Tyler Lee's projected record going into the playoffs

[RidgePride]

I will predict an 8-2 record for REL going into the playoffs.

The way I see it, they have 5 really tough games.
They will lose at least two IMO - I just would not predict who.


Hollywood,Fla. Chaminade Madonna
Waco High
Cincinnati, Oh.Colerain HS
Euless Trinity
Longview

[LeanderLions3033]

Trinity and Longview....

Not that its that big of a shocker but you heard it here first

[Red Raiders]

I would say 9-1 or 8-2 or 7-3 depending on Euless Trinity and Colerain. Tyler Lee can have a chance to beat Longview too.

[PackAttack2005]

District and playoff losses are all that matters for any team.

[Hornified64]

Trinity and Longview....

Not that its that big of a shocker but you heard it here first


Not too bad of a "prediction" there Leander.....

However....Lee hasn't lost a HOME game since the
2003 season when Longview came to Tyler and pulled
of a 1 point win....when Lee failed on a 2pt. conversion
try.

BOTH of your game picks will be at Tyler's TMF Rose Stadium.

I'll say that Lee will have a tough time with either one at home
but IF one does win in Tyler it will be Longview.

I'll "hold off" on making my prediction for a few days to think about
the overall matchups that have been listed...plus the others on the
REL schedule.

[myround0]

Tyler Lee goes 15-1 and becomes division 1 champs and number two ranked team nation wide. Longview goes 16-0 division 11 champs and finishes national champs. 12-5A will hold two state champs and the top two spots in the nation. I might have it in the wrong order but I am a Longview Lobos so I choose to post it like this way.

[Jtate862003]

i dunno how he considers waco high a tough game.....

[LeanderLions3033]

However....Lee hasn't lost a HOME game since the

Man, i wasnt aware of that. I also wasnt aware of the fact that both of these games were at home lol. Thats why i live in Austin and need to do my research on these things before i chime in. I was just callin it like i saw it, with the teams you put in front of me.

[a&m consolidated1]

yall be for real,longview is not going 16-0 with out the great receiver of malcolm kelly, he was just as much of the team as vondrell mcgee if not more,theyll go respectively 13-3

[LoboFan07]

Lee definately has a chance to go to 10-0 for sure...But at the moment every team does. Do I think they'll go 10-0? no...But its not out the question

Obviously I think the Longview/Tyler Lee game will once again decide the winner of District 12-5A even though I think North Mesquite might make a move to change that. And obviously I think we're going to beat them.

Tyler Lee no doubt is tough at home but Ok so they havent lost at home since the 2003 season at Rose. They've played 8 games there since then...

John Tyler (1-9) (considered away game though) 35-6 Win (03)
Garland Naaman Forest (8-3) 57-24 Win (03) |Playoffs|
Waco (7-4) 35-14 Win
Rockwall (3-7 With a Forfeit Win) 41-7 Win
North Mesquite (6-4) 37-6 Win
John Tyler (2-8) 44-13 Win
Mesquite (6-7) 44-13 Win
Garland (8-3) 28-10 Win |Playoffs|

So in those teams they were a combined 41-45. Not trying to say anything but only losing one game since then isnt something to go crazy over.

Since 2001, Longview is 17-3 at Lobo Stadium. Only losing to obviously Lufkin twice of those games and then Tyler Lee being the other in 2003.
Since 2002, Tyler Lee is 15-2 at Rose Stadium. Losing to Longview in 2003 and A&M Consolidated in 2002.

Dont have the record for the 01 season for Lee but obviously 2001 was the worse year of the 4 for both teams.

I think Lee and Longview will battle it out till the final second just like in 2003 and just like in 2004. Its going to be whoever doesnt make the mistakes thats going to win the game. Should be a barn burner! Cant wait!

yall be for real,longview is not going 16-0 with out the great receiver of malcolm kelly, he was just as much of the team as vondrell mcgee if not more,theyll go respectively 13-3

I find it funny that people say that since Kelly is gone we wont be as good of team as we were last year. Sure we have to work on our passing game but its much better than a lot of people think. But if you look at Kelly's stats...he wasnt near the impact that he was in 2002. Kelly was a great player no doubt. He deserves to head to Oklahoma but he wasnt a if he has a bad game we'll lose guy last season. He sure helped us but he wasnt the team like Vondrell was

[supercentex]

Tyler Lee comes to Waco to play the Lions.

Lee has never won in Waco......and it will be tough for them again this year.

The last 2 years Waco has been pretty down..........this year and next will actually field a tough team.

[Red Raiders]

Tyler Lee comes to Waco to play the Lions.

Lee has never won in Waco......and it will be tough for them again this year.

The last 2 years Waco has been pretty down..........this year and next will actually field a tough team.

hmmm.... yea right.

[Mad Hatter]

if tyler is going to lose to anyone it woould probably be to the out of state teams... anyone know anything bout them ?

[LeanderLions3033]

I can't say that they will lose to the out of state teams, because i've never seen them play.

If your longview, i don't care how you got there, how can you really go wrong with 13-3. That means you have played the maximum amount of games and are playing the state championship lol. That means you would have had to get past Lufkin, and i'm sure that would make most Lobo fans season. Hey, maybe he ment 7-3 in the regular season like Tyler Lee ;) , you never know.

[Trinityplayer]

I think that Lobofan07 is right. Malcolm Kelly was a great wide reciever but he didn't make or break the game. With the ground attack Longveiw has this year the pasing game will just have to keep the defense honest. Also mix that in with a great defense, Longview could be just as good or better than last year.

[concha]

if tyler is going to lose to anyone it woould probably be to the out of state teams... anyone know anything bout them ?

I have seen Hollywood Chaminade ranked #3 overall in Florida. They are a lower division private school. Despite their size they reportedly bring a very high talent level to the field. Their coach is the same who led another Florida team to consecutive wins over Dallas Carter a few years back.

Cincinnati Colerain is considered an Ohio Top 3 so far in the pre-season. They are the defending Ohio D1 champs and are coming off a dominating season. They lose alot of talent from last year (a D1A linebacker, their exceptional d-line, a D1A RB and their excellent option QB amongst others). However, they also return quite a bit. They will have 2 D1A linebackers to help their new d-line, a D1A running back and their o-line should be very, very good, led by one of the top o-line prospects in the nation. Their biggest question mark will be if they can get a good replacement at QB to run their option game. I believe they return about 12 starters from last year's team.

[Texasfrog]

if tyler is going to lose to anyone it woould probably be to the out of state teams... anyone know anything bout them ?
Even though I know I'll probably be "ATTACKED" I'll give it a try because I did see the 2004 Colerain vs Mckinley State Title game.

Colerain, Ohio runs the mid-line option for 99.9% of their offense. They have 8 starters (Starters from the 2004 State Championship game) coming back from last years team. Again.. these are the kids that started in the Ohio State Title game that are returning :

1. WB - Kyle Lumpkin - (5-9/170)
2. RB - Terrence Sherrer - (5-10/190)
3. Ot - Conner Smith - (6-5/280)
4. Og- Eric Onella - (6-3/280)

5. DE- Calvin Dixon - (5-7/182)
6. Lb- Cobrani Mixon - (6-2/215)
7. Lb- Tyler Moeller - (6-0/195)
8. CB-Eugene Clifford - (6-2/180)

They also return a "K"-Matthew Schulte that kicks it to about the 10 yd line and is good on FG at about 30 or less. I think he made a 30 yarder in the State Championship game and missed like a 28 yard FG attempt badly..

The Colerain defense is a (3-4-4) look. They stack alot of people up in the box.. walking Safety's down for run-support...

It's going to be interesting to see how they adjust (IN MY OPINION) to a team that will have about 20 formations and use alot of Play-action, motion and some shifting to counter the defense that looks to bring alot of pressure on each play to stop the run... (in my opinion). :)

Of coarse Tyler Lee brings about 8 starters (kids that started games last year) back this season also. So, it looks interesting on paper.

QB- Preston Hill - (6-2/195) - D1A athlete
RB- Jason Williams - (6-0/205) - D1A athlete
Te- Tyler Fleet (JR) - (6-2/210) - future D1A athlete.
Wr- John Williams - (6-1/180) -
DT- Jacoby Mckenzie - (6-1/250) - D1A athlete
LB- Matt Uzzell - (6-0/200)
CB-Laquet Nicholls - (5-10/175) - probably a D1A athlete.
FS- Tek. Cuba (Jr) - (6-3/190) - National blue-chip in 2007.

plus, it sounds like the WR-Jacob Amie (6-2/210) is going to be a bigtime player. Tyler Lee will also have a few sleepers (seniors) like they always do that should step up and have very solid senior seasons in the program and maybe earn a D-1AA level scholarship.

Hollywood-Chaminade.. is a private school here in the Miami area. I live about 10 minutes from there school. They have a relatively small campus when you drive by it. You can tell they put alot into the athletic programs. I think most years they put about 3 to 4 kids into D-1A football. So, they will bring a team loaded with about 8 or so D-1A level players. With some of the skill kids they will have talent.. I think they may get hurt with overall Team Size, Depth and power. It should be interesting. With the lack of depth.. the Texas Heat may be a major factor in that game. The Texas heat is alot more brutal then the Miami heat. But, even though they are a Florida 2A.. many here consider them one of the top #5 Florida programs each year. They get alot of kids (athletes) from areas of Broward County and Dade County to come to the school.

[lonny23]

Waco is the weakest of the 5 teams you listed. I can guarantee that Lee won't go 15-1 since they'll play a max of 15 games. It's too early to say Lee is going to win state again. There are too many obstacles in their way in the playoffs to just assume they'll beat everybody.

[concha]

I'd say right now the Tyler Lee - Colerain matchup can be broken down like so at this point:


QB: Advantage REL. ....at this point since Colerain's QB is an unknown while REL looks to have a good one. Colerain has 2-3 very solid athletes to choose from and the two offenses use their QBs in vastly different ways. This could be a become tie or switch to Colerain, it just depends on how well the new Colerain QB takes to the option game.

RB: Advantage Colerain. This is their "business" given that they run the option. At least one of their RBs is D1A. REL's potential D1A RB looks like an excellent athlete and this is not meant to slight them at all - just a matter of numbers and emphasis.

O-line: Advantage Colerain. Three returning starters from the '04 title team, including one of the country's top prospects and at least one other D1A. REL will rely on new talent.

D-line: Advantage REL. Colerain an unknown, losing the big guns from last year. REL at least has McKenzie back as solid anchor.

LB: Advantage Colerain. Two Big 10 recruits for Colerain to back up the new d-line.

Receivers: Advantage REL. Colerain passes little - just enough to keep their opponent "honest" whereas the passing game should be a key to REL's offense.

D-backs: Advantage REL. Reportedly one of REL's stronger aspects with Cuba & co. Colerain should be solid also. Two of the three excellent athletes they are looking at for QB will end up here.

[supercentex]

Sounds like Colerain is trying to recruit some players for this season's squad.......are they worried or what?

[RidgePride]

One thing Tyler may have going against them is that Colerain was for certain Ohio's best team last year.

Tyler Lee was arguably Texas 5th or 6th best team last year.

For sure behind
SLC
Lufkin
Longview

Arguably these teams were as good as REL

Smithson Valley - Denton Ryan - Katy - Abilene - Irving Mac


Colerain returns more starters from that #1 team than Tyler Lee's 5th or 6th best in TX.

I also worry about the Florida school because anytime a private school is involved, it skews everything in my opinion.
They get the best talent from around the entire area, Whereas Tyler just gets the home grown talent.

I think it is Stupid to mix the Two (Private and Public)

[Texasfrog]

I'd say right now the Tyler Lee - Colerain matchup can be broken down like so at this point:


QB: Advantage REL. ....at this point since Colerain's QB is an unknown while REL looks to have a good one. Colerain has 2-3 very solid athletes to choose from and the two offenses use their QBs in vastly different ways. This could be a become tie or switch to Colerain, it just depends on how well the new Colerain QB takes to the option game.

RB: Advantage Colerain. This is their "business" given that they run the option. At least one of their RBs is D1A. REL's potential D1A RB looks like an excellent athlete and this is not meant to slight them at all - just a matter of numbers and emphasis.

O-line: Advantage Colerain. Three returning starters from the '04 title team, including one of the country's top prospects and at least one other D1A. REL will rely on new talent.

D-line: Advantage REL. Colerain an unknown, losing the big guns from last year. REL at least has McKenzie back as solid anchor.

LB: Advantage Colerain. Two Big 10 recruits for Colerain to back up the new d-line.

Receivers: Advantage REL. Colerain passes little - just enough to keep their opponent "honest" whereas the passing game should be a key to REL's offense.

D-backs: Advantage REL. Reportedly one of REL's stronger aspects with Cuba & co. Colerain should be solid also. Two of the three excellent athletes they are looking at for QB will end up here.

Whose the third returning "starting OL" for Colerain ??? I know they have two ( Ot-Conner Smith & Og-Eric Ornella) but who is this mystery third returing starter ? He didnt start or play in the State Title game against Mckinley .. I'll tell ya that.

Starters:

Te-Jeremy Hartmann - Sr
OL-Bradley Zoz - Sr
OL-Vince Forcellini - Sr
OL-Bryan Shelton - Sr
OL- Conner Smith - Jr
OL- Eric Ornella - Jr

So.. who was the 3rd returning starter ? Just wondering.. Like I said.. He didnt play in the Ohio Title game at all unless it was on the very last series of the game or something like that.

[concha]

Sounds like Colerain is trying to recruit some players for this season's squad.......are they worried or what?

As I understand it, they may have one transfer and he is a kid who lives in their district. Should I be bringing up a certain lineman that REL is picking up? Cut the crap, Waco.

[concha]

Whose the third returning "starting OL" for Colerain ??? I know they have two ( Ot-Conner Smith & Og-Eric Ornella) but who is this mystery third returing starter ? He didnt start or play in the State Title game against Mckinley .. I'll tell ya that.

Starters:

Te-Jeremy Hartmann - Sr
OL-Bradley Zoz - Sr
OL-Vince Forcellini - Sr
OL-Bryan Shelton - Sr
OL- Conner Smith - Jr
OL- Eric Ornella - Jr

So.. who was the 3rd returning starter ? Just wondering.. Like I said.. He didnt play in the Ohio Title game at all unless it was on the very last series of the game or something like that.

I had heard three. Perhaps it is two or the third was simply a guy who got plenty of PT last year. Not really worth haggling about. If I see his name pop up on the Ohio site i frequent, I'll let you know.

BTW, dare I ask your "fair, unbiased and objective" view of my take on where advantages might exist for each team?

[Texasfrog]

RB: Advantage Colerain. This is their "business" given that they run the option. At least one of their RBs is D1A. REL's potential D1A RB looks like an excellent athlete and this is not meant to slight them at all - just a matter of numbers and emphasis

Not meaning to start stuff with ya Concha.. but sometimes you post stuff that really kills me. It's the way you word stuff.. Like.. Colerain RB- Terrence Sherrer (5-10/190/4.5) and his (65 car-746 yds) is a D-1A player..

But.. Jason Williams (6-0/205/4.5) and his (99 car -796 yds) is a potential D-1A recruit.
I can tell you without a doubt that Jason Williams (bar injury or something crazy) will be a D-1A player. He has the level of ability in him..

Right now , until they both actually sign.. I would say they are both POTENTIAL D-1A running-backs if anything.. :)

[concha]

RB: Advantage Colerain. This is their "business" given that they run the option. At least one of their RBs is D1A. REL's potential D1A RB looks like an excellent athlete and this is not meant to slight them at all - just a matter of numbers and emphasis

Not meaning to start stuff with ya Concha.. but sometimes you post stuff that really kills me. It's the way you word stuff.. Like.. Colerain RB- Terrence Sherrer (5-10/190/4.5) and his (65 car-746 yds) is a D-1A player..

But.. Jason Williams (6-0/205/4.5) and his (99 car -796 yds) is a potential D-1A recruit.
I can tell you without a doubt that Jason Williams (bar injury or something crazy) will be a D-1A player. He has the level of ability in him..

Right now , until they both actually sign.. I would say they are both POTENTIAL D-1A running-backs if anything.. :)

Sherrer has offers. As far as I know, Williams does not.

What kills you exactly? Accuracy?

[Colerain-Cards]

School Interest Level Offer?
Iowa Med Interest No
Purdue Med Interest No
Akron Low Interest Yes
Ball State Low Interest Yes
Cincinnati Low Interest No
Minnesota High Interest Yes


So far whats on the plate for Terrence Sherrer

[Colerain-Cards]

Jr. LB Michael Scheidt from Colerain started half the season for Mixon when he was hurt.

[Texasfrog]

I had heard three. Perhaps it is two or the third was simply a guy who got plenty of PT last year. Not really worth haggling about. If I see his name pop up on the Ohio site i frequent, I'll let you know.

BTW, dare I ask your "fair, unbiased and objective" view of my take on where advantages might exist for each team?

I always try to look at things objectively.. :D

First.. I only saw the Colerain in the 2004 Title game. I saw Tyler Lee in the 2004 Title Game and most of the Longview game (except about 2 series). However, I've seen about 10 Tyler Lee games over the last 5 years and at least two in person. How do I think things will stack up in that game. Considering that its GAME 3 in early September. Let's see...

QB: Tyler Lee.. Preston Hill is a proven player on a bigtime level. He will probably end up being a D-1A player at a mid-level college. His got good size (6-2/195) and good athlete with fast (4.6) or slightly faster.

Colerain: Unknown.. but running the Mid-line option usually takes a very gifted athlete to play QB to be very successful at it. IF Colerain new QB has happy feet and likes to quick pitch really fast it could be a long day. Plus, if he cant throw the ball at all.."Look out."

QB: Advantage Tyler Lee.. Proven experienced player.

RB: Toss up.. Just looking at it on the surface. I think both RB's are very similiar overall in ability (Sherrer & Williams). Plus.. QB- Preston Hill can run it with the best of them, his proven that... Both teams need to find that second RB to tote it 4 to 5 times during the game.

Running game: Toss up at best..

WR/TE: Tyler Lee.. John Williams (6-1/190) has made some clutch catches over the years for REL. Jacob Amie (6-2/195/ JR) should have a come out and year and make himself a D-1A athlete for 2006. TE-Tyler Fleet (6-2/210/4.7) (Coaches Son)is a very good TE that made some cluth catches as a 10th grader and made a nice cluth catch against Spring Westfield in the State Title game.

Colerain ??? Dont know. They lost their TE and they dont really throw the ball at all.

WR/TE: Advantage Tyler Lee

O-Line: Colerain.. They have two proven starters coming back. One is a sure D-1A (Conner Smith). Looks like Colerain will have a nice O-Line that probably will avearge (6-2/260).

REL: Unproven and Young. The only thing good about it is the kids grow up in the same system and have been coached. REL line will average about (6-2/260) also because they always do. They just have alot of good size kids at the school. Plus, it sounds like one of the young 10th graders is a future Blue-chip ( Trevious Jones 6-4/290) but his still a pup as a 10th grader.
*But considering Colerain D-line is going to be young and experienced it might be a NON-FACTOR.

O-Line Advantage.. Colerain with just experience level..

D-Line:

Tyler Lee has Jacoby Mckenzie (6-1/255) kid which should help shut down a area. DE-Tyler Owens (6-2/205) (Coaches Son) and two other DE's that will probably rotate that are (6-1/200) size kids.

Colerain has one kid : DL-Calvin Dixon (5-7/185) kid. Unless Colerain gets some help here it may hurt them.

DL Advantage: Tyler Lee.

Linebackers:

Colerain has two experienced LB's with ( Mixon and Moeller) that are both D-1A level players.

Tyler Lee has one experienced LB's (Uzzell) that started in the Title game. His probably not a D-1A level player. At best his probably a D-1AA or D-11 level player. Tyler Lee should be able to find a couple of solid LB's to step up.

LB: Advantage Colerain. ** But, if Colerain new D-line doesnt give them support it may hurt the LB's for Colerain. LB's are usually only as good as the beef eaters infront of them.

DB's: Tyler Lee has future National Blue-chip FS- T. Cuba (6-3/190/4.5) and probably D-1A CB- Laquent Nicholls (5-10/175/4.5). Plus, REL never hurts for athletics secondary type players.

Colerain has one returning starter with the DB-Eugene Clifford (6-2/180) kid. I dont know what else they have ?

DB's: Advantage Tyler Lee.

If Colerain has a weak D-line and inexperienced secondary it might be make problems for Colerain (even with 2 solid D-1A level LB's) on defense.

Tyler Lee biggest problem is going to be if Colerain can pound out 3 to 5 yards a pop and control the clock for a majority of the game and keep REL offense on the sideline.

The reason I say this is because I think REL is going to be able to score on Colerain looking at Colerain (D-line and Secondary).

Special teams: ????? both teams have unanswered questions there.

The games being played in Ohio. That will be a major advantage for Colerain with share Fan support and ect.. Comfort Zone.. No doubt that Tyler Lee will be outnumbered like 10-1 with fan support. That can be a major factor when you're talking about 15-17 year old kids. Somebody else put if perfect in a earlier post.. The Freakout factor is a great term.

Homefield: Colerain huge advantage.. I do like the fact that Tyler Lee is flying to the game.

Both teams are bringing about the same level of returning experience and ect to their teams when it's all said and done.

[concha]

I understand that o-lineman Brandon Wyatt started for at least some of the year as did Calvin Dixon on d-line.

[Texasfrog]

Sherrer has offers. As far as I know, Williams does not.

What kills you exactly? Accuracy?

Your sure Williams doenst have offers ??? Just because you dont see it on some recruiting site doesnt mean the kid doesnt have offers amigo. I can tell you that from first hand experience. Alot of kids have offers that arent labeled on Rivals, Scouts are ect. Dont be fooled by that.

I can promise you that Sherrer is no better a RB than Williams at all... That's accuracy..

[Texasfrog]

School Interest Level Offer?
Iowa Med Interest No
Purdue Med Interest No
Akron Low Interest Yes
Ball State Low Interest Yes
Cincinnati Low Interest No
Minnesota High Interest Yes


So far whats on the plate for Terrence Sherrer

Ok.. I guess we'll see what happens in the future. Something tell me that Jason Williams (6-0/205/4.5) and his 99 car-796 yds) doesnt take a backseat at all to Terrence Sherrer (5-10/190/4.5) and his (65 car-746 yds).

But, if you want to believe that Terrence Sherrer is better or something. Be my guest. ;)

[Texasfrog]

I understand that o-lineman Brandon Wyatt started for at least some of the year as did Calvin Dixon on d-line.

I didnt see Brandon Wyatt play in the Title game.. The D-lineman Calvin Dixon (5-7/185) did start in the Title game. His the returning starter on the D-line for Colerain.

Title game returning starters Defense: Sizes approxed..

Colerain:

DL- Calvin Dixon (5-7/185)
LB- Mixon (6-2/220)
LB- Moeller (6-1/205)
DB- Eugene Clifford (6-2/180)

Tyler Lee:

DL- Jacoby Mckenzie ( 6-1/255)
LB- Matt Uzzell (6-0/205)
CB- L. Nicholls (5-10/175)
FS- T. Cuba (6-3/190) National recruit 2006 season.

[concha]

I always try to look at things objectively.. :D

First.. I only saw the Colerain in the 2004 Title game. I saw Tyler Lee in the 2004 Title Game and most of the Longview game (except about 2 series). However, I've seen about 10 Tyler Lee games over the last 5 years and at least two in person. How do I think things will stack up in that game. Considering that its GAME 3 in early September. Let's see...

QB: Tyler Lee.. Preston Hill is a proven player on a bigtime level. He will probably end up being a D-1A player at a mid-level college. His got good size (6-2/195) and good athlete with fast (4.6) or slightly faster.

Colerain: Unknown.. but running the Mid-line option usually takes a very gifted athlete to play QB to be very successful at it. IF Colerain new QB has happy feet and likes to quick pitch really fast it could be a long day. Plus, if he cant throw the ball at all.."Look out."

QB: Advantage Tyler Lee.. Proven experienced player.

RB: Toss up.. Just looking at it on the surface. I think both RB's are very similiar overall in ability (Sherrer & Williams). Plus.. QB- Preston Hill can run it with the best of them, his proven that... Both teams need to find that second RB to tote it 4 to 5 times during the game.

Running game: Toss up at best..

WR/TE: Tyler Lee.. John Williams (6-1/190) has made some clutch catches over the years for REL. Jacob Amie (6-2/195/ JR) should have a come out and year and make himself a D-1A athlete for 2006. TE-Tyler Fleet (6-2/210/4.7) (Coaches Son)is a very good TE that made some cluth catches as a 10th grader and made a nice cluth catch against Spring Westfield in the State Title game.

Colerain ??? Dont know. They lost their TE and they dont really throw the ball at all.

WR/TE: Advantage Tyler Lee

O-Line: Colerain.. They have two proven starters coming back. One is a sure D-1A (Conner Smith). Looks like Colerain will have a nice O-Line that probably will avearge (6-2/260).

REL: Unproven and Young. The only thing good about it is the kids grow up in the same system and have been coached. REL line will average about (6-2/260) also because they always do. They just have alot of good size kids at the school. Plus, it sounds like one of the young 10th graders is a future Blue-chip ( Trevious Jones 6-4/290) but his still a pup as a 10th grader.
*But considering Colerain D-line is going to be young and experienced it might be a NON-FACTOR.

O-Line Advantage.. Colerain with just experience level..

D-Line:

Tyler Lee has Jacoby Mckenzie (6-1/255) kid which should help shut down a area. DE-Tyler Owens (6-2/205) (Coaches Son) and two other DE's that will probably rotate that are (6-1/200) size kids.

Colerain has one kid : DL-Calvin Dixon (5-7/185) kid. Unless Colerain gets some help here it may hurt them.

DL Advantage: Tyler Lee.

Linebackers:

Colerain has two experienced LB's with ( Mixon and Moeller) that are both D-1A level players.

Tyler Lee has one experienced LB's (Uzzell) that started in the Title game. His probably not a D-1A level player. At best his probably a D-1AA or D-11 level player. Tyler Lee should be able to find a couple of solid LB's to step up.

LB: Advantage Colerain. ** But, if Colerain new D-line doesnt give them support it may hurt the LB's for Colerain. LB's are usually only as good as the beef eaters infront of them.

DB's: Tyler Lee has future National Blue-chip FS- T. Cuba (6-3/190/4.5) and probably D-1A CB- Laquent Nicholls (5-10/175/4.5). Plus, REL never hurts for athletics secondary type players.

Colerain has one returning starter with the DB-Eugene Clifford (6-2/180) kid. I dont know what else they have ?

DB's: Advantage Tyler Lee.

If Colerain has a weak D-line and inexperienced secondary it might be make problems for Colerain (even with 2 solid D-1A level LB's) on defense.

Tyler Lee biggest problem is going to be if Colerain can pound out 3 to 5 yards a pop and control the clock for a majority of the game and keep REL offense on the sideline.

The reason I say this is because I think REL is going to be able to score on Colerain looking at Colerain (D-line and Secondary).

Special teams: ????? both teams have unanswered questions there.

The games being played in Ohio. That will be a major advantage for Colerain with share Fan support and ect.. Comfort Zone.. No doubt that Tyler Lee will be outnumbered like 10-1 with fan support. That can be a major factor when you're talking about 15-17 year old kids. Somebody else put if perfect in a earlier post.. The Freakout factor is a great term.

Both teams are bringing about the same level of returning experience and ect to their teams when it's all said and done.


Colerain lives and dies by the run. They have one RB with D1A offers and the other averaged 9.9 yards per carry last year. They always have QBs that can run. But it's a toss-up? Even though Colerain's entire offense is engineered around a successful running game? Even though they run behind an o-line with 3 returning starters including two kids who already have D1A offers - one of whom is amongst the top OT prospects in the nation? Right, Frog. Okey-dokey.

As regards the defensive secondary, there are currently three solid contestants for QB. The two who don't get the nod will likely become (or remain) d-backs. Eugene Clifford, BTW, is considered by the Colerain fathful to be be arguably the best athlete they have - and that says alot. Colerain will have a respectable secondary. And lets not forget that Preston Hill will be working behind a new and unproven o-line with at least two Big 10-bound LBers after his head.

As regards the d-lines, I find it interesting that for Colerain it is a potential crisis area, even though they have at least one returning starter and will be backed up by two Big 10 bound LBers (and they are facing complete newbies). Yet on the other hand, this one Mckenzie kid apparently trumps a National Top 100 ranked recruit, another D1A and yet another returning starter.

On paper, the biggest mismatch appears to be Colerain's o-line facing an REL d-line and LBer corps with just one returner. BTW, you may be going by last year's numbers, but think you underestimate the size of Colerain's o-line. I believe Ornella is in the 280-290 range, Smith is 300 and Wyatt was 254 last year, so you can probably put him in the 260-270 range for his senior year campaign. Barring undersized kids at the other line positions, you're looking at 270-280 average at least.

[RidgePride]

On paper, the biggest mismatch appears to be Colerain's o-line facing an REL d-line and LBer corps with just one returner. BTW, you may be going by last year's numbers, but think you underestimate the size of Colerain's o-line. I believe Ornella is in the 280-290 range, Smith is 300 and Wyatt was 254 last year, so you can probably put him in the 260-270 range for his senior year campaign. Barring undersized kids at the other line positions, you're looking at 270-280 average at least.


At least REL is used to going up against a big Offensive line. I would bet that Euless Trinity has the biggest Lineman in the Nation on average.

[Texasfrog]

Colerain lives and dies by the run. They have one RB with D1A offers and the other averaged 9.9 yards per carry last year. They always have QBs that can run. But it's a toss-up? Even though Colerain's entire offense is engineered around a successful running game? Even though they run behind an o-line with 3 returning starters including two kids who already have D1A offers - one of whom is amongst the top OT prospects in the nation? Right, Frog. Okey-dokey.

As regards the defensive secondary, there are currently three solid contestants for QB. The two who don't get the nod will likely become (or remain) d-backs. Eugene Clifford, BTW, is considered by the Colerain fathful to be be arguably the best athlete they have - and that says alot. Colerain will have a respectable secondary. And lets not forget that Preston Hill will be working behind a new and unproven o-line with at least two Big 10-bound LBers after his head.

As regards the d-lines, I find it interesting that for Colerain it is a potential crisis area, even though they have at least one returning starter and will be backed up by two Big 10 bound LBers (and they are facing complete newbies). Yet on the other hand, this one Mckenzie kid apparently trumps a National Top 100 ranked recruit, another D1A and yet another returning starter.

On paper, the biggest mismatch appears to be Colerain's o-line facing an REL d-line and LBer corps with just one returner. BTW, you may be going by last year's numbers, but think you underestimate the size of Colerain's o-line. I believe Ornella is in the 280-290 range, Smith is 300 and Wyatt was 254 last year, so you can probably put him in the 260-270 range for his senior year campaign. Barring undersized kids at the other line positions, you're looking at 270-280 average at least.

Jesus Son.. you ask my opinion and I gave it to you.. OKEY DOKEY..!!!! If you're afraid you wont like the answer,,,,... dont ask the question ok SON.. Again, you dont like a post so you attack and put-down the messanger. Hmmm the trend continues with Concheeee world.

I gave you my observations and evaluations and thoughts on the game from seeing basically 1 3/4 Tyler Lee games from 2004 and 1 Colerain game from 2004.

Next.. when did I say "ONE KID". Go read Son. Again you have a major reading problem , flaw or I'll just call it "selective reading."

Jacoby Mckenzie (6-1/255), DE-Tyler Owens (6-2/205)"Coaches Son" and two other DE-Colby Wray and Rod Brown that are both in the (6-1/205) range. Hmmm.. looks like 4 kids to me "not one." Considering one of those kids is the coaches son it should help bring some leadership and stability to the area.

Next.. I'm totally sure that REL will have a few "beef eaters" kids step at the D-line position (6-0/240 range) that none of us are even aware of right now. I'm not in Tyler right now and the last time I talked to a coach in Tyler has been about 3 months. I know they have about 200 kids in the High school program so they'll find some kids with size and skill to play D-Line.

Tyler Lee's LB's.. dont worry. Tyler Lee always has some players step up and are able to play the position at a pretty high level (rather they are D-1A athletes) are not. They'll have some kids with size , skill and speed at that position. THEY ALWAYS DO.

See.. you say. Colerain has this O-lineman and that O-lineman and this and that and this O-lineman is rated this and that. If you say Colerain is going to average about 280... THAT'S GREAT !!!
If you say Colerain has 3 returning O-lineman-- That's GREAT. I can only tell you what I saw in the Ohio State Title game and from that game there is only two returning O-line starters (Smith & Ornelia). DID YOU SEE THE GAME ? Again... did you see the game ??? I'm starting to wonder. :confused:

First.. I hardly think that Tyler Lee is going to be sitting there on defense waiting for someone to come knock them down. Have you ever heard of "slanting, stunting, twisting or ect ?" Those REL kids arent going to be sitting there waiting for someone to knock them down....

Next... I'm not really worried about Tyler Lee not having a really experience O-line to be honest with you. They always seem to be able to reload at that position and play at a high level. They will also average somewhere in the (6-2/260) range. (OT-Trevious Jones 6-4/290 "future blue-chip", OG-Mario Trimble 6-3/290, Kirkpatrick 6-3/260, Te-Tyler Flett 6-2/210 (Coaches Son)) and a few other 6-2/270 average kids.. So, to be honest with you. I'm really not worried about Tyler Lee O-line. I know the level they play at and how well coached they are.

You make it sound like (Colerain has two Big-10 level LB's) so Tyler Lee is in trouble. Tyler Lee isnt going to be able to pass, run or do anything because Colerain has two Big-10 level LB's. Hmmmm,, OK.

What do they have around them ? If they dont get some solid D-line support and have some kids in the secondary that are used to playing the pass and still coming up for run support. Your 2 (Big-10 level LB's) might have a long night covering the whole field. So, we'll see....... :)

I'm not going to sat here and get in a pissing argument with you because you dont like the answer (when you ASK the question). I gave you my HONEST opinion.

Both teams have strength areas and so called weak areas ( of inexperience mostly).

I'm sure that Tyler Lee isnt taking Colerain lightly as they arent taking any of their 2005 opponents lightly. The coaches will have a game plan coming into the game. Mostly it will be to "Load up and stop the run". Like I said before.. if the new QB doesnt like to be hit it could be a long night because his going to be getting hit on every play. That's what you do to Mid-line option QB. Hit them, hit them, hit them.

I'm also sure that QB-Preston Hill, RB- Jason Williams, Wr- John Williams, Wr-jacob Amie, Te- Tyler Fleet and the Tyler Lee O-Line will be aware of the two Big-10 LB's on the Colerain defense.

I'm still cant get over how you ask me a question about my thoughts.. I give them to you (objectively) and you again as usuall attack and insult. OKEY DOKEY...

PS. (EDITED). before I'm called a liar or something. This is straight from Coach Owens mouth.. ,, "REL had 97 Varsity Players and 67 JV Players make it through the 18 days spring session of football." Somehow I think they will find about 35 solid varsity players that make up most of the 2-Deep. Dont worry about the size, speed or skill of 2005 Tyler Lee. They'll be a few players step up that we arent even talking about right now for Tyler Lee.. I can promise you that you wont be disappointed ok. I'm sure I wont be with the 2005 Colerain team either.

[Texasfrog]

At least REL is used to going up against a big Offensive line. I would bet that Euless Trinity has the biggest Lineman in the Nation on average.

I know.. the guy ask me my honestly opinion and I gave it to him and he still gets upset and attacks and insults. Even when you try to have a level headed post exchange he still just gets all upset if you dont "bow down to Colerain."

You're right.. Tyler Lee does pretty good with bigger O-lines (Euless Trinity, Spring Westfield, Garland, Mesquite, North Mesquite) all have had and will have very nice size O-lines with college level Lineman.... and Tyler Lee does well.

I still cant get over how someone can ask your opinion on something and then come after you when you give an honest answer or opinion. :confused:

[Texasfrog]

One thing Tyler may have going against them is that Colerain was for certain Ohio's best team last year.

Tyler Lee was arguably Texas 5th or 6th best team last year.

For sure behind
SLC
Lufkin
Longview

Arguably these teams were as good as REL

Smithson Valley - Denton Ryan - Katy - Abilene - Irving Mac


Colerain returns more starters from that #1 team than Tyler Lee's 5th or 6th best in TX.

I also worry about the Florida school because anytime a private school is involved, it skews everything in my opinion.
They get the best talent from around the entire area, Whereas Tyler just gets the home grown talent.

I think it is Stupid to mix the Two (Private and Public)

To be honest with Ridge. I'm not really worried that much about Hollywood-Chaminade. I think athlete for athlete Tyler Lee will match-up evenly. The big difference will be with Tyler Lee's size and depth. It will show late in the first half and mostly in the second half.

Also.. The Texas "heat" will hurt the Miami team. I live here in Miami now and I can tell you firsthand that there is a big difference in the East Texas heat and the Miami heat in late August. Texas heat is like an Oven with humidity.. Miami heat get's in the 90's but it's not as oppresive and it doesnt have the humidity level. There is always an Atlantic breeze that pushes out alot of the "oven heat" and "humidity".

[bleedgreen]

Tyler Lee will win that game--end of story.......as for the Longview game, it's a toss-up-----whoever wants it more on that given night. doesn't make a crap if it's at Rose or Lobo stadium....both teams have won on each other's home fields......of course, the Rose Stadium refs do tend to wear "rose-colored" glasses, if you know what i mean???????? ;) ;)

[concha]

Frog,
You could fertilize Texas for generations with just one day's worth of what you post.

How can you claim that I want everyone to "bow down" to Colerain when in my own analysis I gave REL an apparent advantage in MORE categories than Colerain? Explain that one, Sparky.

Let's look at a Frog analysis:

1) Colerain has 3 returners on the o-line. One is a National Top 100 recruit. Another already has D1A offers. They are facing an REL d-line and LB corps with just one returning starter (albeit a good one). Colerain gets the nod "just with experience level" according to Frog. How generous and objective. Not.

2) A totally brand new REL o-line faces a mostly new Colerain d-line backed up by two veteran Big 10 bound linebackers (at least 3 returning starters in total), yet our pal Froggy keys in on one thing - the "new"(ish) Colerain d-line. Colerain might "need help" and make the TOTAL newness of the REL o-line a "non-factor". Huh? In the box we've got 3 vets, 2 of them big-time D1As but it isn't REL that needs to worry? There's objective analysis for you.

[concha]

Frog,
Why do you reply to Ridge like he was commenting on me attacking you? That just looked silly. You're replying to...nothing he mentioned. Weird.

[Texasfrog]

Frog,
Why do you reply to Ridge like he was commenting on me attacking you? That just looked silly. You're replying to...nothing he mentioned. Weird.

Whatever Clown.... You going into a tirade "AGAIN" because you ask a "ME" a question and I give you my "HONEST" answer.. What do you do "ONCE AGAIN ?" Go into a tirade about Colerain this and Colerain that and Colerain has (2 D-1A LB's) and their (OL) is one of the best in the nation. Blah, blah , blah, blah, blah.. same Oh same oh from Concheee.

I'm loving the fact that you think the only kid on Tyler Lee's d-line is the Jacoby Mckenzie (6-1/255) kid. I think you're going to be in for the surprise with your under-estimating when its all said and done.

Have a nice night Mr. Tirade.

Oh, I almost forgot. Did you see the 2004 Colerain vs Mckinley game ? I'm having some doubts that Mr. Ohio football even saw that game. I think 90% of your so called knowledge is from heresay. You keep saying that Colerain has all these new kids here and there.. Who says all that .. YOU!! Are you making all these so called "excellent athletes" as you say up in your mind ? Just wondering. Where's the source ? Jimmie Bob up in Bowling Green telling you all this..? Again.. just wondering what the so called source of info is.

[concha]

Whatever Clown.... You going into a tirade "AGAIN" because you ask a "ME" a question and I give you my "HONEST" answer.. What do you do "ONCE AGAIN ?" Go into a tirade about Colerain this and Colerain that and Colerain has (2 D-1A LB's) and their (OL) is one of the best in the nation. Blah, blah , blah, blah, blah.. same Oh same oh from Concheee.

I'm loving the fact that you think the only kid on Tyler Lee's d-line is the Jacoby Mckenzie (6-1/255) kid. I think you're going to be in for the surprise with your under-estimating when its all said and done.

Have a nice night Mr. Tirade.

You calling someone "Mr. Tirade" is just beyond comical.

Mckenzie is the only returning starter from the combined '04 REL d-line and LBer corps. He is also the only currently recognized potential major recruit from that group. A have cast no aspersions at the other players. Just more imagined Concha attacks on Texas from Froggy's twisted mind.

[Texasfrog]

You calling someone "Mr. Tirade" is just beyond comical.

Mckenzie is the only returning starter from the combined '04 REL d-line and LBer corps. He is also the only currently recognized potential major recruit from that group. A have cast no aspersions at the other players. Just more imagined Concha attacks on Texas from Froggy's twisted mind.

Again clown.. you show that you're a very selective reader. DT-Jacoby Mckenzie and LB-Matt Uzzell are the two returning starters in the front 7 for Tyler Lee. 1+1= 2 just for you. But, since you're telling me that nobody on Tyler Lee's front 7 are really good I'll make sure Coach Law (defense coord) get a copy of that post. Its printed for him, Thanks.

I think he'll enjoy showing it to all the so called inferior Tyler Lee defensive players. Good Night, Thanks.

[concha]

Again clown.. you show that you're a very selective reader. DT-Jacoby Mckenzie and LB-Matt Uzzell are the two returning starters in the front 7 for Tyler Lee. 1+1= 2 just for you. But, since you're telling me that nobody on Tyler Lee's front 7 are really good I'll make sure Coach Law (defense coord) get a copy of that post. Its printed for him, Thanks.

I think he'll enjoy showing it to all the so called inferior Tyler Lee defensive players. Good Night, Thanks.

Two, great. My bad. Little change to my response, however.

BTW, be sure to point out where clearly where I say that nobody on REL's front 7 is very good. In fact, copy me on that message, would you? Heck, I supposedly wrote it but I'm damned if I can find it. Best regards to Coach Law.

[Texasfrog]

RB: Advantage Colerain. This is their "business" given that they run the option. At least one of their RBs is D1A. REL's potential D1A RB looks like an excellent athlete and this is not meant to slight them at all - just a matter of numbers and emphasis

Not meaning to start stuff with ya Concha.. but sometimes you post stuff that really kills me. It's the way you word stuff.. Like.. Colerain RB- Terrence Sherrer (5-10/190/4.5) and his (65 car-746 yds) is a D-1A player..

But.. Jason Williams (6-0/205/4.5) and his (99 car -796 yds) is a potential D-1A recruit.
I can tell you without a doubt that Jason Williams (bar injury or something crazy) will be a D-1A player. He has the level of ability in him..

Right now , until they both actually sign.. I would say they are both POTENTIAL D-1A running-backs if anything.. :)

Concheee... what do you think about Jason Williams ?

[Texasfrog]

Sherrer has offers. As far as I know, Williams does not.

What kills you exactly? Accuracy?

Think Williams has offers now ???

[Texasfrog]

Colerain lives and dies by the run. They have one RB with D1A offers and the other averaged 9.9 yards per carry last year. They always have QBs that can run. But it's a toss-up? Even though Colerain's entire offense is engineered around a successful running game? Even though they run behind an o-line with 3 returning starters including two kids who already have D1A offers - one of whom is amongst the top OT prospects in the nation? Right, Frog. Okey-dokey.

As regards the defensive secondary, there are currently three solid contestants for QB. The two who don't get the nod will likely become (or remain) d-backs. Eugene Clifford, BTW, is considered by the Colerain fathful to be be arguably the best athlete they have - and that says alot. Colerain will have a respectable secondary. And lets not forget that Preston Hill will be working behind a new and unproven o-line with at least two Big 10-bound LBers after his head.

As regards the d-lines, I find it interesting that for Colerain it is a potential crisis area, even though they have at least one returning starter and will be backed up by two Big 10 bound LBers (and they are facing complete newbies). Yet on the other hand, this one Mckenzie kid apparently trumps a National Top 100 ranked recruit, another D1A and yet another returning starter.

On paper, the biggest mismatch appears to be Colerain's o-line facing an REL d-line and LBer corps with just one returner. BTW, you may be going by last year's numbers, but think you underestimate the size of Colerain's o-line. I believe Ornella is in the 280-290 range, Smith is 300 and Wyatt was 254 last year, so you can probably put him in the 260-270 range for his senior year campaign. Barring undersized kids at the other line positions, you're looking at 270-280 average at least.

QB wasnt a major worry for you here. Colerain had a D-1A caliber RB, and two D-1A offensive lineman.

According to you Concha.. how could Tyler Lee's NG-Mckenzie and one single returning LB-Uzzell hope to contend with these overwelming odds that Colerain has at their hands..

Also, how could REL even think about having a chance to move the football against a team that has two Big-10 bound LB's.

[myround0]

Whose the third returning "starting OL" for Colerain ??? I know they have two ( Ot-Conner Smith & Og-Eric Ornella) but who is this mystery third returing starter ? He didnt start or play in the State Title game against Mckinley .. I'll tell ya that.

Starters:

Te-Jeremy Hartmann - Sr
OL-Bradley Zoz - Sr
OL-Vince Forcellini - Sr
OL-Bryan Shelton - Sr
OL- Conner Smith - Jr
OL- Eric Ornella - Jr

So.. who was the 3rd returning starter ? Just wondering.. Like I said.. He didnt play in the Ohio Title game at all unless it was on the very last series of the game or something like that.

How can you say Ohio O-line is better when Tyler Lee running back put up 260 yards on the ground...wow what else does Tyler Lee's line have to do

[Texasfrog]

How can you say Ohio O-line is better when Tyler Lee running back put up 260 yards on the ground...wow what else does Tyler Lee's line have to do

I'm retorting some of my buddy (Conche) statements that his made over the last couple of months. Basically on how Tyler Lee's is just going to be overwelmed with a much more talented Colerain team.

How does REL have a chance. His basically going into a denial that's his ever made statements like this.

[Texasfrog]

Colerain lives and dies by the run. They have one RB with D1A offers and the other averaged 9.9 yards per carry last year. They always have QBs that can run. But it's a toss-up? Even though Colerain's entire offense is engineered around a successful running game? Even though they run behind an o-line with 3 returning starters including two kids who already have D1A offers - one of whom is amongst the top OT prospects in the nation? Right, Frog. Okey-dokey.

As regards the defensive secondary, there are currently three solid contestants for QB. The two who don't get the nod will likely become (or remain) d-backs. Eugene Clifford, BTW, is considered by the Colerain fathful to be be arguably the best athlete they have - and that says alot. Colerain will have a respectable secondary. And lets not forget that Preston Hill will be working behind a new and unproven o-line with at least two Big 10-bound LBers after his head.

As regards the d-lines, I find it interesting that for Colerain it is a potential crisis area, even though they have at least one returning starter and will be backed up by two Big 10 bound LBers (and they are facing complete newbies). Yet on the other hand, this one Mckenzie kid apparently trumps a National Top 100 ranked recruit, another D1A and yet another returning starter.

On paper, the biggest mismatch appears to be Colerain's o-line facing an REL d-line and LBer corps with just one returner. BTW, you may be going by last year's numbers, but think you underestimate the size of Colerain's o-line. I believe Ornella is in the 280-290 range, Smith is 300 and Wyatt was 254 last year, so you can probably put him in the 260-270 range for his senior year campaign. Barring undersized kids at the other line positions, you're looking at 270-280 average at least.

Concheee, please explain this post ? Just seems like you knocking some of the Tyler Lee boys here. Seems like you trying to claim they're inferior to the Colerain boys. I dont know but maybe its just me.

PS. QB wasnt an issue here for ya. It just didnt matter because Colerain is always loaded with athletes that will be able to do it.

[FootballJunkie]

Tyler Lee comes to Waco to play the Lions.

Lee has never won in Waco......and it will be tough for them again this year.

The last 2 years Waco has been pretty down..........this year and next will actually field a tough team.
Waco has four starters on offense retuning and three on defense from a 7-4 team. Not saying they will be bad this year but not as good as last year especially when they are trying to learn a new offense. I don't see this being a difficult game for Lee. 35-14 Lee winning is not a stretch.

[raidercheerdad]

TexasFrog -- with you around, I can just keep my mouth shut and read! I look forward to the Waco game but I'm really ready to see how we match up against Colerain and Euless Trinity. I personally think that if we get past those three, we have a great chance to run the table! If not,..........still a deep run. We are extremely young this year -- a lot of juniors in key roles.

[Texasfrog]

TexasFrog -- with you around, I can just keep my mouth shut and read! I look forward to the Waco game but I'm really ready to see how we match up against Colerain and Euless Trinity. I personally think that if we get past those three, we have a great chance to run the table! If not,..........still a deep run. We are extremely young this year -- a lot of juniors in key roles.

I dont want to jump to far ahead.. But the Trinity game is going to be very very tough. They have the biggest O-line, more versatile offense (with great athletes) and a pretty tough fast defense.

Colerain is going to be tough . Still think playing in OHIO is going to be the biggest obstacle. I do however think that Tyler Lee is a very explosive offense and the defense is better than people think (ie. Southlake Carroll last year) plus, FS-Cuba is going to make it even better.

I'm telling you now, that Hollywood-Chaminade team could probably score at least 17-21 points on anyone in America much less 28 pts on Tyler Lee. Chaminade had a "GREAT" offense and very solid fast defense.

Tyler Lee's looking very good after one week. I think they're just going to get better each week.

[dragonsdaddy]

after watching the hoovering that nease took in alabama from the homer refs, i won't be surprised to read that some similar situations may arise in the buckeye state. will this be a home and home? assume not at is was arranged just for this spectacle.

[Texasfrog]

after watching the hoovering that nease took in alabama from the homer refs, i won't be surprised to read that some similar situations may arise in the buckeye state. will this be a home and home? assume not at is was arranged just for this spectacle.

Ya, that's what honestly scares me the most about the game. If an Ohio "ref" decides he wants to be Colerain 12th man it could make it tougher for Tyler Lee. All it takes is about 3 so so calls to really make a game swing to favor another team.

Its not a "home and Home" either and that bothers me.

I really wish they would of put in the contract for a "ref crew" from another State (ie. Missouri) or somewhere in the middle.