Cowboys beat Giants? WT*?

[Super B]

Kitna, Cowboys look deep to beat Giants (http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/12128/kitna-cowboys-look-deep-to-beat-giants)


The Dallas Cowboys (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/dal/dallas-cowboys) beat the New York Giants (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyg/new-york-giants) 33-20 Sunday night, avenging a 41-35 loss to the Giants in Week 7. Jason Garrett (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=509) wins his first game as head coach, the biggest road win ever posted by an NFL head coach immediately after a midseason coaching change, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

Coincidentally, Garrett matched the largest margin of victory immediately following a mid-season change since … Wade Phillips. The former Cowboys head coach made his NFL head-coaching debut by leading the Saints to a 29–3 win over the Rams 25 years ago after replacing his dad, Bum Phillips.

Here are a few things that made a difference in the game:

• The Cowboys took more shots down the field, throwing more than 20 yards downfield on 22.7 percent of their pass attempts. Prior to Sunday, the Cowboys had only thrown more than 20 yards downfield on 8.5 percent of pass attempts.

• The Cowboys ran three screen plays Sunday against the Giants, racking up 117 yards and a Felix Jones (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11256) touchdown. In their first eight games, the Cowboys picked up 138 yards on 23 screen attempts and no touchdowns.

In the teams’ first meeting of the season in Week 7, Dallas also ran three screen plays, but netted just seven yards.

• Eli Manning (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5526) was 4-for-4 with 3 touchdowns in the red zone against the Cowboys in Week 7, but on Sunday he struggled. Manning threw two interceptions in the red zone in Week 10 after throwing just one pick in his previous eight games.

[Super B]

Jerry is breathing a huge sigh of relief this morning.

[Favpack]

G-boys should have never knocked Tony out - bad ju-ju.

[SV61]

Kitna, Cowboys look deep to beat Giants (http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/12128/kitna-cowboys-look-deep-to-beat-giants)


The Dallas Cowboys (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/dal/dallas-cowboys) beat the New York Giants (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyg/new-york-giants) 33-20 Sunday night, avenging a 41-35 loss to the Giants in Week 7. Jason Garrett (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=509) wins his first game as head coach, the biggest road win ever posted by an NFL head coach immediately after a midseason coaching change, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

Coincidentally, Garrett matched the largest margin of victory immediately following a mid-season change since … Wade Phillips. The former Cowboys head coach made his NFL head-coaching debut by leading the Saints to a 29–3 win over the Rams 25 years ago after replacing his dad, Bum Phillips.

Here are a few things that made a difference in the game:

• The Cowboys took more shots down the field, throwing more than 20 yards downfield on 22.7 percent of their pass attempts. Prior to Sunday, the Cowboys had only thrown more than 20 yards downfield on 8.5 percent of pass attempts.

• The Cowboys ran three screen plays Sunday against the Giants, racking up 117 yards and a Felix Jones (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11256) touchdown. In their first eight games, the Cowboys picked up 138 yards on 23 screen attempts and no touchdowns.

In the teams’ first meeting of the season in Week 7, Dallas also ran three screen plays, but netted just seven yards.

• Eli Manning (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5526) was 4-for-4 with 3 touchdowns in the red zone against the Cowboys in Week 7, but on Sunday he struggled. Manning threw two interceptions in the red zone in Week 10 after throwing just one pick in his previous eight games.

Isn't just amazing, how other things open up (screens, passes downfield, etc), when the running game has ANY sort of success? The defense also, wasn't half bad, with SOME semblance of Offense to help take SOME pressure off.

[SLC93]

Isn't just amazing, how other things open up (screens, passes downfield, etc), when the running game has ANY sort of success? The defense also, wasn't half bad, with SOME semblance of Offense to help take SOME pressure off.

I dont disagree but let's be honest here. The difference is the offense making some plays and the defense creating some turnovers. Dallas still gave up 500 yards of offense but they made a play when they needed to. That hasn't been the case for 6 weeks or so. They created turnovers yesterday and that hasn't been the case all season.

We were also lucky to catch a team that is as beat up on the oline as were are on the dline, imo. Not sure this same performance will win us many more games outside of Detroit and Arizona.

[CCCSportsFan]

Did not see this win coming. I expect the Cowboys to play harder and with more focus under Garret, but pulling out a win out in the Giants new house was a nice surprise :yes:

[Super B]

I dont disagree but let's be honest here. The difference is the offense making some plays and the defense creating some turnovers. Dallas still gave up 500 yards of offense but they made a play when they needed to. That hasn't been the case for 6 weeks or so. They created turnovers yesterday and that hasn't been the case all season.

We were also lucky to catch a team that is as beat up on the oline as were are on the dline, imo. Not sure this same performance will win us many more games outside of Detroit and Arizona.
The defense gave up a lot between the 20's, but their Red-Zone D was very good.

You may be right about the G-Men injuries on their lines, but you could tell a big difference in the Cowboys effort yesterday.

Also the Cowboys Offensive line played great for the most part. How many penalties did the offensive line have yesterday?

[BackNBlack87]

Text I sent my friend during the game:

In regards to the fumble Kitna had on the goal-line that he recovered

"McGee would have rolled into the endzone for a touchdown"

In regards to the pick that Eli threw for a pick 6

"McGee would have thrown the ball through the defender's body into his receivers hands"

In regards to the lights going out and turning back on

"McGee got tired of this **** and went and fixed the lights"

McGee is turning into Chuck Norris.

[SV61]

I dont disagree but let's be honest here. The difference is the offense making some plays and the defense creating some turnovers. Dallas still gave up 500 yards of offense but they made a play when they needed to. That hasn't been the case for 6 weeks or so. They created turnovers yesterday and that hasn't been the case all season.

We were also lucky to catch a team that is as beat up on the oline as were are on the dline, imo. Not sure this same performance will win us many more games outside of Detroit and Arizona.

They WERE lucky to catch the Giants, without Cowboy killer Smith. That was big. The Offensive line for the G-men was down as well. But, on the other side of that, Dallas had one of their D-lineman out, and both CBs were nicked up. This, at the half way mark of the season.

But, the Dallas Offense did more than they have in the last few weeks, to help the Dallas D. The O-line play, while not spectacular, was better by far, than it has been since early in the season. There is no denying that the Dallas defense gave up lots of yards. But, again, isn't it amazing how the defense can get better, just by the Dallas offense hangin on to the ball for a change??

On the other side of this argument, when is the last time, you saw this many dropped passes? While I am referencing the Giants in specific, there were a lot of dropped balls, throughout the league.

Surprisingly, Dallas receivers were catching everything thrown their way.

I was on the bandwagon to get Phillips outta there (as soon as Romo went down). I would have NEVER thought that Garrett was the guy to take the reins. Not gonna anoint him just yet, but man, did Dallas look like a different team yesterday. I thought that was the best they have looked all season, and that includes when Romo was there.

[SV61]

Text I sent my friend during the game:

In regards to the fumble Kitna had on the goal-line that he recovered

"McGee would have rolled into the endzone for a touchdown"

In regards to the pick that Eli threw for a pick 6

"McGee would have thrown the ball through the defender's body into his receivers hands"

In regards to the lights going out and turning back on

"McGee got tired of this **** and went and fixed the lights"

McGee is turning into Chuck Norris.

SO, is the dark afraid of McGee?

:D

[SLC93]

The defense gave up a lot between the 20's, but their Red-Zone D was very good.

- more than anything the turnovers are what saved them. 500 yards is 500 yards and surrendering that kind of yardage gets you beat more times than not. Having said that I think the defense will be better with Coach Pasqualoni calling the plays. His concepts don't put nearly as much pressure on the secondary and he's more apt to get creative with zone coverages. That will help alot.

You may be right about the G-Men injuries on their lines, but you could tell a big difference in the Cowboys effort yesterday.

Wouldn't argue that point at all. I'm just being honest. We were seriously depleted on the Dline. Two guys we signed on Wednesday played alot of snaps. It helped that the Giants were down 2 starters on their line.

Also the Cowboys Offensive line played great for the most part. How many penalties did the offensive line have yesterday?

I think Dallas only had 4-5. They played a fairly clean game.


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[BackNBlack87]

They WERE lucky to catch the Giants, without Cowboy killer Smith. That was big. The Offensive line for the G-men was down as well. But, on the other side of that, Dallas had one of their D-lineman out, and both CBs were nicked up. This, at the half way mark of the season.

But, the Dallas Offense did more than they have in the last few weeks, to help the Dallas D. The O-line play, while not spectacular, was better by far, than it has been since early in the season. There is no denying that the Dallas defense gave up lots of yards. But, again, isn't it amazing how the defense can get better, just by the Dallas offense hangin on to the ball for a change??

On the other side of this argument, when is the last time, you saw this many dropped passes? While I am referencing the Giants in specific, there were a lot of dropped balls, throughout the league.

Surprisingly, Dallas receivers were catching everything thrown their way.

I was on the bandwagon to get Phillips outta there (as soon as Romo went down). I would have NEVER thought that Garrett was the guy to take the reins. Not gonna anoint him just yet, but man, did Dallas look like a different team yesterday. I thought that was the best they have looked all season, and that includes when Romo was there.

Injuries are part of the game. Teams are lucky two years ago when Brady went down.

Shouldn't the Giants be lucky that they're lining up against John f'n Kitna and not Tony Romo?

[SLC93]

They WERE lucky to catch the Giants, without Cowboy killer Smith. That was big. The Offensive line for the G-men was down as well. But, on the other side of that, Dallas had one of their D-lineman out, and both CBs were nicked up. This, at the half way mark of the season.

- Smith being out was critical. With as shallow as this team is at cb I'm not sure we could have overcome NY having their full, 3 receiver set. As for the line, my point was with our injuries there it was nice to play a team with the same issue. That helped to offset any advantage NY may have had.

But, the Dallas Offense did more than they have in the last few weeks, to help the Dallas D. The O-line play, while not spectacular, was better by far, than it has been since early in the season. There is no denying that the Dallas defense gave up lots of yards. But, again, isn't it amazing how the defense can get better, just by the Dallas offense hangin on to the ball for a change??

- That Dallas was making plays was a God send for the defense. As poor as they have played the lack of TOP from the offense was the nail in their coffin. You can't leave a defense on the field for 35 miuntes a game. The 85 Bears would have struggles with that.

I was on the bandwagon to get Phillips outta there (as soon as Romo went down). I would have NEVER thought that Garrett was the guy to take the reins. Not gonna anoint him just yet, but man, did Dallas look like a different team yesterday. I thought that was the best they have looked all season, and that includes when Romo was there.


- Wade had to go. I was there,too. Garrett was the onyl logical choice as interim. Perhaps he'll prove me wrong but I see him as part of the problem, not the solution. They looked good, all things considered, and that is a positive for him. We'll see where it goes from here.

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[Dawg Fan]

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turnovers are part of the game and it was the defense that helped to create them.

[BackNBlack87]

SO, is the dark afraid of McGee?

:D

When Stephen McGee was a teenager, he once impregnated every nun in a convent tucked away in the Himalaya mountains. 9 months later, the nuns all gave birth to the 1972 Miami Dolphins, the only undefeated and untied team in NFL history

[mojotrain]

When Stephen McGee was a teenager, he once impregnated every nun in a convent tucked away in the Himalaya mountains. 9 months later, the nuns all gave birth to the 1972 Miami Dolphins, the only undefeated and untied team in NFL history:)

72 was a great year.

[Super B]

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Dude, you need to learn to use the quote function. I didn't say all that. :rofl:

The best thing about Sunday, was the Cowboys effort. 500 yards is 500 yards. Bottom line though, if the Cowboys hard played with that kind of heart all season, they would not have gone into this game 1-7. Let's just enjoy this and not nit-pick. We can nit-pick next week, when they barely beat an awful Lions team.

[SLC93]

Dude, you need to learn to use the quote function. I didn't say all that. :rofl:

The best thing about Sunday, was the Cowboys effort. 500 yards is 500 yards. Bottom line though, if the Cowboys hard played with that kind of heart all season, they would not have gone into this game 1-7. Let's just enjoy this and not nit-pick. We can nit-pick next week, when they barely beat an awful Lions team.

Dude, I know how to use the quote function. It's easier to counterpoint or respond to lengthy posts that way.:)

I'm not nit picking them. They effort was much better. They did what they did without 3 of their defensive lineman and with Newman and Jenkins on the bench for extended periods. That's impressive. If they can keep forcing turnovers the yards will very rarely matter. That's always been the rub with this group, though. For all the talent and production they can't force turnovers to save their lives. Pasqualoni will do so nice things with this group, imo.

Except for the fact that Stafford is out, Detroit has alot going for it. They have been in every gamethey've played, most of them being decided in the final minutes or overtime. Schwartz has really got them pointed in the right direction. Suh is not human.

[BackNBlack87]

Dude, you need to learn to use the quote function. I didn't say all that. :rofl:

The best thing about Sunday, was the Cowboys effort. 500 yards is 500 yards. Bottom line though, if the Cowboys hard played with that kind of heart all season, they would not have gone into this game 1-7. Let's just enjoy this and not nit-pick. We can nit-pick next week, when they barely beat an awful Lions team.

Coaching for Wade Phillips, not exactly awe inspiring...

fire crotch got them motivated and pretty much told them to man up... with the talent the Cowboys have, they could end up at 8-8 and 7-9.

[HomeofChampions'06]

Coaching for Wade Phillips, not exactly awe inspiring...

fire crotch got them motivated and pretty much told them to man up... with the talent the Cowboys have, they could end up at 8-8 and 7-9.

Completely agree! I bet the Cowboys end with 2-3 more wins than the Texans do this year!

[RocklandDragon]

"Jerry" was quite pleased with last Sunday's game. Even more excited with the power issues at New Meadowlands stadium.

http://www.theunticket.com/fake-jerry-and-fake-wade-dallas-beats-the-giants/

:rofl: :yes:

[Super B]

I love the Marconi award winning Ticket! :rofl:

[HomeofChampions'06]

"Jerry" was quite pleased with last Sunday's game. Even more excited with the power issues at New Meadowlands stadium.

http://www.theunticket.com/fake-jerry-and-fake-wade-dallas-beats-the-giants/

"Their problem is they used union workers where as we used workers who weren't even born in the union."

"I ate a dresser and drawers once with a bucket of ranch dressing."

:rofl:

[E-Vol-ution]

Injuries are part of the game. Teams are lucky two years ago when Brady went down.

Shouldn't the Giants be lucky that they're lining up against John f'n Kitna and not Tony Romo?


Uh......the Giants are the guys who knocked Romo out of it.
Take it as it is, a much needed win for the Boys and a game the Giants thought they'd walk through.

[BackNBlack87]

Uh......the Giants are the guys who knocked Romo out of it.
Take it as it is, a much needed win for the Boys and a game the Giants thought they'd walk through.

......Stephen McGee can slam a revolving door