Lufkin dominate next year?

[texasboy]

With all the returning talent next year the lufkin panthers may be the only super team next year. The question is will there be any teams that can defeat or even contend with them next year?

[drgnbkr]

Lufkin is always very well coached and loaded with talent..next year that talent will also be loaded with experienced leadership..it's going to take a very good team, playing their best, to beat the Pack...IMO

[forest99]

dont worry big guy....i promise that once playoffs start, and even at least one non-district game, the pack will be challenged and probably beat....there are some GREAT teams across this great state of texas, and lufkin is one of them....but only 2 win the state title (in 5A)...

[drgnbkr]

dont worry big guy....i promise that once playoffs start, and even at least one non-district game, the pack will be challenged and probably beat....there are some GREAT teams across this great state of texas, and lufkin is one of them....but only 2 win the state title (in 5A)...

What? Me worry?....:cool:

[texasboy]

Well yes there are alot of greats teams in texas, but there only a few elite and it seems as though without the star team southlake carrol who has lost their star recievers no one is able to stand in their way.

[McC Insider]

Well yes there are alot of greats teams in texas, but there only a few elite and it seems as though without the star team southlake carrol who has lost their star recievers no one is able to stand in their way.


I'm sure a few people in the woodlands would disagree

[drgnbkr]

Well yes there are alot of greats teams in texas, but there only a few elite and it seems as though without the star team southlake carrol who has lost their star recievers no one is able to stand in their way.

At Carroll, we might say the older receivers have moved on, giving the new crew their chance to shine...The Dragons have reloaded before and been fairly effective...but this is about Lufkin, who will be very good next year...;)

[forest99]

I'm sure a few people in the woodlands would disagree
your right mcc insider....you totally forgot the other group, over rated losers... jk guys...calm down "teh" woodlands fans....

[TheDuke]

your right mcc insider....you totally forgot the other group, over rated losers... jk guys...calm down "teh" woodlands fans....


Why even post this? "Corn"roe:cool:

[Favpack]

Lufkin will probably have it's most explosive offensive unit ever next year. To think that Jeremy Claybon - as a complete unknown junior - eclipsed Reggie's single season passing TD mark is still hard to believe. Injuries can change that in a heartbeat - but the Pack will put points up in bunches.

The kicking game will be as good as anyone in Texas with Jaime Fernandez back one last year. The defense will have a good base, but, by no means loaded. No one really worries about D around here - but you're not going to see 3-4 all-staters on D like you may have seen in years past. Should be fun - the unknown is always most exciting.

[slorch]

I'm sure a few people in the woodlands would disagree

that wa a real close game last year, huh...

Woodlands better step up, or they will be embarassed again

[slorch]

Lufkin will probably have it's most explosive offensive unit ever next year. To think that Jeremy Claybon - as a complete unknown junior - eclipsed Reggie's single season passing TD mark is still hard to believe. Injuries can change that in a heartbeat - but the Pack will put points up in bunches.

The kicking game will be as good as anyone in Texas with Jaime Fernandez back one last year. The defense will have a good base, but, by no means loaded. No one really worries about D around here - but you're not going to see 3-4 all-staters on D like you may have seen in years past. Should be fun - the unknown is always most exciting.
i did notice some BIG young linemen( sophs) on the sideline for the playoffs last year. If they develop early, LP's Offense could be very deadly combining speed with those big ole boys come playoff time.
who will be the big leaders on the D, it seems like the heart of that defense graduated.

[a&mconsoltiger]

Lufkin will probably have it's most explosive offensive unit ever next year. To think that Jeremy Claybon - as a complete unknown junior - eclipsed Reggie's single season passing TD mark is still hard to believe. Injuries can change that in a heartbeat - but the Pack will put points up in bunches.

The kicking game will be as good as anyone in Texas with Jaime Fernandez back one last year. The defense will have a good base, but, by no means loaded. No one really worries about D around here - but you're not going to see 3-4 all-staters on D like you may have seen in years past. Should be fun - the unknown is always most exciting.

hm.......wouldnt say yalls kickin game is as good as anyone in texas, i think we have yall beat in that category

[slorch]

hm.......wouldnt say yalls kickin game is as good as anyone in texas, i think we have yall beat in that category

In a playoffs last year, i attended some LP games with a relative, of my wife , who lives in lufkin. I asked him during the game if any one had returned any kickoffs, and he said a few. I said, " That really surprises me with Lufkin's speed." He said, " oh you meant for a touchdown. I thought you just meant running it out of their own endzone..." It was very funny.

jaime has touchbacks even when he's kicking into the wind. I haven't seen AMC, so i cannot comment on their kicker, but the fernandez kid will have his pick of schools to kick for, come college time. very strong leg.

[dragonsdaddy]

In a playoffs last year, i attended some LP games with a relative, of my wife , who lives in lufkin. I asked him during the game if any one had returned any kickoffs, and he said a few. I said, " That really surprises me with Lufkin's speed." He said, " oh you meant for a touchdown. I thought you just meant running it out of their own endzone..." It was very funny.

jaime has touchbacks even when he's kicking into the wind. I haven't seen AMC, so i cannot comment on their kicker, but the fernandez kid will have his pick of schools to kick for, come college time. very strong leg.
he'll have a lot of schools from which to pick, but there would be a few where he won't get offered due to already having a good scholarship kicker on hand.

[a&mconsoltiger]

In a playoffs last year, i attended some LP games with a relative, of my wife , who lives in lufkin. I asked him during the game if any one had returned any kickoffs, and he said a few. I said, " That really surprises me with Lufkin's speed." He said, " oh you meant for a touchdown. I thought you just meant running it out of their own endzone..." It was very funny.

jaime has touchbacks even when he's kicking into the wind. I haven't seen AMC, so i cannot comment on their kicker, but the fernandez kid will have his pick of schools to kick for, come college time. very strong leg.

yea ours is committed to texas a&m, kicked a 61 yarder against euless trinity in the semi-final game last year

[slorch]

he'll have a lot of schools from which to pick, but there would be a few where he won't get offered due to already having a good scholarship kicker on hand.
that's a function of having 80 scholarships to offer, not of how good he is.
no program is going to load up on kickers.

[Favpack]

I didn't realize your AMC kicker was a junior - he is very good, as is Jaime. Both made all-state selections. Sure seems both would also have a bevy of schools to pick from.

[VB Pack Fan]

The "Pack" will be loaded next year on offense, but you can never tell the outcome. The season is long , and the Defense will have to prove itself as there will be some new faces. We always think we can contend for the title. We thought in 2003 that we would go back to back, but a up start new to 5a SLC :) knocked us out.............:eek:

[CCHS77]

The "Pack" will be loaded next year on offense, but you can never tell the outcome. The season is long , and the Defense will have to prove itself as there will be some new faces. We always think we can contend for the title. We thought in 2003 that we would go back to back, but a up start new to 5a SLC :) knocked us out.............:eek:



2002

[PackAttack2005]

Lufkin will be a very good team next year, but so will a dozen other teams in 5A. I don't like the word dominate when your 7 months away from playing your first game. Too many talented teams around in the State to talk about dominance.

We'll see, starting in September.

[supercentex]

Consol always produces some bad *** kickers............3 straight I believe get to go where they want.

I seen one that kicked a 47 and 51 yarder in the same game against Waco High. Myatt is his name......he went to La Tech but had a pick of where ever he wanted to go.

[VB Pack Fan]

2002
Yes that is what I was trying to type......2002;)

[pack4life]

To the original Question::: It is possible.. The talent this team has coming back in phenomenal.. there is definatly something special about this team.

[a&mconsoltiger]

Consol always produces some bad *** kickers............3 straight I believe get to go where they want.

I seen one that kicked a 47 and 51 yarder in the same game against Waco High. Myatt is his name......he went to La Tech but had a pick of where ever he wanted to go.

yea zach myatt

[bleedgreen]

we might as well go ahead and hand the trophy(or one of them) to Lufkin...kind of reminds me of a certain team who was being bragged on last year only to have their ***** sent home in the first round.............

[c-lisle]

what's new, of course Lufkin is going to be dominant.

[slorch]

we might as well go ahead and hand the trophy(or one of them) to Lufkin...kind of reminds me of a certain team who was being bragged on last year only to have their ***** sent home in the first round.............
I guess you're referring to the team LP OWNS...

I don't think anyone would concede anything to Lufkin, but they do have momentum, talent, and tradition of being there at the end. Who knows who will step in up this year? Look at what Cy Falls did this past year, S. Garland last year, you remember them right?
At least one west texas program is usually pretty stout, like Abilene, they just have to play SLC usually, so the rest of the state doesn't get to see them...
San Antonio, Austin, and Houston always have 1-2 teams that could win it all.
If my school is in the playoffs, I definately don't want to see a few names on my side of the bracket, and LP is definately one of them.

[PackAttack2005]

Comm'on a stupid Scout Teamer came on here to make that remark about Lufkin. None of the Lufkin regulars have said anything about dominate. You Longview boys always jump on a crumb and try to run with it.

For the life of me, I cannot see where anyone from Longview can or should make any negative remarks about Lufkin. You have proved nothing other than your teams have not produced with the talent you have had there.

Need I remind you, again, of Lufkin's 10 wins ina row over Longview, Lufkin to the State semi-finals 3 of the last 4 years, losing to the eventual State Champions Southlake in each case. Longview has thought for 2 years that they had Southlakes number, only they could never get there to find out.
No your always home complaining about getting beat in the playoffs either because your players were sick, had failing grades, bad coaching decisions, team was not ready to play or bad officiating, it is never because you were not the better team.

Lufkin will have a good team this year, but I am not going to let a scout teamer talk for me and the whole Lufkin area, Southlake is going to be dominate, just ask them.

[drgnbkr]

Comm'on a stupid Scout Teamer came on here to make that remark about Lufkin. None of the Lufkin regulars have said anything about dominate. You Longview boys always jump on a crumb and try to run with it.

For the life of me, I cannot see where anyone from Longview can or should make any negative remarks about Lufkin. You have proved nothing other than your teams have not produced with the talent you have had there.

Need I remind you, again, of Lufkin's 10 wins ina row over Longview, Lufkin to the State semi-finals 3 of the last 4 years, losing to the eventual State Champions Southlake in each case. Longview has thought for 2 years that they had Southlakes number, only they could never get there to find out.
No your always home complaining about getting beat in the playoffs either because your players were sick, had failing grades, bad coaching decisions, team was not ready to play or bad officiating, it is never because you were not the better team.

Lufkin will have a good team this year, but I am not going to let a scout teamer talk for me and the whole Lufkin area, Southlake is going to be dominate, just ask them.

Carroll has been dominant, the Dragons will be good, dominant? we hope so but we'll see....

[Favpack]

I think Bleed was being sarcastic -- or at least giving a friendly warning about ego. I'm positive you won't see a true Lufkin fan coming here talking domination. I said Longview was the team to beat in 2005, and they were up until about week 8 or so IMO.

[PackAttack2005]

I knew exactly what Bleed was saying. His words have alot of truth because that is what happen to the 2003 Panther and the 2005 Lobo teams.

[drgnbkr]

I think Bleed was being sarcastic -- or at least giving a friendly warning about ego. I'm positive you won't see a true Lufkin fan coming here talking domination. I said Longview was the team to beat in 2005, and they were up until about week 8 or so IMO.

Is that when Hewitt got hurt?

[PackAttack2005]

Hewitt tore his ACL in the 2004 playoffs against Pfluggerville, he was never the same player after that injury.

[drgnbkr]

Hewitt tore his ACL in the 2004 playoffs against Pfluggerville, he was never the same player after that injury.

I thought he pulled a groin or something this past season also...what did Howard Cossel say? "It's always the knee, always the knee" I don't think God made the human knee to play football..

[South Texas]

Lufkin has the athletes, compared them at larger schools. "The" woodlands, plano, etc... Look at their records.

[Favpack]

I thought he pulled a groin or something this past season also...what did Howard Cossel say? "It's always the knee, always the knee" I don't think God made the human knee to play football..

Drgnbkr - my comment was that the Lobos - Longview - was the dominant team in 2005 until about week 8 or so - then they just simply lost something and were booted out in Round 1. Leonard's groin injury (which I never heard confirmed) appears to have happened around Week 1 of the po's -- maybe the week or two before against The Woodz - who really knows. He was probably no more than 90% before that due to major knee surgery - and 70% after the injury -- still better than 90% of db's out there.

[drgnbkr]

Drgnbkr - my comment was that the Lobos - Longview - was the dominant team in 2005 until about week 8 or so - then they just simply lost something and were booted out in Round 1. Leonard's groin injury (which I never heard confirmed) appears to have happened around Week 1 of the po's -- maybe the week or two before against The Woodz - who really knows. He was probably no more than 90% before that due to major knee surgery - and 70% after the injury -- still better than 90% of db's out there.

Whoops..my bad...I'm sure it's frustrating for someone as gifted as Hewitt to only be able to do a percentage of what he is used to...

[c-lisle]

[QUOTE=PackAttack2005]

Need I remind you, again, of Lufkin's 10 wins ina row over Longview,QUOTE]


It's only 9, don't try and make it sound worse than it really is. LOL


It should be ten after this year though.

[Mean Green Machine]

The Pack and The Woodlands will power houses next year.

In this Texas playoff system you also need to have a couple of breaks go your way and be relatively health to win 6 games in the playoffs to be State Champs.

[slorch]

the end of the season ( around week 8) was also when Claybon really came into his own and became an asset at crunchtime.

He got better each time I saw Lufkin play. In the POs he was just as vital as anyone else when it came to making plays.

I hope he is able to recover from the surgeries he's had on his arm, and be able to play as confidently as he was at the time of injury. IMO, that is when I thought Lufkin had a chance against anybody last season when Jeremy came on so strong.

[bleedgreen]

I think Bleed was being sarcastic -- or at least giving a friendly warning about ego. I'm positive you won't see a true Lufkin fan coming here talking domination. I said Longview was the team to beat in 2005, and they were up until about week 8 or so IMO.
i was being truthful and sarcastic at the same time..........truthful---oh yea, you guys definitely have the talent returning, i don't see anyone stopping yall this time(except again, maybe Carroll if they reloaded pretty strong)......year in, year out, Lufkin will be there because of the talent and coaching in Lufkin..and yes, i was referring to the Lobos of last season, not referring to Lufkin's teams in anyway...we are proof positive of what alot of high rankings and chest beating will get you...........sarcastic---considering the source of the "chest beating" and bragging on several different threads, i guess i shouldn't have said anything...scout teamers like to come on here and brag about their teams--nothing unusual about that(we've had them too as you all know).........i'll pull for you guys, of course--unless it's against us.....i just hope that it doesn't get to lopsided in week two...we should keep it close............and to the posters who YET again had to bring the "streak" up and throw it in our faces, AGAIN, thanks----i had almost forgot until now......................

[slorch]

i was being truthful and sarcastic at the same time..........truthful---oh yea, you guys definitely have the talent returning, i don't see anyone stopping yall this time(except again, maybe Carroll if they reloaded pretty strong)......year in, year out, Lufkin will be there because of the talent and coaching in Lufkin..and yes, i was referring to the Lobos of last season, not referring to Lufkin's teams in anyway...we are proof positive of what alot of high rankings and chest beating will get you...........sarcastic---considering the source of the "chest beating" and bragging on several different threads, i guess i shouldn't have said anything...scout teamers like to come on here and brag about their teams--nothing unusual about that(we've had them too as you all know).........i'll pull for you guys, of course--unless it's against us.....i just hope that it doesn't get to lopsided in week two...we should keep it close............and to the posters who YET again had to bring the "streak" up and throw it in our faces, AGAIN, thanks----i had almost forgot until now......................
from the outside looking in, i don't think the streak means much EXCEPT for bragging rights. As with any great rivalry, either of these teams can win each time they play.
LP knows Longview is good enough to beat em, and vice/versa
you can count on a great game.

[bleedgreen]

I guess you're referring to the team LP OWNS...

I don't think anyone would concede anything to Lufkin, but they do have momentum, talent, and tradition of being there at the end. Who knows who will step in up this year? Look at what Cy Falls did this past year, S. Garland last year, you remember them right?
At least one west texas program is usually pretty stout, like Abilene, they just have to play SLC usually, so the rest of the state doesn't get to see them...
San Antonio, Austin, and Houston always have 1-2 teams that could win it all.
If my school is in the playoffs, I definately don't want to see a few names on my side of the bracket, and LP is definately one of them.
good post, slorch.......1st, "the team that LP OWNS", yes, that would be us...but guess what, they will own(and currently do) TW as well..as long as you guys are in the same district, you can bet on a district loss for your team each season.....if it was Longview in your district instead of Lufkin, guess what?? you would expect more of the same---a loss everytime........and yes, how could i forget SG!! 2 out of the last 3 years!! it's like being in the twilight zone or bizzaro world......as far as you not wanting to see Lufkin on your side of the bracket, i welcome the challenge to play Lufkin or anyone else for that matter...we're not afraid of playing any team--doesn't make a crap to us...............who the hell wants a cakewalk?? i'd rather earn my state title by beating some strong teams on the way.........

[bleedgreen]

i would be honored to play some teams like TW, Judson, NS--etc....it only makes you a stronger team.....ask your coach if he wouldn't mind 2 good butt kickings from East Texas schools each year...it will only make you better...................

[slorch]

i would be honored to play some teams like TW, Judson, NS--etc....it only makes you a stronger team.....ask your coach if he wouldn't mind 2 good butt kickings from East Texas schools each year...it will only make you better...................
you might want to read some of my other posts.

i have been to about 10 more Lufkin games than the Woodlands games in the past 3 years.
my wife has family in Lufkin. my kids are only in 6th and 1st grade so I would rather go to LP games.So we travel to watch some REAL football!

My first Lufkin game ever was at Abe against you guessed it, your Lobos in 2003.

I have alot of respect for east Texas football. i can see how you got the wrong impression, just look a little deeper next time.

[alnegle07]

i dnt know much about lufkin but one thing i do know is theyll have to go through allen to get to state and allen is returning the most players since who knows when and all of them are very talented, mainly QB nathan Dick and Rbs charles O and Matt Morrison, not to mention the defense.

:cool:

[drgnbkr]

i dnt know much about lufkin but one thing i do know is theyll have to go through allen to get to state and allen is returning the most players since who knows when and all of them are very talented, mainly QB nathan Dick and Rbs charles O and Matt Morrison, not to mention the defense.

:cool:

Lufkin will have to go through Allen? :D Has Allen finally figured out a way to beat Carroll?

[slorch]

it would be interesting to play someone new from the metroplex. Have Allen and LP played before?

what is Allen's best run into the playoffs?

[drgnbkr]

it would be interesting to play someone new from the metroplex. Have Allen and LP played before?

what is Allen's best run into the playoffs?

03 ....I believe Carroll thumped them in the quarterfinals..that was Allens best team to date

[slorch]

Lufkin will have to go through Allen? :D Has Allen finally figured out a way to beat Carroll?
actually that Plano district is in region II next year, so don't get upset, you CAN have both games:)
(I have the realignment saved and had to go back and look myself)

[alnegle07]

yah lufkin and allen used to be the allen and southlake of today they always beat us in the playoffs, but this year is saposed tobe the best team in allen for a long time even better then 03

[alnegle07]

03 ....I believe Carroll thumped them in the quarterfinals..that was Allens best team to date

oh and it was like a 14pt win not exactly a thump and it was within 7 most of the game

[slorch]

yah lufkin and allen used to be the allen and southlake of today they always beat us in the playoffs, but this year is saposed tobe the best team in allen for a long time even better then 03
what????

[LPanther]

Wouldn't say Lufkin and Allen were the SLC/LP of today. Lufkin thumped Allen in the playoffs 43-16 in 2000 and 28-6 in 2002. The SLC/LP games have generally been much closer. Lufkin has 9 of 11 returnees on offense and 5 of 11 returning on defense with a stellar soph. class coming up. This team may be the best since the McNeal led state champs. Until Allen beats SLC I wouldn't worry about the Panthers.

[drgnbkr]

oh and it was like a 14pt win not exactly a thump and it was within 7 most of the game

If you were there, it was a thumpin..34 to 20 I believe..Demyron Martin (RB) quit in the second half..just jogged through the rest of the game..

[dragonsdaddy]

03 ....I believe Carroll thumped them in the quarterfinals..that was Allens best team to date
it was actually a semifinal game at ts. allen held up pretty well until getting worn down in the second half. martin was one of the best rbs we saw that year.

[drgnbkr]

it was actually a semifinal game at ts. allen held up pretty well until getting worn down in the second half. martin was one of the best rbs we saw that year.

Martin wore down for sure..it looked to me that he just ran out of gas and went through the motions in the 2nd..Their D also had trouble finding the oxygen..

[Ladypack34]

Everyone here is REALLY excited about next season....Offense will be amazing..I look for Jeremy, Dez, Corey,and Ralph to put on a show for us...the O-Line will be one of the best Lufkin has ever seen (all of them returning 2 of them first team all district Matt Adams and Max Taylor) and there a some soph (well jr. next year) that are really good and really big...Defense will be better than most think..AJ is a monster...Cam Davis will also suprise everyone..Joe will be good...Randall murphy is a beast it takes a great o-line to hold him...DanQuon Laudry will be much better next year..and there a few soph.(jr. next year) coming up on defense as well and a couple that were frehmen this year (JaMarcus Macfarland & i forgot the other ones)

All i know is..I'm ready for next season

[bleedgreen]

you might want to read some of my other posts.

i have been to about 10 more Lufkin games than the Woodlands games in the past 3 years.
my wife has family in Lufkin. my kids are only in 6th and 1st grade so I would rather go to LP games.So we travel to watch some REAL football!

My first Lufkin game ever was at Abe against you guessed it, your Lobos in 2003.

I have alot of respect for east Texas football. i can see how you got the wrong impression, just look a little deeper next time.
i didn't get the wrong impression, brother....good luck to you guys this season....

[bleedgreen]

Lufkin will have to go through Allen? :D Has Allen finally figured out a way to beat Carroll?
ouch!