The times are changing- private schools rule

[johnnywkrp]

I hope all of you noticed that the two Jesuit schools are playing each other for the 5A State Championship in soccer this weekend. This is just a small glimpse of the future. Jesuit basketball was 1 point away from going to state. We have had individual winners in swimming and golf. Let me tell you, it will not be long until football will be the same way. We are going to dominate sports in Texas!!! Our freshman football team was undefeated including wins over Allen, Plano schools, Coppell etc... With all of our financial aid that we have to give to "deserving" students and the whole world in which to draw students, I will let you draw your own conclusions as to what the future looks like. Superior academics, superior athletics, loads of financial aid, upgraded facilities,sounds like a winning combination to me. Let the whining and crying begin .... cause the future is clear. If you have an athletic son that wants to win championships, come home to Jesuit

[twcpfan1]

I hope all of you noticed that the two Jesuit schools are playing each other for the 5A State Championship in soccer this weekend. This is just a small glimpse of the future. Jesuit basketball was 1 point away from going to state. We have had individual winners in swimming and golf. Let me tell you, it will not be long until football will be the same way. We are going to dominate sports in Texas!!! Our freshman football team was undefeated including wins over Allen, Plano schools, Coppell etc... With all of our financial aid that we have to give to "deserving" students and the whole world in which to draw students, I will let you draw your own conclusions as to what the future looks like. Superior academics, superior athletics, loads of financial aid, upgraded facilities,sounds like a winning combination to me. Let the whining and crying begin .... cause the future is clear. If you have an athletic son that wants to win championships, come home to Jesuit

Strake's in a pretty crappy area. Although there's some really good Asian food within short walking distance if you're brave enough to walk in that neighborhood. So I totally would if you relocate, except I don't have any sons, let alone athletic ones.

[farmerfan]

Good to have you back Johnny:heli:

[gunnyman]

I hope all of you noticed that the two Jesuit schools are playing each other for the 5A State Championship in soccer this weekend. This is just a small glimpse of the future. Jesuit basketball was 1 point away from going to state. We have had individual winners in swimming and golf. Let me tell you, it will not be long until football will be the same way. We are going to dominate sports in Texas!!! Our freshman football team was undefeated including wins over Allen, Plano schools, Coppell etc... With all of our financial aid that we have to give to "deserving" students and the whole world in which to draw students, I will let you draw your own conclusions as to what the future looks like. Superior academics, superior athletics, loads of financial aid, upgraded facilities,sounds like a winning combination to me. Let the whining and crying begin .... cause the future is clear. If you have an athletic son that wants to win championships, come home to Jesuit Soccer is a long way from football. Keep dreaming!

[Montana79]

I hope all of you noticed that the two Jesuit schools are playing each other for the 5A State Championship in soccer this weekend. This is just a small glimpse of the future. Jesuit basketball was 1 point away from going to state. We have had individual winners in swimming and golf. Let me tell you, it will not be long until football will be the same way. We are going to dominate sports in Texas!!! Our freshman football team was undefeated including wins over Allen, Plano schools, Coppell etc... With all of our financial aid that we have to give to "deserving" students and the whole world in which to draw students, I will let you draw your own conclusions as to what the future looks like. Superior academics, superior athletics, loads of financial aid, upgraded facilities,sounds like a winning combination to me. Let the whining and crying begin .... cause the future is clear. If you have an athletic son that wants to win championships, come home to Jesuit

You might wanna tap the brakes on such proclamations. Jesuit does have a great class of freshmen this year. I've seen their basketball team and I don't think they had a close game. As for 9th grade football, I didn't see much substituting going on from Jesuit in the Coppell game while Coppell substituted very liberally. Coppell wins that game going away if the starters had played the same amount as Jesuit. I'll agree with you when it comes to soccer, which I know nothing about. But football, let's not get carried away.

[caesarscott]

scholarships for high school sports. yea!!!

[AHSeagles]

I think Johnny has had one too many drinks at one of those fabled "Jesuit alumni parties with free alcohol.":rofl:

[F18mustang]

Whatever makes this guy sleep at night.


:rofl:

[ktCarl]

Me thinks this was a good trolling adventure by johnnywkrp. :rolleyes:

[Pearland1]

I hope all of you noticed that the two Jesuit schools are playing each other for the 5A State Championship in soccer this weekend. This is just a small glimpse of the future. Jesuit basketball was 1 point away from going to state. We have had individual winners in swimming and golf. Let me tell you, it will not be long until football will be the same way. We are going to dominate sports in Texas!!! Our freshman football team was undefeated including wins over Allen, Plano schools, Coppell etc... With all of our financial aid that we have to give to "deserving" students and the whole world in which to draw students, I will let you draw your own conclusions as to what the future looks like. Superior academics, superior athletics, loads of financial aid, upgraded facilities,sounds like a winning combination to me. Let the whining and crying begin .... cause the future is clear. If you have an athletic son that wants to win championships, come home to Jesuit

or Katy High:)

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

I have to call B S on johnnywkrp's proclamation.

[owlfan 1]

good luck to dallas jesuit... bring that title back to DFW!

[Fleeman93]

I think what he said is way over the top AS OF NOW but if we see more privates get into the UIL then someday I don't think it will be too far fetched. I think the best the current system, as we know it now, can hope for is that no other privates get into the UIL and the UIL keeps their foot on the the throats of the two that are currently in. Why would anyone think that Texas wouldn't turn into any other state that mixes publics and privates with enough time?

[twcpfan1]

I think what he said is way over the top AS OF NOW but if we see more privates get into the UIL then someday I don't think it will be too far fetched. I think the best the current system, as we know it now, can hope for is that no other privates get into the UIL and the UIL keeps their foot on the the throats of the two that are currently in. Why would anyone think that Texas wouldn't turn into any other state that mixes publics and privates with enough time?

Catholics in Texas are poor.

[xray10]

pearland1 said....

or Katy High:)

i wonder where p-land gets their atheleteteles fraammm.

[johnnywkrp]

I think what he said is way over the top AS OF NOW but if we see more privates get into the UIL then someday I don't think it will be too far fetched. I think the best the current system, as we know it now, can hope for is that no other privates get into the UIL and the UIL keeps their foot on the the throats of the two that are currently in. Why would anyone think that Texas wouldn't turn into any other state that mixes publics and privates with enough time?

You are correct it will be just like other states where privates schools win most of the state championships.The quality of athletes coming to Jesuit is getting better every year. We have money facilities, great education, and no boudaries, I am not trolling or bragging just stating the facts.

[F18mustang]

You are correct it will be just like other states where privates schools win most of the state championships.The quality of athletes coming to Jesuit is getting better every year. We have money facilities, great education, and no boudaries, I am not trolling or bragging just stating the facts.

You can have your own opinions but not your own facts.

[AHSeagles]

You are correct it will be just like other states where privates schools win most of the state championships.The quality of athletes coming to Jesuit is getting better every year. We have money facilities, great education, and no boudaries, I am not trolling or bragging just stating the facts.

Y'all should hire a better recruiter, he's been failing miserably. :rofl:

[abileneeagles311]

You are correct it will be just like other states where privates schools win most of the state championships.The quality of athletes coming to Jesuit is getting better every year. We have money facilities, great education, and no boudaries, I am not trolling or bragging just stating the facts.
slc has those things too

[The Wet Mustard]

You are correct it will be just like other states where privates schools win most of the state championships.The quality of athletes coming to Jesuit is getting better every year. We have money facilities, great education, and no boudaries, I am not trolling or bragging just stating the facts.

Its funny because your school is so "dominant" yet Strake Jesuit is not even in the top ten of lonestar cup. Yet two teams from their new district are.... Hmm looks like you may not even be the best overall in your district

[farmerfan]

JohhnyWKRP, you are the man :notworthy

[5ASports]

Its funny because your school is so "dominant" yet Strake Jesuit is not even in the top ten of lonestar cup. Yet two teams from their new district are.... Hmm looks like you may not even be the best overall in your district
CLARIFICATION: johnnywkrp is a delusional and abrasively obnoxious DALLAS Jesuit Ranger. I have not met any Strake Jesuit Crusaders as ignorant as him. His posts are ridiculous but usually worth a good laugh.

[grayowl60]

You are correct it will be just like other states where privates schools win most of the state championships.The quality of athletes coming to Jesuit is getting better every year. We have money facilities, great education, and no boudaries, I am not trolling or bragging just stating the facts.
Hmmm... you also have Skyline, Lake Highlands and Berkner ramming at the door. Maybe yall need to get back into the Bishop Lynch game scheduling tradition and be a powerhouse again like your haughty nieghbors to the south have done. Add to that w-l record:notworthy

[slorch]

I hope all of you noticed that the two Jesuit schools are playing each other for the 5A State Championship in soccer this weekend. This is just a small glimpse of the future. Jesuit basketball was 1 point away from going to state. We have had individual winners in swimming and golf. Let me tell you, it will not be long until football will be the same way. We are going to dominate sports in Texas!!! Our freshman football team was undefeated including wins over Allen, Plano schools, Coppell etc... With all of our financial aid that we have to give to "deserving" students and the whole world in which to draw students, I will let you draw your own conclusions as to what the future looks like. Superior academics, superior athletics, loads of financial aid, upgraded facilities,sounds like a winning combination to me. Let the whining and crying begin .... cause the future is clear. If you have an athletic son that wants to win championships, come home to Jesuit

the best team in any team sport in Texas( and possible the country) this season was a public school from inner city Houston.

Soccer is cool in high school, but it's still not on the level with football, basketball, track, or baseball.

You've been on here trolling for support of the private school athletic programs. Texas is fine the way it is, bro. Go try North Dakota or something...

[RangerFan]

Congrats to Dallas Jesuit, to their great coach & to their team. According to many, this what not Jesuit's most talented team but a great defensive team that played well together. Sometimes, it works better with no "stars" but lots of good players.

I am 100% certain Johnnywkrp is not a Jesuit alum. If he is, I want my tuition money back because he's an idiot.

The irony of all the recruiting, athletic scholarships, unfair advantage talk is that what does go on at some public and private schools in this state does not go on at Jesuit. Jesuit's athletic facilities do not compare to some of the suburban schools out there and, even when they do fix them up, they still won't match these others. Jesuit does not recruit athletes, and anyone who comes to game would see that. They have good players, but they are not a hotbed for 1A colleges in any sport. Jesuit doesn't give athletic scholarships. In fact, they have lost out on many stud athletes who assumed they would get to go for free. Yes, a boy can go to Jesuit even if he doesn't live in the attendance zone, but he had better be very smart. And, lots of stud athletes have moved over the years to attend schools such as HP, SL Carroll, and Allen. Anyone who has been around and pays attention knows this happens at public schools all the time.

As for the Lone Star Cup points, don't forget that Jesuit has no girl sports, so their point total in any all-sports competition is not equal to other sports. When you look at just the boys side, Jesuit always does well. And, if you add the non-UIL sports such as lacrosse, rugby, hockey, and crew, Jesuit does even better. Jesuit does well in minor sports because they don't over-emphasize any one sport. many football players play multiple sports, and they don't attend off-season fb until their other sport ends. In this state, this is not the norm. Unless it has changed, Jesuit's football team gives up their locker room every winter so lacrosse can use it. I am 100% certain this ain't happening at other UIL 5A schools.

[farmerfan]

And, lots of stud athletes have moved over the years to attend schools such as HP, SL Carroll, and Allen. Anyone who has been around and pays attention knows this happens at public schools all the time.



How dare you even suggest that kids move into those schools for athletic reasons. Please, get over yourself and come back when you have 100% proof that is what is going on.
How dare you also say it happens all the time. THe Texas UIL would never ever let that happen.

[Pearland1]

How dare you even suggest that kids move into those schools for athletic reasons. Please, get over yourself and come back when you have 100% proof that is what is going on.
How dare you also say it happens all the time. THe Texas UIL would never ever let that happen.


UIL can not control families moving for athletic reason. If you find a house for sale or rent that is all it takes.

[85Roughneck]

UIL can not control families moving for athletic reason. If you find a house for sale or rent that is all it takes.dude, spit that hook out.

[chapfootball123]

How dare you even suggest that kids move into those schools for athletic reasons. Please, get over yourself and come back when you have 100% proof that is what is going on.
How dare you also say it happens all the time. THe Texas UIL would never ever let that happen.

:rofl::yes::heli::notworthy

[Fleeman93]

Congrats to Dallas Jesuit, to their great coach & to their team. According to many, this what not Jesuit's most talented team but a great defensive team that played well together. Sometimes, it works better with no "stars" but lots of good players.

I am 100% certain Johnnywkrp is not a Jesuit alum. If he is, I want my tuition money back because he's an idiot.

The irony of all the recruiting, athletic scholarships, unfair advantage talk is that what does go on at some public and private schools in this state does not go on at Jesuit. Jesuit's athletic facilities do not compare to some of the suburban schools out there and, even when they do fix them up, they still won't match these others. Jesuit does not recruit athletes, and anyone who comes to game would see that. They have good players, but they are not a hotbed for 1A colleges in any sport. Jesuit doesn't give athletic scholarships. In fact, they have lost out on many stud athletes who assumed they would get to go for free. Yes, a boy can go to Jesuit even if he doesn't live in the attendance zone, but he had better be very smart. And, lots of stud athletes have moved over the years to attend schools such as HP, SL Carroll, and Allen. Anyone who has been around and pays attention knows this happens at public schools all the time.

As for the Lone Star Cup points, don't forget that Jesuit has no girl sports, so their point total in any all-sports competition is not equal to other sports. When you look at just the boys side, Jesuit always does well. And, if you add the non-UIL sports such as lacrosse, rugby, hockey, and crew, Jesuit does even better. Jesuit does well in minor sports because they don't over-emphasize any one sport. many football players play multiple sports, and they don't attend off-season fb until their other sport ends. In this state, this is not the norm. Unless it has changed, Jesuit's football team gives up their locker room every winter so lacrosse can use it. I am 100% certain this ain't happening at other UIL 5A schools.

A very well respected member of this board said he had direct first hand knowledge that the jesuits of Houston did in fact attempt to recruit a player. I respect this person's football knowledge and passion for the game as much if not more than anyone that posts on this site. Anyone else can take it for what it is worth but it is certainly enough for me.

[jimmycrackcorn]

UIL can not control families moving for athletic reason. If you find a house for sale or rent that is all it takes.

If this happens then the student goes to a district review board in which case he usually has to sit out a year from playing varsity sports. This happened a few years ago with Terrence Robinson from Klein Oak who transferred there from spring after his sophmore season. He then had to sit out his junior year.

[thptrek]

Every student at Strake Jesuit is "recruited." You have to apply for admission and then be accepted. It is a very academically challenging school that is not for everyone.

The success of Strake athletes comes from hard work, dedication, great coaching and a strong desire of each athlete to get better every day. The same attributes that make Katy, CR, Memorial, etc successful too.

[5ASports]

If this happens then the student goes to a district review board in which case he usually has to sit out a year from playing varsity sports. This happened a few years ago with Terrence Robinson from Klein Oak who transferred there from spring after his sophmore season. He then had to sit out his junior year.
Actually not. This question came-up on another thread because of the numerous varsity athletes transferring right now, and there is yet to be one disapproved for play next season. The general guideline is that if the coach from the donor school signs-off on the transfer, then the transfer "review" doesn't go any further than that.

[5ASports]

A very well respected member of this board said he had direct first hand knowledge that the jesuits of Houston did in fact attempt to recruit a player. I respect this person's football knowledge and passion for the game as much if not more than anyone that posts on this site. Anyone else can take it for what it is worth but it is certainly enough for me.
That's sillyness. "...it must be true because someone said so. Oh and they really really know it's true and we all feel strongly about the Jesuit's recruiting, BUT we didn't want to report this incident to the UIL...":rolleyes:

[Fleeman93]

That's sillyness. "...it must be true because someone said so. Oh and they really really know it's true and we all feel strongly about the Jesuit's recruiting, BUT we didn't want to report this incident to the UIL...":rolleyes:

As I said, I don't need you to believe it for me to. Wasn't this poster's responsibility to report it to the UIL and as I understand it the family of the player that was recruited has ties to the Houston jesuits so they didn't want to give them a black eye. Again, I have ZERO doubt that this happened and that is good enough for me.

[ray1301]

Actually not. This question came-up on another thread because of the numerous varsity athletes transferring right now, and there is yet to be one disapproved for play next season. The general guideline is that if the coach from the donor school signs-off on the transfer, then the transfer "review" doesn't go any further than that.

This is generally true. My oldest daughter was attending Sealy HS and she wanted to transfer to Faith West in Katy. She had friends there and she also had some personal reasons to want to go to shcool at FW. They had better academics then SHS. She also happen to be one heck of a catcher in Softball.

The AD at SHS at the time was TJ Mills. He wouldn't sign the release for whatever reason. We met with him and asked "Did he really want the UIL to get involved and scrutinize this situation therefore bringing his program also under scrutinization?" He signed the waiver the following day and that was that.

I know that some privates do not offer atheletic scholarships. But they sure as heck offer academic scholarships.

[Wypirates03]

I'm not trying to fuel the fire, but I found something one of the future first rounders said this morning on ESPN.

When asked about who the better football player is in the family, he said "My brother. He's 14 and already being recruited by several high schools."

I'm assuming that since the player who was doing the interview was a Florida player and he seemed pretty loyal to the Gators (recruited as a QB, moved to WR, then eventually tried out and started as a cornerback) he has Florida roots.

Anyways. The reason I bring this up is because everyone says there's no recruiting at their school. Then some nincompoop goes on the air and openly says that his brother is being recruited by several high schools...

Hrm.

[johnnywkrp]

Hmmm... you also have Skyline, Lake Highlands and Berkner ramming at the door. Maybe yall need to get back into the Bishop Lynch game scheduling tradition and be a powerhouse again like your haughty nieghbors to the south have done. Add to that w-l record:notworthy

-You have some kind of thing about Bishop Lynch. We would beat Garland in every sport.

[johnnywkrp]

Congrats to Dallas Jesuit, to their great coach & to their team. According to many, this what not Jesuit's most talented team but a great defensive team that played well together. Sometimes, it works better with no "stars" but lots of good players.

I am 100% certain Johnnywkrp is not a Jesuit alum. If he is, I want my tuition money back because he's an idiot.

The irony of all the recruiting, athletic scholarships, unfair advantage talk is that what does go on at some public and private schools in this state does not go on at Jesuit. Jesuit's athletic facilities do not compare to some of the suburban schools out there and, even when they do fix them up, they still won't match these others. Jesuit does not recruit athletes, and anyone who comes to game would see that. They have good players, but they are not a hotbed for 1A colleges in any sport. Jesuit doesn't give athletic scholarships. In fact, they have lost out on many stud athletes who assumed they would get to go for free. Yes, a boy can go to Jesuit even if he doesn't live in the attendance zone, but he had better be very smart. And, lots of stud athletes have moved over the years to attend schools such as HP, SL Carroll, and Allen. Anyone who has been around and pays attention knows this happens at public schools all the time.

As for the Lone Star Cup points, don't forget that Jesuit has no girl sports, so their point total in any all-sports competition is not equal to other sports. When you look at just the boys side, Jesuit always does well. And, if you add the non-UIL sports such as lacrosse, rugby, hockey, and crew, Jesuit does even better. Jesuit does well in minor sports because they don't over-emphasize any one sport. many football players play multiple sports, and they don't attend off-season fb until their other sport ends. In this state, this is not the norm. Unless it has changed, Jesuit's football team gives up their locker room every winter so lacrosse can use it. I am 100% certain this ain't happening at other UIL 5A schools.

You are not a real Jesuit supporter just a parent wannabe. I bet your son is on the fencing team and the debate team. You know nothing about Jesuit athletics. I bet you don't even go to the Alumni homercoming beer bash!

[johnnywkrp]

This is generally true. My oldest daughter was attending Sealy HS and she wanted to transfer to Faith West in Katy. She had friends there and she also had some personal reasons to want to go to shcool at FW. They had better academics then SHS. She also happen to be one heck of a catcher in Softball.

The AD at SHS at the time was TJ Mills. He wouldn't sign the release for whatever reason. We met with him and asked "Did he really want the UIL to get involved and scrutinize this situation therefore bringing his program also under scrutinization?" He signed the waiver the following day and that was that.

I know that some privates do not offer atheletic scholarships. But they sure as heck offer academic scholarships.
And Jesuit offers financial aid scholarships which is where we are going to build our football team in the future. And let me tell you one more thing ,no matter how much Ranger fan brags, you don't have to be that smart to go to Jesuit, just a good athlete of have rich parents. Now at St. Marks, you have to be smart. Jesuit is a jock school not an academic school.

[johnnywkrp]

the best team in any team sport in Texas( and possible the country) this season was a public school from inner city Houston.

Soccer is cool in high school, but it's still not on the level with football, basketball, track, or baseball.

You've been on here trolling for support of the private school athletic programs. Texas is fine the way it is, bro. Go try North Dakota or something...

You will think fine when we start kicking public schools. Not a threat just a promise.

[johnnywkrp]

A very well respected member of this board said he had direct first hand knowledge that the jesuits of Houston did in fact attempt to recruit a player. I respect this person's football knowledge and passion for the game as much if not more than anyone that posts on this site. Anyone else can take it for what it is worth but it is certainly enough for me.
When are these idiots going to wake up, of course the Jesuit schools recruit, we just do it subtly, quietly, and thru parents. Which is why I said the times are a changing

[AHSeagles]

This is the funniest the board has been since Rapture and Scottie were around. :rofl:

[farmerfan]

And Jesuit offers financial aid scholarships which is where we are going to build our football team in the future. And let me tell you one more thing ,no matter how much Ranger fan brags, you don't have to be that smart to go to Jesuit, just a good athlete of have rich parents. Now at St. Marks, you have to be smart. Jesuit is a jock school not an academic school.

LOL

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

Gosh I love you man

[abileneeagles311]

When are these idiots going to wake up, of course the Jesuit schools recruit, we just do it subtly, quietly, and thru parents. Which is why I said the times are a changing
from what it looks like, jesuit hasn't recruited very well lately... at least in football

[ray1301]

from what it looks like, jesuit hasn't recruited very well lately... at least in football

BOOM!:yes:

[Pearland1]

And Jesuit offers financial aid scholarships which is where we are going to build our football team in the future. And let me tell you one more thing ,no matter how much Ranger fan brags, you don't have to be that smart to go to Jesuit, just a good athlete of have rich parents. Now at St. Marks, you have to be smart. Jesuit is a jock school not an academic school.


This guy is not a Jesuit.

[CoppellCowboy57]

Dear Dallas Jesuit,

Shut up, nobuddy cares...See y'all at Buddy Echoles Field on Sept 10 for Coppells home coming...bring some Highland Park friends too, just cause I dont like them either.

See you soon,

CC57

[Trojanalum693]

I hope all of you noticed that the two Jesuit schools are playing each other for the 5A State Championship in soccer this weekend. This is just a small glimpse of the future. Jesuit basketball was 1 point away from going to state. We have had individual winners in swimming and golf. Let me tell you, it will not be long until football will be the same way. We are going to dominate sports in Texas!!! Our freshman football team was undefeated including wins over Allen, Plano schools, Coppell etc... With all of our financial aid that we have to give to "deserving" students and the whole world in which to draw students, I will let you draw your own conclusions as to what the future looks like. Superior academics, superior athletics, loads of financial aid, upgraded facilities,sounds like a winning combination to me. Let the whining and crying begin .... cause the future is clear. If you have an athletic son that wants to win championships, come home to Jesuit


I'm sorry but I don't see Jesuit winning a state championship in football anytime soon. I like Jesuit but they aint gonna win state. Basketball maybe. Football no. They will make the playoffs but won't get very deep.

[Trojanalum693]

When are these idiots going to wake up, of course the Jesuit schools recruit, we just do it subtly, quietly, and thru parents. Which is why I said the times are a changing


Don't you think UIL would catch on after a bunch of great football players enroll at Jesuit? They will do something about it.

[E-Vol-ution]

This is as far fetched as me stepping in dog crap on a sunny day.:D
(Maybe once in a looooooooooooooooong time):eek: