Shocking discovery

[mojotrain]

Levy Johntson admits he was lying about Sarah Palin and her family.:eek:

[JagFan]

Levy Johntson admits he was lying about Sarah Palin and her family.:eek:

He even gave a public apology to them. Good for him I hope he means it and they can work something out for the sake of the child.

[ktCarl]

Howcome feenix didn't start this post? :rolleyes:

[BDB]

so it's not his kid?

[JagFan]

so it's not his kid?

It is his kid. I have not kept up with the story but apparently he said alot of things about the Palins when they broke up. They are now trying to be civil for the sake of the child. I wish them well in this but hope they now keep it in the family. (all of them)

[cougmantx]

It is his kid. I have not kept up with the story but apparently he said alot of things about the Palins when they broke up. They are now trying to be civil for the sake of the child. I wish them well in this but hope they now keep it in the family. (all of them)

Palins = Ignorant people

[BDB]

It is his kid. I have not kept up with the story but apparently he said alot of things about the Palins when they broke up. They are now trying to be civil for the sake of the child. I wish them well in this but hope they now keep it in the family. (all of them)

oh...so the candidate who ran on ethics and morals's kid had a baby as a teenager.

as long as that's still true.

[JagFan]

oh...so the candidate who ran on ethics and morals's kid had a baby as a teenager.

as long as that's still true.

Yes that is still true.

[farmerfan]

Palins = Ignorant people

99.9% of all people are ignorant and that includes you and myself in that group.

[mad_fan]

oh...so the candidate who ran on ethics and morals's kid had a baby as a teenager.

as long as that's still true.

Good thing the teenager wasnt running for office...

[BDB]

Good thing the teenager wasnt running for office...

too bad her momma ran on the wholesome family campaign :(

[mad_fan]

too bad her momma ran on the wholesome family campaign :(

If my mother had an control of me at 16...I might agree...

[BDB]

If my mother had an control of me at 16...I might agree...

i think "control" and not getting knocked up are 2 different things. that's prolly just me, though.

[cougmantx]

99.9% of all people are ignorant and that includes you and myself in that group.

I may be at this moment but I at least have some experience in how it works. We are bunch of suckers...

I have been privy to some of it in days gone by...

[mad_fan]

i think "control" and not getting knocked up are 2 different things. that's prolly just me, though.

You can pick a different word...
It could have been weed or booze...we'd have heard a similar story...bad mother...preaching to the rest of us...

[BDB]

You can pick a different word...
It could have been weed or booze...we'd have heard a similar story...bad mother...preaching to the rest of us...

weed and booze doesn't bring another creature into the world.... wait a minute....

[Dawg Fan]

weed and booze doesn't bring another creature into the world.... wait a minute....


you would actually have some ground here if they had aborted the child but until you have kids of your own, you really don't have anything to talk about on this.

I have found that the stricter the parents the more likely the kids will go off the reservation (so to speak) You can't say that Palin is a hypocrite because he daughter made a mistake.

[slcdragonfan]

you would actually have some ground here if they had aborted the child but until you have kids of your own, you really don't have anything to talk about on this.

I have found that the stricter the parents the more likely the kids will go off the reservation (so to speak) You can't say that Palin is a hypocrite because he daughter made a mistake.

Don't blame the parents unless they get all holier than thou. Then just for the attitude, not the parenting.
Kids make mistakes. BIG ones too. Were any of us kids once? Somehow we survived. They will too.

Sometimes you do everything right, and it still ends up wrong. Sometimes you do everything wrong, and it ends up right. Kinda like some football games.

[Firebird]

I feel bad for both of the kids that something which should have unfolded at home, between two families and with minimal outside scrutiny instead played out on national TV and in every newspaper across the country. Most teenagers who go through breakups do and say things that in retrospect they wish they hadn't. It's just part of teenage angst and relationships. Most of them don't have national news outlets egging them on, though.

Although he shouldn't have told lies on TV, it's pretty clear that his actions hurt Sarah Palin far less than the media as well as the political machine hurt him. From the moment he was paraded out at the GOP convention to wave and look handsome and wholesome, he was in for a world of hurt. But as an 18 year old kid from the Alaskan boonies, he never saw it coming.

[JagFan]

I feel bad for both of the kids that something which should have unfolded at home, between two families and with minimal outside scrutiny instead played out on national TV and in every newspaper across the country. Most teenagers who go through breakups do and say things that in retrospect they wish they hadn't. It's just part of teenage angst and relationships. Most of them don't have national news outlets egging them on, though.

I agree. I hope they can move on and work things out, on their own and not in public. I think sometimes people forget there is a child involved and that should come first. Public arguments and finger pointing does nothing for the child.

[Dawg Fan]

Don't blame the parents unless they get all holier than thou. Then just for the attitude, not the parenting.
Kids make mistakes. BIG ones too. Were any of us kids once? Somehow we survived. They will too.

Sometimes you do everything right, and it still ends up wrong. Sometimes you do everything wrong, and it ends up right. Kinda like some football games.

exactly! As a parent I have tried to do my best to teach my kids how to make the right decisions in life but even then they seem to want to find out for themselves that I knew what I was talking about. I guess we all go through stages in our life when we are susceptible to doing something stupid. Luckily for me it didn't end me up in jail or worse when I was younger. We try to make theses kids lives easier than ours were and I think we are probably doing more harm than good.

[BDB]

Don't blame the parents unless they get all holier than thou. Then just for the attitude, not the parenting.
Kids make mistakes. BIG ones too. Were any of us kids once? Somehow we survived. They will too.

Sometimes you do everything right, and it still ends up wrong. Sometimes you do everything wrong, and it ends up right. Kinda like some football games.

this.

[mad_fan]

Don't blame the parents unless they get all holier than thou.

I get it now...I'm converted...
If a serial killers parent hate God...they are good to go...
If a serial killers parents are devote Christians...execute them with the serial killer...
If the serial killer is Muslim...he/she and the whole family get a pass(port) and a green card...
:rolleyes:

[ktCarl]

99.9% of all people are ignorant and that includes you and myself in that group.

I am that .1% of people.

[mad_fan]

I am that .1% of people.

Good timing...I have room for one more...:)

[GoOwls]

i think "control" and not getting knocked up are 2 different things. that's prolly just me, though.

Since you can't get knocked up, it's prolly just you.

(you can't get knocked up....can you?) ;)

[GoOwls]

Palins = Ignorant people

People who believed Levi Johnson = ignorant people

Translation: People who were so scared of Sarah Palin that they were looking for anything to discredit her and believed a hick kid from Wasilla = ignorant people.

[slorch]

oh...so the candidate who ran on ethics and morals's kid had a baby as a teenager.

as long as that's still true.

I don't think perfection was ever part of her platform... just sayin

I guess if young Palin had been aborted, in your eyes, Momma Palin would have satisfied your expectation?

I'd say the actions are consistent with how she presented herself. In today's political arena, i find that especially refreshing. Nice reach with holding her accountable for her almost grown child as well...

[GoOwls]

oh...so the candidate who ran on ethics and morals's kid had a baby as a teenager.

as long as that's still true.

Focus there prez, focus.

This is about the guy who's poster is over your bed being a liar....the guy you and fenix and others got behind, literally and physically, because he said something about someone you feared.

You've established that you think Palin is a nut....partly based on his lies....what do you have to say for yourself now that he confessed to his deception?

Yet another time you were fooled and I was right all along......the train is leaving the station...there is still time for you to get on it.....;)

[dragonsdaddy]

Palins = Ignorant people
are you answering to pot or kettle this morning?

[BDB]

I don't think perfection was ever part of her platform... just sayin perfection and you teenage daughter making her boyfriend wear a condom are hardly the same thing.

I guess if young Palin had been aborted, in your eyes, Momma Palin would have satisfied your expectation? nope. i'm personally against abortion.

I'd say the actions are consistent with how she presented herself. In today's political arena, i find that especially refreshing. Nice reach with holding her accountable for her almost grown child as well... when i get on a soapbox and start fighting for american values, i'll rethink my assessment.


i wonder what the feelings would have been if the candidate had been democratic? hmmmm

[BDB]

Focus there prez, focus.

This is about the guy who's poster is over your bed being a liar....the guy you and fenix and others got behind, literally and physically, because he said something about someone you feared. honestly, i've never heard any rumors that this dude let out. all i knew was that he got the daughter pregnant. everything else was on policy.

You've established that you think Palin is a nut....partly based on his lies....what do you have to say for yourself now that he confessed to his deception? still don't know what he's actually said that changes my opinion of palin. she's not very smart. her family isn't run on traditional american values. she was the governor of a state with less people than houston and quit half way through.

Yet another time you were fooled and I was right all along......the train is leaving the station...there is still time for you to get on it.....;)still not understanding what lies this guy told that made me not think palin is a great leader.

was it him that said that she said the line about seeing russia from her backyard?

[TulsaHale74]

was it him that said that she said the line about seeing russia from her backyard?
Tina Fey.

[dragonsdaddy]

i wonder what the feelings would have been if the candidate had been democratic? hmmmm

there's a greater than zero chance the choice would have been made to abort. i'm just sayin.

[BDB]

there's a greater than zero chance the choice would have been made to abort. i'm just sayin.

possibly. but he's a dirty liberal, so there wouldn't have been a backlash ;)

[JagFan]

possibly. but he's a dirty liberal, so there wouldn't have been a backlash ;)

No Democrats get a pass on this stuff even though they too campaign on morals. ;)

Look kids mess up and make mistakes. How the Palin's daughter's teenage pregnancy was handled by everyone was just sad to me. From her parents to the McCain campaign staff to the media. To me it does not matter what party affiliation they are. Children of politicians should stay off limits by the media and the parents should not put them out front and center.

The victim in all of this is the baby that had no voice. I am glad she kept the baby and is raising it herself. I hope for the babies sake they don't talk to the media anymore. I doubt that will happen but I can still hope.

The only victim in all of this was the baby.

[slcdragonfan]

there's a greater than zero chance the choice would have been made to abort. i'm just sayin.

DD, I think that is a bit too far. Do you think Republican teenagers don't abort? or don't have sex?

Do you think there are some Democrat teenagers that wouldn't abort? Because I have two adopted children, and neither of the birth mothers would fall into a "republican" definition. :rolleyes:

Sometimes this crap just goes too far.

[slcdragonfan]

no democrats get a pass on this stuff even they too campaign on morals. ;)

look kids mess up and make mistakes. How the palin's daughter's teenage pregnancy was handled by everyone was just sad to me. From her parents to the mccain campaign staff to the media. to me it does not matter what party affiliation they are. Children of politicians should stay off limits by the media and the parents should not put them out front and center.

The victim in all of this is the baby that had no voice. I am glad she kept the baby and is raising it herself. I hope for the babies sake they don't talk to the media anymore. I doubt that will happen but i can still hope.

the only victim in all of this was the baby.

that.

[BDB]

No Democrats get a pass on this stuff even though they too campaign on morals. ;)

Look kids mess up and make mistakes. How the Palin's daughter's teenage pregnancy was handled by everyone was just sad to me. From her parents to the McCain campaign staff to the media. To me it does not matter what party affiliation they are. Children of politicians should stay off limits by the media and the parents should not put them out front and center.

The victim in all of this is the baby that had no voice. I am glad she kept the baby and is raising it herself. I hope for the babies sake they don't talk to the media anymore. I doubt that will happen but I can still hope.

The only victim in all of this was the baby.


i mostly agree.

[TulsaHale74]

DD, I think that is a bit too far. Do you think Republican teenagers don't abort? or don't have sex?

Do you think there are some Democrat teenagers that wouldn't abort? Because I have two adopted children, and neither of the birth mothers would fall into a "republican" definition. :rolleyes:

Sometimes this crap just goes too far.
dd's remark was accurate. There's a greater than zero chance of an abortion decision by most of USA resident pregnant women, regardless of their political views.

However I believe that Democrats are more likely to choose abortion than Republicans. That opinion is formed from reports by the primarily Democratic MSM.

I don't see what was going too far. He didn't say that all pregnant teenage children of Democrats have an abortion.

[JagFan]

dd, i think that is a bit too far. Do you think republican teenagers don't abort? Or don't have sex?

Do you think there are some democrat teenagers that wouldn't abort? Because i have two adopted children, and neither of the birth mothers would fall into a "republican" definition. :rolleyes:

sometimes this crap just goes too far.

nm

[slcdragonfan]

you know what?

never mind. It doesn't really matter does it.

We can always find a way to 'slant' things so our side wherever it is, is the 'right' side.

Go on ahead, talk about kids too.

[dragonsdaddy]

DD, I think that is a bit too far. Do you think Republican teenagers don't abort? or don't have sex?

Do you think there are some Democrat teenagers that wouldn't abort? Because I have two adopted children, and neither of the birth mothers would fall into a "republican" definition. :rolleyes:

Sometimes this crap just goes too far.the party of choice is????? obviously there are individuals who don't meet the standards set by the party. prez was asking about a party rep, thus the reference.

[slcdragonfan]

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/ss/ss5713.pdf

It might be interesting to go through the 2005 data. Far as I know, there is no question asked of the abortee as to whether they are Demo or Repub.

[JagFan]

you know what?

never mind. It doesn't really matter does it.

We can always find a way to 'slant' things so our side wherever it is, is the 'right' side.

Go on ahead, talk about kids too.

That is why I changed my original post. It doesn't matter. you call out DD for a slight in your opinion but you don't call out your friends when they call people names. You are as bad as what you accuse others of.

Yes this crap has gone way to far. :)

[slcdragonfan]

That is why I changed my original post. It doesn't matter. you call out DD for a slight in your opinion but you don't call out your friends when they call people names. You are as bad as what you accuse others of.

Yes this crap has gone way to far. :)

You don't know what I do with instant messaging. I do believe I could say the same about you as well however. :)

DD can slight whomever he wants, I just thought maybe pulling kids into it was over the top (which we actually agreed to earlier).

This was about kids for me. I felt that implying a lesser behavior on a set of kids because their parents might be Democrats was wrong. I know plenty of old-line yellow-dog Democrats who are church-goers and would be appalled at an abortion.

But hey, I'm just a hypocrite like everybody else.

[JagFan]

You don't know what I do with instant messaging.

DD can slight whomever he wants, I just thought maybe pulling kids into it was over the top (which we actually agreed to earlier).

I don't have to publicize everything I do, and I don't have to defend not stepping in publicly. I have defended folks in the past. If I am charged with policing everything and apologizing for everything one side gets or does wrong, then you are charged with the other side as well, ok? I don't see you defending Coug too much, or Evol when they get called every name in the book. I don't see you saying calling someone a Nazi, a Marxist, an idiot, etc is wrong. Have you chastised GO or mojo or Hum lately? Where was your defense of me when Hum was calling me out?

This was about kids for me. I felt that implying a lesser behavior on a set of kids because their parents might be Democrats was wrong. I know plenty of old-line yellow-dog Democrats who are church-goers and would be appalled at an abortion.

But hey, I'm just a hypocrite like everybody else.


In case you haven't noticed I haven't participated in the threads that get ugly or really any political thread in awhile. Yes I might make a post or two but have not been deeply involved. I have asked for the name calling to stop. It has been awhile but I have. When did Hum call you out? Was I involved in that thread because I honestly don't remember it. Please note a large majority of my posts in the last few months have been in the word association thread.

When two people are involved in an argument then that is one thing. To call someone out and call names when they are not in a discussion with them is wrong. Please show where people have called you directly a name when it is not a quote to you.

Yes I get emotional when it comes to kids as well. but I'm sorry the Dems cannot brush it under the rug they are for abortions and are for partial birth abortions. They push it and it is part of their platform.

you are right I don't know what you do in IM and you don't know what I do either.

[slcdragonfan]

In case you haven't noticed I haven't participated in the threads that get ugly or really any political thread in awhile. Yes I might make a post or two but have not been deeply involved. I have asked for the name calling to stop. It has been awhile but I have. When did Hum call you out? Was I involved in that thread because I honestly don't remember it. Please note a large majority of my posts in the last few months have been in the word association thread.

When two people are involved in an argument then that is one thing. To call someone out and call names when they are not in a discussion with them is wrong. Please show where people have called you directly a name when it is not a quote to you.

Yes I get emotional when it comes to kids as well. but I'm sorry the Dems cannot brush it under the rug they are for abortions and are for partial birth abortions. They push it and it is part of their platform.

you are right I don't know what you do in IM and you don't know what I do either.

Jagfan, I thought better of my post and tried to correct but it appears you got it right after I posted but before I changed it.

I probably need to leave the yard for a while. I apologize for the tone of the post.

I understand the platforms of the parties, and vehemently oppose partial birth abortion and do not like regular abortion. But this is a plank of their party.... we are able to agree and disagree with various aspects of the platforms presented.

That's it. Ima outa here for a while.

[JagFan]

Jagfan, I thought better of my post and tried to correct but it appears you got it right after I posted but before I changed it.

I probably need to leave the yard for a while. I apologize for the tone of the post.

I understand the platforms of the parties, and vehemently oppose partial birth abortion and do not like regular abortion. But this is a plank of their party.... we are able to agree and disagree with various aspects of the platforms presented.

That's it. Ima outa here for a while.

I know where you are coming from and that is why only 73 of my last 500 posts have been in anything political. I do not like the name calling and I really don't like arguing. I do try to respect other peoples opinions even when I don't agree with them. That is why I changed mine to NM to start with.

I have nothing against you at all and I am sorry if you took it that way. Sensitive subjects- I know I should just stay away from. :)

[slorch]

i wonder what the feelings would have been if the candidate had been democratic? hmmmm

what party do I belong to?

what values have I shared on this board for years?

your answer is in those two questions.

[Eagles]

99.9% of all people are ignorant and that includes you and myself in that group.

the only particular is: who is more who is less :D

[GoOwls]

was it him that said that she said the line about seeing russia from her backyard?

Was it Obama who said he had experience, could build coalitions, and bring change to how Washington operates?

[GoOwls]

you know what?

never mind. It doesn't really matter does it.

We can always find a way to 'slant' things so our side wherever it is, is the 'right' side.

Go on ahead, talk about kids too.

I don't remember you getting bent out of shape and throwing your kids in the conversation when the poor girl was catching hell from all sides per the media and the liberal special interests.

Hold that hypocrisy for a more appropriate time.

See, it's difficult to claim to be centrist or independent when you only speak out for one side....just saying.

[slcdragonfan]

I don't remember you getting bent out of shape and throwing your kids in the conversation when the poor girl was catching hell from all sides per the media and the liberal special interests.

Hold that hypocrisy for a more appropriate time.

See, it's difficult to claim to be centrist or independent when you only speak out for one side....just saying.

That because I probably wasn't in the yard then, but yes, talking about kids is just. plain. wrong. No hypocrisy here on that one. I am very clear and consistent.
I think the problem discussed is apolitical. And to politicize it is to deny the reality of what kids are about. A pregnant girl is just a pregnant girl, not a Republican or Democrat pregnant girl. Her choice with what to do is not Republican or Democrat as well, but a very personal painful one. And that is all I will say this week concerning it. Maybe longer, I like the quiet.

We are trying out a no politics week if you want to play along, it might be nice to have a break from all of this.

[RedRage00]

He speaks? I thought he was supposed to stand there and look purty? :)

[RedRage00]

Back on topic:

I don't care that she had a kid as a teenager. Kids make mistakes and hopefully they learn from those mistakes. I just find it funny when you're running for a party based on "morals" and "holier than thou" attitude. That's the real reason people find it funny.

Let's be honest here. Bristol is not struggling as a single parent so I'm not gonna sit here and feel sorry for her. She is still a privileged girl from a privileged background. She will not struggle. How many teenage single mothers do you see on the cover of magazines with their baby? Yeah, she's eating up the publicity too so she's open game now. I don't remember the magazine, but I know I saw it at the checkout line at the grocery store.

There's a double standard too. A poor teenage girl from south oak cliff who gets knocked up is trash, but when its a priveleged girl from a privileged background "We all need to stick together and work through this. We're strong. We'll get through it as a family. We all make mistakes" :rolleyes:

[cougmantx]

Back on topic:

I don't care that she had a kid as a teenager. Kids make mistakes and hopefully they learn from those mistakes. I just find it funny when you're running for a party based on "morals" and "holier than thou" attitude. That's the real reason people find it funny.

Let's be honest here. Bristol is not struggling as a single parent so I'm not gonna sit here and feel sorry for her. She is still a privileged girl from a privileged background. She will not struggle. How many teenage single mothers do you see on the cover of magazines with their baby? Yeah, she's eating up the publicity too so she's open game now. I don't remember the magazine, but I know I saw it at the checkout line at the grocery store.

There's a double standard too. A poor teenage girl from south oak cliff who gets knocked up is trash, but when its a priveleged girl from a privileged background "We all need to stick together and work through this. We're strong. We'll get through it as a family. We all make mistakes" :rolleyes:

word...:D

[JagFan]

No kids are kids and while some of you take great joy in a teenage girl being bashed I don't. These are kids and it kills me to see any child regardless of economic conditions hurt.

Now shut the hell up about kids. I woke to find out about this this morning. Think really hard about what some of these kids are facing today. Instead of passing judgment and joking about them get off your @sses and reach out. Regardless of religion or politics.


“NOT A DAY PROMISED,” Carson Brooks.October 23, 1991 – July 12, 2010

Dear friends of Carson Chandler Brooks. Carson passed away and returned to his true home this morning. His passing brings great sadness. He was so very young, brilliant, funny, sneaky, sometimes the playful liar, a caregiver – all wrapped up in one spectacular package. So many tears, so much pain, so much conflict ion.

Not for those of us left behind, but actually Carson’s struggle for many of these last years…full of life-yes, vision-yes, desire-yes, and creativity-yes…but bipolar…with great burden.

From many of you, Carson hid his struggles well, always the smile, the laugh, the jokes, always there to lift YOU up – the independence, oh my gosh, the independence…but, for a few of you, who knew him the closest, Carson never knew what the day would bring for him, as his bipolar condition stalked almost every waking moment. What strength, endurance and stamina he had to maintain for these many years. It was just too much.

Carson took his own life this morning.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=139999909359340#!/group.php?gid=139999909359340


I also am helping put together a class for teenage girls who are pregnant and moms. We do not care what their economic conditions are or what party their parents belong to or what their religious beliefs are. Just a safe place to talk and learn and get help if needed.

You guys have gone to far on this. Kids are kids and they are all off limits.

[slcdragonfan]

No kids are kids and while some of you take great joy in a teenage girl being bashed I don't. These are kids and it kills me to see any child regardless of economic conditions hurt.

Now shut the hell up about kids. I woke to find out about this this morning. Think really hard about what some of these kids are facing today. Instead of passing judgment and joking about them get off your @sses and reach out. Regardless of religion or politics.


“NOT A DAY PROMISED,” Carson Brooks.October 23, 1991 – July 12, 2010

Dear friends of Carson Chandler Brooks. Carson passed away and returned to his true home this morning. His passing brings great sadness. He was so very young, brilliant, funny, sneaky, sometimes the playful liar, a caregiver – all wrapped up in one spectacular package. So many tears, so much pain, so much conflict ion.

Not for those of us left behind, but actually Carson’s struggle for many of these last years…full of life-yes, vision-yes, desire-yes, and creativity-yes…but bipolar…with great burden.

From many of you, Carson hid his struggles well, always the smile, the laugh, the jokes, always there to lift YOU up – the independence, oh my gosh, the independence…but, for a few of you, who knew him the closest, Carson never knew what the day would bring for him, as his bipolar condition stalked almost every waking moment. What strength, endurance and stamina he had to maintain for these many years. It was just too much.

Carson took his own life this morning.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=139999909359340#!/group.php?gid=139999909359340


I also am helping put together a class for teenage girls who are pregnant and moms. We do not care what their economic conditions are or what party their parents belong to or what their religious beliefs are. Just a safe place to talk and learn and get help if needed.

You guys have gone to far on this. Kids are kids and they are all off limits.

yes. And kudo's to you for taking some action to help. I need to do something like that. We don't need to politicize kids in trouble. We just need to help them.

My prayers to Carson's family.

[JagFan]

yes. And kudo's to you for taking some action to help. I need to do something like that. We don't need to politicize kids in trouble. We just need to help them.

Yep- All of them. Our youth minister is starting the group and has asked for volunteers. I jumped at it. She is going to send ads to all the high schools and community papers. It is not a religious class just a support thing.

The very worst thing you can do to a kid is make them feel their struggles are funny or something to hold over their parents heads. They want so much to be independent and separate from their parents. I hurt every time I see a child struggle with anything. Most of all they just need to be told they are loved.

The young man that killed himself knew he was loved and struggled everyday with his mental health issues. He did fight it I guess in the end he could not anymore. This has sent shock waves throughout Lewisville and the Flowerplex.

[Firebird]

Back on topic:

I don't care that she had a kid as a teenager. Kids make mistakes and hopefully they learn from those mistakes. I just find it funny when you're running for a party based on "morals" and "holier than thou" attitude. That's the real reason people find it funny.

Let's be honest here. Bristol is not struggling as a single parent so I'm not gonna sit here and feel sorry for her. She is still a privileged girl from a privileged background. She will not struggle. How many teenage single mothers do you see on the cover of magazines with their baby? Yeah, she's eating up the publicity too so she's open game now. I don't remember the magazine, but I know I saw it at the checkout line at the grocery store.

She's also getting compensated pretty well to star as a teenage mother on The Secret Life of the American Teenager. I am not sure what the message here is....."get pregnant and you too can be a movie star?"

There's a double standard too. A poor teenage girl from south oak cliff who gets knocked up is trash, but when its a priveleged girl from a privileged background "We all need to stick together and work through this. We're strong. We'll get through it as a family. We all make mistakes" :rolleyes:

Agree totally on the double standard.



Red

[GoOwls]

That because I probably wasn't in the yard then, but yes, talking about kids is just. plain. wrong. No hypocrisy here on that one. I am very clear and consistent.
I think the problem discussed is apolitical. And to politicize it is to deny the reality of what kids are about. A pregnant girl is just a pregnant girl, not a Republican or Democrat pregnant girl. Her choice with what to do is not Republican or Democrat as well, but a very personal painful one. And that is all I will say this week concerning it. Maybe longer, I like the quiet.

We are trying out a no politics week if you want to play along, it might be nice to have a break from all of this.

I agree, but the left politicised it when they attacked the daughter of the lady who worried them at the time.....that is just a fact.

I don't understand why the left get passes all the time in the media and the right gets demonized for like actions if the media is supposed to be so non-partisan...it's a load of crap-ola if you ask me.

If you weren't in the Yard then, you get a free pass with me because you are consistant.

[mad_fan]

Red

Go figure...:rolleyes::D

[cobhimself]

No kids are kids and while some of you take great joy in a teenage girl being bashed I don't. These are kids and it kills me to see any child regardless of economic conditions hurt.

Now shut the hell up about kids. I woke to find out about this this morning. Think really hard about what some of these kids are facing today. Instead of passing judgment and joking about them get off your @sses and reach out. Regardless of religion or politics.


“NOT A DAY PROMISED,” Carson Brooks.October 23, 1991 – July 12, 2010

Dear friends of Carson Chandler Brooks. Carson passed away and returned to his true home this morning. His passing brings great sadness. He was so very young, brilliant, funny, sneaky, sometimes the playful liar, a caregiver – all wrapped up in one spectacular package. So many tears, so much pain, so much conflict ion.

Not for those of us left behind, but actually Carson’s struggle for many of these last years…full of life-yes, vision-yes, desire-yes, and creativity-yes…but bipolar…with great burden.

From many of you, Carson hid his struggles well, always the smile, the laugh, the jokes, always there to lift YOU up – the independence, oh my gosh, the independence…but, for a few of you, who knew him the closest, Carson never knew what the day would bring for him, as his bipolar condition stalked almost every waking moment. What strength, endurance and stamina he had to maintain for these many years. It was just too much.

Carson took his own life this morning.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=139999909359340#!/group.php?gid=139999909359340


I also am helping put together a class for teenage girls who are pregnant and moms. We do not care what their economic conditions are or what party their parents belong to or what their religious beliefs are. Just a safe place to talk and learn and get help if needed.

You guys have gone to far on this. Kids are kids and they are all off limits.

JagFan,

My name is Collin and I'm Carson's older brother. It's almost been 3 weeks since Carson took his life. I've been waiting for my registration on this forum to be approved in order to thank you for your words about reaching out to others. Kudos to you, as well, for spending the time to put together a class for teenage girls who are pregnant as well as their moms. I pray the Lord will bless that endeavor.

You would be astounded to know of the number of people who had no idea Carson was struggling the way he was. Regardless of Carson's struggles, he always tried to bring a smile to everyone's face. He was so passionate about Christ and telling others about His love that, many times, he would ignore the depression and anxiety he was struggling with in order to put others first.

After graduation in May, Carson got a tattoo across his back that said "Not A Day Promised". Carson never wasted a day... even when he was down, anxious and depressed, there was always something he wanted to do. He knew the Lord was the one who gave him the day and he didn't want to waste it!

In Carson's memory, my family has started a website at www.notadaypromised.com. It currently links to a website that gives information about Bipolar as well as Carson's memorial page on Facebook and a donation button where money can be donated in memory of him (if anyone feels led to donate, you can use "Carson Chandler Brooks" as the "in honor of" value in the form).

Like you, I would like to ask everyone to stop and think about how what we say and do impacts others. Not just that, I encourage everyone to take the time to shower everyone you know with kindness and let them know you appreciate them; you never know when it will be too late to do so again. After all, there's not a day promised.

Thanks again JagFan,
Collin

[farmerfan]

JagFan,

My name is Collin and I'm Carson's older brother. It's almost been 3 weeks since Carson took his life. I've been waiting for my registration on this forum to be approved in order to thank you for your words about reaching out to others. Kudos to you, as well, for spending the time to put together a class for teenage girls who are pregnant as well as their moms. I pray the Lord will bless that endeavor.

You would be astounded to know of the number of people who had no idea Carson was struggling the way he was. Regardless of Carson's struggles, he always tried to bring a smile to everyone's face. He was so passionate about Christ and telling others about His love that, many times, he would ignore the depression and anxiety he was struggling with in order to put others first.

After graduation in May, Carson got a tattoo across his back that said "Not A Day Promised". Carson never wasted a day... even when he was down, anxious and depressed, there was always something he wanted to do. He knew the Lord was the one who gave him the day and he didn't want to waste it!

In Carson's memory, my family has started a website at www.notadaypromised.com. It currently links to a website that gives information about Bipolar as well as Carson's memorial page on Facebook and a donation button where money can be donated in memory of him (if anyone feels led to donate, you can use "Carson Chandler Brooks" as the "in honor of" value in the form).

Like you, I would like to ask everyone to stop and think about how what we say and do impacts others. Not just that, I encourage everyone to take the time to shower everyone you know with kindness and let them know you appreciate them; you never know when it will be too late to do so again. After all, there's not a day promised.

Thanks again JagFan,
Collin

Collin,

Thanks for the post and our prayers are still with your family and thanks for sharing with us what you did. You are a courageous man for sharing that with us and I can only imagine what you and your family have gone through.

[JagFan]

JagFan,

My name is Collin and I'm Carson's older brother. It's almost been 3 weeks since Carson took his life. I've been waiting for my registration on this forum to be approved in order to thank you for your words about reaching out to others. Kudos to you, as well, for spending the time to put together a class for teenage girls who are pregnant as well as their moms. I pray the Lord will bless that endeavor.

You would be astounded to know of the number of people who had no idea Carson was struggling the way he was. Regardless of Carson's struggles, he always tried to bring a smile to everyone's face. He was so passionate about Christ and telling others about His love that, many times, he would ignore the depression and anxiety he was struggling with in order to put others first.

After graduation in May, Carson got a tattoo across his back that said "Not A Day Promised". Carson never wasted a day... even when he was down, anxious and depressed, there was always something he wanted to do. He knew the Lord was the one who gave him the day and he didn't want to waste it!

In Carson's memory, my family has started a website at www.notadaypromised.com. It currently links to a website that gives information about Bipolar as well as Carson's memorial page on Facebook and a donation button where money can be donated in memory of him (if anyone feels led to donate, you can use "Carson Chandler Brooks" as the "in honor of" value in the form).

Like you, I would like to ask everyone to stop and think about how what we say and do impacts others. Not just that, I encourage everyone to take the time to shower everyone you know with kindness and let them know you appreciate them; you never know when it will be too late to do so again. After all, there's not a day promised.

Thanks again JagFan,
Collin

Collin,

Your family and all of Carson's friends have been in our prayers daily. You words touched me and also gave me encouragement to continue to work with the youth. When we joined our church we were challenged to find a spot to plug in. We found the youth. And I can honestly say they have taught me so much more than I have taught them. All they want is to be told they are loved and are worthy no matter what. I try to do that.

You are so right about treating people with respect and telling people how much they mean to you. I have told more people in the last three weeks I love them than this past year combined. I knew several people that knew Carson and the first thing they talk about is his smile. He was and is good. We can learn from his tattoo.

I cannot imagine what your family has gone through but know your faith will carry you forward. Lean on him and you shall get through it.

I am excited about our class and hope we can help these young people know they count.

Thank you for lifting me up when i should be lifting you. You are special. I will look at the web page and FB.

God Bless you
JagFan

[slcdragonfan]

JagFan,

My name is Collin and I'm Carson's older brother. It's almost been 3 weeks since Carson took his life. I've been waiting for my registration on this forum to be approved in order to thank you for your words about reaching out to others. Kudos to you, as well, for spending the time to put together a class for teenage girls who are pregnant as well as their moms. I pray the Lord will bless that endeavor.

You would be astounded to know of the number of people who had no idea Carson was struggling the way he was. Regardless of Carson's struggles, he always tried to bring a smile to everyone's face. He was so passionate about Christ and telling others about His love that, many times, he would ignore the depression and anxiety he was struggling with in order to put others first.

After graduation in May, Carson got a tattoo across his back that said "Not A Day Promised". Carson never wasted a day... even when he was down, anxious and depressed, there was always something he wanted to do. He knew the Lord was the one who gave him the day and he didn't want to waste it!

In Carson's memory, my family has started a website at www.notadaypromised.com. It currently links to a website that gives information about Bipolar as well as Carson's memorial page on Facebook and a donation button where money can be donated in memory of him (if anyone feels led to donate, you can use "Carson Chandler Brooks" as the "in honor of" value in the form).

Like you, I would like to ask everyone to stop and think about how what we say and do impacts others. Not just that, I encourage everyone to take the time to shower everyone you know with kindness and let them know you appreciate them; you never know when it will be too late to do so again. After all, there's not a day promised.

Thanks again JagFan,
Collin

Collin, you have a wisdom that is hard to obtain without some pain being associated with it. My prayers for you and your family. Bipolar people can be the greatest people to be around, and then at other times so very difficult. All we can do is let them know we love them, and hope for the best. It is obvious you loved your brother very much, and he knew that I am sure.