Most anticipated non district games????

[GarlandOwl06]

To all what non district games is everyone looking forward to the most and that will draw the biggest crowds????????

[The Dude]

Im sure there are more good ones I'm leaving out, but these are just a few that popped into my head:

the ENTIRE Tyler Lee pre-district
Cove vs Judson
(not a game but still would like to see) Longview-Lufkin scrimmage
Bay City vs LaMarque(4A but still)
Katy vs Woodlands(Reliant stadium)

a couple of sure to be good district games: Judson vs Smithson Valley and Garland vs South Garland

[KT2000]

Katy-Woodlands should draw a huge crowd. The biggest greater Houston area followings. However, since it's the second game in the double header that puts a bit of a damper on Katy's tailgating plans. Normally, the group would show up about 3 hours before kickoff to get the fun started. I'm sure that'll happen anyway...Tiger fans will show up and tailgate...then go watch the first game between Eisenhower and A&M Consolidated if the Reliant folks will allow one ticket=good for two games.

Cove-Judson will be a fun one also. I'd love to see Longview-Marshall play this year now that the Mavs are officially "back".

[Mad Hatter]

we judson people really ought to do the tailgating thing as well, lord knows how many times ive been 2 or 3 hours early to a game and its so boring.... i may have to start a tradition.

[Trinityplayer]

I don't know if this game will draw the biggest but I think it will be a great game. Trinity vs. Tyler Lee at Rose.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

P.A. Memorial vs. Lufkin!

[StormingCowboy]

The RED STORM vs THE G-TOWN OWLS!!!!!

[dentonRYAN]

DRyan vs Denton High..... no one talks more crap then the losers at DHS ..... maybe if we beat them by 50 points this year they will shut up....lol

[g-town07]

lol you just want some revenge from last years 37-7 stomping :D
we'll see we'll see...

[StormingCowboy]

lol you just want some revenge from last years 37-7 stomping :D
we'll see we'll see...


...so you understand the anticipation?!?!?

[g-town07]

unfortunately yes lol
but watch out, your comin to our house this year :D

whatever the outcome i bet its gonna be a crazy game

[PackAttack2005]

For Longview it is the Lufkin scrimmage on August 20th. For Lufkin, I think the last two games of district against The Woodlands and Klein Collins are the most anticipated because those two games could decide the 14-5A district championship.

[grayowl60]

unfortunately yes lol
but watch out, your comin to our house this year :D

whatever the outcome i bet its gonna be a crazy game
Several Garland games are big, for the other side! Ennis, Carter, and North want pay back. I believe the Owls can get pay back with DeSoto, South, and of course, the big one. Lee at Williams. :)

[c-lisle]

For Longview it is the Lufkin scrimmage on August 20th. For Lufkin, I think the last two games of district against The Woodlands and Klein Collins are the most anticipated because those two games could decide the 14-5A district championship.


Actually Lufkin is Longview's most anticipated matchup, but not the scrimmage. We can't wait to meet LP in November. Overlooking people, not really, we know what we have and if we stay healthy we will be in that third round game. I think Lufkin will be too. If the scrimmage is no big deal, then why did y'all keep score last year? I agree the scrimmage doesn't mean squat, but I hope you come to the scrimmage and see how Mcgee/Ivory makes your defense look. You might want to go ahead and figure a plan on how to stop them in November too....if that's possible.

[LoboFan07]

I dont think the Scrimmage is..Sure I cant wait for it to happen but its not the one I want to see the most. We can see that in November hopefully...

Im ready for Longview vs West Monroe on September 3rd...That day will be a fun one! Evangel/Springdale earlier in the day so should be a great day of all Football. Not sure if this one is still planned for FSN like originally planned not that anybody knew about it because of Lee/Colerain (rolls eyes)

I also am very excited about Longview vs Marshall this year to start the year. Should be a sold out Maverick Stadium for sure.

[PackAttack2005]

Rclisle41, just trying to get a rise out of you. You Lobo boys are so sensative.

I am not worried about the Lufkin defense against the McGee/Ivory tandem, we will do just fine. After all our defense has done enough to win 9 games in a row from the Lobos since 1999. It is always next year with you guys and never is that more evident than this year. This year is your best chance for a while to get to the big dance and your pre-season jitters are showing.

I am not even thinking at all about November playoffs, first the season must start and next you need to win enough games to get to the playoffs. I don't put much importance on a scrimmage, you guys can beat us 35 - 0 at that August scrimmage, I don't care. I only care about how Lufkin does in the regular season and if we are fortunate enough to get to the playoffs, we will take one game at a time.

The most important games for Lufkin are our 14-5A district games, because that is where we will prove whether we belong in the playoffs or not.

I will say this, if things work out and Lufkin does get to play Longview again in the playoffs, we will be ready for you and not intimidated. You will need to go through Lufkin just as you have tried to do the last 9 times.

[c-lisle]

Rclisle41, just trying to get a rise out of you. You Lobo boys are so sensative.

I am not worried about the Lufkin defense against the McGee/Ivory tandem, we will do just fine. After all our defense has done enough to win 9 games in a row from the Lobos since 1999. It is always next year with you guys and never is that more evident than this year. This year is your best chance for a while to get to the big dance and your pre-season jitters are showing.

I am not even thinking at all about November playoffs, first the season must start and next you need to win enough games to get to the playoffs. I don't put much importance on a scrimmage, you guys can beat us 35 - 0 at that August scrimmage, I don't care. I only care about how Lufkin does in the regular season and if we are fortunate enough to get to the playoffs, we will take one game at a time.

The most important games for Lufkin are our 14-5A district games, because that is where we will prove whether we belong in the playoffs or not.

I will say this, if things work out and Lufkin does get to play Longview again in the playoffs, we will be ready for you and not intimidated. You will need to go through Lufkin just as you have tried to do the last 9 times.


Sorry to disappoint you, but the streak doesn't phase me. The fact is that Lufkin is just now getting to the status that Longview has been at for many years. The overall record is 31-30 in Lufkin's favor and it took a 9 game win streak to get you there. Another fact is that Longview will have it's day again against LP. I'm not sure whether the streak ends this year, but I do know no defense will be able to contain our backfield. Only time will tell though.

[PACK '97]

well, eventually you will beat LP....you cant deny that, maybe this year, maybe not....but if we do meet each other, it will be another great game...I hope we do meet, I'll definately make it to Home Bryce again...that game was energized and hyped...cant wait

[LeanderLions3033]

Leander vs Westlake

Everybody in the Austin Area wants a piece of Westlake lol.

[battlin'bulldawgs]

Can't wait to see my boys (former teammates) take the field against Judson. Last year we outgained them by far in every category, but that Fox kid busted 3 50+ yd. td runs

[PackAttack2005]

I disagree, Lufkin has accomplished more than Longview in the last 7 years since 1998. We have been better than Longview judging by our State Championship in 2001 and our two semi-final appearences in 2002 and 2004.

You guys in Longview are alway our toughest competition and strongest current rival, other than Southlake, but to say Lufkin has just reach the level of Longview is absurd. You Lobo fans also seem to have Southlake in your sights as well, I think your frustrated there because you guys thought you had a game plan to beat them last year and didn't get there.

I do agree with you on one thing, your only as good as your last win, winning streaks mean nothing.

[c-lisle]

I disagree, Lufkin has accomplished more than Longview in the last 7 years since 1998. We have been better than Longview judging by our State Championship in 2001 and our two semi-final appearences in 2002 and 2004.

You guys in Longview are alway our toughest competition and strongest current rival, other than Southlake, but to say Lufkin has just reach the level of Longview is absurd. You Lobo fans also seem to have Southlake in your sights as well, I think your frustrated there because you guys thought you had a game plan to beat them last year and didn't get there.

I do agree with you on one thing, your only as good as your last win, winning streaks mean nothing.

No doubt LP has been better in the last 6-7 yrs. Before the Outlaw era Longview was much more dominant and known state-wide. That's what I meant when I said LP has just recently reached the Longview's level.

[pack0808]

i could care less either if longview beats lufkin in the scrimmage. the same goes for the humble scrimmage. who cares?? the 3rd and 4th strings will probably decide those little 1 half games. big deal!! it is good practice and nothing more. outlaw has said several times that he has never tried to win smrimmages and never will try to win scrimmages. that is not his goal. his goal is to look at how his new kids are going to play in a varsity game setting down to the 4th string and his goal is to get everybody's timing down and get everybody ready for the regular season by hitting another uniform. that is about it. i just cannot wait until the start of the real season and i am not a bit excited about a scrimmage game. never have never will.

[The Great Evaluator]

Trinity vs. Midland Lee on Sept.2 . Smash mouth football at its best!

[pack0808]

and rclisle!! i do not see this lufkin 1st string defense getting embarrassed by anyone. that is an honest opinion and i might be wrong. looks like 5atexasfootball agrees because they have lufkin ranked #1 in total defense. #2 defensive line #1 linebackers and #1 secondary. but if anybody is going to be able to run on lufkin successfully it will be longview. they have one of the top rushing attacks in the state along with westfield no doubt.

non-district games i am looking forward to?? longview vs marshall, longview vs monroe, the woodlands vs ns the woodlands vs katy carter vs garland carter vs lamar ennis vs garland lufkin vs pam tyler lee vs colerain tyler lee vs florida team tyler lee vs trinity john tyler vs texarkana slc vs midland lee

[slcdragons]

I'd guess for the Dragons it'd be wehn we tee it up against Midland Lee Rebels :D

[lonny23]

Can't wait to see my boys (former teammates) take the field against Judson. Last year we outgained them by far in every category, but that Fox kid busted 3 50+ yd. td runs
I beg to differ on your analysis. You guys played a competitive game, but saying you totally outplayed a team that beat you 28-12 is not accurate. I'm sure Judson has another Kyle Fox out there with a good returning line.

[LoboFan07]

The Lufkin/Outlaw era is one of the most dominate eras in our times so far...but before Outlaw came to Lufkin..They werent anything compared to what they are now.

What Rclisle is trying to say that Longview has been the dominate team we are since 1967. Sure we havent won State. But we have been that team that wins games all season long. We have been that team that makes it far in the playoffs since then. Before '67, we won District in 58 and 59 but not outright and it took us 20 years to win the District outright without being tied. 47-67 we didnt win one. Before '47. We were the most dominate team in the State of Texas.
We won 9 District Championships in the years between 1924 and 1947. We won 1 State Championship. We won 4 Bi-District Championships. 1927, We would've won State if we were a Class A school. There is no question in my mind that we were National Champions that year if you look at our schedule and only letting up 2 points all season in a win that was 78-2 and beating one College team while tieing another.
But since 67, Longview has won 16 District Championships. Longview in Total has 27 District Championships (4 Co-Champions). That is the most in East Texas. John Tyler doesnt have more. Tyler Lee doesnt. Marshall doesnt. Texas High doesnt. And Lufkin doesnt. We've made it to the big dance once. We made it to the Semi Finals twice. We've made it to the State Quarterfinals 3 times.

All Rclisle was saying was that Longview has been one of the State's best teams almost our whole history. Sure we've had some bad seasons but we've never been bad enough to go 0-10. We've never had a winless season. We've had 30 winning seasons in the past 33 years. We're obviously doing something right after spitting off 24 straight winning seasons in a row before the 95 season when we went 4-5-1 only to go to the Quarterfinals the next season before the 97 season and going to State. So obviously we've done something right in Longview. Sure we havent won State and this town is DIEING for a chance at a State Championship. Everyone here remembers the 1997 season when we went to State. This town was Green Gold and White everywhere. Pine Tree people. Spring Hill people. Who in other cases HATE us...were cheering us on.

Since 1953, when Lufkin joined Longview, Marshall, and all the rest of us..They've won 11 District Champions (not including this year). Two of those came in the Outlaw Era. 5 of those District Championships..We're Co-District Champs.

This year was Lufkin's first ever! 10-0 Perfect Season...Longview has had 8 of them...8 compared to 1..

Lufkin didnt even make it to the playoffs until 1936 when they won their first ever District Championship. Before 1953, Lufkin won 8 District Championships. Making it to the State Championship game in 1943 losing San Angelo 26-13..

This year was Lufkin's first back to back District Championship season since the era between 1943 and 1947 where they won 5 straight District Championships.

Theres no question Lufkin has been good if not the best team in the State since Outlaw arrived here..But there is no way in their history that they were the team Longview used to be.

[jrdaniel]

Can't wait to see my boys (former teammates) take the field against Judson. Last year we outgained them by far in every category, but that Fox kid busted 3 50+ yd. td runs

In case you didn't see the box score for that game, here ya go.

_______________Copperas Cove________Judson
First Downs___________19_______________12
Rushing Yards_______45-233____________36-277
Passing Yards_________86________________5
Return Yards___________0________________8
Passes_______________9-21_____________1-4
Punts_______________4-.30.8___________3-35.7
Fumbles______________1-0______________2-0
Penalties_____________3-30_____________2-15

Fox did roll up 245 yards and 1 TD though. We also had a score on a 84 yard KO return. So if you count first downs and passing yards "every category" then yes, y'all whipped our tails in every category. Looking forward to seeing this matchup next season as well.

[pack0808]

The Lufkin/Outlaw era is one of the most dominate eras in our times so far...but before Outlaw came to Lufkin..They werent anything compared to what they are now.

What Rclisle is trying to say that Longview has been the dominate team we are since 1967. Sure we havent won State. But we have been that team that wins games all season long. We have been that team that makes it far in the playoffs since then. Before '67, we won District in 58 and 59 but not outright and it took us 20 years to win the District outright without being tied. 47-67 we didnt win one. Before '47. We were the most dominate team in the State of Texas.
We won 9 District Championships in the years between 1924 and 1947. We won 1 State Championship. We won 4 Bi-District Championships. 1927, We would've won State if we were a Class A school. There is no question in my mind that we were National Champions that year if you look at our schedule and only letting up 2 points all season in a win that was 78-2 and beating one College team while tieing another.
But since 67, Longview has won 16 District Championships. Longview in Total has 27 District Championships (4 Co-Champions). That is the most in East Texas. John Tyler doesnt have more. Tyler Lee doesnt. Marshall doesnt. Texas High doesnt. And Lufkin doesnt. We've made it to the big dance once. We made it to the Semi Finals twice. We've made it to the State Quarterfinals 3 times.

All Rclisle was saying was that Longview has been one of the State's best teams almost our whole history. Sure we've had some bad seasons but we've never been bad enough to go 0-10. We've never had a winless season. We've had 30 winning seasons in the past 33 years. We're obviously doing something right after spitting off 24 straight winning seasons in a row before the 95 season when we went 4-5-1 only to go to the Quarterfinals the next season before the 97 season and going to State. So obviously we've done something right in Longview. Sure we havent won State and this town is DIEING for a chance at a State Championship. Everyone here remembers the 1997 season when we went to State. This town was Green Gold and White everywhere. Pine Tree people. Spring Hill people. Who in other cases HATE us...were cheering us on.

Since 1953, when Lufkin joined Longview, Marshall, and all the rest of us..They've won 11 District Champions (not including this year). Two of those came in the Outlaw Era. 5 of those District Championships..We're Co-District Champs.

This year was Lufkin's first ever! 10-0 Perfect Season...Longview has had 8 of them...8 compared to 1..

Lufkin didnt even make it to the playoffs until 1936 when they won their first ever District Championship. Before 1953, Lufkin won 8 District Championships. Making it to the State Championship game in 1943 losing San Angelo 26-13..

This year was Lufkin's first back to back District Championship season since the era between 1943 and 1947 where they won 5 straight District Championships.

Theres no question Lufkin has been good if not the best team in the State since Outlaw arrived here..But there is no way in their history that they were the team Longview used to be.



wow, what a history lesson. i am talking way back stuff!! say all you want but lufkin still leads the overall series 31-30!! period!! both teams have been very very even over history with one going through a dominant stretch over the other at times. lufkin is currently on their biggest dominant stretch over longview. longview had a few streaks themselves on lufkin and it has evened out. lufkin is 5th all time in 5a wins by the way. on the outlaw era, believe me that we lufkin fans know lufkin was not near as dominant since the outlaw era. no comparison!! he has put lufkin on the map in a big way. before outlaw lufkin was very inconsisitent to say the least. they would have few good years a few bad years and a few average years and it was a team that rarely went very deep in the playoffs unless you go way back. but since outlaw lufkin has been a big time program that rarely loses. lufkin has always had talent but outlaw knew how to put it all together and build a great winning program. i think this kind of success can continue at lufkin even when outlaw leaves because he showed us the way and built the foundation and the next guy will just follow in his footsteps. as a town lufkin is only going to grow in the future and the there should be even more talent in the upcoming years if that is possible.

[LoboFan07]

Ok really you can stop bragging about being 5 All Time in 5A wins...I've heard you say that atleast 4 times..

And I come back with the same response everytime.. Longview is 5th All Time in Playoff Appearances in 5A and could tie for 4th this year if they make the playoffs.

[bleedgreen]

Longview-West Monroe at Independence Stadium----can't wait!! Longview/Lufkin scrimmage(even though the first strings won't be out there but for a few series), Longview/Marshall(because Marshall has signs of life again), Longview/Evangel(because i can't stand Evangel), and Longview/Lake highlands(good rivalry---poor folk VS the rich folk--LOL).......as for the Longview/Lufkin argument that we HAVE to go through year in and year out on this website, we have NO room to talk----they have handed us our butts NINE times in row!! end of argument....maybe it will end some day???

[lonny23]

Longview-West Monroe at Independence Stadium----can't wait!! Longview/Lufkin scrimmage(even though the first strings won't be out there but for a few series), Longview/Marshall(because Marshall has signs of life again), Longview/Evangel(because i can't stand Evangel), and Longview/Lake highlands(good rivalry---poor folk VS the rich folk--LOL).......as for the Longview/Lufkin argument that we HAVE to go through year in and year out on this website, we have NO room to talk----they have handed us our butts NINE times in row!! end of argument....maybe it will end some day???
Bleed, I don't want to make you mad because you know I want Longview to beat Lufkin and end that losing streak, but I don't see it happening yet. Longview never has enough of a talent advantage to overcome the fact that Lufkin has a better coach. It's the same story between UT and OU.

[c-lisle]

Bleed, I don't want to make you mad because you know I want Longview to beat Lufkin and end that losing streak, but I don't see it happening yet. Longview never has enough of a talent advantage to overcome the fact that Lufkin has a better coach. It's the same story between UT and OU.


Sad....but true. Hopefully we will have to make them prove it again in November though. We won't down without a fight.

[pack0808]

Ok really you can stop bragging about being 5 All Time in 5A wins...I've heard you say that atleast 4 times..

And I come back with the same response everytime.. Longview is 5th All Time in Playoff Appearances in 5A and could tie for 4th this year if they make the playoffs.


i keep bringing it up with you because you keep going way back on longview's past accomplishments ;) but guess what?? i have another history lesson you might not want to hear me say. although longview has more playoff appearances lufkin has more playoff wins. :eek: hey, i do not want to continue to argue about the distant past. the fact is lufkin and longview have been very even throughout history and both teams have had their share of runs against the other. i have nothing but respect for longview and i am looking forward to another battle in the playoffs. it is only summer so lets all calm down a little. lol we will have plenty of time for trash talking later. ;) the undeniable fact is that lufkin has the current bragging rights on longview right now. without a doubt!! i know yall are ready for it to change so you do not have to ever hear about the dang streak anymore. i am even getting tired about hearing about the streak and my team is the one on the winning streak. lol

[bleedgreen]

Lonny, no reason to get mad over that comment, brother----you are absolutely right....Outlaw is a great coach, no doubt. the talent pools for both towns are pretty even IMHO......our coach is somewhat new, but he is a great motivater just as Outlaw is.....give it time, it will come.........

[LoboFan07]

i keep bringing it up with you because you keep going way back on longview's past accomplishments ;) but guess what?? i have another history lesson you might not want to hear me say. although longview has more playoff appearances lufkin has more playoff wins. :eek: hey, i do not want to continue to argue about the distant past. the fact is lufkin and longview have been very even throughout history and both teams have had their share of runs against the other. i have nothing but respect for longview and i am looking forward to another battle in the playoffs. it is only summer so lets all calm down a little. lol we will have plenty of time for trash talking later. ;) the undeniable fact is that lufkin has the current bragging rights on longview right now. without a doubt!! i know yall are ready for it to change so you do not have to ever hear about the dang streak anymore. i am even getting tired about hearing about the streak and my team is the one on the winning streak. lol

Boy I wish I could say that last line HA! Good Luck to you guys in Lufkin this year. No doubt Ill be rooting for you till the Lobos come a knocking once again (hopefully that will happen). Unlike Tyler Lee where I will be rooting for every team to beat them now. Man those Lee fans after they won State make you Lufkin fans seem like Gods! Ill be the one with GO COLERAIN BEAT LEE on the back of my car :)

[CCDawgs05]

In case you didn't see the box score for that game, here ya go.

_______________Copperas Cove________Judson
First Downs___________19_______________12
Rushing Yards_______45-233____________36-277
Passing Yards_________86________________5
Return Yards___________0________________8
Passes_______________9-21_____________1-4
Punts_______________4-.30.8___________3-35.7
Fumbles______________1-0______________2-0
Penalties_____________3-30_____________2-15

Fox did roll up 245 yards and 1 TD though. We also had a score on a 84 yard KO return. So if you count first downs and passing yards "every category" then yes, y'all whipped our tails in every category. Looking forward to seeing this matchup next season as well.

trust me....it'll be fun....

[bleedgreen]

no way, Lobo07------Tyler Lee is a part of OUR district and they are from EAST TEXAS......come on guys, some of you Lobo fans give the rest of us bad reputations....i was pulling for Lufkin and Tyler Lee last season to bring it all home to the East........alot of you Lobo fans are on here are doing ALOT of bragging. just for the record to all of the posters on this website, you all know who is doing the "talking"---leave me out of it. i don't want to be eating crow like alot of people will be doing throughout the season.....that is one reason that i didn't open my mouth last season when all of the trash talking was going on before the Longview/Lufkin game....i've learned over the years.........................come on REL, i hope you kick the crap out of Colerain............................

[lonny23]

Lonny, no reason to get mad over that comment, brother----you are absolutely right....Outlaw is a great coach, no doubt. the talent pools for both towns are pretty even IMHO......our coach is somewhat new, but he is a great motivater just as Outlaw is.....give it time, it will come.........
I got to thinking about my comments about Longview-Lufkin at work and they need a caveat like so many other top games. Turnovers and bad games coupled with the best game a team has played all year can produce big upsets. All the Lobos need to beat Lufkin is to play one of their best games of the year and have Lufkin off of their game a little. The talent level is close enough that the game can go either way.

[bleedgreen]

this is true, but, last season's game between LV/Lufkin STARTED out just as that. not trying to "step" on any Lufkin fan's toes or get an argument started but, Longview was moving the ball and scoring with ease until the turnover bug started biting. Ivory coughing the ball up 4 times because of a broken wrist advanced Lufkin on to the next round. not his fault though, coaches shouldn't even had him in there in the first place---dumb move, and we ended up paying for it....hats off to Lufkin--they took the fumbles and capitalized on them just as a great team should do. don't really think Lufkin's game was "down" and Longview's was "up"-----i think both teams wanted it just as bad as the other, but we came out on the short end of the stick....turnovers ARE part of the game and Lufkin didn't turn it over..we did----end of story.................

[lonny23]

no way, Lobo07------Tyler Lee is a part of OUR district and they are from EAST TEXAS......come on guys, some of you Lobo fans give the rest of us bad reputations....i was pulling for Lufkin and Tyler Lee last season to bring it all home to the East........alot of you Lobo fans are on here are doing ALOT of bragging. just for the record to all of the posters on this website, you all know who is doing the "talking"---leave me out of it. i don't want to be eating crow like alot of people will be doing throughout the season.....that is one reason that i didn't open my mouth last season when all of the trash talking was going on before the Longview/Lufkin game....i've learned over the years.........................come on REL, i hope you kick the crap out of Colerain............................
Which did you want more between Lee winning or Judson losing? :D

[bleedgreen]

didn't want Judson to lose---never wish that on anyone....just like seeing people put in their place after a bunch of talking during the season about how GREAT their football team is--LOL..........on a serious note, REL and SLC both won state last season...if i remember, i don't think either of their fans did any type of trash talking during the season on this website....does that say something about the fans as well as their teams???? i think when state championships are won(in the past), it turns the fans into arrogant people.... i could name some fans that brag and boast on their teams non-stop, but i won't---LOL..................................

[LoboFan07]

No you see...Im not bragging I clearly was stating facts on everything Ive said here...

The Lee issue is way past my head...If you saw my posts on other websites you would know I was going nuts for Lee when they won State last season. I was at the Lufkin/SLC game on the phone the whole game with a person telling me how the game was going play by play. I was happy them.

I made the mistake of going on Smoaky and giving a truthful opinion saying I thought Colerain would win even though I wanted REL to win...I got bashed like I was from Ohio (no point intended concha).

I had no intention of cheering for Colerain AT ALL or much less freakin Rockwall againist them or that dang Florida school. But now that I got bashed for giving one opinion, screw em. I dont care about em. They might be from East Texas but it doesnt matter to me anymore. I've always hated Lufkin but their fans have never come and bashed me for me giving my opinion on a game (surprising now that I think about it LOL). REL fans have gotten their head thinking they'll go right back to State with any test and go 15-0.

The fact is that werent even 14-1! They were 12-3. They lost to Lufkin. They lost to Trinity. And they lost to us. But since they made it to a State Championship game and won they would've beaten us on December 18th if they had to play us in another game.

I was all for cheering for Lee but if I do go to any Tyler Lee game now..I will be sitting on the opposing side. I have some great Tyler Lee friends but some are just piss me type people..

I think it would be fun to go up to Columbus actually and sit on the Colerain side in all Lobo Green with a big sign saying This Lobo Support Colerain! BEAT REL! Thatd be great!

[pack0808]

lee made up for the trinity loss by beating them in the state semis. they were seriously banged up against trinity when they met in the regular season and lost. they were really a 13-2 team to me.

[bleedgreen]

Lobo07----yell for who you want to. some REL fans piss me off as well as some Lufkin fans. and i'm sure that i piss a few off along the way too....but, when it comes down to it, i will pull for a Texas team, an East Texas team anyday before i will yell for anyone from OHIO---that's crazy!! pack0808--i do agree with that 13-2 record for Lee. what's funny is that i have read several posts from people that said Lee was still "banged" up when they lost to us....of course, that's horsecrap! it is a WELL-known fact that those "banged" up players could have returned the prior week to our game, but they were held out for the district game against us...............

[pack0808]

you have to pur all your issues aside with tyler lee when they go up against ohio that is crazy!! got to pull for your state!!! i personally cheer for longview and tyler lee in a big way when they are not going up against lufkin. they represent east texas. yes i hate them when i play them but that is different. i saw lufkin beat both longview and lee last year and i would have definitely preferred lufkin playing lee last year then longview. longview was the better team in my view even though both teams were very very good.

[bleedgreen]

spoken like a true gentleman......i guess that's why we agree on so much.....i believe Longview was a better team than Lee last season. i also believe that Longview was a better team than Lufkin last season, but we all know the rest of the story....................but, to pull for an Ohio team over a Texas team IS pretty crazy. everyone is entitled to pull for who they want to, i guess???????

[pack0808]

we agree on most things but i cannot say longview was better then lufkin last year. i will agree they were about as even as 2 teams could get last year though. yes longview mostly dominated the stats but to me the better team knows how to make plays when it counts in the 4th quarter. lufkin did that all year by outscoring their opponents by an outrageous amount in the 4th quarter. so i have to give a slight edge to lufkin last year. the overall talent was very close with lufkin having more div1a signees.

[bleedgreen]

yes, i do agree with the talents being pretty even, and lufkin did have more D1 signees, but as far as the 4th quarter is concerned in the playoff game, it wouldn't have even been close without the 4 fumbles by Ivory. Longview was looking way more stronger than Lufkin, moving the ball with ease, and basically had your boys and fans in state of shock, so to speak. but, like i've stated before, turnovers are a part of the game and you guys definitely knew what to do with them..........just my opinion.....no excuses, just analyzing......................

[lonny23]

didn't want Judson to lose---never wish that on anyone....just like seeing people put in their place after a bunch of talking during the season about how GREAT their football team is--LOL..........on a serious note, REL and SLC both won state last season...if i remember, i don't think either of their fans did any type of trash talking during the season on this website....does that say something about the fans as well as their teams???? i think when state championships are won(in the past), it turns the fans into arrogant people.... i could name some fans that brag and boast on their teams non-stop, but i won't---LOL..................................
I love how your 2nd statement contradicts the first one. Just go ahead and say you wanted them to lose. I have no qualms telling people that I root against their team every week until they lose and Judson passes them in the polls. I thought it was great when North Shore and Katy got beat.

I'm raising the red flag on your comments about SLC and Lee. SLC fans blew this website up all year talking about how great they were and I didn't have a problem with it. I just argued all year that Judson was better than them.

Lee fans didn't brag on this website last year, because the vast majority of them didn't show up until after they won the title and we've heard plenty about how good they were and are going to be this year. Like always, I say you have scoreboard when you're the champs and nobody can say anything about you bragging.

[bleedgreen]

again, to be really honest Lonny, i did not want judson to lose---matter of fact, really didn't care if they won or lost. if you're not wearing dark green and have a "rocking" L on your helmet, then i basically don't care(unless my team is out of the playoffs and you are from East Texas). when Judson got eliminated last season, i didn't go out and throw a party. BUT, i did want to make you eat a little crow, so to speak. and really, on top of that, i didn't even jump your case like i wanted to. i know how you felt because my Lobos had just went through the same thing--it's not a good feeling at all. like i said last season, it's one thing to brag and boast a little about your respective school or team. but, to put them up as the greatest thing since sliced bread or God's gift to highschool football(like you did) is definitely a different scenario. and you know that it wasn't just me making these allegations on how you carried on about Judson, several other posters also commented on that throughout the entire season--you know and i know. you read the posts just like i did. i do remember alot of people giving you a good "razzing" after that loss, but i didn't(even though you and i disagreed the entire season on everything)--i do have SOME morals...not many, but some--LOL. i don't remember SLC fans talking alot of trash--maybe a little bragging, but they can definitely back it up. as for Lee, there were alot of posters last season but they didn't talk any trash. it almost seemed like they weren't even there. now, after they won the title, sure, why not come on and brag a little--you just won the state title! if and when we ever do don't think for a second that i won't be on here giving my team a few props. hell, for that matter, if we can beat Lufkin i will do the same thing. BUT, you won't catch me rubbing it in anyone's faces either--- that's pretty juvenile and immature. hey, brag about Judson..they are a great program with a rich tradition and a handfull of state titles. it's just a matter of putting them on an "untouchable" pedestal and running down other programs--just as you did Longview almost every week....just a conversation, not an argument--don't get your feathers ruffled--LOL........................

[lonny23]

again, to be really honest Lonny, i did not want judson to lose---matter of fact, really didn't care if they won or lost. if you're not wearing dark green and have a "rocking" L on your helmet, then i basically don't care(unless my team is out of the playoffs and you are from East Texas). when Judson got eliminated last season, i didn't go out and throw a party. BUT, i did want to make you eat a little crow, so to speak. and really, on top of that, i didn't even jump your case like i wanted to. i know how you felt because my Lobos had just went through the same thing--it's not a good feeling at all. like i said last season, it's one thing to brag and boast a little about your respective school or team. but, to put them up as the greatest thing since sliced bread or God's gift to highschool football(like you did) is definitely a different scenario. and you know that it wasn't just me making these allegations on how you carried on about Judson, several other posters also commented on that throughout the entire season--you know and i know. you read the posts just like i did. i do remember alot of people giving you a good "razzing" after that loss, but i didn't(even though you and i disagreed the entire season on everything)--i do have SOME morals...not many, but some--LOL. i don't remember SLC fans talking alot of trash--maybe a little bragging, but they can definitely back it up. as for Lee, there were alot of posters last season but they didn't talk any trash. it almost seemed like they weren't even there. now, after they won the title, sure, why not come on and brag a little--you just won the state title! if and when we ever do don't think for a second that i won't be on here giving my team a few props. hell, for that matter, if we can beat Lufkin i will do the same thing. BUT, you won't catch me rubbing it in anyone's faces either--- that's pretty juvenile and immature. hey, brag about Judson..they are a great program with a rich tradition and a handfull of state titles. it's just a matter of putting them on an "untouchable" pedestal and running down other programs--just as you did Longview almost every week....just a conversation, not an argument--don't get your feathers ruffled--LOL........................
I'm not ruffled, but I was commenting on you saying you didn't root for them to lose, but you wanted me to eat crow. That tells me that you usually don't hold any malice for Judson or any other team, but you did enjoy seeing the Rockets so I'd get my due. You also know I said I had it coming and I expected it because I wrote a check that Judson couldn't cash. I got off on the wrong foot with you and that started everything else that happened because Lufkin and Lee came to your rescue. That hasn't been the case since sometime in November.

I see three reasons that I got on some people's wrong side and they are definitely in this order. I was viewed as attacking other teams in their threads, I bragged about Judson in other threads, and my general exhaltations about the Rockets.

My analysis:

To a certain extent I was attacking. I said some stuff because I knew somebody else would get mad. I said some stuff and didn't mean to anger, but the bitterness was already there. I was too dogmatic in stating my opinion as fact and that set people off.

It's OK to brag a little outside of the thread for your team, but I did it too much on others and that's wrong.

I stated my opinion like it was fact and nobody likes to hear that all the time.

The SLC fans were just as cocky as I was, but they mostly said it on their own threads or at the most in the Dallas threads until the playoffs when it spread to that week's opponent. They didn't think anybody could beat them or even come close and stated it openly and often. I didn't think anybody could beat Judson, but I did see them having to fight through potential games.

Tate was the only big-time Lee guy I remember throughout the year. The others just didn't post much, but they picked up a lot after the year. They should be proud of what they did last year and may do this year.

[c-lisle]

yes, i do agree with the talents being pretty even, and lufkin did have more D1 signees, but as far as the 4th quarter is concerned in the playoff game, it wouldn't have even been close without the 4 fumbles by Ivory. Longview was looking way more stronger than Lufkin, moving the ball with ease, and basically had your boys and fans in state of shock, so to speak. but, like i've stated before, turnovers are a part of the game and you guys definitely knew what to do with them..........just my opinion.....no excuses, just analyzing......................


Unfortunately you are speaking to the choir about the fumbles in last year's playoff game. In your absence from the board we have had this discussion over and over. We all know Longview was the better team and dominated that game but it is sad that a bad coaching decision to play a guy with a broken hand decided the outcome. I really hope Longview and Lufkin play again this year for the simple fact that I want Ivory to have his revenge. The guy is an awesome kid and player and will prove it to all if given the chance again.

[pack0808]

hey rclisle, that is fine you think that longview was by far the better team last year then lufkin and i would not expect less from a very biased and bitter longview fan that has endured loss after loss after loss after loss after loss after loss after loss after loss after loss to lufkin since 1999. hey, i do not blame you for holding onto that!! but please do not say everyone knows longview was better then lufkin last year because that is just completely false. maybe everybody in longview thought that but the vast majority of the state did not. i actually heard some longview fans say in the past that the longview 02 team was better then the lufkin 02 team after losing to them 3 times in that same year. :eek: some are beyond convincing!! i guess somebody maybe had a broken toe in those games and that was the reason for the 3 losses in 1 year i do not know?? :rolleyes: i have a little advice for you, wait until longview actually beats lufkin before you say they are better then lufkin in public please. it only makes sense. you do not see me saying that lufkin was the better team to slc fans do you?? why?? because lufkin is not until they beat them. period!! there are always excuses for losses!! it is normal for a team to feel like they were the better team after a loss and for them to say if it was not for this or that we would have won. that is completely normal and i have felt that way myself after my team lost on many occasions.

again, i respect longview tremendously as a program and i think they have a good shot at taking the div2 title this year just like lufkin does. it is fine that you thought longview was better then lufkin last year even though they lost but do not come in here and say everybody thought longview was clearly better then lufkin because that is not true and i had to respond. we need to just relax a little because it is only july. :)

[c-lisle]

hey rclisle, that is fine you think that longview was by far the better team last year then lufkin and i would not expect less from a very biased and bitter longview fan that has endured loss after loss after loss after loss after loss after loss after loss after loss after loss to lufkin since 1999. hey, i do not blame you for holding onto that!! but please do not say everyone knows longview was better then lufkin last year because that is just completely false. maybe everybody in longview thought that but the vast majority of the state did not. i actually heard some longview fans say in the past that the longview 02 team was better then the lufkin 02 team after losing to them 3 times in that same year. :eek: some are beyond convincing!! i guess somebody maybe had a broken toe in those games and that was the reason for the 3 losses in 1 year i do not know?? :rolleyes: i have a little advice for you, wait until longview actually beats lufkin before you say they are better then lufkin in public please. it only makes sense. you do not see me saying that lufkin was the better team to slc fans do you?? why?? because lufkin is not until they beat them. period!! there are always excuses for losses!! it is normal for a team to feel like they were the better team after a loss and for them to say if it was not for this or that we would have won. that is completely normal and i have felt that way myself after my team lost on many occasions.

again, i respect longview tremendously as a program and i think they have a good shot at taking the div2 title this year just like lufkin does. it is fine that you thought longview was better then lufkin last year even though they lost but do not come in here and say everybody thought longview was clearly better then lufkin because that is not true and i had to respond. we need to just relax a little because it is only july. :)



:) :)

[bleedgreen]

KABOOM!!!!! there's my Lufkin boy. i knew that you would come out with a rebuttle on this subject sooner or later--LOL.....last year's game was won by Lufkin--end of story..i'm sure that everyone has their own opinions on what "coulda, shoulda, and woulda" happened, but that's not going to change the outcome....as for people saying that the '02 Longview team was better than the '02 Lufkin team----no way! how could people say that after us losing to them not once, not twice, but THREE damn times??? at least last year's scenario had a LITTLE room for an argument, but not '02....that is a year that i will NEVER forget!!

[bleedgreen]

why is there a "thumbs down" icon on my post???? :eek: :eek: :eek:

[bleedgreen]

Lonny--totally agree with your last post, brother......man, are you a writer or something. i swear, you and dragonsdaddy put things so eloquently some times--lol................

[lonny23]

Lonny--totally agree with your last post, brother......man, are you a writer or something. i swear, you and dragonsdaddy put things so eloquently some times--lol................
Thanks. I've never tried to make any money off of writing, but do have an aptitude for some types of writing. I can do it for editorial stuff like our opinion around here or for a historial account of a story. I don't have the desire for most types of fiction since I like true stuff and probably don't have the aptitude for very much fiction. I did like a play script I wrote one time for college with a lot of satire and joking around. It had all kinds of cartoon characters, some TV guys, and others like Tony the Tiger and Smokey the Bear in the cast of characters.

[pack0808]

why is there a thumbs down on your post bleed?? that is a first!! :)

[lonny23]

why is there a "thumbs down" icon on my post???? :eek: :eek: :eek:
Too bad we didn't have thumbs last year! :D

[StormingCowboy]

Irving MacArthur and Allen should be a good one!! Last year this game opened up a lot of eyes. This game may have the EXPECTED results for last year.