SLC Cheerleader Issue - whut's up?

[Favpack]

Hey Dragon nation,

what's up with the cheerleader deal this year? I didn't go find the link, but the KTCK Ticket dudes were debating this issue tonight. Apparently 14 ladies "passed all tests" to make the squad (tumbling, cheering, etc.) and the other slots were simply left wanting - girls didn't make the cut I suppose. So, they simply let the girls that tried out, but didn't make it, on the squad? Some parents are irate, some think it's cool. So, what's the deal?

[dragonsdaddy]

Hey Dragon nation,

what's up with the cheerleader deal this year? I didn't go find the link, but the KTCK Ticket dudes were debating this issue tonight. Apparently 14 ladies "passed all tests" to make the squad (tumbling, cheering, etc.) and the other slots were simply left wanting - girls didn't make the cut I suppose. So, they simply let the girls that tried out, but didn't make it, on the squad? Some parents are irate, some think it's cool. So, what's the deal?
this has been an ongoing issue/point of conflict for several years. lots of heartburn with the selection and eligibility standards. very contentious, almost to the point of law suits and punches. dr presley(hs principal) keeps his head on a swivel and wishes it would go away. it won't. glad the football program is more stable.

[dragons08]

its basically (from what i read) 14 girls made it, and the judging is no fair, and all that stuff..so they want to 2 diffrent cheer teams, but the school doesnt want to pay the 6k for a competive coach, but their open to letting the studens and families raise/donate money for it, which i guess people dont want to do that either....thats all i really know

[stevefoxsc]

Hey Dragon nation,

what's up with the cheerleader deal this year? I didn't go find the link, but the KTCK Ticket dudes were debating this issue tonight. Apparently 14 ladies "passed all tests" to make the squad (tumbling, cheering, etc.) and the other slots were simply left wanting - girls didn't make the cut I suppose. So, they simply let the girls that tried out, but didn't make it, on the squad? Some parents are irate, some think it's cool. So, what's the deal?

Some werent rich enough or kissed arse

[RedRage00]

They still suck..lol..but at least the fb team is good lol

[LoneStarProud]

The truth to this whole fiasco may never get told. Let me just say that it is unfortunate that some parents are teaching their kids how not to behave as mature adults. I don't have kids involved in this but I am too close to it to say anything that may implicate certain individuals. I just hope justice prevails.:mad:

[SVite]

My daughter is a cheerleader at Judson,and i know it happens every where usa.Theres always a few mothers that just keep crap going.They get coaches fired,they start false acusations etc,etc,etc!It`s gonna be interesting this year because the superintendents(spelling)daughter made the squad.Cheerleading is`nt a uil sanctioned program,so all kinds junk can happen.

[LoneStarProud]

Some werent rich enough or kissed arse

Actually its the opposite. Some are too rich and feel their status entitles them to have their way. If things don't go your way you just make all kind of threats right?

[drgnbkr]

Actually its the opposite. Some are too rich and feel their status entitles them to have their way. If things don't go your way you just make all kind of threats right?

IMO the Carroll cheerleaders are a bunch of posers anyway..the Crew does a lot more for the crowd....

[gwdaddy]

IMO the Carroll cheerleaders are a bunch of posers anyway..the Crew does a lot more for the crowd....

AMEN.

[Miss Kitty]

What does the crew do?

[drgnbkr]

What does the crew do?

They are a group of students that wear coveralls, and run around on the sideline promoting "fan interaction" ..they do a pushp for every total point scored after touchdowns and xtra point.with Carroll they do a lot of pushups! They are just informally trying to ge the fans more involved.

[Miss Kitty]

They are a group of students that wear coveralls, and run around on the sideline promoting "fan interaction" ..they do a pushp for every total point scored after touchdowns and xtra point.with Carroll they do a lot of pushups! They are just informally trying to ge the fans more involved.

I think that is cool. That sounds more fun than cheerleading anyway.

[drgnbkr]

I think that is cool. That sounds more fun than cheerleading anyway.

I'll probably get blasted by a cheerleader defender, but ours don't have alot of effect on the crowd..they just stand around a lot and pose....I know they train a lot & all are very gymnastically capable, they just don't have much interaction with the crowd..

[BAMF cowboy]

i vote we turn this into a DragonCrew06 roast thread

[dragons08]

IMO the Carroll cheerleaders are a bunch of posers anyway..the Crew does a lot more for the crowd....
that is soooooo true!!!!

[dragons08]

I'll probably get blasted by a cheerleader defender, but ours don't have alot of effect on the crowd..they just stand around a lot and pose....I know they train a lot & all are very gymnastically capable, they just don't have much interaction with the crowd..
yeah that is very true..they stand there, and when they do, do stuff you cant here them...even the band tells them to shut up and leave..pretty lame huh?

[yankee]

IMO the Carroll cheerleaders are a bunch of posers anyway..the Crew does a lot more for the crowd....
in fact, many of the band members including myself and d08 yell at them to go away. i enjoy the crew A TON more than the cheeleaders. the crowd just ingnores them anyway.

[Favpack]

In a big time football venue - the cheerleaders are pretty much a non-event for those at the game. In Lufkin, all cheers such as "LP" or "go Pack" or whatever - are started in the stands. the CL's are for carrrying flags, doing stunts just to keep energy high and for overall atmosphere. I do like the Crew - although I want to come down there and do a mosh pit, crowd-surf jump on you when you start those dang push-ups.:D

[dragons08]

In a big time football venue - the cheerleaders are pretty much a non-event for those at the game. In Lufkin, all cheers such as "LP" or "go Pack" or whatever - are started in the stands. the CL's are for carrrying flags, doing stunts just to keep energy high and for overall atmosphere. I do like the Crew - although I want to come down there and do a mosh pit, crowd-surf jump on you when you start those dang push-ups.:D
do you have enough balance to be able to stay up for allll those pushups?:D

[dragons08]

They still suck..lol..but at least the fb team is good lol
yesssssssssssss...its not that hard to step one leg out and hold out a hand and yell something...at pep rallies (the jv ones) drop eachother, and are out sync and everything, its a suckfest

[Miss Kitty]

So how does the crew get picked?

[yankee]

So how does the crew get picked?
have to be a senior. tryouts. might be some other factors.

[dragons08]

in fact, many of the band members including myself and d08 yell at them to go away. i enjoy the crew A TON more than the cheeleaders. the crowd just ingnores them anyway.
hahahahahahahaha, we do a lot more than that, we mock them and stuff...we acuttaly do their cheers, but we make fun of them while doing it their "go fight" thing we just say "go away"...then their 'we dont mess around' hahahaahhaah that'll get me banned

[dragons08]

So how does the crew get picked?
senior, tryout..have to be funny..maybe a certain grade average? im not sure

[Miss Kitty]

have to be a senior. tryouts. might be some other factors.


Oh so unpicked cheerleaders can't just become a crew member. :D

[dragons08]

So how does the crew get picked?
speaking of which, i should try out hahahahahahaha:cool:

go over to the katy side, talk trash, be like 'MK, you suck, blah blah blah' :D

[dragons08]

Oh so unpicked cheerleaders can't just become a crew member. :D
more like unpicked crew members (girls) can become cheerleaders

[Miss Kitty]

speaking of which, i should try out hahahahahahaha:cool:

go over to the katy side, talk trash, be like 'MK, you suck, blah blah blah' :D


Oh, you would never make it back to the Green side of the world if you did that. :D

[dragons08]

Oh, you would never make it back to the Green side of the world if you did that. :D
all those pushups, would make these guns even bigger, so i wont have to worry

[Miss Kitty]

all those pushups, would make these guns even bigger, so i wont have to worry

You just keep believing that grasshopper. :D

[BAMF cowboy]

heaven forbid anyone ask me. you have to do some pushups, and a skit at the tryouts. 5 guys, 5 girls make it. obviously to have a good skit, you gotta be funny, so i guess that is a qualification. as long as you have an 85 GPA and maintain above 75 in all classes while you're on it, that's how it goes for grades...not difficult.

and basically you have to be awesome...like me

[Red Raiders]

its basically (from what i read) 14 girls made it, and the judging is no fair, and all that stuff..so they want to 2 diffrent cheer teams, but the school doesnt want to pay the 6k for a competive coach, but their open to letting the studens and families raise/donate money for it, which i guess people dont want to do that either....thats all i really know

Maybe Judges are jealous of the Southlake Carroll cheerleaders because they're sexy and rich?

[drgnbkr]

I've not been, but heard that the pep-rally skits by The Crew are Saturday Night Live material!

[yankee]

I've not been, but heard that the pep-rally skits by The Crew are Saturday Night Live material!
i saw only one, and let me tell you, it was AMAZINGLY FUNNY. i laughed so hard i cried. the skits are awesome.

[dragons08]

heaven forbid anyone ask me. you have to do some pushups, and a skit at the tryouts. 5 guys, 5 girls make it. obviously to have a good skit, you gotta be funny, so i guess that is a qualification. as long as you have an 85 GPA and maintain above 75 in all classes while you're on it, that's how it goes for grades...not difficult.

and basically you have to be awesome...like me
so you like get a group of people and make a skit with them?

[dragons08]

i saw only one, and let me tell you, it was AMAZINGLY FUNNY. i laughed so hard i cried. the skits are awesome.
hahaha yeah, so funny the school bans them..its ridiclus, make fun of the cheerleaders for GETTING DRUNK, and they GET DRUNK, but you get in trouble...what gives??

remembr the ESPN one in 04..ohhh man that was HILLARIOUS, nailed the kid in the chair and broke it hahahahahahaha

also the one they did at DS in 04 that was good one as well, guy standing there, came out of nowhere and NAILED him

[dragons08]

I've not been, but heard that the pep-rally skits by The Crew are Saturday Night Live material!
sure are, sucks the school is strict on them :mad:

[BAMF cowboy]

you can have up to 2 other people that arent trying out in your audition skit.

that one that you saw d08 was one of the best skits i remember (year before me). SNL skit was by far the best this year.

[BAMF cowboy]

oh and about us getting trouble...

that's SUPPOSED to be all hush hush

[lonny23]

What does the crew do?
Mostly waste time on this forum!:p At least one of them does!

[lonny23]

speaking of which, i should try out hahahahahahaha:cool:

go over to the katy side, talk trash, be like 'MK, you suck, blah blah blah' :D
NM

[dragons08]

you can have up to 2 other people that arent trying out in your audition skit.

that one that you saw d08 was one of the best skits i remember (year before me). SNL skit was by far the best this year.
so its you and 2 other people NOT trying out..no other people trying out?

[dragons08]

oh and about us getting trouble...

that's SUPPOSED to be all hush hush
haha so much for that, i heard about that like right away, word spreads fast around carroll campus's

[BAMF cowboy]

no kidding the moment we stepped out of the room people were asking us if crew had really been stopped forever. i regret nothing...:D

oh and to lonny...im not the only guilty one

[lonny23]

no kidding the moment we stepped out of the room people were asking us if crew had really been stopped forever. i regret nothing...:D

oh and to lonny...im not the only guilty one
Yeah, but I have people talking about wanting to quote me!:p

[lonny23]

speaking of which, i should try out hahahahahahaha:cool:

go over to the katy side, talk trash, be like 'MK, you suck, blah blah blah' :D
You probably won't get a chance to say blah, blah, blah.

[Miss Kitty]

You probably won't get a chance to say blah, blah, blah.


See grasshopper, I told you. LOL ;)

[lonny23]

See grasshopper, I told you. LOL ;)
I still liked my first post better!:p

Both are true, though!;)

[Miss Kitty]

I still liked my first post better!:p

Both are true, though!;)

Well, my hero either way. ;)

[lonny23]

Well, my hero either way. ;)
Hey, you changed the signature back.

It's no wonder Dragons08 is like 60th chair in band and has to bring his own chair. He spends more time worrying about the other team than practicing for the Dragons.

[dragons08]

Hey, you changed the signature back.

It's no wonder Dragons08 is like 60th chair in band and has to bring his own chair. He spends more time worrying about the other team than practicing for the Dragons.
hahah good one...i worry about the dragons a lot, but its fun to poke fun at other teams as well, espically those loser katy fans :p

[Miss Kitty]

hahah good one...i worry about the dragons a lot, but its fun to poke fun at other teams as well, espically those loser katy fans :p

:eek: Strike Three

[dragons08]

:eek: Strike Three
0-1...sucky on-base percentage...lonster that acceptable?

[lonny23]

0-1...sucky on-base percentage...lonster that acceptable?
Just think, she used to take up for you. She even said a few nice things about you when I was making fun of you.

[dragons08]

Just think, she used to take up for you. She even said a few nice things about you when I was making fun of you.
she knows im just messing with her

[RedRage00]

Victoria has bad a$$ cheerleaders(2006 National Champs). Too bad the football team isn't that great LOL

http://www.varsity.com/index.asp?article=2270

[ktCarl]

Hey, SLCers! This cheerleader story has made it to the radio talk shows here in Houston!

[LoneStarProud]

Hey, SLCers! This cheerleader story has made it to the radio talk shows here in Houston!

Yea, it's gotten way too much exposure. Looks like it has somewhat been resolved. The original 14 that made the cut get to stay. Those that did not must try out again if they so choose. It sounds like some may not try out again and it will be the same criteria to make as it was the first time so even if they do tryout they will have to do better than the first go around if they are to be chosen. All we are waiting on now are the lawsuits to come rolling in. I gaurantee that will happen.:rolleyes:

[dragons08]

Hey, SLCers! This cheerleader story has made it to the radio talk shows here in Houston!
a story, that is blown out of proportion..when something goes wrong or something, somebody sues and it gets into a big deal...2 many egos in southlake IMO

[Slim-Rob]

a story, that is blown out of proportion..when something goes wrong or something, somebody sues and it gets into a big deal...2 many egos in southlake IMO

talking about yourself isn't the best way to get people to like you:D

[dragons08]

Yea, it's gotten way too much exposure. Looks like it has somewhat been resolved. The original 14 that made the cut get to stay. Those that did not must try out again if they so choose. It sounds like some may not try out again and it will be the same criteria to make as it was the first time so even if they do tryout they will have to do better than the first go around if they are to be chosen. All we are waiting on now are the lawsuits to come rolling in. I gaurantee that will happen.:rolleyes:
oh of course a lawsuit will happen, in southlake, thats a way of life it appears, their son/daughter dont get a certain spot for something they dont like, they just file lawsuits and stuff its getting ridiculus

[dragons08]

talking about yourself isn't the best way to get people to like you:D
oh well, its true though, if they dont get their way, they complain

[Slim-Rob]

oh of course a lawsuit will happen, in southlake, thats a way of life it appears, their son/daughter dont get a certain spot for something they dont like, they just file lawsuits and stuff its getting ridiculus

lol. People don't sue Judson cause they wouldn't get much.

[Slim-Rob]

oh well, its true though, if they dont get their way, they complain

Its like that everywhere though. Judson had their tryouts, no real controversy.

[ktCarl]

Do ya'll remember that lady from I believe Kingwood that paid to have a cheerleader killed so her daughter could make the squad? I think that beats the SLC fiasco.

[gwdaddy]

Now don't be implicating Kingwood in this, Mr. Tiger. That cheerleader mom business was out in Channelview, according to the following story. We lived in Houston at that time and it was indeed all the news. We later lived in Kingwood before moving to Dragonland, but I didn't remember that the cheerleader mom took a job there after she got out of jail--maybe that was the Kingwood tie in that you recall.

From what I remember back in the late 80s and early 90s, the schools in Kingwood's old Northeast district were better known for obtaining injunctions to horn their way into the football playoffs when they didn't get there on the playing field--investigators seemed to be able to find ineligible players behind every tree out that way when it served their teams' purpose.

Saturday, March 1, 1997

'Cheerleader mom' freed after serving six months

By MICHELLE KOIDIN Associated Press Writer

HOUSTON (AP) - Wanda Holloway, jailed for trying to hire a hit man to kill the mother of her daughter's cheerleading rival, was freed this morning.

Ms. Holloway had served six months of a 10-year sentence after pleading no contest to solicitation of capital murder. She will be on probation for the next 9-1/2 years.

Ms. Holloway - the so-called "cheerleader mom" whose saga drew international publicity and led to two television movies - initially was sentenced to 15 years in prison in 1991. That conviction was overturned when it was discovered a juror was on probation.

Ms. Holloway did not answer questions while leaving the courtroom this morning.

During the hearing, State District Judge George Godwin denied prosecutors' request to send Ms. Holloway to a mental hospital. He instead ordered her to undergo a psychiatric evaluation. Godwin said he would re-evaluate the terms of her probation after the test.

"Until we know a doctor has said she is over this obsession, no, we do not feel comfortable," said Verna Heath, the target of the alleged plot.

However, Mrs. Heath added, "I don't intend on spending the rest of my life scared."

Godwin also ordered Ms. Holloway to perform 1,000 hours of community service. He recommended she spend it in a homeless shelter.

During her half-year at the state prison in Gatesville she was assigned to the hoe detail, clearing weeds from sides of highways.

Defense attorney Jack Zimmermann said Ms. Holloway already has lined up a job as a secretary at a small business in Kingwood, which is across Houston from Channelview, where the events unfolded.

Zimmermann said his client does not plan to cash in on her notoriety, adding no book or movie deals are in the works.

"She's not going to do any interviews for compensation," Zimmermann said.

Jurors in the 1991 trial heard secretly recorded tapes of Ms. Holloway asking her brother-in-law to hire a hit man to kill the mother of a girl who was vying against her daughter for a spot on the cheerleading squad.

Ms. Holloway said she wanted the mother killed because she believed that the daughter would be so upset that she would drop out of the competition.

Witnesses at the original trial described Ms. Holloway as a vindictive mother who was overzealous in pursuing her daughter's dreams. Both girls were 13 at the time.

The case was spoofed in the HBO movie "The Positively True Adventures of the Alleged Texas Cheerleader-Murdering Mom," which starred actress Holly Hunter as Ms. Holloway. A second made-for-TV movie, "Willing to Kill: the Texas Cheerleader Story," aired on ABC in 1992.

[dragonfootballfan]

Do ya'll remember that lady from I believe Kingwood that paid to have a cheerleader killed so her daughter could make the squad? I think that beats the SLC fiasco.
the carroll fiasco is not over yet.

[yankee]

the carroll fiasco is not over yet.
the new superintendent is probably wondering what he got into. parents bringing the cheerleader issue to the school board. only one of the propositions got passed, and the bomb sorta thingy threat at chs.

[dragons08]

the new superintendent is probably wondering what he got into. parents bringing the cheerleader issue to the school board. only one of the propositions got passed, and the bomb sorta thingy threat at chs.
yeah that was interesting..that kid has a somewhat mental disability correct?

my understanding of the situation, told to me by a teacher..

a kid said he planted a bomb..they did a lockdown, so the kid can be found, then set fire alarm off, to get everyone out and search the building

[Tigerjag]

During her half-year at the state prison in Gatesville she was assigned to the hoe detail, clearing weeds from sides of highways.

Well, this just cracked me up.

[dragonsdaddy]

ttt

[TexasRed6x]

the new superintendent is probably wondering what he got into. parents bringing the cheerleader issue to the school board. only one of the propositions got passed, and the bomb sorta thingy threat at chs.
Which CHS are you talking about?

[dragonsdaddy]

Which CHS are you talking about?
carroll high school. the sr high is usually referred to as cshs.

[TexasRed6x]

carroll high school. the sr high is usually referred to as cshs.
Oh ok. I thought you were talking about another school.

[dragons08]

Which CHS are you talking about?
9th and 10th grade is chs

11th and 12th is cshs



some student made a bomb threat or something like that, they did a lockdown, to find him, then made us all go out...from my understanding the kid has some what of a mental problem, not entirley sure, but thats what i heard

[TexasRed6x]

9th and 10th grade is chs

11th and 12th is cshs



some student made a bomb threat or something like that, they did a lockdown, to find him, then made us all go out...from my understanding the kid has some what of a mental problem, not entirley sure, but thats what i heard
So your high school is split into two?

[dragonsdaddy]

So your high school is split into two?
that's correct. not really all that novel a situation. plano has been doing it for almost 30 years.

[LUFPAN]

Well, this just cracked me up.

Being assigned to Hoe detail don't sound that bad.:D

[Miss Kitty]

Being assigned to Hoe detail don't sound that bad.:D


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

[TexasRed6x]

that's correct. not really all that novel a situation. plano has been doing it for almost 30 years.
I have never heard of a school doing that. Its kinda like Judson-Wagner but with two separate classes.(grade level)

[yankee]

I have never heard of a school doing that. Its kinda like Judson-Wagner but with two separate classes.(grade level)
its not a new idea, just new around the area. not many schools do it around here.

[yankee]

9th and 10th grade is chs

11th and 12th is cshs



some student made a bomb threat or something like that, they did a lockdown, to find him, then made us all go out...from my understanding the kid has some what of a mental problem, not entirley sure, but thats what i heard
after the bomb threat, the kid attempted to attack the teacher that turned him in (i think). another student stopped him and that's when he was (thankfully) kicked out of the district.

[TexasRed6x]

its not a new idea, just new around the area. not many schools do it around here.
Figured that. You rarely see that now days.

[Slim-Rob]

Judson is like that....Grey campus is 9th and 10th grade...Red campus is 11th and 12th grade. Been like that since the 80s. (or whenever the damn grey was built...)