Teams to watch for in the DFW:

[E-Vol-ution]

Trinity of course........who else?

[ClevelandTexan]

Coppell. Should be a good year from them.

[trainin' the game]

desoto? I know they will have some key starters returning.

[tmcran]

Plano East:confused:

[farmerfan]

All of them. We are the DF-DUB and we are the best :cool:

[SLC]

All of them. We are the DF-DUB and we are the best :cool:


Minus most of the DISD, I concur.:cool:


Also, Abilene...oh yea, nevermind. What East Texas schools are ours this go round? lol.

[Plano West Wolf]

Allen and Marcus coming from 8-5A.

Hebron will be very dangerous as well if their defense improves.

[ROD LEE]

Mesquite should bounce back from their 1-9 campaign in 2009. They'll have a more experienced defense returning and a fiery QB to start with offensively.

[slcdragonfan]

Allen and Marcus coming from 8-5A.

Hebron will be very dangerous as well if their defense improves.

Their D improved over the season. They might be a sleeper.

[85Roughneck]

All of them. We are the DF-DUB and we are the best :cool::notworthy

[farmerfan]

Minus most of the DISD, I concur.:cool:


Also, Abilene...oh yea, nevermind. What East Texas schools are ours this go round? lol.

Ehhhhh

Do a league with ISD's represented by cities of 550,000 people or more and DISD probably would take it :cool:

[E-Vol-ution]

Ehhhhh

Do a league with ISD's represented by cities of 550,000 people or more and DISD probably would take it :cool:

H-town?......oops, my bad, I thought I read to name one worse. lol

[SLC]

Ehhhhh

Do a league with ISD's represented by cities of 550,000 people or more and DISD probably would take it :cool:



It would have to be either Carter, SOC, Lincoln or Skyline. Maybe Kimball on an extremely good year. I'd definately take those 5 over anything else if a league was made like that.

[farmerfan]

H-town?

They're Houston and we'd be sending Dallas. Nuff said :cool:;)

[farmerfan]

It would have to be either Carter, SOC, Lincoln or Skyline. Maybe Kimball on an extremely good year. I'd definately take those 5 over anything else if a league was made like that.

As would I

[BlakeJ]

DFW is a cake walk. No teams to play up there.

[slcdragonfan]

DFW is a cake walk. No teams to play up there.

I wish I could find a picture of a kid with a stick poking an antbed. That would be your icon. :D

[BlakeJ]

I wish I could find a picture of a kid with a stick poking an antbed. That would be your icon. :D

No different than anyone else around here.

[slcdragonfan]

No different than anyone else around here.

don't get all sensitive, I meant it in a jocular manner.

[farmerfan]

DFW is a cake walk. No teams to play up there.

Not at all my friend. Our bands are pretty kick *** though

[THSBandDad]

Not at all my friend. Our bands are pretty kick *** though

Now there is something that l.d.bell can win at. :D

[farmerfan]

Now there is something that l.d.bell can win at. :D

Only if coming in second is winning. FM Marcus says HI :D

and before you go all BOA on me, I'm talking about the defending UIL State champs here:)

[THSBandDad]

Only if coming in second is winning. FM Marcus says HI :D

and before you go all BOA on me, I'm talking about the defending UIL State champs here:)

BOA or UIL, doesn't matter to me. l.d.bell still smells. :)

[slcdragonfan]

Only if coming in second is winning. FM Marcus says HI :D

and before you go all BOA on me, I'm talking about the defending UIL State champs here:)

So do you think it was the talent, the band director(s), the competition, or what? Does Marcus have something in the water over there? Or do Marcus kids work harder than everybody else? Is it the tradition? Do you think they should be considered for BOD (Band of the Decade)? ;)

[THSBandDad]

So do you think it was the talent, the band director(s), the competition, or what? Does Marcus have something in the water over there? Or do Marcus kids work harder than everybody else? Is it the tradition? Do you think they should be considered for BOD (Band of the Decade)? ;)

All of the above. but all these band kids work very hard. Directors do have influence because it is their personality that gets kids to join and stay in band.

Just don't get me started on the politics involved in band competitions.

Band competitions are not like football where one team actually gets on the field and beats another. They're more like the "national rankings" of football teams. Reputation and history come into play.

[FatBoy of Troy]

All of the above. but all these band kids work very hard. Directors do have influence because it is their personality that gets kids to join and stay in band.

Just don't get me started on the politics involved in band competitions.

Band competitions are not like football where one team actually gets on the field and beats another. They're more like the "national rankings" of football teams. Reputation and history come into play.

This is why I hate anything with subjective judging .ie marching competetions, Olympic ice skating etc. Anytime a judge has any kind of bias (don't like your uniforms, don't like your music, director etc.)

Ask Nancy Kerrigan or anyone else that watched when she was awarded the silver medal for a flawless performance, behind gold medalist Oksana Baiul who was stumbling all through her routine about subjective judging.

Give me scoreboards with clocks (and awake clock operators), first downs, yards, touchdowns, strikes, base hits, baskets and stop watches over subjective judging any day!:D

But then again the human element still comes into play with referees, umpires, and sleeping clock operators.

[slcdragonfan]

All of the above. but all these band kids work very hard. Directors do have influence because it is their personality that gets kids to join and stay in band.

Just don't get me started on the politics involved in band competitions.

Band competitions are not like football where one team actually gets on the field and beats another. They're more like the "national rankings" of football teams. Reputation and history come into play.

I'm actually a "Band Dad" myself. Believe me, Carroll understands the politics involved in Band and Color Guard competitions.

And I love our Directors (in case you're watching guys)! :D

That was more for FF, he knows what I was talking about.

[farmerfan]

So do you think it was the talent, the band director(s), the competition, or what? Does Marcus have something in the water over there? Or do Marcus kids work harder than everybody else? Is it the tradition? Do you think they should be considered for BOD (Band of the Decade)? ;)

It can't be the standards because we have been told that the standards in other places are much higher than they are at Marcus. I would say the money to pay off the judges but the money shifted over to FMHS when it opened so there goes that theory.
I think the LD Bell and others had injuries, I heard the first and second chair trumpet players had 5th degree chaped lips. Heard that the first chair baratone sections had had strep so that effected them. Was told that the percussion section had carpel tunnel from typing too much on 5Abands.com and finally that the claranette(sp) section had money from kissing the Trinity football team. It was apart of the master plan for Trinity though since they got beat by Allen, no way was Bell going to win state. Marcus won by default

[onevision]

The usual suspects....

SLC
Trinity
Desoto
Skyline
Bowie
Cedar Hill

[farmerfan]

In all seriousness I would say that band kids work just as hard as football players and the hours they put in at school are just as much if nor more. I do not think Marcus worked harder than the kids at Bell or Carroll or any of the other school they just jumped on their opportunity and ran with it. They were "prepared" better than their competition and that is why they won last year.

[farmerfan]

The usual suspects....

SLC
Trinity
Desoto
Skyline
Bowie
Cedar Hill

The bolded most know why. THe others are going to be young. What is it about Cedar Hill and Carroll that stick out? Especially more than lets say, Coppell?

[trojanbacker]

Only if coming in second is winning. FM Marcus says HI :D

and before you go all BOA on me, I'm talking about the defending UIL State champs here:)

That there made me laugh pretty hard.

[trojanbacker]

All of the above. but all these band kids work very hard. Directors do have influence because it is their personality that gets kids to join and stay in band.

Just don't get me started on the politics involved in band competitions.

Band competitions are not like football where one team actually gets on the field and beats another. They're more like the "national rankings" of football teams. Reputation and history come into play.

You can't take anything away from the success that Bell has had in band over the last 30 years or so. It's pretty amazing. It's not my cup of tea, but I admire the tradition of winning they have there. I think, much like football, it has a lot to do with their feeder schools, which have also enjoyed tremendous stability and success. In band.

[slcdragonfan]

In all seriousness I would say that band kids work just as hard as football players and the hours they put in at school are just as much if nor more. I do not think Marcus worked harder than the kids at Bell or Carroll or any of the other school they just jumped on their opportunity and ran with it. They were "prepared" better than their competition and that is why they won last year.

Naw. Its politics.

[slcdragonfan]

You can't take anything away from the success that Bell has had in band over the last 30 years or so. It's pretty amazing. It's not my cup of tea, but I admire the tradition of winning they have there. I think, much like football, it has a lot to do with their feeder schools, which have also enjoyed tremendous stability and success. In band.

They recruit.

[farmerfan]

Naw. Its politics.

:heli::notworthy:heli::yes:

[slcdragonfan]

:heli::notworthy:heli::yes:

I'm a veritable GENO RULE machine tonight!

I think I will go visit with my 18 year-old friend MacAllan now and smoke a nice Butera cigar and ponder the vicissitudes and vagaries of life.

[farmerfan]

I'm a veritable GENO RULE machine tonight!

I think I will go visit with my 18 year-old friend MacAllan now and smoke a nice Butera cigar and ponder the vicissitudes and vagaries of life.

Ok,. You lost me there. Remember I grew up in Lewisville so I do not comprehend any of those words :yes:

[bigdaddydog]

This is why I hate anything with subjective judging .ie marching competetions, Olympic ice skating etc. Anytime a judge has any kind of bias (don't like your uniforms, don't like your music, director etc.)
Ask Nancy Kerrigan or anyone else that watched when she was awarded the silver medal for a flawless performance, behind gold medalist Oksana Baiul who was stumbling all through her routine about subjective judging.

Give me scoreboards with clocks (and awake clock operators), first downs, yards, touchdowns, strikes, base hits, baskets and stop watches over subjective judging any day!:D

But then again the human element still comes into play with referees, umpires, and sleeping clock operators.

BAM, now that's what I'm talking about!!!

I just love hi jacking threads with band talk!! :D

Everybody wants to brag about the precission of this line or that manuever and the accuracy if this move or that all while the band is playing some insanely difficult Etude written by some dead French dude that you can hardley hear, punctuated by half the band and the color guard dramatically performing the death spiral, with $10,000 worth of motorized hydraulic operated props!! :mad:

All I've got to say is when you're droping a 600 kids bomb on the field the target will be hit and there will be fun and entertainment :notworthy

Stone Cold's Band Motto:


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3470/3925396676_84804539d3_o.jpg

[da hawaiian]

Double post

[da hawaiian]

arlington martin ...

[FatBoy of Troy]

arlington martin ...

Agreed, Martin...if they can solve their depth...or lack of. They just had too many guys going both ways last season. Regular season they'll do OK, but when the playoffs roll around and they are playing the best of the best, and add in attrition due to injuries???

Flower Mound...

If they can solve their defense problems.:yes:



Trinity
Coppell
Marcus
Allen - despite what Allendad and Bigdaddydog say
SLC
Heritage

Sleeper pick
Grapevine

[bigdaddydog]

If they can solve their depth...or lack of. They just had too many guys going both ways last season. Regular season they'll do OK, but when the playoffs roll around and they are playing the best of the best, and add in attrition due to injuries???

Flower Mound...

If they can solve their defense problems.:yes:



Trinity
Coppell
Marcus
Allen - despite what Allendad and Bigdaddydog say
SLC
Heritage

Sleeper pick
Grapevine

People doubted me when I told them how great our team was in 2008 and now they are doubting my reservation about Allen's success in 2010. I just hope I am wrong.


I will submit the Plano Wildcats



If they dominate 7 on 7 that will tell us how the rest of their season will go. The only thing missing will be seeing their Offensive line.


~

[FatBoy of Troy]

People doubted me when I told them how great our team was in 2008 and now they are doubting my reservation about Allen's success in 2010. I just hope I am wrong.


I will submit the Plano Wildcats



If they dominate 7 on 7 that will tell us how the rest of their season will go. The only thing missing will be seeing their Offensive line.


~
True story. As I was walking out of Allen stadium in 2008 after the first Trinity/ Allen game, I visited (and bummed free food) with several Allen fans. They were all in full "O woe is us" mode. We're gonna suck so bad". Some were all ready to throw Matt Brown under the bus. I'm not making this up. I told them, "Folks...this a great team. You are going deep in the playoffs". "Maybe even a championship caliber team" (at this point I was just being polite".:o

Little did I know...or was it...psychic moment:notworthy...or psycho?????:eek:

[SLC]

People doubted me when I told them how great our team was in 2008 and now they are doubting my reservation about Allen's success in 2010. I just hope I am wrong.


I will submit the Plano Wildcats



If they dominate 7 on 7 that will tell us how the rest of their season will go. The only thing missing will be seeing their Offensive line.


~


I agree. I think the Maroon Machine will be back in '10 with a pretty salty team.

[SLC]

To give a serious take on this, I'll list a few that should be pretty damn good next season..

Trinity
Coppell
Plano
Hebron
Desoto
Arlington Martin
Lake Highlands

[bigdaddydog]

True story. As I was walking out of Allen stadium in 2008 after the first Trinity/ Allen game, I visited (and bummed free food) with several Allen fans. They were all in full "O woe is us" mode. We're gonna suck so bad". Some were all ready to throw Matt Brown under the bus. I'm not making this up. I told them, "Folks...this a great team. You are going deep in the playoffs". "Maybe even a championship caliber team" (at this point I was just being polite".:o

Little did I know...or was it...psychic moment:notworthy...or psycho?????:eek:

OMG! It's like I was reading your mind. I was thinking the same thing about last year's Trojan team!!! I must be psychotic!!;):D


~

[slcdragonfan]

Ok,. You lost me there. Remember I grew up in Lewisville so I do not comprehend any of those words :yes:

I grew up in Pasadena, where Boone's Farm was upscale. :)

[slcdragonfan]

People doubted me when I told them how great our team was in 2008 and now they are doubting my reservation about Allen's success in 2010. I just hope I am wrong.


I will submit the Plano Wildcats



If they dominate 7 on 7 that will tell us how the rest of their season will go. The only thing missing will be seeing their Offensive line.


~

I agree. Maybe it was expectations, and it is only one game, but I expected ET to blow Plano off the field. They really impressed me.

[SWMHebron]

I agree. Maybe it was expectations, and it is only one game, but I expected ET to blow Plano off the field. They really impressed me.

You and everybody else.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

It would have to be either Carter, SOC, Lincoln or Skyline. Maybe Kimball on an extremely good year. I'd definately take those 5 over anything else if a league was made like that.

Yep! With the exception of Skyline, the 4A DISD districts are way better than the 5A district.

And, I believe that Lincoln will be 3A starting this coming fall.

[FarmerFootballPlayer]

I think Flower Mound should be a pretty good team next year. Their offense was young this year and still lighting it up. The defense will have a year in the system under the belts, but they do lose a lot. If they can fill the voids with players who are as good or better than the departing seniors they'll be a tough out.

If Garland Naaman Forest can find a QB they'll be dangerous. They always field a strong rushing attack and have a lot of athletes on defense. Adding some balance to the offense would make them capable of winning some playoff games.

This might be my boldest prediction, but I think Grapevine will not only make the playoffs, they will win a playoff game. Their offensive system proved to be successful once they started to take care of the ball. If I remember right from the scouting report, their defense was fairly young too. Nowhere to go but up. Most importantly though, they've got a renewed sense of confidence. That can make all the difference.

And strictly a homer pick, but Lewisville will be at least 5-5, if not better. From what I understand, the non district schedule is pretty light (Grapevine Keller Central and Creekview if I remember) and I can certainly see them grabbing at least 2 district games. An offense that showed flashes of brilliance last year returns basically everything. QB DeAndre Grimes is simply a playmaker. I foresee a major improvement in the Farmer offense from year 1 to year 2 of Coach Olin's system. On defense, a lot of experience returns, but from a unit that probably set some sort of school record for points allowed. Just like Grapevine, nowhere to go but up. I've seen the off season workouts these guys are doing, hiring a strength coach, wrestling, track, 7 on 7. I see the younger guys in the hallways and they're noticeably bigger. The Farmers are serious about winning and I think we'll see some big improvements in the fall.

And now is where my super long post stops. :yes:

[FatBoy of Troy]

I agree. Maybe it was expectations, and it is only one game, but I expected ET to blow Plano off the field. They really impressed me.
You, Silver Wings Mom, and me all three.

Somebody forgot to tell those little snots from Plano they were supposed to lose.:notworthy Next time they need to follow the script and stop ad libing.:D

[SLC]

Yep! With the exception of Skyline, the 4A DISD districts are way better than the 5A district.

And, I believe that Lincoln will be 3A starting this coming fall.


Yes sir, and I forgot to throw Madison in there. On occaision they have some decent teams too.

And the Tigers will be 4A again this time.

[slcdragonfan]

I think Flower Mound should be a pretty good team next year. Their offense was young this year and still lighting it up. The defense will have a year in the system under the belts, but they do lose a lot. If they can fill the voids with players who are as good or better than the departing seniors they'll be a tough out.
I'd agree, but we'll have to see. Allen had a similar look a few years ago and fixed their D in a hurry, we all know how that ended up. :)
If Garland Naaman Forest can find a QB they'll be dangerous. They always field a strong rushing attack and have a lot of athletes on defense. Adding some balance to the offense would make them capable of winning some playoff games.
Mebbe. I saw them on TV , they have talent. But I felt they were ill-prepared in the game I saw (they kept getting the ball stripped!). Their coach is in his second year I think? And there was a lot of talk on here of kids quitting because the other coach left, not sure how that turned out. For Naaman, I think it is all about if the Coach can get them focused and prepared. They seem to always have some talent. You are probably right about the QB.
This might be my boldest prediction, but I think Grapevine will not only make the playoffs, they will win a playoff game. Their offensive system proved to be successful once they started to take care of the ball. If I remember right from the scouting report, their defense was fairly young too. Nowhere to go but up. Most importantly though, they've got a renewed sense of confidence. That can make all the difference.
Here is a team where a Coach did EVERYTHING to get a team to be the best it could be. Talk about the value of a good Coach? Look at that turnaround. Not sure that there is a lot of talent, but he extracted ever.last.bit. out of those kids and got them believing in themselves. Proves that talent is not the end-all be-all of HS Football. Winning a playoff game will all depend upon who they play. They play smart though.
And strictly a homer pick, but Lewisville will be at least 5-5, if not better. From what I understand, the non district schedule is pretty light (Grapevine Keller Central and Creekview if I remember) and I can certainly see them grabbing at least 2 district games. An offense that showed flashes of brilliance last year returns basically everything. QB DeAndre Grimes is simply a playmaker. I foresee a major improvement in the Farmer offense from year 1 to year 2 of Coach Olin's system. On defense, a lot of experience returns, but from a unit that probably set some sort of school record for points allowed. Just like Grapevine, nowhere to go but up. I've seen the off season workouts these guys are doing, hiring a strength coach, wrestling, track, 7 on 7. I see the younger guys in the hallways and they're noticeably bigger. The Farmers are serious about winning and I think we'll see some big improvements in the fall.
I hope so. I saw a lot of heart in your team last year. Never quit. That's what makes champions.
And now is where my super long post stops. :yes:

Good post.

[owlfan 1]

I think Flower Mound should be a pretty good team next year. Their offense was young this year and still lighting it up. The defense will have a year in the system under the belts, but they do lose a lot. If they can fill the voids with players who are as good or better than the departing seniors they'll be a tough out.

If Garland Naaman Forest can find a QB they'll be dangerous. They always field a strong rushing attack and have a lot of athletes on defense. Adding some balance to the offense would make them capable of winning some playoff games.

This might be my boldest prediction, but I think Grapevine will not only make the playoffs, they will win a playoff game. Their offensive system proved to be successful once they started to take care of the ball. If I remember right from the scouting report, their defense was fairly young too. Nowhere to go but up. Most importantly though, they've got a renewed sense of confidence. That can make all the difference.

And strictly a homer pick, but Lewisville will be at least 5-5, if not better. From what I understand, the non district schedule is pretty light (Grapevine Keller Central and Creekview if I remember) and I can certainly see them grabbing at least 2 district games. An offense that showed flashes of brilliance last year returns basically everything. QB DeAndre Grimes is simply a playmaker. I foresee a major improvement in the Farmer offense from year 1 to year 2 of Coach Olin's system. On defense, a lot of experience returns, but from a unit that probably set some sort of school record for points allowed. Just like Grapevine, nowhere to go but up. I've seen the off season workouts these guys are doing, hiring a strength coach, wrestling, track, 7 on 7. I see the younger guys in the hallways and they're noticeably bigger. The Farmers are serious about winning and I think we'll see some big improvements in the fall.

And now is where my super long post stops. :yes:

naaman has very little this year. i'd be surprised if they get to 5 wins. cupboard is a little bare...

[ALLENFANDINGO5]

Judging by how they played Trinity in the playoffs and with what I have seen as far as returning players. I think Plano will be better than most think. 8-5A will be very interesting all-around this year.

[E-Vol-ution]

Yes sir, and I forgot to throw Madison in there. On occaision they have some decent teams too.

And the Tigers will be 4A again this time.
No love for Woodrow Wilson, Seagoville and Hillcrest?

[bowiedawgs01]

Regarding the league made up of ISDs of 550,000+...

I think AISD, as bad as it is overall, could match up decently with DISD or HISD.
Bowie
Austin High
Anderson
LBJ (4A)
McCallum (4A)

Skyline would be the favorite, but after that I think AISD would hold its own.

[JagFan]

Judging by how they played Trinity in the playoffs and with what I have seen as far as returning players. I think Plano will be better than most think. 8-5A will be very interesting all-around this year.

If Plano plays every game with that same intensity they will go very far next year.

[GoOwls]

naaman has very little this year. i'd be surprised if they get to 5 wins. cupboard is a little bare...

This.

I was surprised to see someone tout Naaman...they were lucky to do as well as they did last year, and their studs graduated...very predictable offense.

[LordByron]

Agreed, Martin...if they can solve their depth...or lack of. They just had too many guys going both ways last season. Regular season they'll do OK, but when the playoffs roll around and they are playing the best of the best, and add in attrition due to injuries???

Flower Mound...

If they can solve their defense problems.:yes:



Trinity
Coppell
Marcus
Allen - despite what Allendad and Bigdaddydog say
SLC
Heritage

Sleeper pick
GrapevineI don't think they had a depth problem last year. Wager has about the best conditioning program in the state and he can play the best athletes both ways more than most folks. Plus we don't graduate many players and we do have some strong underclassmen moving up.. But thanks for the love folks. Martin is pretty new to this stuff.

[worster70]

To give a serious take on this, I'll list a few that should be pretty damn good next season..

Trinity
Coppell
Plano
Hebron
Desoto
Arlington Martin
Lake Highlands

per TexasHSfootball.com Trinity & Coppell had 7 all region I underclassmen on first or second team ( most of any schools)...probably a good place to start going into spring.

Hebron
Desoto
SLC
Guyer

[SLC]

per TexasHSfootball.com Trinity & Coppell had 7 all region I underclassmen on first or second team ( most of any schools)...probably a good place to start going into spring.

Hebron
Desoto
SLC
Guyer



Allsome. So I did good, yes?:)


It's going to be an interesting season for sure. Alot of, usually really good, metromess teams lost some damn good players to graduation.

I know you (and others) keep touting Carroll, and while it feels good to see them being touted so much..reality says it may be a season until they are back among the usual DF DUB suspects.


Guyer will be an interesting one for two reasons: they lost quite a few steller players from a really good team of the past two seasons; And they will be in 5A for the first time and while I'm of the belief that 5A doesn't present a shocking difference (especially to those very good 4A programs), it does sometimes take a season or two to get used to playing teams with increased depth and against a field that has "been here", save Saginaw. Now, that doesn't mean I dont think Guyer wont be competitive or that I dont think they will make the playoffs, cause I do...on both counts. Just that i dont think they will be one of the top DF DUB teams in 2010. I could wind up being wrong though, I have been before.

[worster70]

Allsome. So I did good, yes?:)


It's going to be an interesting season for sure. Alot of, usually really good, metromess teams lost some damn good players to graduation.

I know you (and others) keep touting Carroll, and while it feels good to see them being touted so much..reality says it may be a season until they are back among the usual DF DUB suspects.


Guyer will be an interesting one for two reasons: they lost quite a few steller players from a really good team of the past two seasons; And they will be in 5A for the first time and while I'm of the belief that 5A doesn't present a shocking difference (especially to those very good 4A programs), it does sometimes take a season or two to get used to playing teams with increased depth and against a field that has "been here", save Saginaw. Now, that doesn't mean I dont think Guyer wont be competitive or that I dont think they will make the playoffs, cause I do...on both counts. Just that i dont think they will be one of the top DF DUB teams in 2010. I could wind up being wrong though, I have been before.

Cove will tell alot
OC(CG) is very good but will probably be HC in 2011 ..looking forward to pants and toon comments on it
Highland Park reloads 15+ starters everyear I suspect 7-5a will have trouble dealing w/ SLC

[SLC]

Cove will tell alot
OC(CG) is very good but will probably be HC in 2011 ..looking forward to pants and toon comments on it
Highland Park reloads 15+ starters everyear I suspect 7-5a will have trouble dealing w/ SLC



I agree Copperas Cove will tell alot, but being on the road with such a young team, I honestly dont expect a win. Will be rooting for one though.

We'll see about George being the head coach following next season. I'm not convinced it will happen, but we'll see. I will say, if for any reason Wasson isn't the head coach following next season, I'd love to see George in that capacity.

I understand your point with HP and dont misunderstand my hesitance with '10 Carroll for us not giving everyone a game, or that we are going to lay down and be an easy win..I dont believe that for a second. I just believe that this will be a re-tooling of sorts with all the new starters and new coaches, is all. I've said and will say again, I expect Carroll to make the playoffs..Past that- Overall record? Who knows. 1 win in the playoffs? or more? Who knows. We'll see.

[E-Vol-ution]

per TexasHSfootball.com Trinity & Coppell had 7 all region I underclassmen on first or second team ( most of any schools)...probably a good place to start going into spring.

Hebron
Desoto
SLC
Guyer
They also had Arlington Bowie ranked 33rd in the state.:rofl::rofl:

[SLC]

They also had Arlington Bowie ranked 33rd in the state.:rofl::rofl:



Hmmmm. You know Evol, I dont believe I had Bowie on my list and even though you guys lost some kids (good ones too) and a very good assistant, I am betting on Perry to have the '10 Bowie team ready to go and again very stout. So Bowie is another one of my DFW teams to watch for.

[FarmerFootballPlayer]

This.

I was surprised to see someone tout Naaman...they were lucky to do as well as they did last year, and their studs graduated...very predictable offense.

The Naaman Forest I remember playing was big, physical, and fast (Or maybe we were just small, soft, and slow :p). That always gets you somewhere. If they had a passing game they would've been dangerous. I know they're losing a lot, but are the underclassmen really that bad?

[E-Vol-ution]

Hmmmm. You know Evol, I dont believe I had Bowie on my list and even though you guys lost some kids (good ones too) and a very good assistant, I am betting on Perry to have the '10 Bowie team ready to go and again very stout. So Bowie is another one of my DFW teams to watch for.

While we did indeed lose some pretty good players, we not only return a very nice group....but have the most anticipated class in Perry's era entering as juniors on this squad. Losing Coach Fuller is going to hurt.......but I see a trend of head coaches coming out of Coach Perry's programs. Somebody else will step in and step up.

[SLC]

While we did indeed lose some pretty good players, we not only return a very nice group....but have the most anticipated class in Perry's era entering as juniors on this squad. Losing Coach Fuller is going to hurt.......but I see a trend of head coaches coming out of Coach Perry's programs. Somebody else will step in and step up.

Will be interesting for sure. I think Perry has gotten the program to the point to where he can now re-load, rather than re-build. Be careful about those "anticipated classes". They can work out sometimes and not so much in other times. You guys put an end to one of ours last season.;)

[GoOwls]

The Naaman Forest I remember playing was big, physical, and fast (Or maybe we were just small, soft, and slow :p). That always gets you somewhere. If they had a passing game they would've been dangerous. I know they're losing a lot, but are the underclassmen really that bad?

To be honest, IMHO, what they accomplished last year was totally due to the two stars that have now moved on to D-1, esp. Harris to Texas. Without those guys, it'll be tough, I think.