Mexican immigration laws???

[mad_fan]

Since their Prez is over here bad mouthing us...
I was wondering...
What's the law in Mexico???
If ms mad and I sneak into the country can we work??? Buy a house??? Vote???

[svhorns]

No idea... try it out and let us know how it goes.

Bring back some candy.

[mad_fan]

No idea... try it out and let us know how it goes.

Bring back some candy.

chicklets for all...at no cost...I'll figure out a way to bill Obama through ms mad's minority owned immigrant import company....

[JagFan]

Since their Prez is over here bad mouthing us...
I was wondering...
What's the law in Mexico???
If ms mad and I sneak into the country can we work??? Buy a house??? Vote???

Nope. You will be thrown in jail.

[RedRage00]

No idea... try it out and let us know how it goes.

Bring back some candy.

I can give him some chanclas.

[ktCarl]

May a wild chupacabra bite you on the buttocks when you're down there.

[slcdragonfan]

I can give him some chanclas.

What is that? :eek:

[ChanSHS]

I love how people always try to make this argument. If you have money, you can go and do whatever you want. There's parts in Mexico that has a bunch of Asians building and living in huge houses and nobody give a f***. The only way they'll kick you out is if you're Central American.

[svhorns]

I love how people always try to make this argument. If you have money, you can go and do whatever you want. There's parts in Mexico that has a bunch of Asians building and living in huge houses and nobody give a f***. The only way they'll kick you out is if you're Central America.

Viva Nicaragua!!

[BDB]

I love how people always try to make this argument. If you have money, you can go and do whatever you want. There's parts in Mexico that has a bunch of Asians building and living in huge houses and nobody give a f***. The only way they'll kick you out is if you're Central American.

this. it's why chapo runs mexico.

[cougmantx]

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14632

Mexico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would love. However, Mexican officials haven’t been sharing that idea with us as they press for our Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill.

That's too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it’s noteworthy that nobody has argued that the U.S. look at how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solve

our illegal immigration problem. Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:

in the country legally;
have the means to sustain themselves economically;
not destined to be burdens on society;
of economic and social benefit to society;
of good character and have no criminal records; and
contributors to the general well-being of the nation.
The law also ensures that:

immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;
foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;
foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics;
foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;
foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;
those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.
Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens -- and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, illegal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Población, or
General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country's immigration policy.

It is an interesting law -- and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a
crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.

We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution. [1] Now let's look at Mexico's main immigration law.

Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

Foreigners are admitted into Mexico "according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress." (Article 32)
Immigration officials must "ensure" that "immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents. (Article 34)
Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets "the equilibrium of the national demographics," when foreigners are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when "they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy." (Article 37)
The Secretary of Governance may "suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest." (Article 38)
Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:

Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)
A National Population Registry keeps track of "every single individual who comprises the population of the country," and verifies each individual's identity. (Articles 85 and 86)

A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:

Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)
Foreigners who sign government documents "with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses" are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)
Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:

Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)
Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)
Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico -- such as working with out a permit -- can also be imprisoned.

Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,

"A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally." (Article 123)
Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)
Foreigners who "attempt against national sovereignty or security" will be deported. (Article 126)
Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:

A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)
Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)
All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States. The stark contrast between Mexico's immigration practices versus its American
immigration preachings is telling. It gives a clear picture of the Mexican government's agenda: to have a one-way immigration relationship with the United States.

Let's call Mexico's bluff on its unwarranted interference in U.S. immigration policy. Let's propose, just to make a point, that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) member nations standardize their immigration laws by using Mexico's own law as a model.

[chhspantherfan]

great post.

[Mong Hu]

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14632

If he accuses Arizona's government of being discriminatory can we accuse him and his government of being hypocritical?

[drgnbkr]

If he accuses Arizona's government of being discriminatory can we accuse him and his government of being hypocritical?

As Mark Levin said today, we just need to take the Mexican law, which is obviously far more restrictive than ours and call it by a new name, pass it and see what they say. Too simple?:rolleyes:

[cyfallsbooster2]

If he accuses Arizona's government of being discriminatory can we accuse him and his government of being hypocritical?

I believe we can as he said that anyone caught making money in his country without being a national would be "sent back"........:eek:

[ChanSHS]

As Mark Levin said today, we just need to take the Mexican law, which is obviously far more restrictive than ours and call it by a new name, pass it and see what they say. Too simple?:rolleyes:

Mexicans don't enforce anything unless you're Central American. Mexicans hate Central Americans...

[Mong Hu]

Mexicans don't enforce anything unless you're Central American. Mexicans hate Central Americans...

Yes and the feeling might I add is mutual.

[mojotrain]

I love how people always try to make this argument. If you have money, you can go and do whatever you want. There's parts in Mexico that has a bunch of Asians building and living in huge houses and nobody give a f***. The only way they'll kick you out is if you're Central American.

MMMMM, not exactly that sweet at least on the border. Run over a 2000.00 dollar chicken and you will wish they would just kick you out of the country. Raw green beans and water together in a tomato can once a day is your food. Use the bathroom in the floor and they may wash the floor down with a fire hose once a day.

Is there a branch of the ACLU in Mexico? How about the New Black Panthers, do they have reps in place in Mexico?

[mojotrain]

Mexicans don't enforce anything unless you're Central American. Mexicans hate Central Americans...


Pssst! there are 900 hundred of them working for Takata Ind. in Acuna.....Now! (cheap labor)

[mojotrain]

Yes and the feeling might I add is mutual.

Why? The central Americans are just trying to find a better life. If one has a wife and little children how could the Mexicans deny them the opportunity for a better life.

[TXMike]

An exchange between Calderon and CNN's Wolf Blitzer:

BLITZER: So if people want to come from Guatemala or Honduras or El Salvador or Nicaragua, they want to just come into Mexico, they can just walk in?
CALDERON: No. They need to fulfill a form. They need to establish their right name. We analyze if they have not a criminal precedent. And they coming into Mexico. Actually…
BLITZER: Do Mexican police go around asking for papers of people they suspect are illegal immigrants?
CALDERON: Of course. Of course, in the border, we are asking the people, who are you?
And if they explain…
BLITZER: At the border, I understand, when they come in.
CALDERON: Yes.
BLITZER: But once they’re in…
CALDERON: But not — but not in — if — once they are inside the — inside the country, what the Mexican police do is, of course, enforce the law. But by any means, immigration is a crime anymore in Mexico.
BLITZER: Immigration is not a crime, you’re saying?
CALDERON: It’s not a crime.
BLITZER: So in other words, if somebody sneaks in from Nicaragua or some other country in Central America, through the southern border of Mexico, they wind up in Mexico, they can go get a job…
CALDERON: No, no.
BLITZER: They can work.
CALDERON: If — if somebody do that without permission, we send back — we send back them.

[JMSFan]

An exchange between Calderon and CNN's Wolf Blitzer:

BLITZER: So if people want to come from Guatemala or Honduras or El Salvador or Nicaragua, they want to just come into Mexico, they can just walk in?
CALDERON: No. They need to fulfill a form. They need to establish their right name. We analyze if they have not a criminal precedent. And they coming into Mexico. Actually…
BLITZER: Do Mexican police go around asking for papers of people they suspect are illegal immigrants?
CALDERON: Of course. Of course, in the border, we are asking the people, who are you?
And if they explain…
BLITZER: At the border, I understand, when they come in.
CALDERON: Yes.
BLITZER: But once they’re in…
CALDERON: But not — but not in — if — once they are inside the — inside the country, what the Mexican police do is, of course, enforce the law. But by any means, immigration is a crime anymore in Mexico.
BLITZER: Immigration is not a crime, you’re saying?
CALDERON: It’s not a crime.
BLITZER: So in other words, if somebody sneaks in from Nicaragua or some other country in Central America, through the southern border of Mexico, they wind up in Mexico, they can go get a job…
CALDERON: No, no.
BLITZER: They can work.
CALDERON: If — if somebody do that without permission, we send back — we send back them.

But he lectures us on Arizona's SB 1070, and our White House admins cheer him on?
His (and Obama's) hypocrisy knows no bounds.

[mojotrain]

Would any obamaites care to comment?:)

Now in another piece of work from a obama fellow named norton, who is the head of I C E. Norton said that ice may no longer deport illegals caught in Arizona. I C E is the group that allowed a 21 year old attend school in Odessa with 13-14 year olds.

[dragonsdaddy]

Would any obamaites care to comment?:)

that's a tough one pal.

[JMSFan]

Would any obamaites care to comment?:)

in another piece of work from a obama fellow named norton, the head of ice, ice is the same group that allowed a 22 year old go to attend the 9th grade in Odessa, has said that ice may no longer deport illegals caught in Arizona.


I wish we could deport our president.

(Oh, Im sorry..... was that too "American" to say about someone that seems to be anti-american these days?)

[slcdragonfan]

An exchange between Calderon and CNN's Wolf Blitzer:

BLITZER: So if people want to come from Guatemala or Honduras or El Salvador or Nicaragua, they want to just come into Mexico, they can just walk in?
CALDERON: No. They need to fulfill a form. They need to establish their right name. We analyze if they have not a criminal precedent. And they coming into Mexico. Actually…
BLITZER: Do Mexican police go around asking for papers of people they suspect are illegal immigrants?
CALDERON: Of course. Of course, in the border, we are asking the people, who are you?
And if they explain…
BLITZER: At the border, I understand, when they come in.
CALDERON: Yes.
BLITZER: But once they’re in…
CALDERON: But not — but not in — if — once they are inside the — inside the country, what the Mexican police do is, of course, enforce the law. But by any means, immigration is a crime anymore in Mexico.
BLITZER: Immigration is not a crime, you’re saying?
CALDERON: It’s not a crime.
BLITZER: So in other words, if somebody sneaks in from Nicaragua or some other country in Central America, through the southern border of Mexico, they wind up in Mexico, they can go get a job…
CALDERON: No, no.
BLITZER: They can work.
CALDERON: If — if somebody do that without permission, we send back — we send back them.

What is Blitzer doing? Isn't he a liberal from that liberal newsource CNN?? What is wrong here? Is he not a liberal anymore? :)

[JagFan]

Would any obamaites care to comment?:)

Now in another piece of work from a obama fellow named norton, who is the head of I C E. Norton said that ice may no longer deport illegals caught in Arizona. I C E is the group that allowed a 21 year old attend school in Odessa with 13-14 year olds.

Here is a link to the article on what he said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/21/official-says-feds-process-illegals-referred-arizona/



The law, which criminalizes being in the state illegally and requires authorities to check suspects for immigration status, is not "good government," Morton said.

In response to Morton's comments, DHS officials said President Obama has ordered the Department of Justice to examine the civil rights and other implications of the law.

"That review will inform the government's actions going forward," DHS spokesman Matt Chandler told Fox News on Friday.

Meanwhile, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano said ICE is not obligated to process illegal immigrants referred to them by Arizona authorities.

"ICE has the legal discretion to accept or not to accept persons delivered to it by non-federal personnel," Napolitano said. "It also has the discretion to deport or not to deport persons delivered to it by any government agents, even its own."

[DrEdward]

What is Blitzer doing? Isn't he a liberal from that liberal newsource CNN?? What is wrong here? Is he not a liberal anymore? :)

Some opportunities are just so easy that even a CNN, although, not perhaps msnbc, can not resist. This ____ from Mexico, along with our President and Congress, would appear to be just such an opportunity.

[slcdragonfan]

Some opportunities are just so easy that even a CNN, although, not perhaps msnbc, can not resist. This ____ from Mexico, along with our President and Congress, would appear to be just such an opportunity.

:)

All this talk about immigration and Mexicans has me needing a margarita.:D Let's get serious about this. SRZS BZNSS. Are you interested in Esparza'a on Sunday PM? Trying to get Drgnbkr as well for a birthday drink. All others invited as well, including even Katy Fan. :) Not sure about FF though, the police probably have his picture in their cars and are looking for him as we speak. He will need to wear a disguise.

[ktCarl]

Here is a link to the article on what he said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/21/official-says-feds-process-illegals-referred-arizona/



The law, which criminalizes being in the state illegally and requires authorities to check suspects for immigration status, is not "good government," Morton said.

In response to Morton's comments, DHS officials said President Obama has ordered the Department of Justice to examine the civil rights and other implications of the law.

"That review will inform the government's actions going forward," DHS spokesman Matt Chandler told Fox News on Friday.

Meanwhile, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano said ICE is not obligated to process illegal immigrants referred to them by Arizona authorities.

"ICE has the legal discretion to accept or not to accept persons delivered to it by non-federal personnel," Napolitano said. "It also has the discretion to deport or not to deport persons delivered to it by any government agents, even its own."

Obviously this administration is positioning itself for a mass amnesty of currently residing illegal immigrants. Then they will point that they were against Arizona's bill and was 'kind' to the illegals hoping for massive votes to save their Party in upcoming elections. It's a big vote courting debacle.

Next the Obama administration is going to try and figure out a way to let North Koreans and Mainland Chinese to vote in our elections. (Just kidding on last sentence but what won't this POTUS do?)

[DrEdward]

:)

All this talk about immigration and Mexicans has me needing a margarita.:D Let's get serious about this. SRZS BZNSS. Are you interested in Esparza'a on Sunday PM? Trying to get Drgnbkr as well for a birthday drink. All others invited as well, including even Katy Fan. :) Not sure about FF though, the police probably have his picture in their cars and are looking for him as we speak. He will need to wear a disguise.

farmer can come disquised as either a Carroll fan or a Yankee fan; no one will recognize him that way. I can definitely be up for Esparza's Sunday evening.

[slcdragonfan]

farmer can come disquised as either a Carroll fan or a Yankee fan; no one will recognize him that way. I can definitely be up for Esparza's Sunday evening.

OK, I'll open a thread.

[JagFan]

Obviously this administration is positioning itself for a mass amnesty of currently residing illegal immigrants. Then they will point that they were against Arizona's bill and was 'kind' to the illegals hoping for massive votes to save their Party in upcoming elections. It's a big vote courting debacle.

Next the Obama administration is going to try and figure out a way to let North Koreans and Mainland Chinese to vote in our elections. (Just kidding on last sentence but what won't this POTUS do?)

I am afraid you are right. I just find it disgusting. I hope they pay back the money Ms. Mad and others have paid to do it the legal route.

[E-Vol-ution]

farmer can come disquised as either a Carroll fan or a Yankee fan; no one will recognize him that way. I can definitely be up for Esparza's Sunday evening.

Maybe a Longview fan?

[JagFan]

Maybe a Longview fan?

:rofl:

[mad_fan]

farmer can come disquised as either a Carroll fan or a Yankee fan; no one will recognize him that way. I can definitely be up for Esparza's Sunday evening.

Or as a cop...

[mojotrain]

What is Blitzer doing? Isn't he a liberal from that liberal newsource CNN?? What is wrong here? Is he not a liberal anymore? :)
Let him be the first to cross over. Not!:)

[mojotrain]

:)

All this talk about immigration and Mexicans has me needing a margarita.:D Let's get serious about this. SRZS BZNSS. Are you interested in Esparza'a on Sunday PM? Trying to get Drgnbkr as well for a birthday drink. All others invited as well, including even Katy Fan. :) Not sure about FF though, the police probably have his picture in their cars and are looking for him as we speak. He will need to wear a disguise.

If any thing comes up for a vote please be my proxy!

[slcdragonfan]

If any thing comes up for a vote please be my proxy!

mojotrain, we got ya' covered.

[DrEdward]

Maybe a Longview fan?

That would indeed screw with a few folks' minds.

[mojotrain]

"We are not defined by our borders." Now that he said it, will we take on the laws of mexico or will mexico take on the laws of the USA?

[JMSFan]

"We are not defined by our borders." Now that he said it, will we take on the laws of mexico or will mexico take on the laws of the USA?

The "apology tour" is still going.

[svhorns]

I swear to God some of yall are retardded.
:yes:

[okt0ber]

:)

All this talk about immigration and Mexicans has me needing a margarita.:D Let's get serious about this. SRZS BZNSS. Are you interested in Esparza'a on Sunday PM? Trying to get Drgnbkr as well for a birthday drink. All others invited as well, including even Katy Fan. :) Not sure about FF though, the police probably have his picture in their cars and are looking for him as we speak. He will need to wear a disguise.

And don't forget - Margaritas are an American drink. They were invented in El Paso. So don't let anyone tell you that we shouldn't be drinking them.

[chhspantherfan]

"We are not defined by our borders." Now that he said it, will we take on the laws of mexico or will mexico take on the laws of the USA?

sounds like an invasion, definitely an act of war. Call in the airstrikes. :rolleyes:

[JMSFan]

I swear to God some of yall are retardded.
:yes:

Arizona Sing-A-Long

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6qEQ-KnitQ&feature=player_embedded

[mad_fan]

I swear to God some of yall are retardded.
:yes:

Arre you isuinng paperrs that I needd to have in adddition too my Texxas Driver's Liccense to provve I'mm a retardded to thee laww ociffers???

[svhorns]

Arre you isuinng paperrs that I needd to have in adddition too my Texxas Driver's Liccense to provve I'mm a retardded to thee laww ociffers???

yesss I'i ame

[mad_fan]

yesss I'i ame

Send two...in case ms mad's lawful pink (green) card isn't good enough for the joke that is ICE...your card will probably get her wherever she needs to go...
btw...yes I do feel stoopid paying the US Government a few thousand dollars for that card...

[DrEdward]

Send two...in case ms mad's lawful pink (green) card isn't good enough for the joke that is ICE...your card will probably get her wherever she needs to go...
btw...yes I do feel stoopid paying the US Government a few thousand dollars for that card...

You and Ms. Mad should be worried; evidently our exceptional government leaders in I.C.E. have now decided to ignore any illegals turned up by Arizona, they will have more resources to put into Texas. Your only hope is for Texas to pass a similar statute and then I.C.E. can feel free to ignore their responsibilities in Texas as well. :rolleyes:

[slcdragonfan]

Send two...in case ms mad's lawful pink (green) card isn't good enough for the joke that is ICE...your card will probably get her wherever she needs to go...
btw...yes I do feel stoopid paying the US Government a few thousand dollars for that card...

It cost me and my employee more than a few thousand when you include the lawyers. And the time? years.

[dragonsdaddy]

And don't forget - Margaritas are an American drink. They were invented in El Paso. So don't let anyone tell you that we shouldn't be drinking them.

were they? cause a restaurant in dallas also makes that claim. regardless, they are God's gift to the road-weary and the thirsty denizens of this great state, which has well-defined and inviolable borders, despite the garbage vari-o spews.