LT v Tivy

[BrianFolsom]

Bold statement: LT could be 48-2 in two weeks

True Feelings: I honestly think this week and next week will be LT's toughest games up until week 10 against CP ;)... Now, it obviously won't surprise me if LT beats Aledo and Tivy, but let's face it, it shouldn't surprise anyone if Aledo and Tivy beat LT.

Your thoughts, GO!

[Shamu85]

LT definitely misses Erickson. Their O just isn't hitting on all 8 yet. IMO, they really need to try and establish their running game a bit more. Their D also needs some shoring up against a good running team. I think LT definitely has it in 'em to beat KT, but they are nowhere the best team in the state this year. 4A, maybe, but not the powerhouse they have been the last two years.

[titus211]

Stick with LT, they are bigger in both lines, plus Madison NEVER has been known for defense.

[twolf5]

LT definitely misses Erickson. Their O just isn't hitting on all 8 yet. IMO, they really need to try and establish their running game a bit more. Their D also needs some shoring up against a good running team. I think LT definitely has it in 'em to beat KT, but they are nowhere the best team in the state this year. 4A, maybe, but not the powerhouse they have been the last two years.

This looks to be very true. Erickson was a total stud and that's a huge drop off.

[BrianFolsom]

Stick with LT, they are bigger in both lines, plus Madison NEVER has been known for defense.

Wait is that a joke, or did you just not see what they did to Malcolm Brown a couple weeks ago? Aside from Malcolm Brown's 88 yard TD run, Madison shut Brown down pretty darn well compared to any other defense thus far. Especially when you consider that ALL Steele did was give him the ball EVERY play.

[CCDawgs]

Its really hard to pick against LT but if they lose this year, this may be the game!

[Texasfrog]

Aledo and Tivy will be tough to beat. I'll have to say both games are 50-50 right now and could go either way.

[BrianFolsom]

48-2 much?

what do you all think about this week?

[titus211]

Does Tivy play any defense?

[Ltcav83]

48-2 much?

what do you all think about this week?

Hey mr. 48-2 much. You will get your chance.

[DEL VALLE]

Carter told reporters after the game that Brewer may miss one or two more weeks, just to be safe.

Tivy will win this one.

[clemensbuff]

Does Tivy play any defense?

Do you do anything but Troll??

They held Madison to enough points to beat them and Steele as well! Last time I checked as long as you have one more point then you opponent, YOU WIN dufus!

That said, if Brewer doesn't play I'll go with Tivy for the simple fact that I do not know if LT can get their offense going enough to 'outscore' KT. It will be a good game either way this week at LT! Tivy's offense is the real deal. You dont hang 39 on Madison and 54 on Steele without being good, and Manziel is much better then just good.

I do think LT will come out with a lot of fire against them after the loss. I believe that the loss actually will help LT and hurt Tivy's chance a little bit. Had LT beaten Aledo, I believe KT's chances of winning would have been much better.

[BrianFolsom]

Hey mr. 48-2 much. You will get your chance.

whoa now I'm not saying, I'm just saying...

I mean if I'm being completely honest with a no homer/no hater opinion, then fine I will say it:

LT would probably win this game if they had Brewer and Floyd.

BUT let's state FACTS:
-LT's FULL roster took ALL 4 quarters to beat Westlake (0-3)
-LT gave up 24 points to Hendrickson (1-2) and barely came out with the W
-LT only put up 10 points on Aledo

-Tivy put up 39 on SA Madison's defense
-Tivy put up 54 on Cibolo Steele

39= The LEAST amount of points Tivy has scored.
34= The LEAST amount of points Tivy has given up.

34= The MOST amount of points LT has scored.
24= The MOST amount of points LT has given up.

With those facts alone, you know that Tivy has a good offense, but NO defense. However, LT only gave up 14 to Aledo (the "BEST" 4A team in Texas... we'll just go ahead and leave that in quotes for now), so you know they have some standard of defense.

That said, Tivy will score 28 points this game, LT will score 21 without Brewer

[twolf5]

I've always said this and been criticized by shamu and others when it applied to our team last year. In high school it's almost impossible to overcome significant injury to key players. Your just not the same team period. That's what lt is dealing with. I'm frankly amazed hay played aledo that close. I think ivy is better than aledo and will beat LT Friday if brewer doesn't play. I would not have said that if brewer and Floyd were healthy.

I wish I could see it. Actually heck we can see it since we play Thursday. Where's the game??:heli:

[AHSeagles]

I'm picking Tivy in this one. Manziel has been playing out of his mind!

[wolfpack4life]

Hoping Tivy wins, with Brewer and Floyd playing. That way....well..

Ya' Know.;)

[twolf5]

Hoping Tivy wins, with Brewer and Floyd playing. That way....well..

Ya' Know.;)

Floyd is out for the year with a badly broken leg. Very unfortunate for a great athlete.

[wolfpack4life]

Floyd is out for the year with a badly broken leg. Very unfortunate for a great athlete.
What game did this happen?

[BrianFolsom]

What game did this happen?

Game 1 against Westlake :(

[clemensbuff]

I wish I could see it. Actually heck we can see it since we play Thursday. Where's the game??:heli:

At LT!

I agree with you about injuries as well. It is impossible to overcome loosing great players such as LT has this year and just keep on rolling. You don't just plug in players for 'all-staters' and not have a big drop off, I don't care how deep you are on your roster!

[Ltcav83]

Floyd is out for the year with a badly broken leg. Very unfortunate for a great athlete.

Conner will likely be back for the Marble Falls game ( the second to last game of the regular season ) if his leg heals properly. The "clean" break was actually a good thing and he had no damage anywhere else.

[Ltcav83]

whoa now I'm not saying, I'm just saying...

I mean if I'm being completely honest with a no homer/no hater opinion, then fine I will say it:

LT would probably win this game if they had Brewer and Floyd.

BUT let's state FACTS:
-LT's FULL roster took ALL 4 quarters to beat Westlake (0-3)
-LT gave up 24 points to Hendrickson (1-2) and barely came out with the W
-LT only put up 10 points on Aledo

-Tivy put up 39 on SA Madison's defense
-Tivy put up 54 on Cibolo Steele

39= The LEAST amount of points Tivy has scored.
34= The LEAST amount of points Tivy has given up.

34= The MOST amount of points LT has scored.
24= The MOST amount of points LT has given up.

With those facts alone, you know that Tivy has a good offense, but NO defense. However, LT only gave up 14 to Aledo (the "BEST" 4A team in Texas... we'll just go ahead and leave that in quotes for now), so you know they have some standard of defense.

That said, Tivy will score 28 points this game, LT will score 21 without Brewer

That is a fair post and a fair prediction. I do not think that the LT offense without Brewer, Floyd and their starting center, who broke his leg in the 1st quarter of the Aledo game, will be able to score enough points to beat a great Tivy offense.

LT, at this point, just wants to have all of their players back by the second to last game of the season and go into the playoffs healthy if they can.

[twolf5]

That is a fair post and a fair prediction. I do not think that the LT offense without Brewer, Floyd and their starting center, who broke his leg in the 1st quarter of the Aledo game, will be able to score enough points to beat a great Tivy offense.

LT, at this point, just wants to have all of their players back by the second to last game of the season and go into the playoffs healthy if they can.

Dang man I'm sorry to hear that about your center. The good news is you can walk through district (other than maybe Vista) with your backups. I hope yall are all healthy by week 10 so we can have a barn burner heading into the playoffs.

[twolf5]

I just watched the youtube video of Tivy vs. Steele. They are a good team, but not what I was expecting to see. I'm changing my pick to LT. It will likely be a score fest, but I don't think Tivy will stop LT and I think LT will find a way to slow down that spread of Tivy. I was surprised at how small Tivy is.

I'll be there to watch!

[BrianFolsom]

That is a fair post and a fair prediction. I do not think that the LT offense without Brewer, Floyd and their starting center, who broke his leg in the 1st quarter of the Aledo game, will be able to score enough points to beat a great Tivy offense.

LT, at this point, just wants to have all of their players back by the second to last game of the season and go into the playoffs healthy if they can.

wow i didn't even know about that injury... ONE THING IS FOR SURE, LT DEFINITELY WENT DOWN SWINGING!!!

All those injuries and only a 4 point deficit, not bad... not bad at all!

[slcdragonfan]

wow i didn't even know about that injury... ONE THING IS FOR SURE, LT DEFINITELY WENT DOWN SWINGING!!!

All those injuries and only a 4 point deficit, not bad... not bad at all!

I concur.

[clemensbuff]

I just watched the youtube video of Tivy vs. Steele. They are a good team, but not what I was expecting to see. I'm changing my pick to LT. It will likely be a score fest, but I don't think Tivy will stop LT and I think LT will find a way to slow down that spread of Tivy. I was surprised at how small Tivy is.

I'll be there to watch!

Hey twolf5, I agree that Tivy is not huge by any means, but they do have decent size up front. What they are is lean and in great shape and can run all night and then some. They probably don't have a lineman over 260, but they are all quick and strong and play great technique. To be honest, I like Tivy's chances against LT this week and if Brewer doesn't go, I think they will win. It is very hard for anyone to grasp just how good Johnny Manziel is until you witness him first hand. I do believe LT will do a better job of containing him then both Steele and Madison did, but I do not believe for a second they will come close to stopping him or that offense.

This could be a great game to watch!

[SV61]

Another thing to think about, regarding Tivy's O-Line.

They have good size for a 4A School.

They are all Seniors.

They have been playing as a unit, since 7th grade. These guys know one another very well.

[twolf5]

Another thing to think about, regarding Tivy's O-Line.

They have good size for a 4A School.

They are all Seniors.

They have been playing as a unit, since 7th grade. These guys know one another very well.

I looked at their roster on line. It looks like they have a kid or two that are 240, and everyone else is <200 lbs. That's not great size for 4A. But their scheme they run allows them to use what they have very well obviously. They spread the field like Mike Leach used to do with two yards splits, and if you give Manziel 10 seconds every play to throw like Steele did he's going to kill you.

It's pretty funny actually when you compare our team to Tivy. We're exactly the opposite. Huge, no stars on the team like Manziel, but just a bunch of solid football players that line up and come right at you. Check out this youtube video that was put together for our Junior left guard Felix Romero (6'3" 300 lbs). But it will give you an idea of how drastically different Cedar Park is from how Tivy makes it go. You gotta love high school football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFFXORRf2zw

By comparison, our right guard #65 is the size of Tivy's largest player if their roster is correct. He looks really small on our line, but he's a great player for us.

[mywolfpack]

I looked at their roster on line. It looks like they have a kid or two that are 240, and everyone else is <200 lbs. That's not great size for 4A. But their scheme they run allows them to use what they have very well obviously. They spread the field like Mike Leach used to do with two yards splits, and if you give Manziel 10 seconds every play to throw like Steele did he's going to kill you.

It's pretty funny actually when you compare our team to Tivy. We're exactly the opposite. Huge, no stars on the team like Manziel, but just a bunch of solid football players that line up and come right at you. Check out this youtube video that was put together for our Junior left guard Felix Romero (6'3" 300 lbs). But it will give you an idea of how drastically different Cedar Park is from how Tivy makes it go. You gotta love high school football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFFXORRf2zw

By comparison, our right guard #65 is the size of Tivy's largest player if their roster is correct. He looks really small on our line, but he's a great player for us.

Great video--Felix and the rest of this unit have done an outstanding job this year.

[clemensbuff]

I looked at their roster on line. It looks like they have a kid or two that are 240, and everyone else is <200 lbs. That's not great size for 4A. But their scheme they run allows them to use what they have very well obviously. They spread the field like Mike Leach used to do with two yards splits, and if you give Manziel 10 seconds every play to throw like Steele did he's going to kill you.

It's pretty funny actually when you compare our team to Tivy. We're exactly the opposite. Huge, no stars on the team like Manziel, but just a bunch of solid football players that line up and come right at you. Check out this youtube video that was put together for our Junior left guard Felix Romero (6'3" 300 lbs). But it will give you an idea of how drastically different Cedar Park is from how Tivy makes it go. You gotta love high school football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFFXORRf2zw

By comparison, our right guard #65 is the size of Tivy's largest player if their roster is correct. He looks really small on our line, but he's a great player for us.


Romero is a man amonst boys! Kid has great feet and is quick for his size. If he keeps his head straight, works hard, and keeps from getting hurt, he'll play on Sundays!

Here's the problem with Tivy and Manziel. You have to pick your poison. If you rush 3 or 4 down linemen they will not get to him! If you blitz, he'll scramble until he finds an open reciever or simply run through your defense for big gains. The kid is strong, runs hard, and is cat quick! He can accelerate from standing still to top speed in 3 steps and he makes people grab air!!! I am telling you this kid is special. I've been a huge HS FB fan for 25+ years and watch 20+ games every year and he is the best HS QB I've seen!

The only way you can slow him up IMO is to man up on all the receivers, control rush 4 guys and force him to run up the gut. Then you've got to have extremely quick LBs that can come up and make the tackle on him! Easier said then done. To my dismay, we stood back in a zone almost the entire night and let him just completely pick us to pieces! Nobody will beat Tivy's offense by doing this! You will have to get pressure on him but still have the personel to somehow tackle him. That is what upset me about the way we defensed that offense. We've got a very athletic defense and the DBs can all run very well and the LBs are 4.5, 4.5, and 4.6 and yet we stand around in a zone????!!!!

CP and LT both have the personel to get it done as well and it will be interesting to see if LT can do it this Friday. CP may just get their chance as well in the playoffs.

SV, KT, CP, and LT all in D1..............OMG!:eek:

[clemensbuff]

Great video--Felix and the rest of this unit have done an outstanding job this year.


I have to say after watching that clip that CP's O-line is very impressive indeed! I saw a lot of talent on the field for CP and I'm actually dismayed as to how LT was able to do what they did to CP last year. I'm betting this year will be a much, much closer battle!

[twolf5]

I have to say after watching that clip that CP's O-line is very impressive indeed! I saw a lot of talent on the field for CP and I'm actually dismayed as to how LT was able to do what they did to CP last year. I'm betting this year will be a much, much closer battle!

They killed us last year. Couple of reasons why this year will be somewhat different. We are much much better than last year. LT isn't quite as good primarily because of Andy erickson graduating and floyd getting hurt. And last year they played the game of their lives against us.

This year will be different. I'm by no means predicting victory. But a good hard fought battle is a guarantee.

[SV61]

I looked at their roster on line. It looks like they have a kid or two that are 240, and everyone else is <200 lbs. That's not great size for 4A. But their scheme they run allows them to use what they have very well obviously. They spread the field like Mike Leach used to do with two yards splits, and if you give Manziel 10 seconds every play to throw like Steele did he's going to kill you.

It's pretty funny actually when you compare our team to Tivy. We're exactly the opposite. Huge, no stars on the team like Manziel, but just a bunch of solid football players that line up and come right at you. Check out this youtube video that was put together for our Junior left guard Felix Romero (6'3" 300 lbs). But it will give you an idea of how drastically different Cedar Park is from how Tivy makes it go. You gotta love high school football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFFXORRf2zw

By comparison, our right guard #65 is the size of Tivy's largest player if their roster is correct. He looks really small on our line, but he's a great player for us.

Yea, that is what I was trying to point out. They have GOOD size, not GREAT size.

The other point, was how long these kids have played as a unit, together. That means something. Even if you can't quantify any advantage, the perception in these kids heads, is already an advantage.

[twolf5]

Yea, that is what I was trying to point out. They have GOOD size, not GREAT size.

The other point, was how long these kids have played as a unit, together. That means something. Even if you can't quantify any advantage, the perception in these kids heads, is already an advantage.


Hey don't get me wrong this is a huge point. And they are very good with the talent they have. Their scheme makes the absolute most of what they have and their kids are tough as nails and very aggressive. You can see that for sure.

I hope we get a shot at them. I'd love to see the total clash of two completely different teams. We couldn't be farther from what they are, with a huge option running oriented team vs. their spread. Fun stuff.

We've played outstanding D1 running backs like Lache Seastrunk year after year after year, so the QB while certainly VERY good won't be a shock to our system.

[clemensbuff]

Hey don't get me wrong this is a huge point. And they are very good with the talent they have. Their scheme makes the absolute most of what they have and their kids are tough as nails and very aggressive. You can see that for sure.
Exactly right. They play the game that suits their personel to a 'T'!

I hope we get a shot at them. I'd love to see the total clash of two completely different teams. We couldn't be farther from what they are, with a huge option running oriented team vs. their spread. Fun stuff.
This would be a very interesting matchup for sure. I'd love to see it!

We've played outstanding D1 running backs like Lache Seastrunk year after year after year, so the QB while certainly VERY good won't be a shock to our system.

Yes, but Johnny M has the rock every play in his hands and can scramble out of the pocket, and fire the ball just at the line of scrimmage, and hit a knat on it's *** at 40 yards! That is the difference between Manziel and a great RB. Heck, they weathered 353 yds from M Brown the other night and came out of it smelling like a rose.

Bottom line is that I believe they will be all LT wants to handle this week and a matchup between KT and CP would most likely be one heck of a shootout and fun to watch!

[Semperfi]

It's a long season, guys, so don't throw LT too far under the bus just yet. Aledo beat us by 4 points without our QB, RB, for the entire game and we lost our center at 1/2 time. Wow, that is quite an accomplishment!

Let's not forget that we still have a record of 48-1. :)

[Ex LT player]

I'll be the first to tell you we got beat by Aledo. We had a chance to win and we got beat, regardless of injuries. Of course I think injuries played a part in the outcome of the game, but we still had a shot to win and that's all you can ask for.

As for Tivy, Manziel is the real deal. I think our defense will have some packages to confuse him and will pick LT 27-Tivy 21 if LT comes out like I think they will after a loss.

[twolf5]

It's a long season, guys, so don't throw LT too far under the bus just yet. Aledo beat us by 4 points without our QB, RB, for the entire game and we lost our center at 1/2 time. Wow, that is quite an accomplishment!

Let's not forget that we still have a record of 48-1. :)

I think LT wins even with those kids out. I'm with you

[Shamu85]

They killed us last year. Couple of reasons why this year will be somewhat different. We are much much better than last year. LT isn't quite as good primarily because of Andy erickson graduating and floyd getting hurt. And last year they played the game of their lives against us.

This year will be different. I'm by no means predicting victory. But a good hard fought battle is a guarantee.

My criticism about your use of injuries as an excuse last year was more about - we lost by 4, injured players may have made a difference - as opposed to - we lost by >35, no way no how injuries made that much of a difference. Plus, to lose a QB the caliber of Brewer is a lot bigger hit to your team's performance than a linebacker, even if that linebacker is a solid college prospect.

I think LT wins this one because they are still a VERY good team, even with the injuries. They flat get after it. Their D played pretty well last week, too, and KT is the kind of one man team that LT usually has field days with, a la Pearland Dawson last year.

[twolf5]

My criticism about your use of injuries as an excuse last year was more about - we lost by 4, injured players may have made a difference - as opposed to - we lost by >35, no way no how injuries made that much of a difference. Plus, to lose a QB the caliber of Brewer is a lot bigger hit to your team's performance than a linebacker, even if that linebacker is a solid college prospect.

I think LT wins this one because they are still a VERY good team, even with the injuries. They flat get after it. Their D played pretty well last week, too, and KT is the kind of one man team that LT usually has field days with, a la Pearland Dawson last year.

Dude, really?? Go back to cheering on your eagles. You have no idea what happened to cedar park last year as we lost 9 starters, INCLUDING OUR QB, to injury all at the same time. But why do I waste my time even responding to you. Won't happen again.

[Bruig]

Dude, really?? Go back to cheering on your eagles. You have no idea what happened to cedar park last year as we lost 9 starters, INCLUDING OUR QB, to injury all at the same time. But why do I waste my time even responding to you. Won't happen again.

Unfortunately Shamu's internet is down. However, he wanted me to express his regret for making you cry twolf5. Don't kill the messenger, just helping a bro out when technology fails.

[twolf5]

Unfortunately Shamu's internet is down. However, he wanted me to express his regret for making you cry twolf5. Don't kill the messenger, just helping a bro out when technology fails.

Ha, so glad to see Shamu has a friend. He needs one. :heli:

[titus211]

A team that plays ZERO defense will hold LT to 21 points?

[Shamu85]

Ha, so glad to see Shamu has a friend. He needs one. :heli:

Oh twolf, quit your sniveling. I do agree with you on one thing; Cedar Park has a much better team this year, but not because they are healthy. Besides, Hogan or whatever his name is, the 135 lb QB is a way better QB than Thornhill was. Thornhill is a great athlete, but the little guy plays with much more intensity that flows through to the whole team.

[twolf5]

A team that plays ZERO defense will hold LT to 21 points?

If this is reffering to Tivy, there's no way LT only scores 21 even if Lagasse is the QB. Tivy's defense is not THAT good. No where near the quality of their offense.

I'm still picking LT in this one 35-28. I think they'll play better D than Steele did. We shall see.

[Defense wins championship]

Steele admits that their rush 3 and defend the pass strategy didn't work. It is nice to have a guy like Hank Carter preparing the 3-time defending champions for a game like this! The denfense is fired up and I suspect will bring some serious heat...early and often!!! As usual, Tivy wants the ball first and regardless of who wins the toss...will get it. I'll take the Cavs.

[clemensbuff]

Steele admits that their rush 3 and defend the pass strategy didn't work. It is nice to have a guy like Hank Carter preparing the 3-time defending champions for a game like this! The denfense is fired up and I suspect will bring some serious heat...early and often!!! As usual, Tivy wants the ball first and regardless of who wins the toss...will get it. I'll take the Cavs.


Welcome to the board Defense wins championship! Sounds like you are in the know on what is going to happen tonight!!! Are you possibly an LT player???:D

[Defense wins championship]

Welcome to the board Defense wins championship! Sounds like you are in the know on what is going to happen tonight!!! Are you possibly an LT player???:D

Just a fan. I watched footage of Tivy/Steele game. There were several plays where Manziel is standing flat footed for 5+ seconds, scanning the field and promptly picking apart the Steele secondary. Then, I looked at the O line for Tivy to try and figure out why he had so much time. They are not very big. No pressure on a guy with that much talent will get you a L every time.

LTs D is full strength. Carter's DC backgroud has helped LT develop one of the best game-day strategies in Texas. LTs D is big and aggressive with mixed packages/blitzes that will minimize points (not necessarily yards). Tivy's small O line is going to have a long day and Manziel will get pounded. Red zones are tough for opponents.

Tivy's D, well, you know...

[SVite]

My criticism about your use of injuries as an excuse last year was more about - we lost by 4, injured players may have made a difference - as opposed to - we lost by >35, no way no how injuries made that much of a difference. Plus, to lose a QB the caliber of Brewer is a lot bigger hit to your team's performance than a linebacker, even if that linebacker is a solid college prospect.

I think LT wins this one because they are still a VERY good team, even with the injuries. They flat get after it. Their D played pretty well last week, too, and KT is the kind of one man team that LT usually has field days with, a la Pearland Dawson last year.

Yeah right. What did one player, brett farve do for the vikings last year? With out Brett they might have been .500, maybe.

How many years did it take Dallas to replace troy aikman, (romo)then dallas started winning again. When Irvin lost his wr gig with dallas, how many years did take to replace him? Teams stacked the line and dared dallas to throw it, they had no threat at wr.

I`m using just a few nfl players that we as texans remember, or the whole world knows about (farve). One All stater being out changes all kinds of phases of a game, just fact. There might be a fantastic backup waiting to be dicovered with great play, but the odds are against that happening.

Of course IMO ;) i know you did`nt ask.....

[Shamu85]

Yeah right. What did one player, brett farve do for the vikings last year? With out Brett they might have been .500, maybe.

How many years did it take Dallas to replace troy aikman, (romo)then dallas started winning again. When Irvin lost his wr gig with dallas, how many years did take to replace him? Teams stacked the line and dared dallas to throw it, they had no threat at wr.

I`m using just a few nfl players that we as texans remember, or the whole world knows about (farve). One All stater being out changes all kinds of phases of a game, just fact. There might be a fantastic backup waiting to be dicovered with great play, but the odds are against that happening.

Of course IMO ;) i know you did`nt ask.....

Cedar Park did have some key injuries last year, and at one point they may have had 9 starters out, though that was not against LT. They just flat got their arses beat against LT. I was never really that impressed with them last year, and even in the game against SP, SP looked unimpressive more than CP looked impressive. That's the worst game I have seen SP play in 3 years. Still not sure how CPs 135 lb QB doesn't get his whole body broken. Kid's tough, I'll say that for him.

[longhorn3]

Just a fan. I watched footage of Tivy/Steele game. There were several plays where Manziel is standing flat footed for 5+ seconds, scanning the field and promptly picking apart the Steele secondary. Then, I looked at the O line for Tivy to try and figure out why he had so much time. They are not very big. No pressure on a guy with that much talent will get you a L every time.

LTs D is full strength. Carter's DC backgroud has helped LT develop one of the best game-day strategies in Texas. LTs D is big and aggressive with mixed packages/blitzes that will minimize points (not necessarily yards). Tivy's small O line is going to have a long day and Manziel will get pounded. Red zones are tough for opponents.

Tivy's D, well, you know...

I am going to be very honest with you..your statement about manziel getting pounded is very false...Madison was in Tivy's backfield every play and he kept eluding them..its not that tivys line is good or great or has good technique..its the fact that manziel will avoid the rush no matter what..you might get to him once a half but that will be just about all, i dont care who you have on defense...Steele has 3 D-1 defenders on that side of the ball and he hung up a ton of points..madison has a good d-line and he avoided them like the plague...I do think that LT will be a tough battle for Tivy..only way to beat them is to outscore them...im not sure they will be held under 40 again this season..

[BrianFolsom]

Cedar Park did have some key injuries last year, and at one point they may have had 9 starters out, though that was not against LT. They just flat got their arses beat against LT. I was never really that impressed with them last year, and even in the game against SP, SP looked unimpressive more than CP looked impressive. That's the worst game I have seen SP play in 3 years. Still not sure how CPs 135 lb QB doesn't get his whole body broken. Kid's tough, I'll say that for him.

(if i could bold everything in your statement to make it ALL stand out then i would, but it would just be redundant)

I agree with all of this... especially your last two sentences... whenever i saw Hogan next to stony point's defense, I honestly thought Hogan was going to die... like literally die, not just get injured, but seriously endure a straight up two hit death: Wade hits hogan, hogan hits the ground

but sure enough, the kid is tough

[twolf5]

If this is reffering to Tivy, there's no way LT only scores 21 even if Lagasse is the QB. Tivy's defense is not THAT good. No where near the quality of their offense.

I'm still picking LT in this one 35-28. I think they'll play better D than Steele did. We shall see.

Yes I'm quoting myself and saying way to go LT! Almost exactly as I predicted. OK but dude, that QB is a total and complete stud. 300 yards rushing and 200 yards passing. Are you kidding me!!!????

Oh and it's 11:39 Gtownshamu is still an idiot.

[cggm]

Saw the game and I have to say that I was not impressed with either team's overall performance. Tivy QB is a STUD, but a one man show. LT is not the team that I've watched for the last 2 years. I will give them credit and say they play with a lot of heart and never quit playing hard. You can never count them out, but I think they will have a tough time in the playlets this year.

[twolf5]

Saw the game and I have to say that I was not impressed with either team's overall performance. Tivy QB is a STUD, but a one man show. LT is not the team that I've watched for the last 2 years. I will give them credit and say they play with a lot of heart and never quit playing hard. You can never count them out, but I think they will have a tough time in the playlets this year.

Here's the biggest difference in those two teams. LT lost their qb, replaced him and still won. If ivy lost manzeil, they they would have lost by 30 points. That is a one man team and most everyone from tivy knows it as well.

But I will have to give it to the coaches. That's the best system to showcase ONE player I've ever seen in my life. Simply amazing.

[cggm]

Here's the biggest difference in those two teams. LT lost their qb, replaced him and still won. If ivy lost manzeil, they they would have lost by 30 points. That is a one man team and most everyone from tivy knows it as well.

But I will have to give it to the coaches. That's the best system to showcase ONE player I've ever seen in my life. Simply amazing.

I agree on both points twolf5, but even with Brewer in the game, I don't believe they come close to being the caliber of their last 2 seasons. Not saying they won't go deep in the playoffs, but I think it will be a tough road AND I don't see them being the last team standing. Still a great program and they deserve plenty of credit!

[clemensbuff]

I agree on both points twolf5, but even with Brewer in the game, I don't believe they come close to being the caliber of their last 2 seasons. Not saying they won't go deep in the playoffs, but I think it will be a tough road AND I don't see them being the last team standing. Still a great program and they deserve plenty of credit!


OK, who do you see beating them once tgey get Brewer back? How about if Floyd makes it back as well? CP is the only team in R4 that maybe can do it! The D2 champ beats them by 4, and KT couldnt beat them without Brewer and Floyd in the game so my thought is that LT is without a doubt still the tram to beat in D1.

Manziel put up 467 of KT's 483 yards and Tivy has about 150 more yards of offense yet LT picks off a pass in the endzone at tye end of the game to seal it! IMO, they showed last night exactly why they have won 3 straight!!!

[cggm]

OK, who do you see beating them once tgey get Brewer back? How about if Floyd makes it back as well? CP is the only team in R4 that maybe can do it! The D2 champ beats them by 4, and KT couldnt beat them without Brewer and Floyd in the game so my thought is that LT is without a doubt still the tram to beat in D1.

Manziel put up 467 of KT's 483 yards and Tivy has about 150 more yards of offense yet LT picks off a pass in the endzone at tye end of the game to seal it! IMO, they showed last night exactly why they have won 3 straight!!!

Last night LT showed they have a lot of heart, determination, and will to win However, i just don't see the level of talent i've seen in the past!

Tivy's last drive of the game was questionable to say the least. The Tivy QB had a 20 yard run and got his team down to the LT 20 yard line with 2+ minutes remaining and 3 timeoutsHenie last 2 plays were passes with the last one being forced for an interception. Good defense? Yes! However, the QB had been running through, around, and over LT's defense all night. He rushed into the end zone 2 times up the middle and was untouched. In that situation,
If their star player keeps the ball, we may have a different outcome. Coulda, shoulda, woulda, if!

And YES, LT is going to have all they can handle with CP in regular season with a good possibility of going head-to-head again in the playoffs.

It's going to be fun to watch!

[slcdragonfan]

Last night LT showed they have a lot of heart, determination, and will to win However, i just don't see the level of talent i've seen in the past!

Tivy's last drive of the game was questionable to say the least. The Tivy QB had a 20 yard run and got his team down to the LT 20 yard line with 2+ minutes remaining and 3 timeoutsHenie last 2 plays were passes with the last one being forced for an interception. Good defense? Yes! However, the QB had been running through, around, and over LT's defense all night. He rushed into the end zone 2 times up the middle and was untouched. In that situation,
If their star player keeps the ball, we may have a different outcome. Coulda, shoulda, woulda, if!

And YES, LT is going to have all they can handle with CP in regular season with a good possibility of going head-to-head again in the playoffs.

It's going to be fun to watch!

Maybe that's because they are sitting on the sidelines injured?

[cggm]

Maybe that's because they are sitting on the sidelines injured?

Missing my point.....but that's ok

[slcdragonfan]

Missing my point.....but that's ok

Which was....? Not trying to be difficult, just want to understand. Was it that Tivy could have won if the QB keeps the ball? That LT's defense has fallen off?

For me, the point is, LT beat a very good team in Tivy, with their starting QB, a starting Center? (O-Line for sure), and a starting WR (probably D1) out of the game. That is talent and depth. Not many with an offfense like LT's could afford to lose their starting QB, PLUS the other two. :)

[hillcountry]

Let me help you out cggm. LT had not shown it's crisp offensive power in game one with WL before Floyd got hurt or game 2 with Hendrickson before Brewer went out. With multi threat Andy Erikson gone, (grad last year) the LT offense has looked a little unsettled. With that said, I know the heart of these kids and the coaches ability to develop plays that utilize the players skills. This team will continue to mature with starters (#2 Wrinkle, #3 Pojman, #13 Strueling, etc) and alternate kids doing a great job (#82 Cavil, #26 Balazs - sounds like Blaze, etc) to play some excellent football. I'm personally impressed that Laggasse comes in from his DB role and has lead the offense well. Yea, a few mistakes I know. Granted he was the LT Freshman QB so he has some experience in the role. Anyway... A few less mistakes during Aledo game and we're talking 49-0. I trust maturity will minimize mistakes. LT will need to grow (as everyone else will) through conference play and get ready for the challenges the playoffs will bring. One More Moakes Four! Let's Roll!

[cggm]

Which was....? Not trying to be difficult, just want to understand. Was it that Tivy could have won if the QB keeps the ball? That LT's defense has fallen off?

For me, the point is, LT beat a very good team in Tivy, with their starting QB, a starting Center? (O-Line for sure), and a starting WR (probably D1) out of the game. That is talent and depth. Not many with an offfense like LT's could afford to lose their starting QB, PLUS the other two. :)

IMO Tivy is not a very good TEAM! My point is that LT is not as strong on BOTH sides of the ball as I've seen in the past. Yes, the players that are injured are a huge loss. If the LT defense has that much trouble containing a one dimensional team like Tivy, they certainly won't be able to contain a offensive team with a multitude of play makers.

Still a good team, but I'm comparing to the last couple of seasons that I observed.

[slcdragonfan]

Let me help you out cggm. LT had not shown it's crisp offensive power in game one with WL before Floyd got hurt or game 2 with Hendrickson before Brewer went out. With multi threat Andy Erikson gone, (grad last year) the LT offense has looked a little unsettled. With that said, I know the heart of these kids and the coaches ability to develop plays that utilize the players skills. This team will continue to mature with starters (#2 Wrinkle, #3 Pojman, #13 Strueling, etc) and alternate kids doing a great job (#82 Cavil, #26 Balazs - sounds like Blaze, etc) to play some excellent football. I'm personally impressed that Laggasse comes in from his DB role and has lead the offense well. Yea, a few mistakes I know. Granted he was the LT Freshman QB so he has some experience in the role. Anyway... A few less mistakes during Aledo game and we're talking 49-0. I trust maturity will minimize mistakes. LT will need to grow (as everyone else will) through conference play and get ready for the challenges the playoffs will bring. One More Moakes Four! Let's Roll!

OK, I get it. Instead of looking all-galaxy, they actually look more like a normal outstanding team. ;)

I have seen that trajectory before.

[Defense wins championship]

I am going to be very honest with you..your statement about manziel getting pounded is very false...Madison was in Tivy's backfield every play and he kept eluding them..its not that tivys line is good or great or has good technique..its the fact that manziel will avoid the rush no matter what..you might get to him once a half but that will be just about all, i dont care who you have on defense...Steele has 3 D-1 defenders on that side of the ball and he hung up a ton of points..madison has a good d-line and he avoided them like the plague...I do think that LT will be a tough battle for Tivy..only way to beat them is to outscore them...im not sure they will be held under 40 again this season..

Manziel is a hard guy to get a clean shot at...very impressive! The under 40 thing...well, you know. LT's D is not a shut down D...never has been AND no D1 prospects...sounds familiar. It is one that gets better as the game goes on and minimizes red zone opportunities. Tivy's a good team and I know LT would love to play them again.

[cggm]

OK, I get it. Instead of looking all-galaxy, they actually look more like a normal outstanding team. ;)

I have seen that trajectory before.

When a team is nationally ranked they get looked at a little more in depth than average bear.....You win.....They are outstanding!

[Defense wins championship]

IMO Tivy is not a very good TEAM! My point is that LT is not as strong on BOTH sides of the ball as I've seen in the past. Yes, the players that are injured are a huge loss. If the LT defense has that much trouble containing a one dimensional team like Tivy, they certainly won't be able to contain a offensive team with a multitude of play makers.

Still a good team, but I'm comparing to the last couple of seasons that I observed.

Like who in 4A (or 5A for that matter)?

[Ltcav83]

IMO Tivy is not a very good TEAM! My point is that LT is not as strong on BOTH sides of the ball as I've seen in the past. Yes, the players that are injured are a huge loss. If the LT defense has that much trouble containing a one dimensional team like Tivy, they certainly won't be able to contain a offensive team with a multitude of play makers.

Still a good team, but I'm comparing to the last couple of seasons that I observed.

You make some valid points and I agree with some of them, but if you take the two best offensive players off of ANY high school team, they would struggle to beat alot of teams much less the nos. 2 and 5 teams in the state. Lets not forget that LT has played three of the very best players in Texas ( Kenny Williams, Jonathon Gray and Johnny Manziel ) in the past three weeks. LT will not play against any individual players that good again until we meet Tivy again in the quarterfinals:).

LT showed why they are a champion last night. Tivy had that game and LT just willed themselves back in it. If I were LT's future opponents, I would be very worried about the prospect of Michael Brewer and Conner Floyd ( two all state players) coming back and moving Colin Lagasse to tailback and the coming emergence of Dannon Cavil at WR. Dannon is a soph. transfer who broke out last night. He is 6'3" and 200 pounds and very fast. When you get him going with Griffin Gilbert, Conner Floyd and Lagasse at RB, teams will have alot of trouble. Do not be fooled, LT has lots of talent. Lets just watch what happens.

Now, for Johnny Manziel. He is one of the top 5 high school players that I have seen in person watching hs football since 1970. Some others are Craig James, Malcolm Brown and Garrett Gilbert. He was toying with LT and I could not believe what I was seeing. He is the coolest customer that I have ever seen. LT could barely even play their big DT's because they had NO shot at tackling Manziel even if they were 1 foot away. Manziel changes the way that a team can play defense against him. I guess that you would just have to have seen it to believe it.

[SilverHairedDad]

OK, who do you see beating them once tgey get Brewer back? How about if Floyd makes it back as well? CP is the only team in R4 that maybe can do it! The D2 champ beats them by 4, and KT couldnt beat them without Brewer and Floyd in the game so my thought is that LT is without a doubt still the tram to beat in D1.

Manziel put up 467 of KT's 483 yards and Tivy has about 150 more yards of offense yet LT picks off a pass in the endzone at tye end of the game to seal it! IMO, they showed last night exactly why they have won 3 straight!!!


I would not count out the old SV, my opinion is coach Hill can scheme his way by a team with one player (tivy) albeit great and I believe he has built this team to compete with LT. Not saying we can beat them this year but intimidated no, it will not be a cake walk for sure. Region 4 has a host of excellent teams for the playoffs, the question is who can be ready with weaker district schedules, I for one give Coach Hill an advantage in that department.

GO RANGERS!

[BrianFolsom]

OK, who do you see beating them once tgey get Brewer back? How about if Floyd makes it back as well? CP is the only team in R4 that maybe can do it! The D2 champ beats them by 4, and KT couldnt beat them without Brewer and Floyd in the game so my thought is that LT is without a doubt still the tram to beat in D1.

Manziel put up 467 of KT's 483 yards and Tivy has about 150 more yards of offense yet LT picks off a pass in the endzone at tye end of the game to seal it! IMO, they showed last night exactly why they have won 3 straight!!!

Not trying to start anything up, but I just want to put a little more emphasis on your "maybe" team...

Cedar Park has shut down every QB + WR team they have played, including a 56-0 shut out of Austin High.

As for right now, Cedar Park is absolutely better than LT, but Week 10 will obviously be completely different so we will cross that bridge when we get there.

[Ex LT player]

Not trying to start anything up, but I just want to put a little more emphasis on your "maybe" team...

Cedar Park has shut down every QB + WR team they have played, including a 56-0 shut out of Austin High.

As for right now, Cedar Park is absolutely better than LT, but Week 10 will obviously be completely different so we will cross that bridge when we get there.

Austin High didn't have Cayleb Jones, but yes, so far, they have. Hopefully Brewer and Floyd are back by Week 10 :)

[clemensbuff]

I would not count out the old SV, my opinion is coach Hill can scheme his way by a team with one player (tivy) albeit great and I believe he has built this team to compete with LT. Not saying we can beat them this year but intimidated no, it will not be a cake walk for sure. Region 4 has a host of excellent teams for the playoffs, the question is who can be ready with weaker district schedules, I for one give Coach Hill an advantage in that department.

GO RANGERS!


SiverHairedDad, I like the way you think and post but I don't care who you are and what your game plan is, you will not shut down Johnny Manziel. Until you go watch this kid play, you won't understand that statement. Once your team faces him, you will! I respect coach Hill and SV very much and know what kind of D SV brings to the table but this kid is on a totally different level then any other player in the State, maybe the nation. In the last three weeks he's led his team to a 2-1 record against Madison, Steele, & LT. He has had all but about 30 of his teams total yards in those three games. If my math is correct, that is well over 1,500 yards against three very athletic teams!!! :eek:

[Ltcav83]

Not trying to start anything up, but I just want to put a little more emphasis on your "maybe" team...

Cedar Park has shut down every QB + WR team they have played, including a 56-0 shut out of Austin High.

As for right now, Cedar Park is absolutely better than LT, but Week 10 will obviously be completely different so we will cross that bridge when we get there.

I don't know that CP is "absolutely" better than LT right now. LT just played the number 1 team in 4A within 4 points and should have won the game and LT just beat the #5 team in 4A. I think that CP has a great team this year and we will all just have to look forward to the last game. It will all be on the line then.
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[titus211]

Called a LT win, because Tivy has no defense and not impressed with wins over SA teams.

[titus211]

I don't know that CP is "absolutely" better than LT right now. LT just played the number 1 team in 4A within 4 points and should have won the game and LT just beat the #5 team in 4A. I think that CP has a great team this year and we will all just have to look forward to the last game. It will all be on the line then.
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Lake Travis beat a top 5 5A team and D1 state finalist w/o their best WR.
Lake Travis lost to the defending D2 4A champs 14-10, minus their QB and WR.
Lake Travis beat a top 10 team in Tivy that had taken out Steele and SA Madison.
Do not crown Cedar Park just yet with victories over average 5A teams at best. They are big and physical, but they don't look very swift and Lake Travis is also big, physical and pretty swift. What will CP do if put in a position of trailing Lake Travis like they have been in the past?

[Ltcav83]

SiverHairedDad, I like the way you think and post but I don't care who you are and what your game plan is, you will not shut down Johnny Manziel. Until you go watch this kid play, you won't understand that statement. Once your team faces him, you will! I respect coach Hill and SV very much and know what kind of D SV brings to the table but this kid is on a totally different level then any other player in the State, maybe the nation. In the last three weeks he's led his team to a 2-1 record against Madison, Steele, & LT. He has had all but about 30 of his teams total yards in those three games. If my math is correct, that is well over 1,500 yards against three very athletic teams!!! :eek:


Johnny Manziel is impossible to defend with any high school defense in Texas. He made LT look slow for most of the night. He changes the personnel that coaches can put on the field. For example, LT only played their big defensive tackle only about 1/4 of the time in the game because they could not have tackled Manziel if they had been even one yard away from him. LT tried everything that coach Carter knew and he just toyed with them. LT is smart, has speed and tackles very well and it did not matter.

I think that Manziel got tired at the end of the game from doing so much, but he is simply amazing. If he played QB for LT, they would punt about twice the entire year and average 60 points a game. If LT and Tivy have a rematch, I would think that a healthy LT would take care of business because of Tivy's defense, but Manziel will put up alot of points on LT or any other defense that he plays against.

[Defense wins championship]

Not trying to start anything up, but I just want to put a little more emphasis on your "maybe" team...

Cedar Park has shut down every QB + WR team they have played, including a 56-0 shut out of Austin High.

As for right now, Cedar Park is absolutely better than LT, but Week 10 will obviously be completely different so we will cross that bridge when we get there.

What a joke! As of right now, CP would compete with LT. With the current line-up, LT has developed a balanced O attack. D is full strength. LT has faced several power running attacks in the past 50 games and lost 1. Without Brewer, Floyd, Gillette and Laney, you are looking at the starting line-up for next season. After a full 2 weeks of working together, they could compete with anyone in the state...right now.

[twolf5]

Cedar Park is NOT better than LT until we prove it on the field. Period. LT knows how to win big games. Cedar PArk is unproven in that area. It's gonna be a fantastic game.

Manziel is a one man wrecking machine that cannot be stopped. I agree. My hope is if we played them we could limit him to 35 points and score 45. Their defense could not stop us either.

Manziel is absolutely incredible

[SV61]

Okay, from what I am gathering.

It sounds like you "let" Manziel run. DON'T let him throw, and when you do let him throw, keep everything in the middle of the field. WHY would I say this?

Manziel had a career night on Friday night, rushing. Tivy "only" score 33.

Had LT STARTED the mold for beating Manziel?

Small, FAST Dline? Three or four man rush? Keep the super big kids on the sideline. Super mobile LBs? DBs, that hug the sidelines, with Safeties over the top?

You gotta start somewhere.

Didn't Steele try rushing two guys???

[Ltcav83]

Okay, from what I am gathering.

It sounds like you "let" Manziel run. DON'T let him throw, and when you do let him throw, keep everything in the middle of the field. WHY would I say this?

Manziel had a career night on Friday night, rushing. Tivy "only" score 33.

Had LT STARTED the mold for beating Manziel?

Small, FAST Dline? Three or four man rush? Keep the super big kids on the sideline. Super mobile LBs? DBs, that hug the sidelines, with Safeties over the top?

You gotta start somewhere.

Didn't Steele try rushing two guys???

The problem is how many teams in this state have players and are as disciplined as LT? And Manziel still ran wild on LT and was, for the most part, unstoppable.

[Semperfi]

Quite frankly, LT has put together a good offensive plan in 2 weeks after losing QB, 2 WR's and the center. How many teams can do that! Just wait until these 4 are healthy again. We will definitely be a force to be reckoned with. Should we meet Tivy again in the playoffs, I have no doubt we will be ready for the challenge. CP has a good team but I know LT will be ready. LT has a lot on the line....One More Makes Four!

[BrianFolsom]

What a joke! As of right now, CP would compete with LT. With the current line-up, LT has developed a balanced O attack. D is full strength. LT has faced several power running attacks in the past 50 games and lost 1. Without Brewer, Floyd, Gillette and Laney, you are looking at the starting line-up for next season. After a full 2 weeks of working together, they could compete with anyone in the state...right now.

Joke? Hmmm, well please allow me to "joke" around some more... this will be fun. :box:
Follow along now, and re-read if you get lost in the facts.


Offense:
I don't want to throw in stats, considering LT's injuries, but LT is not bad at all and they have scored a total of 113 points (28.25 PPG).

Defense (here are my doubts):
-LT's defense has given up 92 points (23 PAPG)
-LT's full roster barely scraped by Westlake (seriously forget about last season, Westlake is 1-3 today).
-Barely beating Hendrickson, LT gave up 285 rushing yards off 32 carries (That's over 8.9 yards per carry!)
-Against Tivy, LT gave up 288 rushing yards on 45 carries (6.4 yards per carry) 273 of which, came from Tivy's QB on 37 carries (over 7.3 yards per carry)
-Mind you, LT has no "injury crutch" to excuse them defensively, so what excuse do you have for them... MOVING ON!


Let's go ahead take a look at Cedar Park, here we go:

Offense:
-Cedar Park has scored a total of 170 points (42.5 PPG)
-Cedar Park has arguably the BEST O-Line in 4A (I promise you they have a better O-Line than any of the above teams mentioned).
-Cedar Park rushed 372 yards off 51 carries (over 7.2 yards per carry) against Westwood.
-Cedar Park rushed 315 yards off 43 carries (over 7.3 yards per carry) against Ellison.
-Cedar Park rushed 285 yards off 33 carries (over 8.6 yards per carry) against Leander.
-Cedar Park rushed 403 yards off 49 carries (over 8.2 yards per carry) against Austin High.
-Cedar Park has punted a TOTAL of 4 times this season.

Cedar Park's main rusher: (would ya look at that!) Brian Hogan, their QB! No way! :rolleyes:
Off of 60 carries, Hogan has 486 yards (that's 8.1 yards per carry).

Defense:
-Cedar Park's defense has given up a TOTAL of 22 points (5.5 PAPG). That's less than what LT gave up to Hendrickson ALONE.
-Cedar Park SHUT OUT Austin High (who was averaging 29.75 PPG and over 459 yards of offense per game before they played Cedar Park).


Let's go apples to apples here, just so you can keep up. ;)

1. Cedar Park will run the ball (go figure!). Much like every other team that has dominated LT's defense by running the ball (coming from a yardage perspective, that is), Cedar Park will do the same. Better yet, they will do worse damage on the ground than ANY of those other teams.

2. Cedar Park will run with their QB. (please refer to line 4 of LT's defensive facts listed above) You will notice that Tivy completely dominated LT's defense (yet again, I am referring to yardage here) by running with their QB!

3. Cedar Park will not be stopped. Cedar Park has punted 4 times this season, most of which came after they took out their starters. LT's defense is allowing an AVERAGE of over 5.4 yards per carry. What exactly do you think is going to happen?

The irony in all this is that your screen name is "Defense Wins Championship".

That said, I'm done "joking" now. :cool:

[Defense wins championship]

Joke? Hmmm, well please allow me to "joke" around some more... this will be fun. :box:
Follow along now, and re-read if you get lost in the facts.


Offense:
I don't want to throw in stats, considering LT's injuries, but LT is not bad at all and they have scored a total of 113 points (28.25 PPG).

Defense (here are my doubts):
-LT's defense has given up 92 points (23 PAPG)
-LT's full roster barely scraped by Westlake (seriously forget about last season, Westlake is 1-3 today).
-Barely beating Hendrickson, LT gave up 285 rushing yards off 32 carries (That's over 8.9 yards per carry!)
-Against Tivy, LT gave up 288 rushing yards on 45 carries (6.4 yards per carry) 273 of which, came from Tivy's QB on 37 carries (over 7.3 yards per carry)
-Mind you, LT has no "injury crutch" to excuse them defensively, so what excuse do you have for them... MOVING ON!


Let's go ahead take a look at Cedar Park, here we go:

Offense:
-Cedar Park has scored a total of 170 points (42.5 PPG)
-Cedar Park has arguably the BEST O-Line in 4A (I promise you they have a better O-Line than any of the above teams mentioned).
-Cedar Park rushed 372 yards off 51 carries (over 7.2 yards per carry) against Westwood.
-Cedar Park rushed 315 yards off 43 carries (over 7.3 yards per carry) against Ellison.
-Cedar Park rushed 285 yards off 33 carries (over 8.6 yards per carry) against Leander.
-Cedar Park rushed 403 yards off 49 carries (over 8.2 yards per carry) against Austin High.
-Cedar Park has punted a TOTAL of 4 times this season.

Cedar Park's main rusher: (would ya look at that!) Brian Hogan, their QB! No way! :rolleyes:
Off of 60 carries, Hogan has 486 yards (that's 8.1 yards per carry).

Defense:
-Cedar Park's defense has given up a TOTAL of 22 points (5.5 PAPG). That's less than what LT gave up to Hendrickson ALONE.
-Cedar Park SHUT OUT Austin High (who was averaging 29.75 PPG and over 459 yards of offense per game before they played Cedar Park).


Let's go apples to apples here, just so you can keep up. ;)

1. Cedar Park will run the ball (go figure!). Much like every other team that has dominated LT's defense by running the ball (coming from a yardage perspective, that is), Cedar Park will do the same. Better yet, they will do worse damage on the ground than ANY of those other teams.

2. Cedar Park will run with their QB. (please refer to line 4 of LT's defensive facts listed above) You will notice that Tivy completely dominated LT's defense (yet again, I am referring to yardage here) by running with their QB!

3. Cedar Park will not be stopped. Cedar Park has punted 4 times this season, most of which came after they took out their starters. LT's defense is allowing an AVERAGE of over 5.4 yards per carry. What exactly do you think is going to happen?

The irony in all this is that your screen name is "Defense Wins Championship".

That said, I'm done "joking" now. :cool:

Boy, you got me...back into my shell I go!!!

CP has played teams that have struggled... all unranked, etc. At the time we played our opponents, they were ranked #4 in 5A-Westlake, #2 in 4A-Aledo, #3 in 4A-Tivy.

CP has no skilled offensive player that remotely compares to Jonathon Gray, Kenny Williams or Johnny Manziel. The O is one dimensional and can easily be shut down a handful of series-which is all LT needs.

If you look at the history of LT wins over the past 50 games (including this year), they give up yards between the 20s and minimize points once in the red zone (09-Steele, Alamo Heights, Longview, 10-Westlake, Aledo & Tivy). When I say minimize, I mean relevant to their average production.

Offensively, LT has had an issue executing the offense. Everything is coming together nicely and we now have 5 strong offensive options, very time we snap the ball.

CPs stats are impressive, you beat Stony Point last year and you got a great mascot! Just keep talking...your killing me!!!

[Defense wins championship]

Joke? Hmmm, well please allow me to "joke" around some more... this will be fun. :box:
Follow along now, and re-read if you get lost in the facts.


Offense:
I don't want to throw in stats, considering LT's injuries, but LT is not bad at all and they have scored a total of 113 points (28.25 PPG).

Defense (here are my doubts):
-LT's defense has given up 92 points (23 PAPG)
-LT's full roster barely scraped by Westlake (seriously forget about last season, Westlake is 1-3 today).
-Barely beating Hendrickson, LT gave up 285 rushing yards off 32 carries (That's over 8.9 yards per carry!)
-Against Tivy, LT gave up 288 rushing yards on 45 carries (6.4 yards per carry) 273 of which, came from Tivy's QB on 37 carries (over 7.3 yards per carry)
-Mind you, LT has no "injury crutch" to excuse them defensively, so what excuse do you have for them... MOVING ON!


Let's go ahead take a look at Cedar Park, here we go:

Offense:
-Cedar Park has scored a total of 170 points (42.5 PPG)
-Cedar Park has arguably the BEST O-Line in 4A (I promise you they have a better O-Line than any of the above teams mentioned).
-Cedar Park rushed 372 yards off 51 carries (over 7.2 yards per carry) against Westwood.
-Cedar Park rushed 315 yards off 43 carries (over 7.3 yards per carry) against Ellison.
-Cedar Park rushed 285 yards off 33 carries (over 8.6 yards per carry) against Leander.
-Cedar Park rushed 403 yards off 49 carries (over 8.2 yards per carry) against Austin High.
-Cedar Park has punted a TOTAL of 4 times this season.

Cedar Park's main rusher: (would ya look at that!) Brian Hogan, their QB! No way! :rolleyes:
Off of 60 carries, Hogan has 486 yards (that's 8.1 yards per carry).

Defense:
-Cedar Park's defense has given up a TOTAL of 22 points (5.5 PAPG). That's less than what LT gave up to Hendrickson ALONE.
-Cedar Park SHUT OUT Austin High (who was averaging 29.75 PPG and over 459 yards of offense per game before they played Cedar Park).


Let's go apples to apples here, just so you can keep up. ;)

1. Cedar Park will run the ball (go figure!). Much like every other team that has dominated LT's defense by running the ball (coming from a yardage perspective, that is), Cedar Park will do the same. Better yet, they will do worse damage on the ground than ANY of those other teams.

2. Cedar Park will run with their QB. (please refer to line 4 of LT's defensive facts listed above) You will notice that Tivy completely dominated LT's defense (yet again, I am referring to yardage here) by running with their QB!

3. Cedar Park will not be stopped. Cedar Park has punted 4 times this season, most of which came after they took out their starters. LT's defense is allowing an AVERAGE of over 5.4 yards per carry. What exactly do you think is going to happen?

The irony in all this is that your screen name is "Defense Wins Championship".

That said, I'm done "joking" now. :cool:

I forgot to ask...did you know all the stats off the top of your head? I tried to follow along...gave up. Is it a fact that stats win games? If so, share some recent years' success stories of CP.

[BrianFolsom]

Boy, you got me...back into my shell I go!!!

CP has played teams that have struggled... all unranked, etc. At the time we played our opponents, they were ranked #4 in 5A-Westlake, #2 in 4A-Aledo, #3 in 4A-Tivy.

CP has no skilled offensive player that remotely compares to Jonathon Gray, Kenny Williams or Johnny Manziel. The O is one dimensional and can easily be shut down a handful of series-which is all LT needs.

If you look at the history of LT wins over the past 50 games (including this year), they give up yards between the 20s and minimize points once in the red zone (09-Steele, Alamo Heights, Longview, 10-Westlake, Aledo & Tivy). When I say minimize, I mean relevant to their average production.

Offensively, LT has had an issue executing the offense. Everything is coming together nicely and we now have 5 strong offensive options, very time we snap the ball.

CPs stats are impressive, you beat Stony Point last year and you got a great mascot! Just keep talking...your killing me!!!

I forgot to ask...did you know all the stats off the top of your head? I tried to follow along...gave up. Is it a fact that stats win games? If so, share some recent years' success stories of CP.

This is truly humorous...

"CP has played teams that have struggled... all unranked, etc."
As opposed to Westlake's gleaming record, and did you really throw "yesterday" rankings into this? Everyone knows rankings don't matter until the end.

"Is it a fact that stats win games?"
No, much like irrelevant rankings! However, stats actually help you compare the match ups between opponents before the game, for instance:

Vista Ridge allowed 44 yards off 15 carries from Kenny Williams (and a GRAND TOTAL of 29 yards off 32 carries from Hendrickson all together), COMPARED TO Lake Travis who allowed 268 yards off 22 carries from Kenny Williams (and 285 yards off 32 carries from Hendrickson all together). Get the picture?

As for CP not having any "skilled offensive player that remotely compares to Jonathon Gray, Kenny Williams or Johnny Manziel" that sounds awfully like a rationalization to me... either that or it's your excuse for LT's defense. However, if you are still concerned, might I remind you that football is a TEAM game.

"The O is one dimensional and can easily be shut down..."
(This is my favorite one!) Please revert to said stats in previous post. Better yet, just tell me who has stopped them, who will be able to stop them, and how they will be stopped...

"If you look at the history of LT wins over the past 50 games"
Oh spare me! I'll look at their past 4 games, because that's all that matters this season.

[Semperfi]

Hey - Defense Wins Championships -- where are you coming from with your statement that the offense has had trouble executing plays. With 4 major injuries they are consistently putting points on the board. The defense has zero injuries. Can you explain your position? Against Tivy, we were down 19-3 and our offense scored the next 3 times it got the ball and continued to score to win the game for LT. You may be a defensive guy, but our offense deserves huge kudos for their ability to adjust to the loss of so many starters. I would hate to think about where we would be if the defense was missing 4 starters????:eek:

[Ltcav83]

This is truly humorous...

"CP has played teams that have struggled... all unranked, etc."
As opposed to Westlake's gleaming record, and did you really throw "yesterday" rankings into this? Everyone knows rankings don't matter until the end.

"Is it a fact that stats win games?"
No, much like irrelevant rankings! However, stats actually help you compare the match ups between opponents before the game, for instance:

Vista Ridge allowed 44 yards off 15 carries from Kenny Williams (and a GRAND TOTAL of 29 yards off 32 carries from Hendrickson all together), COMPARED TO Lake Travis who allowed 268 yards off 22 carries from Kenny Williams (and 285 yards off 32 carries from Hendrickson all together). Get the picture?

As for CP not having any "skilled offensive player that remotely compares to Jonathon Gray, Kenny Williams or Johnny Manziel" that sounds awfully like a rationalization to me... either that or it's your excuse for LT's defense. However, if you are still concerned, might I remind you that football is a TEAM game.

"The O is one dimensional and can easily be shut down..."
(This is my favorite one!) Please revert to said stats in previous post. Better yet, just tell me who has stopped them, who will be able to stop them, and how they will be stopped...

"If you look at the history of LT wins over the past 50 games"
Oh spare me! I'll look at their past 4 games, because that's all that matters this season.

Are you sure that you want to get all of this started? Didn't this board have some of these same discussions last year? One question for you. Who do you think has played the tougher schedule this year to this point? LT or CP

[Defense wins championship]

This is truly humorous...


As for CP not having any "skilled offensive player that remotely compares to Jonathon Gray, Kenny Williams or Johnny Manziel" that sounds awfully like a rationalization to me... either that or it's your excuse for LT's defense. However, if you are still concerned, might I remind you that football is a TEAM game.

"If you look at the history of LT wins over the past 50 games"
Oh spare me! I'll look at their past 4 games, because that's all that matters this season.

No rationalizing or excuses, just letting you know that the LT D will be quaking in its boots when they face Brian Hogan! Brian will strike the fear of God in all the players, no doubt!!! To think that they will have to prepare for Brian will keep them up all night. You guys used that "dominating O line" crap last year and look what the score was.

You're right, the last 4 games you have played no one. Btw, I would take Westlake if they played CP tomorrow. Coaching will matter as the season progresses.

[twolf5]

No we don't want to start this now come on cp fans. We havnt proven squat yet. While we have reason to be confident that's all we have at the moment. This team has to keep working and then deliver. Then well know.

It will be interesting to see how all of this shakes out in the end. I've scratched my head in our first 4 games wondering if were that good or these teams at that bad. It's been a total destruction in those games much worse than the scores show. We started subbing in the third quarter of every game and played three qb A LOT in every game. So maybe those teams suck and we are not as good. Or maybe they are pretty good and we are freaking awesome. Who knows.

Lt on the other hand. Westlake is not much better IMO than the 4 5a teams we've played. Better yes, but not much. I saw your game. Aledo? They only beat stephenville 20-3. 3A brownwood crushed stephenville much worse than that. Is aledo really that good? I'm not saying I know, it's just interesting. Tivy is a total one man show. If we hold manziel to th point total LT did I'll be ecstatic!! Because our offense will score 50+ on them I am 100% confident of that.

The only common opponent in this mix seems to be Hendrickson who I think vista beat worse than LT.

My only point us I honestly thinks it's ALL up in the air. I'm not sure who all these teams are yet.

[Defense wins championship]

Hey - Defense Wins Championships -- where are you coming from with your statement that the offense has had trouble executing plays. With 4 major injuries they are consistently putting points on the board. The defense has zero injuries. Can you explain your position? Against Tivy, we were down 19-3 and our offense scored the next 3 times it got the ball and continued to score to win the game for LT. You may be a defensive guy, but our offense deserves huge kudos for their ability to adjust to the loss of so many starters. I would hate to think about where we would be if the defense was missing 4 starters????:eek:

The offense wasn't as crisp as it was last year from Weslake through the end of the 1st quarter of the Tivy game. I have seen them play better as a collective unit at times but not consistently.

Beginning on the 2nd quarter of the Tivy game, I saw the LT O dominate...collectively like it has in the past. 5 strong options, every snap, passing or running. The O line completely dominated. I believe that was the turning point on the road to the playoffs.

I don't buy into excuses with injuries, etc. Every team has them and that's when you dig deep...LT did beginning in that 2nd quarter and I believe it could make a run at the championship with those players. The bonus is if/when the others are healthy!!!

[Ltcav83]

No we don't want to start this now come on cp fans. We havnt proven squat yet. While we have reason to be confident that's all we have at the moment. This team has to keep working and then deliver. Then well know.

It will be interesting to see how all of this shakes out in the end. I've scratched my head in our first 4 games wondering if were that good or these teams at that bad. It's been a total destruction in those games much worse than the scores show. We started subbing in the third quarter of every game and played three qb A LOT in every game. So maybe those teams suck and we are not as good. Or maybe they are pretty good and we are freaking awesome. Who knows.

Lt on the other hand. Westlake is not much better IMO than the 4 5a teams we've played. Better yes, but not much. I saw your game. Aledo? They only beat stephenville 20-3. 3A brownwood crushed stephenville much worse than that. Is aledo really that good? I'm not saying I know, it's just interesting. Tivy is a total one man show. If we hold manziel to th point total LT did I'll be ecstatic!! Because our offense will score 50+ on them I am 100% confident of that.

The only common opponent in this mix seems to be Hendrickson who I think vista beat worse than LT.

My only point us I honestly thinks it's ALL up in the air. I'm not sure who all these teams are yet.

You are a good poster and have been level headed the entire time that I have been on this board. Here is what I think. Westlake put so much into the game with LT that it took them a couple of weeks to mentally get back into sync. They put up 59 points last week on Pville and I ( and many others ) thought that they might lose that game. Aledo was a very good team, but I think that I know what happens if LT plays them with a healthy team.

Kerrville Tivy was a freak show that was stunning to watch. That would be an intriguing game between CP and KT. KT would not be able to stop CP's offense because CP is way to big. I think that Manziel would give CP's defense fits because they are too big! It would be a crazy game.

I do think that CP has played a much easier schedule than LT and it may hurt them on November 4th. I do think that CP has been very, very impressive this year and will be very tough for LT to beat. It will be a great matchup of styles. I told you that last years game was just a perfect storm of LT playing lights out of CP getting shell shocked. I still believe that.

I think that LT matches up pretty good with CP ( if LT is healthy ) and LT has played in countless more big games than CP. That said, I think that CP has a chance to win state with this team. They are a matchup nightmare for virtually every team and it will be fun to see the buildup to November 4th.

Your boy Brian Folsom is getting a bit too excited too early. When LT gets healthy and gets some of their new weapons they are developing in place, they will be a load. Good luck to CP until then, they will run thru every game with ease.

[clemensbuff]

Didn't Steele try rushing two guys???

I do not remembering them only rushing two but they tried with three and didn't even smell him that way! The only way they got to him is with a DB blitz.

[Ex LT player]

"If you look at the history of LT wins over the past 50 games"
Oh spare me! I'll look at their past 4 games, because that's all that matters this season.

not true. there are CP players that remember last year and regardless of the reason for the shellacking, if LT comes out on fire to open the game they'll remember.

And they had injuries in 3 of the 4 games this year so good luck getting an accurate assessment. Everyone tries to make out like LT (or at least the LT posters) are using injuries as an excuse, but if Peyton Manning gets hurt and the Colts get beat, all the media outlets are going to point out how the game would have been different if Manning had played.

Brewer and Floyd take our offense to a whole different level. Maybe their injuries will help us against CP bc there won't be any film of them. I guess we'll see.

Week 10 is a long way off and until your team beats a whole LT team you should probably go easy on the stats, like how LT has beat CP the last two meetings ;)

[Defense wins championship]

So maybe those teams suck and we are not as good. Or maybe they are pretty good and we are freaking awesome.

My guess is it's a combination. CP has a good team playing subpar competition. Thankfully, CP is showing sportsmanship by turning back the throttle and giving some younger guys some reps. I think 50 is enough and not to humiliate the opponent.

I hope CP stays healthy and look forward to a rematch at LT. You can thank Aledo for the additional 1,200 seats on the visitor side.

[BrianFolsom]

Are you sure that you want to get all of this started? Didn't this board have some of these same discussions last year? One question for you. Who do you think has played the tougher schedule this year to this point? LT or CP

You are a good poster and have been level headed the entire time that I have been on this board. Here is what I think. Westlake put so much into the game with LT that it took them a couple of weeks to mentally get back into sync. They put up 59 points last week on Pville and I ( and many others ) thought that they might lose that game. Aledo was a very good team, but I think that I know what happens if LT plays them with a healthy team.

Kerrville Tivy was a freak show that was stunning to watch. That would be an intriguing game between CP and KT. KT would not be able to stop CP's offense because CP is way to big. I think that Manziel would give CP's defense fits because they are too big! It would be a crazy game.

I do think that CP has played a much easier schedule than LT and it may hurt them on November 4th. I do think that CP has been very, very impressive this year and will be very tough for LT to beat. It will be a great matchup of styles. I told you that last years game was just a perfect storm of LT playing lights out of CP getting shell shocked. I still believe that.

I think that LT matches up pretty good with CP ( if LT is healthy ) and LT has played in countless more big games than CP. That said, I think that CP has a chance to win state with this team. They are a matchup nightmare for virtually every team and it will be fun to see the buildup to November 4th.

Your boy Brian Folsom is getting a bit too excited too early. When LT gets healthy and gets some of their new weapons they are developing in place, they will be a load. Good luck to CP until then, they will run thru every game with ease.

"Who do you think has played the tougher schedule this year to this point? LT or CP"
Not even close, LT has definitely played the harder schedule.

"Your boy Brian Folsom is getting a bit too excited too early"
It's not even like that I just didn't appreciate the "what a joke!" comment by Defense Wins Championship, so I overreacted.
I'm a little trigger happy:p... I'll work on it, sincerely... but I'm in no way saying that Cedar Park would destroy LT come November.

I apologize, Defense, and for what it's worth, November 5th will be completely different than today so I'm expecting a very close game against LT... HOPEFULLY LT WILL BE ALL HEALED UP BY THEN!

[mywolfpack]

No we don't want to start this now come on cp fans. We havnt proven squat yet. While we have reason to be confident that's all we have at the moment. This team has to keep working and then deliver. Then well know.

It will be interesting to see how all of this shakes out in the end. I've scratched my head in our first 4 games wondering if were that good or these teams at that bad. It's been a total destruction in those games much worse than the scores show. We started subbing in the third quarter of every game and played three qb A LOT in every game. So maybe those teams suck and we are not as good. Or maybe they are pretty good and we are freaking awesome. Who knows.

Lt on the other hand. Westlake is not much better IMO than the 4 5a teams we've played. Better yes, but not much. I saw your game. Aledo? They only beat stephenville 20-3. 3A brownwood crushed stephenville much worse than that. Is aledo really that good? I'm not saying I know, it's just interesting. Tivy is a total one man show. If we hold manziel to th point total LT did I'll be ecstatic!! Because our offense will score 50+ on them I am 100% confident of that.

The only common opponent in this mix seems to be Hendrickson who I think vista beat worse than LT.

My only point us I honestly thinks it's ALL up in the air. I'm not sure who all these teams are yet.

100% agree with you--no need to start this discussion now.

There is a bunch to be excited about with this team and I think there is more to this team than a lot of people think. I've said before--leadership, chemistry, and depth. As your example of the QB situation, these guys all bring something different to the table and are all getting 1H/quality experience. Same goes for a lot of the other positions.

[clemensbuff]

I have not seen either CP or LT play this year but I think if they played it today, it would be a very, very close game and I wouldn't want to pick the winner! That said, 6 weeks is a long time for both teams as far as what kind of progress is made, or let's hope this isn't the case, going the other direction! Injuries can be huge as LT has already witnessed this year so let's all hope that both teams get, and stay healthy so that each one has everybody come game time in this one.

I think CP is playing at a different level then in years past and have a very legit team and I'm very impressed with their team. I am also very impressed, yet not surprised in the way LT has, for lack of a better word, 'adapted' to the injuries they have had. To be able to overcome it and beat a team as good as Tivy and lose by only 4 to Aledo is a testament to just how good their program is!!!

LT vs CP in week 10 should be a great one and that is what Texas HSFB is all about!!!

[Ltcav83]

"Who do you think has played the tougher schedule this year to this point? LT or CP"
Not even close, LT has definitely played the harder schedule.

"Your boy Brian Folsom is getting a bit too excited too early"
It's not even like that I just didn't appreciate the "what a joke!" comment by Defense Wins Championship, so I overreacted.
I'm a little trigger happy:p... I'll work on it, sincerely... but I'm in no way saying that Cedar Park would destroy LT come November.

I apologize, Defense, and for what it's worth, November 5th will be completely different than today so I'm expecting a very close game against LT... HOPEFULLY LT WILL BE ALL HEALED UP BY THEN!

No worries. Just enjoy the next 7 weeks leading up to the last game. I really do not believe that CP or LT will be truly tested between now and then. 11/4 will be for all of the marbles and the right to avoid Tivy in the 2nd round.

[Defense wins championship]

[QUOTE=BrianFolsom;1611088] It's not even like that I just didn't appreciate the "what a joke!" comment by Defense Wins Championship, so I overreacted.QUOTE]

No problem pal. When you said CP was "Absolutely" better than LT, I thought you needed a reality check. The game should be hyped because of the high level of play it will be. If the game were played today, LT would be ready. Injuries always matter and it would be amazing if there were none come game time. My point is, there is no need to prospect whether the game will be competive or not based on injuries. There will be no excuses come game time and will depend on the system, coaches, preparation, depth, knowledge and experience.

I like LTs chances.

[SilverHairedDad]

You guys keep beating each other up (not literally, we don't like injuries but it is reality), and as you do SV will get better each week and after the HYPE and buildup, either of you will need to get ready for that second week, somebody will get us. We are used to the HYPE and the build up 26-5a will do that to you week in and week out.

GO RANGERS!!!

[Ltcav83]

You guys keep beating each other up (not literally, we don't like injuries but it is reality), and as you do SV will get better each week and after the HYPE and buildup, either of you will need to get ready for that second week, somebody will get us. We are used to the HYPE and the build up 26-5a will do that to you week in and week out.

GO RANGERS!!!

Not sure that LT needs any getting used to the HYPE. They are the three time defending state champions and with that comes plenty of HYPE. These guys are experienced in big games and have played many, many playoffs games. I think that it is the other way around. LT will be tested and ready and SV better be prepared for the HYPE of LT coming to town.

[SV61]

Not sure that LT needs any getting used to the HYPE. They are the three time defending state champions and with that comes plenty of HYPE. These guys are experienced in big games and have played many, many playoffs games. I think that it is the other way around. LT will be tested and ready and SV better be prepared for the HYPE of LT coming to town.

LT will feel the hype of this game (if it happens) just like SV will feel the hype. Both programs have been there before. Some of the players haven't been there before, but the programs have been there before.

Lots of Football before guys on the team(s) are even THINKING about this.

[Ltcav83]

LT will feel the hype of this game (if it happens) just like SV will feel the hype. Both programs have been there before. Some of the players haven't been there before, but the programs have been there before.

Lots of Football before guys on the team(s) are even THINKING about this.

I was just responding the silverhaireddad's post about needing to get ready for the HYPE of the second week of the playoffs, playing SV and how playing in 26-5A gets you prepared week in and week out. I simply stated that LT does not need to get used to the HYPE. It has been there for the last three years. The kids playing in this program have never known anything but winning state each of the last three years.

Over 20 players on this team have played in at least one championship game not to mention many, many other playoffs games on the road to the championship. I was just pointing out to silverhaireddad that LT is probably more prepared for the HYPE than any football team in the state.

You are right, though. Still lots of football to be played, but everyone knows the showdowns that are coming.

[SV61]

I was just responding the silverhaireddad's post about needing to get ready for the HYPE of the second week of the playoffs, playing SV and how playing in 26-5A gets you prepared week in and week out. I simply stated that LT does not need to get used to the HYPE. It has been there for the last three years. The kids playing in this program have never known anything but winning state each of the last three years.

Over 20 players on this team have played in at least one championship game not to mention many, many other playoffs games on the road to the championship. I was just pointing out to silverhaireddad that LT is probably more prepared for the HYPE than any football team in the state.

You are right, though. Still lots of football to be played, but everyone knows the showdowns that are coming.

I, like you, look forward to an opportunity for SV to match up with Lake Travis. I think that could be a very, VERY, good contest, injuries not withstanding. Tivy would also present a great challenge.

However, this week, our opponent wears Red and White. IF SV doesn't stay the course this week, these "showdowns everyone knows are coming" won't be coming.

:cool: