Best Home Record

[South Texas]

Another post has said Lufkin hasn't lost at home in four years. What other schools has the best record, it doesn't matter if they have to share a stadium either.

[pack0808]

Another post has said Lufkin hasn't lost at home in four years. What other schools has the best record, it doesn't matter if they have to share a stadium either.


I think Northshore had a very long home winning streak until Westfield beat them last year in the playoffs?

[CKE]

SV had something like a 38 game winning streak until they played Pflugerville 2 years ago.

[Daniel Agnew]

I know when Permian had their run their home record was second to none as well I don't have the actual record though. But Lufkin's is the best right now.

[pack0808]

He is wanting the current streaks i think. I have to go back and count Lufkin's but i know it has been almost 4 years since they have lost at home. I am sure SLC is way up there or better also.

[dragonsdaddy]

slc's last loss home was to coppell in week 3 of 01. have won 24 in a row since, by my count. that includes 2 po wins.

[CKE]

slc's last loss home was to coppell in week 3 of 01. have won 24 in a row since, by my count. that includes 2 po wins.

are you counting the games played at texas stadium

[dragonsdaddy]

are you counting the games played at texas stadium
that is only at dragon stadium. we are 14-1 over the same period, at ts, with a loss to ennis to end the 01 season, in the semis.

[Favpack]

Lufkin's last home loss was the overtime mud bowl thriller to Tyler Lee in Oct. 2002 - not sure what the winning streak is since.

[CKE]

that is only at dragon stadium. we are 14-1 over the same period, at ts, with a loss to ennis to end the 01 season, in the semis.

o cause in 04 yall played more games in TS than at dragon stadium so it think those count as home games

[AllenEagle06]

What is Celina's biggest home win streak? I don't know how many wins they've had at home but I know it's a lot.

[Big Daddy Cool]

I think Northshore had a very long home winning streak until Westfield beat them last year in the playoffs?


They still do as far as regular season records go.

[drgnbkr]

o cause in 04 yall played more games in TS than at dragon stadium so it think those count as home games

Well I guess if you think TS is the Dragons home field..so be it! It's all about winning playoff games..if you win they let you keep playing..it's kind of cool how that works..

[CKE]

Well I guess if you think TS is the Dragons home field..so be it! It's all about winning playoff games..if you win they let you keep playing..it's kind of cool how that works..

yeah it was pretty much the home field in 04 i say count em. it makes the streak go up:D

[badger95]

SV had something like a 38 game winning streak until they played Pflugerville 2 years ago.

Pflugerville broke Westlake's long home-game winning streak in the playoffs in 2004. I think it was at 50+ games.

[CKE]

Pflugerville broke Westlake's long home-game winning streak in the playoffs in 2004. I think it was at 50+ games.

yeah i remember that pfulugerville messed everything up that year. alllllllllllllllllll for nothing

[Slim-Rob]

SV had something like a 38 game winning streak until they played Pflugerville 2 years ago.

Then SV dropped another to J-Rock....

[CKE]

Then SV dropped another to J-Rock....

then some little loser tagged the buses

[Slim-Rob]

then some little loser tagged the buses

yep.....but Judson is used to being tagged. You should have seen our field house earlier this year. We had JM and TR painted all over.

[CKE]

yep.....but Judson is used to being tagged. You should have seen our field house earlier this year. We had JM and TR painted all over.

Yeah judson tagged the field with there name later on that year. but it was just a name it was not morth making CNN like the tagging of the buses................wait a minute your the rep for them it was you that did that story wasnt it:eek:

[Slim-Rob]

Yeah judson tagged the field with there name later on that year. but it was just a name it was not morth making CNN like the tagging of the buses................wait a minute your the rep for them it was you that did that story wasnt it:eek:

Judson didn't tag jack s***. An SV student did that...

[CKE]

Judson didn't tag jack s***. An SV student did that...

ehhhhhh idk about that one they did catch the kid cause he was dumb enough to leace the paint cans there.....thats what the coaches told us anyway

[Slim-Rob]

ehhhhhh idk about that one they did catch the kid cause he was dumb enough to leace the paint cans there.....thats what the coaches told us anyway

I don't know for sure, but the news said an SV student admitted to it.

[CKE]

I don't know for sure, but the news said an SV student admitted to it.

huh well anyway i still cant belive there was a kid dumb enought to write stuff like that on the buses. it really made our FB team look bad.

[Slim-Rob]

huh well anyway i still cant belive there was a kid dumb enought to write stuff like that on the buses. it really made our FB team look bad.

I don't think that incident made your FOOTBALL team look bad, because they were on the field when it happend. It doesn't really make any of your programs look bad because everyone involved was on the field or in the stands.....

I'm not going to talk about what was said to some of our players, because that kind of stuff is going to happen when you are competing...

[CKE]

I don't think that incident made your FOOTBALL team look bad, because they were on the field when it happend. It doesn't really make any of your programs look bad because everyone involved was on the field or in the stands.....

I'm not going to talk about what was said to some of our players, because that kind of stuff is going to happen when you are competing...

That i will admit to things were said and i promise you it was taken care of by our coaches. you cant control every kid there is always going to be trouble makers. its rare in a program like sv but it did happen im sorry that happened dude

[Slim-Rob]

That i will admit to things were said and i promise you it was taken care of by our coaches. you cant control every kid there is always going to be trouble makers. its rare in a program like sv but it did happen im sorry that happened dude

I don't care, really. I know it's going to happen every time in a situation like that, and I'm sure I don't know the half of it. I only know about what was said to our players, idk if our players said anything, but I don't doubt it.

All in all, that was a great game. So was this years.

[CKE]

I don't care, really. I know it's going to happen every time in a situation like that, and I'm sure I don't know the half of it. I only know about what was said to our players, idk if our players said anything, but I don't doubt it.

All in all, that was a great game. So was this years.

Next years will be great as well

P.S. some notice punks

[Slim-Rob]

Next years will be great as well

P.S. some notice punks

QUE?

I think next years will be exciting, as both teams are rebuilding.

[CKE]

QUE?

I think next years will be exciting, as both teams are rebuilding.

QUE FOR THE QUE

yeah so what do you think about wagner using the judson field though i mean if they make people mad as well then dont you think they will tag the field because of them as well

[Slim-Rob]

QUE FOR THE QUE

yeah so what do you think about wagner using the judson field though i mean if they make people mad as well then dont you think they will tag the field because of them as well

I haven't got no clue what you be talking about right in that post that I quoted.

[CKE]

I haven't got no clue what you be talking about right in that post that I quoted.

well we were talking about tagging and wagner is using the judson field as a home field. dont you think people will tag the field because the dont like wagner as well

[Slim-Rob]

well we were talking about tagging and wagner is using the judson field as a home field. dont you think people will tag the field because the dont like wagner as well

Not really. But I sure do hope Judson doesn't make their parking stickers too big next year, cause I live in the Wagner zone.....

[CKE]

Not really. But I sure do hope Judson doesn't make their parking stickers too big next year, cause I live in the Wagner zone.....
yeah sv knid of got away from the whole sticker thing. noe the thing to do is have a sv hitch on the back of your car everyone has them now. i wouild like to piont out that was the 2nd one to ever have one.................... EVER

[Slim-Rob]

yeah sv knid of got away from the whole sticker thing. noe the thing to do is have a sv hitch on the back of your car everyone has them now. i wouild like to piont out that was the 2nd one to ever have one.................... EVER
Judson fans are big on bumper stickers. FEAR THIS and such. They are selling Diamond Js to go on your car. They are "chrome". really they are plastic, but they look nice

[CKE]

Judson fans are big on bumper stickers. FEAR THIS and such. They are selling Diamond Js to go on your car. They are "chrome". really they are plastic, but they look nice
lol il continue this later rocket i need to go get some food ill tell you what i ate when i get back

[Slim-Rob]

lol il continue this later rocket i need to go get some food ill tell you what i ate when i get back

alright man. I'll catch you later.

WE OWN

[pack0808]

I looked it up and here is Lufkin's home record as of late. It is 18 in a row! This is only counting the regular season because they have not played a home playoff game in 7 years. Now a few teams might have won more in a row then Lufkin at home recently but what makes there streak special is the amount of top 10 teams they have played and beat at home during this streak. I can almost promise you that nobody has played a tougher schedule at home then Lufkin in the last 5 years or so. Lufkin has won 18 in a row at home since 2002. Last loss was to Tyler Lee (div1 state semifinalist) by 1 point in ot in 2002. ( 4 years) Lufkin is 20-1 at home since 2002 and 24-2 since 2001 (only loss besides Lee was to the #2 team in the nation) They are 28-3 since 2000. (6 years) But here is the really impressive part. Since 2000, Lufkin has played 12 top 10 teams at home while winning 9, and going 28-3 overall. :eek: Their only 3 losses were to the #5 team at the time in Ike (2000) ,the #7 team at the time Tyler Lee (2002) and the #2 team in the nation at the time Evangel in 2001. Not bad!

[Slim-Rob]

how was dinner coolest?

[CKE]

i found out that sv has 50 wins out of 54 home games from the year 1996 to 2005 thats neat

[drgnbkr]

i found out that sv has 50 wins out of 54 home games from the year 1996 to 2005 thats neat

The Dragons are ubeaten everywhere but the Alamodome in 5-A....:p

[CKE]

The Dragons are ubeaten everywhere but the Alamodome in 5-A....:p

LOL you dragon poeple like bursting my bubble dont ya'll

[drgnbkr]

LOL you dragon poeple like bursting my bubble dont ya'll

Pop!.....:D No, it just has to be mentioned when talking about best home records

[pack0808]

The Dragons are ubeaten everywhere but the Alamodome in 5-A....:p



That statement made me think a little. Lufkin's road record is almost identical to Lufkin's home record in the last 5 years. Lufkin is more dominant at home if you are going by the average score for vs the average score against but the record's are very close.


In the last 5 years: overall record 63-9

Lufkin's Home record 23-2 (current streak 18) Road record 23-3 Neutral record 17-4

[drgnbkr]

That statement made me think a little. Lufkin's road record is almost identical to Lufkin's home record in the last 5 years. Lufkin is more dominant at home if you are going by the average score for vs the average score against but the record's are very close.


In the last 5 years: overall record 63-9

Lufkin's Home record 23-2 (current streak 18) Road record 23-3 Neutral record 17-4

Lufkin "just wins baby!" as Al Davis says...We've been fortunate vs. The Pack, but the rest of the state has not had much success for a while. Anywhere!

[pack0808]

Lufkin "just wins baby!" as Al Davis says...We've been fortuanate vs. The Pack, but the rest of the state has not had much success for a while. Anywhere!


If i said SLC "just wins baby", it would be the understatement of the year.

[vette25_88]

Lufkin's last home loss was the overtime mud bowl thriller to Tyler Lee in Oct. 2002 - not sure what the winning streak is since.

I remember that game and I still think we made that 2-point conversion :D

[Humblefied]

The one thing I don't ever understand about Lufkin is how we scrimmage them every year and we clearly dominate in all scrimmages in all places of the ball yet when the season comes, Lufkin just seems to explode on other teams. It's not like we are playing our stars the whole time, we put even defensive players on offense and make sure everyone plays both sides. Yet by the way you guys are saying it sounds like Lufkin does alot better in the season.

[PackAttack2005]

Excuse you, Humble never clearly dominated Lufkin in either scrimmage they played the past two years. I'm not going to discuss all the particulars of either scrimmage because it is unimportant now. The fact that Lufkin has not won a scrimmage the past several years says it all. Lufkin and John Outlaw put their importance on winning games when they count. Srimmages are only to find depth and see what your backups can do. Humble, just play us when it counts and you will see the difference.

[ktCarl]

Hey! How many of you Lufkin fans are tired of seeing Claybon's picture at the front of this website and would like to notify KT2000 to change it? :eek:

[PackAttack2005]

We enjoy Claybon's picture there, the kid deserves the recognition. Jeremy is underrated by most in the State because he hasn't had the big media exposure others may get in a bigger metropolitian area.

With his experience and leadership as a junior, to go along with his passing and running talent, he will be one of the best quarterbacks in 2006.

[Jtate862003]

I attended the mud bowl game......one of the best highschool memories i have besides the texas stadium 3 ot game vs TWHS..i to thougth LP had the 2 pt conversion...

[ktCarl]

We enjoy Claybon's picture there, the kid deserves the recognition. Jeremy is underrated by most in the State because he hasn't had the big media exposure others may get in a bigger metropolitian area.

With his experience and leadership as a junior, to go along with his passing and running talent, he will one of the best quarterbacks in 2006.

I was just trying to tweek some of you pack fans. I didn't get much attack from you packattack. I saw Claybon play until he got injured at the Cove game last year. He was definitely impressive. I was also impressed with the back-up QB that came in after Claybon was injured. He did a lot for a kid that I would think hadn't got a lot of snaps last year plus was thrust into the Quarter-Final. Good looking kid. I think you Pack lovers are going to have a great season this Fall.

[PackAttack2005]

What really defines a winning " home record " in this day and time? With so many 5A teams "sharing" and playing most of their games at the same stadium, it is becoming very hard to separate true home field advantage for schools.

People like Lufkin, Southlake and Longview truely have a huge home field advantage because they are the only schools to play at their respective stadiums. Can schools such as Garland, Katy, THW/Conroe or Klein feel like they have a " home field " advantage when they are playing most all of their district games at the same stadium?

[drgnbkr]

What really defines a winning " home record " in this day and time? With so many 5A teams "sharing" and playing most of their games at the same stadium, it is becoming very hard to separate true home field advantage for schools.

People like Lufkin, Southlake and Longview truely have a huge home field advantage because they are the only schools to play at their respective stadiums. Can schools such as Garland, Katy, THW/Conroe or Klein feel like they have a " home field " advantage when they are playing most all of their district games at the same stadium?

I think it is the opposite, the team having to go on the road is at a disadvantage, regardless of where it is...but it is correct that a true home field advantageis stronger for single school stadiums.

[pack0808]

The one thing I don't ever understand about Lufkin is how we scrimmage them every year and we clearly dominate in all scrimmages in all places of the ball yet when the season comes, Lufkin just seems to explode on other teams. It's not like we are playing our stars the whole time, we put even defensive players on offense and make sure everyone plays both sides. Yet by the way you guys are saying it sounds like Lufkin does alot better in the season.


OMG how funny is this one. This deserves just as much harrassment as when some of the Longview fans said a similar thing and were bragging about a practice game. You obviously do not pay attention to the playoffs and regular season every year? I guess when you consider Humble's season ends so soon on a yearly basis, yall lose interest in what the better teams are doing late in the playoffs? Lufkin has lost 2 games in 2 years and they were both to the #1 team in the nation SLC. This is hillarious and embarrassing if you are going by meaningless and pointless scrimmage games where everybody plays including the 3rd and 4th string. Lufkin's coach (Outlaw) has said numerous times that he makes no effort to win scrimmage games and the results prove that. Lufkin has not won a scrimmage game since 2001 yet they are somehow 63-9 with a state championship and 3 other state semifinal appearances in that same time period. You do the math. Longview has beat Lufkin 2 straight times in scrimmage games yet somehow Lufkin has won 9 in a row vs Longview in the REAL games. Again do the math. Play Lufkin in a REAL game where it actually counts and their starters actually play for 4 quarters and then talk to me. You would have no chance trust me. Humble is usually gone by the 1st or 2nd round every year even if they make the playoffs while Lufkin is in the state semis almost every year and you have the nerve to brag about a PRACTICE game. :eek: Classic. Some Longview fans tried this one last year and they were made fun of and rightfully so. I am sorry i could not let this one slide. I did see the 1 scrimmage game in 2004 vs Humble. Humble scrubs won vs Lufkin scrubs in the final minute. woopedeedipdedo! Humble acted like they won the super bowl. Truely sad to say the least. I guess when you win as much as Lufkin people will even get excited about meaningless scrimmage games that Lufkin does not even try to win? Oh yeah, how did yall do vs The Woodlands last year in a REAL game because Lufkin blew them out in a REAL game. Again do the math and use your head and try not to get excited about a PRACTICE game because it looks silly.

[pack0808]

Excuse you, Humble never clearly dominated Lufkin in either scrimmage they played the past two years. I'm not going to discuss all the particulars of either scrimmage because it is unimportant now. The fact that Lufkin has not won a scrimmage the past several years says it all. Lufkin and John Outlaw put their importance on winning games when they count. Srimmages are only to find depth and see what your backups can do. Humble, just play us when it counts and you will see the difference.


Ok i did not see this reply. He nailed it but was much nicer then me. :D I am sorry but after the Longview scrimmage bowl stuff i get irritated when people put that much on a 1 half Practice game where everybody plays. Just very hard to understand?

[Drake]

The one thing I don't ever understand about Lufkin is how we scrimmage them every year and we clearly dominate in all scrimmages in all places of the ball yet when the season comes, Lufkin just seems to explode on other teams. It's not like we are playing our stars the whole time, we put even defensive players on offense and make sure everyone plays both sides. Yet by the way you guys are saying it sounds like Lufkin does alot better in the season.I don't see anything wrong with your post. The answer is, as you probably surmised from the previous lashing you received, Lufkin doesn't play to win scrimmages. Since that’s the case and Humble is very talented, Humble wins (outscores) in those meaningless games... Seemed to me you were really asking, in a round-about-way, why Humble doesn't do as well in the playoffs as Lufkin?... Either way, I didn’t see any reason for you to be ridiculed...

[pack0808]

I don't see anything wrong with your post. The answer is, as you probably surmised from the previous lashing you received, Lufkin doesn't play to win scrimmages. Since that’s the case and Humble is very talented, Humble wins (outscores) in those meaningless games... Seemed to me you were really asking, in a round-about-way, why Humble doesn't do as well in the playoffs as Lufkin... Either way, I didn’t see any reason for you to be ridiculed...



I was a little harsh but i have my reasons believe me, and obviously the FACTS back me up. They do not do near as well in the regular season or the playoffs but that is another point. Humble always has talent but they do not play well together as a team. They usually crumble late in the season or early in the playoffs.

[Drake]

I was a little harsh but i have my reasons believe me, and obviously the FACTS back me up. They do not do near as well in the regular season or the playoffs but that is another point. Humble always has talent but they do not play well together as a team. They usually crumble late in the season or early in the playoffs.Don't know anything about any of that... Just seemed like he was asking a question and you took harsh exception that he didn't ALREADY know the answer...

[pack0808]

Don't know anything about any of that... Just seemed like he was asking a question and you took harsh exception that he didn't ALREADY know the answer...


I am sorry if you felt i was out of line and if i hurt his precious feelings? I was just arguing a point about football so give me a break man? I was not attacking him or his family personally. It was about football and it was something that struck a nerve because of the Longview scrimmage game fiasco last year and the year before. He probably did not deserve it. I will tell you what. I will send both you and Mr. Humblefield a flower with an apology letter ASAP because we sure would not want to hurt anybody's precious feelings or belittle them in any way on a football message board. Even if the subject is football!! It is a PC world these days so we need to keep everything PC right? Well you are supporting a private school team so you probably do not have to deal with PC stuff us in the the public school's deal with on a daily basis. I will send the flower regardless. ;)

[Drake]

All I was saying (to Humblefield) was I didn’t think he asked a dumb question or asked it in an abrasive way… How does political correctness or private schools have anything to do with it?

[pack0808]

Just having some fun with you strakedrake. It is all in good fun.

[Drake]

Gotcha, cool...

[statebound123]

sv had a 7 year home winning streak until last year's crushing loss to judson

[CKE]

sv had a 7 year home winning streak until last year's crushing loss to judson

stop reminding me :(

[Humblefied]

OMG how funny is this one. This deserves just as much harrassment as when some of the Longview fans said a similar thing and were bragging about a practice game. You obviously do not pay attention to the playoffs and regular season every year? I guess when you consider Humble's season ends so soon on a yearly basis, yall lose interest in what the better teams are doing late in the playoffs? Lufkin has lost 2 games in 2 years and they were both to the #1 team in the nation SLC. This is hillarious and embarrassing if you are going by meaningless and pointless scrimmage games where everybody plays including the 3rd and 4th string. Lufkin's coach (Outlaw) has said numerous times that he makes no effort to win scrimmage games and the results prove that. Lufkin has not won a scrimmage game since 2001 yet they are somehow 63-9 with a state championship and 3 other state semifinal appearances in that same time period. You do the math. Longview has beat Lufkin 2 straight times in scrimmage games yet somehow Lufkin has won 9 in a row vs Longview in the REAL games. Again do the math. Play Lufkin in a REAL game where it actually counts and their starters actually play for 4 quarters and then talk to me. You would have no chance trust me. Humble is usually gone by the 1st or 2nd round every year even if they make the playoffs while Lufkin is in the state semis almost every year and you have the nerve to brag about a PRACTICE game. :eek: Classic. Some Longview fans tried this one last year and they were made fun of and rightfully so. I am sorry i could not let this one slide. I did see the 1 scrimmage game in 2004 vs Humble. Humble scrubs won vs Lufkin scrubs in the final minute. woopedeedipdedo! Humble acted like they won the super bowl. Truely sad to say the least. I guess when you win as much as Lufkin people will even get excited about meaningless scrimmage games that Lufkin does not even try to win? Oh yeah, how did yall do vs The Woodlands last year in a REAL game because Lufkin blew them out in a REAL game. Again do the math and use your head and try not to get excited about a PRACTICE game because it looks silly.


Whoa, hold up there partner. I miss one day and then all this. Whether not its a PRACTICE or not I was simply asking how it is that when we scrimmage I never see Jeremy Clayborn just go crazy or anyone else for that matter and just so amazing talent. Down to the last strings of our team we always seemed to have the upper hand, but on the other hand I never truely knew what string Lufkin had on the field as well. So it very could have been Humble's top players vs. Lufkin's scrubs. And talking about The Woodlands, we can see that Humble did play a tough Katy game where we were already pretty banged up for. I'm not making excuses but I know we could have played better against them if we a different schedule and would have liked to see what would have happened.

[pack0808]

Whoa, hold up there partner. I miss one day and then all this. Whether not its a PRACTICE or not I was simply asking how it is that when we scrimmage I never see Jeremy Clayborn just go crazy or anyone else for that matter and just so amazing talent. Down to the last strings of our team we always seemed to have the upper hand, but on the other hand I never truely knew what string Lufkin had on the field as well. So it very could have been Humble's top players vs. Lufkin's scrubs. And talking about The Woodlands, we can see that Humble did play a tough Katy game where we were already pretty banged up for. I'm not making excuses but I know we could have played better against them if we a different schedule and would have liked to see what would have happened.


The Real season results speak for themselves each year. Like i said, Lufkin has not won a scrimmage game since 2001 yet they are 63-9 with a state championship and 3 state semi appearances in that same time span. Only SLC can top that. That tells you how seriously they take scrimmage games and how many scrubs play in them. Lufkin does not game plan to win scrimmage games and never will as long as Outlaw is there. They use scrimmage games to to look at depth. Sorry if i blew up i must have been in a bad mood that day? :eek: After the longview scrimmage game stuff i guess i blew up after hearing somebody else mentioning a scrimmage game. You just did not understand. I could have told you in a nicer way. My bad. That is a weak excuse on The Woodlands game. What was your excuse for 2 straight mediocre football seasons? ;) I was hoping Lufkin would schedule Humble in a real game this year but yall were already full. I wanted Humble fans to see first hand the difference. Like night and day literally. Ask Longview.

[svcenter53]

Another post has said Lufkin hasn't lost at home in four years. What other schools has the best record, it doesn't matter if they have to share a stadium either.

SV was on run of 6 years until last year when we lost to pflugerville thats a hell of a ru...but of course we wernt facing the calliber of teams we are now!

[Humblefied]

The Real season results speak for themselves each year. Like i said, Lufkin has not won a scrimmage game since 2001 yet they are 63-9 with a state championship and 3 state semi appearances in that same time span. Only SLC can top that. That tells you how seriously they take scrimmage games and how many scrubs play in them. Lufkin does not game plan to win scrimmage games and never will as long as Outlaw is there. They use scrimmage games to to look at depth. Sorry if i blew up i must have been in a bad mood that day? :eek: After the longview scrimmage game stuff i guess i blew up after hearing somebody else mentioning a scrimmage game. You just did not understand. I could have told you in a nicer way. My bad. That is a weak excuse on The Woodlands game. What was your excuse for 2 straight mediocre football seasons? ;) I was hoping Lufkin would schedule Humble in a real game this year but yall were already full. I wanted Humble fans to see first hand the difference. Like night and day literally. Ask Longview.

Oh trust me. I believe you guys are good. I know probably more than anyone at Humble for two reasons, seeing you guys play and being on this board. I guess that is a weak excuse and I'm not saying we would have killed The Woodlands but from a trainers stand point we had many players that we would have been glad to have on the field for that game. Really, I don't remember what happened at the scrimmage in 04' but Humble has its tendencies to get hyped on little things and I guess thats one good thing about us. We can find a way to get moving easier than most teams. We just arent consistent. My excuse for two mediocre seasons? You can't have any. What has happened has happened so thats all I have to say.