does anyone still run the single wing offense

[slorch]

With the advent of the spread and spread-option, many schools are ditching the run based offenses that were prominent up through the 80's such as the veer, the wishbone, and the single wing.
If you've ever played against the single wing, it's an adventure. It is very unorthodox by today's standard. There is no true QB. the guy calling the snap is over on the right side behind the tackle, and when the ball is snapped, backs go everywhere for counter plays and in one direction for a sweep.
Wichita Falls High was the only school I had seen run it and they stopped in the early 90's. It was fun to play them because it was SO different.

Does anyone out there know if any other schools run this offense?

[KT2000]

I haven't heard of any on the 5A level, but know there are programs in the lower classes that probably run it.

I can't imagine what trying to game plan for something like that would be like today with different versions of the spread in high demand.

A&M Consolidated still runs a Wing T/Flexbone influenced offense that is unique and tough to defend. I know Garland still runs some Wing T. I'm not sure what Berkner runs mostly with the Johnson brothers, but I'd guess Shotgun Option.

I enjoy watching the 96 state title game of Lewisville-Judson and seeing the Farmers break out the T formation and wishbone. Option football at its finest in that game.

[South Texas]

Go look at small schools across the state, especially in south texas.

[blueraiders11]

We ran a Wishbone offense in 2000-2004. It was successful against slower teams, which is why we did well with it against teams like Grapevine, Colleyville, Keller, because they weren't fast teams. But when we moved into 6-5A against teams with some of the top team speed in the state it wasn't as effective and was shut down a lot. But a good passing game will always make a Wishbone offense effective, I think that is the key to a succesful wishbone.

[odessapermian.com]

With the advent of the spread and spread-option, many schools are ditching the run based offenses that were prominent up through the 80's such as the veer, the wishbone, and the single wing.
If you've ever played against the single wing, it's an adventure. It is very unorthodox by today's standard. There is no true QB. the guy calling the snap is over on the right side behind the tackle, and when the ball is snapped, backs go everywhere for counter plays and in one direction for a sweep.
Wichita Falls High was the only school I had seen run it and they stopped in the early 90's. It was fun to play them because it was SO different.

Does anyone out there know if any other schools run this offense?

I thought there was a school in the greater Houston area that was running it a couple of years ago. Somebody like Klein or Cypress Whoever, somebody like that. I recall seeing it discussed on the Old Coach. They may not be running it now.

[CKE]

what offense does san marcos run i think they have a couple plays out of the single wing i might be wrong

[KT2000]

Mojo,

You might be thinking of Klein Collins. They run a unique offense, but not sure if it's a true single wing.

[bucky58]

San Marcos runs the Slot- T

[forest99]

Mojo,

You might be thinking of Klein Collins. They run a unique offense, but not sure if it's a true single wing.
absolutely not...two years ago they ran a double wing option offense...theyre qb (cameron luke) and one tb (michael goodson), both getting d1 scholorships...wow, that was a good off!!!! and actually sometimes they ran a few tricky plays and covered a te up with a wing on the line....so if you werent careful you wasted a player on def covering that te that couldnt go out for a pass anyways...but of course now they dont have that kind of good athlete...so it doesnt look nearly as great!!!

[KT2000]

It's funny how that happens, conroe05 :) . Good players have a way of raising the game. Luke, Yancy and Goodson was a nice combo.

[forest99]

It's funny how that happens, conroe05 :) . Good players have a way of raising the game. Luke, Yancy and Goodson was a nice combo.
ya, i think they dropped almost 50 on us that year!!!! and we run a 3-4...they still beat us to the outside!!!

[supercentex]

Mojo,

You might be thinking of Klein Collins. They run a unique offense, but not sure if it's a true single wing.

Yeah, it was a true single wing. They did well in the playoffs ....it wasn't Collins tho...it was someone else. It was two or three years ago........

[slorch]

I thought there was a school in the greater Houston area that was running it a couple of years ago. Somebody like Klein or Cypress Whoever, somebody like that. I recall seeing it discussed on the Old Coach. They may not be running it now.
I have a friend at work whose son plays for Klein. I saw them play last year, and they pretty much run an I offense. I don't know about the Cypress schools.

[supercentex]

I'm thinking it was Klein Oak..........

[supercentex]

damn i'm good.....but they didn't make the playoffs...they did beat the crap out of The Woodlands with it tho....I bet everyone figured it out after that and the coaches had the kids taking the class single wing 101


Paper: Houston Chronicle
Date: SUN 12/22/2002
Section: Sports
Page: 13
Edition: 4 STAR

BLAST FROM THE PAST / Klein Oak's single-wing attack helps Brown evolve as a back

By MK BOWER
Staff

Take a look at Klein Oak tailback Derrick Brown Jr. and you see the complete package - a chiseled 198 pounds on a 5-11 1/2 frame with 4.41 speed. Brown is equal parts bruiser and speedster, adept at pounding away between the tackles or running past cornerbacks.

The finished product Texas A&M will receive next fall is a result of loads of work in the weight room on Brown's part, solid guidance from Brown's father and an old-school offense installed by Panthers coach David Smith before the start of the 2001 season.

"This was the best thing for Derrick as far as developing toughness," Smith said of the single-wing attack used by Klein Oak. "This offense will make you be tough."

The single wing, created by legendary Notre Dame coach Knute Rockne, features a trio of tightly bunched players in the backfield. The "trigger" is the catalyst in the run-oriented offense and operates behind a blocking overload at the point of attack.

After coming away disappointed with the lack of physical play by his team in 2000, Smith turned to co-offensive coordinators Jeff Poth and John Sotolongo for a remedy.

They hit upon the idea of implementing the single wing, and their decision ultimately played a role in the rapid development of Brown.

As a sophomore, Brown showed flashes of what was to come. Even though he weighed only 165 pounds and played in just three games, Brown averaged 10.5 yards per carry in a more traditional multiple-I set.

In the first scrimmage with the single wing against their defense in the spring of 2001, Brown and his offensive mates mounted an 18-play scoring drive on the first series. Smith was convinced he made the right decision, and Brown had the means to rebound from a disappointing sophomore season.

"I thought I had to come out my junior year and prove something to everybody," Brown said. "I had to make up for my sophomore year."

Klein Oak got off to a quick start, winning all three of its non-district games against teams obviously baffled by the seldom-used and antiquated formation. Brown rushed for 513 yards and eight touchdowns in those three wins, setting the tone for what would be a fabulous junior season.

"Most defenses couldn't get ready for it," Brown said. "When they first saw it, they were like, `Man, what is this?' They were used to seeing I-formation or two-backs, and when they saw three guys in the hole, it was a whole different story. It was a big difference."

So much so that Brown ended up leading the Greater Houston area with 2,236 yards rushing and 26 touchdowns. His most memorable performance came against The Woodlands, at the time the top-ranked team in the state. Brown rushed for 285 yards and five touchdowns in a 36-6 upset victory.

Despite its offensive turnaround, Klein Oak finished the season 6-4 and just missed qualifying for the playoffs. But for Brown, the transformation was nearly complete.

As a freshman at Oak Ridge, Brown was so young (he will turn 18 in June) and small (5-8, 150) that his father, Derrick Sr.,who played tailback and receiver at Conroe High School, refused to let him compete on the varsity. Two years later, an offense so quirky that a group of aficionados meets annually in North Carolina to extol its virtues and relive its past, combined with a strong work ethic, landed Brown a scholarship offer from the Aggies, where his mother's first cousin, Johnny Holland, starred before heading to the NFL.

With district foes having had a year to prepare for the single wing, Brown rushed for 1,647 yards and 15 touchdowns this season. But the toughness he developed was evident against Alvin, when he rushed for 201 yards, scored two touchdowns and threw for another score - all with an injured right hamstring, a hip-pointer and an upset stomach as a result of rushing through his pre-game meal.

"I thought I did pretty well, but people were stacking the line against us and were used to it now that it was the second year," Brown said. "It was a lot harder, but I knew that I had to fight for my team and carry them on my back. I had to do what I had to do.

"I gained a lot of knowledge. I learned a lot about defenses and about the game. And I learned how to run tough. This has helped me to become a better leader."

[LoneRocket]

With the advent of the spread and spread-option, many schools are ditching the run based offenses that were prominent up through the 80's such as the veer, the wishbone, and the single wing.
If you've ever played against the single wing, it's an adventure. It is very unorthodox by today's standard. There is no true QB. the guy calling the snap is over on the right side behind the tackle, and when the ball is snapped, backs go everywhere for counter plays and in one direction for a sweep.
Wichita Falls High was the only school I had seen run it and they stopped in the early 90's. It was fun to play them because it was SO different.

Does anyone out there know if any other schools run this offense?
Does Carter run something close to the Wing-T.

[supercentex]

Does Carter run something close to the Wing-T.

Yeah..Carter runs the wing-t.........they have the old John-Tyler offense....not sure if they do like JT did with rotating about 10 different running backs during the game.

[eaglefan4life]

Doesn't plano run some wishbone???

[lonny23]

With the advent of the spread and spread-option, many schools are ditching the run based offenses that were prominent up through the 80's such as the veer, the wishbone, and the single wing.
If you've ever played against the single wing, it's an adventure. It is very unorthodox by today's standard. There is no true QB. the guy calling the snap is over on the right side behind the tackle, and when the ball is snapped, backs go everywhere for counter plays and in one direction for a sweep.
Wichita Falls High was the only school I had seen run it and they stopped in the early 90's. It was fun to play them because it was SO different.

Does anyone out there know if any other schools run this offense?
When I saw the title, the first thing I thought of was the Wichita Falls Coyotes because they were the most prevalent team to run it and for a long time, too. I don't know if anybody runs it now.

[lonny23]

I haven't heard of any on the 5A level, but know there are programs in the lower classes that probably run it.

I can't imagine what trying to game plan for something like that would be like today with different versions of the spread in high demand.

A&M Consolidated still runs a Wing T/Flexbone influenced offense that is unique and tough to defend. I know Garland still runs some Wing T. I'm not sure what Berkner runs mostly with the Johnson brothers, but I'd guess Shotgun Option.

I enjoy watching the 96 state title game of Lewisville-Judson and seeing the Farmers break out the T formation and wishbone. Option football at its finest in that game.
Plan for a post from Farmerfan!:p

He can give you a whole dissertation on how the Farmers ran for over 500 yards that day!:D

Farmer, don't you have a trip to Florida to plan?:D

[supercentex]

Doesn't plano run some wishbone???
veer

[dragonsdaddy]

Plan for a post from Farmerfan!:p

He can give you a whole dissertation on how the Farmers ran for over 500 yards that day!:D

Farmer, don't you have a trip to Florida to plan?:D
he's already wearing sun suntan lotion as we type. he was pretty pale last time we met.

[lonny23]

he's already wearing sun suntan lotion as we type. he was pretty pale last time we met.
I spoke to him on the phone a few days ago, but didn't know what day he was going to leave.

[ACM Dad]

I'm not sure what you call the ACM offense, like KT said earlier, WingT... Flexbone? okay. Sort of that Utah offense from a few years back.

I like to watch them run it though. I've been watching it for several years now. The other teams in 13-5a have seen a lot of it and often have good schemes on defending it. But, once into the playoffs, it's not something our opponents see much of. It's hard to defend against. It's confusing to the defenders in the box as they just never know who's getting the ball. Plus, add in that there seems to always be a guard and/or tackle pulling on every play. Mis-direction in the backfield and on the line.

[Warbird]

AHS runs the wishbone in short yardage situations. :cool: