Allen's new stadium to set the gold standard for Texas 5A football

[JagDad07]

About time..... ;)

http://highschoolsportsblog.dallasnews.com/Allen%20Stadium.jpg

http://highschoolsportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/04/if-drawings-are-any-indication.html

Construction for Allen's new 18,000-seat high school football stadium is expected to begin this September. And by the looks of it, it's going to be a state-of-the-art facility that will be the envy of Class 5A programs from the Dallas-Fort Worth and beyond.

In May 2009, voters approved a $119.4 million bond proposal for a new auditorium at Allen High School, new multipurpose stadium and a new service center for maintenance, student nutrition and transportation.

[slcdragonfan]

Too bad Keller doesn't have that vision for THEIR kids.:(

It looks like a beauty. You'll have to invite us up sometime. ;)

[dada]

18,000? isnt that over kill?

[slcdragonfan]

18,000? isnt that over kill?

You are talking about the Plano City Champs here. 'nuff said.

[F18mustang]

Ratliff Stadium did that a long time ago.

[trainin' the game]

it will never have the atomoshere like the double-wide had with it seating 18,000.They will come out the first year but what about after that?

they should pay it off pretty quick if they open it up for playoffs. 18,000 will be able to play into the 4th and 5th rds with aa stadium that big; only problem is allen is really away from it all.

[FatBoy of Troy]

I'm glad they're finally getting it.:yes: It should be very attractive as a neutral playoff site...that equates into additional $$$ revenue.:yes:

If it were left up to me I would scrap all those trees and just create more parking. And without all that "beautification" clutter the lot itself could be used for more things in the off season. They have sportscar rallys and motorcycle safety courses at Pennington all the time.

[Steve Ulmer]

50 million dollar stadium/complex and you still have 6,000 endzone seats and from the look of it not that many rows of seats. Just like the old dump.

What is so wrong of having the seats between the endzones and not beind it.

Why not make the endzone grass and build the 18,000 seats between the endzones and if needed open up the grass during big games.

[I_Watch_the_Games]

Just like the double wide they wanted to keep all the students in the endzone. Something pretty special about that. Plus the enclosed endzone will keep some of the noise level in the place. With the students at one end and the band at another, one can't escape some level of noise wherever you are at on the field. I have a 10 page site plan if anyone wants to look at more details. It's gonna be a special place on Friday nights!

[TulsaHale74]

50% bad seats. I always prefer sitting higher on the side than low on the end.

Envy is MIA.

[wolfpack4life]

Can you say......


Rich.

[bigdaddydog]

Can you say......


Rich.

Yo dog don't be that way. You gotta make it with what you got. The Lobo's got a killa stadium out east. You just need to upgrade them lights. :notworthy

http://www.etradebabymail.com/?mId=35853744.3


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[wolfpack4life]

Yo dog don't be that way. You gotta make it with what you got. The Lobo's got a killa stadium out east. You just need to upgrade them lights. :notworthy

http://www.etradebabymail.com/?mId=35853744.3


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New Turf, Track and Lights being upgraded as we speak;)

[bigdaddydog]

New Turf, Track and Lights being upgraded as we speak;)

I can't wait to come out and see it next season. I'm glad you all are doin it!:D


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[allendad]

Yo dog don't be that way. You gotta make it with what you got. The Lobo's got a killa stadium out east. You just need to upgrade them lights. :notworthy

http://www.etradebabymail.com/?mId=35853744.3

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Leave it to Daddy to find a "Yo Dog..." dealio ! ! !

Techno-minded Hillbillies are VEAAAAAARY dangerous ! ! ! !

Next year, we be neein' a bigger truck for the ride to the View.
Will I still be able to swing by and get you out of the state hospital on a work release deal????:D



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[allendad]

50% bad seats. I always prefer sitting higher on the side than low on the end.

Envy is MIA.

Up high is ALWAYS better than down low . . . . .

They wouldn't call me for my input though!:(:(:(



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[allendad]

I'm glad they're finally getting it.:yes: It should be very attractive as a neutral playoff site...that equates into additional $$$ revenue.:yes:

If it were left up to me I would scrap all those trees and just create more parking. And without all that "beautification" clutter the lot itself could be used for more things in the off season. They have sportscar rallys and motorcycle safety courses at Pennington all the time.

Those trees are just some Al Gore-Eco friendly artist's dream.

They aren't there. To the right of the indoor practice buliding is just
some of that good ol' brown Texas grass this time of year. . . . and two
baseball fields. It's a pretty picture, but all the greenery ain't there.



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[Favpack]

18,000 will hold almost half of the band parents. :notworthy

[allendad]

ALLEN ISD just signed a contract with the new
caterer for the new stadium. It was a drawn out,
very competitive process. However the winner was
thrilled to get the contract. She said right off the bat that
the folks from Longview would be thrilled with the new menu
at the new house. She said they were accustomed to her
style of cooking.


So, without further ado . . . . . . . .






Our new caterer for the new Eagle's Stadium is . . . . .
















Betty . . . . . .
















http://www.belch.com/img/lunchlady.jpg





:p:p:p


Go Lobos !



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[bob1122]

they should pay it off pretty quick if they open it up for playoffs. 18,000 will be able to play into the 4th and 5th rds with aa stadium that big; only problem is allen is really away from it all.

You do know schools make next to nothing for playoff games? Certainly not enough for pay off a stadium.

[bigdaddydog]

You do know schools make next to nothing for playoff games? Certainly not enough for pay off a stadium.


Shhhhh!!! Gaww, you're gonna spoil the secret.

P.S. Did you see the story on channel 8 tonight about the 100,000 sq ft. Cabellas possibly coming to Allen? I'm sure our forward thinking attitude had nothing to do with that. ;)


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[LoboBooster73]

ALLEN ISD just signed a contract with the new
caterer for the new stadium. It was a drawn out,
very competitive process. However the winner was
thrilled to get the contract. She said right off the bat that
the folks from Longview would be thrilled with the new menu
at the new house. She said they were accustomed to her
style of cooking.


So, without further ado . . . . . . . .






Our new caterer for the new Eagle's Stadium is . . . . .
















Betty . . . . . .
















http://www.belch.com/img/lunchlady.jpg





:p:p:p


Go Lobos !



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I hope she grills up a good turkey leg.

[RedRage00]

That looks nice, but way too much IMO.

[JagDad07]

No, they need at least 10,000 seats for just the band parents!

Now, when we built our 11,000 seat stadium in Mansfield, THAT was too much. I think the biggest crowd ever was the Summit/Mansfield game a couple of years ago and that only had 8,000.

[JagDad07]

oh, and Longview fans - you guys have one of my favorite stadiums in the whole state. It's a classic that just a few upgrades will make really up to date.

[has09]

School districts make some money off playoff games. They keep all parking revenue, they keep a portion of the gate and concessions I believe. It's not a ton of money but its not a philanthropic venture.

[Steve Ulmer]

Clark field is still the gold standard in Collin County. Regardless what Allen builds. :D

[mojotrain]

Just like the double wide they wanted to keep all the students in the endzone. Something pretty special about that. Plus the enclosed endzone will keep some of the noise level in the place. With the students at one end and the band at another, one can't escape some level of noise wherever you are at on the field. I have a 10 page site plan if anyone wants to look at more details. It's gonna be a special place on Friday nights!

It is a beautiful place and I'm sure it fits the needs of those who pay for it. Playoff games without the Eagles, if open for them, could get a little rough if up to 17-20 thousand show up. I can see a lot of fan problems if two teams like SLC and ET show up. More fights in the end zones than on the field.:)

[slcdragonfan]

It is a beautiful place and I'm sure it fits the needs of those who pay for it. Playoff games without the Eagles, if open for them, could get a little rough if up to 17-20 thousand show up. I can see a lot of fan problems if two teams like SLC and ET show up. More fights in the end zones than on the field.:)

SLC and ET don't fight, don't you know they are two of the big three love triangle?

kumbaya

[wolfpack4life]

ALLEN ISD just signed a contract with the new
caterer for the new stadium. It was a drawn out,
very competitive process. However the winner was
thrilled to get the contract. She said right off the bat that
the folks from Longview would be thrilled with the new menu
at the new house. She said they were accustomed to her
style of cooking.


So, without further ado . . . . . . . .






Our new caterer for the new Eagle's Stadium is . . . . .
















Betty . . . . . .
















http://www.belch.com/img/lunchlady.jpg





:p:p:p


Go Lobos !



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That's funny stuff. :D

[bob1122]

Shhhhh!!! Gaww, you're gonna spoil the secret.

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Oh don't worry I like to use that same argument about the playoff games with our stadium to :D

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Maybe I missed it, but how much is the actual stadium costing? All I saw was the price for the entire bond package

[allendad]

Oh don't worry I like to use that same argument about the playoff games with our stadium to :D

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Maybe I missed it, but how much is the actual stadium costing? All I saw was the price for the entire bond package

The stadium is suppose to be budgeted for 59 Million. From what I have heard though . . . . it should be coming in at less than that. It is actually a good time to be buliding.


GO EAGLES!



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[TulsaHale74]

I was previously critical because of so many endzone seats but I was basing that on the picture in the first post. One of the news channels showed a different view in which the upper deck can be seen on the home side.

I've had time to view the Stadium Update (http://www.allenisd.org/20061061015583133/lib/20061061015583133/Bond%20Project%20Artwork-Files/Stadium%20Update.pdf) package and see the view the news used, field level, and the sections view.

I still think the 18000 seats could have been allocated with more sideline seats and less lowlevel/endzone seats. I think it's a shame that the student seats are all in the endzone.

I have changed on the envy factor though. It's a very nice facility.

[bigdaddydog]

Clark field is still the gold standard in Collin County. Regardless what Allen builds. :D

Oh Steve, stop toying with us. We will always have a fond place in our hearts for Clark. :)

http://www.etradebabymail.com/?mId=35860449.3


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[allendad]

Oh Steve, stop toying with us. We will always have a fond place in our hearts for Clark. :)

http://www.etradebabymail.com/?mId=35860449.3


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Of course we do . . . . . .


We always WIN there ! ! ! ! !


BLAAAAAAAAAAH ! ! ! ! ! !:yes::yes::yes:



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[Maroondog]

Oh Steve, stop toying with us. We will always have a fond place in our hearts for Clark. :)

http://www.etradebabymail.com/?mId=35860449.3


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You should. You've had a lot of success there. :mad:

How much parking at the new digs? One of my personal pet peeves is that lots of places don't have adequate parking.

[bigdaddydog]

You should. You've had a lot of success there. :mad:

How much parking at the new digs? One of my personal pet peeves is that lots of places don't have adequate parking.

They are adding ~1,500 parking spaces mostly around the east and north of where the new stadium will be. that should make for lots of spaces for the visitors to park and quick close access into the stadium. Total parking spaces will be 4,500 including all the current spaces at the High School.

They also have advanced planned the exits and quick routes back to the highway. They talked about contraflow before and after the game to help with that.

It will be great. I promise!!;)


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[dada]

Serious question.......will this turn out as "buyer's regret"....I know at the time of the state title.......everyone was "in the momement" and 18,000 sounded good......but when you're getting what 8-10,000 a game what will happen? To be honest.....I don't know what Allen's average attendance is....but will EVERY game be 18K?

At one time Berry Center was a good idea....but I think I've only seen it to capacity once.

Don't get me wrong....the stadium is awesome from what i've seen.....but the 18k makes me scratch my head.

[bigdaddydog]

Serious question.......will this turn out as "buyer's regret"....I know at the time of the state title.......everyone was "in the momement" and 18,000 sounded good......but when you're getting what 8-10,000 a game what will happen? To be honest.....I don't know what Allen's average attendance is....but will EVERY game be 18K?

At one time Berry Center was a good idea....but I think I've only seen it to capacity once.

Don't get me wrong....the stadium is awesome from what i've seen.....but the 18k makes me scratch my head.

They were originally talking 20K. The 18K is peak capacity usage for sure. There should be maybe 2-3 games during the year that it will be close to or at max capacity. When I go back through the years I can remeber which games that would have been.

There will be many games that will be half full. I am sure when that happens there will be folks crying and moaning and complaining. They always come out. There may even be years when the team is down and attendance will drop along with it.

All I can tell you is I will be there no matter what yelling and screaming for the Eagles!!


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[Eagle81]

I'm not going to knock it. It was much needed and it gives the Eagles a place they can be proud of. Congrats to the city of Allen for making the deal work.

[mojotrain]

They are adding ~1,500 parking spaces mostly around the east and north of where the new stadium will be. that should make for lots of spaces for the visitors to park and quick close access into the stadium. Total parking spaces will be 4,500 including all the current spaces at the High School.

They also have advanced planned the exits and quick routes back to the highway. They talked about contraflow before and after the game to help with that.

It will be great. I promise!!;)


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What about stables!

[TulsaHale74]

Serious question.......will this turn out as "buyer's regret"....I know at the time of the state title.......everyone was "in the momement" and 18,000 sounded good......but when you're getting what 8-10,000 a game what will happen? To be honest.....I don't know what Allen's average attendance is....but will EVERY game be 18K?

At one time Berry Center was a good idea....but I think I've only seen it to capacity once.

Don't get me wrong....the stadium is awesome from what i've seen.....but the 18k makes me scratch my head.
I don't see many sellouts anywhere but your point is well made. Can they get 80% - 14,400?

Allen is big - double the size of other 5A schools. If the Katy or Cypress-Fairbanks school districts cut out half of their high schools how big of stadiums would they need?

[Bill4par]

Clark field is still the gold standard in Collin County. Regardless what Allen builds. :D


Dude, get outta here.....Clark will not even be the 3rd best in Collin County.Not even relevant anymore.

[xray10]

put the million man march----ing band in the low endzone seats....

[Steve Ulmer]

Dude, get outta here.....Clark will not even be the 3rd best in Collin County.Not even relevant anymore.


OK little boy, Using Dude to address me is really funny. Tell me a stadium nicer than Clark since the renovation? None. Don't say Kimbrough either. Its nice however any stadium with a track around and a small vistors side does not compute. Now go get your shine box!!;)

[bigdaddydog]

What about stables!

Well the stables are way out east near Lucas. I suppose we could put in some hitching posts over by the tennis courts where there is some grass. :D

No room left for Polo Grounds... :( We'll have to take that up with the Board.


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[bigdaddydog]

I don't see many sellouts anywhere but your point is well made. Can they get 80% - 14,400?

Allen is big - double the size of other 5A schools. If the Katy or Cypress-Fairbanks school districts cut out half of their high schools how big of stadiums would they need?

Sure, we have had 14,400 multiple times in the last few years at home abd probably more than that at several Games down in Plano at Clark.

At 5049 Allen is about the size of Katy and Katy Taylor combined. If Cypress cut out half their schools, Man! That would make 5 high schools with over 5800 kids in each of them. Plano can't even match those numbers. I think they would need at least an 18K seat stadium or two!!:D


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[ALLENFANDINGO5]

50 million dollar stadium/complex and you still have 6,000 endzone seats and from the look of it not that many rows of seats. Just like the old dump.

What is so wrong of having the seats between the endzones and not beind it.

Why not make the endzone grass and build the 18,000 seats between the endzones and if needed open up the grass during big games.
Havent you heard that by 2012 our band will be 6000 strong and we plan to have them play from the endzone.

[bigdaddydog]

Thanks to bandnerd1983 for the link. Looks like Rivals has picked up the story. At least Rivals knows how to write a good fair and balanced story!!:notworthy

http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1074494


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[ALLENFANDINGO5]

They are adding ~1,500 parking spaces mostly around the east and north of where the new stadium will be. that should make for lots of spaces for the visitors to park and quick close access into the stadium. Total parking spaces will be 4,500 including all the current spaces at the High School.

They also have advanced planned the exits and quick routes back to the highway. They talked about contraflow before and after the game to help with that.

It will be great. I promise!!;)


~I will be offering a shuttle service from my house for a nominal fee.Food works too.

[Steve Ulmer]

Thanks to bandnerd1983 for the link. Looks like Rivals has picked up the story. At least Rivals knows how to write a good fair and balanced story!!:notworthy

http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1074494


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Article is full of lies & half truths. :eek:

50K in attendance for the SLC game? Lie.

Powerhouse in Texas? Lets be good for more than 6 years before talking dynasty. 1 title in history does not make a powerhouse. 2nd round exit last year a first round exit in 07, Blowout losses in the playoffs to a real powerhouse. Allen is good, not a powerhouse.

Do I need to continue!:D

[bigdaddydog]

I will be offering a shuttle service from my house for a nominal fee.Food works too.

Count me in!!

Speaking of food, dad and I are going to try and get some lunch tomorrow. Let us know how your scheule looks.


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[Bill4par]

OK little boy, Using Dude to address me is really funny. Tell me a stadium nicer than Clark since the renovation? None. Don't say Kimbrough either. Its nice however any stadium with a track around and a small vistors side does not compute. Now go get your shine box!!;)

ah, my old friend, settle down bro...plano will be relevant again at some point. You are dilusional if you think those "upgrades" still make Clark the best stadium? There is a real real nice "crib" up in Frisco that is much better for starters.:heli:

[mojotrain]

Well the stables are way out east near Lucas. I suppose we could put in some hitching posts over by the tennis courts where there is some grass. :D

No room left for Polo Grounds... :( We'll have to take that up with the Board.


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If you can't provide stables don't expect many from Odessa to show.:)

[BlakeJ]

All that for 2nd round playoff teams??

When is LaPorte building their new Stadium?? :D

[5ASports]

.....but the 18k makes me scratch my head.
It's simple, Allen paid $55M for an extensive market analysis that determined "17,500" was a critical factor for their athletic recruiting campaigns.

Then, they paid another $58M for a subsequent "better" report that said "18,000" was correct number, so they had to add the end-zone seats.

The good news is, it all going to be paid for through a toll-tag system being installed in Longview, and by adding $4.00 to the price of school milk in Southlake.

(ok...I'm just jealous):cool:

[allendad]

Article is full of lies & half truths. :eek:

50K in attendance for the SLC game? Lie.

Powerhouse in Texas? Lets be good for more than 6 years before talking dynasty. 1 title in history does not make a powerhouse. 2nd round exit last year a first round exit in 07, Blowout losses in the playoffs to a real powerhouse. Allen is good, not a powerhouse.

Do I need to continue!:D

Oh, the little jealous children to the south . . . tsk,tsk!

"Lies and half truths" . . . . . come on.

PLANO SUCKS! Y'all have to admit it and learn to live with it.
It has to just be a HUMBLING experience to not be the TOP DOG
north of LBJ. For that matter, the ONLY dog north of LBJ ! ! !
Life was good for y'all when you were the only dog in the hunt
in Collin Co. Now there are a lot of school's around to contend
with. Oh, the 70's, 80's, and 90's must have been great in Plain-o.

Times change m'brutha !

Allen got a 2nd Chick-fil-a!:eek:

I mean crap, Allen's even getting a Cabelas ! ! !

Now, if our 4'6" QB could just grow 16 " before August
we'll be alright ! ! ! ! ! ! !

:p



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[allendad]

Article is full of lies & half truths. :eek:

50K in attendance for the SLC game? Lie.

Powerhouse in Texas? Lets be good for more than 6 years before talking dynasty. 1 title in history does not make a powerhouse. 2nd round exit last year a first round exit in 07, Blowout losses in the playoffs to a real powerhouse. Allen is good, not a powerhouse.

Do I need to continue!:D

Oh, the little jealous children to the south . . . tsk,tsk!

"Lies and half truths" . . . . . come on.

PLANO SUCKS! Y'all have to admit it and learn to live with it.
It has to just be a HUMBLING experience to not be the TOP DOG
north of LBJ. For that matter, the ONLY dog north of LBJ ! ! !
Life was good for y'all when you were the only dog in the hunt
in Collin Co. Now there are a lot of school's around to contend
with. Oh, the 70's, 80's, and 90's must have been great in Plain-o.

Times change m'brutha !

Allen got a 2nd Chick-fil-a!:eek:

I mean crap, Allen's even getting a Cabelas ! ! !

Now, if our 4'6" QB could just grow 16 " before August
we'll be alright ! ! ! ! ! ! !

:p



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[allendad]

CRAP !

Double post y'all !

Sorry ! ! !



:o:o:o:o



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[Bill4par]

Oh, the little jealous children to the south . . . tsk,tsk!

"Lies and half truths" . . . . . come on.

PLANO SUCKS! Y'all have to admit it and learn to live with it.
It has to just be a HUMBLING experience to not be the TOP DOG
north of LBJ. For that matter, the ONLY dog north of LBJ ! ! !
Life was good for y'all when you were the only dog in the hunt
in Collin Co. Now there are a lot of school's around to contend
with. Oh, the 70's, 80's, and 90's must have been great in Plain-o.

Times change m'brutha !

Allen got a 2nd Chick-fil-a!:eek:

I mean crap, Allen's even getting a Cabelas ! ! !

Now, if our 4'6" QB could just grow 16 " before August
we'll be alright ! ! ! ! ! ! !

:p



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....I'm also gonna go out on a limb and say Clark is Allen's other Stadium. Until Plano can beat us there, it belongs to Allen...just like the Golf Course in Plano thats run by Allen.

[wolfpack4life]

Oh, the little jealous children to the south . . . tsk,tsk!

"Lies and half truths" . . . . . come on.

PLANO SUCKS! Y'all have to admit it and learn to live with it.
It has to just be a HUMBLING experience to not be the TOP DOG
north of LBJ. For that matter, the ONLY dog north of LBJ ! ! !
Life was good for y'all when you were the only dog in the hunt
in Collin Co. Now there are a lot of school's around to contend
with. Oh, the 70's, 80's, and 90's must have been great in Plain-o.

Times change m'brutha !

Allen got a 2nd Chick-fil-a!:eek:

I mean crap, Allen's even getting a Cabelas ! ! !

Now, if our 4'6" QB could just grow 16 " before August
we'll be alright ! ! ! ! ! ! !

:p



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You beat me to it:yes:


I mean really!

How can a school with 6k...count em..6k not be successful in football.

[Wypirates03]

....I'm also gonna go out on a limb and say Clark is Allen's other Stadium. Until Plano can beat us there, it belongs to Allen...just like the Golf Course in Plano thats run by Allen.

Not really going out on a limb with that statement.

[bigdaddydog]

Not really going out on a limb with that statement.

It's the Allen curse. We just have a hard time not sticking with our "Humble". I think when Plano finds their Humble, they will start winning again.

God must have been testing them out back in 2005. ;):D


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[bigdaddydog]

OK little boy, Using Dude to address me is really funny. Tell me a stadium nicer than Clark since the renovation? None. Don't say Kimbrough either. Its nice however any stadium with a track around and a small vistors side does not compute. Now go get your shine box!!;)

Whoa now, We like Clark. It's just, feels like Home!! :D


http://www.etradebabymail.com/?mId=35868875.3


i'm thinking you guys are just ticked off that we didn't get you guys to help pay for our new stadium.



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[dada]

Defend yourselves...lol

http://flavarsity.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=326&tid=133114298&mid=133114298&sid=957&style=2

[ktCarl]

About time..... ;)

http://highschoolsportsblog.dallasnews.com/Allen%20Stadium.jpg

http://highschoolsportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/04/if-drawings-are-any-indication.html


Nice Nice NICE !

[TheScout]

You do know schools make next to nothing for playoff games? Certainly not enough for pay off a stadium.

You are dead wrong on this. I work in the purchasing dept for HEB ISD and my mother is in the accounting office. You'd be REALLY surprised at the revenue Pennington field makes on each playoff game.

They make enough to not keep any of the parking fees. They charge $2 to park and then use the money to make personalized name plates for all the lockers for both teams. they make a killing on concessions and rent.

[Bill4par]

Shhhhh!!! Gaww, you're gonna spoil the secret.

P.S. Did you see the story on channel 8 tonight about the 100,000 sq ft. Cabellas possibly coming to Allen? I'm sure our forward thinking attitude had nothing to do with that. ;)


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This will happen at some point....I am trying to imagine the next Cathederal to HS Football that will be built, what it will look like and where will it be? Denton has a nice palace, Mansfield has a nice palace, Houston? San Antone? Austin area? :eek:

[jesse]

http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=37&f=2684&t=5851036


I can't speak for some places but in Georgia the response to the Allen project is one of admiration that a tip of the hat to doing it 1st class.

[dada]

http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=37&f=2684&t=5851036


I can't speak for some places but in Georgia the response to the Allen project is one of admiration that a tip of the hat to doing it 1st class.

noticed you're in Augusta....military?

[TulsaHale74]

It made USA Today today.

I think everyone can use this link to the online copy of the printed paper.
http://ee.usatoday.com/SUBSCRIBERS/LandingPage/LandingPage.aspx?href=VVNBLzIwMTAvMDQvMTc.&pageno=NA..&entity=QXIwMDQwMA..&view=ZW50aXR5


If not it should be online at USATODAY.com on Monday.(http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/index (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/index))

[jesse]

noticed you're in Augusta....military?

Father was. So some of us planted roots here though. It's 2 and 1/2 hrs to Atlanta, Charlotte, Savannah, or Hilton Head. 2 hrs to Athens Factor in the Masters every year and it ain't bad.Not bad place at all.

[dada]

Father was. So some of us planted roots here though. It's 2 and 1/2 hrs to Atlanta, Charlotte, Savannah, or Hilton Head. 2 hrs to Athens Factor in the Masters every year and it ain't bad.Not bad place at all.

I was stationed there at Ft. Gordon.....love that place

[supercentex]

I was previously critical because of so many endzone seats but I was basing that on the picture in the first post. One of the news channels showed a different view in which the upper deck can be seen on the home side.

I've had time to view the Stadium Update (http://www.allenisd.org/20061061015583133/lib/20061061015583133/Bond%20Project%20Artwork-Files/Stadium%20Update.pdf) package and see the view the news used, field level, and the sections view.

I still think the 18000 seats could have been allocated with more sideline seats and less lowlevel/endzone seats. I think it's a shame that the student seats are all in the endzone.

I have changed on the envy factor though. It's a very nice facility.

They may put the bands in the end zone seating...leaving all the other seats for the fans.

[supercentex]

Students have their own section in one end zone - in a fashion similar to many colleges - to create a wall of sound. The band - the largest in the country with more than 600 members - will be on the other end. There will be a wall of honor for former greats from the program.

[TulsaHale74]

They may put the bands in the end zone seating...leaving all the other seats for the fans.
They may. Bricks and mortar can't be changed easily but a seating plan can. I based my comment on the slide showing the seating plan in the Stadium Update package.

[TulsaHale74]

Students have their own section in one end zone - in a fashion similar to many colleges - to create a wall of sound. The band - the largest in the country with more than 600 members - will be on the other end. There will be a wall of honor for former greats from the program.
Only one end has seating.:confused:

[da hawaiian]

Current Allen stadium is as intimidating a venue as I've ever been. If the endzone seating can maintain the volume of noise they enjoy with the present place, then the endzone seats make perfect sense.

[Bill4par]

Current Allen stadium is as intimidating a venue as I've ever been. If the endzone seating can maintain the volume of noise they enjoy with the present place, then the endzone seats make perfect sense.

You hit the nail on the head. Alot of us "homers" understand that built in value at the double wide...and I for one have a concern that that specific home field advantage will be altered in some way.:eek:

[FWfan]

Too bad Keller doesn't have that vision for THEIR kids.:(

Can't agree with you here. Keller High is the only high school in Keller. The other three in the district are in Fort Worth.

To be correct you should have written "Too bad Fort Worth doesn't have that vision for THEIR kids."

If Keller was a one high school district, then they could spend for their one Keller high school.

Tough to convince Keller voters to support a new stadium used by Fort Worth kids 100% of the time, or a renovated stadium used by Fort Worth kids 75% of the time.

Much easier to operate from a one school district.

VERY nice looking stadium Allen! Might replace my current favorites of Mansfield and Aledo.

[LoboFan07]

We better be invited back in 2012 to play there. That's all I'mma say ;)

[LoboBooster73]

We better be invited back in 2012 to play there. That's all I'mma say ;)

Kinda like a "I'll show you mine, if you show me yours."

[bigdaddydog]

Kinda like a "I'll show you mine, if you show me yours."

You guys are funny!!:notworthy

This will be like the 5A texas football version of Cribs! :D Here is the DMN guy talking to Fox Sports Southwest and they mentioned the stadium at the 1:45 minute mark.

http://www.dallasnews.com/video/dallasnews/highschool_sports/?nvid=413744&shu=1

There must be some kind of good thing going between schools since we are doing our second home & home with you guys. It would be a shame to end it after the 2011 season.


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[allendad]

**** ATTENTION ****

Per AISD

Starting next Monday
school buses will not be parked
over at the HS "Activity Center"
because of construction on the
new stadium and auditorium.

What was that? ! ! ! ! !

I think I heard the backhoes starting
their engines . . . . B A B Y ! ! ! ! !


:heli::heli::heli::heli:



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[Bandnerd1983]

**** ATTENTION ****

Per AISD

Starting next Monday
school buses will not be parked
over at the HS "Activity Center"
because of construction on the
new stadium and auditorium.

What was that? ! ! ! ! !

I think I heard the backhoes starting
their engines . . . . B A B Y ! ! ! ! !


:heli::heli::heli::heli:



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Per Mr. Pennington they are also closing the band hall parking lot, it's one of the staging areas for construction.

[da hawaiian]

I'm so glad this stadium is going thru, and there's nothing a sour puss worried about counting county pennies can do about it.

This will be a stadium all of DFW will take pride in. And we'll all be crossing our fingers we can get a game at the place.

[allendad]

I'm so glad this stadium is going thru, and there's nothing a sour puss worried about counting county pennies can do about it.

This will be a stadium all of DFW will take pride in. And we'll all be crossing our fingers we can get a game at the place.

MAHALO, brahda !



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[AEfan]

Current Allen stadium is as intimidating a venue as I've ever been. If the endzone seating can maintain the volume of noise they enjoy with the present place, then the endzone seats make perfect sense.

BigDaddy is right - they originally were looking at 20K seating, but rolled it back to 18K. Students are located in the end zone to help maintain the feel and sense of intimidation that you find at the current Eagle Stadium. IF you have ever gone to an Eagle game in Allen - you'll see the football team run out of the tunnel and down to the student section. It is pretty cool to see that happen and witness the energy that builds from the team feeding off the student section. The end zone student section is LOUD. Couple this with the million man band and you have a pretty intimidating place to play football. Wasn't it the Dallas Morning News that rated it as one of the MOST INTIMIDATING in the Metroplex? The planners for the new stadium did not want to lose site of that.

So why 18K? They currently sell 2500 season tickets (same as our Lovejoy neighbors who are 3A). With the demand for season tickets (people camp out over night to get the limited 200 or so that open up each year because people hold on to these tickets LOOONGGG after their kiddos graduate) - they could probably sell a total of 5-7K season tickets. Additionally, because the season tickets are sold out AND anyone wanting to go to the game with general admission tickets must sit in the temporary bleachers or on the visitors side, MANY people choose NOT to go to the home game. They do travel to attend the games in Plano, Rockwall, etc. because they can actually get a decent seat and they have a chance to see the game. Have you ever noticed how MANY ALLEN FANS travel to see away games? I'm glad that more people will finally have a chance to see a home game!


I have lived in Allen and have gone to high school football games since 1996... there has been a high demand from the time I moved here and the demand continues.... Can't wait until opening season 2012!

[bigdaddydog]

BigDaddy is right - they originally were looking at 20K seating, but rolled it back to 18K. Students are located in the end zone to help maintain the feel and sense of intimidation that you find at the current Eagle Stadium. IF you have ever gone to an Eagle game in Allen - you'll see the football team run out of the tunnel and down to the student section. It is pretty cool to see that happen and witness the energy that builds from the team feeding off the student section. The end zone student section is LOUD. Couple this with the million man band and you have a pretty intimidating place to play football. Wasn't it the Dallas Morning News that rated it as one of the MOST INTIMIDATING in the Metroplex? The planners for the new stadium did not want to lose site of that.

So why 18K? They currently sell 2500 season tickets (same as our Lovejoy neighbors who are 3A). With the demand for season tickets (people camp out over night to get the limited 200 or so that open up each year because people hold on to these tickets LOOONGGG after their kiddos graduate) - they could probably sell a total of 5-7K season tickets. Additionally, because the season tickets are sold out AND anyone wanting to go to the game with general admission tickets must sit in the temporary bleachers or on the visitors side, MANY people choose NOT to go to the home game. They do travel to attend the games in Plano, Rockwall, etc. because they can actually get a decent seat and they have a chance to see the game. Have you ever noticed how MANY ALLEN FANS travel to see away games? I'm glad that more people will finally have a chance to see a home game!


I have lived in Allen and have gone to high school football games since 1996... there has been a high demand from the time I moved here and the demand continues.... Can't wait until opening season 2012!

That is some great insight and perspective. I'm thinking ahead to what it's going to be like to walk into the place for the first time and what the game atmosphere is going to be like. Wow, I think it is going to be electric!!

It's going to be interesting to see who gets scheduled for the first game and what kind of celebration there is. Maybe we can host the Tom Landry Classic that year??

Thanks for all you've done to champion the effort. You are a true FAN!!:notworthy:heli:


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[bigdaddydog]

P & Z recommends approval...

22' x 40' video display

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4003/4664285873_0524fc4f20_b.jpg




http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4654685403_d9fe4a0a95_b.jpg


Time to move some dirt!!!:D



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[DrEdward]

Is the projected cost of the new Allen Stadium still projected to be approximately $80 million?

[wolfpack4life]

We better be invited back in 2012 to play there. That's all I'mma say ;)
:notworthy

[bigdaddydog]

Is the projected cost of the new Allen Stadium still projected to be approximately $80 million?

Nope, no where near that. Construction cost are way down these days.

Cudos by the way on the Dragon's innovation of marketing and working with Daktronics and getting sponsors to pay for a new video board for Dragon Stadium. If you guys do anything less than the HD-X series I will be dissapointed. :)


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[bigdaddydog]

:notworthy

If Coach Westerberg thinks enough of the Lobos to sign on for a 3rd and 4th year home and home, I don't see why they wouldn't continue the series for a 5th and 6th year.

We'll see. I'm just not sure yet wwhat kind of 1st game they will set up in the new house. It should be packed!


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[DrEdward]

Nope, no where near that. Construction cost are way down these days.

Cudos by the way on the Dragon's innovation of marketing and working with Daktronics and getting sponsors to pay for a new video board for Dragon Stadium. If you guys do anything less than the HD-X series I will be dissapointed. :)


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Thanks. I guess we will find out tonight what we are going to do. The school board has its set this evening for a special meeting and one of the items on the agenda is the new scoreboard.

Glad to know that the cost of your new digs is way down. I was concerned that you guys were sort of getting ripped off on the price, as we discussed just after the initial announcement was made. Then I read where UNT was paying about $70m to $75m and getting a 35,000 seat place and that reminded me of the price you were paying, so I thought I would check. Thanks again.

[allendad]

Thanks. I guess we will find out tonight what we are going to do. The school board has its set this evening for a special meeting and one of the items on the agenda is the new scoreboard.

Glad to know that the cost of your new digs is way down. I was concerned that you guys were sort of getting ripped off on the price, as we discussed just after the initial announcement was made. Then I read where UNT was paying about $70m to $75m and getting a 35,000 seat place and that reminded me of the price you were paying, so I thought I would check. Thanks again.

Doc,

Budgeted stadium expenses were set at 59.6 Million.

From what I have been hearing from the Board . . . . .
the project should come in several millions below projection.

This place is going to be the diamond of north Texas ! ! ! !


Now, if we could only beat Plain-o . . . . . .
our lives would be complete.;)

GO CATS IN 2010 ! ! ! !

[DrEdward]

Doc,

Budgeted stadium expenses were set at 59.6 Million.

From what I have been hearing from the Board . . . . .
the project should come in several millions below projection.

This place is going to be the diamond of north Texas ! ! ! !


Now, if we could only beat Plain-o . . . . . .
our lives would be complete.;)

GO CATS IN 2010 ! ! ! !


Thanks again. I was in no way being crtical of the place; it does look fantastic. By the way, as long as I'm at it, the photo on the illustrative board above is decidedly not of the Panthers and the Eagles. :D

[DrEdward]

Nope, no where near that. Construction cost are way down these days.

Cudos by the way on the Dragon's innovation of marketing and working with Daktronics and getting sponsors to pay for a new video board for Dragon Stadium. If you guys do anything less than the HD-X series I will be dissapointed. :)


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Sorry to disappoint you, but the video board will not be the HD-X model. However, whatever inferior technology it might be :rolleyes:, it should be in place by September 1st of this year.

[ktCarl]

P & Z recommends approval...

22' x 40' video display

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4003/4664285873_0524fc4f20_b.jpg




http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4654685403_d9fe4a0a95_b.jpg


Time to move some dirt!!!:D



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Is that a giant mosquito beneath the word Partner below and to the left of the time on the scoreboard?

I hope this stadium isn't what's to come for all 5A future stadiums. It's too expensive. KISD needs another stadium so we can get back to having Friday night football so I hope a new stadium down here isn't any bigger and better than Rhodes.

[bigdaddydog]

Sorry to disappoint you, but the video board will not be the HD-X model. However, whatever inferior technology it might be :rolleyes:, it should be in place by September 1st of this year.

So I hear. Looks like it will be the same size as the one we are putting in so it's probably the same technology level. 22' X 40' is a standard size. Nice none the less. Not sure if it's a similar configuration, but our pictures should give folks an idea of what you guys are getting. :heli:

Yeah, Panthers... That's what happens when architects don't know what they are doing. Seriously, let's hope that is the biggest mistake they make!!:rolleyes::D


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[farmerfan]

Is that a giant mosquito beneath the word Partner below and to the left of the time on the scoreboard?

I hope this stadium isn't what's to come for all 5A future stadiums. It's too expensive. KISD needs another stadium so we can get back to having Friday night football so I hope a new stadium down here isn't any bigger and better than Rhodes.

I don't think that is the case at all. Lewisville has just built their 5th stadium. It's simple, ugly and definitely not a jewel. I would think Katy might add something nicer than Rhodes but not by much. THat is if they do build a new stadium

[bigdaddydog]

Is that a giant mosquito beneath the word Partner below and to the left of the time on the scoreboard?

I hope this stadium isn't what's to come for all 5A future stadiums. It's too expensive. KISD needs another stadium so we can get back to having Friday night football so I hope a new stadium down here isn't any bigger and better than Rhodes.

Didn't think anyone would notice. :o That poor sucker landed on the scanner and I just couldn't resist smacking the lid on it.

I know, all God's creatures...:)

I'm sure you guys will be fine on the stadium situation. You have to appreciate the years and years of wandering through the waste land of stadium hell we have had to endure to now see the glistening city on the hill.:D



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[FeeltheHaka]

Congrats Allen!

Looks beautiful, and much needed!

In my opinion, building a stadium like this is a genius move from a business and local politics standpoint. I know Pennington Stadium (Where Euless Trinity and L.D. Bell plays) makes some good money for the area. It seems every time I drive by there, there is something going on. Even the parking lot is utilized for Motorcycle safety courses, remote control car tournaments, etc. The local businesses benefit.

We need to remember the amount of students, and the size of the of the band at Allen. Look at what that stadium in Frisco is doing! That place seems to get used for all kinds of things.

In this economy, Like someone said; Construction costs are low, and people are looking for cheaper entertainment. Also, Texas High Football is increasing in popularity like crazy. I'm sure the new stadium will attract a lot of different type of events as well. I don't know why more cities don't build something like this? Or even multiple cities getting together to build one.

[Bill4par]

Man, it's off season and I am bored as heck, so for grinns if nothing else, here is a extremely unofficial poll....
Which team would you like to see Open Allen's new Eagle Palace? My personal vote is for SLC, gotta beat some time.

SLC
ET
Katy
Abilene
Cedar Hill

[DrEdward]

Man, it's off season and I am bored as heck, so for grinns if nothing else, here is a extremely unofficial poll....

Which team would you like to see Open Allen's new Eagle Palace? My personal vote is for SLC, gotta beat some time.

SLC
ET
Katy
Abilene
Cedar Hill



Why not? Carroll's image is already on their board illustration as shown in the thread. ;)