Riot at Spring Westfield

[KatyTigerDad0407]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11366502/

[dragons08]

this is some sad stuff..

i hear about how other schools dismiss by floors, have metal detectors..

SLC doesnt have any of that, we have cameras and a police officer, thats about it

[KatyTigerDad0407]

Look at the bottom of the page. Humble 8th-Grader Charged With Sex Assault Of Classmate (http://www.click2houston.com/news/7079207/detail.html?subid=10100242)

[Mad Hatter]

Truly is a sad world we live in :(

[dragons08]

Look at the bottom of the page. Humble 8th-Grader Charged With Sex Assault Of Classmate (http://www.click2houston.com/news/7079207/detail.html?subid=10100242)
thats werid..they say their classmates..it says hes 15 and shes 11, then says shes 12..

[thebiggestfan]

Same exact situation happend at conroe high school

[Mad Hatter]

and Tajeda middle school a couple years back near regean Highcschool.

[Favpack]

Yep - just as I suspected -- had nothing to do with Spring ISD - a fine district - was started by the evacuee gangs - I guarantee it. Mayor White in Houston is just pi___d off by this Hurricane evacuee nonsense. These small number of rotten apple LA folks (obviously not all) have just been hell on Mayor White and all of Houston - particularly the larger schools and larger apt. complexes.

To those law-abiding LA citizens that live in Houston - welcome. To the scummy, government-living LA low-lifes -- keep moving south - you'll do fine in Mexico.

[drgnbkr]

Yep - just as I suspected -- had nothing to do with Spring ISD - a fine district - was started by the evacuee gangs - I guarantee it. Mayor White in Houston is just pi___d off by this Hurricane evacuee nonsense. These small number of rotten apple LA folks (obviously not all) have just been hell on Mayor White and all of Houston - particularly the larger schools and larger apt. complexes.

To those law-abiding LA citizens that live in Houston - welcome. To the scummy, government-living LA low-lifes -- keep moving south - you'll do fine in Mexico.

They are rousting them out of the hotels finally..I saw some footage of the wreckage of the rooms left behind by some of these "grateful" citizens..it is disgusting...I have contributed to the relief efforts, but when is enough, enough?

[Drake]

this is some sad stuff..

i hear about how other schools dismiss by floors, have metal detectors..

SLC doesnt have any of that, we have cameras and a police officer, thats about itHow many Katrina evacuees did SLC take in?

[AHS Mustangs]

Yep - just as I suspected -- had nothing to do with Spring ISD - a fine district - was started by the evacuee gangs - I guarantee it. Mayor White in Houston is just pi___d off by this Hurricane evacuee nonsense. These small number of rotten apple LA folks (obviously not all) have just been hell on Mayor White and all of Houston - particularly the larger schools and larger apt. complexes.

To those law-abiding LA citizens that live in Houston - welcome. To the scummy, government-living LA low-lifes -- keep moving south - you'll do fine in Mexico.

The same thing happened a couple of weeks ago as Westbury High School in Houston ISD. Same thing, the crazy LA kids started it. I admit they are not all bad, but look at how they acted in the Superdome. Did we expect any different when they were set free to roam around Houston, free of charge? I think the best thing to happen to Houston since Katrina was Rita, because they moved a bunch of those people up to Arkansas because they thought we were going to get a direct hit. God works in misterious ways. :cool:

[rwilleby]

How many Katrina evacuees did SLC take in?
:(

[SVite]

They are rousting them out of the hotels finally..I saw some footage of the wreckage of the rooms left behind by some of these "grateful" citizens..it is disgusting...I have contributed to the relief efforts, but when is enough, enough?

Just blame the hurricane on Bush,he prayed for it!:rolleyes: I better watch out the demos might run this story,and maybe make a cartoon,then there will be riots all over H-town!Then it`ll be a chain reaction,and every one around the world can blame the Bush administration for every natural dissaster that has happened during his reign.:rolleyes:

And the greedy media would`nt have any thing to do with it!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

[Drake]

The same thing happened a couple of weeks ago as Westbury High School in Houston ISD. Same thing, the crazy LA kids started it. I admit they are not all bad, but look at how they acted in the Superdome. Did we expect any different when they were set free to roam around Houston, free of charge? I think the best thing to happen to Houston since Katrina was Rita, because they moved a bunch of those people up to Arkansas because they thought we were going to get a direct hit. God works in misterious ways. :cool:It's easy to stereotype and assume it's the fault of the NOLA kids... Many NOLA adult evacuees have come to this area and been their own worse enemies as far as public opinion is concerned... BUT... I'm sure that public resentment based on what we read and hear about the NOLA evacuees has created some, maybe much, unjust negativity towards the kids from New Orleans attending our schools... It's not easy for those kids, especially if they're made to feel unwelcome at school... Outside factors have led to animosity among the local and NOLA kids and that was unavoidable... But, dealing with it and not letting it evolve into violence is just as much the responsibility of the local students as it is the NOLA students.

Therefore, I'm not yet ready to join those, who without anything more than hearsay and innuendo, place all the blame for these incidents on the NOLA students...

[gburgtiger]

Yep - just as I suspected -- had nothing to do with Spring ISD - a fine district - was started by the evacuee gangs - I guarantee it. Mayor White in Houston is just pi___d off by this Hurricane evacuee nonsense. These small number of rotten apple LA folks (obviously not all) have just been hell on Mayor White and all of Houston - particularly the larger schools and larger apt. complexes.

To those law-abiding LA citizens that live in Houston - welcome. To the scummy, government-living LA low-lifes -- keep moving south - you'll do fine in Mexico.


I like Mayor White a lot...I think he is wonderful for the city of Houston...that being said, he's getting the raw end of the deal.

Durring his stay as Mayor of Houston crime has risen 20%, Violent crime has risen almost 50% and my taxes are about to go up to pay for 1200 extra police officers. All of this has happened since katrina and the 20% crime increase can be directly linked to the influx of LA folks.

I will not vote for Mayor White unless he starts actively trying to return this city to its pre-katrina state. I know he has to be P.C. and pretend like he cares for all of the LA people, but enough is enough. It's starting to affect the normal decent hard working HOUSTONIANS.

I think a good solution would be to pay those people to, instead of sit around houston and commit crimes, rebuild thier own city. That would leviate some of the cost of rebuilding by "killing 2 birds with one stone" paying out vouchers and getting the city rebuilt. Plus, it would give those people something to be proud of, and maybe they won't destroy it and run it into the ground like they did with the previous N.O.

Mississippi and Alabama were distroyed by katrina and I haven't heard anything from them about not getting fair treatment and fema screw-ups. They are quitely rebuilding without the thinking that everyone owes them something. I wish N.O. would follow their example.

[drgnbkr]

How many Katrina evacuees did SLC take in?

I know of several families who housed friends and relatives..we don't have a single hotel in our fair burg...are you still flooded with them in your home? Is Southlake somehow deficient in your estimation? Get real strakedrake....

[AHS Mustangs]

It's easy to stereotype and assume it's the fault of the NOLA kids... Many NOLA adult evacuees have come to this area and been their own worse enemies as far as public opinion is concerned... BUT... I'm sure that public resentment based on what we read and hear about the NOLA evacuees has created some, maybe much, unjust negativity towards the kids from New Orleans attending our schools... It's not easy for those kids, especially if they're made to feel unwelcome at school... Outside factors have led to animosity among the local and NOLA kids and that was unavoidable... But, dealing with it and not letting it evolve into violence is just as much the responsibility of the local students as it is the NOLA students.

Therefore, I'm not yet ready to join those, who without anything more than hearsay and innuendo, place all the blame for these incidents on the NOLA students...

I am not saying they are all bad. If they were then we would hear about problems at all schools, because they were moved all around the city and state. I agree that both local and LA kids must take responsibility for their actions and violence is NEVER the answer. According to an article I read on News2Houston.com, they said that the NOLA kids arrived at Westfield and were jumped as they entered the school by the local Westfield students. Westfield is not the best of schools, as their are a lot of Apartments located around them that have lower and lower middle class families that live in them. I use to live over there, and a couple of years ago it got bad because of TS Allison and the flooding in Greespoint, made those people (not the best in the world) move to other apartments that were not effected by the storm. Just so happens that along Ella Blvd, there is nothing but apartments. At least 20 complexes if not more. All of those feed into Westfield. Spring ISD is not all upper middle class people, maybe at Spring HS, but not Westfield and its surroundings. So, to make a long story short, both the hoodlems from NOLA and the normal ones from Westfield are to blame.

[Slim-Rob]

Not trying to be mean, but why the heck is this in the news. This is every day at Judson, but its normally Mexicans vs African Americans. 12 people fight, and NO INJURIES reported, this is not news. This is not a riot.

[Drake]

I know of several families who housed friends and relatives..we don't have a single hotel in our fair burg...are you still flooded with them in your home? Is Southlake somehow deficient in your estimation? Get real strakedrake....The post I responded to (innocuously) was a post by Dragon08 that pointed out how bad the security is in other schools compared to SLC. Since his post was in response to posts about the problem the NOLA students have created, I ASSUMED SLC had taken in a fair amount of NOLA evacuees and, like everything else, figured out a better way to deal with the situation...

Why did you reply to such a vanilla harmless question so defensively? If SLC didn't make any overtures to help the students from NOLA that's their prerogative... No?

[drgnbkr]

The post I responded to (innocuously) was a post by Dragon08 that pointed out how bad the security is in other schools compared to SLC. Since his post was in response to posts about the problem the NOLA students have created, I ASSUMED SLC had taken in a fair amount of NOLA evacuees and, like everything else, figured out a better way to deal with the situation...

Why did you reply to such a vanilla harmless question so defensively? If SLC didn't make any overtures to help the students from NOLA that's their prerogative... No?

Typical strakedrake stuff..you flame & throw your palms up with a look of "who me?" Katrina was a disaster...some, not all, are perpetuating the disaster...

[Drake]

Typical strakedrake stuff..you flame & throw your palms up with a look of "who me?" Katrina was a disaster...some, not all, are perpetuating the disaster...Who? Me? :D

[LoneRocket]

I like Mayor White a lot...I think he is wonderful for the city of Houston...that being said, he's getting the raw end of the deal.

Durring his stay as Mayor of Houston crime has risen 20%, Violent crime has risen almost 50% and my taxes are about to go up to pay for 1200 extra police officers. All of this has happened since katrina and the 20% crime increase can be directly linked to the influx of LA folks.

I will not vote for Mayor White unless he starts actively trying to return this city to its pre-katrina state. I know he has to be P.C. and pretend like he cares for all of the LA people, but enough is enough. It's starting to affect the normal decent hard working HOUSTONIANS.

I think a good solution would be to pay those people to, instead of sit around houston and commit crimes, rebuild thier own city. That would leviate some of the cost of rebuilding by "killing 2 birds with one stone" paying out vouchers and getting the city rebuilt. Plus, it would give those people something to be proud of, and maybe they won't destroy it and run it into the ground like they did with the previous N.O.

Mississippi and Alabama were distroyed by katrina and I haven't heard anything from them about not getting fair treatment and fema screw-ups. They are quitely rebuilding without the thinking that everyone owes them something. I wish N.O. would follow their example.
Actually there are problems in Mississippi and Alabama and East Texas with FEMA screw ups.

[LoneRocket]

Just blame the hurricane on Bush,he prayed for it!:rolleyes: I better watch out the demos might run this story,and maybe make a cartoon,then there will be riots all over H-town!Then it`ll be a chain reaction,and every one around the world can blame the Bush administration for every natural dissaster that has happened during his reign.:rolleyes:

And the greedy media would`nt have any thing to do with it!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:
If the 2010 census happend today Texas might pick up three extra congressional districts because of the high number of Evacs.

[LoneRocket]

They are rousting them out of the hotels finally..I saw some footage of the wreckage of the rooms left behind by some of these "grateful" citizens..it is disgusting...I have contributed to the relief efforts, but when is enough, enough?
Were they/FEMA trying to find temporary housing or were they just hanging out?

[Drake]

Then it`ll be a chain reaction,and every one around the world can blame the Bush administration for every natural dissaster that has happened during his reign.:rolleyes:If you are truly a Bush supporter you may want to use presidency or term instead of reign. ;)

[LoneRocket]

It's easy to stereotype and assume it's the fault of the NOLA kids... Many NOLA adult evacuees have come to this area and been their own worse enemies as far as public opinion is concerned... BUT... I'm sure that public resentment based on what we read and hear about the NOLA evacuees has created some, maybe much, unjust negativity towards the kids from New Orleans attending our schools... It's not easy for those kids, especially if they're made to feel unwelcome at school... Outside factors have led to animosity among the local and NOLA kids and that was unavoidable... But, dealing with it and not letting it evolve into violence is just as much the responsibility of the local students as it is the NOLA students.

Therefore, I'm not yet ready to join those, who without anything more than hearsay and innuendo, place all the blame for these incidents on the NOLA students...
The actions of a few make it worse for the rest, when people started coming to Texas I told some of my friends, there are going to be some misunderstandings about cultural differences between Texas and LA. They thought I was crazy, now they understand what I was talking about.

[gburgtiger]

Actually there are problems in Mississippi and Alabama and East Texas with FEMA screw ups.

Yes...that was my point...I have not heard a peep out of those people (Mississippi and Alabama) in reaction to the FEMA screw ups. they are just happy to be getting any help, and if they were getting no help at all I think they would still be quitely rebuilding. In contrast it seems that the city of New Orleans feels that everyone owes them something and when someone gives them something they are ungreatful and demand more.

[drgnbkr]

Were they/FEMA trying to find temporary housing or were they just hanging out?

As I understand it they are just hanging out...there are acres of temporary trailers in Louisiana sitting unused...I know here in Dallas, they have been evicting them for a while....

[Drake]

The actions of a few make it worse for the rest, when people started coming to Texas I told some of my friends, there are going to be some misunderstandings about cultural differences between Texas and LA. They thought I was crazy, now they understand what I was talking about.I realize that, and certain factions do their best to make the other side look worse... Its like the hotel room thing... I'm fairly responsible and my kids are decent kids, but put us into a hotel room for 5 months and we'll do some damage too... Now the media probably found the worst 5 rooms out of thousands and now a majority of taxpayers view ALL these people as ingrates... I'm not saying they are or they aren't, I'm just surprised at how easy people are manipulated into thinking like someone else wants them to think, especially those with agendas... Ever consider that these hotels will now be asking FEMA for re-imbursement for damages and since FEMA can't or won't do the homework, you and I will be paying MORE than we should (through taxes) to hotels that price-gouged to begin with and are now convincing people THEY are the victims... So sure they want the news media to come take a look at the worst rooms... (I'll post what this has to do with 5A football has soon as I think of it...)

[forest99]

Same exact situation happend at conroe high school
NO NO NO NO NO, THE SAME THING DID NOT JUST HAPPEN AT CONROE HIGH SCHOOL....

[LoneRocket]

Yes...that was my point...I have not heard a peep out of those people (Mississippi and Alabama) in reaction to the FEMA screw ups. they are just happy to be getting any help, and if they were getting no help at all I think they would still be quitely rebuilding. In contrast it seems that the city of New Orleans feels that everyone owes them something and when someone gives them something they are ungreatful and demand more.
There are many officials in Mississippi and Alabama who are making noise about their screw ups, Trent Lott filed a law suit against an insurance company. I seen other stories about people from that area who were complaining, New O. is just more of a "sexy" story for the media.

[gburgtiger]

The actions of a few make it worse for the rest, when people started coming to Texas I told some of my friends, there are going to be some misunderstandings about cultural differences between Texas and LA. They thought I was crazy, now they understand what I was talking about.

If it's their culture to shoot, mug, stab, carjack, and rob the very people that are helping them out, all the while living off of the tax payer's dime, then yes I don't understand.

it isn't a cultural difference when a city's, like Houston, crime rate raises 20%. Houston's crime rate is already high...like every big city...and to raise an already high number by 20% is incredible.

Houston did not gain 20 percent in population. it gained 2 percent in population and over the same time period the crime rate rose 20%...something doesn't add up.

[LoneRocket]

(I'll post what this has to do with 5A football has soon as I think of it...)
My first thought is instead of fighting each other they should be working together to make their school great.

[LoneRocket]

If it's their culture to shoot, mug, stab, carjack, and rob the very people that are helping them out, all the while living off of the tax payer's dime, then yes I don't understand.

it isn't a cultural difference when a city's, like Houston, crime rate raises 20%. Houston's crime rate is already high...like every big city...and to raise an already high number by 20% is incredible.

Houston did not gain 20 percent in population. it gained 2 percent in population and over the same time period the crime rate rose 20%...something doesn't add up.
If you are talking about gang members that is their way of life, but I was talking about language, food, music, education and perceptions.

[gburgtiger]

There are many officials in Mississippi and Alabama who are making noise about their screw ups, Trent Loft filed a law suit against an insurance company. I seen other stories about people from that area who were complaining, New O. is just more of a "sexy" story for the media.


To get an insurance company to pay up on a policy that large, you are going to have to file suit, it's that way for everything...when you have a car wreck one insurance company sues the other to get paid...happens all the time. and the only reason it's a "sexy" story is because of all the complaining and the attitude that NOLA thinks everyone owes them something. If no one was *****ing and causing a fuss, then it wouldn't be very glamorous of a news story. If the NOLA folks were just rebuilding and working legal means to get the insurance money, then we would not be hearing on a daily bases about N.O.

[gburgtiger]

If you are talking about gang members that is their way of life, but I was talking about language, food, music, education and perceptions.

how much of the crime increase is related to language, food, music, education, and perceptions?

[LoneRocket]

how much of the crime increase is related to language, food, music, education, and perceptions?
I was not talking about the crime (turf battles between gangsters). I was talking about some LA's not understanding the TX culture.

[LoneRocket]

To get an insurance company to pay up on a policy that large, you are going to have to file suit, it's that way for everything...when you have a car wreck one insurance company sues the other to get paid...happens all the time. and the only reason it's a "sexy" story is because of all the complaining and the attitude that NOLA thinks everyone owes them something. If no one was *****ing and causing a fuss, then it wouldn't be very glamorous of a news story. If the NOLA folks were just rebuilding and working legal means to get the insurance money, then we would not be hearing on a daily bases about N.O.
How long do you think it will take them to collect their insurance money so they can rebuild?

[gburgtiger]

How long do you think it will take them to collect their insurance money so they can rebuild?

Don't know...it may be a long time. Or maybe there is enough sympathy in the courts to expedite the process? who knows?

Maybe AZTiger could help answer that? I think he is in some kind of insurance?

[Favpack]

I don't live in Houston -- but I like Mayor White from what I know of him - he did as well as could be expected in Rita I think. Certainly not his fault that he gets to deal with a few/many LA low-life gang-type folks that are just pillaging Houston right now. From what I read it is beyond bad.

Taking this back to the issue at hand - this fight was not a reflection of Spring ISD - it's a reflection of a few bad apples that aren't Texans prompting a fight among folks that should have acted better but didn't.

And, it only involved 12 kids - I don't call that a riot.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

you and I will be paying MORE than we should (through taxes) to hotels that price-gouged to begin with I know who won't be paying for it. The illegal aliens who get paid in cash and the business owners who hire them. and are now convincing people THEY are the victims...same old system of entitlement that the welfare state allows to florish by rewarding those that stick their hand out and expect the government to stick something in it.

[Willieg]

I just graduated from westfield last year and im sure that the fight was broken up just as soon as it started because the Spring ISD Police dont play that and Westfield is full of gangs and cliques but for the most part everyone gets along pretty well

[Miss Kitty]

Were they/FEMA trying to find temporary housing or were they just hanging out?

I personally had evacuees living in my home. What was supposed to be a couple of weeks turned into 4 months. They did not work, blew their FEMA money and did not give me a penny, and was not in any hurry until I finally said enough. I thought I could help someone who was having hard times because I could move things around and give up a little space. In the process I got the bad end of the deal. To the tune of thousands. My fault I know, because I kept believing that they would perk up and want to thrive. Instead I was used for an all expense paid vacation for 4 months. Now I am struggling to dig my way back up and keep my kid in college while theirs goes to school for free. So from first hand experience, I think allot of the other evacuees are doing the same. NOTHING to help themselves at all.

[pack0808]

I break up riots between my 4 boys ( ages 6,3, 3, 1) almost every day at my house. Pepper spray usually does the trick. ;)

[lonny23]

I break up riots between my 4 boys ( ages 6,3, 3, 1) almost every day at my house. Pepper spray usually does the trick. ;)
So does a belt.:D

Congrats on the 3K.

[pack0808]

So does a belt.:D

Congrats on the 3K.


Did not even realize it? It took me a while to figure out what you were talking about.

[LoneRocket]

I personally had evacuees living in my home. What was supposed to be a couple of weeks turned into 4 months. They did not work, blew their FEMA money and did not give me a penny, and was not in any hurry until I finally said enough. I thought I could help someone who was having hard times because I could move things around and give up a little space. In the process I got the bad end of the deal. To the tune of thousands. My fault I know, because I kept believing that they would perk up and want to thrive. Instead I was used for an all expense paid vacation for 4 months. Now I am struggling to dig my way back up and keep my kid in college while theirs goes to school for free. So from first hand experience, I think allot of the other evacuees are doing the same. NOTHING to help themselves at all.
I was assigned to an Evac center and I noticed that the people who were "really trying" left in just days after medical tests. I learned that some of the people in the center were also Lawyers, Engineers, Professionals, there was the “somebody owes” me type folks and possible gangsters as well as “ordinary folks”. Fighting to survive makes strange bed fellows, a relative of mine was going to move somebody in and I told her if you do not know a person you will not invite them to live with you. A friend of mind drove some Evacs around town she finally had to put her foot down with some of them because they thought she was a free taxi service, (gas cost money) I am glad your experience was not worse/dangerous. My dad says if you are going to let somebody stay in your home you have to set ground rules and follow them.

[lonny23]

I was assigned to an Evac center and I noticed that the people who were "really trying" left in just days after medical tests. I learned that some of the people in the center were also Lawyers, Engineers, Professionals, there was the “somebody owes” me type folks and possible gangsters as well as “ordinary folks”. Fighting to survive makes strange bed fellows, a relative of mine was going to move somebody in and I told her if you do not know a person you will not invite them to live with you. A friend of mind drove some Evacs around town she finally had to put her foot down with some of them because they thought she was a free taxi service, (gas cost money) I am glad your experience was not worse/dangerous. My dad says if you are going to let somebody stay in your home you have to set ground rules and follow them.
The dude ran up major phone bills and ate her out of house and home.

I lived in New Orleans and ran across many that just wanted a handout.

[drgnbkr]

Houston, according to Newsweek is suffering from "Compassion Fatigue"...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11677333/site/newsweek/from/ET/

[dada]

Houston, according to Newsweek is suffering from "Compassion Fatigue"...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11677333/site/newsweek/from/ET/
I didnt read the article, but city officials are afraid of calling a spade a spade in fear of "Pointing out a specific group of people" Since katrina, Crime is up..ESPECIALLY in SW Houston...riots are at schools...but yet...they find all kinds of reasons to say..."It's not due to the evacuees"...not saying all of them are bad...but....I call it like I see it. I Know people who have been affected. I drive with a pistol under my seat for protection and I grew up in the hood. Some people have nothing to loose so I have to protect myself.

[hoo2ers]

So from first hand experience, I think allot of the other evacuees are doing the same. NOTHING to help themselves at all.

Ditto Miss Kitty. We took in 2 families who came from NO that were friends of my wife's.The first couple were without kids and lasted in my home only 2 days till I booted them out. With 5 kids of my own I set the rules in my house-- period!! When the first couple thought it ok to lounge by the pool drunk as a skunk, they were shown the door. The second couple did make a little effort and WE were able to find them an apartment and get their daughter enrolled in school. Now as of this day niether couple has yet to get a job and is relying completely on assistance from the government. Houston is a very large city and these 4 grown adults have yet to make an attempt to find work. You will have to excuse me if I have lost a little sympathy for some of those folks who were displaced. There is surely a difference between giving someone a "helping hand", and giving someone a "handout".

[stevefoxsc]

So does a belt.:D

Congrats on the 3K.


LONNY DONT USE THE BELT ITS PAIN ON A YOUNGIN BUNS! i still member those days trying to run:( but personally the LA Evacs we've had around are area of Central texas have been pretty cool no riots or anything, i guess houston larger population has bad apples that aggro them like some of the bad apple Evac do the same but oh well.

[slorch]

Houston, according to Newsweek is suffering from "Compassion Fatigue"...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11677333/site/newsweek/from/ET/
compassion fatigue= getting screwed by ne'er do wells