Cowboys Suck Thread

[Maroondog]

Is there really anything to discuss?

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Word on the street is that, the 'Boys will not be going to Minnesota. Instead, they're gonna go play the Alto Yellowjackets JV squad.

Alto wins by a field goal!

[su4c]

If we keep going in this direction, change will surely come in the coaching ranks. Just hope Jerry doesn't make the situation worse than it already is.

[Maroondog]

Word on the street is that, the 'Boys will not be going to Minnesota. Instead, they're gonna go play the Alto Yellowjackets JV squad.

Alto wins by a field goal!

I hope not. It would be a disgrace to the Alto program to have to play this type of competition.

[Maroondog]

If we keep going in this direction, change will surely come in the coaching ranks. Just hope Jerry doesn't make the situation worse than it already is.

Does it matter who he has standing on the sidelines? Seriously?

[su4c]

Does it matter who he has standing on the sidelines? Seriously?

As long as Jerry is watching from his spot in the booth, probably not. Just saying a coaching change is bound to happen. The only thing Wade had on his side last year was the defense but with the way they're playing now, he's got nothing to lean on.

[SWMHebron]

As long as Jerry is watching from his spot in the booth, probably not. Just saying a coaching change is bound to happen. The only thing Wade had on his side last year was the defense but with the way they're playing now, he's got nothing to lean on.

The offense played well enough today to win, despite the INTs. The defense and kick coverage gave it away.

[slcdragonfan]

The offense played well enough today to win, despite the INTs. The defense and kick coverage gave it away.

In fact, how many times was Romo sacked, 6? How many times hit, how many rushed passes, how many times on the ground?

The problem today was the same problem as the other games, the Offensive Line. and the new twist was the secondary. Made VY look like Joe Namath.

We better keep a young QB around as backup, cause Tony won't be able to take this all season.

One thing for sure, 1 good game out of 4 does not get you to the Super Bowl.

[Favpack]

In fact, how many times was Romo sacked, 6? How many times hit, how many rushed passes, how many times on the ground?

The problem today was the same problem as the other games, the Offensive Line. and the new twist was the secondary. Made VY look like Joe Namath.

We better keep a young QB around as backup, cause Tony won't be able to take this all season.

One thing for sure, 1 good game out of 4 does not get you to the Super Bowl.

If my math is correct, it gets you to 4-12 - which means a darn good 2011 draft pick! Winner!

[yankee]

lol @ dawgfan. :rofl:

[E-Vol-ution]

I won't dump on the Cowboys.....but it sure feels better being a Giants fan.

[Favpack]

In all seriousness, the team could still get on a roll, but, at this point, the hole is almost too deep.

You essentially now need to beat Philly twice, NY twice and the 'Skins at home. If you do that - you're probably ok. I would put the odds of that happening at about 20%.

The team is in serious potential of slipping into the 6-10 range - losing the season completely. If that happens - you'll see a Cowher or Tony Dungy with a totally new staff. Wouldn't that be tragic.

[Dawg Fan]

lol @ dawgfan. :rofl:

I do what I can to entertain you. If ou loses I will start a FIRE BOB STOOPS thread immediately.;)

[Dawg Fan]

I won't dump on the Cowboys.....but it sure feels better being a Giants fan.

I don't blame you, the Giants looked better yesterday than I have seen them in a while. They keep that up they will run away with the division.

[Dawg Fan]

In all seriousness, the team could still get on a roll, but, at this point, the hole is almost too deep.

You essentially now need to beat Philly twice, NY twice and the 'Skins at home. If you do that - you're probably ok. I would put the odds of that happening at about 20%.

The team is in serious potential of slipping into the 6-10 range - losing the season completely. If that happens - you'll see a Cowher or Tony Dungy with a totally new staff. Wouldn't that be tragic.

Jones the idiot missed his shot a Shanahan and I doubt Cowher would be able to work with jerrah. Maybe Chucky could be an option

[Maroondog]

I saw quotes in the paper today from players essentially saying "We don't know what the problem is."

I contend that if the players cannot see the stupid penalties, lack of discipline, missed assignments, poor coaching, etc., etc., etc., then the IQ average on this team is far less than a snail.

On the good side of all this, the comic value here is priceless.

[slcdragonfan]

I saw quotes in the paper today from players essentially saying "We don't know what the problem is."

I contend that if the players cannot see the stupid penalties, lack of discipline, missed assignments, poor coaching, etc., etc., etc., then the IQ average on this team is far less than a snail.

On the good side of all this, the comic value here is priceless.

I would say start right here (not with Tony, he is the only reason they are in the games anyway, but with the fact that he is on the ground):

http://images.publicradio.org/content/2010/01/17/20100117_romo_sacked_33.jpg

[Maroondog]

I would say start right here (not with Tony, he is the only reason they are in the games anyway, but with the fact that he is on the ground):

http://images.publicradio.org/content/2010/01/17/20100117_romo_sacked_33.jpg


Romo might benefit by starting to assert himself. I'd like to see him get into a face or two and take a leadership role. He has a very passive demeanor and they need someone who can light the fire.

[yankee]

If ou loses I will start a FIRE BOB STOOPS thread immediately.;)

:notworthy

[99cujo]

They "sucie","sucie".....thay sucie lone time:Censor:...but they still my boyz

[mojotrain]

I saw quotes in the paper today from players essentially saying "We don't know what the problem is."

I contend that if the players cannot see the stupid penalties, lack of discipline, missed assignments, poor coaching, etc., etc., etc., then the IQ average on this team is far less than a snail.

On the good side of all this, the comic value here is priceless.

if they can't remember the snap count it's no wonder they don't know the problem.

[Big Dawgs Dad]

Dallas's season will only get worse when they go up to Minnesota this Sunday. After losing to the Jets last night the Vikings will not be in a very good mood and that will not bode well for the Cowboys.

[SLC93]

In all seriousness, the team could still get on a roll, but, at this point, the hole is almost too deep.

You essentially now need to beat Philly twice, NY twice and the 'Skins at home. If you do that - you're probably ok. I would put the odds of that happening at about 20%.

The team is in serious potential of slipping into the 6-10 range - losing the season completely. If that happens - you'll see a Cowher or Tony Dungy with a totally new staff. Wouldn't that be tragic.

This has been the concern with this group for me since post Chicago. The issue is Dallas had no wiggle room this season. That schedule is ridiculous and they opened by dropping two of it's most winnable games. Unless they can find last December's mojo this group has never displayed the mental fortitude to be able to over come failing like this/ It could spiral.

As for this week's debacle, there is no better illustration of what happens when poor coaching and a vastly overestimated offensive line converge. Perhaps a season lost to an epic spiral will result in Jerry using his first 3 picks on lineman next spring and the next check in his wallet on a frontline coach in January. I pleaded for Shanahan the entire year he was out and met some resistance here and there. Look what his presence has done for them.

The only silver lining we have at this point is this. Dallas is good enough to have 3 turnovers, give up 5 sacks in the first half, commit 13 penalties for over 100 yards and allow a 7- yard return but only lose by 7. Put those ingredients in any other game and most teams lose by 21-30. The problem is the players know how much talent they have and they take it for granted. Maybe when they go down as the biggest disappointment in the modern era they'll learn some humility.

[SLC93]

Dallas's season will only get worse when they go up to Minnesota this Sunday. After losing to the Jets last night the Vikings will not be in a very good mood and that will not bode well for the Cowboys.

Not sure I agree with this, entirely. Minny is just as disappointing as Dallas, at this point. Their line isn't any better than ours and Favre looks like he should have stayed on the farm. Should see what real desperation produces as two, former favorites play for their seasons, though.

[slcdragonfan]

This has been the concern with this group for me since post Chicago. The issue is Dallas had no wiggle room this season. That schedule is ridiculous and they opened by dropping two of it's most winnable games. Unless they can find last December's mojo this group has never displayed the mental fortitude to be able to over come failing like this/ It could spiral.

As for this week's debacle, there is no better illustration of what happens when poor coaching and a vastly overestimated offensive line converge. Perhaps a season lost to an epic spiral will result in Jerry using his first 3 picks on lineman next spring and the next check in his wallet on a frontline coach in January. I pleaded for Shanahan the entire year he was out and met some resistance here and there. Look what his presence has done for them.

The only silver lining we have at this point is this. Dallas is good enough to have 3 turnovers, give up 5 sacks in the first half, commit 13 penalties for over 100 yards and allow a 7- yard return but only lose by 7. Put those ingredients in any other game and most teams lose by 21-30. The problem is the players know how much talent they have and they take it for granted. Maybe when they go down as the biggest disappointment in the modern era they'll learn some humility.

Who has vastly overrated the O-Line is my question. :)
Obviously they are otherwise immensely talented on offense. I was suggesting they trade a RB and a WR for some O-line strength, they are very deep there.

The bad news is the DB's failed this week. AGainst VY. :rolleyes:

[CCDawgs]

Who has vastly overrated the O-Line is my question. :)
Obviously they are otherwise immensely talented on offense. I was suggesting they trade a RB and a WR for some O-line strength, they are very deep there.

The bad news is the DB's failed this week. AGainst VY. :rolleyes:

We need a damn CB opposite of Newman cause Jenkins is sucking straight *******!! :Censor:

[SLC93]

Who has vastly overrated the O-Line is my question. :)
Obviously they are otherwise immensely talented on offense. I was suggesting they trade a RB and a WR for some O-line strength, they are very deep there.

The bad news is the DB's failed this week. AGainst VY. :rolleyes:

The front office rolled the dice that an agin line could suffice one more year. They were wrong. We all knew this to be flawed logic from day 1 of the 2010 offseason.

[Big Dawgs Dad]

Not sure I agree with this, entirely. Minny is just as disappointing as Dallas, at this point. Their line isn't any better than ours and Favre looks like he should have stayed on the farm. Should see what real desperation produces as two, former favorites play for their seasons, though.

I agree with you that Minnesota and Dallas have both been disappointments so far this season. The Vikes o-line isn't nothing to write home about but they are a little better than Dallas's. Dallas's d-line is a good one but Minnesota's is way better at stuffing the run and pass rushing. Favre is still getting his timing down with his receivers and will improve with each game where as Romo has had all of training camp and all of the earlier summer camps to get ready. I think the Vikes will win big over Dallas.

[SLC93]

I agree with you that Minnesota and Dallas have both been disappointments so far this season. The Vikes o-line isn't nothing to write home about but they are a little better than Dallas's. Dallas's d-line is a good one but Minnesota's is way better at stuffing the run and pass rushing. Favre is still getting his timing down with his receivers and will improve with each game where as Romo has had all of training camp and all of the earlier summer camps to get ready. I think the Vikes will win big over Dallas.

I'm going the other way, believe it or not. As much as Dallas has driven me to the ledge this season there are a few factors in their favor that cannot be denied. To begin, they are a much healthier squad. Minnessota has already lost starters for the season, including their starting cornerback last week. Along these lines people need to know this. Favre is a physical wreck right now. His elbow is said to be almost as bad as it was the last part of his season with the Jets and that ankle is still not fully healed. Also, Dallas has three losses that all went down to the final minute and two of them they were statistically dominant. Sooner or later those things even out. I think Dallas wins this one. They're under more pressure. Won't save their season, necessarilly, but it keeps it from being doomed. 21 teams have made the playoffs after 1-3 starts, including the SB winning Pats of 2001. None have started 1-4 and played in the post season. Dallas by 7.

[Big Dawgs Dad]

I'm going the other way, believe it or not. As much as Dallas has driven me to the ledge this season there are a few factors in their favor that cannot be denied. To begin, they are a much healthier squad. Minnessota has already lost starters for the season, including their starting cornerback last week. Along these lines people need to know this. Favre is a physical wreck right now. His elbow is said to be almost as bad as it was the last part of his season with the Jets and that ankle is still not fully healed. Also, Dallas has three losses that all went down to the final minute and two of them they were statistically dominant. Sooner or later those things even out. I think Dallas wins this one. They're under more pressure. Won't save their season, necessarilly, but it keeps it from being doomed. 21 teams have made the playoffs after 1-3 starts, including the SB winning Pats of 2001. None have started 1-4 and played in the post season. Dallas by 7.

We shall see.:D

[SLC93]

We shall see.:D

Then again Moss does average about 20 per and has 11 td's against Dallas in his career.:mad:

[Dawg Fan]

Thing is, if Favre goes down with an injury which is very likely, the party is over for sure.

[Maroondog]

I'm going the other way, believe it or not. As much as Dallas has driven me to the ledge this season there are a few factors in their favor that cannot be denied. To begin, they are a much healthier squad. Minnessota has already lost starters for the season, including their starting cornerback last week. Along these lines people need to know this. Favre is a physical wreck right now. His elbow is said to be almost as bad as it was the last part of his season with the Jets and that ankle is still not fully healed. Also, Dallas has three losses that all went down to the final minute and two of them they were statistically dominant. Sooner or later those things even out. I think Dallas wins this one. They're under more pressure. Won't save their season, necessarilly, but it keeps it from being doomed. 21 teams have made the playoffs after 1-3 starts, including the SB winning Pats of 2001. None have started 1-4 and played in the post season. Dallas by 7.

I tend to agree. We are not seeing the Favre of last year so this game might be more interesting than it would first appear.

That being said, the Cowboys can always find a way to lose somehow. With Moss now back to the Vikes, I can see Jenkins upping his penalty count significantly.

[TexasRed6x]

I tend to agree. We are not seeing the Favre of last year so this game might be more interesting than it would first appear.

That being said, the Cowboys can always find a way to lose somehow. With Moss now back to the Vikes, I can see Jenkins upping his penalty count significantly.

I LOL'ed at Jenkins for running scared when CJ was coming at him! it just goes to show you what a puss he is! Randy should run all over his :Censor:

[TexasRed6x]

I said this in the "Fire Wade thread" but this makes more sense to say it in here...the day Jerry Jones dies is when the cowboys will be a winning team again...until then Jerry is gonna do everything in his power to have his way and in the end bury the team into the ground.

[BackNBlack87]

Thing is, if Favre goes down with an injury which is very likely, the party is over for sure.

On a related note, did anyone see the video of Favre getting hit in his old small crotch area? Best thing I think ive ever seen in my life. I sat at my desk yesterday doing that silent laughter thing for like ten minutes. You know,where you laugh but nothing comes out and your shoulders just shake and shake, yeah... Favre getting hit in the nuts + internet = everything right with america

[Pearland1]

How about them Cowgirls!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL:D

[Dawg Fan]

How about them Cowgirls!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL:D

hey dufus, New Orleans is the reigning Super Bowl Champs. Try to live in the here and now.

[TexasRed6x]

How bout them cowboys? They suck! Again! :D

[Maroondog]

I tend to agree. We are not seeing the Favre of last year so this game might be more interesting than it would first appear.

That being said, the Cowboys can always find a way to lose somehow. With Moss now back to the Vikes, I can see Jenkins upping his penalty count significantly.


Cowboys can find a way to lose no matter what. Can't beat a broke down 41 year old, one armed QB. Pathetic.

Does Wade make the year or does Jerrah make his move now?

[LR46]

How about them Cowgirls!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL:D
^^^^^^^^^
This plus, I had a very weak moment today and decided to watch the Cowgirls play. Pathetic waste of my time. America's Team . . . :rofl: America's worst team.

Wade and company suck limp biskits. I'm sure if your a Cowgirl you must feel very proud and the fans do too. Embarrassing display of ineptitude. Jerry must be really proud of his investment and his absurd thoughts of his team playing here in the Super Bowl this year.

They don't even deserve to have tickets to sit in the stadium. Thank God for the Trinity Trojans.

[su4c]

Somebody should tell Garrett that there's more than one page in the playbook... I wonder if anyone kept a running count of how many times we threw a swing pass to Felix for no gain. Also, brilliant move going away from Barber on a crucial 3rd and 1 after he was 5-5 on 3rd/4th and short for the day.

[JagFan]

http://www.upsetfan.com/images/Upsetfanapril3.jpg

[TexasRed6x]

Somebody should tell Garrett that there's more than one page in the playbook... I wonder if anyone kept a running count of how many times we threw a swing pass to Felix for no gain. Also, brilliant move going away from Barber on a crucial 3rd and 1 after he was 5-5 on 3rd/4th and short for the day.

Agreed. Too many damn screen passes. They have a real deep threat in Miles Austin..then why not use him!!! oh the stupidity known as the cowboys!

[Favpack]

3 minutes left - you have 4th and a short 2 - and you punt it away.

Gutless. He's got a big gut, but he's gutless.

[Pearland1]

The last play was a real circus. I didn't know Ringley Brothers circus had taken over the cowboys. LOL:rofl:

"HOW ABOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[Maroondog]

The last play was a real circus. I didn't know Ringley Brothers circus had taken over the cowboys. LOL:rofl:

"HOW ABOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

You know better. The Cowboys ceased to be an actual football franchise a long time ago. Its all now about the glitz and glitter and how much cash flow Jerry can generate.

I give him all the credit though. He has hoodwinked enough people for a long enough time to convince me that P.T. Barnum was correct when he said "There's a sucker born every minute." In a sense, it does make the Cowboys a circus after all. Maybe you ARE right. :D

[su4c]

Jerry has already come out and said that there will be no coaching changes. Guess he really is playing for the draft now. Other than that news, the rest of his interview was full of sunshine-pumping like the Cowboys are only a .500 team and can get back on track in one week.

[KLH75287]

Somebody should tell Garrett that there's more than one page in the playbook... I wonder if anyone kept a running count of how many times we threw a swing pass to Felix for no gain. Also, brilliant move going away from Barber on a crucial 3rd and 1 after he was 5-5 on 3rd/4th and short for the day.

You mean the 3rd down play that Slick Red decides to throw the ball that resulted in a pick that led to the game winning score!

Red over thought himself and called it, Tony Gayhat threw it, and Daboyz are 1-4.

Nobody in the league manages to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory better than Dallas these days.

Hopefully this craziness will end soon!

[JMSFan]

You mean the 3rd down play that Slick Red decides to throw the ball that resulted in a pick that led to the game winning score!

Red over thought himself and called it, Tony Gayhat threw it, and Daboyz are 1-4.

Nobody in the league manages to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory better than Dallas these days.

Hopefully this craziness will end soon!

I thought Dallas still had a chance with just a couple of minutes left, and could have got the ball back until Jenkins got the pass interference call.
They had already burned their last time out.

[99cujo]

Agreed. Too many damn screen passes. They have a real deep threat in Miles Austin..then why not use him!!! oh the stupidity known as the cowboys!I agree too many...wtf

[SLC93]

Agreed. Too many damn screen passes. They have a real deep threat in Miles Austin..then why not use him!!! oh the stupidity known as the cowboys!

How many games will it take for him to realize his base set has got to be a w ide receiver, one back set with Austin, Williams, Bryant, Jones and Witten. Everyone of those receivers is a good to great blocker in addition to their receiving skills. That set works.

Garrett is years away from being the head coach some think he can be. I don't see it, personally. He's little more than an average coordinator.

[SLC93]

If the season bottoms out does it provide Jerry with the momment of clarity we've all been praying for since Jimmy left? Does he look to the east and see that even little Danny got it? Look at Washington. In one offseason the owner learned a lesson nobody thought he could. He looked in the mirror and decided it was time to put in a top gm, Bruce Allen. He hired en elite coach and staff in Shanahan. As a result they are now in every game they play despite being devoid of any real weapons on offense.

Write the checks and market, Jerra. It's what you're the best at. It's what owners do.

Time for Jerry to disappear, like he did when Parcells was here. Otherwise he's going to miss the window this group of talent has nad we'll be back to rebuilding. For someone that craves Super Bowls so much he sure does lack the capacity to understand how to get there.

[su4c]

If the season bottoms out does it provide Jerry with the momment of clarity we've all been praying for since Jimmy left? Does he look to the east and see that even little Danny got it? Look at Washington. In one offseason the owner learned a lesson nobody thought he could. He looked in the mirror and decided it was time to put in a top gm, Bruce Allen. He hired en elite coach and staff in Shanahan. As a result they are now in every game they play despite being devoid of any real weapons on offense.

Write the checks and market, Jerra. It's what you're the best at. It's what owners do.

Time for Jerry to disappear, like he did when Parcells was here. Otherwise he's going to miss the window this group of talent has nad we'll be back to rebuilding. For someone that craves Super Bowls so much he sure does lack the capacity to understand how to get there.

I can't even imagine it happening.

I look at Oakland and Al Davis, and just think, that's what we have to look forward to.

[E-Vol-ution]

Wow........I won't say the Boys suck, but this doesn't look good.
It's like finding ways to let the other team stick around.

[SLC93]

Wow........I won't say the Boys suck, but this doesn't look good.
It's like finding ways to let the other team stick around.

Suck is too strong of a word. The bottomline is, though, it doesnt matter if you're losing by 1 or 14, a loss is a loss. Dallas has been an exception to the rule the last several seasons and it's now coming back to bite them. Since Wade took the job this has been on of the most penalized teams in the league. With the exception of last season they have also struggled with turnovers. In this league those are coffin nails yet Dallas managed to go 32-16 and win 2 division titles. You couldn't preach discipline and execution to them because they were beating the odds and winning anyway. Couple this with Jerry's never ending hype machine and this team has become drunk on their own suppossed talent. Now that the breaks aren't going their way and the law of averages is again ruling the day this team is incapable of focusing on the details. They simply do not know how. As a result they have four losses by a touchdown or less.

[SV61]

Well, they lost.

HOWEVER, I THINK the team is getting better. They actually looked pretty good, for a change. A couple of plays the other way, and they win this game, in this building.

Excessive celebration penalty = STUPIDITY. Why?? Can we act, like we have been there??
Offensive Pass Interference = Aggravating. Takes 6 off the board.
Allowing kickoff return for Touch. Inexcusable. See celebration penalty above.
Blocking in the back on a 34 yard punt return = Game changer. Guess where Dallas ended up, and WHERE the pick was subsequently thrown?????
Jenkins Pass Interference penalty = Killer.

There was also the flag that was picked up, when Whitten got the big gainer. Bennett was originally flagged, but later picked up. Whew.

SO, get the penalties and KO team issues resolved, and we MIGHT be on to something.

Offense moved the ball, keeping our D off the field as much. That was encouraging. The run game MUST improve.

[slcdragonfan]

Well, they lost.

HOWEVER, I THINK the team is getting better. They actually looked pretty good, for a change. A couple of plays the other way, and they win this game, in this building.

Excessive celebration penalty = STUPIDITY. Why?? Can we act, like we have been there??
Offensive Pass Interference = Aggravating. Takes 6 off the board.
Allowing kickoff return for Touch. Inexcusable. See celebration penalty above.
Blocking in the back on a 34 yard punt return = Game changer. Guess where Dallas ended up, and WHERE the pick was subsequently thrown?????
Jenkins Pass Interference penalty = Killer.

There was also the flag that was picked up, when Whitten got the big gainer. Bennett was originally flagged, but later picked up. Whew.

SO, get the penalties and KO team issues resolved, and we MIGHT be on to something.

Offense moved the ball, keeping our D off the field as much. That was encouraging. The run game MUST improve.

The past two game Jenkins has been a liability. Maybe the Cowboys can get some of those DB's that UT has.

[SLC93]

I preached for most of last season that Jerry needed to bring in Shanahan. It fell of deaf ears and was mocked by some. I realize Washington is a .500 team but look what they're doing with 1/3 of the talent.

[su4c]

IF there was some sort of assurance that Jerry would step aside and let the HC and his staff do what they're paid to, then my short list of coaches would include Jim Harbaugh, Brian Schottenheimer, Leslie Frazier, and possibly Gruden.

[SLC93]

The past two game Jenkins has been a liability. Maybe the Cowboys can get some of those DB's that UT has.

Jenkins, though, isn't the type of kid I'm worried about, long term. He plays a hard and aggressive style. As a corner that's gonna come back on you sometimes. I would venture to guess he'll be fine.

This team simply has no discipline and it's costing them every week.

This team is also feeling the pain of letting go of several of it's special teams performers from the last few years. It's now cost them two weeks in a row.

This team is crippled by and over rated and inconsistent offensive coordinator. It costs them most every week. Look at the Colts. They run the simplest offense in the league. It's little secret what they will do. Romo is no Manning but that's no the difference. The difference is in the execution. They are crisp and keep a tempo. Garret has no identity and too often fails to ever look up from his clipboard. Indy has less offensive talent than Dallas. Every week they insert some no name that plays a huge role in a win. Dallas struggles in they have a player dinged, let alone out.

[SLC93]

IF there was some sort of assurance that Jerry would step aside and let the HC and his staff do what they're paid to, then my short list of coaches would include Jim Harbaugh, Brian Schottenheimer, Leslie Frazier, and possibly Gruden.

If that were the case and it was considered to be fact, every major coach out there wouldn't mind this job. Talented roster and an owner that will spend. That's all a coach could ask for. Gruden's time in Tampa, to me, wasn't as impressive as his time in Oakland, despite the SB win. It made me skeptical of him just a bit.

[CCCSportsFan]

From ESPN's Mike and Mike show this morning… “The Cowboys now have more penalties for excessive celebrations after touchdowns than they do wins”

[Favpack]

From ESPN's Mike and Mike show this morning… “The Cowboys now have more penalties for excessive celebrations after touchdowns than they do wins”

:notworthy

On a more serious note - what has happened to Felix Jones? 24 touches for 79 yards. The longest run from scrimmage yesterday was 6 yards.

[SLC93]

From ESPN's Mike and Mike show this morning… “The Cowboys now have more penalties for excessive celebrations after touchdowns than they do wins”

Another example of the inability of this team to really focus. Just one week after an excessive celebration penalty helped lose a game, they do it again.

[E-Vol-ution]

Perhaps JJ will fully pass the torch to Stephen the way Steinbrenner did with his son.

[SLC93]

:notworthy

On a more serious note - what has happened to Felix Jones? 24 touches for 79 yards. The longest run from scrimmage yesterday was 6 yards.

Two things. The Viking defense, in the front 7, is still quite formiddable. aside from that, running the same 2 plays to the kid over and over might have had something to do with that formiddable defense bottling him up a tad. His averages per touch are still quite healthy. I think the weight he put on has hindered him a tad. That's the Cowboys fault for pushing it. I know he's been nicked up over the course of his short career but he never even missed a practice at Arkansas. Being injured and being injury prone are two different things. You shouldn't change what makes a back fundamentally special. You should just ride them until they are done and find another one. Be smart as much as you can with regards to workload but ride that guy, seriously.

[SLC93]

Perhaps JJ will fully pass the torch to Stephen the way Steinbrenner did with his son.

We could only be so lucky. Stephen Jones is very well regarded by his peers. The day he takes over is the day the Cowboys will take on a classic structure. Stephen will act as President. He will hire a GM to work with and put a strong coach in place. He's all of Jerry's strengths without any of the ego.

[su4c]

We could only be so lucky. Stephen Jones is very well regarded by his peers. The day he takes over is the day the Cowboys will take on a classic structure. Stephen will act as President. He will hire a GM to work with and put a strong coach in place. He's all of Jerry's strengths without any of the ego.

Just imagine the things Stephen could do with this team RIGHT NOW. Once this window closes, it may be awhile before we ever have the pieces we currently have, and I don't think the next go-round's squad will be as overall loaded as this one.

[SLC93]

Just imagine the things Stephen could do with this team RIGHT NOW. Once this window closes, it may be awhile before we ever have the pieces we currently have, and I don't think the next go-round's squad will be as overall loaded as this one.

No doubt. Our only real hope is that Jones will bite it a little and hire a great coach to harvest this talent.

From a personnel standpoint, Dallas is fine. All of their young talent and "star" players are locked in for several years. The line needs to be rebuilt. It needed to start two seasons ago but didn't. That aside the roster should be prime for a few more seasons. The issue is that windows in football are often short. When you have the perfect mix of young, prime and veteran players your organization has to be structured so that it can strike.

[TexasRed6x]

Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale
a tale of a fateful trip,
that started down in San Antone,
aboard this tiny ship.
The owner was a mighty business' man,
...the head coach brave but somewhat unsure,
Fifty Three players set off that day,
for a sixteen game tour,
a sixteen game tour.
The season started getting rough,
their super bowl plans were tossed.
If not for the courage of the fearless fans
the Cowboys would be lost.
The Cowboys would be lost.
The ship aground on the shore
of this uncharted last place isle
with Coach Cupcake,
Romo too.
A millionaire and his sons,
a youtube star,
MBIII and Coach Opie,
here on Jerry's Isle.

LMFAO! :D

[TexasRed6x]

I just heard the Cowboys have a new player, Yellow Flag and are interested in trading him to the Patriots for their best player...Discipline. Unfortunately the Cowboys weren't willing to pay his contract. Discipline was asking for Hard Work and Commitment and the 'boys aren't ready to spend that type of effort yet. *****Deep Sigh******

:D

[JMSFan]

I preached for most of last season that Jerry needed to bring in Shanahan. It fell of deaf ears and was mocked by some. I realize Washington is a .500 team but look what they're doing with 1/3 of the talent.

i know I gave you a hard time about it, but only because I knew if Shanahan had any other option than Dallas, he would go elsewhere.

[toonman]

I can only see the Cowboys winning 6 games total with season and these are as follows :-

@ Houston
GIANTS
JACKSONVILLE
DETROIT
WASHINGTON
@ Arizona

with losses to the following :-

@ Green Bay
@ N.Y. Giants
NEW ORLEANS
@ Indianapolis
PHIILADELPHIA
@ Philadelphia

Season Record 6-10

Wade is fired.

[Pearland1]

The Giants beat them twice last year. They will beat them again come Monday night. I predicted Romo will be knock out of the game.

[KLH75287]

Greatness!!!

just sit right back and you'll hear a tale
a tale of a fateful trip,
that started down in san antone,
aboard this tiny ship.
The owner was a mighty business' man,
...the head coach brave but somewhat unsure,
fifty three players set off that day,
for a sixteen game tour,
a sixteen game tour.
The season started getting rough,
their super bowl plans were tossed.
If not for the courage of the fearless fans
the cowboys would be lost.
The cowboys would be lost.
The ship aground on the shore
of this uncharted last place isle
with coach cupcake,
romo too.
A millionaire and his sons,
a youtube star,
mbiii and coach opie,
here on jerry's isle.

Lmfao! :d

[Maroondog]

Cowboys continue to astound me. Just when you think they can't get any worse, they do.

Now we have 38 year old Kitna riding in on his white horse to save the franchise. Jerry remains optimistic. :rofl:

[TexasRed6x]

Cowboys continue to astound me. Just when you think they can't get any worse, they do.

Now we have 38 year old Kitna riding in on his white horse to save the franchise. Jerry remains optimistic. :rofl:

Thus is why Jerry is a total moron!! He is nothing but stupidity

[TexasRed6x]

How bout them Cowboys?? Oh wait...thats right...THEY SUCK!!! :D

[LR46]

NO coaching
NO play calling
NO D-Backs
NO O-line
NO running game
NO Barber ( a shell of himself)
NO Jones (looks like a wussie)
NO QB (but that really doesn't matter)

NO Team

AWESOME . . . COWBOYS REALLY DO SUCK!!!
Go Rangers, Go Trinity!!! :yes:

Oh yes, if there's any worse team out there just play Dallas and you will get well in a hurry.

[toonman]

Apart from Detroit, who else on the schedule can the Cowboys win against.

2-14 is looking very realisitic now and a high draft pick.

[twcpfan1]

Did McGee get any PT?

[mojotrain]

Since 1960 I have never watched a pro football game that The cowboys were not involved in. So if I'm a fan at all I'm a cowboyfan. The past several years it seems like in the first quarter of every game I can see how it will play out so I turn them off. Most often I am right.

Now, this season as I view their indifference I continue to watch in hopes the other teams completly humble them. Am I the only one with those feelings? Anyhow as of 10 minutes ago I've spent my last minute with them this season.

They need to close the palace and move these imposters over to the cotton bowl.

[mojotrain]

NO coaching
NO play calling
NO D-Backs
NO O-line
NO running game
NO Barber ( a shell of himself)
NO Jones (looks like a wussie)
NO QB (but that really doesn't matter)

NO Team

AWESOME . . . COWBOYS REALLY DO SUCK!!!
Go Rangers, Go Trinity!!! :yes:

Oh yes, if there's any worse team out there just play Dallas and you will get well in a hurry.

and now no recievers.

[Maroondog]

Since 1960 I have never watched a pro football game that The cowboys were not involved in. So if I'm a fan at all I'm a cowboyfan. The past several years it seems like in the first quarter of every game I can see how it will play out so I turn them off. Most often I am right.

Now, this season as I view their indifference I continue to watch in hopes the other teams completly humble them. Am I the only one with those feelings? Anyhow as of 10 minutes ago I've spent my last minute with them this season.

They need to close the palace and move these imposters over to the cotton bowl.

Hate to use the term underachievers, but that is exactly what they are. They absolutely cannot overcome any adversity at all. Indifference indeed, and it is at every position including coaching.

Unfortunately as I have posted over and over, there will be no changes regardless of who is HC, assistants, etc. as long as Jerry remains in charge of football operations.

[drgnbkr]

They are lacking at QB but the defense is all there and have no excuses...They flat out don't care!

[CCCSportsFan]

They are lacking at QB but the defense is all there and have no excuses...They flat out don't care!

I really wish I could agrue with you on this, but you are 100% correct :mad:

[mojotrain]

Hate to use the term underachievers, but that is exactly what they are. They absolutely cannot overcome any adversity at all. Indifference indeed, and it is at every position including coaching.

Unfortunately as I have posted over and over, there will be no changes regardless of who is HC, assistants, etc. as long as Jerry remains in charge of football operations.

You hit this sucker right in the gas tank!

[mojotrain]

They are lacking at QB but the defense is all there and have no excuses...They flat out don't care!

Your closer to it than I but we now have lost with all QBs. Is that what you mean?

[Favpack]

Don't think you fire Wade mid-season unless you just make Campo the interim.

[CCCSportsFan]

Don't think you fire Wade mid-season unless you just make Campo the interim.

Unfortunately I think you are right. Because realistically you can't make the RHG the interim coach after his performance to date...

[ktCarl]

Wow, the Cowboys really do suck. They played like they have already packed it in this season. Well, they beat the Texans.

[E-Vol-ution]

Not looking good, not at all.

[Dawg Fan]

Heard a reporter say that Jones told him he has never fired a coach in the middle of the season. Jones says that there are only 33 practices left this year and nothing a new coach could do to help the season. You see, here is where I just shake my head and say how the hell did this man get rich? I mean why wouldn't we want a guy to come in to see what we have and get ready for the next season. This season is done and everybody and their dog knows Phillips is a lame duck coach and if we were keeping him because of his defensive coordinating ability, I think today took care of that need. The team is not playing for him, he has completely lost them and you can't fire all the players. No Jerry, now is the time to bring someone in to evaluate our talent and our needs for the next draft and free agency. I don't know any Cowboy fan holding out hope for this team the rest of the year....none. I talked to a friend earlier in the week and he said he was going to the jacksonville game and I asked him if he had good seats. He told me no but he figured that he could go to the stadium and find some on the ground. LOL

I have been a fan for over 40 years and this is perhaps the most embarrassing season I have ever seen. They have had bad seasons before but had little or no talent. I could just imagine if Shanahan would have come to Dallas with all this potential. Thanks Jerry for completely destroying football season for me. Not sure how you think you can fill that monstrosity of a stadium with a worst in the NFL team playing in it.:o

[DiamondJ2]

On paper the Cowboys have the talent, but in reality the Cowgirls have the better moves.

[biggolfdad]

When I thought the Cowboys could not get any worse, they just proved me wrong today..
:rofl:

:heli:

:rolleyes:

[hoo2ers]

Heard a reporter say that Jones told him he has never fired a coach in the middle of the season. Jones says that there are only 33 practices left this year and nothing a new coach could do to help the season. You see, here is where I just shake my head and say how the hell did this man get rich? I mean why wouldn't we want a guy to come in to see what we have and get ready for the next season.

Who would come into this mess that is not currently coaching or in the booth. If any coach is currently employeed, doubtful they would leave this late in the season to take over this disaster. If the coach is currently unemployed, then he probably stinks or is under network contract and stinks. This season is a wash regardless, and afraid Wade is the man till the end. Then one must also realize also that even after Wade is gone, Jerry will still be there, and afraid he ain't going anywhere.

[Pearland1]

The cowboys play my Giants in 2 weeks I can't wait!!! Open season on Kitna!!!!

[SLC93]

Apart from Detroit, who else on the schedule can the Cowboys win against.

2-14 is looking very realisitic now and a high draft pick.

This is precisely what I think. I think they may luck into another along the way but I dont see them finishing any better than 3-13.

I'm actually praying for the flame out. Let em burn. The brighter the better. When they become the biggest disappointment in NFL history Jerry will be forced to bring in a real staff. That staff will inherit a team with a ton of talent and the first or second pick in every round of the draft. An embarassed JOnes is the best thing we can hope for.

[SLC93]

Did McGee get any PT?

They cant play that card til later in the season. Besides, how is a raw prospect gonna show or do anythng behind an oline that stinks with a run game that is nonexistent and a defense that has quit?

[SLC93]

They are lacking at QB but the defense is all there and have no excuses...They flat out don't care!

Which is the biggest reason why Phillips should be fired and the strongest indicator they have already quit on him. His unit is mostly healthy and is flat awful.

[SLC93]

Don't think you fire Wade mid-season unless you just make Campo the interim.

The only reason you dont fire wade in season, outside of monetary one, is because there is no viable interim on staff. Garret's offense is a sloppy as Phillips defense is uninspired. Campo's secondary is a wreck and he never managed better than 5-11 as a hc. The backs dont run and the receivers dont catch so those coaches are out the window. This is precisely why I was all for having Dan Reeves on staff and bringing in Dom Capers to run the defense after we let Stewart go as DC. Aside from their strength and knowledge they would have provided options. Jerry has none due to the collapse of his current system,

[twcpfan1]

The only reason you dont fire wade in season, outside of monetary one, is because there is no viable interim on staff. Garret's offense is a sloppy as Phillips defense is uninspired. Campo's secondary is a wreck and he never managed better than 5-11 as a hc. The backs dont run and the receivers dont catch so those coaches are out the window. This is precisely why I was all for having Dan Reeves on staff and bringing in Dom Capers to run the defense after we let Stewart go as DC. Aside from their strength and knowledge they would have provided options. Jerry has none due to the collapse of his current system,

Things were rough all around at Arlington yesterday huh? Cowboys, Rangers. Oh boy..

[SLC93]

Heard a reporter say that Jones told him he has never fired a coach in the middle of the season. Jones says that there are only 33 practices left this year and nothing a new coach could do to help the season. You see, here is where I just shake my head and say how the hell did this man get rich? I mean why wouldn't we want a guy to come in to see what we have and get ready for the next season. This season is done and everybody and their dog knows Phillips is a lame duck coach and if we were keeping him because of his defensive coordinating ability, I think today took care of that need. The team is not playing for him, he has completely lost them and you can't fire all the players. No Jerry, now is the time to bring someone in to evaluate our talent and our needs for the next draft and free agency. I don't know any Cowboy fan holding out hope for this team the rest of the year....none. I talked to a friend earlier in the week and he said he was going to the jacksonville game and I asked him if he had good seats. He told me no but he figured that he could go to the stadium and find some on the ground. LOL

I have been a fan for over 40 years and this is perhaps the most embarrassing season I have ever seen. They have had bad seasons before but had little or no talent. I could just imagine if Shanahan would have come to Dallas with all this potential. Thanks Jerry for completely destroying football season for me. Not sure how you think you can fill that monstrosity of a stadium with a worst in the NFL team playing in it.:o

I hear you. I really do. In defense of Jones, however, this just isn't how it works in the NFL. No proven coaches are hired in season. The job always goes interim, always, and very rarely does that person become the actual hire. Football is too involved and systems are too complicated to do a mid season change. Further complicating the issues is a looning lockout. Jerry could be paying a big name to sit and watch film becuase there won't be any players at his disposal. What JOnes needs to be doing in using the next two months to put his plan in place so that the moment the season ends he can enact it.

[SLC93]

Things were rough all around at Arlington yesterday huh? Cowboys, Rangers. Oh boy..

True but, at least with the Rangers, their effort and passion are never questioned. And they are playing in the World Series, not collapsing after spending an offseason celebrating a single, playoff win.:yes:

[E-Vol-ution]

The cowboys play my Giants in 2 weeks I can't wait!!! Open season on Kitna!!!!

The game means nothing except a possible division win.
Nothing monumental at this stage.
I really think the Cowboys have nothing left except to play the spoiler.
If they can get up for anything, it had better be playing the Giants competitive.
I think it's time JJ lets them all know they are expendable.

[Dawg Fan]

The cowboys play my Giants in 2 weeks I can't wait!!! Open season on Kitna!!!!

I don't care what the score is as long as they knock manning out for the season, that would be good for me:heli:

[Dawg Fan]

I hear you. I really do. In defense of Jones, however, this just isn't how it works in the NFL. No proven coaches are hired in season. The job always goes interim, always, and very rarely does that person become the actual hire. Football is too involved and systems are too complicated to do a mid season change. Further complicating the issues is a looning lockout. Jerry could be paying a big name to sit and watch film becuase there won't be any players at his disposal. What JOnes needs to be doing in using the next two months to put his plan in place so that the moment the season ends he can enact it.

I really think that Phillips either resigns or gets the boot and Garrett is promoted for the rest of the season. Phillips is nothing but a negative and there is really no way of changing that. I do feel sorry for the man because I know he wants so desperately to win but he just doesn't have the right demeanor to be a head coach in the NFL. Lets find out what Garrett can do as the head man, what do we have to lose now?

[JMSFan]

I really think that Phillips either resigns or gets the boot and Garrett is promoted for the rest of the season. Phillips is nothing but a negative and there is really no way of changing that. I do feel sorry for the man because I know he wants so desperately to win but he just doesn't have the right demeanor to be a head coach in the NFL. Lets find out what Garrett can do as the head man, what do we have to lose now?

Garrett isnt head coach material yet.

[Maroondog]

Phillips should be fired now and Jerry needs to start sending the message to the players about how little job security there is.

An interim coach would neither hurt nor help the team. Its not like they will win a bunch of games staying status quo anyway.

Jerry needs to accept the fact that the season is over. Start getting ready for next year NOW.

[SV61]

Phillips should be fired now and Jerry needs to start sending the message to the players about how little job security there is.

An interim coach would neither hurt nor help the team. Its not like they will win a bunch of games staying status quo anyway.

Jerry needs to accept the fact that the season is over. Start getting ready for next year NOW.

That was something I said, as soon as Romo got hurt. Let's find a new coach, now. Let's not wait for the off season. Let's get started now. Let's shake some stuff up, NOW.

The only problem with all of this. Who you gonna get at this time of year?? Cowher? No. Who, then?? Dungy?? No. Some as yet unamed College coach of the year??? Still early.

[Maroondog]

That was something I said, as soon as Romo got hurt. Let's find a new coach, now. Let's not wait for the off season. Let's get started now. Let's shake some stuff up, NOW.

The only problem with all of this. Who you gonna get at this time of year?? Cowher? No. Who, then?? Dungy?? No. Some as yet unamed College coach of the year??? Still early.

Naw, they won't find their next coach right now, but its a good opportunity to see if Jason is the boy wonder they thought he was. After all, he is the next head coach in waiting.

Turn it over to Campo or whomever. Just shake it up at least for the remainder of the season.

[SLC93]

I really think that Phillips either resigns or gets the boot and Garrett is promoted for the rest of the season. Phillips is nothing but a negative and there is really no way of changing that. I do feel sorry for the man because I know he wants so desperately to win but he just doesn't have the right demeanor to be a head coach in the NFL. Lets find out what Garrett can do as the head man, what do we have to lose now?

I agree 100% but I do not want to give Jerry any reason for hope. My worst fear is that Garrett takes over ad they win a few. I know that sounds silly but Garrett is not the answer. We've got four years of evidence that we can derive that conclusion from. Should he experience any success he becomes a viable option for Jerry to continue along his current course. To me, that is unacceptable.

[SLC93]

Garrett isnt head coach material yet.

Because of his inability to adjust, learn from his mistakes or stamp a true identity on his offenses I just cant see him getting there. Few coordinators have the freedom he has so he can't blame his failures on being restricted by his hc or organization.

[SLC93]

Put Paul Pasqualini in charge. He has hc experience and coordinated a 3-4 defense in Miami last year. Let him ride out the year and then conduct your search.

[mojotrain]

Garrett isnt head coach material yet.


ditto.

[mojotrain]

That was something I said, as soon as Romo got hurt. Let's find a new coach, now. Let's not wait for the off season. Let's get started now. Let's shake some stuff up, NOW.

The only problem with all of this. Who you gonna get at this time of year?? Cowher? No. Who, then?? Dungy?? No. Some as yet unamed College coach of the year??? Still early.

I hadn't thought of Dungy but I would try to put him on a short list whenever it comes up.

[E-Vol-ution]

I don't care what the score is as long as they knock manning out for the season, that would be good for me:heli:

Be careful what you wish for........with Kitna and Mcgee back there.
Both could be gone before the end of the Giants game.

[SLC93]

I hadn't thought of Dungy but I would try to put him on a short list whenever it comes up.

Dungy will not coach in the NFL again. You can mark that down. He's moved onto the next chaprter of his life.

[warbird00]

Garrett isnt head coach material yet.


neither is wade Phillips lol. I think you have to get rid of wade, and soon. He's just sitting there as it is. Team isnt responding, and he isnt changing. If for no other reason then to say you're no longer going to put up with this. Not for one season, not for one month, not for one week, not for ONE MORE GAME. You arent going to get a great coach midseason usually, but whats the worst that could happen if Garrent or Campo where interm head coach? The team would lose? They'd look embarassing? We are there. You cant get much worse then what we have been seeing from this team, and the quickest, best way to do that is to really shake a team at its core. I'd send a few high profile players packing too right along with Phillips. Bring some up from the practice team and see who you've got deep down in the roster. Each of the players, for what they are paid, should expect to play hard and with heart every play because more then any almost any other sport, more then any other team, there are a ton of people willing to give everything they are to make this team. the first thing you learn about football its a team sport. No one person is bigger then the team, and no one person should be immune from being cut for subpar performance week after week.

That was something I said, as soon as Romo got hurt. Let's find a new coach, now. Let's not wait for the off season. Let's get started now. Let's shake some stuff up, NOW.

The only problem with all of this. Who you gonna get at this time of year?? Cowher? No. Who, then?? Dungy?? No. Some as yet unamed College coach of the year??? Still early.


Thats interesting, because in a thread last week, after Romo's injury, you came on and made the statement that the defense "isnt that far off." It was in the context of a discussion about Phillips and his coaching. Im interested to hear what you think after seeing his "not that far off defense" against a pretty bad Jaguar offense.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Man...I knew Tony was/is a very important part of this team but, when he went down, this team absolutely shut it down, tucked their tails between their legs and ran for cover. This entire team quit when they lost him.

[99cujo]

Quitters......my boyz just quit on us & still gettin paid.I wish that I can quit & still get paid

[SLC93]

Man...I knew Tony was/is a very important part of this team but, when he went down, this team absolutely shut it down, tucked their tails between their legs and ran for cover. This entire team quit when they lost him.

They did the same thing in 2008.

All this season proves is that last year's finish was the mirage. If you remove the last few weeks and the play off win from 09 from the equation, how do you really feel about Dallas from 2008-2010? Wade and his entire staff should have been gone after 44-6 in Philly, period.

This team is overhyped, overvalued, undercoached and has no identitiy due to the lack of structure. This is what happens when years of patching and denial all come to head at the same time. The shoddy damn burst right on Jerry.

[Maroondog]

neither is wade Phillips lol. I think you have to get rid of wade, and soon. He's just sitting there as it is. Team isnt responding, and he isnt changing. If for no other reason then to say you're no longer going to put up with this. Not for one season, not for one month, not for one week, not for ONE MORE GAME. You arent going to get a great coach midseason usually, but whats the worst that could happen if Garrent or Campo where interm head coach? The team would lose? They'd look embarassing? We are there. You cant get much worse then what we have been seeing from this team, and the quickest, best way to do that is to really shake a team at its core. I'd send a few high profile players packing too right along with Phillips. Bring some up from the practice team and see who you've got deep down in the roster. Each of the players, for what they are paid, should expect to play hard and with heart every play because more then any almost any other sport, more then any other team, there are a ton of people willing to give everything they are to make this team. the first thing you learn about football its a team sport. No one person is bigger then the team, and no one person should be immune from being cut for subpar performance week after week.




Thats interesting, because in a thread last week, after Romo's injury, you came on and made the statement that the defense "isnt that far off." It was in the context of a discussion about Phillips and his coaching. Im interested to hear what you think after seeing his "not that far off defense" against a pretty bad Jaguar offense.

My thoughts exactly. :notworthy

Almost like the Herschel trade to Minn. where nearly everyone crapped their pants. What was Dallas to do? Lose as many games with Herschel as without him? Team need a serious shakeup and needs it NOW.

[smw358]

First of all in order for Jones to fire the head coach.....he would have to fire himself. Jerry is a great owner....the only problem is he forgets he is the owner. His choice for head coach is a figurehead only. As I recall....he did not hire the OC.....Jones did. So, correct me if I am wrong, how can Phillips be coach. The players know this. Jerry Jones needs to apologize to the players, the fans and to the coach himself. He needs to excuse himself from trying to run this team day to day and let the head coach be a head coach. Then and only then should he fire Wade. Jones could never get a coach that had any balls.....they would tell him to shove it quick. Any coach worth his salt would tell him it's my way or no way. Do you honestly think Wade can do this? Not by a long shot. If Wade does not have firing ability he isn't the one in control. He is the scapegoat....and for this Jones needs to apologize to him. Let the head coach do his job....give him complete control....hiring and firing. If Wade does not produce. Replace him with a better coach.

[SV61]

Thats interesting, because in a thread last week, after Romo's injury, you came on and made the statement that the defense "isnt that far off." It was in the context of a discussion about Phillips and his coaching. Im interested to hear what you think after seeing his "not that far off defense" against a pretty bad Jaguar offense.

Touche! Appreciate the opp to let me speak my piece!

Let me start with I think Phillips is still a good defensive coach. I don't think that Phillips has EVER been a good head coach. I'll continue.

And, I will stand by that statement from last week about the defense. This week? Not so much. And it goes deeper than Offense versus defense versus special teams.

Yes, it's true that Dallas gave Jacksonville a short field on Sunday. Four turnovers. That is murder on a defense. But that isn't what I saw as the final straw on Sunday. That is not an excuse for the poor showing the Dallas defense had on Sunday.

There are a couple of other things here at work now. Dallas' Offense DID outgain Jville. AND Dallas DID have the ball for more plays than the Jags. However, Dallas ran the ball 22 times for 50 yards. That is pretty sad. But, what I ultimately saw, that killed this team:

But, what I saw Sunday, was the team quitting. A team of men, that stopped believing in one another. A team, that cashed it in, for there seemed to be absolutley NO leadership. None.

So, have to rectify the Leadership first and foremost. That starts with the Head Coach. It really starts with the owner/Head Coach relationship. Jerry had better find someone that can stand up to him, and then Jerry had better be prepared to have someone stand up to him

[Maroondog]

Wednesday and Phillips is still the coach. 2010 and Jones is still the owner. :(

[slcdragonfan]

As an ex-Oilers fan, I never thought I would see this kind of stuff about the Dallas Cowboys....enjoy:


DPS Cracking Down on Speeders Heading to Dallas

Texas State Police are cracking down on Speeders
The Texas State Police are cracking down on speeders heading into Dallas.
For the first offense, they give you 2 Dallas Cowboy tickets.
If you get stopped a second time, they make you use them.

Q. What do you call 47 millionaires around a TV watching the Super Bowl?
A. The Dallas Cowboys

Q. What do the Dallas Cowboys and Billy Graham have in common?
A. They both can make 70,000 people stand up and yell "Jesus Christ".

Q. How do you keep a Dallas Cowboy out of your yard?
A. Put up a goal post.

Q. What do you call a Dallas Cowboy with a Super Bowl ring?
A. Old

Q. What's the difference between the Dallas Cowboys and a dollar bill?
A. You can still get four quarters out of a dollar bill.

Q. How many Dallas Cowboys does it take to win a Super Bowl?
A. Nobody remembers.

Q. What do the Cowboys and a possums have in common?
A. Both play dead at home and get killed on the road!

[Dawg Fan]

As an ex-Oilers fan, I never thought I would see this kind of stuff about the Dallas Cowboys....enjoy:


DPS Cracking Down on Speeders Heading to Dallas

Texas State Police are cracking down on Speeders
The Texas State Police are cracking down on speeders heading into Dallas.
For the first offense, they give you 2 Dallas Cowboy tickets.
If you get stopped a second time, they make you use them.

Q. What do you call 47 millionaires around a TV watching the Super Bowl?
A. The Dallas Cowboys

Q. What do the Dallas Cowboys and Billy Graham have in common?
A. They both can make 70,000 people stand up and yell "Jesus Christ".

Q. How do you keep a Dallas Cowboy out of your yard?
A. Put up a goal post.

Q. What do you call a Dallas Cowboy with a Super Bowl ring?
A. Old

Q. What's the difference between the Dallas Cowboys and a dollar bill?
A. You can still get four quarters out of a dollar bill.

Q. How many Dallas Cowboys does it take to win a Super Bowl?
A. Nobody remembers.

Q. What do the Cowboys and a possums have in common?
A. Both play dead at home and get killed on the road!

Outstanding!!:rofl:

At least I don't have the stress this year about the Boys winning key games. I will probably live longer. Thank God for fantasy football!!!!!

[slcdragonfan]

Outstanding!!:rofl:

At least I don't have the stress this year about the Boys winning key games. I will probably live longer. Thank God for fantasy football!!!!!

We used to joke about putting 2 oiler tickets on our windshield when we went in to eat before a game, coming out and finding 2 more! :)

Same kind of stuff. It does take the pressure off, but for the 'Boys fans it is really sad as the expectations were so much different.

[Dawg Fan]

We used to joke about putting 2 oiler tickets on our windshield when we went in to eat before a game, coming out and finding 2 more! :)

Same kind of stuff. It does take the pressure off, but for the 'Boys fans it is really sad as the expectations were so much different.

I am serious about the lack of stress and I have found that I put too much effort into being such an over the top fan. This year turns out to be a good thing. It is much more fun rooting for my fantasy players. A friend of mine out here in Midland told me the week before the Jacksonville game that he was going and I asked him if he already had his tickets. He said he thought he would just go to the stadium and probably find some on the ground LOL.

The truth is that the team I really loved were the ones that played for Tom Landry and that is where I developed my desire to be a fan of the star. When Jerry came in and fired Landry, I knew right then he was the devil incarnate. Jimmy Johnson brought back some of the pride in the team but since he left it is just not the same and probably never will be.:(

[slcdragonfan]

I am serious about the lack of stress and I have found that I put too much effort into being such an over the top fan. This year turns out to be a good thing. It is much more fun rooting for my fantasy players. A friend of mine out here in Midland told me the week before the Jacksonville game that he was going and I asked him if he already had his tickets. He said he thought he would just go to the stadium and probably find some on the ground LOL.

The truth is that the team I really loved were the ones that played for Tom Landry and that is where I developed my desire to be a fan of the star. When Jerry came in and fired Landry, I knew right then he was the devil incarnate. Jimmy Johnson brought back some of the pride in the team but since he left it is just not the same and probably never will be.:(

LOL. We had another iteration in Bud Adams, but he wouldn't even pay his players well!
My Dad is a die-hard orangeblood T-shirt since the 1940's. In the past, I have been worried that he would have a heart attack during games. Seriously. This year? He has actually relaxed and lost a lot of stress, just chilled. Surprising to see that he has accepted what is for this year. Even when I tell him the Aggies will probably win! He is already doing his recruiting research for the following year...

W

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

As an ex-Oilers fan, I never thought I would see this kind of stuff about the Dallas Cowboys....enjoy:


DPS Cracking Down on Speeders Heading to Dallas

Texas State Police are cracking down on Speeders
The Texas State Police are cracking down on speeders heading into Dallas.
For the first offense, they give you 2 Dallas Cowboy tickets.
If you get stopped a second time, they make you use them.

Q. What do you call 47 millionaires around a TV watching the Super Bowl?
A. The Dallas Cowboys

Q. What do the Dallas Cowboys and Billy Graham have in common?
A. They both can make 70,000 people stand up and yell "Jesus Christ".

Q. How do you keep a Dallas Cowboy out of your yard?
A. Put up a goal post.

Q. What do you call a Dallas Cowboy with a Super Bowl ring?
A. Old

Q. What's the difference between the Dallas Cowboys and a dollar bill?
A. You can still get four quarters out of a dollar bill.

Q. How many Dallas Cowboys does it take to win a Super Bowl?
A. Nobody remembers.

Q. What do the Cowboys and a possums have in common?
A. Both play dead at home and get killed on the road!

:notworthyHilarious!

[Maroondog]

I am serious about the lack of stress and I have found that I put too much effort into being such an over the top fan. This year turns out to be a good thing. It is much more fun rooting for my fantasy players. A friend of mine out here in Midland told me the week before the Jacksonville game that he was going and I asked him if he already had his tickets. He said he thought he would just go to the stadium and probably find some on the ground LOL.

The truth is that the team I really loved were the ones that played for Tom Landry and that is where I developed my desire to be a fan of the star. When Jerry came in and fired Landry, I knew right then he was the devil incarnate. Jimmy Johnson brought back some of the pride in the team but since he left it is just not the same and probably never will be.:(

The good thing is I'll actually be shocked if this team wins a game. It's a win, win in that I can't be disappointed in losing since I expect it, and winning a game will simply be a bonus.

It's a hell of a way to view it, but the Jones ownership is such a sham that I've come to expect less and less from it.

[SLC93]

As an ex-Oilers fan, I never thought I would see this kind of stuff about the Dallas Cowboys....enjoy:


DPS Cracking Down on Speeders Heading to Dallas

Texas State Police are cracking down on Speeders
The Texas State Police are cracking down on speeders heading into Dallas.
For the first offense, they give you 2 Dallas Cowboy tickets.
If you get stopped a second time, they make you use them.

Q. What do you call 47 millionaires around a TV watching the Super Bowl?
A. The Dallas Cowboys

Q. What do the Dallas Cowboys and Billy Graham have in common?
A. They both can make 70,000 people stand up and yell "Jesus Christ".

Q. How do you keep a Dallas Cowboy out of your yard?
A. Put up a goal post.

Q. What do you call a Dallas Cowboy with a Super Bowl ring?
A. Old

Q. What's the difference between the Dallas Cowboys and a dollar bill?
A. You can still get four quarters out of a dollar bill.

Q. How many Dallas Cowboys does it take to win a Super Bowl?
A. Nobody remembers.

Q. What do the Cowboys and a possums have in common?
A. Both play dead at home and get killed on the road!


To be forwarded, daily ,to Mr. Jerry Jones, please.:rofl:

[Super B]

The Cowboys SUCK!

I really don't know what else to say.

[slcdragonfan]

The Cowboys SUCK!

I really don't know what else to say.

I scratched my eyes out in the third quarter so I wouldn't watch anymore. IT was like being a deer in the headlights, knowing what is coming but can't move. I have seen car wrecks that were much less gruesome.

It was that bad.

[mojotrain]

As an ex-Oilers fan, I never thought I would see this kind of stuff about the Dallas Cowboys....enjoy:


DPS Cracking Down on Speeders Heading to Dallas

Texas State Police are cracking down on Speeders
The Texas State Police are cracking down on speeders heading into Dallas.
For the first offense, they give you 2 Dallas Cowboy tickets.
If you get stopped a second time, they make you use them.

Q. What do you call 47 millionaires around a TV watching the Super Bowl?
A. The Dallas Cowboys

Q. What do the Dallas Cowboys and Billy Graham have in common?
A. They both can make 70,000 people stand up and yell "Jesus Christ".

Q. How do you keep a Dallas Cowboy out of your yard?
A. Put up a goal post.

Q. What do you call a Dallas Cowboy with a Super Bowl ring?
A. Old

Q. What's the difference between the Dallas Cowboys and a dollar bill?
A. You can still get four quarters out of a dollar bill.

Q. How many Dallas Cowboys does it take to win a Super Bowl?
A. Nobody remembers.

Q. What do the Cowboys and a possums have in common?
A. Both play dead at home and get killed on the road!

Thats really good!:rofl:

[JMSFan]

I just dont think Ive ever seen a team completely come apart like this one has in the past 3 weeks.

[Dawg Fan]

wonder what " I have never fired a coach in the middle of the season" is going to do now? As freaking stupid as he is his ego right now is getting destroyed and if there is anything more important than the Dallas cowboys, it is his ego.

[SLC93]

I just dont think Ive ever seen a team completely come apart like this one has in the past 3 weeks.

I'm telling you this team will go down as the biggest disappointment in NFL history and they'll do it in volcanic fashion.

Name another team as hyped with serious aspirations for the SB that came out and won 1 game all season. Detroit isn't even a win for this squad. They're actually playing hard and improving. They just haven't learned to close, yet.

[E-Vol-ution]

I had not said it....ever, but will have to now.
The Cowboys really do suck.:(
This team does nothing for the highly expected rivalry I anticipated with my Giants.
There's no fun in this one.

[SV61]

Said it before, Say it again.

AS SOON as Romo went down, coaching changes should have started. The offense wasn't very good when Romo went down (that is WHY he went down), and once Kitna came in, their offense become terrible. Now, since the defense is on the field SO very much, there are no surprises on defense anymore. Or, maybe it's because the coaching staff doens't care.

Now, back to the original question. Who do you get to coach, midway through the season? Whoever will be viewed as either a) an interim solution, or b) a homewrecker (you just DON'T take over a coaching job DURING the season).

Dallas needs a head coach. Wade Phillips has NEVER been a head coach to me. I hope I'm wrong, but I see some of this in Kubiak. Both make fine coordinators, in the right environment.

And I still want to know, WHY in the world all the hype was on Dallas this season? They won ONE PO game last season, and then got trounced. They didn't shore up any gaping holes (O-line, DBs) in the off season.

[Maroondog]

Unlike most of you, I did my due dilligence and went down to Lowe's to purchase some fogger. I was able to fumigate my TV so that the residual damage would be minimal. :D

How long will Jones endure the humiliation? He MUST make a move now. It won't matter for the season, but at least it will give the appearance of having a pulse.

By the way as if you didn't know: Aaron Rodgers had 41 yards rushing. The Dallas Cowboys had 39.

It's as bad as it gets.

[SV61]

Unlike most of you, I did my due dilligence and went down to Lowe's to purchase some fogger. I was able to fumigate my TV so that the residual damage would be minimal. :D

How long will Jones endure the humiliation? He MUST make a move now. It won't matter for the season, but at least it will give the appearance of having a pulse.

By the way as if you didn't know: Aaron Rodgers had 41 yards rushing. The Dallas Cowboys had 39.

It's as bad as it gets.

Man, don't say that.

[slcdragonfan]

Man, don't say that.

What I was thinking.

2-3 today we will hear about a new coach or Jerry is crazy.

[Maroondog]

Now the red headed stranger gets to try his hand. If he's smart, he'll find someone else to call the plays ASAP.

That way, he can shift a lot of the blame instantly. :rofl:

[4th and 1]

Why not give Stephen Magee a chance. He looked good preseason, and I don't believe the team has any confidence in Kitna.

[SV61]

I honestly feel sorry for ANY QB back there right now. The Oline CAN be good, but without the ability to run, and the attitude of this team right now, the QB is gonna get kilt. I mean, it looks like the RBs don't know where to go to pick up a block, half the time.

[E-Vol-ution]

okay......Mrs E-Vol (a diehard Cowboy fan) just told me a joke.

A kid was reported running like his life was in danger down Collins in Arlington.
A police officer stopped the kid and asked what the problem was.
The kid told him he was running because his mother beat him.
The officer told him he'd take him to the station but the kid pleaded with him not to saying she'd beat him again.
The officer said he'd take him somewhere else, to his grandmother's or somewhere he'd he safe and the kid said his grandmother also beat him.
When the officer asked if there was anywhere else he could go and not be beaten the kid screamed that he was on his way there.......and to take him to Cowboy Stadium.

[Dawg Fan]

okay......Mrs E-Vol (a diehard Cowboy fan) just told me a joke.

A kid was reported running like his life was in danger down Collins in Arlington.
A police officer stopped the kid and asked what the problem was.
The kid told him he was running because his mother beat him.
The officer told him he'd take him to the station but the kid pleaded with him not to saying she'd beat him again.
The officer said he'd take him somewhere else, to his grandmother's or somewhere he'd he safe and the kid said his grandmother also beat him.
When the officer asked if there was anywhere else he could go and not be beaten the kid screamed that he was on his way there.......and to take him to Cowboy Stadium.

:rofl:

[JMSFan]

I had not said it....ever, but will have to now.
The Cowboys really do suck.:(
This team does nothing for the highly expected rivalry I anticipated with my Giants.
There's no fun in this one.

Unless Garrett is wanting McGee to have to finish the season, he better run the ball alot and protect Kitna this Sunday. Kitna is a statue in the pocket and the Giants will literally tee off on him.

[SLC93]

Why not give Stephen Magee a chance. He looked good preseason, and I don't believe the team has any confidence in Kitna.

You can't turn to him, just yet. He's too raw and playing with no run game and a suspect line will only amplify that. I expect him to get the last 2-3 games so the Boys can evaluate if they have something or if its time for a new project.

[Maroondog]

You could put Magee in just for laughs. You'd never know if he was any good since that trial by fire would ruin him forever, if he survived the beating.

[su4c]

McGee willl get put in eventually whether Garrett decides to or is forced to... Kitna will be lucky to make it past Tuck/Umenyiora and Suh, only to heal up and face Mathis/Freeney.

[SLC93]

McGee willl get put in eventually whether Garrett decides to or is forced to... Kitna will be lucky to make it past Tuck/Umenyiora and Suh, only to heal up and face Mathis/Freeney.

Don't forget the Saints, too. If Kitna is still standing in a month Garrett will have done better by him than he did for Romo.

[Maroondog]

Wednesday. Only 4 more days until the inaugural Garrett beatdown. :D

Can Jerry's Boys win this week due to some life support being administered by the coaching change or is it still a pipe dream?

[SLC93]

Wednesday. Only 4 more days until the inaugural Garrett beatdown. :D

Can Jerry's Boys win this week due to some life support being administered by the coaching change or is it still a pipe dream?

The Gints will throttle Dallas, imo. In addition to allow of our well documented issues we're now running out of dlinemen. NY is white hot on offense and Kitna may not make it through this one.

The part of the pipe dream that is cracking me up is how the media seems to be jumpin on how authoritative Garrett sounds. I even heard them playing sound bites from the 08 Hard Knocks. They do realize his performance was every bit as pathetic as Wades, right? They do realize he hasn't been the Golden Boy of league assistants since Sporano left, right? This is what we've been reduced to, getting wood because a hc speaks well.

[Maroondog]

The Gints will throttle Dallas, imo. In addition to allow of our well documented issues we're now running out of dlinemen. NY is white hot on offense and Kitna may not make it through this one.

The part of the pipe dream that is cracking me up is how the media seems to be jumpin on how authoritative Garrett sounds. I even heard them playing sound bites from the 08 Hard Knocks. They do realize his performance was every bit as pathetic as Wades, right? They do realize he hasn't been the Golden Boy of league assistants since Sporano left, right? This is what we've been reduced to, getting wood because a hc speaks well.

LOL. Yeah, I really can't see how the Boys can win unless the Giants somehow come up with an epic fail.

Lets see, OL can't block, DL scraping the bottom of the barrel, corner is a coward, safety is not a safety, QB is on medicare, coach is in diapers, owner in denial, what have I left out?

I am impressed the HC speaks well. Perhaps he can talk his way to a win or two. :rofl:

[E-Vol-ution]

Wednesday. Only 4 more days until the inaugural Garrett beatdown. :D

Can Jerry's Boys win this week due to some life support being administered by the coaching change or is it still a pipe dream?


No

[Maroondog]

OK, so how does the league get away with teams switching uniforms? :D

The Boys were so electrifying today they knocked out all the power in the stadium. (At least Jerry pays his light bill on time)

Either the Giants looked past Dallas, Garrett did make a difference or some of both. What say you?

I'm not at all convinced Dallas can even come close to sustaining this type of play, but stay tuned and find out.

[Dawg Fan]

How about them Cowgirls!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL:D


How about them giants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOLOLOLOL:rofl:

[slcdragonfan]

OMG, Where did the sucky Cowboys go?

Great game, missed the last 4 minutes or so, dang DVR!

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Going into today's game, all I wanted to see from the 'Boys was an effort. I just wanted to see what would happen if they atleast gave a full effort on every play, and I'll be damned! The offensive line showed up, and Barber looked determined everytime he ran. Felix looked like the Felix that we've been looking for all year! How about UNDRAFTED ROOKIE FREE AGENT Bryan McCann? Dez? And, a shoutout to Bradie James!

I'm not asking for a trip to the postseason! I just want to see them give a full effort from here on out. It's one thing when you get beat because, the other team was better and you made them earn it. But, it's another thing to get beat because you didn't give the effort. A full 100 percent is all I want!

[SLC93]

OK, so how does the league get away with teams switching uniforms? :D

The Boys were so electrifying today they knocked out all the power in the stadium. (At least Jerry pays his light bill on time)

Either the Giants looked past Dallas, Garrett did make a difference or some of both. What say you?

I'm not at all convinced Dallas can even come close to sustaining this type of play, but stay tuned and find out.

Garrett made a bit of a difference, I can admit to that. I don't hate the guy and, perhaps, he'll prove me wrong but he's been a part of this whole problem. I have a hard time believing he's now the solution. Where was all this impact the first 8 games? Remember he had full autonomy over the offense. With regards to coaching I think the change in the DC will prove to be more impactful. Wade had lost that group, period. Additional to that he was being far too stubborn with his scheme, specifically his obsession with laying man to man while sporting the worst set of safeties in the league and the shallowest cb depth chart around.

To me the bigger influences on the outcome were the Giants not being ready to play and the luck of the bounce. NY did not expect Dallas to put forth any sort of sustained effort and that's on their staff. Under Coughlin NY has won over 40 of their first half games. During the second half of the season under Coughlin they plummet to 20-28. They didn't execute and it led to my second point. For Dallas, they finally got some bounces. The defense that couldn't create a turnover gets multiple. The offense that couldn't break the big one did. The running back who lost his burst found it. The football gods smiled on them and they were ready to smile back.

[SLC93]

OMG, Where did the sucky Cowboys go?

Great game, missed the last 4 minutes or so, dang DVR!

I don't know but we need them back. I'll always pull for them but this season is over unless your banking on an 8 game win streak and a little luck at the end. That being the case every game they win costs them draft position and will serve to restore Jerry's ego and give him reason to justify his way for another season. I want to see them play hard and with passion, like they did today. I want to see clean games and evaluation of future talent. Aside from that I an not particularly hoping for victories. The team needs an influx of talent a highly positioned draft could provide and the best Jerry Jones is the one of the embarrassed and desperate variety.

[SLC93]

Going into today's game, all I wanted to see from the 'Boys was an effort. I just wanted to see what would happen if they atleast gave a full effort on every play, and I'll be damned! The offensive line showed up, and Barber looked determined everytime he ran. Felix looked like the Felix that we've been looking for all year! How about UNDRAFTED ROOKIE FREE AGENT Bryan McCann? Dez? And, a shoutout to Bradie James!

I'm not asking for a trip to the postseason! I just want to see them give a full effort from here on out. It's one thing when you get beat because, the other team was better and you made them earn it. But, it's another thing to get beat because you didn't give the effort. A full 100 percent is all I want!


Felix was running hard today. My hope is he's refocused and Garrett will free him now that Wade is gone and the status quo with it.

Mike Jenkins flat stuck his nose in some piles today. I think he's totally salvageable once you refocus him. He's far too young and talented to throw away like many were suggesting last week. I liked his rebound.

Martellus Bennet actually showed up and made an impact.

Dez is Dez. I love that kid's heart. He's flat fearless.

These four indicators give me some hope. We know the veterans that will be gone in a few months. What we need to know is if some of this enormously talented youth is going to blossom or fizzle. The above have the youth and talent to be core players for years to come. We have to get them going.

[SLC93]

Can't tell you how disappointed I am in Marion Barber. I own his jersey. Asked for it for Christmas after his rookie year. Remember the Barbarian? That dude was a selfless, battering ram of a rb. Then he inked his big deal and I havent seen him since. I bring this up because of the following piece of postgame information. Evidently the reason he didnt' start and only had 3 carries until the final possession is being reported as the following. Team Captain, Marion Barber, was the only Cowboy who defied Garrett's requirement for dress to and from games. The arse would not wear a shirt and tie. He's gone and I'll never wear that jersey again.

[Maroondog]

Can't believe its almost Thursday and we have had no breaking story out of Valley Ranch this week. I'm starting to get bored with this franchise. :heli:

[SLC93]

Can't believe its almost Thursday and we have had no breaking story out of Valley Ranch this week. I'm starting to get bored with this franchise. :heli:

I've been to mesmerized by Garrett's ability to speak with authority to comment this week. He's amazing.

[Maroondog]

Its a crying shame the Cowboys wasted half a season and are out of the playoff mix.

The past 4 weeks under Garrett have been a total surprise. They could easily be 4-0 under the interim. Any long term success is still unknown, but what has transpired has convince me I was correct that Phillips was not the guy to get it done.

Kind of amazing what 60 minutes of hard play by everyone can produce.

[SWMHebron]

Its a crying shame the Cowboys wasted half a season and are out of the playoff mix.

The past 4 weeks under Garrett have been a total surprise. They could easily be 4-0 under the interim. Any long term success is still unknown, but what has transpired has convince me I was correct that Phillips was not the guy to get it done.

Kind of amazing what 60 minutes of hard play by everyone can produce.

^^^

I just told Mr. SWM that at this point it would be hard to make the argument to replace Garrett.

[4th and 1]

Felix was running hard today. My hope is he's refocused and Garrett will free him now that Wade is gone and the status quo with it.

Mike Jenkins flat stuck his nose in some piles today. I think he's totally salvageable once you refocus him. He's far too young and talented to throw away like many were suggesting last week. I liked his rebound.

Martellus Bennet actually showed up and made an impact.

Dez is Dez. I love that kid's heart. He's flat fearless.
These four indicators give me some hope. We know the veterans that will be gone in a few months. What we need to know is if some of this enormously talented youth is going to blossom or fizzle. The above have the youth and talent to be core players for years to come. We have to get them going.

Dez likely out for the season - ankle fracture:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/12/dez-bryant-injury-cowboys/1

[SLC93]

^^^

I just told Mr. SWM that at this point it would be hard to make the argument to replace Garrett.

Like I said from the start, I'm not pulling againast him and I hope he proves me wrong. My core issue with him will always remain the same, though. Where was this Garrett this season, if not his entire career here in Dallas? I do not hold the defense and special teams against him, Those were not his areas. For the last 3 years he had had virtual autonomy over the offense. It was his show and the head coach didn't get in his way. Any issue we've had with the offense we knew exactly where to go to. And for three years he's been all over the map, coaching a penalty riddled unit that had little committment to the run, went lifeless inside the 20's and struggled to voercome adversity. His leadership produced that. why did his offense not reflect this strong, detailed oriented coach, the one we seem to be getting now that he has the top spot? I realize he couldn't change the culture or do certain things as the OC but his unit should have reflected this all along. So, is it an aberation? They are playing hard. That is for certain and that makes a huge difference at the professional level. I just wonder where this Garret was in 08 and the first half of 2010.

[Maroondog]

Like I said from the start, I'm not pulling againast him and I hope he proves me wrong. My core issue with him will always remain the same, though. Where was this Garrett this season, if not his entire career here in Dallas? I do not hold the defense and special teams against him, Those were not his areas. For the last 3 years he had had virtual autonomy over the offense. It was his show and the head coach didn't get in his way. Any issue we've had with the offense we knew exactly where to go to. And for three years he's been all over the map, coaching a penalty riddled unit that had little committment to the run, went lifeless inside the 20's and struggled to voercome adversity. His leadership produced that. why did his offense not reflect this strong, detailed oriented coach, the one we seem to be getting now that he has the top spot? I realize he couldn't change the culture or do certain things as the OC but his unit should have reflected this all along. So, is it an aberation? They are playing hard. That is for certain and that makes a huge difference at the professional level. I just wonder where this Garret was in 08 and the first half of 2010.

I can't disagree with you totally, however, things like players not in pads, lax workouts, etc. were also not Garrett's fault. Makes me think that there was a whole lot more going on behind the scenes or at least a give-a-s**t attitude permeating the entire team.
Garret's sucking offense may have been just another victim of the former head man and his non accountability of everyone. If a team is truly a reflection of their coaches personality then we may be on to something here.

I'm not ready to put Garrett in the HOF just yet, but I cannot help but wonder why or how are we seeing this much difference since the change. Something definitely happened.

[SWMHebron]

I can't disagree with you totally, however, things like players not in pads, lax workouts, etc. were also not Garrett's fault. Makes me think that there was a whole lot more going on behind the scenes or at least a give-a-s**t attitude permeating the entire team.
Garret's sucking offense may have been just another victim of the former head man and his non accountability of everyone. If a team is truly a reflection of their coaches personality then we may be on to something here.

I'm not ready to put Garrett in the HOF just yet, but I cannot help but wonder why or how are we seeing this much difference since the change. Something definitely happened.

They knew Garrett had no authority before so could easily blow him off. Granted under Jerry his authority is limited but obviously more than he had and they believe it.

[SLC93]

I can't disagree with you totally, however, things like players not in pads, lax workouts, etc. were also not Garrett's fault. Makes me think that there was a whole lot more going on behind the scenes or at least a give-a-s**t attitude permeating the entire team.
Garret's sucking offense may have been just another victim of the former head man and his non accountability of everyone. If a team is truly a reflection of their coaches personality then we may be on to something here.

I'm not ready to put Garrett in the HOF just yet, but I cannot help but wonder why or how are we seeing this much difference since the change. Something definitely happened.

I hear ya. I just have to wonder because aside from the pads thing and maybe being forced to ensure certain players had their ego's stroked, offensively all of his mantra should have been enforced and adhered to. Like I said, if it's a new day and he can prove it, I'm willing to let it play out. I'm just very, very cautious right now.

[SLC93]

They knew Garrett had no authority before so could easily blow him off. Granted under Jerry his authority is limited but obviously more than he had and they believe it.

That makes sense as the hc but I have a hard time believing he couldn't command the offensive group. Still, I would bet he told Jerry he would only accept the interim gig if he allowed him to really get after some things without his interference. Otherwise it would have just continued southbound and been a poor mark on his resume, hurting his potential for future openings.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

A couple of things I've noticed since Garrett has taken over;

1. The playcalling on offense has changed DRAMATICALLY! They're not predictable like they were before.

2. The stupid penalties have almost dissappeared!

Coincidence?

[slcdragonfan]

I think renaming the thread to "Cowboys Suck a Lot Less Nowadays" is appropriate. I have never seen such a turnaround in an NFL team in one season. Amazing. It isn't finished, and you can call it a fortunate sequence of events for Garrett, but it certainly appears right now that Coaching was a big part of the problem.

[Maroondog]

I think renaming the thread to "Cowboys Suck a Lot Less Nowadays" is appropriate. I have never seen such a turnaround in an NFL team in one season. Amazing. It isn't finished, and you can call it a fortunate sequence of events for Garrett, but it certainly appears right now that Coaching was a big part of the problem.

Things are looking better right now, but lets not get too giddy. They still screwed up an entire season needlessly.

Please see my amended title.

[slcdragonfan]

Things are looking better right now, but lets not get too giddy. They still screwed up an entire season needlessly.

"Cowboys Suck a Lot Less Nowadays" is giddy? :rofl:

[Maroondog]

"Cowboys Suck a Lot Less Nowadays" is giddy? :rofl:

It is if you are in the organization or a fan. :laugh

[SLC93]

A couple of things I've noticed since Garrett has taken over;

1. The playcalling on offense has changed DRAMATICALLY! They're not predictable like they were before.

2. The stupid penalties have almost dissappeared!

Coincidence?

But dont you still have to ask why this is? Garrett had complete control of the offensive playcalling and strategy. Where was this the first eight weeks? Also, why the increased discipline on the offensive side? Again, that was his unit.

[SLC93]

I think renaming the thread to "Cowboys Suck a Lot Less Nowadays" is appropriate. I have never seen such a turnaround in an NFL team in one season. Amazing. It isn't finished, and you can call it a fortunate sequence of events for Garrett, but it certainly appears right now that Coaching was a big part of the problem.

I won't argue things are much improved but let's not get carried away. That defense is still surrendering between 4 and 5 hundred yards a game along with 26 points a game. Their saving grace is they are finally getting turnovers and the have to stops.

I'm interested to see if they will use Choice the rest of the year, basically in place of Barber. I'd like to see Barber released, brought back at a cut rate and mover to fullback, permanently. I think he'd flourish as a blocking back catching passes out of the backfield. It's his only real shot at longevity in the league and remaining on this roster.

[mojotrain]

I like the attitude of the new old QB.

[slcdragonfan]

I like the attitude of the new old QB.

Agree...Kitna is actually playing pretty well, and seems to have something to prove. Fiery.

I admit I was wrong about him.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

But dont you still have to ask why this is? Garrett had complete control of the offensive playcalling and strategy. Where was this the first eight weeks? Also, why the increased discipline on the offensive side? Again, that was his unit.

Definitely a head scratcher!

[slcdragonfan]

two pic 6's in the last game, correct? and 4 turnovers by Indy?

[Maroondog]

But dont you still have to ask why this is? Garrett had complete control of the offensive playcalling and strategy. Where was this the first eight weeks? Also, why the increased discipline on the offensive side? Again, that was his unit.

Definitely a head scratcher!

As I posted before, makes me think there was a whole lot more going on behind the curtain than anyone knew. I remain cautious and not overly optimistic though.

[Maroondog]

Even though they stayed in the game, the Boys were badly exposed. The secondary sucks. And when it counted the most, the Dallas linebackers got their arses blocked off.

The one thing that continues to confound me beyond belief (and I mean all the time, not just last night) the Cowboys have no pass routes that take them beyond the sticks on 3rd down.

If third and 4 its a two yard pattern, if third and 8 a 6 yard pattern. I simply do not understand it.

[slcdragonfan]

Even though they stayed in the game, the Boys were badly exposed. The secondary sucks. And when it counted the most, the Dallas linebackers got their arses blocked off.

The one thing that continues to confound me beyond belief (and I mean all the time, not just last night) the Cowboys have no pass routes that take them beyond the sticks on 3rd down.

If third and 4 its a two yard pattern, if third and 8 a 6 yard pattern. I simply do not understand it.

the few times Kitna threw more than 15-20 yards he badly overthrew the WR's.

[SV61]

Even though they stayed in the game, the Boys were badly exposed. The secondary sucks. And when it counted the most, the Dallas linebackers got their arses blocked off.

The one thing that continues to confound me beyond belief (and I mean all the time, not just last night) the Cowboys have no pass routes that take them beyond the sticks on 3rd down.

If third and 4 its a two yard pattern, if third and 8 a 6 yard pattern. I simply do not understand it.

SOME of that HAS to be on the receivers. I know that Bennett went to A&M, but dang it, when you got 3rd and 6, don't run a 5 yard route.

:mad:

It may be sad or a moral victory, but just the fact that the Cowboys are playing with heart, and as a result, being competitive, is refreshing. Heart isn't going to always beat better teams, but they had a genuine chance to beat a better team last night.

Sure could not have said that earlier in the season.

I think the Boys are headed in the right direction.

[SLC93]

Even though they stayed in the game, the Boys were badly exposed. The secondary sucks. And when it counted the most, the Dallas linebackers got their arses blocked off.

The one thing that continues to confound me beyond belief (and I mean all the time, not just last night) the Cowboys have no pass routes that take them beyond the sticks on 3rd down.

If third and 4 its a two yard pattern, if third and 8 a 6 yard pattern. I simply do not understand it.

Your point is valid and one of the reasons I still have concerns about whether or not Garret is the man for the job. That is a detail mistake, an execution mistake and, quite honestly, a simple mistake. How does the detail driven stickler allow that? He's got alot of those on his resume as the OC and to see them still present as the HC bothers me. Additional to that, the defense is still giving up about 28 per since he took over.

I appreciate to clean up and the increased competetiveness but the results are not as rosy as some think, imo.

[15Adragon]

Your point is valid and one of the reasons I still have concerns about whether or not Garret is the man for the job. That is a detail mistake, an execution mistake and, quite honestly, a simple mistake. How does the detail driven stickler allow that? He's got alot of those on his resume as the OC and to see them still present as the HC bothers me. Additional to that, the defense is still giving up about 28 per since he took over.

I appreciate to clean up and the increased competetiveness but the results are not as rosy as some think, imo.

Me too. The NFL is becoming more and more all about entertainment, football not as much.

[SLC93]

Me too. The NFL is becoming more and more all about entertainment, football not as much.

People forget that Wade's first 5 losses were all by 7 points or less. Almost, followed by nonexistent, got him canned. That's not to say I'm a Wade guy or he should still be here. It's just fact.

[15Adragon]

People forget that Wade's first 5 losses were all by 7 points or less. Almost, followed by nonexistent, got him canned. That's not to say I'm a Wade guy or he should still be here. It's just fact.

It is $$$ first and winning is optional. I think Jerry really wants to win but just can't do it with his present approach. He hires the staff before the coach, pays players earlier than he needs to (Austin, Barber), doesn't value the draft, makes terrible trades (J. Gallaway, R. Williams, etc..) and so on... He can market and sell and market and sell, but the product on the field has been awful by Cowboys standards for 15 years. We should be happy they played the Eagles and Saints close right? (grinding my teeth...). I think I am going to go look at my '78 Cowboys team poster (hanging in my son's room) and reminisce for a while. :p

[Maroondog]

It is $$$ first and winning is optional. I think Jerry really wants to win but just can't do it with his present approach. He hires the staff before the coach, pays players earlier than he needs to (Austin, Barber), doesn't value the draft, makes terrible trades (J. Gallaway, R. Williams, etc..) and so on... He can market and sell and market and sell, but the product on the field has been awful by Cowboys standards for 15 years. We should be happy they played the Eagles and Saints close right? (grinding my teeth...). I think I am going to go look at my '78 Cowboys team poster (hanging in my son's room) and reminisce for a while. :p

He thinks he is an actual football person and he is not. Makes money, great shill..... not a football guy.

Worst of all, I believe he really wants to win but he just cannot get out of his own way.

[Maroondog]

My thoughts over todays contest:

1. Any OC who game plans to try to run against Dallas should be fired on the spot. Just pass, you will get everything you need more easily.

2. The two roughing penalties against Grossman were ridiculous calls. You get bumped harder than that in the huddle. Officials are turning the game into a sport for pusses.

3. I was certain Dallas would lose after blowing a 20 point lead but they pulled it out.

[Maroondog]

The only way to sum up the debacle in Feenix is to say the entire game was a complete summary of the Cowboyz entire season.

First part was all mistakes and penalties, last part was fighting back and making a game of it and finally losing because it was too little too late.

Game was lost in the first quarter, but I somehow think had Kitna been able to finish, the Cowboys would have won it. You can look at the missed XP and lots of other stuff, but the 2 picks were the difference. Officiating was horrid as well.

Cowboys could be embarrassed in Philly next week..............

Also, did everyone notice how pissed off Jerry was after the game? Will he fire the GM over it? :D

[slcdragonfan]

a LOT of missed penalties against the Cards early on, multiple PI and a facemask...

Anybody else DETEST Theisman as an announcer? He goes on and on about Barber and the helmet, then says almost nothing when a Card player does it late?

[AHSeagles]

a LOT of missed penalties against the Cards early on, multiple PI and a facemask...

Anybody else DETEST Theisman as an announcer? He goes on and on about Barber and the helmet, then says almost nothing when a Card player does it late?

Theisman and Joe Morgan are my least favorite announcers ever. The missed facemask on Bennett was bad.

[Maroondog]

Well, its Sunday Jan. 2, 2011.

The good news is the Cowboys can only suck one last time this year before the real offseason fun begins.

Will Garrett be given the job?
Do Williams and Barber go bye bye?
Will Jerry pull his head out?

Seriously, this should be an interesting time coming up.

[slcdragonfan]

Well, its Sunday Jan. 2, 2011.

The good news is the Cowboys can only suck one last time this year before the real offseason fun begins.

Will Garrett be given the job?
yes.
Do Williams and Barber go bye bye?
no and yes.
Will Jerry pull his head out?
errrrr.....

Seriously, this should be an interesting time coming up.

we will need to get O-linemen and secondary, this will cost us some talent. Barber still has a few years left and is high-paid....gone. Roy? I think they should keep him, a real team player and was coming on this year, but salary is high...may be gone but depth @ WR is important. Dez/Austin/Roy are incredible. of the 3 though, it is
Roy is one has to go.

D? Where to start....

[Maroondog]

we will need to get O-linemen and secondary, this will cost us some talent. Barber still has a few years left and is high-paid....gone. Roy? I think they should keep him, a real team player and was coming on this year, but salary is high...may be gone but depth @ WR is important. Dez/Austin/Roy are incredible. of the 3 though, it is
Roy is one has to go.

D? Where to start....

Lots of room for upgrades: O-line, secondary, linebackers.....

Additionally, Barber has lost his luster, I've never thought Williams was any good, overall this team could get old in a hurry, they could use the skills of an actual GM as well.

The perception of this team having "all that talent" is totally misguided. Don't tell anybody but the other franchises have very talented players and they get paid too. Dallas is middle of the road at best and this is proven by the results of Jerry's all knowing wisdom. Expect nothing more than mediocrity as long as Jerry runs the show. Definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

[SLC93]

Well, its Sunday Jan. 2, 2011.

The good news is the Cowboys can only suck one last time this year before the real offseason fun begins.

Will Garrett be given the job?
Do Williams and Barber go bye bye?
Will Jerry pull his head out?

Seriously, this should be an interesting time coming up.

I think the only thing that keeps Garrett from the job is if Bud Adams dismisses Jeff Fischer this week. If he does, Dallas will hire hime the next day. Garrett pulled out a nice record under miserable circumstances. I still have my reservations, though. If he is offereed the job he must insist of full authority to hire his staff because the Dallas staff needs an overhaul, imo. I am interested to see if he can get Dom Capers away from GB to coordinate the defense, though.

Barber is gone. All his big money is paid and cutting him actually saves Dallas close to four million.

Williams will stay. He works hard and fits as the 3rd option in the Austin/Bryant/Williams team. Also, his contract is not to the point where it saves you money to release him. If he's cut an escalator clause kicks him and it costs you close to 5 million to release him.

Jerry will have a strong offseason but he is who he is.

Dallas will focus heavy on the oline and secondary. My hope is that they identify a monster to play nose and slide ratliff to end. I've been saying it for 3 years now, the best 3-4's have a behemoth at the nose. Ratliff is amazing but he is a hybrid who should be moved all along the line with the focus being on the outside. He is in his prime and every year we've worn him down to nothing by seasons end playing the nose.

[SLC93]

we will need to get O-linemen and secondary, this will cost us some talent. Barber still has a few years left and is high-paid....gone. Roy? I think they should keep him, a real team player and was coming on this year, but salary is high...may be gone but depth @ WR is important. Dez/Austin/Roy are incredible. of the 3 though, it is
Roy is one has to go.

D? Where to start....

Defense needs safeties more than anything. By winning last night they cost themselves any shot at Peterson from LSU. That kid is a beast and would have looked soooo good with a star on his helmet. Once the safeties acquired you have to find a giant to play nose and commit to moving Ratliff to end for the vast majority of his snaps. After that find a couple of corners. We need insurance in case Jenkins is permanently scarred and it's past time for identfying Newman's eventual replacement. He's playing on borrowed time at 33.

[SV61]

Wonder if Von Miller will be available when Dallas picks...............

BUT, of all the help Dallas needs, I wonder if Miller would be the best pick.

Having said that, I can't help but think of the possibilities of Ware on one side at LB, Miller on the other side. NOW, who do you have to nick with an RB or TE? This helps the inside LBs greatly, AND helps to NOT expose your Safeties as much! They don't have to guard the middle of the field NEARLY as much.

I agree. Barber is gone. What confuses me, is his persistance to try and bust plays outside, when he has NEVER been fast enough to do this.

I don't know about Roy Williams. Hurd is not a bad third option either. His hustle on Special teams is to be commended as well.

McGee? He may be a hard worker, but he has GOT to get better. Yesterday's game was invaluable to him, no doubt. But, there were too many passes thrown behind his guys. That, and he didn't seem to be looking at the whole field. I also wonder why the coaches didn't let him throw more routes, instead of stinkin slant routes primarily.

He can still run the ball though. Gotta give him that.

O line can NEVER have enough quality, on any team. Dallas HAS to get some quality guys. IF that means rookies, so be it. If it means Vets, let's do it. .

[slcdragonfan]

Wonder if Von Miller will be available when Dallas picks...............

BUT, of all the help Dallas needs, I wonder if Miller would be the best pick.

Having said that, I can't help but think of the possibilities of Ware on one side at LB, Miller on the other side. NOW, who do you have to nick with an RB or TE? This helps the inside LBs greatly, AND helps to NOT expose your Safeties as much! They don't have to guard the middle of the field NEARLY as much.
Watch for Sean Lee next year....he is very good if he can stay healthy.

I agree. Barber is gone. What confuses me, is his persistance to try and bust plays outside, when he has NEVER been fast enough to do this.
I thought the same thing, just go up the middle Marion...

I don't know about Roy Williams. Hurd is not a bad third option either. His hustle on Special teams is to be commended as well.
WR is one area where the 'Boys have some depth. That means somebody may be trade bait for other much needier positions. I say keep him.

McGee? He may be a hard worker, but he has GOT to get better. Yesterday's game was invaluable to him, no doubt. But, there were too many passes thrown behind his guys. That, and he didn't seem to be looking at the whole field. I also wonder why the coaches didn't let him throw more routes, instead of stinkin slant routes primarily.
McGee is reminiscent of most rookie QB's (although not a rookie anymore). Speed of the game and recognizing Defenses narrow the play-calling. On the positive side, his Vick mimicry in practice appeared to pay off with a lot of yardage. :)

He can still run the ball though. Gotta give him that.

O line can NEVER have enough quality, on any team. Dallas HAS to get some quality guys. IF that means rookies, so be it. If it means Vets, let's do it.
Yes!

and if you pay those O-line guys right, you have them 13-15 years, you can build teams around them.

[ktCarl]

So, Cowboy fans. How do ya'll rate Wade Phillips as a defensive coordinator?

[slcdragonfan]

So, Cowboy fans. How do ya'll rate Wade Phillips as a defensive coordinator?

don't you have your own "suck" thread for that other Texas team? :D

his D this year was turrible. But last year not so bad.

[SV61]

So, Cowboy fans. How do ya'll rate Wade Phillips as a defensive coordinator?

I'm gonna get crucified with stats for saying this....................

IMO, Wade Phillips is a very good DC. Or was. Defenses are changin pretty fast these days.

Just like I will say this about Kubiak. He is a very good OC, whose time has not been fully realized yet. Now, being the OC while the HC, don't know about that one.

Phillips STUNK at trying to do both. He is so much better, just focusing on the defense.

[SLC93]

So, Cowboy fans. How do ya'll rate Wade Phillips as a defensive coordinator?

There is little argument against Wade as a DC. He's excelled everywhere he's called defenses for the better part of 30 years. He's aggressive, innovative and has a good feel for talent. Houston made a great hire, imo. Kubiak will not have to worry about that side of the ball being prepared. Now, if they have the talent for his system, I have no idea. Can Mario Williams convert to a standup, olb type? DE's in the 3-4 are typically run stuffers. That would be a waste of an elite talent.

[slcdragonfan]

There is little argument against Wade as a DC. He's excelled everywhere he's called defenses for the better part of 30 years. He's aggressive, innovative and has a good feel for talent. Houston made a great hire, imo. Kubiak will not have to worry about that side of the ball being prepared. Now, if they have the talent for his system, I have no idea. Can Mario Williams convert to a standup, olb type? DE's in the 3-4 are typically run stuffers. That would be a waste of an elite talent.

I wasn't too impressed. This year really sucked, and an eye for talent? Look at the secondary and say that again...:)

[SLC93]

and if you pay those O-line guys right, you have them 13-15 years, you can build teams around them.

If Peterson of LSU or Akumara aren't available at 9, I'd look for Dallas to trade out of the pick. It's consistent with their luck that the year they have a top 10 pick there isn't a top 10 prospect on the offensive line. My hope is that Luck declares because that could mean as many as 4 qb's go top ten. With the DL prospects available that could put one of the db's falling to us. I'd look for Dallas to pick 2 db's, 2 ol's and a dl with their first five picks.

[SLC93]

I wasn't too impressed. This year really sucked, and an eye for talent? Look at the secondary and say that again...:)

Let me rephrase. He's been very good at identifying pass rush talent and placing people into succesful roles in the front 7 over his career.

Wade's reputation as a DC is impeccable throughout the league, despite his HC struggles. His defenses in SD got him the gig in Dallas.

[Maroondog]

With the draft starting today, had to give this thread a bump in case Jerry decides to get cute again and start trading to get another inferior draft.

Will he trade or take a solid player with his first pick?

[SLC93]

With the draft starting today, had to give this thread a bump in case Jerry decides to get cute again and start trading to get another inferior draft.

Will he trade or take a solid player with his first pick?

The only way Jerry trades out of this pick is if Julio Jones slides or a qb hungry team gets antsy. I don't see Jones sliding but I can see teams getting silly this year over quarterbacks. That's not necessarily an endorsement of this qb class as much as it is an indictment of about 11 teams situations at the position. If Jerry can take advantage of a desperate team and move down a few spots, I'm ok with that. Anything more than a few spots may cost them a top talent. I'm not for that. Dallas needs to hit a home run with this draft.

[BlakeJ]

Tyron Smith

[Austin109]

Its 1:00 in Stephenville and the cowboys still suck.

[SLC93]

Its 1:00 in Stephenville and the cowboys still suck.

Yeah but you're still in Stephenville.;):D

[Dawg Fan]

Yeah but you're still in Stephenville.;):D


:rofl:

[Austin109]

Yeah but you're still in Stephenville.;):D

OUCH!:rofl::yes:

[Maroondog]

Yeah but you're still in Stephenville.;):D

Don't stray from topic. Cowboys still suck. ;):rofl:

Hope the new kid pans out. They need his help. Now if Jerry will draft for need today.......

[Maroondog]

I'll go out on a limb and say the Cowboys do not, repeat, do not win the Super Bowl this year.

Even with the Redheaded Stranger on the sidelines, Jerry is still on the scene.

What say you?

[Dawg Fan]

I'll go out on a limb and say the Cowboys do not, repeat, do not win the Super Bowl this year.

Even with the Redheaded Stranger on the sidelines, Jerry is still on the scene.

What say you?

pretty safe bet but then again that really isn't much of a stretch. 31 teams won't make it to the superbowl and win.

[Maroondog]

pretty safe bet but then again that really isn't much of a stretch. 31 teams won't make it to the superbowl and win.

This is true, but I don't see them even contending either.

[slcdragonfan]

Let's start with: "Do they make the playoffs?"

[twcpfan1]

Let's start with: "Do they make the playoffs?"

If they bench romo and start McGee, they will. After all, McGee's better than Bradford

[slcdragonfan]

If they bench romo and start McGee, they will. After all, McGee's better than Bradford

IF their defense can stop somebody and not just make headlines with quips, and if they can stop turning the ball over, then might make the playoffs.

Romo as you well know is plenty capable of getting the job done. Just don't ask him to be a holder for a FG.

[TexasRed6x]

If they bench romo and start McGee, they will. After all, McGee's better than Bradford

McGee put up romos numbers with the third string! I seriously think it's time to cut kitna and make McGee the backup. Kitna sucks! He isnt even that good!

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

McGee put up romos numbers with the third string! I seriously think it's time to cut kitna and make McGee the backup. Kitna sucks! He isnt even that good!

No disrespect to Kitna but, I wish I could get that thru the heads of some of these so-called Cowboy fans that I meet and see from time to time.

There are some who think that if the Boys start Kitna, that they'll win it all.

Yes...they are serious.

[TexasRed6x]

No disrespect to Kitna but, I wish I could get that thru the heads of some of these so-called Cowboy fans that I meet and see from time to time.

There are some who think that if the Boys start Kitna, that they'll win it all.

Yes...they are serious.

Which is why I think most cowboy fans are stupid! They always come up with the "we are gonna go to the super bowl this year" every year and then they end up flopping! LOL

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Which is why I think most cowboy fans are stupid! They always come up with the "we are gonna go to the super bowl this year" every year and then they end up flopping! LOL

As a lifelong die hard Cowboy fan, I must unfortunately say that I agree with you.

[TexasRed6x]

As a lifelong die hard Cowboy fan, I must unfortunately say that I agree with you.

Well isnt it true matthew? And i mean no disrespect toward you with my previous comment due to the fact your a cowboys fan. I mean cowboys fans In general. Even in San Antonio the cowboys fans are bad! They are so annoying! But it's like a love/hate kinda thing with the cowboys. And they need to stop with the whole "cowboys are americas team" lol not anymore...

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Well isnt it true matthew? And i mean no disrespect toward you with my previous comment due to the fact your a cowboys fan. I mean cowboys fans In general. Even in San Antonio the cowboys fans are bad! They are so annoying! But it's like a love/hate kinda thing with the cowboys. And they need to stop with the whole "cowboys are americas team" lol not anymore...

As I said before, unfortunately, I agree with you. LOL! Some of us are very, VERY delusional.

No disrespect taken at all.

[Dawg Fan]

Well isnt it true matthew? And i mean no disrespect toward you with my previous comment due to the fact your a cowboys fan. I mean cowboys fans In general. Even in San Antonio the cowboys fans are bad! They are so annoying! But it's like a love/hate kinda thing with the cowboys. And they need to stop with the whole "cowboys are americas team" lol not anymore...


funny thing is, all fans think their team can and will win the super bowl. If you don't like that you are just S.O.L. They do have 5 championships and they are still "America's Team" Just because you are a hater doesn't mean they aren't. sorry

I think you will hate them more after this year. I am not saying they will win it all because that is just silly before the season starts but they will be very good. I guess we will see.

[Dawg Fan]

As a lifelong die hard Cowboy fan, I must unfortunately say that I agree with you.\

Come on Matt, you a fan or not? Let the haters say what they want, who really cares but to let them dis your team and not stand up is just not right.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

\

Come on Matt, you a fan or not? Let the haters say what they want, who really cares but to let them dis your team and not stand up is just not right.

Oh please believe, that I'm a fan until I go to the grave. I also believe that we'll be much better than last year (I have them going 10-6). But, there are a bunch of people out there who claim to be Cowboy fans who wouldn't know the game of football if it bit them in the @$$.

As for if they're still America's Team or not, if it's not still the Boys, it's probably the Steelers due to their big following. Isn't there a system where they determine who has the most fans of all teams?

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

And as of lately, most of the ones that I've met that claim to be fans of this team are stupid. I just try to be unbiased, that's all.

[Maroondog]

Kitna did a decent job as the starter after Romo went down, but he is NOT the man.

Speaking of Romo, the clock has almost run out on him IMO. He is not a spring chicken and his resume' has ONE playoff win on it and nothing else. I doubt he will ever get it done.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Kitna did a decent job as the starter after Romo went down, but he is NOT the man.

Speaking of Romo, the clock has almost run out on him IMO. He is not a spring chicken and his resume' has ONE playoff win on it and nothing else. I doubt he will ever get it done.

Could be true, especially with him being 31. Then again, I think the jury is still out on that as well. I'd just hate to see him end up starting for someone else and winning it all. Meanwhile, we could still be sitting here saying, "we need another quarterback".

[slcdragonfan]

everybody loves the bench-warming QB, he hasn't made any mistakes yet.

[TexasRed6x]

funny thing is, all fans think their team can and will win the super bowl. If you don't like that you are just S.O.L. They do have 5 championships and they are still "America's Team" Just because you are a hater doesn't mean they aren't. sorry

I think you will hate them more after this year. I am not saying they will win it all because that is just silly before the season starts but they will be very good. I guess we will see.

Of course Dawg..If you dont think your team has a chance to win it every year you not a fan of sports. Its just unfortunate that i have to watch them every sunday on FOX at noon since im in their market and not in Dallas. I mean dont get me wrong, I like the talent on this team but Id rather watch another game every sunday instead of the Cowboys timeslot (12:15 or 3:15). The only thing I hate about the Cowboys is Jerry Jones himself. I just do. He is the most cockiest owner in the NFL and he is the owner who thinks he has the biggest balls of all the owners but yet his team has failed and underachieved in recent years.

[CCCSportsFan]

Could be true, especially with him being 31. Then again, I think the jury is still out on that as well. I'd just hate to see him end up starting for someone else and winning it all. Meanwhile, we could still be sitting here saying, "we need another quarterback".

+1... This year will be very telling about Romo; can he stay healthy, does he regain his form and move towards elite level status, or does he slip backwards fanning the flames of this post.

[Dawg Fan]

Of course Dawg..If you dont think your team has a chance to win it every year you not a fan of sports. Its just unfortunate that i have to watch them every sunday on FOX at noon since im in their market and not in Dallas. I mean dont get me wrong, I like the talent on this team but Id rather watch another game every sunday instead of the Cowboys timeslot (12:15 or 3:15). The only thing I hate about the Cowboys is Jerry Jones himself. I just do. He is the most cockiest owner in the NFL and he is the owner who thinks he has the biggest balls of all the owners but yet his team has failed and underachieved in recent years.


I hate Jones myself and always have. The way he fired Tom Landry made him an enemy of mine from that point on. I am a Cowboys fan but I can't pick the owner. It is a burden I think all Cowboy fans will agree on.:(

[slcdragonfan]

I hate Jones myself and always have. The way he fired Tom Landry made him an enemy of mine from that point on. I am a Cowboys fan but I can't pick the owner. It is a burden I think all Cowboy fans will agree on.:(

All I can say is Jones as an owner is far superior to Bud Adams as an owner. Jones at least takes care of his players. Adams treated them like crap for the most part.

[TexasRed6x]

+1... This year will be very telling about Romo; can he stay healthy, does he regain his form and move towards elite level status, or does he slip backwards fanning the flames of this post.

he just has to learn two simple things...how to win games and not blow them!

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Of course Dawg..If you dont think your team has a chance to win it every year you not a fan of sports. Its just unfortunate that i have to watch them every sunday on FOX at noon since im in their market and not in Dallas. I mean dont get me wrong, I like the talent on this team but Id rather watch another game every sunday instead of the Cowboys timeslot (12:15 or 3:15). The only thing I hate about the Cowboys is Jerry Jones himself. I just do. He is the most cockiest owner in the NFL and he is the owner who thinks he has the biggest balls of all the owners but yet his team has failed and underachieved in recent years.

Sir, the majority of all Cowboys fans will agree with you on this.

[SLC93]

Kitna did a decent job as the starter after Romo went down, but he is NOT the man.

Speaking of Romo, the clock has almost run out on him IMO. He is not a spring chicken and his resume' has ONE playoff win on it and nothing else. I doubt he will ever get it done.

Don't be that guy. Romo is a top 8 qb in this league and it is a golden age for qb's.

He's 31 and in the prime of his career. Barring serious injury he's got 5-7 years left as a frontline starter. He plays the most protected position in the game and deosnt have many miles on him because he entered as an UFA and sat for the first half of his career. If Dallas manages to get their line to develop into a strength, he'll drop your jaw with what he does because all of his weapons are young or in their prime.

How long did Manning go with just the one win and the label that he'd never get it done? You have to let these guys mature, even someone as gifted as Manning. I believe Romo is there.