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stevefoxsc
07-06-2005, 12:06 AM
who would you say would have the best chance to bring a state title if you had to pick a team wrather its your team or not.

13-5a my guess is A&MC wana waco but there not consitence

Dds115
07-06-2005, 12:08 AM
District 5 I will go with Southlake.

dragons08
07-06-2005, 12:09 AM
District 5 I will go with Southlake.
i will have to agree with you

GTown02
07-06-2005, 12:34 AM
11-5A is tough... Either Garland or South Garland would be my picks... both are good teams and both could contend.

pack4life
07-06-2005, 12:48 AM
14-5A, im biased... so LUFKIN! Daunting defense and scary airiel attack, not to mention an excellent kicker!

dragons08
07-06-2005, 12:49 AM
so far everyboys is biased, but legit

Rerun
07-06-2005, 12:52 AM
25-5A - Schertz Clemens

Texas Hammer
07-06-2005, 02:14 AM
I'm not answering because 26-5A has unfinished business. There's also 2 correct answers! :D

Texas Hammer
07-06-2005, 02:20 AM
In all seriousness, I can't really answer the question. 26-5A has the #3 and #9 teams in the poll on this board and they project out as the 3rd best D1 team and the 2nd best D2 team. #1 plays in D1 and #2 plays in D2, so who from 26-5A has a better chance to win?

ktrain
07-06-2005, 07:57 AM
19-5A Katy, again!

SWTAlumni
07-06-2005, 09:23 AM
As much as I hate to say it, LONGVIEW, but their usually 5A DIV II and that means that the road must go through LUFKIN or S.L.C. and that ain't happing this year!

c-lisle
07-06-2005, 10:04 AM
As much as I hate to say it, LONGVIEW, but their usually 5A DIV II and that means that the road must go through LUFKIN or S.L.C. and that ain't happing this year!

Our chances are much better this year than last. I think we go to the Semis at least. We want to be sure and clilnch District and avoid Garland and South Garland, they would both be tough first round match ups.

LoboFan07
07-06-2005, 12:24 PM
Actually I rather play South Garland. Just because we win District doesnt mean South Garland will be the higher seed. North could pull off an upset or something LOL. I want some revenge from 2003.

StormingCowboy
07-06-2005, 01:00 PM
As much as I hate to say it, LONGVIEW, but their usually 5A DIV II and that means that the road must go through LUFKIN or S.L.C. and that ain't happing this year!

I really think that this will be Longview's year!!

c-lisle
07-06-2005, 01:05 PM
I really think that this will be Longview's year!!


Your going to ginx us.

Big Daddy Cool
07-06-2005, 01:23 PM
235A's only team capable of brining home a state title is the 03' State Champion North Shore. If Dobie can continue to improve as they have the past two season then they might reach that level. Other than that I don't see any of the others ever reaching that level.

NewSherriffInTown
07-06-2005, 01:30 PM
15-5a


Leander...I don't know if they can actually take a state title home.

They certainly have alot of individual talent this year, especially if McKinley starts at QB and is a top leader like Dunn is. If Dunn had McKinley's athletic ability and size...I'd definitely shoot Leander as a legit deep playoff contender.

RPM
07-06-2005, 04:28 PM
I really cant say either because......well I just really cant say LOL! :D

grayowl60
07-06-2005, 05:24 PM
Actually I rather play South Garland. Just because we win District doesnt mean South Garland will be the higher seed. North could pull off an upset or something LOL. I want some revenge from 2003.
You guys in East Texas keep forgeting the Mesquite schools. Sure, they have been down for a few years because opening Horn drained some talent. But Mesquite came on strong at the end of last year. And they have a state title within the last three years. Does Longview? Can you say Hanby? :)

Mad Hatter
07-06-2005, 10:28 PM
yeah its a toos up for either judson of SV i really dont know...we will see

Red Raiders
07-07-2005, 12:32 AM
Well don't you see 12-5A and 26-5A? They both would have better chance winning it because Judson and Tyler Lee for Division 1 and Longview and Smithson Valley for Division 2.

LeanderLions3033
07-07-2005, 12:32 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say from 15-5a that RR McNeil has the best shot considering who they play on the road there. The 2nd place team form our district will more than likely have to play Lufkin in the 2nd round and our first place team would probably have to play Copperas Cove (although i would like another shot at them considering we beat them in 02), then their is Dallas Carter/Misquite schools in the 3rd round for our district. Then you can't leave out the fact that Longview will be d-2, SLC will be d-2, SV will be d-2. Its just all together a thougher road to the championship for us than Austin Bowie in the first round, The Woodlands in the 2nd round, then tyler lee, then hey what do you know, im in the semis.

Mad Hatter
07-07-2005, 03:54 AM
Well don't you see 12-5A and 26-5A? They both would have better chance winning it because Judson and Tyler Lee for Division 1 and Longview and Smithson Valley for Division 2.

i would love to see Tyler and Judson havea go for a title...should have been last year but heh we lost : :(

Eagle81
07-07-2005, 10:11 AM
3-5A would have to be Abilene High. I'll say Midland Lee may have a chance if they go Division I.

ilovefootball
07-07-2005, 10:30 AM
3-5A would have to be Abilene High. I'll say Midland Lee may have a chance if they go Division I.

Abilene won't make it passed SLC again. Same story as last year

raidercheerdad
07-07-2005, 10:42 AM
Abilene won't make it passed SLC again. Same story as last year
I think that needs to play out -- Abilene's QB has shown what he can do on the field in a game situation and McElroy has had some good camps! I'm not saying he can't get the job done, but he has to do it in the heat of the battle. I hope we get a rematch of one of the best playoff games of last season!

Red Raiders
07-07-2005, 12:05 PM
3-5A would have to be Abilene High. I'll say Midland Lee may have a chance if they go Division I.

I agree with you.

Eagle81
07-07-2005, 03:15 PM
Abilene won't make it passed SLC again. Same story as last year

AHS has to get over that hurdle. The scary thing about a rematch is AHS' defense most likely will not be as good as it was last year and SLC put up 35. From what I've seen of SLC they just keep plugging QB's and blowing people out. I think the main difference for SLC this year at the 5A level, is this will be the first year without superman Luna. The last couple of years they've replaced the QB and been just fine. We should see how much Luna meant to that team. Me personally, I don't think he got enough credit, just as I don't think people gave SLC's defense that much credit. I hope there is a rematch but AHS has a pretty competitive district they have get thru before they start talking playoffs.

SV05champs
07-07-2005, 08:05 PM
SV. 100% if the QB position works out.

SV05champs
07-07-2005, 08:09 PM
I think that needs to play out -- Abilene's QB has shown what he can do on the field in a game situation and McElroy has had some good camps! I'm not saying he can't get the job done, but he has to do it in the heat of the battle. I hope we get a rematch of one of the best playoff games of last season!


I agree with you on this one. It is all going to depend on McElroy. Anyone can attend camps. Its what is done on the field that matters.. I think this is going to be a great game like last year if they meet up again. Same as Lufkin and SV. I hope it all works out like last year myself, only flip that last game.

dragonsdaddy
07-07-2005, 08:14 PM
it will depend more on who replaces luna and how well he does it, imo.

Purple Haze
07-07-2005, 09:05 PM
Abilene won't make it passed SLC again. Same story as last year

Must be nice to have the special gift of prophecy. Apparently there is no need to even make the playoffs for Abilene since the outcome is pre-determined by the all knowing ilovefootball. :D Wow what a deal. :confused:And by the way the word is past not passed. :D :D :D

Warbird
07-07-2005, 09:12 PM
AHS has to get over that hurdle. The scary thing about a rematch is AHS' defense most likely will not be as good as it was last year and SLC put up 35. From what I've seen of SLC they just keep plugging QB's and blowing people out. I think the main difference for SLC this year at the 5A level, is this will be the first year without superman Luna. The last couple of years they've replaced the QB and been just fine. We should see how much Luna meant to that team. Me personally, I don't think he got enough credit, just as I don't think people gave SLC's defense that much credit. I hope there is a rematch but AHS has a pretty competitive district they have get thru before they start talking playoffs.


Possibly. But never say never, unless it happens to be, "SLC will never win 3 state championships in a row."

Just razzin' you Drag'n fans.

I think that, unless SLC's new RB is really as good as Luna, McElroy may be in trouble with the Eagle's D-line. Why? Two words: Marcus Brooks. Kid's a monster at 6'2"-ish. He can squat 635 lbs. (No, I am NOT making this up).

dragonsdaddy
07-07-2005, 09:15 PM
was he a difference maker last year? i was more up on the offense, but i don't remember him tearing it up.

ilovefootball
07-07-2005, 09:40 PM
Must be nice to have the special gift of prophecy. Apparently there is no need to even make the playoffs for Abilene since the outcome is pre-determined by the all knowing ilovefootball. :D Wow what a deal. :confused:And by the way the word is past not passed. :D :D :D

Thank you for correcting my grammar. Abilene will not beat SLC because they do not have an rb to replace Lewis. Potts is a good passer but he needs a running game to be effective. He is slow and cannot create his own offense. He's like a young Drew Bledsoe. Abilene lost a lot of defensive talent as well, and you have to have a superb defense to even compete against SLC. 3-5A is a very overrated district. If Abilene had to compete with the H-town or Dallas boys, they wouldn't even make the playoffs. So good luck to Abilene. Maybe I am wrong, but let's be honest that is highly unlikely.

drgnbkr
07-07-2005, 09:49 PM
Thank you for correcting my grammar. Abilene will not beat SLC because they do not have an rb to replace Lewis. Potts is a good passer but he needs a running game to be effective. He is slow and cannot create his own offense. He's like a young Drew Bledsoe. Abilene lost a lot of defensive talent as well, and you have to have a superb defense to even compete against SLC. 3-5A is a very overrated district. If Abilene had to compete with the H-town or Dallas boys, they wouldn't even make the playoffs. So good luck to Abilene. Maybe I am wrong, but let's be honest that is highly unlikely.

Wow, thats pretty harsh on our friends from Abilene...they should be just fine this year, if a little different....

Purple Haze
07-07-2005, 10:36 PM
Abilene will not beat SLC because they do not have an rb to replace Lewis (remember the name Casey Bell). Potts is a good passer but he needs a running game to be effective. He is slow and cannot create his own offense. He's like a young Drew Bledsoe. Abilene lost a lot of defensive talent as well(true) , and you have to have a superb defense to even compete against SLC(true) . 3-5A is a very overrated district (one of the stupidest statements ever made on this site). If Abilene had to compete with the H-town or Dallas boys, they wouldn't even make the playoffs (LMAO). So good luck to Abilene. Maybe I am wrong, but let's be honest that is highly unlikely.

Big talk from a little person. My signature below applies to posters like yourself and says it all my friend. :D :D :D

Mad Hatter
07-08-2005, 02:15 AM
Hmm who knows what will happen both teams could get devestated with injuries or the flu or something.... lets just wait and make it thru the regualr season b4 we start predicitng playoff wins....

GoOwls
07-08-2005, 02:28 AM
I think it's gonna be kinda hard for us to answer in an unbiased way because from my observations, it seems that almost every poster on here, or at least the great majority, are fans of a winning program. By being honest, we will appear biased.

Purple Haze
07-08-2005, 05:41 AM
Hmm who knows what will happen both teams could get devestated with injuries or the flu or something.... lets just wait and make it thru the regualr season b4 we start predicitng playoff wins....

Ahh.. the voice of reason. :cool:

Mr. Buddy Garrity
07-08-2005, 09:25 AM
22-5A---Westfield by a landslide.

Eagle81
07-08-2005, 10:15 AM
Hmm who knows what will happen both teams could get devestated with injuries or the flu or something.... lets just wait and make it thru the regualr season b4 we start predicitng playoff wins....

This sounds like a man who may be on to something.

Eagle81
07-08-2005, 10:20 AM
Thank you for correcting my grammar. Abilene will not beat SLC because they do not have an rb to replace Lewis. Potts is a good passer but he needs a running game to be effective. He is slow and cannot create his own offense. He's like a young Drew Bledsoe. Abilene lost a lot of defensive talent as well, and you have to have a superb defense to even compete against SLC. 3-5A is a very overrated district. If Abilene had to compete with the H-town or Dallas boys, they wouldn't even make the playoffs. So good luck to Abilene. Maybe I am wrong, but let's be honest that is highly unlikely.

I am obviously very biased in my opinion here but I can't think of too many districts in either of those cities my boys from Abilene couldn't win. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say that the last place team from last year (Odessa Permian) could beat at least half the teams in either of those cities. 3-5A overrated??? Come on now, jealousy will get you nowhere in life.

dragonsdaddy
07-08-2005, 10:33 AM
i'm assuming ilfb didn't mean the hisd or disd districts, but was including the burbs too. mojo would have been a playoff team in the city districts for sure.

dentonRYAN
07-08-2005, 11:21 AM
it will depend more on who replaces luna and how well he does it, imo.

i disagree, McElroy can make or break the Dragons season....there will be a lot of pressure on him.....luna's replacement will be also important for the system but its all about McElroy....

back to the point of this topic....i think SLC will have the best chance to get to state....thats a no brainer..... but i just hope it doesnt happen....lol

dragonsdaddy
07-08-2005, 12:21 PM
there is no doubt that mc will play a huge part in any success slc has this fall, but he is a much surer bet to uphold the tradition than whoever replaces luna. we are worrying about a kid who has colleges all over the country drooling, while an equally important cog is going to be filled by a sr with no experience and less noteriety, or a heralded but completely unproven soph. i am much more worried about the rb spot personally.

RidgePride
07-08-2005, 12:29 PM
there is no doubt that mc will play a huge part in any success slc has this fall, but he is a much surer bet to uphold the tradition than whoever replaces luna. we are worrying about a kid who has colleges all over the country drooling, while an equally important cog is going to be filled by a sr with no experience and less noteriety, or a heralded but completely unproven soph. i am much more worried about the rb spot personally.


I think you should be more concerned about quarterback. The Quarterback will make or break the team. He may be a very good Prototype QB but he is inexperienced. This inexperience may show when they get to the playoffs.

The Running backs will be fine. Newton is the real deal.

You should also be more concerned about offense and defensive line.
People forget that SLC had a dominant O line last year, and a very solid penatrating defensive line.

dragonsdaddy
07-08-2005, 12:54 PM
tre is a kid who has the potential to be very, very good. he will have to develop into a blocker and a reciever for this offense to be successful. his running style will probably have to adjust to the varsity style or he may not survive the punishment. of course a few licks may go a long way towards convincing him of the need to get behind his pads while entering the los. mc is very, very good and doesn't need any development, just reps. can he fail to be successful this year? there is a better than zero chance of it, but if i was a betting man, i wouldn't risk anything on that possibility. college recruiters aren't the smartest people in the world, but they also can't all be completely wrong either. as good as chase was, without luna's support, he would have been just another athlete on a pretty successful playoff team. mc might very well follow the same path without some serious help at rb.

RidgePride
07-08-2005, 01:04 PM
tre is a kid who has the potential to be very, very good. he will have to develop into a blocker and a reciever for this offense to be successful. his running style will probably have to adjust to the varsity style or he may not survive the punishment. of course a few licks may go a long way towards convincing him of the need to get behind his pads while entering the los. mc is very, very good and doesn't need any development, just reps. can he fail to be successful this year? there is a better than zero chance of it, but if i was a betting man, i wouldn't risk anything on that possibility. college recruiters aren't the smartest people in the world, but they also can't all be completely wrong either. as good as chase was, without luna's support, he would have been just another athlete on a pretty successful playoff team. mc might very well follow the same path without some serious help at rb.

It's not that the colleges are wrong he may be a better quarterback than Daniel on paper.

But the intangibles - leadership qualities and composure - have yet to be proven. When he is in a big time game, who knows if he will crack under pressure. His inexperience may allow that. Like when Daniel threw that interception against Katy at the end of the game.

dragonsdaddy
07-08-2005, 01:07 PM
i agree completely, but my concerns are more about a lack of production at rb than at qb.

drgnbkr
07-08-2005, 03:31 PM
Absolutely DD...the big question this year is not McElroy, but Running Back...