More Obama Bashing or is this true?

[dragonpants]

IS THIS TRUE?????

Read this....

I did some of my own research after reading this. Why was his law license inactivated in 2002?

Why was Michelle's law license INACTIVATED by court order?

There is only one Barack Hussein Obama according to the U. S. Census and he has 27 Social Security numbers and over 80 aliases.

The one he uses now originated in Connecticut where he is not ever reported to have lived. No wonder ALL of his 'records' are sealed!!!

Was He There?

Who IS He?

I have always wondered why NO ONE ever came forward from Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc.

NO ONE, not one person has ever come forward from his past.

VERY, VERY STRANGE.

Stephanopoulos of ABC news said the same thing during the 08' campaign. He too was a classmate of BO's at Columbia class of 1984. He said he never had ONE class with him.

Was he there?

While he is such a great orator, why doesn't ANYONE in Obama's college class remember him?

Maybe he never attended class!

Maybe he never attended Columbia ?

He won't allow Colombia to release his records either.

Suspicious isn't it???

NOBODY REMEMBERS OBAMA AT COLUMBIA !!!!!!!

Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there, but none remembered him.

Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983.

In 2008, Root says of Obama, "I don't know a SINGLE PERSON at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me.

I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia . EVER! Nobody recalls him.

I'm not exaggerating, I'm not kidding.

"Root adds that he was also, like Obama, "Class of '83 political science, pre-law" and says, "You don't get more exact or closer than that.

Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him.

At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack!

And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, the macha who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him.

Is that not strange? It's VERY strange. "Obama's photograph does NOT appear in the school's 'yearbook' and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia, provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Allyn_Root#column-one

NOTE: Root graduated as Valedictorian from his high school, Thornton-Donovan School , then graduated from Columbia University in 1983 as a Political Science major (in the same class as Barack Hussein Obama WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN IN).

[rwilleby]

Hmmmm...

[drgnbkr]

Sadly, we now know what and who he is. The curtain has been pulled back and there is this inexperienced boob twisting and tweaking the knobs with a puzzled look on his face.

[Maroondog]

Sadly, we now know what and who he is. The curtain has been pulled back and there is this inexperienced boob twisting and tweaking the knobs with a puzzled look on his face.

Pay no attention to that man........

[drgnbkr]

Great article from Peggy Noonan today..

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704269204575270950789108846.html?m od=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion

[the_phoenix612]

http://www.deviantart.com/download/37999485/Soda_Can_Chain_Mail_by_RetardedRaven.jpg

[drgnbkr]

http://www.deviantart.com/download/37999485/Soda_Can_Chain_Mail_by_RetardedRaven.jpg

Taken with Phoenix's phone camera...you should see phoenix's outfit!

[rwilleby]

HA! What a "chick magnet"... Does anyone know how many cans of soda he had to drink to make that?

[dragonpants]

I must also qualify my thread start. That was from an article so the part in the beginning about doing research, that was not done by me.

[the_phoenix612]

I must also qualify my thread start. That was from an article so the part in the beginning about doing research, that was not done by me.
or anybody.

[dragonpants]

or anybody.

I am sure that is easier for you. Stephanopolis was supposed to be in the same class at Columbia and he is huge favorite of the libs.

[15Adragon]

hmmmm.....

If none of this is true, then it should be real easy to provide pictures, transcripts, etc...

Does the truth about anything matter anymore? Due facts matter? Does the left hand side of the balance sheet need to = the right hand side? Are the politicians who serve our country really serving our country?

Is Ed "too tall" Jones too tall? I had to throw that in for a :D.

[15Adragon]

Great article from Peggy Noonan today..

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704269204575270950789108846.html?m od=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion

yep.

[the_phoenix612]

I am sure that is easier for you. Stephanopolis was supposed to be in the same class at Columbia and he is huge favorite of the libs.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/lawlicenses.asp
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbia.asp

You're either simply ignorant of the facts, willingly attempting to deceive people, or just plain stupid. These "controversies" are on the order of the NWO rumors spread about Bush, or the reptilian "conspiracy"...

[E-Vol-ution]

I must also qualify my thread start. That was from an article so the part in the beginning about doing research, that was not done by me.

Nevermind..........lol

[the_phoenix612]

hmmmm.....

If none of this is true, then it should be real easy to provide pictures, transcripts, etc...

Does the truth about anything matter anymore? Due facts matter? Does the left hand side of the balance sheet need to = the right hand side? Are the politicians who serve our country really serving our country?

Is Ed "too tall" Jones too tall? I had to throw that in for a :D.
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM116_obamaessay.html

[HUM398]

Sadly, we now know what and who he is. The curtain has been pulled back and there is this inexperienced boob twisting and tweaking the knobs with a puzzled look on his face.

Who's twisting boobs? That's not very nice

[rwilleby]

I thought Snopes was already proved to be an unreliable liberal source...

[the_phoenix612]

I thought Snopes was already proved to be an unreliable liberal source...
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/internet/a/snopes_exposed.htm ;)

[E-Vol-ution]

Sadly, we now know what and who he is. The curtain has been pulled back and there is this inexperienced boob twisting and tweaking the knobs with a puzzled look on his face.

You could always try Siberia......(I've got $5 on it):)

[rwilleby]

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/internet/a/snopes_exposed.htm ;)

See, that backed it up...

[dragonpants]

Nevermind..........lol

You can say it. I will not offended. I am not saying it is true or not, I am just trying to open up a debate.

[BDB]

http://mirror.servut.us/kuvat/motivation/copypasta.jpg

[E-Vol-ution]

You can say it. I will not offended. I am not saying it is true or not, I am just trying to open up a debate.

I wasn't going to say anything offensive.......I posted the confirmation of his attending and graduating from Columbia but Phoenix beat me to it.
I just went back and deleted it and had to say something.

[the_phoenix612]

You can say it. I will not offended. I am not saying it is true or not, I am just trying to open up a debate.
Did Glenn Beck **** and murder a girl in 1990? I'm not saying he did, but I think he should come forward and conclusively prove he didn't. After all, he should easily be able to produce evidence and alibis from 20 years ago. Now, I"m not saying it is true or not, I am just trying to open up a debate.

[HUM398]

Did Glenn Beck **** and murder a girl in 1990? I'm not saying he did, but I think he should come forward and conclusively prove he didn't. After all, he should easily be able to produce evidence and alibis from 20 years ago. Now, I"m not saying it is true or not, I am just trying to open up a debate.

While i get your point, your example is poor.

Although i agree with you.

[dragonpants]

did glenn beck **** and murder a girl in 1990? I'm not saying he did, but i think he should come forward and conclusively prove he didn't. After all, he should easily be able to produce evidence and alibis from 20 years ago. Now, i"m not saying it is true or not, i am just trying to open up a debate.

nm

[ktCarl]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/lawlicenses.asp
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbia.asp

You're either simply ignorant of the facts, willingly attempting to deceive people, or just plain stupid. These "controversies" are on the order of the NWO rumors spread about Bush, or the reptilian "conspiracy"...

You mean the reptilian conspiracy isn't true? But I watched V on Tuesday nights and it looks real to me.

[TulsaHale74]

Did Glenn Beck **** and murder a girl in 1990? I'm not saying he did, but I think he should come forward and conclusively prove he didn't. After all, he should easily be able to produce evidence and alibis from 20 years ago. Now, I"m not saying it is true or not, I am just trying to open up a debate.
Couldn't resist the trolling?

So how does that fishing tackle taste anyway?

[the_phoenix612]

While i get your point, your example is poor.

Although i agree with you.
my example is a long running joke, with a rich internet history.

[BDB]

my example is a long running joke, with a rich internet history.

/b/ut it's not a joke.

[Hybrid]

So, in terms of availability, I recommend crystallized methamphetamine. For results however, I find the spectrum leans more toward cocaine. Its entirely up to you though.

[ktCarl]

The unpaid job offer to Joe Sestak is a bigger story.

[the_phoenix612]

The unpaid job offer to Joe Sestak is a bigger story.
Impeach Clinton!

Again!

[ktCarl]

Impeach Clinton!

Again!

Not enough info on this story to make any rash conclusions ( I understand the sarcasm) but it is newsworthy. I certainly don't know enough about it yet.

[JagFan]

Not enough info on this story to make any rash conclusions ( I understand the sarcasm) but it is newsworthy. I certainly don't know enough about it yet.

A democrat came out and said the WH offered him a job if he did not enter the senate race. He said no. People started asking questions and now it was no big deal and it was Clinton that offered a non paying job. Hope they are right. You would think all the politicians would have learned long ago that the cover up is always worse than the crime.

[ktCarl]

A democrat came out and said the WH offered him a job if he did not enter the senate race. He said no. People started asking questions and now it was no big deal and it was Clinton that offered a non paying job. Hope they are right. You would think all the politicians would have learned long ago that the cover up is always worse than the crime.


Richard Nixon

Bill Clinton

[JMSFan]

Not enough info on this story to make any rash conclusions ( I understand the sarcasm) but it is newsworthy. I certainly don't know enough about it yet.

It does make me wonder why it took the White House so long to make an official statement, especially if they didnt do anything wrong. And besides that, why did it take Obama going through 2 others to mention anything to Sestak about an appointed position? That is, if everything was appropriate and legal.

[JMSFan]

A democrat came out and said the WH offered him a job if he did not enter the senate race. He said no. People started asking questions and now it was no big deal and it was Clinton that offered a non paying job. Hope they are right. You would think all the politicians would have learned long ago that the cover up is always worse than the crime.

I heard it was Congressman Anthony Weiner. But someone at work told me that, and Im looking now but cant find no news source saying that.

Crap... nevermind....

[JagFan]

Richard Nixon

Bill Clinton

Yep.

[JagFan]

I heard it was Congressman Anthony Weiner.

I thought Sestak said it to a reporter awhile back and it is just now heating up when the WH refused to answer the questions.

[JMSFan]

I thought Sestak said it to a reporter awhile back and it is just now heating up when the WH refused to answer the questions.

Yea, thats correct. I edited my last post while I was looking at some news sources. Anthony Weiner is one of the Dems who called the white house the other day asking them to detail the conversations it allegedly had with Sestak

[JagFan]

Yea, thats correct. I edited my last post while I was looking at some news sources. Anthony Weiner is one of the Dems who called the white house the other day asking them to detail the conversations it allegedly had with Sestak

So it has been the domocrats pushing this forward? Hmmmm

[JMSFan]

So it has been the domocrats pushing this forward? Hmmmm

Well, he's the only one of the Dems Ive seen mentioned so far. The most of the heat is coming from Rep. Darrell Issa.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/99413-dem-lawmaker-urges-white-house-to-release-details-on-sestak-job-offer

Again... I edit....
Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin is another one mentioned.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/99731-durbin-wants-answers-from-sestak

[JagFan]

Well, he's the only one of the Dems Ive seen mentioned so far. The most of the heat is coming from Rep. Darrell Issa.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/99413-dem-lawmaker-urges-white-house-to-release-details-on-sestak-job-offer

That is to be expected.

I really hope this is nothing. I don't think we as a nation need another scandal right now.

[JMSFan]

That is to be expected.

I really hope this is nothing. I don't think we as a nation need another scandal right now.

You're right, we really dont.

[the_phoenix612]

Y'all do know Reagan did this too, right?

http://images2.dailykos.com/images/user/30549/bribe.jpg

[mojotrain]

Clinton DID NOT OFFER HIM a job as secretary of the Navy. He offered him his secretary, who said she wished she was in the Navy.

[ktCarl]

Y'all do know Reagan did this too, right?

http://images2.dailykos.com/images/user/30549/bribe.jpg

I vaguely recall that. Maybe the difference between then and now is that Hyawatha:D didn't accept the job? So no scandal?

[the_phoenix612]

I vaguely recall that. Maybe the difference between then and now is that Hyawatha:D didn't accept the job? So no scandal?
there's no difference. That's exactly what happened here.

[JagFan]

there's no difference. That's exactly what happened here.

You are right there is no difference except Obama ran on changing Washington and how things are done. He was going to be more transperant and not do these kind of things. And I have never held that two wrongs make it right. My boys do not get away with the well so and so did it excuse. Pretty immature IMO.

you are trying to sart something out of nothing. I and others have said we really hope this does not turn into a scandal. We as a nation have far more important things to worry about. So for Obama sake I hope they are correct in their story because as others have learned trying to cover it up will drag it out and make it worse.

[DrEdward]

You are right there is no difference except Obama ran on changing Washington and how things are done. He was going to be more transperant and not do these kind of things. And I have never held that two wrongs make it right. My boys do not get away with the well so and so did it excuse. Pretty immature IMO.

you are trying to sart something out of nothing. I and others have said we really hope this does not turn into a scandal. We as a nation have far more important things to worry about. So for Obama sake I hope they are correct in their story because as others have learned trying to cover it up will drag it out and make it worse.

My concern is that there is, in fact, more to the story. If there had been an issue or violation of the US Code, it was on the part of the White House. It sounded to me as if Sestak was in the clear on this. But suddenly, yesterday he changed his story a bit. It went from "I received a job offer for a position by the current Administration in an effort to get me out of the PA Democratic primary" to "I cut Clinton off immediately." Something else is going on here. So if the current version of what transpired according to the administration is correct, Sestak the candidate was trying to make much more out of what happened to him than was otherwise the case, which cannot be all that good for him. But in any event, it does appear that such an offer was made by the administration, by its own statement. Such is certainly a violation of the intent of the law if nothing else.

[Maroondog]

My concern is that there is, in fact, more to the story. If there had been an issue or violation of the US Code, it was on the part of the White House. It sounded to me as if Sestak was in the clear on this. But suddenly, yesterday he changed his story a bit. It went from "I received a job offer for a position by the current Administration in an effort to get me out of the PA Democratic primary" to "I cut Clinton off immediately." Something else is going on here. So if the current version of what transpired according to the administration is correct, Sestak the candidate was trying to make much more out of what happened to him than was otherwise the case, which cannot be all that good for him. But in any event, it does appear that such an offer was made by the administration, by its own statement. Such is certainly a violation of the intent of the law if nothing else.

Sounds like damage control kicking in to me.

[DrEdward]

Sounds like damage control kicking in to me.

At least the Administration is trying to coordinate this one among the parties. :(

[mojotrain]

It was obvious in the Sestak interview yesterday that obama had just taught this poor guy how to lie. Welcome Sestak, you belong.

[JagFan]

My concern is that there is, in fact, more to the story. If there had been an issue or violation of the US Code, it was on the part of the White House. It sounded to me as if Sestak was in the clear on this. But suddenly, yesterday he changed his story a bit. It went from "I received a job offer for a position by the current Administration in an effort to get me out of the PA Democratic primary" to "I cut Clinton off immediately." Something else is going on here. So if the current version of what transpired according to the administration is correct, Sestak the candidate was trying to make much more out of what happened to him than was otherwise the case, which cannot be all that good for him. But in any event, it does appear that such an offer was made by the administration, by its own statement. Such is certainly a violation of the intent of the law if nothing else.

I agree, it was very strange yesterday but I am trying to stay positive and hope that this does not go how it could and should if they are lying and covering up.

[the_phoenix612]

I wonder what the followup and investigation of this was in the 80s. Might be worth looking up..

[JMSFan]

I wonder what the followup and investigation of this was in the 80s. Might be worth looking up..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_limitations

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[Firebird]

My concern is that there is, in fact, more to the story. If there had been an issue or violation of the US Code, it was on the part of the White House. It sounded to me as if Sestak was in the clear on this. But suddenly, yesterday he changed his story a bit. It went from "I received a job offer for a position by the current Administration in an effort to get me out of the PA Democratic primary" to "I cut Clinton off immediately." Something else is going on here. So if the current version of what transpired according to the administration is correct, Sestak the candidate was trying to make much more out of what happened to him than was otherwise the case, which cannot be all that good for him. But in any event, it does appear that such an offer was made by the administration, by its own statement. Such is certainly a violation of the intent of the law if nothing else.


It appears that Sestak was offered an appointment to the PIAB (although he would have had to not be a sitting member of the House to join). That's not a paying job, thus there's not really a violation of the U.S. Code.

[15Adragon]

It appears that Sestak was offered an appointment to the PIAB (although he would have had to not be a sitting member of the House to join). That's not a paying job, thus there's not really a violation of the U.S. Code.

I don't think anyone outside of DC believes that story.

[DownSouth]

It's been awhile since I last visited The Yard, but the same ol' paranoia hasn't gone anywhere.

It's good to be back!

[15Adragon]

It was obvious in the Sestak interview yesterday that obama had just taught this poor guy how to lie. Welcome Sestak, you belong.

He looked lost. It is simple to tell the truth, the other stuff not so much. He was helping to "thread the needle" on the carefully worded and legally checked out storyline.

[DrEdward]

It appears that Sestak was offered an appointment to the PIAB (although he would have had to not be a sitting member of the House to join). That's not a paying job, thus there's not really a violation of the U.S. Code.

Don't think the law requires the position to be a paid one. Evidently, someone in the Administration thought the offer might be of sufficient value to induce the representative to give up a $174,000 + benefits a year position to accept. That implies to me that this was an offer perceived to be of some value, at least to those making the offer. As I understand it, one of the reasons that was stated for the offer was so that Sestak could remain a member of the House of Representatives. Yet as you accurately point out, that is not a possibility, so again that strikes me as something that just does not compute.

[15Adragon]

Don't think the law requires the position to be a paid one. Evidently, someone in the Administration thought the offer might be of sufficient value to induce the representative to give up a $174,000 + benefits a year position to accept. That implies to me that this was an offer perceived to be of some value., at least to those making the offer. As I understand it, one of the reasons that was stated for the offer was so that Sestak could remain a member of the House of Representatives, so again that strikes me as something that just does not compute.

So we are to believe that Rham representing the WH called ex-Pres Clinton to have him extend an offer of an "unpaid" position on an intelligence board to Sestak instead of Sestak pursuing the job of US Senator??? Clinton would have called BS on that offer. I also agree that offering anything of value (paid salary or not) is a violation.

Why did they wait until after O and Clinton meet for a private lunch to come clean? This is a bunch of legalese aimed at dancing around the facts. This is how they do politics in Chicago. Election law is irrelevant. Facts don't matter.

[Firebird]

Don't think the law requires the position to be a paid one. Evidently, someone in the Administration thought the offer might be of sufficient value to induce the representative to give up a $174,000 + benefits a year position to accept. That implies to me that this was an offer perceived to be of some value, at least to those making the offer. As I understand it, one of the reasons that was stated for the offer was so that Sestak could remain a member of the House of Representatives. Yet as you accurately point out, that is not a possibility, so again that strikes me as something that just does not compute.

That's all relative to perception. Some people might value a "well done, old chap" enough to take on a job like that. Without an ability to place a dollar value on it, it's going to be hard to convince anyone that it was "of value."

[Firebird]

Don't think the law requires the position to be a paid one. Evidently, someone in the Administration thought the offer might be of sufficient value to induce the representative to give up a $174,000 + benefits a year position to accept. That implies to me that this was an offer perceived to be of some value, at least to those making the offer. As I understand it, one of the reasons that was stated for the offer was so that Sestak could remain a member of the House of Representatives. Yet as you accurately point out, that is not a possibility, so again that strikes me as something that just does not compute.

I should also point out that the PIAB was created by Executive Order and is always managed by Executive Order and so there's no reason that Obama couldn't have changed the rules for membership. They've changed significantly since Ike created it.

[rwilleby]

Come on 15 & DrE... This is totally transparent... BOH told The Fish Man to fix the deal... Flipper called his list of SEIU goons and they found Uncle Bill... Uncle Bill made the offer but couldn't make the sale... The Mark flapped his lips bragging about the bribe he wouldnt take and... Well, here we are...

See, the most transparent, professional, experienced, ethical, well spoken, cleanest looking, world-loving administration ever...

[DrEdward]

That's all relative to perception. Some people might value a "well done, old chap" enough to take on a job like that. Without an ability to place a dollar value on it, it's going to be hard to convince anyone that it was "of value."

Certainly no one in the current Justice Department. :rolleyes::D

[15Adragon]

Come on 15 & DrE... This is totally transparent... BOH told The Fish Man to fix the deal... Flipper called his list of SEIU goons and they found Uncle Bill... Uncle Bill made the offer but couldn't make the sale... The Mark flapped his lips bragging about the bribe he wouldnt take and... Well, here we are...

See, the most transparent, professional, experienced, ethical, well spoken, cleanest looking, world-loving administration ever...

Such clarity. ;):cool:

[JMSFan]

That's all relative to perception. Some people might value a "well done, old chap" enough to take on a job like that. Without an ability to place a dollar value on it, it's going to be hard to convince anyone that it was "of value."

http://law.onecle.com/uscode/18/595.html

http://law.onecle.com/uscode/18/600.html

Doesnt have to have a dollar value on it. If they attempted to interfere in the election in any way, then it violates these codes, right?
From 18/600
" Whoever, directly or indirectly, promises any employment,
position, compensation, contract, appointment, or other benefit,
provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of
Congress, or any special consideration in obtaining any such
benefit, to any person as consideration, favor, or reward for any
political activity or for the support of or opposition to any
candidate or any political party in connection with any general or
special election to any political office, or in connection with any
primary election or political convention or caucus held to select
candidates for any political office, shall be fined under this
title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."

From 18/211
" Whoever solicits or receives, either as a political contribution,
or for personal emolument, any money or thing of value, in
consideration of the promise of support or use of influence in
obtaining for any person any appointive office or place under the
United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not
more than one year, or both.
Whoever solicits or receives any thing of value in consideration
of aiding a person to obtain employment under the United States
either by referring his name to an executive department or agency
of the United States or by requiring the payment of a fee because
such person has secured such employment shall be fined under this
title, or imprisoned not more than one year, or both. This section
shall not apply to such services rendered by an employment agency
pursuant to the written request of an executive department or
agency of the United States."

[GoOwls]

http://law.onecle.com/uscode/18/595.html

http://law.onecle.com/uscode/18/600.html

Doesnt have to have a dollar value on it. If they attempted to interfere in the election in any way, then it violates these codes, right?

" Whoever, directly or indirectly, promises any employment,
position, compensation, contract, appointment, or other benefit,
provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of
Congress, or any special consideration in obtaining any such
benefit, to any person as consideration, favor, or reward for any
political activity or for the support of or opposition to any
candidate or any political party in connection with any general or
special election to any political office, or in connection with any
primary election or political convention or caucus held to select
candidates for any political office, shall be fined under this
title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."

You can't argue with Bird on these issues...he had a picture of Stalin on his wall.

[mojotrain]

Whatever the bribe was he made a wise pick. His chances are greater as a stand alone demo than signing up as a obama boot licker for perhaps 30 more months.

[JMSFan]

You can't argue with Bird on these issues...he had a picture of Stalin on his wall.

I bet its still there.

[DrEdward]

Come on 15 & DrE... This is totally transparent... BOH told The Fish Man to fix the deal... Flipper called his list of SEIU goons and they found Uncle Bill... Uncle Bill made the offer but couldn't make the sale... The Mark flapped his lips bragging about the bribe he wouldnt take and... Well, here we are...

See, the most transparent, professional, experienced, ethical, well spoken, cleanest looking, world-loving administration ever...

You're right. Perhaps the question should be where does illegality end and merely absurdly sleazy begin?

[ktCarl]

That's all relative to perception. Some people might value a "well done, old chap" enough to take on a job like that. Without an ability to place a dollar value on it, it's going to be hard to convince anyone that it was "of value."

Depends on what is...is.

[Maroondog]

You're right. Perhaps the question should be where does illegality end and merely absurdly sleazy begin?

There is no end. The illegal and sleaze merely blend together to concoct a cesspool that has an overwhelming stench about it.

[Bobcat81]

Issa: Sestak Affair is an Impeachable Offense
Sunday, 30 May 2010 04:35 PM Article Font Size

The Obama administration’s offer of a job to Rep. Joe Sestak in exchange for his quitting a Senate bid is a crime and an impeachable offense, a leading Republican told Fox News Sunday.

Rep. Darrell Issa of California also said that, as with most crimes, the cover-up may actually be worse.

The explanation for the Sestak affair -- that former President Bill Clinton offered the Democratic congressman an unpaid position on an advisory board if he would drop his challenge against party-switching Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter -- is simply not plausible, Issa added. As a sitting congressman Sestak couldn't have served on a presidential commission, Issa sad.

"It's a crime because they've admitted that they offered this position ... So that begs the real question. Do we believe this is a further cover-up because he's -- they're now talking about a job that President Clinton himself should have known Sestak couldn't take? " he said.

"They're now coming up with a nonplausible answer," Issa told Fox News.

On Friday, the White House revealed that Obama Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel had asked Clinton to talk to Sestak about a presidential appointment if Sestak would suspend his bid for the Democratic Senate nomination.

Link to story;

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/30/issa-id-accept-fbi-exoneration-white-house-sestak-affair/


I hope they will pursue this!

[BDB]

LMAO! BIDEN AS POTUS! :laugh

think wisely oh fear-mongers.

[Bobcat81]

We may get to see a NoBamanation take place after all! :cool:

[JagFan]

LMAO! BIDEN AS POTUS! :laugh

think wisely oh fear-mongers.

My thoughts exactly. Be very very careful what we wish for and try to do. The soulution might be worse than the problem.

[SWMHebron]

My thoughts exactly. Be very very careful what we wish for and try to do. The solution might be worse than the problem.

Amen to that.

[Bobcat81]

LMAO! BIDEN AS POTUS! :laugh

think wisely oh fear-mongers.

That guy wouldn't last long either.. Nor would Pelosi..

[Bobcat81]

How far down the line would we have to go to get someone decent???

Hmmmm...

NoBama

1 Vice President Joe Biden
2 Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi
3 President pro tempore of the Senate Robert Byrd
4 Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
5 Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner
6 Secretary of Defense Robert Gates[2]
7 Attorney General Eric Holder
8 Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar
9 Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack
10 Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke
11 Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis
12 Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius
13 Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Shaun Donovan
14 Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood
15 Secretary of Energy Steven Chu
16 Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
17 Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki
18 Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano



I say stop at #6

Above that...Not Worthy!

Below that,.. I have no idea

[BDB]

That guy wouldn't last long either.. Nor would Pelosi..

it gets incrementally worse for conservatives blood-pressure the farther down the rabbit-hole it goes. i'm getting ready for the zombie apocalypse anyway, so i'm not worried about the future of america. this makes me kind of want to see the reaction of the board after president pelosi takes office :laugh

[Bobcat81]

it gets incrementally worse for conservatives blood-pressure the farther down the rabbit-hole it goes. i'm getting ready for the zombie apocalypse anyway, so i'm not worried about the future of america. this makes me kind of want to see the reaction of the board after president pelosi takes office :laugh

You don't think Gates would be better than Biden or Pelosi?..or Clinton?

[BDB]

You don't think Gates would be better than Biden or Pelosi?..or Clinton?

that's 6 down. might as well scrap the entire government and start a new country or wait 2-3 years.

[SWMHebron]

it gets incrementally worse for conservatives blood-pressure the farther down the rabbit-hole it goes. i'm getting ready for the zombie apocalypse anyway, so i'm not worried about the future of america. this makes me kind of want to see the reaction of the board after president pelosi takes office :laugh

Rule # 2 of Zombieland: Double tap.:cool:

[BDB]

Rule # 2 of Zombieland: Double tap.:cool:

i still need to watch that movie.

[ktCarl]

Actually, I think Hillary would be be more center than left compared to Obama.

As far as decent, I would put her at #1 on your list.

[yallerjacket2]

Actually, I think Hillary would be be more center than left compared to Obama.

As far as decent, I would put her at #1 on your list.

Commie.

[dragonsdaddy]

Issa: Sestak Affair is an Impeachable Offense
Sunday, 30 May 2010 04:35 PM Article Font Size

The Obama administration’s offer of a job to Rep. Joe Sestak in exchange for his quitting a Senate bid is a crime and an impeachable offense, a leading Republican told Fox News Sunday.

Rep. Darrell Issa of California also said that, as with most crimes, the cover-up may actually be worse.

The explanation for the Sestak affair -- that former President Bill Clinton offered the Democratic congressman an unpaid position on an advisory board if he would drop his challenge against party-switching Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter -- is simply not plausible, Issa added. As a sitting congressman Sestak couldn't have served on a presidential commission, Issa sad.

"It's a crime because they've admitted that they offered this position ... So that begs the real question. Do we believe this is a further cover-up because he's -- they're now talking about a job that President Clinton himself should have known Sestak couldn't take? " he said.

"They're now coming up with a nonplausible answer," Issa told Fox News.

On Friday, the White House revealed that Obama Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel had asked Clinton to talk to Sestak about a presidential appointment if Sestak would suspend his bid for the Democratic Senate nomination.

Link to story;

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/30/issa-id-accept-fbi-exoneration-white-house-sestak-affair/


I hope they will pursue this!
they might, but public opinion(see the haw-turners on here), the media, and more importantly, the congressional majority would bury it in so much smelly bull waste that it would never fly past our hopes for change at the top. and el pres has a point. biden???? really????

[Bobcat81]

they might, but public opinion(see the haw-turners on here), the media, and more importantly, the congressional majority would bury it in so much smelly bull waste that it would never fly past our hopes for change at the top. and el pres has a point. biden???? really????

A terrible thought i know.. Horrible really.

The lighter side tells me that "if" this were to actually happen, Biden, and the rest of this unthinkable administration..may very well come to the realization that they would have to fly a little straighter to survive the powers in place that forced a impeachment in the first place.

Biden especially.. His head always seems to hang halfway in the guillotine.

If Obama were allowed to continue his course, we may very well regret ever taking the opportunity to legally remove him. No matter what though, we're all slated to take a dunk in the port-o-potty with our current political choices.

[ktCarl]

Commie.


Well, compared to everyone else on the list. :D

[DrEdward]

It may or may not be an impeachable offense, but I don't think anyone thus far is calling for an impeachment of the President. We all know where that would lead and the level of incompetence for the job simply continues to increase. :(

[ktCarl]

It may or may not be an impeachable offense, but I don't think anyone thus far is calling for an impeachment of the President. We all know where that would lead and the level of incompetence for the job simply continues to increase. :(

Really,, A Democrat controlled House and Senate will NOT be impeaching their guy in the White House.

[SWMHebron]

i still need to watch that movie.

Yes, you do. Get back to me afterward and we'll discuss.

Or at least trade quotes.

[85Roughneck]

LMAO! BIDEN AS POTUS! :laugh

think wisely oh fear-mongers.
cool, something we agree on ...

Biden as POTUS would be a big F'n deal !

signed: Joe Biden (while all of America was watching kids and adults alike. :rolleyes:)

[mojotrain]

If democrats would take back their party they have people much better than those on the list.