer school. The only school that did not recruit him or offer him a free ride was the school he is now attending.

To all those who say Jesuit recruits, I dare them to prove it.

[trinity05]

i dont think you are going to find many people that care because they still cant compete with the top schools in 5a.

[LeanderLions3033]

^^Oh give him a break. Dallas Jesuit (if thats who you are talking about) had as nice a run as you could hope for, for their first year of UIL 5a football. 10-2 if im not mistaken. Givem a break.

[sltnusmc]

I think alot of people will have a bitter pill to swallow when these private schools get a few years under there belt.

[LoboFan07]

i dont think you are going to find many people that care because they still cant compete with the top schools in 5a.

You obviously know nothing about Dallas Jesuit.

Jesuit had a great team last year. 10-2 (one win by forfeit over Mesquite Horn who was very underrated last year) record, A District Championship even if it did come the Richardson District. And I only see them reloading. That team that came and played the Lobos tried as hard as they could. They brought a good size crowd (bigger than I expected from them atleast). They have a ton of spirit.

The big thing last year in the game was the speed of Longview. Jesuit was SUPER slow as I go back and look at the game tapes.

Jesuit IMO will be even better next year...We shall see..

[Texasfrog]

I think alot of people will have a bitter pill to swallow when these private schools get a few years under there belt.

I agree... :(

[JCP1984]

I, too, saw Jesuit play Longview. Longview's team speed and overall athletic ability was awesome. They were too fast, and they hit just as hard as the typical East Texas team. Jesuit did not play very well (five turnovers), but the best team won. I've seen Jesuit play fast teams like Carter and SGP, but Longview was even faster. And, they were well-coached. Jesuit will never have great team speed, but they overcome that most times with hard-working players who are smart and well-coached. I think Longview was, and probably always will be, a notch above; however, I was a proud alum after Jesuit's first season in UIL 5A. I think they are in the top 40 or 50 in the state, and that is pretty good.

[SLC-Dad]

I think alot of people will have a bitter pill to swallow when these private schools get a few years under there belt.

The recruiting will begin in earnest when there are multiple private schools in the DFW and Houston areas and the pressure to beat each other will out weigh admission "requirements".

Ten years from now Deion probably won't need to worry about those pesky transcripts and tests for his adopted..........

[ktchamp97]

JCP1984,

You are a very respectable poster and I appreciate your input to the board.

From what you tell us (and I believe you), Jesuit does everything by the book and it may, in fact, be overcoming some competitive 'disadvantages' as you have alluded to in the past...that makes what they're doing all the more impressive.

However, the problem people have with Jesuit's involvement in 5A is that their participation opens Pandora's Box, so to speak, and sets a precedent to allow other schools to participate who may not conduct themselves in the same manner as Jesuit has. Sure, some public schools recruit and bend the rules, but if they get caught, there are very real penalties. But, private schools are not bound by the same rules and have the freedom to do what they want with respect to admissions and, therefore, face no penalty for creating a competitive advantage...that is the problem.

I respect what Jesuit is doing on the field, but I must be honest in saying that I don't like what the UIL has done by allowing private schools to compete in the public leagues.

[JCP1984]

I agree completely. I hope Jesuit follows the rules forever. I have no idea if they will, but I would not expect any changes any time soon. The school was, is, and will probably always be about academics and a Jesuit education first and foremost. I belive the UIL let in both Jesuit schools because they were afraid of what would happen if Jesuit won the lawsuit and/or if the Jesuits were able to pass a bill through legislation. The UIL brains decided that they would get Jesuit to stop both the litigation and the bill, and they would allow only the two Jesuit schools in if, and only if, they agreed to follow all UIL rules regarding sports. And, they stated that only private schools willing to go 5A and private school unable to join any other private school league were eligible to try to get into the UIL. Playing 5A is very challenging, and it does not look like any other private school will outgrow TAPPS enrollment cut-off of 1450. So, I think the UIL was very wise.

And, I know Dallas Jesuit tries to follow all UIL rules 100%. Hopefully, they will always be the case. I understand the fear and the "Pandora's Box" concern, but I don't see it happening. We shall see, and only time will tell.

[htownfootball]

in that second post on this thread who said jesuit cant compete in 5A....uummm. didnt dallas jesuit make the playoffs this year....in just about every sport? and as for the jesuit school in houston, they are in one of the, I'd say, top 3 hardest districts for any given sport in the state. put them in the suburban 20-5A and lets see who makes the playoffs then.

[Texasfrog]

I, too, saw Jesuit play Longview. Longview's team speed and overall athletic ability was awesome. They were too fast, and they hit just as hard as the typical East Texas team. Jesuit did not play very well (five turnovers), but the best team won. I've seen Jesuit play fast teams like Carter and SGP, but Longview was even faster. And, they were well-coached. Jesuit will never have great team speed, but they overcome that most times with hard-working players who are smart and well-coached. I think Longview was, and probably always will be, a notch above; however, I was a proud alum after Jesuit's first season in UIL 5A. I think they are in the top 40 or 50 in the state, and that is pretty good.

Shoot.. I think Jesuit is probably about #30th in Texas last season and over the next few years will gradually inch up the scale.

[Texasfrog]

JCP1984,

You are a very respectable poster and I appreciate your input to the board.

From what you tell us (and I believe you), Jesuit does everything by the book and it may, in fact, be overcoming some competitive 'disadvantages' as you have alluded to in the past...that makes what they're doing all the more impressive.

However, the problem people have with Jesuit's involvement in 5A is that their participation opens Pandora's Box, so to speak, and sets a precedent to allow other schools to participate who may not conduct themselves in the same manner as Jesuit has. Sure, some public schools recruit and bend the rules, but if they get caught, there are very real penalties. But, private schools are not bound by the same rules and have the freedom to do what they want with respect to admissions and, therefore, face no penalty for creating a competitive advantage...that is the problem.

I respect what Jesuit is doing on the field, but I must be honest in saying that I don't like what the UIL has done by allowing private schools to compete in the public leagues.

Katy... doesnt Strake Jesuit have (athletes) that can come from like 3 or 4 different school zones ? I thought I remember reading that last season.