When Will The Dream Game Happen?

[trojanhawg77:)]

When will SLC and ET go head to head?...I know for sure it would of been one to go down in HISTORY. It could of been the best game of the century. It also shows which is better the passing game, or the running game???......They should of had a game setup for these two at the end, atleast for charity of katrina victims, it would of filled up the whole cowboy stadium for sure.

[dragons08]

isnt it to early for these threads?

[toonman]

That moment in history has passed. 2005 was unique in that 2 high schools less than 10 miles apart, were the two 5A State Champions. One with a great ground/rushing game and the other with a great passing/air game. It is unlikely that both teams will match up the same way again, both as potential State Champions, which was definitely the situation in 2005 as the district games unfolded, but the game just did not happen. Any game in 2006, 2007 or whenever the Dragons play the Trojans will have no relevance to the two 2005 Championship 5A Teams. If it happens – it happens, but it will be in a different era, with different teams and made up of different players, who will probably not be as good as the 2005 teams.

[Mad Hatter]

it already did happen.....


Usc vs Texas ring any bells......:rolleyes:

i would not consider Et and SLC a dream game...by a long shot

[stevefoxsc]

it already did happen.....


Usc vs Texas ring any bells......:rolleyes:

i would not consider Et and SLC a dream game...by a long shot


indeed, Trinity fans there is one problem with games like this. You wont get to use this year's team reminds me of arlington lamar in 2003 by far one of the best team's in the state that year, and just like ET they wanted a piece of slc, i mean they probably could have honestly beat them that year but nope they didn't get there shot. Then came 04 seasson and this team was suppose to be better than the last one, well somthing must have been wrong when play off's came and slc was there AL didn't really perform up to its 03 hype and i can see it the same way for ET fan's teams like these are specials they only happen once in a while and even though when we get these team's and wish we could take on every team out there we can't.

[slorch]

Oh, I'm sure SLC would win.
Don't forget to kneel and say a few words to Saint Dodge before entering the arena!
I don't know what you HAKA people are thinking about, Thinking you could even possibly withstand the Dragons' roundhouse kick!

For a couple of the SLC fans on here, SLC= Chuck Norris
( most of them don't act this way, but this is for the few who do, and you know who you are!)

[trojanhawg77:)]

are you serious???.......i dont think SLC could even hold up against ET's physical play. ET is one of the most hard hitting teams in the state(offensive and defensive), and i know that for sure. i dont think that d-line could hold up against that o-line. but yeah that was the 05 season, and its over. It wouldnt be the same.

[CKE]

are you serious???.......i dont think SLC could even hold up against ET's physical play. ET is one of the most hard hitting teams in the state(offensive and defensive), and i know that for sure. i dont think that d-line could hold up against that o-line. but yeah that was the 05 season, and its over. It wouldnt be the same.

this is the kind of stuff that makes people just look stupid. SLC would have Killed ET hands down. find one person other than a ET fan that will agree with you about ET winning and we can go on with this thread if not just let it die

[blueraiders11]

This argument is way past his prime and has gotten boring. But I guess I will give my unbiased opinion.

The 3 common opponents(Midland Lee, Coppell, Irving MacArthur) kind of tell the story, but since they both played Irving MacArthur in back to back games it shows who had the edge. Trinity won 31-24 and SLC won 48-21, but it was 41-0 at half. Trinity didn't have the pass defense to keep up with SGP/Irving MacArthur, why would it be different against the SLC recieving corps? The Trojans were lucky not to face any spread offenses in the playoffs. One could make a case for Fossil Ridge but they didn't pass at all. Yes the Trojans shut down the spread offense of LD Bell but they got lucky as each time we scored a TD it got called back due to a redundant penalty and each time we had a guy wide open it would get dropped, especially the screen pass as we dropped a pair of screens that were good for touchdowns. I think the final score, 2005 SLC vs 2005 Trinity would be somewhere around 56-28. SLC could put on points quick with the below average Trojan pass defense and then that would cause Trinity to have to open up their passing game which is only succesful when they set it up with the run, something they can't do when behind. Man coverage shut down the Trinity passing game as we proved against them, they were only 5-12 with an interception.

Why did I even get into this thread.. bleh

[blueraiders11]

Oh, I'm sure SLC would win.
Don't forget to kneel and say a few words to Saint Dodge before entering the arena!
I don't know what you HAKA people are thinking about, Thinking you could even possibly withstand the Dragons' roundhouse kick!

For a couple of the SLC fans on here, SLC= Chuck Norris
( most of them don't act this way, but this is for the few who do, and you know who you are!)

+1 for the Chuck Norris reference

[slorch]

this is the kind of stuff that makes people just look stupid. SLC would have Killed ET hands down. find one person other than a ET fan that will agree with you about ET winning and we can go on with this thread if not just let it die
this is the kind of stuff the orangebloods crucified ESPN for(and rightly so!) after the Rose Bowl. The bottom line is you don't know. I don't know...

When the big boys in this state get it on in the arena, a couple of plays usually turns the tide. Both teams had the talent to capitalize on those opportunities. It's all speculation.
That's a game we all should have had the chance to see. I hate the 2 division system!

[CKE]

this is the kind of stuff the orangebloods crucified ESPN for(and rightly so!) after the Rose Bowl. The bottom line is you don't know. I don't know...

When the big boys in this state get it on in the arena, a couple of plays usually turns the tide. Both teams had the talent to capitalize on those opportunities. It's all speculation.
That's a game we all should have had the chance to see. I hate the 2 division system!

and there is the one person. ok i agree that i might have been a good game but the way this new guy comes on to the board and says all this stuff how ET has so much better things than SLC is just stupid. trust me im no SLC freakthey took away my state title. but the comparisons this guy makes are just dumb

[slorch]

I understand where you're coming from...

[Mad Hatter]

1 state championship and u go off beating ure chest syaing u can can beat the BEST team in state of texas over the past 5 years.....give me some of that haka weed ure smoking please cuz it must be some real good stuff.

[slorch]

I forgot to kneel... so sorry

[drgnbkr]

I forgot to kneel... so sorry

Don't forget it again...:D ..Arlington Lamar? Bring it..they can't even get through the playoffs....

[KT1ss24]

Do all of you think it would have been a dream game? I don't think it would, I mean how do we know if Euless Trinity could have beaten Lufkin, Katy, or even Smithson Valley. For all we know Trinity could have lost to westfield if their Qb hadn't gone down. Not saying Trinity isn't a good team because they are, but were they really the 2nd best team in state??

[slorch]

Do all of you think it would have been a dream game? I don't think it would, I mean how do we know if Euless Trinity could have beaten Lufkin, Katy, or even Smithson Valley. For all we know Trinity could have lost to westfield if their Qb hadn't gone down. Not saying Trinity isn't a good team because they are, but were they really the 2nd best team in state??
I would pay to see ANY of those teams play each other!

[stevefoxsc]

1 state championship and u go off beating ure chest syaing u can can beat the BEST team in state of texas over the past 5 years.....give me some of that haka weed ure smoking please cuz it must be some real good stuff.


Actually the 2003 north shore team in my oppinion is still the best team i've seen over the last 5 years

[BigArab]

Besides, I wouldn't call it the dream game since the players that would've made it the dream game have graduated.

[Slim-Rob]

That moment in history has passed. 2005 was unique in that 2 high schools less than 10 miles apart, were the two 5A State Champions. One with a great ground/rushing game and the other with a great passing/air game. It is unlikely that both teams will match up the same way again, both as potential State Champions, which was definitely the situation in 2005 as the district games unfolded, but the game just did not happen. Any game in 2006, 2007 or whenever the Dragons play the Trojans will have no relevance to the two 2005 Championship 5A Teams. If it happens – it happens, but it will be in a different era, with different teams and made up of different players, who will probably not be as good as the 2005 teams.

....1995 Converse Judson and SA Roosevelt, both out of District 26-5A, won both the 5A titles. Judson's only loss of the season was to un-defeated Roosevelt.

I think the Trinity SLC matchup for this year would have been good, but I am unsure as to who would win.

[CKE]

....1995 Converse Judson and SA Roosevelt, both out of District 26-5A, won both the 5A titles. Judson's only loss of the season was to un-defeated Roosevelt.

Things get crazy in the 2-6-5

[RidgePride]

When will SLC and ET go head to head?...I know for sure it would of been one to go down in HISTORY. It could of been the best game of the century. It also shows which is better the passing game, or the running game???......They should of had a game setup for these two at the end, atleast for charity of katrina victims, it would of filled up the whole cowboy stadium for sure.
It is only a dream game for Trinity. No one else cares much.

[slorch]

It is only a dream game for Trinity. No one else cares much.
i think alot of fans would like to see it. How could you be a fan of high school and not be interested anytime 2 top 5 teams play?

[trojanhawg77:)]

hahahaha.....im just sayin this because i was a player on the football team. And i so wanted slc. im tellin you i would of put #75 on his back. His name is boydston or something. hahaha and there linebackers too...so im just having fun, watching you guys respond to my thread.

[dragonsdaddy]

hahahaha.....im just sayin this because i was a player on the football team. And i so wanted slc. im tellin you i would of put #75 on his back. His name is boydston or something. hahaha and there linebackers too...so im just having fun, watching you guys respond to my thread.
you would have set a precedent with pancaking lb, as no one else had much if any success against him, or our lbs.

[CKE]

hahahaha.....im just sayin this because i was a player on the football team. And i so wanted slc. im tellin you i would of put #75 on his back. His name is boydston or something. hahaha and there linebackers too...so im just having fun, watching you guys respond to my thread.

lol well at least he is coming out and just saying he is trying cause trouble got to i have him credit for that one

[RidgePride]

i think alot of fans would like to see it. How could you be a fan of high school and not be interested anytime 2 top 5 teams play?
I just think there are several teams that went D2 this year that could have beaten Trinity. By saying it is a dream matchup implies (at least in my opinion) that we are matching the two best teams in Texas of 2005.

By the way, I do not feel Trinity was a top 5 team this year.

[CKE]

I just think there are several teams that went D2 this year that could have beaten Trinity. By saying it is a dream matchup implies (at least in my opinion) that we are matching the two best teams in Texas of 2005.

By the way, I do not feel Trinity was a top 5 team this year.

Agreed

[slorch]

I just think there are several teams that went D2 this year that could have beaten Trinity. By saying it is a dream matchup implies (at least in my opinion) that we are matching the two best teams in Texas of 2005.

By the way, I do not feel Trinity was a top 5 team this year.
I agree too .

They are no worse than #2. Play it on the field to find out, otherwise we just have the facts we have, right?

[SLCDRGN]

This is a stupid thread!!

My dream games every year would be Lufkin, SV & Katy. I have very little interest in playing Trinity. I went to Irvings School Stadium and watched Trinity vs Irving Mac and walked away thinking Mac had the better team overall. The problem with Mac was the fact their QB could'nt hit the broad side of a barn throwing the ball. The MAC defense did a great job slowing down the run most of the game. The MAC defense let-up when their Offense stumbled in the second half. Mac had receivers open all over the field that night and their QB just could'nt get the ball there.

If SLC and Trinity would have matched-up in the playoffs, this is how it would have gone. It would have been close early. The Trinity offense probably would have moved the ball some here and there. The problem for Trinity would have been the SLC Offense against the Trinity Defense. McElroy would have smoked that secondary all night. The Trinity secondary could not have stayed with the SLC receivers. They were SLOW!! This would have opened up the run and Newton would have killed them. This would have been a runaway after the second quarter with Trinity unable to keep up with the pace of the game. You take Trinity out of their straight forward I formation running game (like watching paint dry) and they would have been in serious trouble!! The SLC defense would have settled in nicely and Trinity would have had trouble moving the ball on any consistent basis.

My final poll for last season
1. SLC
2. Lufkin
3. Katy
4. Plano
5. Trinity

Trinity better be glad they went Division I.

[TrojanHorse03]

Am I mistaken or is the this the revisionist history board. The game didnt happen and won't happen. Everybody is entitled to their opininon, it still mean SQUAT!. At the very least Lufkin, Plano, Katy, Westfield, whoever else who came up short that you wanna bring up, have NO business in the discussion. I think what really bothers you guys is like what I told y'all before Trinity, its fans or players are THE ONLY team that isn't an awe or quaking in their boots at sight of the Dragons unlike those other teams mentioned. The best thing for Southlake is that none of the 64 games on the 5a level have come against Trinity all of a few miles away!

[slorch]

Am I mistaken or is the this the revisionist history board. The game didnt happen and won't happen. Everybody is entitled to their opininon, it still mean SQUAT!. At the very least Lufkin, Plano, Katy, Westfield, whoever else who came up short that you wanna bring up, have NO business in the discussion. I think what really bothers you guys is like what I told y'all before Trinity, its fans or players are THE ONLY team that isn't an awe or quaking in their boots at sight of the Dragons unlike those other teams mentioned. The best thing for Southlake is that none of the 64 games on the 5a level have come against Trinity all of a few miles away!
so you're the one...

i should have known SLC's streak would have ended long ago if they had only played trinity. You, my young friend are disillusioned.
There are about 8-10 teams that can hang with SLC, and Trinity is one of them. You know what, nobody's pulled it off in 3 years, and only Katy has in the past 4. i don't believe any of these teams are "shaking in their boots" when they play SLC, but to my point, nobody has executed as well as SLC on the field.
trinity hasn't played all of the other teams you are referring to either, in fact i know the last time Lufkin played y'all, they won.

Play the teams on the field, otherwise it's just your fantasy against ours.

[drgnbkr]

Like I've said, Trinity won the games they gave them to play...hail to the haka! Purely speculation, but my opinion is: Carroll could have put up more points than Trinty if they had played..Carroll 2005 wins 8 of 10 vs. Trinity 2005..again IMO..

[toonman]

so you're the one...

i should have known SLC's streak would have ended long ago if they had only played trinity. You, my young friend are disillusioned.
There are about 8-10 teams that can hang with SLC, and Trinity is one of them. You know what, nobody's pulled it off in 3 years, and only Katy has in the past 4. i don't believe any of these teams are "shaking in their boots" when they play SLC, but to my point, nobody has executed as well as SLC on the field.
trinity hasn't played all of the other teams you are referring to either, in fact i know the last time Lufkin played y'all, they won.

Play the teams on the field, otherwise it's just your fantasy against ours.

Hey! Let those Trinity folks bask in their glory (and delusions of grandeur), of 1 state championship in 37 years. Come on now, you know that 1 state championship in 2005 now makes Trinity the all-world, best team in the history of Texas 5A football etc, etc. That fact Southlake Carroll has lost only 1 game in 4 years, been to the state championship game in each of these 4 years and won state 3 times in those 4 years - any self respecting Trinity fan would naturally assume that with 14-1 in record in winning state in 2005 and with a 42-9 record over the same 4 years - they would have torn apart Southlake Carroll. (This next sentence I am whispering as I do not wish to burst the bubble of the Trinity Fans – “I agree Trinity Fans are the only ones who think they would have beaten Southlake Carroll in 2005” .)

[KT2000]

It's a shame we even have to discuss things like this. I won't go into another playoff system rant though. I'll spare everyone.

I think it's awfully easy to say you aren't intimidated by someone when you've never been on the field against them. Trinity has a very good program, but it'll take an entirely new level of sustained success to accomplish what some of the more storied programs in the state have.

No one really knows what would have happened (between Carroll-Trinity) because the "any given day" is a fact.

Right now, Southlake Carroll is enjoying a run of form that hasn't been seen in this state in a long time given the balance of talent these days. What Carroll is doing right now is absolutely incredible, and there's really no other way to say it that I know of. They've been both good and lucky for four seasons now. It's tough enough for most to have that happen one year out of 20-50, let alone four years in a row. It really does defy logic.

In recent years, only programs like Katy, Judson and Midland Lee really come close to Carroll as far as multiple championship runs in a shorter period of time. Katy's been to six state championship games in the last nine seasons. Judson's been to three or four in the last 10 seasons. Midland Lee went to three in a row from 98-2000.

[drgnbkr]

It's a shame we even have to discuss things like this. I won't go into another playoff system rant though. I'll spare everyone.

I think it's awfully easy to say you aren't intimidated by someone when you've never been on the field against them. Trinity has a very good program, but it'll take an entirely new level of sustained success to accomplish what some of the more storied programs in the state have.

No one really knows what would have happened (between Carroll-Trinity) because the "any given day" is a fact.

Right now, Southlake Carroll is enjoying a run of form that hasn't been seen in this state in a long time given the balance of talent these days. What Carroll is doing right now is absolutely incredible, and there's really no other way to say it that I know of. They've been both good and lucky for four seasons now. It's tough enough for most to have that happen one year out of 20-50, let alone four years in a row. It really does defy logic.

In recent years, only programs like Katy, Judson and Midland Lee really come close to Carroll as far as multiple championship runs in a shorter period of time. Katy's been to six state championship games in the last nine seasons. Judson's been to three or four in the last 10 seasons. Midland Lee went to three in a row from 98-2000.

KT, I've been here in Southlake for 13 years..IMO, the success of the Dragons is somehow related to the convergence of a top notch program used to winning for 20 years, finally reaching the size that provides the numbers of good athletes, combining at the perfect time with one of the best, most creative coaches to come along in a long time. Coach Dodge has that special gift of making the kids put out that extra effort while seeming to be so calm...just my opinion.