Javorskie Lane's weight

[jtk1519]

The aggy website shows that Jovorskie reported to practice at just shy of 280 pounds. I'm sure he will lose some weight during practices and stuff, but can Javorskie be the #1 back (God knows C-Lew can't) weighing that much? Weight became a pretty big issue with Toooooombs and I hope the same doesn't happen with Lane.

[AZTiger]

The aggy website shows that Jovorskie reported to practice at just shy of 280 pounds. I'm sure he will lose some weight during practices and stuff, but can Javorskie be the #1 back (God knows C-Lew can't) weighing that much? Weight became a pretty big issue with Toooooombs and I hope the same doesn't happen with Lane.

are you saying Lewis couldnt be the #1 back at 280lbs? :)

He's gonna turn into Joe Hall, that massive RB from KState a couple years back.

[Reaganrattler07]

Why don't you think Lewis can be the #1?

[pack0808]

The aggy website shows that Jovorskie reported to practice at just shy of 280 pounds. I'm sure he will lose some weight during practices and stuff, but can Javorskie be the #1 back (God knows C-Lew can't) weighing that much? Weight became a pretty big issue with Toooooombs and I hope the same doesn't happen with Lane.


That is absolutely ridiculous if true? His so called off season work out programs or lack there of are really going to hurt him as he gets older and older. just a shame. The guy could definitely be a NFL player if he would just get a serious work ethic in the off season and continue to watch it during the season.

[jtk1519]

Why don't you think Lewis can be the #1?

What in colligate history would lead you to believe that he could be the #1 back? The poor guy gets injured in a stiff breeze.

[jtk1519]

That is absolutely ridiculous if true? His so called off season work out programs or lack there of are really going to hurt him as he gets older and older. just a shame. The guy could definitely be a NFL player if he would just get a serious work ethic in the off season and continue to watch it during the season.

He's listed on the Spring roster at 5'11 274 and some have said he came in at 280+...

http://www.aggieathletics.com/bios.php?YOS=2006&SID=MFB&PID=7622

[slorch]

fran better lock up the Little Debbies

or I'm buying stock in McKee Brands Inc.

[lonny23]

That is just too heavy for a RB. You end up turning yourself into a situational short-yardage player at 260+.

[Texasfrog]

We had this conversation a year ago about J. Lanes weight. Watching him in high school and now at A&M. J. Lane is going to be one of those players that is going to be fighting the weight issue his whole career.

But, if he wants to become "bigtime" and become a national top-line RB and especially move on to the next level (NFL). He needs to start really working out and keeping the "FAT WEIGHT" off and get it together or "YES" he'll be the next J. Toombs.

[BigArab]

Yes. 280 is definitely not a healthy weight for him to be at when he is 5'11". Someone like Melton can kind of pull it off since he is 6'3" (although I think he needs to lose weight too or he'll find himself on the d-line.) If he wants to be a legit back, he needs to be 245 max, IMO. He has a lot of athleticism. Athleticism disappears with excess weight. He needs to get healthy for himself or he will be the next Toombs. A lot of it is about self-control. Sometimes players first years at the collegiate level, and maybe even throughout college, they choose to eat unhealthily. Taco Bell and a Chinese buffet is normal. Unluckily for Javorskie, he doesn't have the genetics to be able to eat stuff like that. When those players get to the NFL, they realize the importance of eating healthy. He needs a good diet and a steady workout schedule when he's on a break and doesn't have a weight coach in his face.





....oh yeah, and stay away from the Zebra cakes.

[mtbray]

Yeah, I remember last semester I saw Henry Melton at the Jester Cafeteria sometime in the morning. If I remember correctly he had double sausage, double eggs, and a couple biscuits too! Quite a meal! That and last week at my fraternity's party he showed up and wasn't drinking too much...I'm not sure if it was because he had a lady with him and was trying to be a gentleman or what but he really didn't seem to be very drunk, so I guess that's good. The guy sure does like to dance though! ha

[Daniel Agnew]

After seeing Lane in the North/South game last summer I knew this would be an issue, if he does get a good workout program going he could be a very good one, he did get better at the end of the season but if he can just chill with the weight issue he could do this from September on. On Melton he looks like he has muscle on him & he is a good athlete, he'll probably be a defensive lineman in the NFL if he keeps his speed.

[jtk1519]

The difference between Lane and Melton is not just their height or the fact that Melton is more muscular. The main difference is that Melton is a situational back that will only get consistent carries in mop-up duty or in the case of an extreme emergency (which in the case of the crazy depth Texas has at RB... that would have to be one helluva emergency). He's the goal line and short yardage back. You want his 270+ pounds and the strength and leverage it brings.

Lane is at the very worst a #2 back for aggy and in cases like last year, he's the #1 back. Now, if Franochio wants to move Lane to FB or let one of the new recruits take over #1/#2 duties and use Lane the same way Texas uses Melton, then the weight won't be that big of an issue. However, I just can't see a guy like Lane being consistently successful at the college level at over 260 pounds. That's an incredible amount of strain on a 5'11 frame and eventually, the constant beating is going to wear him down.

[KT2000]

Goodson should start very early in my opinion. Lane and Lewis will become purely situational players, and be there to give him a breather. As long as Goodson makes it to campus, he will start in my opinion. Best RB talent A&M has pulled in a long time.

[VB Pack Fan]

Goodson should start very early in my opinion. Lane and Lewis will become purely situational players, and be there to give him a breather. As long as Goodson makes it to campus, he will start in my opinion. Best RB talent A&M has pulled in a long time.

He,s injury prone , and it hurt him last year, didn,t do much. The talent only gets tougher in college.

[pack0808]

Lane is at least 6'0 who listed him at 5'11? Heck his brother his 6'5, his dad is 6'8 and his uncle is almost 6'10. If Lane gets his weight down to about 255 he should be the main man in the a@m backfield next year. All depends on his weight and work eithic.

[jtk1519]

Lane is at least 6'0 who listed him at 5'11?

The University of Texas A&M...

http://www.aggieathletics.com/bios.php?YOS=2006&SID=MFB&PID=7622

[LeanderLions3033]

Goodson will be the starting rb by midseason. If Lane could get his weight down to 255 then yes he would be a force, but hes not gonna get down to 255. If your weighing 274 as a sophomore and put on that much weight during the offseason then the lowest i see him getting from here on out is 270. Henry Melton looks to be about 270-280, but he also looked like alot of it was muscle unlike Lane, and Melton IMO is WAY to big to be a rb and will be a DE or a DT before the start of next season. But after watching the all american bowl, Goodson worries me a bit. A&M never has good backs.

[Slim-Rob]

That is just too heavy for a RB. You end up turning yourself into a situational short-yardage player at 260+.

Jerome Bettis....

[jtk1519]

Jerome Bettis....

Bettis said that this past season was the biggest he has ever been and he was listed a full 20 pounds smaller than Lane is now (Bettis was 5'11 255 this past season). While at Notre Dame, Bettis' playing weight was in the 230s and he was a very muscular. As a fat boy myself, I feel qualified to say that Lane is more on the fat side of the big man spectrum.

Lane could be the next LenDale White if he gets control of his body. White played at about 235 (about the same as Bettis in college). Lane could be the "thunder" to Goodson's "lightning", but he is going to have to trim down some to maintain his durability. White averaged something like 120 carries a year at USC and I don't know if Lane can do that at 270-280.

[Slim-Rob]

Bettis said that this past season was the biggest he has ever been and he was listed a full 20 pounds smaller than Lane is now (Bettis was 5'11 255 this past season). While at Notre Dame, Bettis' playing weight was in the 230s and he was a very muscular. As a fat boy myself, I feel qualified to say that Lane is more on the fat side of the big man spectrum.

Lane could be the next LenDale White if he gets control of his body. White played at about 235 (about the same as Bettis in college). Lane could be the "thunder" to Goodson's "lightning", but he is going to have to trim down some to maintain his durability. White averaged something like 120 carries a year at USC and I don't know if Lane can do that at 270-280.

Jerome Bettis was NOT 255 lbs. he was more than that. I don't care what he was listed at.

[jtk1519]

Jerome Bettis was NOT 255 lbs. he was more than that. I don't care what he was listed at.

That's what Joey Porter said before the Superbowl, but Bettis insisted he was no heavier than 255. :D

[pack0808]

The University of Texas A&M...

http://www.aggieathletics.com/bios.php?YOS=2006&SID=MFB&PID=7622


wow? He was always listed as 6'0 or 6'1 in highschool. Maybe his big belly made him slump over a lose a few inches when they were measuring him. ;)

[pack0808]

Jerome Bettis was NOT 255 lbs. he was more than that. I don't care what he was listed at.


And i do not care what the aggy listing said he is not 5'11? I am right at 6'0 with shoes on and i have talked to him and stood by him several times. He is at least 1 inch taller then me.

[VB Pack Fan]

And i do not care what the aggy listing said he is not 5'11? I am right at 6'0 with shoes on and i have talked to him and stood by him several times. He is at least 1 inch taller then me.

Lane is my nephew and is at my home every time he,s home. He is at least 6"0 even though they have him at something else.The last time I saw him he did not look 270, look as he had lost some weight, but if he wants too play he can trim down ,hell he,s only 19.

[LUFPAN]

wow? He was always listed as 6'0 or 6'1 in highschool. Maybe his big belly made him slump over a lose a few inches when they were measuring him. ;)

I'm 5' 11" and I was looking him square in the chin at the SLC game this past year. He's definitely 6' 1 " or taller.

[Favpack]

I'd put him at 6'1 before 5'11. 280 is 30 lbs. too many - he must like college cooking.

[jtk1519]

Apparently pockets aren't the only thing being kept full down in collie station. :eek: :D

[PurpleNation]

I talked to lane about a week ago and he told me he was the #1 back over Lewis. Goodson is not half the RB Lane is. If I remember correctly Lane put 106 yards on UT on Just 10 carries. Lane is the not the Typical Big Back compaing him to Jammar Tombs is like chicken express to KFC. Lane is way more athletic with great hands. Lane is the aggies future.

[jtk1519]

Goodson is not half the RB Lane is.

To be precise, Goodson is about 68% the RB Lane is... depending on how many boxes of cereal Lane had for breakfast.

[pack0808]

If Lane would get down to about 245-250 he would be a dominant college runner. He has to get some of that fat off!

[TheDuke]

If Lane would get down to about 245-250 he would be a dominant college runner. He has to get some of that fat off!

If he was that weight he would be the next Bettis!!

He is a LOAD to stop! Just needs to slip it down. His future depends on it.

[PurpleNation]

To be precise, Goodson is about 68% the RB Lane is... depending on how many boxes of cereal Lane had for breakfast.


Goodson is trash compared to Lane. I have played against Goodson and with Lane so I feel I can make a good comparison. Goodson had 11 carries for 33 yards against us in 04 and he was Mr 10 yards a carry. IM sorry but lack of competetion made him look good. Goodson is average at best and will watch Lane carry the rick for the next 3 years before he gets his shot.

[jtk1519]

Goodson is trash compared to Lane. I have played against Goodson and with Lane so I feel I can make a good comparison. Goodson had 11 carries for 33 yards against us in 04 and he was Mr 10 yards a carry. IM sorry but lack of competetion made him look good. Goodson is average at best and will watch Lane carry the rick for the next 3 years before he gets his shot.

I don't think you got it. I have failed. :(

[pack0808]

Goodson is trash compared to Lane. I have played against Goodson and with Lane so I feel I can make a good comparison. Goodson had 11 carries for 33 yards against us in 04 and he was Mr 10 yards a carry. IM sorry but lack of competetion made him look good. Goodson is average at best and will watch Lane carry the rick for the next 3 years before he gets his shot.


If Lane is going to carry the rick then who is going to carry the rock? Or is he going to carry Rick's rock?

I hate to say it because I am a big fan of Lane! but the way Lane looks now he would probably rather carry a roast instead.

[TheDuke]

If Lane is going to carry the rick then who is going to carry the rock? Or is he going to carry Rick's rock?

I hate to say it because I am a big fan of Lane! but the way Lane looks now he would probably rather carry a roast instead.


Good Point!

Also, Goodson is NOT trash! He played in a FLEXBONE OFFENSE which can be defended. When he plays for the A&M Offense he will be different and he WILL be a difference maker. Lufkin stopped him but they always have a good Defense. Goodson will make plays for the Aggies.

LANE needs to slim down!!

[dawgsRgrowlin]

Re. the negative comments earlier about the effect of Little Debbies on Lane's weight -- I have it from a reliable source that they only serve the whole wheat, low fat, sugar-free LD snack cakes at the Aggie training table. ;)

[LeanderLions3033]

Goodson is not half the RB Lane is.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but if you watched the Army all american game, you would know that Goodson may have very well been the best back in that game. If he makes it on campus he'll be the starting running back by the middle of big 12 play. Nothing against Lane, but hes just too big.

[rich_pack]

We Lufkin fans hear people dogging him about his weight since he was a sophmore in high school, but he is a true athlete. He may be big, but he can out run alot of guys half his weight. He looks like he can barley move, but when he gets the ball he is hard to tackle, he is also a very good basketball player as well. Maybe he will hush a few more people when the season starts about this situation. I know he will!!!

[pack0808]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but if you watched the Army all american game, you would know that Goodson may have very well been the best back in that game. If he makes it on campus he'll be the starting running back by the middle of big 12 play. Nothing against Lane, but hes just too big.


If Lane gets in better shape like he should? Goodson will not have a chance at starting in my opinion. I have seen Goodson several times. Great athlete and good runner but not that impressive. Of course he was going up against the LP defense so that probably made the difference. He really did not have much of a chance in those games.

[LeanderLions3033]

but if you watched the Army all american game, you would know that Goodson may have very well been the best back in that game.

I guess you guys didnt watch the game. I'm a UT fan that has his orange tinted glasses on plenty of times, and i'm telling you that i came away from that game most impressed with him then any other back. I'm not saying hes A&M's answer to winning games or anything (IMO the only variable with that one is how long Coach Fran stays in college station) but he was playing against some of the best defensive players out there. I'm not saying Lane isnt good, as matter of fact i thought he was a very good back last year, but hes WAY to big right now. I know people have probably been giving him the you're way to big talk ever since he was in high school, but he was also never freaking 280 lbs (if that is accurate).

[SLCDRGN]

Lane has turned into a fat slob that can't get out of his own way. He will be on the OL at A&M within the next year as a back-up at best. He can't/won't lose the weight. If he would have been in better shape, Lufkin could have beated SLC in 2004. He moved like he was in slow motion when he tried to get outside on SLC. He got yards up the middle because he was so fat. Lane doesn't want it that bad. He might sniff the field in college but he won't make it to the NFL!!

I know the Lufkin faithful won't like this post. Just speaking the truth!

[slorch]

Lane has turned into a fat slob that can't get out of his own way. He will be on the OL at A&M within the next year as a back-up at best. He can't/won't lose the weight. If he would have been in better shape, Lufkin could have beated SLC in 2004. He moved like he was in slow motion when he tried to get outside on SLC. He got yards up the middle because he was so fat. Lane doesn't want it that bad. He might sniff the field in college but he won't make it to the NFL!!

I know the Lufkin faithful won't like this post. Just speaking the truth!
In Lane's defense, and I do not personally know him, he put that team on his shoulders more than once and carried them to victory. In the '04 game he ran over SLC in the second half. He was little more than a decoy:mad: in the first half, and IMO that cost LP the game( only quarter that SLC outscored LP was 2nd, 21-7.)
When he signed with A&M I was told his work ethic was the biggest question, and evidently it still is, to your point. He does have the ability to be a dominant back, if he is willing to put in the work. Not many freshman backs put 100 yards on UT, but he will never be great at 260+ pounds.

[pack0808]

Lane has turned into a fat slob that can't get out of his own way. He will be on the OL at A&M within the next year as a back-up at best. He can't/won't lose the weight. If he would have been in better shape, Lufkin could have beated SLC in 2004. He moved like he was in slow motion when he tried to get outside on SLC. He got yards up the middle because he was so fat. Lane doesn't want it that bad. He might sniff the field in college but he won't make it to the NFL!!

I know the Lufkin faithful won't like this post. Just speaking the truth!


I agree that his weight is out of control now but come on! Lane was dominate in 2004 and SLC was the only team that contained him. They had a perfect gameplan. Bring people up and hit him real low. I mean come on. He just had over 100 yards vs the college national champion. If he gets in shape watch out. One of the most talented players i have seen and i have seen a lot.

[PurpleNation]

Lane needs to do this Lane needs to do that Lane needs to quite eating little debbies. It seems like alot of people want to hate on J Lane because of his weight. After his freshmen season you can already tell he wont make it to the NFL How? Now im a UT fan until I die but did you see what he did to Aaron Harris and the rest of the Longhorn defense that held reggie bush to 83 yards on 13 carries but couldnt hold Lane under 100 on 10 carries. People get on these boards and just run therie mouth and know nothing. Lane will be the starter next season for the Aggies you can bank on that and you can bank on C Lewis being the backup. And there was something were someone said lane would wrather hold a roast. Maybe Lane would wana hold his new born baby girl instead and be happy. BUt he has to deal with everyone saying hes to fat to play RB. Lane is just as big as he was last year when I saw him he looked just the same to me. If sombody is adding weight go over to Tech and look at the freshmnen all american defensive end McKinner Dixon 280lbs of pure muscle now. But thats how we do it in Lufkin produce athletes after athletes after athletes. And after next season Lufkin might ink another 7 to 8 D1 signees.

[Daniel Agnew]

Dixon is in very good shape too theres no comparison between him & Lane. Lane does need to control his weight, the more this subject goes the more this has me questioning his work ethic, if he has the chance to become the next Bettis he should take advantage of that, instead he's doing the same thing Lendale White is doing(who is a much better back than Lane).

[pack0808]

Lane needs to do this Lane needs to do that Lane needs to quite eating little debbies. It seems like alot of people want to hate on J Lane because of his weight. After his freshmen season you can already tell he wont make it to the NFL How? Now im a UT fan until I die but did you see what he did to Aaron Harris and the rest of the Longhorn defense that held reggie bush to 83 yards on 13 carries but couldnt hold Lane under 100 on 10 carries. People get on these boards and just run therie mouth and know nothing. Lane will be the starter next season for the Aggies you can bank on that and you can bank on C Lewis being the backup. And there was something were someone said lane would wrather hold a roast. Maybe Lane would wana hold his new born baby girl instead and be happy. BUt he has to deal with everyone saying hes to fat to play RB. Lane is just as big as he was last year when I saw him he looked just the same to me. If sombody is adding weight go over to Tech and look at the freshmnen all american defensive end McKinner Dixon 280lbs of pure muscle now. But thats how we do it in Lufkin produce athletes after athletes after athletes. And after next season Lufkin might ink another 7 to 8 D1 signees.


Your in denial man and yelling at the wrong people. I am a huge Lane fan and Lufkin fan wake up. Last time i checked it is ok to weigh 280 at defensive line not running back. Big Big difference. Even Bus could harldy do it at 270 last year but i guess Lane is the ultimate exception? If the guy lost 20 he would be scary.

[Texasfrog]

If J. Lane could control his weight in the 240 range,, he would be scary. He has the power, vision and quickness to be a very special type of situational back (short yardage) and move the pile type of back.

But, if his work ethic isnt there and he wants to (chase girls all day, party, eat alot of crap and ect). Then he'll be back in Lufkin in a couple of years talking about how great a high school player he was at Lufkin and how he had one or two pretty good years at Texas A&M.;)

[jtk1519]

I'm not going to say that Lane cannot be successful at his current weight, but history and the offense he plays in are not on his side.

There are not very many big backs (meaning 240+) that have done well in college football. The ones that have, played in ground, power based offenses that allowed them to just pound the ball North-South (see Bus at Notre Dame, Ron Dayne at Wisconsin, etc.). They certainly weren't playing in spread option offenses like Lane is.

That size also doesn't bode well for extending his career beyond college either. The biggest starting RB in the NFL now days is Baltimore's Jamal Lewis who goes about 5'11 240... almost 40 pounds lighter than Lane. Even a guy like Ron Dayne who holds the career rushing record in college football is nothing more than an occasional RB/bench-warmer in the NFL and he's only 245.

It looks like Javorskie is heading down the Ja'Mar Toombs path and that aint a good thing. Toombs is fondly recalled in aggyland, but in his best season, he rushed for only 583 yards and 9 TDs. Numbers like that just won't get it cut now days... not as the main guy. If Lane can put up numbers like that and have others guys step up carrying the ball as well, then he can make it.

Look at last year... Lane led the team in carries but finished 3rd in rushing behind an injury plagued RB who played in fewer games (Lewis). Lane will probably lead the team in carries for a few years, but I doubt that he will ever be their leading rusher. He's just not built for that and he's not built for Franochio's spread option offense. Lewis sucks, but he still has a year and if he can stay healthy, he will lead the team in rushing. Then you have guys like Goodson and Cooper coming up. Everybody knows about Goodson and those of you that doubt him are stupid. Mack Brown, Bob Stoops, Larry Coker and Pete Carroll do not offer scholarships to bad players. Goodson will get his. I will also look out for Cooper. Before tearing his knee up, he was without question the best RB in Texas. If he can regain his form, he will get his as well.

I hope Lane does well. He looks like a good kid and he sure was fun to watch in high school, but this isn't high school anymore. For Lane to live up to the crazy hype being thrown on him by some, he is going to have to do what few in the history of college football have done and he is going to have to do with a deck that is stacked against him.

[CKE]

ok so bottom line of this thread is the kid is to fat and needs to get in shape thats it dicussion over

[Texasfrog]

JTK... I'm with ya on Goodson. I havent seen much of him. But, the little bit that I've seen, he has made me a go "Damn!"

That kid has some bigtime skill and reminded me of Reggie Bush.

[thebiggestfan]

JTK... I'm with ya on Goodson. I havent seen much of him. But, the little bit that I've seen, he has made me a go "Damn!"

That kid has some bigtime skill and reminded me of Reggie Bush.

Wow Goodson is a studd and can do tramendous things thats why he was a top prospect in the nation!!!!

[Texasfrog]

Wow Goodson is a studd and can do tramendous things thats why he was a top prospect in the nation!!!!

Gee, the last time I looked at one of the recruiting guru checklist. Goodson wasn't the top prospect in the nation. In fact I dont even think he was in the top #20 or so. I know he wasnt the top prospect at the RB spot in the nation.

Anyway,, those list and crap dont mean awhole lot to me and really never do. There fun to look at and get information but I dont take them as a 100% valid fact.

But, going back to Goodson. Like I said, I've only seen about 20 plays (mostly highlite) and that kid has some bigtime skills. He should be a great college player.

PS. Thanks for your insite,, I can tell that you "REALLY" know football.

[jtk1519]

FWIW, Rivals.com had Goodson listed as a 4 star RB, rated the 4th best RB in the nation. Scout.com had him listed as a 5 star, 6th best RB in the nation.

By comparison, Rivals had Lane listed as a FB coming out of high school (ranked the 2nd best FB in the nation). Scout had him listed as a RB... the 40th best in the nation.

[dawgsRgrowlin]

Here's Lane's listing in the final spring roster:

11 Lane, Jorvorskie 6-0 274

http://www.coachfran.com/news.aspx?id=379

[Firebird]

Here's Lane's listing in the final spring roster:

11 Lane, Jorvorskie 6-0 274

http://www.coachfran.com/news.aspx?id=379

Damn, 6 feet tall and 274 pounds. He has a height/weight ratio worse than that of most NFL offensive lineman. He might be able to do OK against some college defenses at that weight, but he will never play in the pros if he doesn't drop some pounds. He better try to shap up over the summer.

[pack0808]

FWIW, Rivals.com had Goodson listed as a 4 star RB, rated the 4th best RB in the nation. Scout.com had him listed as a 5 star, 6th best RB in the nation.

By comparison, Rivals had Lane listed as a FB coming out of high school (ranked the 2nd best FB in the nation). Scout had him listed as a RB... the 40th best in the nation.


I am not doubting that Goodson is very very good. The scouts would not have him that high if he did not have some major skills. But when you only have seen him twice and you saw Lufkin absolutely manhandle him it makes you wonder. I am sure that had more to do with their o-line and Lufkin's overall speed? Then again, KC was supposed to have a solid ol? I was simply going by what i saw of him, but 2 games mean nada.