new two headed monster

[slc0204]

when daniel and luna were juniors they lead slc to state can dodge and newton do it this year they are the fastest back field in the state and one of them can through scary! dodge ran a 4.42 this week in off-season and newton ran a 4.5 how do u think teams r going to be able to stop that?

[yankee]

when daniel and luna were juniors they lead slc to state can dodge and newton do it this year they are the fastest back field in the state and one of them can through scary! dodge ran a 4.42 this week in off-season and newton ran a 4.5 how do u think teams r going to be able to stop that?
by tackling them?:p yes, it will be scary to watch them go around defenders.

[VB Pack Fan]

There are plenty kids that run fast, these 40 times that every school boast on are really no indecation of anything I have found out. This is team football. We had as many kids with the kind of times and only one tittle.

[dragons08]

and riley has pretty good arm stregth as well...stopping the pass, dont worry lets run it..stopping hte run, sit back and throw...

another scary dragons offense

[PackAttack2005]

Guys it will take more than a Dodge and Newton combo to perform the monster routine. You are experiencing for the first time, something you haven't had to deal with since arriving in 5A. Now, I am not saying SLC will not be a good team, but losing 52 seniors in one year will have it's effect on the Dragons in 2006, at least early on in your season you will learn from your losses.

[dragons08]

Guys it will take more than a Dodge and Newton combo to perform the monster routine. You are experiencing for the first time, something you haven't had to deal with since arriving in 5A. Now, I am not saying SLC will not be a good team, but losing 52 seniors in one year will have it's effect on the Dragons in 2006, at least early on in your season you will learn from your losses.
i know....but i have a feeling dodge was preparing for this year last year as well, so these kids will more likely than not, be ready to just step right into the system and 'protect the tradtion'

[drgnbkr]

Guys it will take more than a Dodge and Newton combo to perform the monster routine. You are experiencing for the first time, something you haven't had to deal with since arriving in 5A. Now, I am not saying SLC will not be a good team, but losing 52 seniors in one year will have it's effect on the Dragons in 2006, at least early on in your season you will learn from your losses.

Losses? What are those?....:D

[dragons08]

Losses? What are those?....:D
i think, the opposite of what we've been doing :D

[PackAttack2005]

I am sorry, it is inevitable that Southlake WILL lose a game and not win the State Championship, it may or may not be in 2006 but it will happen. My feeling is this year will be the best opportunity to bag a Dragon. On the flip side, I think 2007 might be a Dragon year to remember.

[SLC fan]

I am sorry, it is inevitable that Southlake WILL lose a game and not win the State Championship, it may or may not be in 2006 but it will happen. My feeling is this year will be the best opportunity to bag a Dragon. On the flip side, I think 2007 might be a Dragon year to remember.

But you said that we'll learn from our losses *early* in the season. Just out of curiosity, who do you see us losing to? Lake Highlands? Evangel? Rockwall? Grapevine? Heritage?

[dragonsfan]

I am sorry, it is inevitable that Southlake WILL lose a game and not win the State Championship, it may or may not be in 2006 but it will happen. My feeling is this year will be the best opportunity to bag a Dragon. On the flip side, I think 2007 might be a Dragon year to remember.

Not an unreasonable observation. A virtually new wide reciever group and many new linemen on both sides will present a challenge. 2006 will be interesting and 2007 could be a gem.

[PackAttack2005]

Rockwall and Grapevine have an excellent chance.

[dragonsfan]

Based on last year's game, one could say Grapevine has a chance, but they lost their quarterback to graduation and I haven't heard anything about their new offensive leaders, as compared to what I hear (and saw) regarding Riley Dodge and Tre Newton.
I don't know anything about Rockwall other than they had a decent year in a tough district.

[dragons06]

There are plenty kids that run fast, these 40 times that every school boast on are really no indecation of anything I have found out. This is team football. We had as many kids with the kind of times and only one tittle.
Thats the difference between SLC and Lufkin

[c-lisle]

when daniel and luna were juniors they lead slc to state can dodge and newton do it this year they are the fastest back field in the state and one of them can through scary! dodge ran a 4.42 this week in off-season and newton ran a 4.5 how do u think teams r going to be able to stop that?


you will come across the right defense that will stop both of them running. you might want to stick to what has made you so dominant.....passing.

[KT2000]

Given the schedule, I don't see Carroll really even threatened until the playoffs unless they hit an injury problem or something.

The new alignment put Carroll in a district similar to what they were in during their first two years in 5A.

Don't forget how much Carroll had to replace in 2003. They lost their entire receiving corps and defense. Also, they lost Chase Wasson at QB and replaced him with a converted WR (Chase Daniel).

This is not the first time Carroll has had to replace a lot of graduated talent. If they have decent receivers and another good OL, they will put up ridiculous numbers with Dodge and Newton starting everything in the backfield.

[drgnbkr]

Given the schedule, I don't see Carroll really even threatened until the playoffs unless they hit an injury problem or something.

The new alignment put Carroll in a district similar to what they were in during their first two years in 5A.

Don't forget how much Carroll had to replace in 2003. They lost their entire receiving corps and defense. Also, they lost Chase Wasson at QB and replaced him with a converted WR (Chase Daniel).

This is not the first time Carroll has had to replace a lot of graduated talent. If they have decent receivers and another good OL, they will put up ridiculous numbers with Dodge and Newton starting everything in the backfield.

These kids have been learning this system since the 7th grade..last year was the first group to go through Dodges system from the 7th on....We'll see...can't wait till 7 on 7 to get a look at the "new guys"

[KT2000]

Does Carroll play spring ball? If so, you only have to wait a couple months.

[drgnbkr]

Does Carroll play spring ball? If so, you only have to wait a couple months.


Yeah, your right! It does come a little quicker...7 on 7 is a little more condensed, making it easier to isolate on the positions...

[bubbacoach]

My school
QB 4.47
FB 4.61
TB 4.52

but none of this speed matters, it is on a track in track spikes. Put the shoulder pads and helmet on and then run a 40 to see what kind of football speed kids have.

[DrEdward]

Does Carroll play spring ball? If so, you only have to wait a couple months.

Yes, Carroll plays spring football.

[Sakatha]

Speed alone means nothing...

Just ask Alexander Wright.

~DnM

[Jaws89]

when daniel and luna were juniors they lead slc to state can dodge and newton do it this year they are the fastest back field in the state and one of them can through scary! dodge ran a 4.42 this week in off-season and newton ran a 4.5 how do u think teams r going to be able to stop that?


sOUTHLAKE cARROLL will win every game ... every year ... until the rapture occurs ... right ?

sOUTLAKE cARROLL is "God's" team ... totally unstoppable ... totally unbeatable ... I am not even sure why teams continue to play them ... opposing teams should just forfeit to save the public humiliation, right ?

:eek: :eek: sOUTLAKE :eek: cARROLL :eek: :eek:

[McC Insider]

Given the schedule, I don't see Carroll really even threatened until the playoffs unless they hit an injury problem or something.

The new alignment put Carroll in a district similar to what they were in during their first two years in 5A.

Don't forget how much Carroll had to replace in 2003. They lost their entire receiving corps and defense. Also, they lost Chase Wasson at QB and replaced him with a converted WR (Chase Daniel).

This is not the first time Carroll has had to replace a lot of graduated talent. If they have decent receivers and another good OL, they will put up ridiculous numbers with Dodge and Newton starting everything in the backfield.

what is the schedule

[RGVBadBoy]

I dont see SLC having any problems next season....Riley Dodge running a 4.42 40 sounds pretty DARN impressive...i think it'll come down to the WRs, SLC runs a HECK of a zone block scheme for the OLinemen and Riley having 4.4 speed takes a HECK of alot of pressure OFF the Oline...

I think IF, Blake Cantu and Co. at the WR position can get open, SLC can win....

oh, and i think the ONLY team that has a SHOT at SLC next season is Evangel, and i dont think its a good one..

[Daniel Agnew]

But you said that we'll learn from our losses *early* in the season. Just out of curiosity, who do you see us losing to? Lake Highlands? Evangel? Rockwall? Grapevine? Heritage?


Lake Highlands-no, Evangel-no depth will hurt them, Rockwall-absolutely not that will be over with by halftime, Grapevine-good game but Carroll pulls this out, Heritage-no.

If they do lose Lufkin will be the team that beats them.

[ALLIN]

"If SLC does lose, Lufkin will be the team to beat them" That has been said before, for the last 3 or 4 years. Lufkin will be super tough this year, but if SLC makes it to the 5th round and is undefeated again, anything can happen. By then, they will be firing on all cylinders (both teams hopefully). How many more months??????????

[drgnbkr]

Can't wait till the spring game and then 7 on 7...we'll see what we got...

[Sakatha]

Can't wait till the spring game and then 7 on 7...we'll see what we got...

Spring Game, sure.. 7 on 7? Eh, not so much.

7 on 7, in recent years, hasn't been our strong suit. It's only good for getting some timing down between Riley and his receivers...

~DnM

[slc0204]

their first one will be at heritage and it will be before school is out and dodge makes them run their offense

[drgnbkr]

Spring Game, sure.. 7 on 7? Eh, not so much.

7 on 7, in recent years, hasn't been our strong suit. It's only good for getting some timing down between Riley and his receivers...

~DnM

I agree..7 on 7 is about timing and route running...I just like to see the skill players in the informal setting...you can see well and get a quick read on who's going to be where...

[Sakatha]

I agree..7 on 7 is about timing and route running...I just like to see the skill players in the informal setting...you can see well and get a quick read on who's going to be where...

Couldn't agree more... 7 on 7 gives me my 'fix'.. :)

I can't wait, frankly. Can't wait to see Cantu, and can't wait to see how Riley handles it.

~DnM

[drgnbkr]

Couldn't agree more... 7 on 7 gives me my 'fix'.. :)

I can't wait, frankly. Can't wait to see Cantu, and can't wait to see how Riley handles it.

~DnM

Yeah, the offense is going to change a lot..more like 02 & 04.. it will go back to the running threat being the driving force...Riley will surprise people with his ability to throw, after last season being mostly on the run. He has amazing touch with the ball & I believe he will develop the ability to throw the long ball..As the new O-line develops, he will take the pressure off of them with his mobility, Trey will have matured a lot, picking up the blocking role..can't wait!

[SLCDRGN]

When is the SLC spring game?

[Sakatha]

When is the SLC spring game?

I wish I knew... Please post if you find out.

~DnM

[drgnbkr]

Sometime in the spring.....:rolleyes:

[dragons08]

Sometime in the spring.....:rolleyes:
no way.. a spring game in spring? impossible! :rolleyes:

[stangsalltheway]

okay so all this talk about Riley Dodge and Tre Newton is getting old..... ya Tre can play some ball and riley can scramble good, big deal.......

but another topic should be about Grapevines Sophmore class, 10 sophmores on varsity, 6 of which started and 5 of those got honorable mention all district, and the biggest impact of those 10 was from Kale Gelles and Ethan Davis the two stud outside linebackers, Ethan got sophmore defensive player of the year w/ 7 interceptions and Kale was 2nd on the team in tackles..........
those 2 players WILL stop Riley and Tre... no doubt

[CKE]

okay so all this talk about Riley Dodge and Tre Newton is getting old..... ya Tre can play some ball and riley can scramble good, big deal.......

but another topic should be about Grapevines Sophmore class, 10 sophmores on varsity, 6 of which started and 5 of those got honorable mention all district, and the biggest impact of those 10 was from Kale Gelles and Ethan Davis the two stud outside linebackers, Ethan got sophmore defensive player of the year w/ 7 interceptions and Kale was 2nd on the team in tackles..........
those 2 players WILL stop Riley and Tre... no doubt


lol hey guys come over to two headed monster theres a funny new kid in this thread

[dragons08]

okay so all this talk about Riley Dodge and Tre Newton is getting old..... ya Tre can play some ball and riley can scramble good, big deal.......

but another topic should be about Grapevines Sophmore class, 10 sophmores on varsity, 6 of which started and 5 of those got honorable mention all district, and the biggest impact of those 10 was from Kale Gelles and Ethan Davis the two stud outside linebackers, Ethan got sophmore defensive player of the year w/ 7 interceptions and Kale was 2nd on the team in tackles..........
those 2 players WILL stop Riley and Tre... no doubt
i guess you are entitled till your thoughts, whens the throwndown this year? i'll meet up with you after the game, and be like 'remember when you said riley and tre will be stopped?' then tell you the stats..Riley Dodge Passing Yards: 350 Rushing:75-100.....i dont know if you know this or not, but riley has an arm as well! just liek chase daniel, has the speed and the arm

[dragons08]

lol hey guys come over to two headed monster theres a funny new kid in this thread
wow, you just posted that, in THE thread..not sure where your going wit hthat

[CKE]

wow, you just posted that, in THE thread..not sure where your going wit hthat

that was the loke smart one lol wow

[dragons08]

that was the loke smart one lol wow
played out to its desinated effect it appears..:rolleyes:

[CKE]

played out to its desinated effect it appears..:rolleyes:

you came.................

[dragons08]

you came.................
well, i can see a thread has a new post, i cant see what the post is till after i open it..i knew it was a southlake thread, so i opened, and thought thered be some SLC bashing, and iwas right

[CKE]

well, i can see a thread has a new post, i cant see what the post is till after i open it..i knew it was a southlake thread, so i opened, and thought thered be some SLC bashing, and iwas right

then dont you think others will do that as well

[slc0204]

grapevine make the playoffs then u can talk about ur players!!!!!!! where national and state champs and we had two sophomores playing big roles on winning that champioship and yall had what ever many sophomores but yall didnt even make it to the playoffs and these two contributed on helping us win state !!!!!!!!!!

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

when daniel and luna were juniors they lead slc to state can dodge and newton do it this year they are the fastest back field in the state and one of them can through scary! dodge ran a 4.42 this week in off-season and newton ran a 4.5 how do u think teams r going to be able to stop that?

Plano is shaking in the cleats. :eek: Might as well give you the state trophy for your 40 times.

Can't wait when you SLC DOESN't win State next year. I'm sure many of the posters would fill the same after reading your little comment.

[stangsalltheway]

alright, we will see after the game......
and might i remember that your crowd was quite the entire game up until that interception at the end, and guess what............ we have a better team this comming year and dont i remember that yall lost 52 seniors, ya that will hurt, also im pretty sure w/ the exeption of the new kid yall RECRUITED that your receiving core will be the ones our jv team faced, and that receiving group was TERRIBLE, our JV team consisted of some juniors but mostly sophmores, and our db's were kids who you would think would never play football, and they held those receivers............ whats up???

[maurader]

Damn. What the?

[dragons08]

alright, we will see after the game......
and might i remember that your crowd was quite the entire game up until that interception at the end, and guess what............ we have a better team this comming year and dont i remember that yall lost 52 seniors, ya that will hurt, also im pretty sure w/ the exeption of the new kid yall RECRUITED that your receiving core will be the ones our jv team faced, and that receiving group was TERRIBLE, our JV team consisted of some juniors but mostly sophmores, and our db's were kids who you would think would never play football, and they held those receivers............ whats up???
whats up? oh nothing really, just some kid, whos team didnt make the playoffs last year talking trash due to envy!

yes, we lost 52 seniors..ever here of fitting into the system? or PRACTING to get better, heck dodge prepared for this last year, by giving a lot of PT to the backups! my bet is you have no idea how hard they work, the cloest you guys came was by writing "Go Stangs, this is forever" on the weight room door, which was still there last i was there (januaryish), thats the closet to seeing how winners take care of things (besides on the field)..i'll let you gloat about your team, then when the game is over, i'll gloat about how i was right

[dragons08]

Damn. What the?
just a jealous gpvine punk talking trash it appears

[CKE]

lol there is like 3 arguments going on in this thread

[gritty52]

This might get good once the season starts. You folks are getting pretty frisky and we haven't even started. Keep it up I like to read it!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D

[stangsalltheway]

just a jealous gpvine punk talking trash it appears
hey just a quick lil question for this "dragons08".... do you even play football???

[dragons08]

hey just a quick lil question for this "dragons08".... do you even play football???
nope, and it doesnt matter..i used logic and reasoning to prove my point, you just through out thoughts and wanted me to except them as facts..its okay, i'll let you feel superior to me :rolleyes:

[stangsalltheway]

nope, and it doesnt matter..i used logic and reasoning to prove my point, you just through out thoughts and wanted me to except them as facts..its okay, i'll let you feel superior to me :rolleyes:
alright thats what i thought, b/c you can tell that you have never played a down of football in your life........ good talking 2 you, maybe i will see you playing your lil trumpet up in the all mighty southlake carrol band next year

best of luck 2 you

[dragons08]

alright thats what i thought, b/c you can tell that you have never played a down of football in your life........ good talking 2 you, maybe i will see you playing your lil trumpet up in the all mighty southlake carrol band next year

best of luck 2 you
oh man, that hurt reallllllll bad, telling a band kid he's a loser? i dont know how'll i'll be able to recover from that almighty diss you just sent my way..btw i play sax..

[CKE]

alright thats what i thought, b/c you can tell that you have never played a down of football in your life........ good talking 2 you, maybe i will see you playing your lil trumpet up in the all mighty southlake carrol band next year

best of luck 2 you

hey bud i have a question for you ever played in a state game???? thats what i thought because you can tell by the school you go to you never have. if you want to act superior to people below you then you better get on your knees and start kissing my feet. maybe i will see you in the.............o wait grapevine has never been in a 5a title game my bad dude my bad.



O but best of luck to you

[dragons08]

hey bud i have a question for you ever played in a state game???? thats what i thought because you can tell by the school you go to you never have. if you want to act superior to people below you then you better get on your knees and start kissing my feet. maybe i will see you in the.............o wait grapevine has never been in a 5a title game man bad dude my bad.



O but best of luck to you
hahahahaha nice cool nice...see stangsalltheway, cool took my side and he played football in a state games against carroll..

[SeguinMatadors]

hey bud i have a question for you ever played in a state game???? thats what i thought because you can tell by the school you go to you never have. if you want to act superior to people below you then you better get on your knees and start kissing my feet. maybe i will see you in the.............o wait grapevine has never been in a 5a title game my bad dude my bad.



O but best of luck to you

My boy cool just laid the smackkkkk down... lol well done.

[Jtate862003]

Ill take SLC over anyone...only team(s) that comes close to beating them this year will be the teams in the playoffs being Lufkin/katy/SV other than that good luck to eveyone else...and hey Stangs dude when yall loose to SLC this year be sure and come back to the board and eat your crow ok? Until then noone cares about how many sophmore and jr all stars yall had because while SLC was playing ball yall were at home with your moms helping cook pie for christmas dinner!

[DragonWatcher]

alright thats what i thought, b/c you can tell that you have never played a down of football in your life........ good talking 2 you, maybe i will see you playing your lil trumpet up in the all mighty southlake carrol band next year

best of luck 2 you

At least D08 can say he's associated with a winning team, more than anyone from grapevine can say. I mean its been what? ten years since you won a 4a state championship with 5a numbers? Thats real talent right there. And I played the trumpet, its a bad @$$ instrument. Having to resort to graffiti to "win" and feel a sense of accomplishment is pathetic.

[CKE]

Ill take SLC over anyone...only team(s) that comes close to beating them this year will be the teams in the playoffs being Lufkin/katy/SV other than that good luck to eveyone else...and hey Stangs dude when yall loose to SLC this year be sure and come back to the board and eat your crow ok? Until then noone cares about how many sophmore and jr all stars yall had because while SLC was playing ball yall were at home with your moms helping cook pie for christmas dinner!

very nice and i agree he better be back to eat crow

[drgnbkr]

alright, we will see after the game......
and might i remember that your crowd was quite the entire game up until that interception at the end, and guess what............ we have a better team this comming year and dont i remember that yall lost 52 seniors, ya that will hurt, also im pretty sure w/ the exeption of the new kid yall RECRUITED that your receiving core will be the ones our jv team faced, and that receiving group was TERRIBLE, our JV team consisted of some juniors but mostly sophmores, and our db's were kids who you would think would never play football, and they held those receivers............ whats up???

stangsalltheway...? What a misnomer that is! Our crowd was "quite"?? We had more people there than the home team Mustangs..Sad...Get a grip....It must be tough looking at the scoreboard year after year....The team with the most points wins..right?

[clemensbuff]

when daniel and luna were juniors they lead slc to state can dodge and newton do it this year they are the fastest back field in the state and one of them can through scary! dodge ran a 4.42 this week in off-season and newton ran a 4.5 how do u think teams r going to be able to stop that?

Very impressive indeed! There is no way to stop that type of talent. But you can slow it way down by having a D-line that can overpower the Dragons O-line with quick penetration into the backfield and have linebackers that are extremely quick and can make one-on-one open field tackles when Dodge and Newton do get out of the backfield! The problem is that with the offense SLC runs and the way that these kids learn and play this system, they will still be able to succeed even against the best defenses. So, bottom line is, they won't be stopped entirely by anyone, but they could be slowed down a step or two be a defense that has the physical ability and is very well coached.

[drgnbkr]

Very impressive indeed! There is no way to stop that type of talent. But you can slow it way down by having a D-line that can overpower the Dragons O-line with quick penetration into the backfield and have linebackers that are extremely quick and can make one-on-one open field tackles when Dodge and Newton do get out of the backfield! The problem is that with the offense SLC runs and the way that these kids learn and play this system, they will still be able to succeed even against the best defenses. So, bottom line is, they won't be stopped entirely by anyone, but they could be slowed down a step or two be a defense that has the physical ability and is very well coached.

The Dragons offense will get their points until the defenses catch up with "Dodge Ball", so I don't know if the defense is the key as much as an offense that can contol the ball & the clock vs. the Dragon's defense..ie. Katy 03. As we've often said post the 03 title game, Coach Dodge said "everytime the Dragons O got the ball, there were only 3 minutes left in the quarter"...

[slc0204]

why arent u talking now stangsalltheway u can start talking when yall make the playoffs u have no class and i cant WAIt till we play u will see me running up and down the field on yall

[stangsalltheway]

why arent u talking now stangsalltheway u can start talking when yall make the playoffs u have no class and i cant WAIt till we play u will see me running up and down the field on yall
im not talkin b/c someone goes 2 school and runs track.... so my bad

but ya next year will be an interesting season for district 5-5A, it looks like carrol will be doin more of a qb/rb option or just handin the ball 2 tre, which tre can run the ball he has proven that, im just sayin we got almost our entire defense back so it will be a smash mouth football game

[DragonWatcher]

im not talkin b/c someone goes 2 school and runs track.... so my bad

but ya next year will be an interesting season for district 5-5A, it looks like carrol will be doin more of a qb/rb option or just handin the ball 2 tre, which tre can run the ball he has proven that, im just sayin we got almost are entire defense back so it will be a smash mouth football game

Our is possisive, are is a verb. I'd spend a little more time in the classroom than the track if I were you before insulting a smart D08.

[dragons08]

Our is possisive, are is a verb. I'd spend a little more time in the classroom than the track if I were you before insulting a smart D08.
haha thanks dude, but d08 and smart in the same sentence though? that may be pushing it :D

[DragonWatcher]

Would competent be a better adjective then lol?

[CKE]

im not talkin b/c someone goes 2 school and runs track.... so my bad

but ya next year will be an interesting season for district 5-5A, it looks like carrol will be doin more of a qb/rb option or just handin the ball 2 tre, which tre can run the ball he has proven that, im just sayin we got almost our entire defense back so it will be a smash mouth football game


soooooooo why didnt you respond to me then man :confused:

[dragons08]

soooooooo why didnt you respond to me then man :confused:
seems hes afraid my friend

[CKE]

seems hes afraid my friend

it seems he is

[dragonsdaddy]

Our is possisive, are is a verb. I'd spend a little more time in the classroom than the track if I were you before insulting a smart D08.
hint- when you start to correct others' grammar /english usage, don't misspell a word in the same sentence. your ignorance tends to distract from the dis you are attempting. just a thought.

[texasboy]

I think the two headed monster is Dez Bryant and Jeremy Claybon. They proved unstoppable this past season just think how good they'll be next year. Yeah carroll is a good team but this season everything is pointing to lufkin so carroll and lufkin meeting should be the state game...well it really is the state game the winner of that game is garunteed state

[drgnbkr]

I think the two headed monster is Dez Bryant and Jeremy Claybon. They proved unstoppable this past season just think how good they'll be next year. Yeah carroll is a good team but this season everything is pointing to lufkin so carroll and lufkin meeting should be the state game...well it really is the state game the winner of that game is garunteed state

Katy or SV or others may want to void that guarantee...:D

[DragonWatcher]

hint- when you start to correct others' grammer /english usage, don't misspell a word in the same sentence. your ignorance tends to distract from the dis you are attempting. just a thought.

Whoops sorry about that, it just irritates me when someone insults the band for not having any involvement with carrolls success. Theres nothin that can pump you up quite like that eye of the tiger before kick off.

[dragonsdaddy]

Whoops sorry about that, it just irritates me when someone insults the band for not having any involvement with carrolls success. Theres nothin that can pump you up quite like that eye of the tiger before kick off.
you should do as i say not as i do. grammer-sheesh.

[dragons08]

Whoops sorry about that, it just irritates me when someone insults the band for not having any involvement with carrolls success. Theres nothin that can pump you up quite like that eye of the tiger before kick off.
i love playing eye of the tiger

[drgnbkr]

i love playing eye of the tiger

Anyone who has had to try to beat the Dragons at Dragon Stadium would love to try and drive toward the scoreboard instead of toward the Fieldhouse where the band sits....noisy bunch of kids at that end!

[dragons08]

Anyone who has had to try to beat the Dragons at Dragon Stadium would love to try and drive toward the scoreboard instead of toward the Fieldhouse where the band sits....noisy bunch of kids at that end!
its loud? it doesnt even seem that loud really

[stangsalltheway]

At least D08 can say he's associated with a winning team, more than anyone from grapevine can say. I mean its been what? ten years since you won a 4a state championship with 5a numbers? Thats real talent right there. And I played the trumpet, its a bad @$$ instrument. Having to resort to graffiti to "win" and feel a sense of accomplishment is pathetic.
well how about this.... How bout Southlake divides there school into 2 highschools like Grapevine did to make Colleyville b/c they would still have enough numbers in each school 2 be 5A and see how good yall really are. I guarentee that if gvine and cville where still together the would be whoopin some serious @$$ right now just like Southlake is. The reason that yall wont split the schools and let more kids have a chance to play and do all kinds of other things in school is because yall are 2 ego-minded and all yall care about is winning the State Championship. Let me say this one more time if Gvine and Cville where still 2gether and we did what yall did by having a senior high and a high school then we would be the ones competing every year for that State Championsip.... So why dont yall do what every other school in the state does and seperate your school to give more kids an oppurtunity to play instead of having 100 kids on varsity......... then see how good yall do after that

[dragons08]

well how about this.... How bout Southlake divides there school into 2 highschools like Grapevine did to make Colleyville b/c they would still have enough numbers in each school 2 be 5A and see how good yall really are. I guarentee that if gvine and cville where still together the would be whoopin some serious @$$ right now just like Southlake is. The reason that yall wont split the schools and let more kids have a chance to play and do all kinds of other things in school is because yall are 2 ego-minded and all yall care about is winning the State Championship. Let me say this one more time if Gvine and Cville where still 2gether and we did what yall did by having a senior high and a high school then we would be the ones competing every year for that State Championsip.... So why dont yall do what every other school in the state does and seperate your school to give more kids an oppurtunity to play instead of having 100 kids on varsity......... then see how good yall do after that
wouldnt be both 5a..both would be small 4a schools..

and how do you know that? well lets see you dont..you can say a whole bunch of what ifs....but your 'dream' is diffrent..thats 2 diffrents TOWNS (yes i know part of gpvine goes to heritage) but still southlake is ONE town, and can have ONE HS! and the HS's are rather small, compared to ONE hs of many other schools

[Firebird]

well how about this.... How bout Southlake divides there school into 2 highschools like Grapevine did to make Colleyville b/c they would still have enough numbers in each school 2 be 5A and see how good yall really are. I guarentee that if gvine and cville where still together the would be whoopin some serious @$$ right now just like Southlake is. The reason that yall wont split the schools and let more kids have a chance to play and do all kinds of other things in school is because yall are 2 ego-minded and all yall care about is winning the State Championship. Let me say this one more time if Gvine and Cville where still 2gether and we did what yall did by having a senior high and a high school then we would be the ones competing every year for that State Championsip.... So why dont yall do what every other school in the state does and seperate your school to give more kids an oppurtunity to play instead of having 100 kids on varsity......... then see how good yall do after that

Ummm SLC isn't even close to being able to split and still have two 5a schools. SLC only recently jumped to 5a, and won last years SMALL school division. They aren't even the biggest school in their district. Take that BS somewhere else, where facts don't count.

[drgnbkr]

After the Colleyvile / gvine split, Colleyville is still larger than Carroll...size obviously does'nt matter, as with Grapevine, Colley has yet to figure out how to compete with the Dragons...weak stuff stang...weak! But keep bringing it! Its entertaining......Carroll is pretty close to built out so rather than splitting, there will come a day when the Dragons drop back to 4-A...

[Drag Goon]

Stang, back to your original post....it sounds like the Stangs have some decent young players coming back. That is good to hear. They gave SLC quite a scare last season. A couple of more breaks and they may have pulled off the upset. Good luck to your team in 2006(except against SLC:) ) . I don't think they will be as good as SLC but that is why they play the game.

SLC does have some rebuilding to do. They have several good, experienced players coming back but alot of "holes" to fill. With Dodges' system in place they should continue to be strong. I think Lufkin would have to be considered the front runner out of the gate with the other usual suspects in the hunt.

I think some of us SLC fans need to be a little more humble when discussing the Dragons accomplishments. Sometimes it is in response to somebody's negative post but other times it is just trash talking. We should enjoy the ride and be thankful for the hard work the coaches and players do to be where they are. We should also know that ride will eventually end. Enjoy it while it last but continue to respect the other teams.

[mustangs9]

I agree with Drag goon. SLC does have alot of holes to fill and the only thing that yall are relying on is if Coach Dodge can rebuild this team. Grapevine will most likely have two players that are making the jump from playing JV to playing on the varsity level. SLC has more than you can count on one hand. Grapevine and Carroll are simalar because they both need new Qb's, we both have lost all recieving players but Grapevine may have to rely on their experienced defense next year with 7 returning starters.

[dragonsdaddy]

I agree with Drag goon. SLC does have alot of holes to fill and the only thing that yall are relying on is if Coach Dodge can rebuild this team. Grapevine will most likely have two players that are making the jump from playing JV to playing on the varsity level. SLC has more than you can count on one hand. Grapevine and Carroll are simalar because they both need new Qb's, we both have lost all recieving players but Grapevine may have to rely on their experienced defense next year with 7 returning starters.
please leave the opinions as facts behind. the fact is, there are lots of very talented replacements in the wings. dodge isn't just hoping someone shows up next fall. they have been preparing these kids for years. nothing is happenstance around here. these kids have an extra 12 weeks of practice the last 2 years. it all adds up to another pretty good forecast. gl to the mustangs. you lit the fires under our collective rears last year. thanks.

[mustangs9]

Thats funny because the recievers that are supose to start next year were on JV last year besides Ford and Blake Cantu. So I dont see how you think that they have been planning for this when they had junior wide recievers playing on JV last year and making the huge step from jumping from starting on JV to starting for the #1 team in the state.

[drgnbkr]

Thats funny because the recievers that are supose to start next year were on JV last year besides Ford and Blake Cantu. So I dont see how you think that they have been planning for this when they had junior wide recievers playing on JV last year and making the huge step from jumping from starting on JV to starting for the #1 team in the state.

Yeah, I guess it is funny...:confused: When your 8 deep, with the best wide receivers in the State, as Carroll was this year, your other guys are going to be on the JV so they can get the reps....if your thinking Carroll will be thin at WR, thats great..tell everyone you see...:rolleyes:

[mustangs9]

Im not talking about the class of 06 because the 05 season is over. Thats why im talking about this upcoming season.

[dragons08]

Thats funny because the recievers that are supose to start next year were on JV last year besides Ford and Blake Cantu. So I dont see how you think that they have been planning for this when they had junior wide recievers playing on JV last year and making the huge step from jumping from starting on JV to starting for the #1 team in the state.
not enough room on the roster, when you got 8 GREAT wr's, where you put the backups?

[dragons08]

Im not talking about the class of 06 because the 05 season is over. Thats why im talking about this upcoming season.
we know..last year we had 8 recievers play every game..they rotated in and out..so where would we put 4 more? not enough room for 12 recievers my friend

[dragonfootballfan]

The JV wide receivers were on the scout team and thanks to all of our district offense's. Those receivers ran Carroll's offense for 7 weeks against one of the best defenses in the state last year.

[Sakatha]

well how about this.... How bout Southlake divides there school into 2 highschools like Grapevine did to make Colleyville b/c they would still have enough numbers in each school 2 be 5A and see how good yall really are. I guarentee that if gvine and cville where still together the would be whoopin some serious @$$ right now just like Southlake is. The reason that yall wont split the schools and let more kids have a chance to play and do all kinds of other things in school is because yall are 2 ego-minded and all yall care about is winning the State Championship. Let me say this one more time if Gvine and Cville where still 2gether and we did what yall did by having a senior high and a high school then we would be the ones competing every year for that State Championsip.... So why dont yall do what every other school in the state does and seperate your school to give more kids an oppurtunity to play instead of having 100 kids on varsity......... then see how good yall do after that

People like you provide a miserable example of what your town is all about... Really embarrasing.

~DnM

[mustangs9]

wait a sec. is a person from euless,tx making fun of grapevine,tx????

[mustangs9]

^^wrong post^^

[dragons08]

wait a sec. is a person from euless,tx making fun of grapevine,tx????
either way it doesnt matter, last i checked euless has a team that won state

[mustangs9]

im not talking about their football team i am talking about their town.

[drgnbkr]

im not talking about their football team i am talking about their town.

I don't think you have any idea what your talking about......

[CKE]

I don't think you have any idea what your talking about......

i dont think so either

[dragons08]

I don't think you have any idea what your talking about......
im agreeing with my dragon amigo

[Firebird]

I think mustangs might be high.

[CKE]

I think mustangs might be high.

smokin tha reefer a lil are we lol

[stangsalltheway]

Stang, back to your original post....it sounds like the Stangs have some decent young players coming back. That is good to hear. They gave SLC quite a scare last season. A couple of more breaks and they may have pulled off the upset. Good luck to your team in 2006(except against SLC:) ) . I don't think they will be as good as SLC but that is why they play the game.

SLC does have some rebuilding to do. They have several good, experienced players coming back but alot of "holes" to fill. With Dodges' system in place they should continue to be strong. I think Lufkin would have to be considered the front runner out of the gate with the other usual suspects in the hunt.

I think some of us SLC fans need to be a little more humble when discussing the Dragons accomplishments. Sometimes it is in response to somebody's negative post but other times it is just trash talking. We should enjoy the ride and be thankful for the hard work the coaches and players do to be where they are. We should also know that ride will eventually end. Enjoy it while it last but continue to respect the other teams.
thanks dude its bout time a carrol fan on her said something halfway inteligent and halfway not conceited, thanks man

[stangsalltheway]

People like you provide a miserable example of what your town is all about... Really embarrasing.

~DnM
are you serious mister, I had to go mow lawns and beg for money to get my state ring??? ya keep on talking maybe even next time you need a new t.v. or computer you can go mow some more lawns, but thanks...

[dragons08]

are you serious mister, I had to go mow lawns and beg for money to get my state ring??? ya keep on talking maybe even next time you need a new t.v. or computer you can go mow some more lawns, but thanks...
you questioning yourself?

[dragons08]

smokin tha reefer a lil are we lol
'puff the magic dragon' the sign we see every game

[dragonsdaddy]

are you serious mister, I had to go mow lawns and beg for money to get my state ring??? ya keep on talking maybe even next time you need a new t.v. or computer you can go mow some more lawns, but thanks...
classy(not), pure classy. way to make you and your town look great all across the state.

[drgnbkr]

are you serious mister, I had to go mow lawns and beg for money to get my state ring??? ya keep on talking maybe even next time you need a new t.v. or computer you can go mow some more lawns, but thanks...

Huh?

[Sakatha]

are you serious mister, I had to go mow lawns and beg for money to get my state ring??? ya keep on talking maybe even next time you need a new t.v. or computer you can go mow some more lawns, but thanks...

I don't understand this one at all. You're doing a really great job of making my point stand, though.

~DnM

[mustangs9]

I dont see why southlake people always change the subject or make fun of someone when they get told the truth

[Sakatha]

I dont see why southlake people always change the subject or make fun of someone when they get told the truth

Where was the change of subject, and where was the 'make fun'...

I simply stated that his hostile, uncalled for comments really didn't do much to make Grapevine look good...

~DnM

[dragons08]

I dont see why southlake people always change the subject or make fun of someone when they get told the truth
change the subject?? your the one talkinga bout cutting grass

[Firebird]

are you serious mister, I had to go mow lawns and beg for money to get my state ring??? ya keep on talking maybe even next time you need a new t.v. or computer you can go mow some more lawns, but thanks...


It is useless to engage in conversation with this guy. He is tethered to reality by only the thinnest of cords. Half of what he posts is completely illucid.

[dragonsdaddy]

i've spent literally minutes thinking about how m-9" sig should read. how about, "grapevine mustangs, where they wish there were (a) tradition started." sorry it was the best i could do in the spur of the moment.

[BigJim331]

Grapevine: Where we have two, to, too chances for a state ring......but only one excuse!:p

[dragons08]

i've spent literally minutes thinking about how m-9" sig should read. how about, "grapevine mustangs, where they wish there were (a) tradition started." sorry it was the best i could do in the spur of the moment.
maybe it could be like CMS "CMS, where the dragon tradtion started" who knows what stangs is thinkin

[mustangs9]

im pretty sure we have more tradition than carroll does.considering we have been a school for 100 years.

[dragons08]

im pretty sure we have more tradition than carroll does.considering we have been a school for 100 years.
im sure, someone will pour so many stats on you, you wont know what to do or say..only a matter of time

[CCHS77]

im pretty sure we have more tradition than carroll does.considering we have been a school for 100 years.


I found this on another site. Anybody know if this is really true for Grapevine's history?

Grapevine
1st year to field 11-man UIL football team - 1920
District titles - 15
Last district title - 2001
Playoff appearances - 16
Last playoff appearance - 2003
Playoff record - 13-15-0
Best playoff showing - State Champions in 1996 (4A div-1) and 1998 (4A div-1)


Southlake Carroll
1st year to field 11-man UIL football team - 1963
District titles - 18
Last district title - 2005
Playoff appearances - 23
Last playoff appearance - 2005 (6 consecutive)
Playoff record - 72-16-1
Best playoff showing -State Champions in 1988 (3A), 1992 (3A), 1993 (3A), 2002 (5A div-2), 2004 (5A div-2) and 2005 (5A div-2)

[dragons08]

I found this on another site. Anybody know if this is really true for Grapevine's history?

Grapevine
1st year to field 11-man UIL football team - 1920
District titles - 15
Last district title - 2001
Playoff appearances - 16
Last playoff appearance - 2003
Playoff record - 13-15-0
Best playoff showing - State Champions in 1996 (4A div-1) and 1998 (4A div-1)


Southlake Carroll
1st year to field 11-man UIL football team - 1963
District titles - 18
Last district title - 2005
Playoff appearances - 23
Last playoff appearance - 2005 (6 consecutive)
Playoff record - 72-16-1
Best playoff showing -State Champions in 1988 (3A), 1992 (3A), 1993 (3A), 2002 (5A div-2), 2004 (5A div-2) and 2005 (5A div-2)
gpvine has had a 11 man team for 43 more years..and yet yeah you can figure the rest out..

that'll shut stangs up right there good work my friend

[dragonsdaddy]

gv's 2 titles were d-1 so they went 10-0. the other po appearances produced a massive 3 wins in only 85 years of trying. i remember 2 of those as they were in 03. that boils down to 1 win in the pos for the other 83 years of tradition. impressive. truly impressive. no wonder m-9 misspelled his well-thought out sig.

[CCHS77]

gv's 2 tit;es were d-1 so they went 10-0. the other po appearances produced a massive 3 wins in only 85 years of trying. i remember 2 of those as they were in 03. that boils down to 1 win in the pos for the other 83 years of tradition. impressive. truly impressive. no wonder m-9 misspelled his well-thought out sig.


dd,

That's what was bothering me about the data, I found. Was it really that bad? Take away the 10, as you did, the rest of the "body of (playoff) work" is that of a pretender.

[dragonfootballfan]

dd,

That's what was bothering me about the data, I found. Was it really that bad? Take away the 10, as you did, the rest of the "body of (playoff) work" is that of a pretender.
They have 16 playoff appearances and 12 round 1 exits.

[drgnbkr]

dd,

That's what was bothering me about the data, I found. Was it really that bad? Take away the 10, as you did, the rest of the "body of (playoff) work" is that of a pretender.

I guess we should let them enjoy themselves as they wallow in their mediocrity!........:D

[dragonsdaddy]

dd,

That's what was bothering me about the data, I found. Was it really that bad? Take away the 10, as you did, the rest of the "body of (playoff) work" is that of a pretender.
if you had seen them in the 60's and 70's as i did, you'd be surprised if it weren't so. their tradition is the polar opposite of slc's(save for the 2 titles for which they should be immensely proud.) they should have plenty of room in their trophy case.

[mustangs9]

this is my last post..i bet you guys are happy but it all comes down to who wins on friday night and i believe this year is our year (considering i talked to some slc FOOTBALL players.not some band geeks or 50 yr old. and they said that they arent going to be as good next year like everyone thinks and they might get embarrassed when they play that lousiana team. so thats were im getting all of this trash talk.

[dragonsdaddy]

this is my last post..i bet you guys are happy but it all comes down to who wins on friday night and i believe this year is our year (considering i talked to some slc FOOTBALL players.not some band geeks or 50 yr old. and they said that they arent going to be as good next year like everyone thinks and they might get embarrassed when they play that lousiana team. so thats were im getting all of this trash talk.
you were getting bum poop then. they were pulling your leg. that sort of talk isn't coming from players. maybe from some of the jr hi kids you know. there are no varsity players involved. you are really pumping up your credibility now. and the word w(h)ere has an h in it btw.

[dragonfootballfan]

this is my last post..i bet you guys are happy but it all comes down to who wins on friday night and i believe this year is our year (considering i talked to some slc FOOTBALL players.not some band geeks or 50 yr old. and they said that they arent going to be as good next year like everyone thinks and they might get embarrassed when they play that lousiana team. so thats were im getting all of this trash talk.
what happened here (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showpost.php?p=188632&postcount=73)

[dragons08]

this is my last post..i bet you guys are happy but it all comes down to who wins on friday night and i believe this year is our year (considering i talked to some slc FOOTBALL players.not some band geeks or 50 yr old. and they said that they arent going to be as good next year like everyone thinks and they might get embarrassed when they play that lousiana team. so thats were im getting all of this trash talk.
sure you werent talking to some Pee-Wee or Middle School player?

[mustangs9]

i take my last post back..but im pretty sure the kid will have some playing time on yalls varsity team next year.

[Sakatha]

i take my last post back..but im pretty sure the kid will have some playing time on yalls varsity team next year.

Your first post indicated plural... 'kids'... Now it's 'kid'?

So you got the inside 411 from *1* alleged SLC 'maybe' varsity player that ECA is gonna embarrass them? Hrrmm... I bet his name wasn't Riley, Tre', Justin, Kyle, Anthony, Arius, Blake, or any of about 20 others was it... Try asking them how they feel about their chances...

~DnM

[mustangs9]

how come you didnt name anyone on the o-line?

[dragonfootballfan]

how come you didnt name anyone on the o-line?
why aren't you naming anyone?

[dragons08]

how come you didnt name anyone on the o-line?
i belive thats still TBA..

[Sakatha]

how come you didnt name anyone on the o-line?

Pretty simple... I grabbed the first few team 'leaders' that came to mind. I have no clue what JV player you were refering to...

~DnM

[vanillagorilla]

when daniel and luna were juniors they lead slc to state can dodge and newton do it this year they are the fastest back field in the state and one of them can through scary! dodge ran a 4.42 this week in off-season and newton ran a 4.5 how do u think teams r going to be able to stop that?
fastest in the state come on guy!!

[mustangs9]

i could name about 8 returning starters on defense and 3 returning on offense compared to yalls 3 on defense and 2 on offense.

[drgnbkr]

i could name about 8 returning starters on defense and 3 returning on offense compared to yalls 3 on defense and 2 on offense.

And the last time it mattered was.......?

[dragonfootballfan]

i could name about 8 returning starters on defense and 3 returning on offense compared to yalls 3 on defense and 2 on offense.
it doesn't matter how many returning starters you have back because they weren't good enough to even make the playoffs last year

[dragons08]

i could name about 8 returning starters on defense and 3 returning on offense compared to yalls 3 on defense and 2 on offense.
okay..i challenge you name em