Cowboys to sign the Cancer

[jtk1519]

This is a sad, dark day.

http://www.klbk13.tv/sports/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=1461

[SVite]

Yes sir,he`ll be all right,Parcells will handle the TO!


Terrell Owens - WR - Eagles


KLBK-13, the CBS affiliate in Dallas, reports that Terrell Owens will be introduced as a member of the Cowboys Monday.
The report's headline say Owens will sign, while the article's contents claim he already has. That doesn't help credibility. No other national or Dallas news source is backing up the story at this point. The Cowboys released Keyshawn Johnson earlier this week. Mar. 16

[shs13]

Yes sir,he`ll be all right,Parcells will handle the TO!


Terrell Owens - WR - Eagles


KLBK-13, the CBS affiliate in Dallas, reports that Terrell Owens will be introduced as a member of the Cowboys Monday.
The report's headline say Owens will sign, while the article's contents claim he already has. That doesn't help credibility. No other national or Dallas news source is backing up the story at this point. The Cowboys released Keyshawn Johnson earlier this week. Mar. 16

that reports false

TheRanchReport.com has now confirmed that report is false.

According to two sources close to Owens, he has not yet signed a contract of any kind with the Dallas Cowboys.

[jtk1519]

What the Cancer's people are denying is that a deal has been signed... not that a deal has been agreed to. It looks as though a deal has been agreed to, the papers just haven't been signed yet.

[SLCDRGN]

I cannot believe the Cowboys are even considering signing this cancer!! I thought Jones learned from his mistakes in the past. The day the Cowboys sign this troublemaker (if they do) will be the day I divorce the Cowboys. This is NOT a joke!!

I am SICK to my stomach!

[Daniel Agnew]

I cannot believe the Cowboys are even considering signing this cancer!! I thought Jones learned from his mistakes in the past. The day the Cowboys sign this troublemaker (if they do) will be the day I divorce the Cowboys. This is NOT a joke!!

I am SICK to my stomach!


I am with you 100% my man, I hope they don't sign this a** hole.

[SeguinMatadors]

We have to sign this guy. High risk... high reward. If we sign T.O. and he can just give us one year... we are competing for a Superbowl. We are pretty set at QB, HB, TE, and if we sign T.O. we have the big threat reciever we have been missing. I say give him an incentive based contract with a clause regarding contract detremental to the team. Look, I am not his biggest fan but I am a Cowboys fan and in the words of Al Davis... "Just win baby"

[shs13]

how will T.O survive with an aging Bledsoe? Hes whined about, Garcia and McNabb already.

McNabb is a good QB and he did his best to feed him the ball. If T.O didnt have a good game he would blame it on him.

Now what if Drew goes down next year and the other QB cannot feed him the ball that much? or if Drew just doesnt have a good season?

we all know T.O is 33 and doesnt have much left and wants to stock pile as much receptions and stats in his profile as he can before he begins to suck or retires.

cuz you know T.O has said even after that incident he wont keep his mouth closed and will speak what is in his mind...

[SeguinMatadors]

how will T.O survive with an aging Bledsoe? Hes whined about, Garcia and McNabb already.

McNabb is a good QB and he did his best to feed him the ball. If T.O didnt have a good game he would blame it on him.

Now what if Drew goes down next year and the other QB cannot feed him the ball that much? or if Drew just doesnt have a good season?

we all know T.O is 33 and doesnt have much left and wants to stock pile as much receptions and stats in his profile as he can before he begins to suck or retires.

cuz you know T.O has said even after that incident he wont keep his mouth closed and will speak what is in his mind...

I think T.O. will stay out of trouble this time. Bill Parcells has handled personalities before... like Keshawn Johnson and Lawerence Taylor.... he did pretty well with both of them. T.O. realizes this is the end of his career and he wants to make money... he knows that if he gets thrown off another team that no one else will sign him so he pretty much has to stay in line. I think T.O. will get his numbers if he comes to the Cowboys..... it would be a pretty dynamic offense.

[shs13]

hmm maybe him and terry glenn can cause some problems..and then jason witten to now only if j.jones can stay healthy..

[SeguinMatadors]

hmm maybe him and terry glenn can cause some problems..and then jason witten to now only if j.jones can stay healthy..

With the double teams T.O. would demand.... Jason Witten would have a career year. I sure hope J. Jones can stay healthy.... but if not.... Marion Barber looked pretty good. I think we have two good runningbacks.

[BHS03]

Haha, the Dallas CBS affiliate is KTVT-11..

[TexasRed6x]

With the double teams T.O. would demand.... Jason Witten would have a career year. I sure hope J. Jones can stay healthy.... but if not.... Marion Barber looked pretty good. I think we have two good runningbacks.
Yeah I think Witten and Glenn would benefit from TO getting double teams and it would open up one-on-one coverage to get them open more.

[Favpack]

TOTU - TO + Tuna = Something really smelly, but might end up being good for you.

We'll see.

[HUM398]

I dont know what eveyone is so scared of. Yes TO has posed major problems for teams in the past. BUT parcels hasnt been his coach. T.O will be benifical to the team. Plus T.O knows he is getting to old for the childish crap and that this is his last shot to play football. If he messes up then his out of football for good. a church flag football team wouldnt sign him if he messes this up.

[BigArab]

Lets face it...his former coaches were wusses when it came to dealing with him. Andy Reid was really hands off until the very end. Parcells will grab a hold of TO whenever, wherever, and smack some sense into him.

[jtk1519]

I dont know what eveyone is so scared of. Yes TO has posed major problems for teams in the past. BUT parcels hasnt been his coach. T.O will be benifical to the team. Plus T.O knows he is getting to old for the childish crap and that this is his last shot to play football. If he messes up then his out of football for good. a church flag football team wouldnt sign him if he messes this up.

I think what scares most people is that Andy Reid is regarded as one of the best coaches in football and Reid didn't stand a chance against the Cancer. Andy Reid had built a very strong team in Philly and the Cancer seemed like the final missing piece. What scares people is that despite all the talent on that team and the tremendous coaching staff they have, it only took the Cancer one offseason to completely destroy that team. It was eveident from the very beginning, before McNabb was injured, that the Cancer had ripped the heart out of that team and destroyed the franchise to the point where they had no hope for the season.

The Cowboys have a very good, bada** head coach that doesn't put up with a lot of crap, but I don't think Dallas is near as grounded and well coached from top to bottom as Philly was and you see what happened there. Dallas also doesn't have the team leaders like Philly has. I don't think there is as much glue keeping the pieces together in Dallas as there was in Philly. The Cancer could spread quicker in Big D.

[shs13]

I think what scares most people is that Andy Reid is regarded as one of the best coaches in football and Reid didn't stand a chance against the Cancer. Andy Reid had built a very strong team in Philly and the Cancer seemed like the final missing piece. What scares people is that despite all the talent on that team and the tremendous coaching staff they have, it only took the Cancer one offseason to completely destroy that team. It was eveident from the very beginning, before McNabb was injured, that the Cancer had ripped the heart out of that team and destroyed the franchise to the point where they had no hope for the season.

The Cowboys have a very good, bada** head coach that doesn't put up with a lot of crap, but I don't think Dallas is near as grounded and well coached from top to bottom as Philly was and you see what happened there. Dallas also doesn't have the team leaders like Philly has. I don't think there is as much glue keeping the pieces together in Dallas as there was in Philly. The Cancer could spread quicker in Big D.

everything that happened this season wasent all of TO'S fault..They had alot of injuries thats what made them have that bad record..Lito sheppard Donvan Westbrook pinkston and another one of there starters on defense i forgot his name tho..those injuries basiclly costed the season

[jtk1519]

everything that happened this season wasent all of TO'S fault..They had alot of injuries thats what made them have that bad record..Lito sheppard Donvan Westbrook pinkston and another one of there starters on defense i forgot his name tho..those injuries basiclly costed the season

Their season was over before week 1 and that team knew it.

[drgnbkr]

Parcells is a jerk..he & TO deserve each other...and Jerry Jones deserves the damage they will do...

[jtk1519]

ESPN and the Dallas Morning News are now reporting that the Cancer and Cowboys have reached a deal. May God have mercy on our souls.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2373488

[Daniel Agnew]

ESPN and the Dallas Morning News are now reporting that the Cancer and Cowboys have reached a deal. May God have mercy on our souls.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2373488


Oh man you're right here, those sons of b*****es.:mad:

[fballgirl22]

Quit the whining guys. The NFL is a business and as we all know businessman take calculated risk. TO is nothing more than a calculated risk. He WILL be productive and everyone then will fall back in love with the Cowboys. The Cowboys have had players with a heck of a lot more baggage than what TO brings to the table. **** charges as well as various drug charges against former players was more of a shame to the Cowboys than anything TO has done. Tuna will keep him in line. BTW why in the heck do they call Parcells Tuna? I have asked a lot of people and not a single one has ever known. Enlighten me boys.

[TexasRed6x]

ESPN and the Dallas Morning News are now reporting that the Cancer and Cowboys have reached a deal. May God have mercy on our souls.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2373488
Don't be so down on TO. Parcells may change his attitude. I hope he does and I hope TO plays the way he was playing before this whole contract situation started.

[jtk1519]

Don't be so down on TO. Parcells may change his attitude. I hope he does and I hope TO plays the way he was playing before this whole contract situation started.

I'm not holding my breath.

[TexasRed6x]

I'm not holding my breath.
Well don't.The decision on signing TO will probably end up backfiring.

[jtk1519]

Dallas has scheduled a press conference for 2:30 today.

[TexasRed6x]

Dallas has scheduled a press conference for 2:30 today.
Seeing TO in a Cowboy uniform will look pretty confusing.

[jtk1519]

Seeing TO in a Cowboy uniform will look pretty confusing.

I believe the phrase is "vomit inducing".

[thestud]

i still dont see how you can sign a guy that defiled your star:confused:

[TexasRed6x]

I believe the phrase is "vomit inducing".
True.

[GTown02]

I was against bringing TO here a few months ago just as every other Cowboys fan was. But for some reason, over the last few weeks, i've kinda been looking forward to them signing him. Hopefully Parcells can keep him in line, and the Cowboys can return to prominence like the early 90's.

[TexasRed6x]

I was against bringing TO here a few months ago just as every other Cowboys fan was. But for some reason, over the last few weeks, i've kinda been looking forward to them signing him. Hopefully Parcells can keep him in line, and the Cowboys can return to prominence like the early 90's.
Yeah I look forward to the receiving trio of Owens, Glenn, and Witten.

[GTown02]

Yeah I look forward to the receiving trio of Owens, Glenn, and Witten.
I wish we could have kept Keyshawn... He is a beast going over the middle. One of the best in the game at doing that.

[TexasRed6x]

I wish we could have kept Keyshawn... He is a beast going over the middle. One of the best in the game at doing that.
Yeah he was and the Cowboys are going to miss that presence going down the middle of the field next season.

[thestud]

I wish we could have kept Keyshawn... He is a beast going over the middle. One of the best in the game at doing that.

terrell is a beast all over the field, not just the middle. the guy is a freak of nature, i'll give him that

[TexasRed6x]

terrell is a beast all over the field, not just the middle. the guy is a freak of nature, i'll give him that
He is a good football player and a very good WR too.

[jtk1519]

The signing pissed me off enough to begin, but I'm now reading that the Cancer's new contract with the Boys could make the Cancer one of the highest paid WRs ever. :mad: :mad:

They actually gave this a**clown a three year deal. How in the name of all that is holy can you give this piece of sh** a three year. I know there are roster bonuses that Dallas can choose not to pick up after years 1 and 2, but still... it's the principal of the matter.

HUGE kudos to the Eagles organization for growing a massive pair and showing this cancerous tumor his place (out the doors). Props to them for standing up to the Cancer and his slick haired rat of an agent. Mad props to the Eagles for looking the Cancer straight in the eye and shooting him the bird.

F*** Jerry Jones and the Cowboys for allowing the Cancer to bend you over and make you his b****. Screw you guys for selling your souls for a guy that has proven time and time again that he will produce on the field while eating your heart out. F*** you cowards for being powerful enough to forces dozens of Arlington families out of their homes so you can build your ego-inflating monstrosity of a wh*** house while being too chicken sh** to avoid temptation and stand up to one aging sorry excuse for a human being.

Can you tell I'm upset? The only bright side is that I can thank the good Lord above that the Cowboys haven't been my team for a decade now. I would sooner root for the Redskins and their rat faced owner.

[Dawg Fan]

Never,and I mean NEVER liked Jerry Jones and this just proved to me that he doesn't give a damn about the Dallas Cowboys and their tradition. I don't give rats *** how good owens is, he showed his contempt for everything we stand for with that star incident. I guess its time to start replacing my Cowboys gear with Texans gear. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[KattTx]

Never,and I mean NEVER liked Jerry Jones and this just proved to me that he doesn't give a damn about the Dallas Cowboys and their tradition. I don't give rats *** how good owens is, he showed his contempt for everything we stand for with that star incident. I guess its time to start replacing my Cowboys gear with Texans gear.

I have a great Texans shirt that I have been saving for a rainy day. The clouds are gathering and it looks like rain..... :confused:

[SVite]

Never,and I mean NEVER liked Jerry Jones and this just proved to me that he doesn't give a damn about the Dallas Cowboys and their tradition. I don't give rats *** how good owens is, he showed his contempt for everything we stand for with that star incident. I guess its time to start replacing my Cowboys gear with Texans gear. :mad: :mad: :mad:


See ya,what a fan!:rolleyes:

[SeguinMatadors]

See ya,what a fan!:rolleyes:

No kidding... what a joke of a fan he was. Cowboys do NOT need fans like him... no team does.

[Dawg Fan]

No kidding... what a joke of a fan he was. Cowboys do NOT need fans like him... no team does.

I have been watching the Cowboys since before you were born. I have been an avid Cowboys fan since the mid 60's. I have earned the right to be pissed off about them signing owens whether you believe it or not. I just hope he doesn't tear apart the Cowboys like he did to philly.

Just for the record I have had dinner at Bob Lilly's house (do you know who that is?) I have met Roger Staubach and got his autograph. Of course thats when the Cowboys were a class outfit. The day Jones hired Switzer the class that was associated with the Cowboys started to fade away.

One more question for you guys who feel you can judge others so well. Have you EVER been upset and said something that you probably didn't mean? You are very quick to judge without knowing any facts.

[jtk1519]

Screw 'em Dawg. There comes a point in time when you have to ask yourself why you are a fan of a team. Support, like trust, can be abused to the point where you no longer feel like giving it, and nobody has the right to question your motives.

True fans support a team through the good times and the bad. They don't shove their head in the sand and wait to get screwed over time and time again.

[LoneRocket]

Hopefully they will give him a contract that will punish him if he does not act like a team player.

[Dawg Fan]

Screw 'em Dawg. There comes a point in time when you have to ask yourself why you are a fan of a team. Support, like trust, can be abused to the point where you no longer feel like giving it, and nobody has the right to question your motives.

True fans support a team through the good times and the bad. They don't shove their head in the sand and wait to get screwed over time and time again.


Word!

[SeguinMatadors]

I have been watching the Cowboys since before you were born. I have been an avid Cowboys fan since the mid 60's. I have earned the right to be pissed off about them signing owens whether you believe it or not. I just hope he doesn't tear apart the Cowboys like he did to philly.

Just for the record I have had dinner at Bob Lilly's house (do you know who that is?) I have met Roger Staubach and got his autograph. Of course thats when the Cowboys were a class outfit. The day Jones hired Switzer the class that was associated with the Cowboys started to fade away.

One more question for you guys who feel you can judge others so well. Have you EVER been upset and said something that you probably didn't mean? You are very quick to judge without knowing any facts.

I know we all say things that we don't mean when we are upset... but disowning your team is bandwagonish... and fairweatherish.... nobody likes or wants those types of fans and those fans are the scum of the sporting world... that is why I would never dis-own my team... even if something didn't go my way and I didn't mean it.... people will question your character as a fan... and they have the right to. For the record, I believe you.

[SeguinMatadors]

Screw 'em Dawg. There comes a point in time when you have to ask yourself why you are a fan of a team. Support, like trust, can be abused to the point where you no longer feel like giving it, and nobody has the right to question your motives.

True fans support a team through the good times and the bad. They don't shove their head in the sand and wait to get screwed over time and time again.


Dude, it is sports... stop acting like Jerry Jones screwed your wife. He owes you nothing more than what he gives you... he trys to win and add the peices to do so. I love Jerry Jones because he TRYS and that is all I ask. We don't want you as a fan anyways sir bandwagon.

[jtk1519]

We don't want you as a fan anyways sir bandwagon.

If you had even a remote sense of reading comprehension, you would know that Dallas is not my team and hasn't been for years. Hell, I said that in this very thread. Is reading really that hard?

This thread and my disgust would have been directed at any team that gave the Cancer another chance. It just sickens me a little more to know that he will be playing for my childhood team. Of course, my childhood team is nothing more than history now days. What is left now is an organization that isn't worth the $30 you pay to park to watch one of their games.

[SeguinMatadors]

If you had even a remote sense of reading comprehension, you would know that Dallas is not my team and hasn't been for years. Hell, I said that in this very thread. Is reading really that hard?

This thread and my disgust would have been directed at any team that gave the Cancer another chance. It just sickens me a little more to know that he will be playing for my childhood team. Of course, my childhood team is nothing more than history now days. What is left now is an organization that isn't worth the $30 you pay to park to watch one of their games.

Yes, I did read that doofus... you said you jumped off the bandwagon roughly 10 years ago... right around the time of our decline... I am glad you aren't a fan bandwagoner.

[jtk1519]

Yes, I did read that doofus... you said you jumped off the bandwagon roughly 10 years ago... right around the time of our decline... I am glad you aren't a fan bandwagoner.

Or maybe around the time my hometown team came into existence. Duh. :rolleyes:

BTW, I'm sorry I was blasting your employer like that. I had no idea you worked for the Dallas Cowboys.

[TechGuy07]

I'm personally excited about it. My family jumped off the star a while back but I've stayed around...even through the rough years and I want to see another 13-3, 14-2, 15-1, etc regular season. It's about time the the 'Boys got back aroun d to winning and I welcome any addition that brings them there, and yes I am definately old enough to remember "stargate" and I still welcome TO to the Cowboys!!!

[hoo2ers]

After what "BUCKS OWENS" did on the field at Texas Stadium and has done since, for the Cowboys to add him to their roster is kinda like letting the Japanese set up a Naval Base at Pearl Harbor.

At what point do you sell your pride and self respect for a "Win"?

The Cowboy legacy of America's Team was built by great men long before Jerry Jone$ was here. I am old school enough to not buy into the B.S. Jones peddles. I hope this deal blows right up in his re-done face and he holds steady as my 32nd favorite owner.

[Firebird]

Loyalites to pro teams are so questionable anyway. I mean, really, you have no relation to a pro team whatsoever, other than giving them money and then them taking it. I will still cheer for the Cowboys, but I am sickened by this. I am now convinced that Jerry Jones doesn't give a rat's a** about winning anything, all he wants is to get the Cowboys, and himself, talked about on the news.

[thestud]

what you support is a direct reflection of what you believe in and stand for, i too, like dawg and jtk, am disgusted and ridiculously pissed off at jerry jones and bill parcells, who i had respect for. as of right now i am still a die hard cowboys fan, but i'll be damned if im gona wear cowboys apparel in public, because by doing that i am asociating myself with the rat himself. that is why dawg has disowned the boys, he doesnt want to be associated with the kind of crap that is TO, he holds himself to a higher standard, whats wrong with that seguin?

[SeguinMatadors]

what you support is a direct reflection of what you believe in and stand for, i too, like dawg and jtk, am disgusted and ridiculously pissed off at jerry jones and bill parcells, who i had respect for. as of right now i am still a die hard cowboys fan, but i'll be damned if im gona wear cowboys apparel in public, because by doing that i am asociating myself with the rat himself. that is why dawg has disowned the boys, he doesnt want to be associated with the kind of crap that is TO, he holds himself to a higher standard, whats wrong with that seguin?

But he could be a Cowboy fan when Micheal Irvin and Nate Newton were drugging it up? What really has T.O. done besides tear apart our divisional rivals? Sure he is a showboat... who cares? Is it a bigger crime in this world to be a showboat than to be a drug dealer as Newton was or a addict as Irivin was? Who knows, Emmit and Troy may have commited adultry every weekend.WE do not know these people and we will not be held accountable for their actions... therefor to act as if they in anyway effect you as a person is downright pittiful.

Jerry Jones TRYS to put a competitive team out on the feild every year and I love him as an owner for that....

[TexasRed6x]

But he could be a Cowboy fan when Micheal Irvin and Nate Newton were drugging it up? What really has T.O. done besides tear apart our divisional rivals? Sure he is a showboat... who cares? Is it a bigger crime in this world to be a showboat than to be a drug dealer as Newton was or a addict as Irivin was? Who knows, Emmit and Troy may have commited adultry every weekend.WE do not know these people and we will not be held accountable for their actions... therefor to act as if they in anyway effect you as a person is downright pittiful.

Jerry Jones TRYS to put a competitive team out on the feild every year and I love him as an owner for that....
Yeah I agree. Jerry Jones tries to put a winning team together on the field but they just can't find a way to win.

[Firebird]

Jerry Jones TRYS to put a competitive team out on the feild every year and I love him as an owner for that....

That is BS, Seguin. Getting rid of one of the league's premier coaches, Johnson, and replacing him with Switzer was not a competitive move, it was a BS egotistical hire. Inserting his sorry tail on the sideline, rather than the luxury box is his BS ego. Signing TO, who has already left TWO playoff teams in utter ruin, is not going to make the 'Boys more competitve, all it does is draw lots of attention to Jones.

[SeguinMatadors]

That is BS, Seguin. Getting rid of one of the league's premier coaches, Johnson, and replacing him with Switzer was not a competitive move, it was a BS egotistical hire. Inserting his sorry tail on the sideline, rather than the luxury box is his BS ego. Signing TO, who has already left TWO playoff teams in utter ruin, is not going to make the 'Boys more competitve, all it does is draw lots of attention to Jones.

The Jimmy Johnson situation happened almost 15 years ago now... it is time to move on. Jimmy and Jerry clashed... who knows what happened behind closed doors... maybe it got to the point where they just couldn't get along and it had to happen.

TO was high risk high reward... we had no chance to win it before getting him and now we are one of the favorites... you are a fool if you do not think Jones is about winning.

[TexasRed6x]

The Jimmy Johnson situation happened almost 15 years ago now... it is time to move on. Jimmy and Jerry clashed... who knows what happened behind closed doors... maybe it got to the point where they just couldn't get along and it had to happen.

TO was high risk high reward... we had no chance to win it before getting him and now we are one of the favorites... you are a fool if you do not think Jones is about winning.
True Seguin. TO was a BIG risk but Jerry Jones would do anything to get his team on a winning reputation and the playoffs again and we may have a shot this year.

[thestud]

WE do not know these people and we will not be held accountable for their actions... therefor to act as if they in anyway effect you as a person is downright pittiful.


if someone says they like boy george's music, im gona think they're queer, because boy george is gay and i associate his music with gay. terrell owens is a thug, loudmouthed, overzealous airhead, therefore i may make the association that TO plays for the cowboys, you have on a cowboys shirt, by golly you support loudmouthed, overzealous thugs, heck you're probly one too.

[Firebird]

The Jimmy Johnson situation happened almost 15 years ago now... it is time to move on. Jimmy and Jerry clashed... who knows what happened behind closed doors... maybe it got to the point where they just couldn't get along and it had to happen.

TO was high risk high reward... we had no chance to win it before getting him and now we are one of the favorites... you are a fool if you do not think Jones is about winning.

You have got to be kidding me. No rational sports expert is going to go out and pick the Cowboys to win it all now that they signed TO. He has proved to be a cancer to every team he has ever been assoiciated with. At most, we will get one good year out of him until the BS takes over. TO can't help it, he has fallen in love with his own image and now can't shake it, because it is expected of him.

Jerry Jones IS about winning... but only if he can take all of the credit for it. Unfortunately, he would rather lose and be in charge than win and take a back seat to people who KNOW about winning football games in the NFL. For the past 15 years, every single major move by Jones, save possibly for the Parcells hire, has dug Dallas into a deeper hole. If he is about winning, he is woefully bad at actually doing it.

[jtk1519]

TO was high risk high reward... we had no chance to win it before getting him and now we are one of the favorites... you are a fool if you do not think Jones is about winning.

One of the favorites for what? Dallas isn't even one of the favorites for it's own division. Not with the moves Washington has made and not against a very solid Giants club that is only going to get better. The Cowboys are still a team with a bad O-line (might get better with some of the signings... time will tell), an inconsistent starting RB, an old QB that couldn't beat a rock in a foot race, a coaching staff that has run an offense so conservative it makes Sean Hannity look like a tree hugging hippy and a defense that has shown an inability to make stops down the stretch.

Sure, signing the Cancer may have made Dallas a little better, but Dallas hasn't improved near as much as Washington and they still aren't on the same level as New York. This isn't like when the Cancer signed with Philly who was already a powerhouse team with a proven record. The Cancer has signed with a team has fallen way behind in is just in a desperate attempt to get back.

Jerry Jones signing the Cancer isn't much different than Mark Cuban signing Dennis Rodman. It's all about publicity. Jerry's got his mediocre team in the national spotlight, and in the end, that's what he cares about. Winning will just be icing on the cake.

[Firebird]

One of the favorites for what? Dallas isn't even one of the favorites for it's own division. Not with the moves Washington has made and not against a very solid Giants club that is only going to get better. The Cowboys are still a team with a bad O-line (might get better with some of the signings... time will tell), an inconsistent starting RB, an old QB that couldn't beat a rock in a foot race, a coaching staff that has run an offense so conservative it makes Sean Hannity look like a tree hugging hippy and a defense that has shown an inability to make stops down the stretch.

Sure, signing the Cancer may have made Dallas a little better, but Dallas hasn't improved near as much as Washington and they still aren't on the same level as New York. This isn't like when the Cancer signed with Philly who was already a powerhouse team with a proven record. The Cancer has signed with a team has fallen way behind in is just in a desperate attempt to get back.

Jerry Jones signing the Cancer isn't much different than Mark Cuban signing Dennis Rodman. It's all about publicity. Jerry's got his mediocre team in the national spotlight, and in the end, that's what he cares about. Winning will just be icing on the cake.


Great minds think alike, jtk.

[Daniel Agnew]

No kidding... what a joke of a fan he was. Cowboys do NOT need fans like him... no team does.


Are you f****ing kidding me. Some of us fans have values & we will not sell our souls for that narcissistic son of a bi**h. I'm sorry but Jerry Jones is doing this just to get his name back on the papers & Owens will make this franchise a joke(like he did with his previous two), plus it's obvious that jackass Jones doesn't give a damn about the Cowboys tradition so f*** him.

I hope Donovan McNabb puts up 570+ on Dallas, I am out on that team.

[SeguinMatadors]

if someone says they like boy george's music, im gona think they're queer, because boy george is gay and i associate his music with gay. terrell owens is a thug, loudmouthed, overzealous airhead, therefore i may make the association that TO plays for the cowboys, you have on a cowboys shirt, by golly you support loudmouthed, overzealous thugs, heck you're probly one too.

TO is not a thug by what I consider a thug... a thug is a criminal. T.O. is a hard working FOOTBALL player who has never been in trouble with the law.

I will never buy wear a T.O. uni but I would never wear any uni because that is not my style. You are comparing apples and oranges when you compare an interest in Boy George and an interest in the Cowboys.... supporting the Cowboys is a support for a team.... supporting Boy George is support for 1. Players on teams come and go. A team has 53 members... any one who would make a generalization as " terrell owens is a thug, loudmouthed, overzealous airhead, therefore i may make the association that TO plays for the cowboys, you have on a cowboys shirt, by golly you support loudmouthed, overzealous thugs, heck you're probly one too" as you so idiotically assumed they would.... well, that person isn't worth your, my, or anyones time of day anyways.

[SeguinMatadors]

You have got to be kidding me. No rational sports expert is going to go out and pick the Cowboys to win it all now that they signed TO. He has proved to be a cancer to every team he has ever been assoiciated with. At most, we will get one good year out of him until the BS takes over. TO can't help it, he has fallen in love with his own image and now can't shake it, because it is expected of him.


Most rational sports experts believe that the Cowboys are a legitamite team with T.O. Most sports experts I have heard believe, as I do, that T.O. will be on his behavior for at least his initial year here in Dallas.... and that is all that matters here for this year. Dallas defense was young last year.... this year they will be more experienced and more talented. We make a couple additions to the offensive line and with T.O. as a threat on the outside everyone is better. Glenn and Witten are better because T.O. demands double teams. Julius Jones and Marion Barber are better because you can't put as many men in the box. Bledsoe is better because of all of this.... all of this being added to an 8 win team. If we can upgrade the O line... the offense has a chance to be dynamic. The defense will be better. The Cowboys have a chance to be really good.

[SeguinMatadors]

Are you f****ing kidding me. Some of us fans have values & we will not sell our souls for that narcissistic son of a bi**h. I'm sorry but Jerry Jones is doing this just to get his name back on the papers & Owens will make this franchise a joke(like he did with his previous two), plus it's obvious that jackass Jones doesn't give a damn about the Cowboys tradition so f*** him.

I hope Donovan McNabb puts up 570+ on Dallas, I am out on that team.

And you are a flaming idiot if you supported the Cowboys when they had Micheal Irvin... like most of you who are whining and bit**ing probably did. Let me just say, if you did, shut the hell up and stop being a hypocrite.

[jtk1519]

And you are a flaming idiot if you supported the Cowboys when they had Micheal Irvin... like most of you who are whining and bit**ing probably did. Let me just say, if you did, shut the hell up and stop being a hypocrite.

Apples and oranges. Irvin had a history of off the field issues. The Cancer has a history of single-handedly ripping teams apart. Even at his worst, there was far less risk involved with Irvin compared to the risk you take by just allowing the Cancer in your practice facility. That's the cold hard reality.

BTW, I agree that the Cancer will probably play nice for the first year. The problem is that Dallas is a long way away from being a contender. If the Cancer was the final piece to a very good, well established team, maybe I could understand his signing a little more, but that is not the case. All the Cancer is is a bandaid on one of about a dozen wounds.

[jtk1519]

BTW why in the heck do they call Parcells Tuna? I have asked a lot of people and not a single one has ever known. Enlighten me boys.

The teams in the story vary. Some say it came from when he was an assistant coach with New England and others say it came from when he was an assistant at Wake Forrest, but the story is still the same. A few players were trying to play a trick on Parcells. He caught wind of the prank and responded with, "Who do you think I am, Charlie Tuna?" (Charlie Tuna was the cartoon Tuna used in the Starkist Tuna commercials). The name kinda stuck.

[Dawg Fan]

Damn, I love this thread. Spirited debate on an explosive issue. Now thats what makes this forum fun. Seguin, you know I don't have any hard fellings for ya, I am just having some fun.;)

[fballgirl22]

Are you guys freaking kidding me? You act as if TO has done something unlawfully despicable. Were you guys this outraged wnen half the team was out snorting coke and patying with freaking strippers? He stood on the freaking star, big freakind deal, get over it and move on. I am so curious to see how many of you guys jump back on the bandwagon as fast as you have jumped off.

[TexasRed6x]

Are you guys freaking kidding me? You act as if TO has done something unlawfully despicable. Were you guys this outraged wnen half the team was out snorting coke and patying with freaking strippers? He stood on the freaking star, big freakind deal, get over it and move on. I am so curious to see how many of you guys jump back on the bandwagon as fast as you have jumped off.
I agree with you fballgirl22. I like TO alot and he is one of my favorite players to watch. These guys think that TO will bring his bad attitude to Dallas and do what he did to the Eagles to the Cowboys. I don't think that is going to happen. All TO wants to do is go out and play football and be the person that he is. I think that TO in Dallas is a great fit because they are now one of the favorites and they have a major receiving threat in Owens and Glenn.

[thestud]

I agree with you fballgirl22. I like TO alot and he is one of my favorite players to watch. These guys think that TO will bring his bad attitude to Dallas and do what he did to the Eagles to the Cowboys.

what ameks you think that? did TO call you and tell you so?

[TexasRed6x]

what ameks you think that? did TO call you and tell you so?
No. I think that TO will have a better attitude in Dallas because Parcells knows how to work with guys that have alter egos like Lawrence Taylor and Keyshawn Johnson.

[Slim-Rob]

ESPN and the Dallas Morning News are now reporting that the Cancer and Cowboys have reached a deal. May God have mercy on our souls.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2373488


NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
At least they got rid of Johnson before they signed him. Can you imagine TO and KJ on the same team?

[TexasRed6x]

NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
At least they got rid of Johnson before they signed him. Can you imagine TO and KJ on the same team?

If they were on the same team they would both want the ball and they would be fighting about who should get all the catches and other things.

[Texasfrog]

First and formost... Pro football is all about "BUSINESS" first, second and third. Make 100% no mistake about that. T. Owens is a business move like some of you say. Dallas just got more "exposure" and when it's all said and done. They got a really good player with a lot of baggage with him. Ya, he is a grenade with the pin removed but it's done and that's it. Business as usual.

If you want loyality, love and passion for the game of football. Stick to Junior High, High school and college football. If you want "business" football then it's the NFL for you.

PS. College football is pretty much 50-50 but I'll give it the shadow of a doubt because I love it. But, it's slowly becoming a bigtime business.

[SeguinMatadors]

Apples and oranges. Irvin had a history of off the field issues. The Cancer has a history of single-handedly ripping teams apart. Even at his worst, there was far less risk involved with Irvin compared to the risk you take by just allowing the Cancer in your practice facility. That's the cold hard reality.

BTW, I agree that the Cancer will probably play nice for the first year. The problem is that Dallas is a long way away from being a contender. If the Cancer was the final piece to a very good, well established team, maybe I could understand his signing a little more, but that is not the case. All the Cancer is is a bandaid on one of about a dozen wounds.

So you believe that football is bigger than the law? Would you take a rapist over a locker room problem, too? Geez, you guys have your priorities all screwed up. If anything, what Micheal Irvin and Nate Newton did were far worse than whant T.O. has done. Why? They were AGAINST THE LAW. Nate Newton was supplying drugs to God knows who... maybe kids. Micheal Irvin was a role model to many kids and using drugs... but I guess T.O. wanting to make money is far worse than that.Were you a fan of the Cowboys when they had Charles Haley, another locker room killer?

[SeguinMatadors]

Damn, I love this thread. Spirited debate on an explosive issue. Now thats what makes this forum fun. Seguin, you know I don't have any hard fellings for ya, I am just having some fun.;)

No biggie. It is all good.

[SeguinMatadors]

Are you guys freaking kidding me? You act as if TO has done something unlawfully despicable. Were you guys this outraged wnen half the team was out snorting coke and patying with freaking strippers? He stood on the freaking star, big freakind deal, get over it and move on. I am so curious to see how many of you guys jump back on the bandwagon as fast as you have jumped off.

Amen! Someone has some sense around here. You guys have got your priorities all screwed up if you believe what T.O. has done is worse than what your almighty great Cowboys of the past have done.

[Daniel Agnew]

And you are a flaming idiot if you supported the Cowboys when they had Micheal Irvin... like most of you who are whining and bit**ing probably did. Let me just say, if you did, shut the hell up and stop being a hypocrite.



Let's see here, like JTK said, apples & oranges. Irvin was not a cancer to the team & the drug thing he was hurting himself, the **** deal was a gold digger trying to cash in, now Nate Newton did this when he was done had he done that while he played then yeah you cut him(which Irvin would have been cut under Landry & Schramm) dealing is bad & I'm shocked he got out, but Owens is a narcissist, all those thugs Dallas had didn't tear the team apart like Owens did plus he was complaining about a 7 year 49 million dollar contract(give me that money damn), there's a nice message to kids whine like a little b**ch & you will get what you want.

At least Teague has showed some stones on this signing & blasted off on this deal.

On a personal note, no hard feelings between you & me, I think you got the deal that I can't stand TO.

Now on Irvin I hope he doesn't get in the Hall(he'll get in though, it will be when Emmitt is eligible but it will happen), we all have to face our mistakes. Plus I saw Irvin at an autograph deal in Midland & lost a lot of respect for him, I was real disappointed with how he presented himself(charged 30 bucks to get in this deal & he stays 2 to 5 minutes tops & acted like the Grand Bazeer).

[Reaganrattler07]

This should be fun.....

[Slim-Rob]

Let's see here, like JTK said, apples & oranges. Irvin was not a cancer to the team & the drug thing he was hurting himself, the **** deal was a gold digger trying to cash in, now Nate Newton did this when he was done had he done that while he played then yeah you cut him(which Irvin would have been cut under Landry & Schramm) dealing is bad & I'm shocked he got out, but Owens is a narcissist, all those thugs Dallas had didn't tear the team apart like Owens did plus he was complaining about a 7 year 49 million dollar contract(give me that money damn), there's a nice message to kids whine like a little b**ch & you will get what you want.

At least Teague has showed some stones on this signing & blasted off on this deal.

On a personal note, no hard feelings between you & me, I think you got the deal that I can't stand TO.

Now on Irvin I hope he doesn't get in the Hall(he'll get in though, it will be when Emmitt is eligible but it will happen), we all have to face our mistakes. Plus I saw Irvin at an autograph deal in Midland & lost a lot of respect for him, I was real disappointed with how he presented himself(charged 30 bucks to get in this deal & he stays 2 to 5 minutes tops & acted like the Grand Bazeer).

I figured Teague would. I will never forget when TO danced on the star. TEAGUE is the MAN.

[jtk1519]

So you believe that football is bigger than the law? Would you take a rapist over a locker room problem, too? Geez, you guys have your priorities all screwed up.

How in the blue hell did you possibly manufacture that statement out of everything I have said in this thread? Football is bigger than the law?!?! That is just so stupid and absurd that I really don't know how to respond.

[SeguinMatadors]

I figured Teague would. I will never forget when TO danced on the star. TEAGUE is the MAN.
Too bad that is the only time Teague ever hit anyone.

[SeguinMatadors]

How in the blue hell did you possibly manufacture that statement out of everything I have said in this thread? Football is bigger than the law?!?! That is just so stupid and absurd that I really don't know how to respond.

Easy. You are making it seem like T.O. being a bad teamate is worse than being a drug user or drug dealer.... pretty idiotic if you ask me.

[jtk1519]

Easy. You are making it seem like T.O. being a bad teamate is worse than being a drug user or drug dealer.... pretty idiotic if you ask me.

I'm sunned. How you are pulling this crap out of the air is beyond me. All I said is that Irvin and the Cancer are two completely different situations that do not compare well. And no… “idiotic” does not even begin to describe your line of thinking here.

[Reaganrattler07]

Easy. You are making it seem like T.O. being a bad teamate is worse than being a drug user or drug dealer.... pretty idiotic if you ask me.

Uh...Seguin, being a bad teammate is worse than pretty much all of that.

[SeguinMatadors]

I'm sunned. How you are pulling this crap out of the air is beyond me. All I said is that Irvin and the Cancer are two completely different situations that do not compare well. And no… “idiotic” does not even begin to describe your line of thinking here.

You and all your comrads are saying that it is above your characters to root for T.O. because he is what he is... a showboat and a loud mouth. However, it wasn't above you guys character to root for a Coke head?? See the corralation? Yeah. I know you said you weren't a Cowboys fan before this... but now you make it seem as if the signing of T.O. makes you hate the Cowboys. You, yourself, didn't havea problem rooting for Irvin, though.

[SeguinMatadors]

Uh...Seguin, being a bad teammate is worse than pretty much all of that.

Oh, okay... "kids you can go snort some lines... maybe shoot some heroin up... but if you ever go and disrespect your teamates.... I am going to whoop your ***" Geez, do you realize what you are saying??

[jtk1519]

You, yourself, didn't havea problem rooting for Irvin, though.

Where the f*** are you getting this crap?!?! Where did I say I rooted for Irvin? He was a helluva football player just like the Cancer and I can appreciate that from both of them, but Irvin was always the one of the "Big 3" that I didn't like. I never condoned Irvin's behavior, but that doesn't keep you from lumping me with others I guess. I guess you can go back to your dream world where you can just keep making sh** up.

[SeguinMatadors]

Where the f*** are you getting this crap?!?! Where did I say I rooted for Irvin? He was a helluva football player just like the Cancer and I can appreciate that from both of them, but Irvin was always the one of the "Big 3" that I didn't like. I never condoned Irvin's behavior, but that doesn't keep you from lumping me with others I guess. I guess you can go back to your dream world where you can just keep making sh** up.

Um, prior to you jumping the bandwagon, weren't you a Cowboys fan? Were you not still a Cowboys fan while Irvin was on the team?

[Reaganrattler07]

Oh, okay... "kids you can go snort some lines... maybe shoot some heroin up... but if you ever go and disrespect your teamates.... I am going to whoop your ***" Geez, do you realize what you are saying??

I wasn't talking about a role model. I was talking about winning games. While drugs are seriously detrimental to a team. There is nothing worse than a bad teammate. If you don't have good team chemistry, then you can't win. And you necessarily can't win with drug dealers either.....but team chemistry is by far the most important.

[Reaganrattler07]

Um, prior to you jumping the bandwagon, weren't you a Cowboys fan? Were you not still a Cowboys fan while Irvin was on the team?

Just cause you don't like a player doesn't mean you hate the team....

[Slim-Rob]

Too bad that is the only time Teague ever hit anyone.

...You're fighting a losing battle Seguin.

[SeguinMatadors]

Just cause you don't like a player doesn't mean you hate the team....

Exactly, which is why I don't get all of these fans jumping ship and disowning the team.

[jtk1519]

...You're fighting a losing battle Seguin.

He lost a long time ago. He's like arguing with a rock... a rock with a very vivid imagination.

[SeguinMatadors]

I wasn't talking about a role model. I was talking about winning games. While drugs are seriously detrimental to a team. There is nothing worse than a bad teammate. If you don't have good team chemistry, then you can't win. And you necessarily can't win with drug dealers either.....but team chemistry is by far the most important.

I know that... these guys are not jumping off the bandwagon and disowing the Cowboys because they think the Cowboys are going to be a worse team due to the accusation of Owens... they are jumping off because they refuse to root for a guy of his "character". I am simply pointing out that some of these guys refuse to root for T.O. or the Cowboys because he is a bad teamate and they don't root for guys like that but had no problem rooting for the Cowboys when they were the drug lords of the NFL. Go read some of the post of those "Cowboys fans" and I think you will get what I am saying.... I think AHSstud is one of those fans... go check it out.

[SeguinMatadors]

...You're fighting a losing battle Seguin.

Um, Teague was a terrible safety...

[Dawg Fan]

Um, Teague was a terrible safety...

I never was very impressed with him at safety but I will forever be a fan of his for his reaction to the star incident.

[Reaganrattler07]

Exactly, which is why I don't get all of these fans jumping ship and disowning the team.

I don't think JTK has jumped ship or disowned the Cowgirls....

[SeguinMatadors]

I never was very impressed with him at safety but I will forever be a fan of his for his reaction to the star incident.

Ditto.

[jtk1519]

I don't think JTK has jumped ship or disowned the Cowgirls....

I never disowned the Cowboys or jumped off their bandwagon, but I'm sure that won't stop Seguin from making stuff up. As I said, I grew up a Cowboys fan. My Dad and I spent many Sundays in the 80s at Texas Stadium watching the Boys play long before they won their Superbowls in the 90s. My Dad taught me to respect the man in the hat.

However, I am from Jacksonville and when they were given an expansion team about a decade ago, my loyalties had to shift to my hometown team. That's not to say that I started hating Dallas. I have continued to like and root for Dallas (just not against Jax).

This situation with the Cancer won't cause me to root against Dallas. In fact, I'm sure when the pads are on, part of me will still root for them. I will never root for the Cancer and I pray he never plays a down in Cowboys Silver and Blue. The bottom line is that the Cancer has left every team he has been with in shambles. I hope that doesn't happen to Dallas, but like I said earlier... I'm not holding my breath.

[Reaganrattler07]

I never disowned the Cowboys or jumped off their bandwagon, but I'm sure that won't stop Seguin from making stuff up. As I said, I grew up a Cowboys fan. My Dad and I spent many Sundays in the 80s at Texas Stadium watching the Boys play long before they won their Superbowls in the 90s. My Dad taught me to respect the man in the hat.

However, I am from Jacksonville and when they were given an expansion team about a decade ago, my loyalties had to shift to my hometown team. That's not to say that I started hating Dallas. I have continued to like and root for Dallas (just not against Jax).

This situation with the Cancer won't cause me to root against Dallas. In fact, I'm sure when the pads are on, part of me will still root for them. I will never root for the Cancer and I pray he never plays a down in Cowboys Silver and Blue. The bottom line is that the Cancer has left every team he has been with in shambles. I hope that doesn't happen to Dallas, but like I said earlier... I'm not holding my breath.

I understand where you're comming from, and I respect it greatly. Now, Washington has done some stupid things but that hasn't caused me to root against them either.....*cough* Deion *cough* Norv *cough* Spurrier *cough*.....

[Daniel Agnew]

Seguin you can bring up most of the thugs that have come up through Dallas(in fact I wasn't even born when some of them played just bring up 1980 & above then we'll argue that), but from what my parents & grandparents said Landry & Schramm cut guys like that who added up.

Plus on the TO crap that was happening last year Montana said it the best when they asked him what would have happened if Jerry Rice did to you what TO is doing to Donovan McNabb? Montana's response was "John Taylor would have caught over 200 passes". Man classic there.

[Slim-Rob]

Um, Teague was a terrible safety...

I was reffering to the whole Cowboy's thing.

[jtk1519]

I understand where you're comming from, and I respect it greatly. Now, Washington has done some stupid things but that hasn't caused me to root against them either.....*cough* Deion *cough* Norv *cough* Spurrier *cough*.....

My Mother was a HUGE Redskins fan when I was little. She went to high school (Abilene Cooper) with Terry Orr who was a RB at Cooper and Texas and went on to win a couple of Superbowl rings as a TE with the Skins. There were times when Sunday afternoons were not all that great. In fact, we eventually stopped going to Dallas games when Washington was visiting because it was a 2 and a half hour fight going to Irving followed by 2 and a half hours of one of them gloating and the other pissed. :D

The funny thing about the Cancer is that I don't have a problem with flamboyant, arrogant, loud football players. In fact, I was a HUGE Dieon Sanders fan when he came to Dallas. I still have a football that he and Troy Aikman signed and it's one of my prized possessions. I wasn't that big of a fan of Dieon’s "style", but he was one of the single greatest athletes I have ever seen. I loved watching that guy in pads and my jaw dropped every time he touched the ball.

It's not the attitude or mouth of the Cancer that bothers me. It's his selfish, destructive past and the shattered teams that he has left in his wake... his own teams. Good players are supposed to make a team better and making a team better goes beyond catching a lot of passes and catching a lot of TDs... Lord knows the Cancer can do that. Good players are supposed to stand against the destructive things that can tear a team apart... not be their source. That's why I found it hard to cheer for Michael Irvin and why I find it impossible to cheer for the Cancer.

[thestud]

but had no problem rooting for the Cowboys when they were the drug lords of the NFL. Go read some of the post of those "Cowboys fans" and I think you will get what I am saying.... I think AHSstud is one of those fans... go check it out.


micheal irvin retired in 1999, the kitchen was long gone before that, at that time i was 11 years old, so tell me how many 11 year olds you know that know what cocaine is, what **** is? had i been older and known what that was, i can guarandamntee you i wouldnt have been a cowboys fan then. need me to expound any further dipstick?

[SeguinMatadors]

micheal irvin retired in 1999, the kitchen was long gone before that, at that time i was 11 years old, so tell me how many 11 year olds you know that know what cocaine is, what **** is? had i been older and known what that was, i can guarandamntee you i wouldnt have been a cowboys fan then. need me to expound any further dipstick?

I was roughly the same age and understood the whole situation...

Well, good to know you aren't a Cowboys fan anymore. Have fun jumping on some other teams bandwagon... only to find out that they have someone who fails the a drug test... then you can jump on another... and continue the process until you have no teams left. I suggest you stop watching sports period because you will never find a team without players with issues.

[thestud]

two completely different things, or apples and oranges as you'd like to say seguin. their off the field issues have nothing to do with their team. its how they act in the locker room(pickin a fight with the team captain), repeatedly talking down about the heart and soul of the team donovan mcnabb, badmouthing his coach, constantly wanting to be in the public eye, and not for doing charity either. constantly being a distraction, its always me me me me ME. THAT is what i dont like about terrell owens, and by signing him the cowboys are saying they are ok with that kind of person, and i dont want to be associated with or give my time of day to that kind of people.
and ive always been a closet buccaneers and titans fan, so now ive got more time to devote to watching them

[thestud]

[QUOTE=SeguinMatadors]I was roughly the same age and understood the whole situation... [QUOTE]

roughly? one more year and i probably would have known what all those things meant and understood the whole situation too, its called middle school. all the sheltered little kids grow up real fast and learn alot of new things about the nice, clean, friendly world

[Reaganrattler07]

My Mother was a HUGE Redskins fan when I was little. She went to high school (Abilene Cooper) with Terry Orr who was a RB at Cooper and Texas and went on to win a couple of Superbowl rings as a TE with the Skins. There were times when Sunday afternoons were not all that great. In fact, we eventually stopped going to Dallas games when Washington was visiting because it was a 2 and a half hour fight going to Irving followed by 2 and a half hours of one of them gloating and the other pissed. :D

The funny thing about the Cancer is that I don't have a problem with flamboyant, arrogant, loud football players. In fact, I was a HUGE Dieon Sanders fan when he came to Dallas. I still have a football that he and Troy Aikman signed and it's one of my prized possessions. I wasn't that big of a fan of Dieon’s "style", but he was one of the single greatest athletes I have ever seen. I loved watching that guy in pads and my jaw dropped every time he touched the ball.

It's not the attitude or mouth of the Cancer that bothers me. It's his selfish, destructive past and the shattered teams that he has left in his wake... his own teams. Good players are supposed to make a team better and making a team better goes beyond catching a lot of passes and catching a lot of TDs... Lord knows the Cancer can do that. Good players are supposed to stand against the destructive things that can tear a team apart... not be their source. That's why I found it hard to cheer for Michael Irvin and why I find it impossible to cheer for the Cancer.

When I was small, my dad, older brother and future godfather went to Houston watch the Skins-Oilers (Godfather is a huge Houston fan, Oilers and now Texans) And I think they were able to meet Orr.

Yeah, I agree I don't mind the flamboyantness of players. I just don't like people who don't get along or tear the team apart. Hence, Lavarenous Coles and Rod Gardner (boy am I glad to see them go).

[TexasRed6x]

When I was small, my dad, older brother and future godfather went to Houston watch the Skins-Oilers (Godfather is a huge Houston fan, Oilers and now Texans) And I think they were able to meet Orr.

Yeah, I agree I don't mind the flamboyantness of players. I just don't like people who don't get along or tear the team apart. Hence, Lavarenous Coles and Rod Gardner (boy am I glad to see them go).
Yeah Coles and Gardner really sucked and I am glad they are both gone too. I can't wait to see Moss, Lloyd and Randle-El together on the field next year.

[Daniel Agnew]

Yeah Coles and Gardner really sucked and I am glad they are both gone too. I can't wait to see Moss, Lloyd and Randle-El together on the field next year.


That will be a very good trio as well. If Campbell comes on they will have an excellent future.

[TexasRed6x]

That will be a very good trio as well. If Campbell comes on they will have an excellent future.
I really hope that they start Jason Campbell at QB this year. They need to give this guy a chance and they took him 17th overall in the draft and haven't used him yet.

[SeguinMatadors]

I really hope that they start Jason Campbell at QB this year. They need to give this guy a chance and they took him 17th overall in the draft and haven't used him yet.

I hope they start Brunell because I am a Cowboys fan and I want the Redskins to have a QB controversy and every other problem in the books.

[TexasRed6x]

I hope they start Brunell because I am a Cowboys fan and I want the Redskins to have a QB controversy and every other problem in the books.
I know that you are a Cowboys fan Seguin and yes I think that they will have QB controversy because they will start Brunell and he will screw up and the fans will start asking Gibbs to start Campbell in the middle of the season.

[Dawg Fan]

I hope they start Brunell because I am a Cowboys fan and I want the Redskins to have a QB controversy and every other problem in the books.

Gotta go with Seguin on this one:D