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dada
07-13-2010, 01:16 PM
1.Brenham
2.Angleton
3. Friendswood
4. Stratford
5. Crosby
6.Montgomery
7.Dawson
8. PNG
9. Manvel
10.Willis

shslb15
07-13-2010, 01:23 PM
Hmmm SHS #4, Thats cool but I donno bout that one....

ThEgReAtOnE
07-13-2010, 02:32 PM
1.Brenham
2.Angleton
3. Friendswood
4. Stratford
5. Crosby
6.Montgomery
7.Dawson
8. PNG
9. Manvel
10.Willis

Don't have a problem with it, but I do think La Marque and Humble will likely be in the list, by end of the season. LM gave North Shore all they could handle, last year... and Humble will be loaded with skill.

grasshopper
07-13-2010, 07:27 PM
Hmmm SHS #4, Thats cool but I donno bout that one....

yea i figured montgomery would be higher then shs

ktCarl
07-13-2010, 09:06 PM
Don't have a problem with it, but I do think La Marque and Humble will likely be in the list, by end of the season. LM gave North Shore all they could handle, last year... and Humble will be loaded with skill.



Where's 78Spartan. His team is #4.

Raiders09
07-13-2010, 11:59 PM
17-4A has 3 of the Top 10 GHA 4A schools, so every game between Brenham, Montgomery, and Stratford will be good and have a lot on the line. Can't wait for Stratford and Brenham at Tully, last game of the season and most likely for the district title and I won't have to drive all the way out to the country for this great match up right before the playoffs.

shslb15
07-14-2010, 08:56 AM
Where's 78Spartan. His team is #4.

I'd say morning the drop.. ;)

wolfpack4life
07-14-2010, 11:48 AM
1.Brenham
2.Angleton
3. Friendswood
4. Stratford
5. Crosby
6.Montgomery
7.Dawson
8. PNG
9. Manvel
10.Willis
I just love how people are leaving Humble out of the radar.

KT2000
07-14-2010, 01:57 PM
I just love how people are leaving Humble out of the radar.

I think Humble could benefit from playing in 4A like Longview did. HUM398 believes Humble will be able to rebuild properly, and I agree with him on that. Atascocita took a huge chunk out of Humble as we knew it in the 90s and early 00s.

HUM398
07-14-2010, 04:38 PM
I think Humble could benefit from playing in 4A like Longview did. HUM398 believes Humble will be able to rebuild properly, and I agree with him on that. Atascocita took a huge chunk out of Humble as we knew it in the 90s and early 00s.

correct. I think this is a prime oppurtunity to retool and hit the ground running. Humble will benifit from being 4a by playing on a fairly more balanced playing field...We went from being one of the smallest programs (Enrollement) to one of the largest, and that helps. We were considered shallow deph wise at 4a, and deep in 4a. Like most schools that go through cycles, a couple of down years can destroy you....if you get the oppurtunity to resurge as dominant...then take it.

Humble was hit really hard by the loss of Atascocita, harder then i thought would occur....but it dramatically affected the identity of the team, and i think the coaches didn't really know how to respond to the loss of quality depth. their was a point where Humble 2nd and 3rd string guys were probably starters on our opponents team....and damn good ones. Hell Jackie Battle is an NFL player now, and he only started 1 year on Varsity....

Humble still has the upper tier talent, but it is far more diluted then it used to be. can you imagine a team where Humble and Atascocita teams of 2009 were combined?

It is a bit irratating that most of the publications have underrated us, but in years that they have done that....We have been pretty good.

Humble returns a ton of talent, especially at the skill spots....and our Defensive Line is pretty ridculous. We are looking at teams (next three years) that are going to produce some top notch Divison 1 prospects, and possibly 2-5 NFL players. id say this is one of the most talented two classes ('11/'12) we've had come through since the 2002-2003 classes when we were rated no.1 in the country...They may be a little better then those two classes even. only time will tell.

HUM398
07-14-2010, 04:41 PM
I just love how people are leaving Humble out of the radar.

Your boy(Washington) has a good shot at the getting the starting job (has to beat out Kyle Tucker, and Marcus Ray)... which i see happening.

However ive heard he is throwing the ball TOO MUCH. maybe you can tell him to take a break and rest until 2-a-days....id like to have a QB in the fall. ;)

Allstarkaw
07-18-2010, 12:20 AM
Haha' ,..

78 Spartan
07-18-2010, 05:08 PM
I have no basis for commenting until I see the kids play. But I know Stratford plays Memorial and Friendswood in the nondistrict schedule, and Montgomery and Brenham in district, so it's a tougher schedule than we've had in some time even in 5A. 7-3 could be a hell of a great record, and 6-4 will still be a playoff team.

Offensively, my guess is we'll be running the ball more than we have run it in some time. We've got a pretty stout front five and if they stay healthy I think a nice running game should be apparent, especially with a QB (Louis) who has pretty good speed.

Defensively, we will be great in the secondary and pretty good on the edges. So, expect Memorial to open the season with a lot of up-the-gut, four yards and a cloud of dust kind of game plan. Our noseguard and our two ILB's can play with Memorial, than we'll know we have a pretty salty defensive this year and might win a lot of 17-14 kind of games.

But, Friendswood and Brenham will surely test that secondary.

Can't wait to see how it goes. I really don't know whether Stratford will be able to step up to the tougher competition. Kind of ironic, but 4A is definitely going to be a tougher sled than what we've been used to in 5A.

shslb15
07-19-2010, 08:53 AM
I have no basis for commenting until I see the kids play. But I know Stratford plays Memorial and Friendswood in the nondistrict schedule, and Montgomery and Brenham in district, so it's a tougher schedule than we've had in some time even in 5A. 7-3 could be a hell of a great record, and 6-4 will still be a playoff team.

Offensively, my guess is we'll be running the ball more than we have run it in some time. We've got a pretty stout front five and if they stay healthy I think a nice running game should be apparent, especially with a QB (Louis) who has pretty good speed.

Defensively, we will be great in the secondary and pretty good on the edges. So, expect Memorial to open the season with a lot of up-the-gut, four yards and a cloud of dust kind of game plan. Our noseguard and our two ILB's can play with Memorial, than we'll know we have a pretty salty defensive this year and might win a lot of 17-14 kind of games.

But, Friendswood and Brenham will surely test that secondary.

Can't wait to see how it goes. I really don't know whether Stratford will be able to step up to the tougher competition. Kind of ironic, but 4A is definitely going to be a tougher sled than what we've been used to in 5A.

HE RETURNS!!

78 I've been reading the stuff you have been writing on chron.com especially about the travesty about the new field up at Stratford. Keep on writing good stuff.

grasshopper
07-19-2010, 09:21 AM
HE RETURNS!!

78 I've been reading the stuff you have been writing on chron.com especially about the travesty about the new field up at Stratford. Keep on writing good stuff.

where on chron.com..you have a link

Raiders09
07-19-2010, 02:45 PM
where on chron.com..you have a link

I've seen his articles at ultimatememorial.com, they're very good, here's a link to one of them, http://www.ultimatememorial.com/2010/05/sbisd-board-decide-cripps-stadium

clemensbuff
07-20-2010, 01:58 PM
1.Brenham
2.Angleton
3. Friendswood
4. Stratford
5. Crosby
6.Montgomery
7.Dawson
8. PNG
9. Manvel
10.Willis

There are some good teams on this list dada. Which ones are likely to be D1 this year? I know that D1 in R4 will be loaded with good teams as well with the likes of LT, Smithson Valley, and Alamo Heights all going D1 and most likely Kerrville Tivy as well this year.

Raiders09
07-20-2010, 03:55 PM
There are some good teams on this list dada. Which ones are likely to be D1 this year? I know that D1 in R4 will be loaded with good teams as well with the likes of LT, Smithson Valley, and Alamo Heights all going D1 and most likely Kerrville Tivy as well this year.

Brenham is D2
Angleton is D1
Friendswood is D1
Stratford is D1
Crosby is D1
Montgomery is D1
Pearland Dawson is D1
PNG is D2
Manvel is D2
Willis is D2

clemensbuff
07-21-2010, 08:12 AM
Brenham is D2
Angleton is D1
Friendswood is D1
Stratford is D1
Crosby is D1
Montgomery is D1
Pearland Dawson is D1
PNG is D2
Manvel is D2
Willis is D2


Lots of good D1s, just like R4!

Raiders09
07-21-2010, 04:08 PM
Lots of good D1s, just like R4!

Yeah a lot of good ones but I say LT wins another State Title this year

Ltcav83
07-21-2010, 06:54 PM
There are some good teams on this list dada. Which ones are likely to be D1 this year? I know that D1 in R4 will be loaded with good teams as well with the likes of LT, Smithson Valley, and Alamo Heights all going D1 and most likely Kerrville Tivy as well this year.

Pretty sure that Alamo Heights will go D2 this year. Tivy should be D1. Cedar Park could be a load in D1 as well. I do not believe that anyone in Region 3 can challenge LT, though.

clemensbuff
07-22-2010, 10:26 AM
Pretty sure that Alamo Heights will go D2 this year. Tivy should be D1. Cedar Park could be a load in D1 as well. I do not believe that anyone in Region 3 can challenge LT, though.

Man, you are exactly right. I had no idea that AH was the 2nd smallest school in that district! I still haven't figured out how SV only has 2,052 kids! That campus is absolutely huge! And, they are adding on another 100,000+/- square feet right now! OMG :eek:

Spr Br Smithson Valley 2052
Buda Hays 1962
New Braunfels Canyon 1919
Kyle Lehman 1854
Schertz Clemens 1563
SA Alamo Heights 1515
Lockhart 1273

wolfpack4life
07-22-2010, 11:02 AM
Man, you are exactly right. I had no idea that AH was the 2nd smallest school in that district! I still haven't figured out how SV only has 2,052 kids! That campus is absolutely huge! And, they are adding on another 100,000+/- square feet right now! OMG :eek:

Spr Br Smithson Valley 2052
Buda Hays 1962
New Braunfels Canyon 1919
Kyle Lehman 1854
Schertz Clemens 1563
SA Alamo Heights 1515
Lockhart 1273
Comal ISD is so wierd to me. Everything is spread out and all 3 High Schools are in diffrent cities. Heck, Canyon High is in New Braunfels, Yet New Braunfels has their own ISD.

clemensbuff
07-26-2010, 09:50 AM
Comal ISD is so wierd to me. Everything is spread out and all 3 High Schools are in diffrent cities. Heck, Canyon High is in New Braunfels, Yet New Braunfels has their own ISD.

You got that right! CISD is still growing strong and if the economy comes back, it will simply blow up! I was talking to a district aministrator the other day and they feel that the next 15-20 years they will possibly triple in size!!! I heard from somebody here in NB that if the district was 'built out' they would possibly have as many as 10-12 high schools! It is an absolutely huge schoold district in land size and could become that way in student body as well in the very near future.

Canyon HS is in the City of NB on IH35. Smithson Valley is on Highway 46 about 5 miles SE of Hwy 281, and Canyon Lake Hs is near Hancock on RR 32.

Ex LT player
08-08-2010, 12:41 AM
Pretty sure that Alamo Heights will go D2 this year. Tivy should be D1. Cedar Park could be a load in D1 as well. I do not believe that anyone in Region 3 can challenge LT, though.

If region 3 teams don't get about 50 points better then they've been the last three years then I'd have to agree.

On a side note, I went Montgomery in middle school and they were awful then. Glad to see they have a solid team now. :)

Raiders09
08-08-2010, 03:14 PM
If region 3 teams don't get about 50 points better then they've been the last three years then I'd have to agree.

On a side note, I went Montgomery in middle school and they were awful then. Glad to see they have a solid team now. :)

No one in D1 Region D3 should be able to knock out Lake Travis. LT will go to another State Title game and Win it all again.

dada
08-08-2010, 04:54 PM
If region 3 teams don't get about 50 points better then they've been the last three years then I'd have to agree.

On a side note, I went Montgomery in middle school and they were awful then. Glad to see they have a solid team now. :)

When did you go to Montgomery Middle?

BLEE20
08-09-2010, 09:57 AM
No one in D1 Region D3 should be able to knock out Lake Travis. LT will go to another State Title game and Win it all again.

I have three teams capable of knocking them out.

1. Friendswood
2. Angleton
3. Humble

Friendswood- Lets face it; when this team is good- they are good. They look to have the defense to go with that offensive game plan of out scoring the opponent. The addition of the pearland move-in strengthens a much needed improvement on the defensive front 4. I would estimate that if they can get out of the region, they have the horses to run with LT. That an Coach Van Meters experiance against prolific offenses is critical in his potential match up against LT, i don't think their is a coach with a better understanding of the spread in the Region III area. The Mustangs run a Spread Offense kin that Air-Raid Tech offense.

Angleton- Not many teams feature the level of skill talent that angelton does, at any level. Angelton over the course of the last 3-4 years has produced a considerable amout of deadly athetlic talent that every coach dreams of. the 2010 version really isn't any different. Q Diggs, is perhaps the most lethal offensive weapon outside of your phenom 5 RB's (Brown, Gray, Williams, Green, Dobbins). He doubles as an offensive and defensive threat, some say he is a better defender. OL-Trey Cassidy will ancor the offensive line, he is already committed to Colorodo state. RB jackson returns to the soon to be two headed running monster that is Diggs-Jackson. As well as WR Judkins (2013). The strength however is probably defensively, much to the suprise of some. The Defense is anchored by LB Webster Jones and Defensive Linemen Aaron Davis. RB Jackson also doubles as a salty Linebacker as well. All in all the biggest concerns for Angelton is Depth, the fact that they have many of their best players going both ways is going to hurt them against a team like LT. But i would never count them out, because they are VERY talented.

Humble- Perhaps the biggest darkhorse in this region. The fact that i am not seeing much on them is a bit of a shock to me. Considering that Humble with a sizeable decrease in numbers due to numerous splits has remained competitive up until last season should be a favorite to wreck havoc. I haven't read to much about them, but i have heard some things from different sources. I read on( http://twitter.com/JeffHowe247) Jeff Howe's twitter that Humble had three 2012 defensive linemen that will most defenitly be heavily recruited division 1 prospects. that to me is a staggering number and a great bit of luck for Humble. Having three division 1 linemen on the same line? That is huge. Offensively they are a bit young but i have heard they are returning to a Power I pro-style set for at least half of its offensive formations. That is going to suit them well, they have needed to go back to that offense since they graduated Jerrod Johnson. all in all, this is probably the only team in Region III-4a that can match angleton athlete for athlete this year.

Ltcav83
08-09-2010, 11:15 AM
I have three teams capable of knocking them out.

1. Friendswood
2. Angleton
3. Humble

Friendswood- Lets face it; when this team is good- they are good. They look to have the defense to go with that offensive game plan of out scoring the opponent. The addition of the pearland move-in strengthens a much needed improvement on the defensive front 4. I would estimate that if they can get out of the region, they have the horses to run with LT. That an Coach Van Meters experiance against prolific offenses is critical in his potential match up against LT, i don't think their is a coach with a better understanding of the spread in the Region III area. The Mustangs run a Spread Offense kin that Air-Raid Tech offense.

Angleton- Not many teams feature the level of skill talent that angelton does, at any level. Angelton over the course of the last 3-4 years has produced a considerable amout of deadly athetlic talent that every coach dreams of. the 2010 version really isn't any different. Q Diggs, is perhaps the most lethal offensive weapon outside of your phenom 5 RB's (Brown, Gray, Williams, Green, Dobbins). He doubles as an offensive and defensive threat, some say he is a better defender. OL-Trey Cassidy will ancor the offensive line, he is already committed to Colorodo state. RB jackson returns to the soon to be two headed running monster that is Diggs-Jackson. As well as WR Judkins (2013). The strength however is probably defensively, much to the suprise of some. The Defense is anchored by LB Webster Jones and Defensive Linemen Aaron Davis. RB Jackson also doubles as a salty Linebacker as well. All in all the biggest concerns for Angelton is Depth, the fact that they have many of their best players going both ways is going to hurt them against a team like LT. But i would never count them out, because they are VERY talented.

Humble- Perhaps the biggest darkhorse in this region. The fact that i am not seeing much on them is a bit of a shock to me. Considering that Humble with a sizeable decrease in numbers due to numerous splits has remained competitive up until last season should be a favorite to wreck havoc. I haven't read to much about them, but i have heard some things from different sources. I read on( http://twitter.com/JeffHowe247) Jeff Howe's twitter that Humble had three 2012 defensive linemen that will most defenitly be heavily recruited division 1 prospects. that to me is a staggering number and a great bit of luck for Humble. Having three division 1 linemen on the same line? That is huge. Offensively they are a bit young but i have heard they are returning to a Power I pro-style set for at least half of its offensive formations. That is going to suit them well, they have needed to go back to that offense since they graduated Jerrod Johnson. all in all, this is probably the only team in Region III-4a that can match angleton athlete for athlete this year.

Very good summary. In regard to Friendswood, I was shocked at the 2008 Friendswood/LT semifinal game at how much of a mismatch that it was. I expected Friendswood with Karam/Geautrex (sp) and that really good running back #11 I believe, to be more competitive than they were. They had no chance at stopping LT and their offense never got untracked. LT could have scored 70 points easily in that game. I hear that FW will be good again this year and has a chance to get out of Region III.

Angleton, to me, is the wild card. Very talented and very fast. Unfortunately, against LT, a one dimensional team cannot get it done. Unless Angleton can at least show the pass, LT will load up to stop the run and make it very difficult on the Wildcats. Also, teams without alot of depth struggle when LT goes hurry up on offense. I would love to see this matchup with Angleton.

Humble is interesting. Seems to be alot of talent, but the team has struggled. If the defensive coaching is not top notch, they would have a difficult time against a sophisticated offense like LT's.

The last 3 years against Region III have been a mismatch against LT in the semifinals. All of the games, especially the Dawson and Friendswood games, could have been much, much worse than they were. I suspect that Friendswood would have a better chance than Angleton if they were to meet LT again. When teams see LT for the first time, they are caught off guard by the precision of the offense and the scheme of the defense. I suspect that Van Meter would be more prepared this time around.

Good luck to all of those Region III teams and I hope that LT goes far enough to see one of them again this year.

BLEE20
08-09-2010, 11:48 AM
Very good summary. In regard to Friendswood, I was shocked at the 2008 Friendswood/LT semifinal game at how much of a mismatch that it was. I expected Friendswood with Karam/Geautrex (sp) and that really good running back #11 I believe, to be more competitive than they were. They had no chance at stopping LT and their offense never got untracked. LT could have scored 70 points easily in that game. I hear that FW will be good again this year and has a chance to get out of Region III.

Angleton, to me, is the wild card. Very talented and very fast. Unfortunately, against LT, a one dimensional team cannot get it done. Unless Angleton can at least show the pass, LT will load up to stop the run and make it very difficult on the Wildcats. Also, teams without alot of depth struggle when LT goes hurry up on offense. I would love to see this matchup with Angleton.

Humble is interesting. Seems to be alot of talent, but the team has struggled. If the defensive coaching is not top notch, they would have a difficult time against a sophisticated offense like LT's.

The last 3 years against Region III have been a mismatch against LT in the semifinals. All of the games, especially the Dawson and Friendswood games, could have been much, much worse than they were. I suspect that Friendswood would have a better chance than Angleton if they were to meet LT again. When teams see LT for the first time, they are caught off guard by the precision of the offense and the scheme of the defense. I suspect that Van Meter would be more prepared this time around.

Good luck to all of those Region III teams and I hope that LT goes far enough to see one of them again this year.

I agree on all accounts.

Friendswood had a defense that was lack luster at best in '08, which shouldn't be the case this year. Defensive play can determine the success of a spread offense pretty quickly, by nature the spread is designed to set up for the big play. If you are constantly trying to play catch up or starting at the 20-30 yard line setting things up the way you like them can be hard. If Friendswood can be as good as they look on paper defensively they have a shot at doing some serious damange.

Angleton is extremly one deminsional, much to its own determent. However, it has proven to be affective as most teams don't have an answer to the angelton speed phenom. But thats why the game is played.

Humble is interesting, but if you really look at why Humble has struggled a drop down is really benifical. Humble has been competing with 4a numbers for the better part of 6 years and still managed to be a rather competitive 5a team. They are no slouch program. Humble will feature one of the most athletic defensive units in the region, and perahps the state. Defense is the strong point, and that is a good place to start for any program. The offense should be explosive as well, but only time will tell with an offense only returning 3 starters. I think teams like Humble and Ball have an edge, and that is they have played some solid 5a programs and those kids are still suiting up.

Ex LT player
08-09-2010, 04:23 PM
When did you go to Montgomery Middle?

early 2000s. i lived there between 3rd and 8th grade before i moved to LT

dada
08-09-2010, 04:39 PM
early 2000s. i lived there between 3rd and 8th grade before i moved to LT

Ok, I know some one that went there late 90's graduated from Montgomery HS in 2001