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KT1ss24
02-19-2006, 03:45 PM
Im just sittin here trying to think of a good thread so why not find out who ppl think is the most dominant texas high school football player of all time.

Vince Young-if you havent seen him in highlight videos or something like that, just imagine every game being as dominant as the 2 rosebowls he played in

Kenneth Hall-i know, i know, long long time ago but his stats are amazing. 11,000+ rushing yds in usually only 12 games a year, and how many other players dominated as a freshmen like he did

Cedric Benson-he did some pretty amazing things in his 3 years, probably would have broke K.Halls record if he played his freshmen year also, and he never ran better then a 4.6

Chase Daniel-come on i had to put him on here, out of 3 years only lost once. fast, shifty, and could play any skill position and still be all state(maybe) could lead his team as well as vince, and oh ya, did any one notice that missouri played better when he was on the field not B.Smith??

dragonsdaddy
02-19-2006, 04:06 PM
Im just sittin here trying to think of a good thread so why not find out who ppl think is the most dominant texas high school football player of all time.

Vince Young-if you havent seen him in highlight videos or something like that, just imagine every game being as dominant as the 2 rosebowls he played in

Kenneth Hall-i know, i know, long long time ago but his stats are amazing. 11,000+ rushing yds in usually only 12 games a year, and how many other players dominated as a freshmen like he did

Cedric Benson-he did some pretty amazing things in his 3 years, probably would have broke K.Halls record if he played his freshmen year also, and he never ran better then a 4.6

Chase Daniel-come on i had to put him on here, out of 3 years only lost once. fast, shifty, and could play any skill position and still be all state(maybe) could lead his team as well as vince, and oh ya, did any one notice that missouri played better when he was on the field not B.Smith??
earl campbell was absolutely the most dominant player i've ever seen, at every level, but mostly in hs. he was a true man among boys.

slorch
02-19-2006, 04:14 PM
not 5a, but Rodney Thomas was unstoppable with groveton.
Also Charlie Lott from Electra(2A) took them to their only state football championship in school history in the '80s. Flunked out of Tech, but was an Eric Dickerson type of back. Very tough runner.

KT2000
02-19-2006, 04:35 PM
Derrick Johnson (Waco) is the most dominant high school defender I've seen.

Texasfrog
02-19-2006, 04:42 PM
Katy2000.. I saw Derrick Johnson play against Pflugerville in the playoffs his senior year. He was a dang "lightening bolt" all over the field. He made a couple of tackles where he looked like a "bullet" moving across the field. He was dominate.

It's a tough question. I would have to say in recent times (last 10 years) that Cedric Benson was the most dominate player I saw in person. But, he also has a very strong supporting cast on those Midland Lee teams. Probably some of the best (O-line players) I've seen along with some Katy teams.

Overall.. I got to see Thurman Thomas play in the 4A semi-finals against Bay City. Two dominate players on the field that day (Thurman Thomas & Hart Lee Dykes).

Texasfrog
02-19-2006, 04:47 PM
earl campbell was absolutely the most dominant player i've ever seen, at every level, but mostly in hs. he was a true man among boys.

I never got to see Earl Campbell play HS football because I was a pretty much a baby. But, I got to see some highlite film of him when he was at John Tyler and he was like you say, " Man among little boys." He was a beast !!!!

Still my favorite football player of all-time. I remember watching a MNF game and the Oilers were playing St.Louis and Earl Campbell ran like a "blast" play over the guard and hit the MLB right in the chest and "blew him up !!" That MLB was lifted about 3 feet off the field and 10 yards backwards and then Earl pretty much ran right over him into the endzone.:D I'll never forget that run ever.

dragonsdaddy
02-19-2006, 04:56 PM
I never got to see Earl Campbell play HS football because I was a pretty much a baby. But, I got to see some highlite film of him when he was at John Tyler and he was like you say, " Man among little boys." He was a beast !!!!

Still my favorite football player of all-time. I remember watching a MNF game and the Oilers were playing St.Louis and Earl Campbell ran like a "blast" play over the guard and hit the MLB right in the chest and "blew him up !!" That MLB was lifted about 3 feet off the field and 10 yards backwards and then Earl pretty much ran right over him into the endzone.:D I'll never forget that run ever.
there are lots of mlbs with his cleat marks on the chests. the plano mlb said had never seen anything like it.

YuccaRoot
02-19-2006, 05:29 PM
As a former Tylerite...I have to go with Earl Campbell (UT, Oilers, and Saints).

At the small school level, I would select the late David Overstreet (OU and Miami Dolphins) from Big Sandy.

Big Daddy Cool
02-19-2006, 08:53 PM
As far as being the most dominant player I've seen that would be hands down Vince Young. The performance he put on against North Shore in 01' was out of this world. I knew then that he would go on to be everything he was at Teaxs and will be hopefully as a Houston Texan.

As for the most dominant team i have ever seen and don't mean to sound biased here but it would have to be the 03' North Shore team. They may not have had the big names but what they had was a unti that was without a doubt on the same page the entire season. And I truely believe the only team tht could have stopped that offense was our defense and even then I be tit would be a hell of a game.

BigArab
02-19-2006, 10:03 PM
Reggie McNeal's systematic comeback in the state game was impressive to say the least.

DaMan
02-19-2006, 10:30 PM
Without a doubt Vince Young is the best I've ever seen. Another one to add to the list is Kendal Briles. He dominated games in high school.
Most dominant defender I saw was Melvin Foster of Yates. Wow, what a team and what a defense.

HUM398
02-19-2006, 10:40 PM
Leo mills was impressive


But most Dominant is In-VINCE-able

Miss Kitty
02-19-2006, 10:50 PM
I have always said Vince Young is the best overall HS player I have ever seen. I will never forget watching him play. Would have loved to not be playing against him but it will always be an impression in my mind.

I also think Will "the Thrill" Thompson. He is so much fun to watch. His size does not dominite, but his playing and his heart sure do.

brad@sunshinepreps
02-19-2006, 11:38 PM
We I saw Adrien Peterson play his SR year I could only imagine what the kids playing against Earl Campbell must have been thinking. Remember to that Peterson had no one around him at Palestine. Vince Y had Cortney Lewis a D-1 RB in the same same back field with him. I like VY better because he stayed in state to play his College football, But the best I have seen in Person was Peterson. I have only seen Vince's highlights never went to a game of his in HS. On Def- D. Johnson is second to none in the state, With Serigo Kindle a very close Second and he was playing both ways all game so if he was rested on DEF the entire game whos to say he was not as Dominant as DJ. Im sure guys like K. Hall and E. Campbell may have been better, But I was not around to see them play HS football, so I am going to only talk about the guys I have seen.

Texasfrog
02-19-2006, 11:59 PM
Damn... how easy I forget. I'm one of the lucky few to see Vince Young & Madison play against North Shore in the Astrodome his senior year. That was a heck of game that ended up being like 60-58. Vince Young was indeed a " Man among boys" in that game. There was tons of talent on the field that day with Madison & North Shore.

Vince Young gets my nod for the most dominate Texas HS player I've seen in person.

Ced Benson & Thurman Thomas running 2nd.

Kid that ended up being the biggest bust that I've seen in person. 3A' Cuero's- Robert Strait. He was suppose to be this huge phenom RB that ended up doing nothing. He was a pretty big load in H.S. though. He was just big and powerful at about (6-1/230/4.4) type of kid.

TrojanHorse03
02-20-2006, 01:25 AM
I'm not saying he's the most dominant because the team success should be a component in determining this as well. And plus people don't take as well to very recent entries. But I think Sergio Kindle is worth an honarable mention for this because he was 1st team all-state caliber on both sides of the ball, which is unique even among the good players that have already been mentioned.

drgnbkr
02-20-2006, 09:01 AM
I'm not saying he's the most dominant because the team success should be a component in determining this as well. And plus people don't take as well to very recent entries. But I think Sergio Kindle is worth an honarable mention for this because he was 1st team all-state caliber on both sides of the ball, which is unique even among the good players that have already been mentioned.

I agree, I wish I had made the effort to go see him play, but I'm sure we'll all get plenty more chances on Saturdays, and maybe on Sundays in the future!

bubbacoach
02-20-2006, 09:47 AM
None of you guys probably ever saw him play in High School because it was at the 3a level, but Dat Nguyen was a man amongst boys. I have his high school highlight video at home and my oh my, that dude was a man child. He made play after play about 3 to 4 yards deep. He made opposing teams running backs refuse to go into games.

WestlandTiger'95
02-23-2006, 06:18 PM
iwas talking about this subject with Former Katy head coach mike johnston a couple of year ago(not long after VY beat katy) and he said that in his life he had seen three HS athletes that were men amongst boys on the gridiron...

Earl Cambell
Gerald Moore (yates 92- univ. of OKl. - St. louis Rams)
Vince Young


many people forget about Gerald moore... but he ran so much like earl cambell it is uncanny. I saw Gerald in on of the most dominating RB performances of my life where he rattled off about 260-300 yrds in one half againt katy in '92( i think those figures are right, but i've slept snce then). At one point he carried 7 katy players 10 YARDS for a touchdown!!!! UNBELIEVABLE POWER and speed!

ktCarl
02-23-2006, 06:51 PM
Earl Campbell, hands down. Thank you Tyler, Texas.

I never saw Eric Dickerson play for the 2A Sealy Tigers but he was a dominating runner in the NFL. He was awesome at SMU. Imagine what he was like against his 2A opponents.

stevefoxsc
02-23-2006, 06:54 PM
I never had the honor of watching VY play in high school but i did have the chance to Watch Ramounce Taylor when 13-5a was the district on fire.

tailgater
02-23-2006, 08:57 PM
I would have to say Bobby Reid.

Only because he has a state championship to show for it. He put the team on his shoulders against The Woodlands in 03. This is the only thing he has on VY.

But I will agree - VY -was one of the best ever. He was "showtime". Took the show on the road all the way to the Rose Bowl. If he would have had any type of decent defense. He would have won a state championship.

If you think the NFL is popular now - just wait till VY cranks it up (hopefully for the Texans). He will do for Football what Tiger Woods did for Golf.

BigArab
02-23-2006, 09:02 PM
Bobby Taylor from Longview, formerly of the Eagles, was dominant in alllllll categories. He won state in basketball and track. In the basketball game, it wasn't even close. He and David Wesley were alleyooping to each other all game long. Bobby would pull down a rebound and just chunk downcourt to David who would dunk it and vice versa. He was also an amazing punt and kick returner, DB, WR, and RB. He was also a standout player in baseball. I've never seen such a versatile guy.

Other amazing people from L-view: Earnest Hunter (our version of Earl Campbell), Chris Butcher, Cory Hutching (that guy was unstoppable).

thebiggestfan
02-23-2006, 10:17 PM
Im just sittin here trying to think of a good thread so why not find out who ppl think is the most dominant texas high school football player of all time.

Vince Young-if you havent seen him in highlight videos or something like that, just imagine every game being as dominant as the 2 rosebowls he played in

Kenneth Hall-i know, i know, long long time ago but his stats are amazing. 11,000+ rushing yds in usually only 12 games a year, and how many other players dominated as a freshmen like he did

Cedric Benson-he did some pretty amazing things in his 3 years, probably would have broke K.Halls record if he played his freshmen year also, and he never ran better then a 4.6

Chase Daniel-come on i had to put him on here, out of 3 years only lost once. fast, shifty, and could play any skill position and still be all state(maybe) could lead his team as well as vince, and oh ya, did any one notice that missouri played better when he was on the field not B.Smith??

What about Sergio Kindle that kid is a freak of nature 6'4 235 4.5 full scholarship sophmore junior and senior year over 120 takles each year kid is a freak and will be getting better

CCBoy
02-24-2006, 07:35 AM
I saw Sergio Kindle play against Wylie two seasons ago for the first time at Texas Stadium. He was nice on offense, but on defense he was so tired that he was resting on the field. I knew this kid had to be good on both sides of the ball because he had a good game playing every single snap.

The Most dominant player that I saw was Arlington Lamar's RB Shawn Walters. You just knew when they lined up who was getting the ball, but there was nothing you could do about it. I don't remember his body and physical stats, but if big and fast counts then that's what I'll call it.

LoneRocket
02-24-2006, 10:07 PM
I saw Sergio Kindle play against Wylie two seasons ago for the first time at Texas Stadium. He was nice on offense, but on defense he was so tired that he was resting on the field. I knew this kid had to be good on both sides of the ball because he had a good game playing every single snap.

The Most dominant player that I saw was Arlington Lamar's RB Shawn Walters. You just knew when they lined up who was getting the ball, but there was nothing you could do about it. I don't remember his body and physical stats, but if big and fast counts then that's what I'll call it.
Jessie Armstead, Dennis Kennedy and Johnny Bailey.

YuccaRoot
02-25-2006, 07:35 AM
Ivory Lee Brown (Adrian Peterson's uncle): Palestine Fall 84,85,86

Brown did not played D-1 football because of academic issues. He attended Tyler JC and lead the JUCO ranks in rushing for two years. After Tyler JC, he attended Arkansas-Pine Bluff and lead the NAIA in rushing for two years. He played in the NFL's European League and lead the leaguein rushing. The Phoenix Cardinals found a place for him on their roster in the early 90s but he was cut due to weight issues. In terms of raw talent (speed, power, vision)...he was the most blessed football player I've ever seen in person at the high school level.

The best football player that I ever seen perform on a high school football field is Earl Campbell. He took his exceptional natural talents to a new level through hard work and determination...he was physically blessed and he worked hard to become one of the best players ever. The game completely changed the moment he stepped foot on the field.

dmc 77
02-25-2006, 09:30 AM
I'm about to show my age... i saw Earl play us (Lufkin) when he was a Linebacker, he stopped everyone:eek: and then I saw him play as a running back, he was unbelieveable. It took the whole team to bring him down. He did that on EVERY PLAY.... barely get up and slowly walk back to the huddle and then POW! he does it again.

I also saw D. Johnson stop us in the playoffs when HE decided to take over the game. When he did, our running game was finished.

But I have to vote too for Reggie McNeil, to see him take over a game was impressive... His uncanny way to make the defense wonder if he was going to throw or run... if he had been on a good college team he too would be up in the spotlights for 1st round picks. He will be a great pick for someone. :cool:

YuccaRoot
02-25-2006, 04:40 PM
dmc 77,

The best game player that I ever faced on the field of play was Lufkin's QB Ronnie Blake in Fall 1977. The highest rated recruit that I ever faced was Longview's DL Hosea Taylor in Fall 1976. Taylor also played fullback on offense.

VB Pack Fan
02-26-2006, 10:01 PM
Reggie was a better player in HS than Vince. Reggie won games for Lufkin on sheer talent including the state game. Vince never did that, but he did at Texas..........

dragonsdaddy
02-27-2006, 10:29 AM
Reggie was a better player in HS than Vince. Reggie won games for Lufkin on sheer talent including the state game. Vince never did that, but he did at Texas..........
if you switched vince and reggie, lp/madison-wise, i wouldn't be surprised if the results were switched too. vince wasn't on the best team in the world. better coaching at lp, if nothing else.

KT2000
02-27-2006, 10:57 AM
Vince and Courtney Lewis carried an average Madison team to the state semis in 2001. They turned around and did the same thing in basketball. VY played QB and also passing downs at free safety. He's the most dominant high school player I've ever seen on offense. Derrick Johnson is the most dominant HS defender I've seen. I had my mind made up on Vince and Derrick before they even signed their letters of intent. Back when everyone thought Vince was a lock to LSU/Miami and that DJ would go to Oklahoma.

dragonsdaddy
02-27-2006, 11:09 AM
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South Texas
02-27-2006, 11:13 AM
Vince and Courtney Lewis carried an average Madison team to the state semis in 2001. They turned around and did the same thing in basketball. VY played QB and also passing downs at free safety. He's the most dominant high school player I've ever seen on offense. Derrick Johnson is the most dominant HS defender I've seen. I had my mind made up on Vince and Derrick before they even signed their letters of intent. Back when everyone thought Vince was a lock to LSU/Miami and that DJ would go to Oklahoma.

Madison was just an offensive minded team. There defense is what lost the game. Wasn't the final score 55 -49?

KT2000
02-27-2006, 02:29 PM
The score of the North Shore game was 61-58 in regulation. The Westlake game in the semis ended 48-42.

Madison's defense got progressively worse in VY's three years as a starter there. In 97 and 98 (years just before Vince), Madison had very good defenses and Jerel Myers (WR at LSU) was the QB.

In 01, Vince and the offense went into every playoff game knowing they had to score a lot because the defense wasn't going to shut anyone down.