Realignment Discussion

[KT2000]

http://www.5atexasfootball.com/ssp/news?news_id=194

http://www.utexas.edu/uil/alignments/2010/FB-BB-5A-2010.pdf

[F18mustang]

Article about the situation in 2-5A:

http://www.lonestarvarsity.com/2010/01/30/a-look-ahead-at-2010-uil-realignment/

[covedawgfan]

I read an article in today's Killeen Daily Herald that predicts that District 12 5A remains the same. I really though Copperas Cove would drop down to 4A. We will see the outcome in the morning. I am hoping 12 5A drops Bryan and AMC and picks up two teams closer, like Georgetown and Leander.

[CyFallsMom]

It looks like Cy Fair is going to be a 10 school district with one preseason game - that's going to be tough. The only question, it seems, is whether we remain in Region II or go back to III. The rest of the sports teams in the district will be broken down into two divisions. Football will be the only one in the 10 team scenario.

[CincoDad]

One key to look for tomorrow is where the extra 5A district is coming from.

The Houston are districts have dropped to 5 teams and there is really no way to add teams to them to make them all continue onward. Look for the current 18-5A to pretty much go away.

The question is which districts get reconfigured to add the district back?

Will the current 2-5A get split in 2 with the Abilene schools added in to make two 6 team districts?

Will they play around and find a way to add another DFW area district?

Will the additional district come in the San Antonio/ Hill country area?

Also a lot will hinge on which (and how many opt up requests) are granted.

[BandidoNB]

My last minute prediction for New Braunfels:

25-5A

Austin Akins
Austin Bowie
Austin Del Valle
Austin SFA
Austin Westlake
New Braunfels
San Marcos
Seguin

[BDB]

have they figured out the CC/loredo/SA Southwest predicament yet?

[has09]

I dont think its live, I believe it was recorded Friday night

[bowiedawgs01]

My last minute prediction for New Braunfels:

25-5A

Austin Akins
Austin Bowie
Austin Del Valle
Austin SFA
Austin Westlake
New Braunfels
San Marcos
Seguin

That's my guess as well. I don't think Anderson would be granted their opt up with as many AISD 4A teams as we have. If this is how it comes out, 25-5A will be pretty stout.

[Former Stallion]

Local news says Lufkin might be part of a eight teams district, and speculated that the Nacogdoches game might be put on hold to play the Longview/Tyler teams.

[uhsfilmcrew]

have they figured out the CC/loredo/SA Southwest predicament yet?

Laredo sports writers say it will be the Ol Laredo District, but 10 team with Del Rio being a part of the Eagle Pass Laredo route.

[uhsfilmcrew]

Del Rio may still be beast if all goes according to plan:eek:

[dada]

I think the Cy-Fair schools willl be back in Region 3 and there is a rumor that a Houston area district could be moved to Region 4.

[bowiedawgs01]

Katy vs. Bowie 1st Round? :D

[The Wet Mustard]

I think the Cy-Fair schools willl be back in Region 3 and there is a rumor that a Houston area district could be moved to Region 4.

if so that would mean Katy isd most likely

[StangBacker78]

I read an article in today's Killeen Daily Herald that predicts that District 12 5A remains the same. I really though Copperas Cove would drop down to 4A. We will see the outcome in the morning. I am hoping 12 5A drops Bryan and AMC and picks up two teams closer, like Georgetown and Leander.

The only way that would happen is if Bryan and Consolidated were lumped in with Conroe ISD. They're limited on the 290 corridor because they're blocked by Cy-Fair having 10 schools next year (so no room to take anyone else in).

[StangBacker78]

I think the Cy-Fair schools willl be back in Region 3 and there is a rumor that a Houston area district could be moved to Region 4.

I would really bet against Katy or Ft. Bend being sent to Region IV. That wouldn't make sense to have schools 20 minutes away (Spring vs. Katy) in three regions.

[BandidoNB]

I think the Cy-Fair schools willl be back in Region 3 and there is a rumor that a Houston area district could be moved to Region 4.

I dont think that's possible... too many 5A schools in Region 4.

[Warbird_Dad]

The anticipation is killing me...!!

[JagFan]

The anticipation is killing me...!!

Me too!!

[bowiedawgs01]

2,065 and up

[Favpack]

I don't see it anywhere on foxsportssouthwest.com ??

[jc84chill]

HERE YOU GO!!!

http://www.utexas.edu/uil/alignments/2010/FB-BB-5A-2010.pdf

[SLC]

Carroll's district...


District 7

Coppell

Denton Guyer

Keller

Keller Central

Keller Fossil Ridge

Northwest

Saginaw

Southlake Carroll

[JagFan]

District 8


District 8

Allen

Lewisville

Lewisville Flower Mound

Lewisville Hebron

Lewisville Marcus

Plano

Plano East

Plano West

Can you say gas milage?

[CCCSportsFan]

WOW!!!! Some serious realignment! Lewisville schools over with Plano and Allen!!!

SLC goes with Keller, Coppell, Saginaw, Denton Guyer and Justin northwest

[JagFan]

WOW!!!! Some serious realignment! Lewisville schools over with Plano and Allen!!!

SLC goes with Keller, Coppell, Saginaw, Denton Guyer and Justin northwest

I am going to my Carroll buddies:) But Cody and Hal go way back so I bet there will be either a predistrict or scrimmage.

[bowiedawgs01]

Holy Crap!!!

15-5A
Bowie
Westlake
Austin
Akins
Anderson
Del Valle

[JagsMom08-12]

District 8

District 8
Allen
Lewisville
Lewisville Flower Mound
Lewisville Hebron
Lewisville Marcus
Plano
Plano East
Plano West
Can you say gas milage?

8 teams in the district - that's crazy, I thought the playoff elimination was bad with 6. I can't imagine how many good teams won't make the playoffs with 8 teams playing for 4 spots. Wow!

[SLC]

Holy Crap!!!

15-5A
Bowie
Westlake
Austin
Akins
Anderson
Del Valle


R/2...Ouch!

[twcpfan1]

14-5a

Conroe
Oak Ridge
TWHS
TWCP
Humble
Atascosita
Lufkin


Did they forget about Kingwood? They must have.

Cy schools back in R3

Based on last year's form, we are the new 'New Caney/Magnolia'

[dada]

Atascocita to Region 2

[bigdaddydog]

District 8


District 8

Allen

Lewisville

Lewisville Flower Mound

Lewisville Hebron

Lewisville Marcus

Plano

Plano East

Plano West

Can you say gas milage?


I'm gonna have to show me some FARMER LOVE!!!

ooooh weee you shore do have pertty eyes! :D


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[JagFan]

8 teams in the district - that's crazy, I thought the playoff elimination was bad with 6. I can't imagine how many good teams won't make the playoffs with 8 teams playing for 4 spots. Wow!

It will be a tough district again. I will have a freshman next year and they play the same home/away schedule as the varsity so on nights we play over there I get to make that trip on Thursday and then on Friday.

[Favpack]

14-5a

Conroe
Oak Ridge
TWHS
TWCP
Humble
Atascosita
Lufkin


Did they forget about Kingwood? They must have.

Cy schools back in R3

Based on last year's form, we are the new 'New Caney/Magnolia'

Humble Kingwood, Humble drops to 4A I believe - double-check it.

[bowiedawgs01]

McKinney Boyd joins Garland ISD.

[RedRage00]

Goodbye 5A, Hello 4A :ninja:

District 30-4A
Beeville
Floresville
Gregory-Portland
PL Calhoun
Victoria East
Victoria West

[svhorns]

SV is 4a.

[RocklandDragon]

Abilene is back in the LSWC. :D

Lubbock schools are back in 2-5A

Williamson County vs. Travis County in Region II bidistrict.

Excellent. Although, I liked Lubbock High playing the Midland-Odessa schools, ten teams in one district is tough. It was nice being a part of the LSWC again, though.

[Favpack]

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/pages/landing?FOX-Sports-Southwest-To-Televise-and-Web=1&blockID=170459&feedID=3601

[JagFan]

I'm gonna have to show me some FARMER LOVE!!!

ooooh weee you shore do have pertty eyes! :D


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Field day for Farmer:D

[thptrek]

Strake Jesuit joins the Katy schools with Memorial. Guess I will be seeing a lot of Rhodes for the next two years.

[RedRage00]

SV is 4a.

Welcome....we are too.

Go Warriors!
Go Titans!

[SWMHebron]

District 8


District 8

Allen

Lewisville

Lewisville Flower Mound

Lewisville Hebron

Lewisville Marcus

Plano

Plano East

Plano West

Can you say gas milage?

ACK:eek:

[Favpack]

Abilene is back in the LSWC. :D

Lubbock schools are back in 2-5A

Williamson County vs. Travis County in Region II bidistrict.

Excellent. Although, I liked Lubbock High playing the Midland-Odessa schools, ten teams in one district is tough. It was nice being a part of the LSWC again, though.

YES -the Lil SWC is BACK -- mostly anyway.

Awesome!!

[dada]

Strake Jesuit joins the Katy schools with Memorial. Guess I will be seeing a lot of Rhodes for the next two years.

Getting Katy to Crusader Stadium will be fun...lol

[AbEagleFan]

I guess the UIL figured out the changes they made in Districts 2 & 3 during the last realignment didn't make much sense so they put it back as it was. To bad for SA Central although at least they are back with us in basketball.

It was a pleasure playing in a district with teams from the metroplex but it's very nice being back with our old friends. Travel time is about the same but much less traffic to have to deal with.

[toonman]

Carroll's district...


District 7

Coppell

Denton Guyer

Keller

Keller Central

Keller Fossil Ridge

Northwest

Saginaw

Southlake Carroll


Thank you. Thank you UIL. The Dragons are not in a District with the Lewisville ISD schools. This has made my day.

[rudedog60]

8 teams in the district - that's crazy, I thought the playoff elimination was bad with 6. I can't imagine how many good teams won't make the playoffs with 8 teams playing for 4 spots. Wow!


Welcome to our world. 28-5 has been playing with 9 teams since I can remember. Looks like they took care of the Corpus/Laredo debacle by sticking them with the South San Antonio teams. Judson made out like a bandit. They ended up with just 6 teams in their district. Looks like Judson, Steele, Wagner, and New Braunfels will be making the playoffs every year. They also put Smithson Valley into 4A as predicted. Alamo Height won't be the dominate 4A team in San Antonio any longer.

[Firebird]

Things that jump out at me:

1. Long live the little SWC
2. Pooooooooooor San Angelo Central
3. R IV is a lot worse without SV/Westlake. Don't know if Cibolo Steele can make up the gap.
4. Eight team districts are nothing new, don't whine about it. Some of us have lived through days of 10 team districts.
5. I freaking hate district 31-5A.

[SWMHebron]

Thank you. Thank you UIL. The Dragons are not in a District with the Lewisville ISD schools. This has made my day.

Except for the first year against Hebron y'all seemed to do okay.

[bowiedawgs01]

What I like about this is that Bowie gets 5 non-district games. Seems like we've been in an 8-team district for a long time.

What I don't like about this is that we're likely to face Stony Point in the first round.

[CCCSportsFan]

Thank you. Thank you UIL. The Dragons are not in a District with the Lewisville ISD schools. This has made my day.

District 7-5A has a distinctive "Texas Motor Speedway" geographic feel to it with the exception of Coppell...

[pied]

District 8


District 8

Allen

Lewisville

Lewisville Flower Mound

Lewisville Hebron

Lewisville Marcus

Plano

Plano East

Plano West

Can you say gas milage?


Lamar to Weatherford is a bit longer than FMHS to Allen.


District 4
Arlington
Arlington Bowie
Arlington Houston
Arlington Lamar
Arlington Martin
Ft Worth Paschal
North Crowley
Weatherford

[Shadowweaver]

WHAT THE HECK!!!

New Braunfels was supposed to be in an Austin district and I was supposed to be able to walk to games at House Park from home :( :( :(

However, the NB v. Steele rivalry can now continue...

[bowiedawgs01]

Not 5A, but poooor San Angelo Lakeview. They're stuck with the Waco schools, Stephenville and Killeen.

[JagFan]

Lamar to Weatherford is a bit longer than FMHS to Allen.


District 4
Arlington
Arlington Bowie
Arlington Houston
Arlington Lamar
Arlington Martin
Ft Worth Paschal
North Crowley
Weatherford

Thank you Pied for pointing that out. They get to consider that as well.:D I was more concerned with my gas mileage. Selfish I know

[rudedog60]

What I like about this is that Bowie gets 5 non-district games. Seems like we've been in an 8-team district for a long time.

What I don't like about this is that we're likely to face Stony Point in the first round.

Wow! I didn't even notice they moved the Austin teams to Region 2. How will that affect your non-district games? Looks like you'll be doing some major road trips.

[thptrek]

Getting Katy to Crusader Stadium will be fun...lol

I guess we need to add some more bleachers, lol. The band and spirit squads will fill the current stands alone.

[rudedog60]

Did they drop Houston Spring Woods, Houston Northbrook, and Houston Stratford to 4A? Don't see them anywhere on the list. At least I thought they were 5A last year.

[StangBacker78]

So, in the Houston area, the movement was:
(1) Humble and New Caney move down... setting up Kingwood and Atascosita to be moved in with Conroe ISD and Lufkin
(2) Northbrook Stratford, and Spring Woods move down.... setting up SB Memorial to be moved in with Katy and Strake
(3) Galveston Ball, Baytown Lee, and Friendswood move down... which just thinned out districts 21, 22, and 24.
(3) Cy Lakes and Cy Ranch debut in 5A.. with CFISD moving back to Region III because of dissolving the Humble-Aldine district (that made so much sense that we knew it wouldn't last)
(5) Alief and Aldine are now paired together (even though they're not contiguous... at all) because their old dancing partners were scattered

Anything else major I missed from Greater Houston?

[bowiedawgs01]

Wow! I didn't even notice they moved the Austin teams to Region 2. How will that affect your non-district games? Looks like you'll be doing some major road trips.

Not sure. We may still play some 16-5A teams (maybe those we're sure not to face in the playoffs?). Also could play San Marcos or Seguin. We've played SA schools in the past. I'd also look for us to play a 4A or 2 in the area. Maybe Hays or an AISD team.

I'm hoping for a couple of good matchups though!

[KT2000]

Did they drop Houston Spring Woods, Houston Northbrook, and Houston Stratford to 4A? Don't see them anywhere on the list. At least I thought they were 5A last year.

They dropped. I'm surprised they held on in 5A for as long as they did.

[AbEagleFan]

Not 5A, but poooor San Angelo Lakeview. They're stuck with the Waco schools, Stephenville and Killeen.

Yeah, get the gas card out!

San Angelo as whole will be putting a lot of miles on those buses.

[thptrek]

Dog, they were all dropped to 4A.

[CyFallsMom]

Did they drop Houston Spring Woods, Houston Northbrook, and Houston Stratford to 4A? Don't see them anywhere on the list. At least I thought they were 5A last year.

They are in with Brenham, Waller and the Magnolia schools.

[CyFallsMom]

I guess we need to add some more bleachers, lol. The band and spirit squads will fill the current stands alone.

My first thought wasn't that it was a surprise but, rather, how in the HECK are they going to fit all those red clad fans in Crusader stadium!! Those Katy fans will be camping out on Bellaire 3 days ahead of the game to get a seat;)

[CyFallsMom]

So, in the Houston area, the movement was:
(1) Humble and New Caney move down... setting up Kingwood and Atascosita to be moved in with Conroe ISD and Lufkin
(2) Northbrook Stratford, and Spring Woods move down.... setting up SB Memorial to be moved in with Katy and Strake
(3) Galveston Ball, Baytown Lee, and Friendswood move down... which just thinned out districts 21, 22, and 24.
(3) Cy Lakes and Cy Ranch debut in 5A.. with CFISD moving back to Region III because of dissolving the Humble-Aldine district (that made so much sense that we knew it wouldn't last)
(5) Alief and Aldine are now paired together (even though they're not contiguous... at all) because their old dancing partners were scattered

Anything else major I missed from Greater Houston?

That 10 team district is going to be tough - we go into district play in WEEK TWO now...OMG:eek:. It was already tough enough getting through district play but I am glad we are back in RIII. I thought RII would be interesting but it wasn't. We did get a road trip out of it though;)

[Point Made...]

Welcome back to the 165A Pflugerville!...although ya'll seriously need to expand your stadium now to accommodate the masses we'll be bringing...:D

[rudedog60]

They dropped. I'm surprised they held on in 5A for as long as they did.


I'm an old Spring Branch graduate. With the exception of Memorial, looks like the old SBISD schools have faded off into history.

[AbEagleFan]

You all did notice how they split Class 2A and 1A into two divisions from the get go.

This is an "experiment" by the UIL and you can look forward to this format taking over our ranks within the next four years or so

[kellieam1]

Welcome back to the 165A Pflugerville!...although ya'll seriously need to expand your stadium now to accommodate the masses we'll be bringing...:D

I personally am glad to be "home" with the Round Rock schools, Georgetown and Leander. The House Park/Burger Center locations are hard to get to, plus the inevitable Thursday night game sucked. We will look forward to playing in the new Gtown stadium. Unfortunately, I don't think our little Kuempel Stadium is due for any expansion any time soon.

[farmerfan]

Thank you. Thank you UIL. The Dragons are not in a District with the Lewisville ISD schools. This has made my day.

I guess our mediocre programs wasn't enough competition for ya that you got your wish. Hoipefully the Keller schools can help better prepare ya ;)

[Soonertransplant]

Wow...this a throwback of sorts

Colleyville Heritage
Trinity
Grapevine
Bell
Haltom
Richland
Irving
McArthur
Nimitz

ehhh.... they will never ever put us with SLC, will they?

[SkyHighSkyline]

Welcome to the Big Leagues Denton Guyer! I'm looking forward to Guyer vs. SLC for the District 7-5A title.

[AbEagleFan]

Numbers from the Abilene paper.

2010-12 Reclassification & Realignment Information

Conference 5A: 2065 and above, 245 schools
Conference 4A: 990-2064, 246 schools
Conference 3A: 430-989, 190 schools
Conference 2A: 200-429, 229 schools
Conference 1A: 199 and below, 382 basketball schools; 167 Eleven-Man Football Schools; 130 Six-Man Football Schools

[WildcatFan2]

So... Wylie falls back into 4A by 7 students.

Back to the HP, Wylie, JJ Pearce district... along with Heath and Wylie East. My prediction... East beats the Pirates.

[DrEdward]

I guess our mediocre programs wasn't enough competition for ya that you got your wish. Hoipefully the Keller schools can help better prepare ya ;)

Not all of us got our wish. But your guys new district alignment is a beast. You folks will have schools with 3000+ kids that won't even come close to making the D-1 cut.

[farmerfan]

Not all of us got our wish. But your guys new district alignment is a beast. You folks will have schools with 3000+ kids that won't even come close to making the D-1 cut.

Plano West and Lewisville and Allen if they are all in contention for the playoffs along with Plano and Plano East, wow. We go from a large school to an average size school in this distrcit :eek: Should be fun though, if anything I get to be reunited with my favorite team in Planosucks ;)

[Soonertransplant]

Not all of us got our wish. But your guys new district alignment is a beast. You folks will have schools with 3000+ kids that won't even come close to making the D-1 cut.

Now THAT makes NO sense :confused: are there any other districts that out of whack, numbers-wise, when it comes down to putting the play-off teams inte D-1, D-2?

[78 Spartan]

I'm an old Spring Branch graduate. With the exception of Memorial, looks like the old SBISD schools have faded off into history.

I'm don't agree with your premise that moving to 4A is equivalent to oblivion.

Ask the 5A teams who have lost ballgames in recent years to Lake Travis, Lamar Consolidated Brenham, LaMarque, Waco, Longview, etc. if 4A teams can't compete.

Note that John Tyler and Smithson Valley are also moving to 4A according to this morning's announcement.

Looking at Stratford's district alignment, I don't think there's much doubt that Brenham and Waller are upgrades talent-wise versus anyone in Stratford's 5A district last year.

I think this is a great thing for Stratford. We'll still play Memorial, and road trips to Brenham will be a blast. This gives us the chance to pick up games against great programs like Port Neches, Angleton, etc.

I'm psyched.

[farmerfan]

Now THAT makes NO sense :confused: are there any other districts that out of whack, numbers-wise, when it comes down to putting the play-off teams inte D-1, D-2?[/COLOR]


I do not think there is but if things work out like this and say Plano and Plano East make the playoffs along with Allen and Plano West then you would actually have 2 schools with 4,000+ in D2:eek:

[bigdaddydog]

not all of us got our wish. But your guys new district alignment is a beast. You folks will have schools with 4000+ kids that won't even come close to making the d-1 cut.

FIFY Doc

:D



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[Drag Goon]

Welcome to the Big Leagues Denton Guyer! I'm looking forward to Guyer vs. SLC for the District 7-5A title.


I think Coppell will be the favorite. SLC will have to bring in a bunch of new players so I don't think they can be considered a favorite at this time.

[v2the4]

Im in pennslyvania right now for a training class, outside of this dump of a city called Philadelphia...Philly is a real dump..matter of fact, Ive come to realize that all of the major cities on the eastern seaboard are old, dirty and downright nasty....and you should see their high schools up here...OMG, we have elementary and junior high schools that are larger in Houston......they actually play their varsity games in daylight...enough said about that


just looking over the brackets quickly, it appears the UIL has once again shown why they cant be taken seriously with any realignment....they didnt make any positive changes....they refused to drop schools that needed to be sent down, and sent schools down that needed to stay up.....

Way too many 10 team districts, while the district they are lined up with in the bi district round has only six teams.....thats outrageous....I will post my in depth analysis of the UIL breakdown later in the week, after Im able to
thaw out once I make it back to another rat trap, Florida!!!

[DrEdward]

FIFY Doc

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Thanks, you're correct; I was trying to be conservative. I really don't care for these city-sized schools. :(

[Red Raider Rick]

Im in pennslyvania right now for a training class, outside of this dump of a city called Philadelphia...Philly is a real dump..matter of fact, Ive come to realize that all of the major cities on the eastern seaboard are old, dirty and downright nasty....and you should see their high schools up here...OMG, we have elementary and junior high schools that are larger in Houston......they actually play their varsity games in daylight...enough said about that


just looking over the brackets quickly, it appears the UIL has once again shown why they cant be taken seriously with any realignment....they didnt make any positive changes....they refused to drop schools that needed to be sent down, and sent schools down that needed to stay up.....

Way too many 10 team districts, while the district they are lined up with in the bi district round has only six teams.....thats outrageous....I will post my in depth analysis of the UIL breakdown later in the week, after Im able to
thaw out once I make it back to another rat trap, Florida!!!

Especially when the 10 team districts are loaded with 3-4 opt-ups.

[okt0ber]

So, in the Houston area, the movement was:
(1) Humble and New Caney move down... setting up Kingwood and Atascosita to be moved in with Conroe ISD and Lufkin
(2) Northbrook Stratford, and Spring Woods move down.... setting up SB Memorial to be moved in with Katy and Strake
(3) Galveston Ball, Baytown Lee, and Friendswood move down... which just thinned out districts 21, 22, and 24.
(3) Cy Lakes and Cy Ranch debut in 5A.. with CFISD moving back to Region III because of dissolving the Humble-Aldine district (that made so much sense that we knew it wouldn't last)
(5) Alief and Aldine are now paired together (even though they're not contiguous... at all) because their old dancing partners were scattered

Anything else major I missed from Greater Houston?

Wasn't Friendswood always 4A? I thought they were...

[da hawaiian]

I just looked at 6-5A. 9 teams? That major sucks.

[vinyl slider]

WHAT THE HECK!!!

New Braunfels was supposed to be in an Austin district and I was supposed to be able to walk to games at House Park from home :( :( :(

However, the NB v. Steele rivalry can now continue...

Sorry to see you won't have more games up that way, but with kids in the band, I'm glad to have another two years of close district games. :) I wonder how we're going to fill the rest of the non-district games. Canyon is a given, but then SV?, one of the NEISD schools? You might get a game closer than you think.

[da hawaiian]

where can I get enrollment numbers?

[SLC]

Wasn't Friendswood always 4A? I thought they were...


That is correct. They were with La Marque and Texas City, Angleton etc.. in 24-4A the last 2 years.

[SLC]

where can I get enrollment numbers?

It will eventually be put on the UIL website, but it's not up yet.

[vinyl slider]

Other thoughts on 25-5A? Looks like NB/Judson/Wagner/Steele were rewarded for good play (all four) and bad travel (Judson/Wagner) the past two years. Presuming the coaches can find enough non-district games, it seems there is a lot of flexibility in setting up the schedule for success.

[Shadowweaver]

Sorry to see you won't have more games up that way, but with kids in the band, I'm glad to have another two years of close district games. :) I wonder how we're going to fill the rest of the non-district games. Canyon is a given, but then SV?, one of the NEISD schools? You might get a game closer than you think.

I'm not sure if Canyon is necessarily a given, especially considering the shellackings they have been receiving as of late. I suppose it's not totally out of the question to play Canyon though.

I would hope NB plays some teams from the following list:

Westlake
Bowie
SA Madison
SA Reagan
Smithson Valley
Pflugerville
RR Stony Point

[etizzle]

CFISD Has returned to the promised land, aka RIII!!!! :D

[SaRattlerFan]

I'm not sure if Canyon is necessarily a given, especially considering the shellackings they have been receiving as of late. I suppose it's not totally out of the question to play Canyon though.

I would hope NB plays some teams from the following list:

Westlake
Bowie
SA Madison
SA Reagan
Smithson Valley
Pflugerville
RR Stony Point

Since Reagan now has 4 non-district games, I'm hoping NB is on the list along with SV.

[toonman]

District 7-5A has a distinctive "Texas Motor Speedway" geographic feel to it with the exception of Coppell...

Yes. I just disliked going east and north to games. I much prefer west and south. It would have been better to be in with Colleyville and Grapevine, but we may get that in 2012 & 2013.

[Maroondog]

Plano West and Lewisville and Allen if they are all in contention for the playoffs along with Plano and Plano East, wow. We go from a large school to an average size school in this distrcit :eek: Should be fun though, if anything I get to be reunited with my favorite team in Planosucks ;)

Its gonna be a lot of fun! ;)

[jbusch]

I just looked at 6-5A. 9 teams? That major sucks.

probably doesn't line up with what the coaches would like for predistrict, only 2 games ,

[toonman]

I guess our mediocre programs wasn't enough competition for ya that you got your wish. Hoipefully the Keller schools can help better prepare ya ;)

Yes and Lewisville will finish last in an 8 Team District rather than last in a 6 Team District. Enjoy your 0-8 District.

[StangBacker78]

Wasn't Friendswood always 4A? I thought they were...

Sorry, was mistaken- thought they were a 2-year move-up. Deepest apologies.

[farmerfan]

Yes and Lewisville will finish last in an 8 Team District rather than last in a 6 Team District. Enjoy your 0-8 District.

And Carroll might win district two years in a row playing against Mickey Mouse and the clubhosue 9. Have fun playing district 8 in bi-district. There is still Coppell though and they are under new direction, wouldn't count on beating them 2 years in a row.

[farmerfan]

Its gonna be a lot of fun! ;)

Yes it will. We're going to miss the arrogance and naiveness of some fans but I am sure we will get over it. I sit on the visitor side at all Lewisville home games. Come say hi when you come visit :D

[CyFallsMom]

I'm an old Spring Branch graduate. With the exception of Memorial, looks like the old SBISD schools have faded off into history.

I'm a former Bear myself and it is sad to see this happen. It happened once before - when they closed Spring Branch and Westchester. People just don't leave that area - my mom has lived there for 40 years as have the majority of her neighbors. When they don't leave, you have that demographic shift which doesn't always include kids. There are a lot of young professionals moving into the area too who don't have kids yet so it may shift back at some future point or they may end up closing another school or two. In Cy Fair, we have just the opposite issue - too many kids.

[CyFallsMom]

I'm don't agree with your premise that moving to 4A is equivalent to oblivion.

Ask the 5A teams who have lost ballgames in recent years to Lake Travis, Lamar Consolidated Brenham, LaMarque, Waco, Longview, etc. if 4A teams can't compete.

Note that John Tyler and Smithson Valley are also moving to 4A according to this morning's announcement.

Looking at Stratford's district alignment, I don't think there's much doubt that Brenham and Waller are upgrades talent-wise versus anyone in Stratford's 5A district last year.

I think this is a great thing for Stratford. We'll still play Memorial, and road trips to Brenham will be a blast. This gives us the chance to pick up games against great programs like Port Neches, Angleton, etc.

I'm psyched.

I wouldn't mind seeing that Brenham/Stratford matchup actually. I agree with your assessment entirely too. I hate to see them go down but there are a ton of 4A teams that could be the snot out of quite a few 5A teams. I would love to see Stratford excel at 4A and go deep this year.

[baylordad]

I guess our mediocre programs wasn't enough competition for ya that you got your wish. Hoipefully the Keller schools can help better prepare ya ;)
Hey Farmer, I may have to hang with you. Lots of renditions of "Plano Sucks":)

[farmerfan]

Hey Farmer, I may have to hang with you. Lots of renditions of "Plano Sucks":)

What they are going to love even more is I always sit on the visitor side at our home games. I am already getting my vocal chords into shape :)

[BandidoNB]

Sorry to see you won't have more games up that way, but with kids in the band, I'm glad to have another two years of close district games. :) I wonder how we're going to fill the rest of the non-district games. Canyon is a given, but then SV?, one of the NEISD schools? You might get a game closer than you think.


Canyon is not necessarily a given.. when i was in HS back in the late 1990s we never played Canyon... and I would be fine if that rivalry took a hiatus for the time being; its been getting pretty lopsided lately.

[shooter]

Other thoughts on 25-5A? Looks like NB/Judson/Wagner/Steele were rewarded for good play (all four) and bad travel (Judson/Wagner) the past two years. Presuming the coaches can find enough non-district games, it seems there is a lot of flexibility in setting up the schedule for success.

UIL does not consider "Good Play" remember this is not just ABOUT football, realignment affects all athletics, fine arts and academic competitions.

UIL announces the Football and basketball first but eventually once all of the appeals are heard they will include the other sports and activities as well.

[cyfallsbooster2]

Wasn't Friendswood always 4A? I thought they were...

Yes.

[baylordad]

where can I get enrollment numbers?
Got these numbers from Padilla's site...
ET 3063
Bell ????
Colleyville 2329
Grapevine 2167
Haltom 2450
Richland 2160
Irving Mac 3191
Irving Nimitz 3090
Irving 2952
Don't know how accurate they are.

[Dawg Fan]

Thank you Pied for pointing that out. They get to consider that as well.:D I was more concerned with my gas mileage. Selfish I know

Try having to drive 150 miles one way to a district game and then you can look at mileage;)

[JagFan]

Try having to drive 150 miles one way to a district game and then you can look at mileage;)

I really didn't mean to start anything. It is a long way mile wise as well as time wise over to Plano. I am in no way saying we have it the worst than some of the other schools. Just made an observation that we will be doing a lot of driving. As will some other schools. I feel your pain, I really do.:)

[F18mustang]

Try having to drive 150 miles one way to a district game and then you can look at mileage;)

We take it for granted don't we? Its almost part of the experience, driving and all.

[banannie]

I think this is a great thing for Stratford. We'll still play Memorial, and road trips to Brenham will be a blast.

I'm with you, Spartan - Brenham weekend trips sound great!

Hey, don't you and your family have a new place in Brenham??

PARTY AT SPARTAN'S FARM!!!~~:D

[SWMHebron]

I really didn't mean to start anything. It is a long way mile wise as well as time wise over to Plano. I am in no way saying we have it the worst than some of the other schools. Just made an observation that we will be doing a lot of driving. As will some other schools. I feel your pain, I really do.:)

Former 6-5A current 8-5A moms are at it again.:D

At one time when we were in with Marcus, Flower Mound, Coppell and the 3 Carrollton schools our office in Lewisville was closer to every stadium in the district than to Hebron. We got really spoiled those 2 seasons.

[Red Raider Rick]

I'm a former Bear myself and it is sad to see this happen. It happened once before - when they closed Spring Branch and Northbrook. People just don't leave that area - my mom has lived there for 40 years as have the majority of her neighbors. When they don't leave, you have that demographic shift which doesn't always include kids. There are a lot of young professionals moving into the area too who don't have kids yet so it may shift back at some future point or they may end up closing another school or two. In Cy Fair, we have just the opposite issue - too many kids.

I think you meant to say SBISD closed Westchester with Spring Branch High. The numbers have never returned. Even the classmates I know that moved back have run out of kids for SBISD. It's been a whole generation now.

[toonman]

And Carroll might win district two years in a row playing against Mickey Mouse and the clubhosue 9. Have fun playing district 8 in bi-district. There is still Coppell though and they are under new direction, wouldn't count on beating them 2 years in a row.

Remember in all the Record Books there is never an asterisk after any District Champions denoting that a "Mickey Mouse and the clubhouse 9" schedule was played.

Also I seem to remember Carroll winning District 6 last year. Most teams would take a District Championship every 2 years; unless you are Lewisville and one this century is an achievement. Wait, let me look outside - no flying pigs, so do count on Lewisville winning a District Championship any time soon.

[SWMHebron]

Remember in all the Record Books there is never an asterisk after any District Champions denoting that a "Mickey Mouse and the clubhouse 9" schedule was played.

Also I seem to remember Carroll winning District 6 last year. Most teams would take a District Championship every 2 years; unless you are Lewisville and one this century is an achievement. Wait, let me look outside - no flying pigs, so do count on Lewisville winning a District Championship any time soon.

So you are a believer in the might of the Farmers?

[The Lone Ranger]

I find it amazing that Jesuit has been in the UIL since 2003 and yet next year will be the first time we're with WT White, who are essentially in our backyard (no more than half a mile away).

Jesuit's back with the RISD schools, who were my favorite district mates thus far--too bad Pearce is still a 4A school--I always liked playing them. Jesuit and Pearce have a fierce rivalry in swimming.

The only issue I can see with our new alignment is at subvarsity levels. I don't think the DISD schools have two freshman teams and two JV teams in each sport, so that's going to be interesting to try to find games for the Freshman B kids.

Our fans may not like travelling to Sunset/Sprague and Skyline/Forester but it beats driving in rush hour traffic to McKinney.

[Trojanalum693]

Got these numbers from Padilla's site...
ET 3063
Bell ????
Colleyville 2329
Grapevine 2167
Haltom 2450
Richland 2160
Irving Mac 3191
Irving Nimitz 3090
Irving 2952
Don't know how accurate they are.

This means we are not a D1 lock anymore. That sucks. Pretty sure Bell has smaller enrollment than Trinity though. I will try and find out Bell's enrollment.

[JagFan]

So you are a believer in the might of the Farmers?

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

[SWMHebron]

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

Notice I quoted him so even if he fixes it his Freudian slip is there for all to see.

[JagFan]

Former 6-5A current 8-5A moms are at it again.:D

At one time when we were in with Marcus, Flower Mound, Coppell and the 3 Carrollton schools our office in Lewisville was closer to every stadium in the district than to Hebron. We got really spoiled those 2 seasons.

I guess. Said one thing about gas mileage. I remember being in with the Carrollton schools. Not much travel at all. I guess the last two years we haven't either.

[JagFan]

Notice I quoted him so even if he fixes it his Freudian slip is there for all to see.

I think he is a secret Farmer fan and it just got exposed.:eek:

[AE 8008]

We take it for granted don't we? Its almost part of the experience, driving and all.

pretty much. alot of fun can be had on a bus ride home after a nice win

[shooter]

Our fans may not like travelling to Sunset/Sprague and Skyline/Forester but it beats driving in rush hour traffic to McKinney.

Why would Jesuit fans have a problem traveling to Sunset/Sprague and Skyline/Forester???

[SkyHighSkyline]

Anyone know how close Highland Park came to 5A classification this time around?

[SWMHebron]

Anyone know how close Highland Park came to 5A classification this time around?

My guess was 23. I'm really interested in the real number.

[marcusdrillmom]

Originally Posted by Silver Wings Mom http://forums.5atexasfootball.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.5atexasfootball.com/showthread.php?p=1456557#post1456557)
Former 6-5A current 8-5A moms are at it again.:D

At one time when we were in with Marcus, Flower Mound, Coppell and the 3 Carrollton schools our office in Lewisville was closer to every stadium in the district than to Hebron. We got really spoiled those 2 seasons.



I guess. Said one thing about gas mileage. I remember being in with the Carrollton schools. Not much travel at all. I guess the last two years we haven't either.

There you two go again....:D

And Toon so happy to hear you are a closet Farmer Fan;)

[baylordad]

Anyone know how close Highland Park came to 5A classification this time around?

HP had 1903. Missed 5A by 162.

[marcusdrillmom]

HP had 1903. Missed 5A by 162.

hmmmm

[LoboBooster73]

HP had 1903. Missed 5A by 162.

Anybody remember that article in DMN about HPISD enrollment going up because HP parents were foregoing private schools in these economic times? Then HPHS turns in a lower number than they did in 2008. Either all those increases were non-high school age children or someone is trying to position themselves for D2.

[bowiedawgs01]

My guess was +150. I win.

[Bruig]

Dropped Cedar Park and Vista Ridge for Pflugerville ... Friday Night Lights

District 16
Georgetown
Leander
Pflugerville
Round Rock
Round Rock McNeil
Round Rock Stony Pt.
Round Rock Westwood

I wanted CP to remain in district cuz a rivalry was brewing. Now CP is in district with Lake Travis. :rolleyes: Should give Beanz something to talk about.

[CyFallsMom]

I think you meant to say SBISD closed Westchester with Spring Branch High. The numbers have never returned. Even the classmates I know that moved back have run out of kids for SBISD. It's been a whole generation now.

Why, yes, I meant Westchester - I think I had NB Jr High - which did close but was reopened later - on my mind. I'll correct that, kind sir, and thank you! I hope this move to 4a means more success for your program - I would love to see all three of these teams do well.

[jbusch]

nm

[semi68]

This means we are not a D1 lock anymore. That sucks. Pretty sure Bell has smaller enrollment than Trinity though. I will try and find out Bell's enrollment.

Yeah, well, it looks like my Mustangs are a D2 lock, though. Sucks to be the littlest guy.:rolleyes:

[The Lone Ranger]

Why would Jesuit fans have a problem traveling to Sunset/Sprague and Skyline/Forester???

They're far away and in the opposite direction from where most fans live, for starters. They also have the perception of being "ghetto." Forester isn't that bad, but the neighborhood around Kimball kinda scares me. DISD does have incredibly good security at games and I doubt it will be a problem, but there is the perception issue. I have a feeling there won't be many Ranger fans at games at DISD venues unless they're Loos or Franklin.

[kool_kat]

Cypress Creek is only about 4 miles from Klein High School but yet they could "theoritically" play each other for the SC. Actually some kids along Champion Forest Drive are across the street from each other. Welcome to R2 Westake, Kingwood, and Atascocita.

[SLC]

My guess was +150. I win.



I seconded it. I'll take my cookies with milk, thanks.

[farmerfan]

Remember in all the Record Books there is never an asterisk after any District Champions denoting that a "Mickey Mouse and the clubhouse 9" schedule was played.

Also I seem to remember Carroll winning District 6 last year. Most teams would take a District Championship every 2 years; unless you are Lewisville and one this century is an achievement. Wait, let me look outside - no flying pigs, so do count on Lewisville winning a District Championship any time soon.

Medicore trash talk there toonman. I see like your football program and current state of affairs we have completed our mission in making you totally an completely mediocre.
I also never knew they had asteriks in the record book for having teams with coaches that fans *****ed about constantly, guess what? Maybe Carroll in the post Dodge era might be lucky and win at least a regional championship this year.

[slcdragonfan]

Medicore trash talk there toonman. I see like your football program and current state of affairs we have completed our mission in making you totally an completely mediocre.
I also never knew they had asteriks in the record book for having teams with coaches that fans *****ed about constantly, guess what? Maybe Carroll in the post Dodge era might be lucky and win at least a regional championship this year.

I am still proud of our team and what they have accomplished the past few years. It is not what we had hoped, but they have performed well for the most part. I remember some excellent and close games where everything was on the line, two great warrior teams battling to the end including Allen, Coppell, Hebron, Marcus. If this is mediocre, then I think many programs would like to be mediocre. I will miss the 6-5A teams and fans as they are passionate about and supportive of their teams. Good to great coaching as well. By the way, Lewisville kids have all my respect, they never quit out there, even when it was impossible. Character. Same for Flower Mound.

Maybe we will get lucky. As I define it, luck is being prepared to take advantage of opportunity when it arises.

[farmerfan]

I am still proud of our team and what they have accomplished the past few years. It is not what we had hoped, but they have performed well for the most part. I remember some excellent and close games where everything was on the line, two great warrior teams battling to the end including Allen, Coppell, Hebron, Marcus. If this is mediocre, then I think many programs would like to be mediocre. I will miss the 6-5A teams and fans as they are passionate about and supportive of their teams. Good to great coaching as well. By the way, Lewisville kids have all my respect, they never quit out there, even when it was impossible. Character. Same for Flower Mound.

Maybe we will get lucky. As I define it, luck is being prepared to take advantage of opportunity when it arises.

As you should be proud of your team, goes to show you how big of a dumba.ss toonman is. Then again that's not shocking seeing as how he is just a bitter man about everything in life. Glad that includes the greater flowerplex as well.

[KC88]

YES!!! The Little SWC is back together again! (with the exception of SAC)

[E-Vol-ution]

So you'd just let your kids come into Kimball and fend for themselves?
Tell me....just when you've been at Kimball? They did have a major problem with one team but many, many games have been played there.
Somehow....I now have the feeling I'd like to see Jesuit "drilled" in that game due to the postings of one person.:(
They're far away and in the opposite direction from where most fans live, for starters. They also have the perception of being "ghetto." Forester isn't that bad, but the neighborhood around Kimball kinda scares me. DISD does have incredibly good security at games and I doubt it will be a problem, but there is the perception issue. I have a feeling there won't be many Ranger fans at games at DISD venues unless they're Loos or Franklin.

[The Lone Ranger]

So you'd just let your kids come into Kimball and fend for themselves?
Tell me....just when you've been at Kimball? They did have a major problem with one team but many, many games have been played there.
Somehow....I now have the feeling I'd like to see Jesuit "drilled" in that game due to the postings of one person.:(

I went to grade school in DISD and went to Kimball multiple times for UIL competitions and to play sports at Sprague. It's not the greatest neighborhood. That being said, there is excellent security and nothing to worry about, because DISD Police do a very good job at what they do. That doesn't mean that Jesuit fans aren't going to have misconceptions.

Also, Jesuit wouldn't play Kimball there, it would be Sunset, who are a lot less likely to "drill us."

That game could just as easily be at Kincaide though. Similar situation, but a lot newer and nicer facility.

[The Lone Ranger]

Remember in all the Record Books there is never an asterisk after any District Champions denoting that a "Mickey Mouse and the clubhouse 9" schedule was played.

Also I seem to remember Carroll winning District 6 last year. Most teams would take a District Championship every 2 years; unless you are Lewisville and one this century is an achievement. Wait, let me look outside - no flying pigs, so do count on Lewisville winning a District Championship any time soon.

Didn't Lewisville win 3 state titles in the last century? That's decent by most accounts.

[farmerfan]

Didn't Lewisville win 3 state titles in the last century? That's decent by most accounts.

They won 2 and lost a heart breaker in the '72 finals

[has09]

Forrester is all right its close to a sketchy part of Dallas though.

The area around Sprague looks like it used to be nice once upon a time. DISD police is OK, sure didn't do much to stop the melee this year between Kimball and A Maceo Smith, and on the same night at halftime there was a shooting behind the stadium.

Gotta love Sprague, dont think Sunset plays home games there do they?

[has09]

texasbob says Sunset plays at Forrester along with Skyline and Samuell. WT White plays home games at Loos

[The Lone Ranger]

texasbob says Sunset plays at Forrester along with Skyline and Samuell. WT White plays home games at Loos

Sunset played home games at Forester, Sprague, Kincaide, and Pleasant Grove last year, so we could play them really anywhere. Sprague is the closest stadium to their campus though I think.

White always plays at Loos, which is basically right by Jesuit. Skyline always plays at Forester. Samuell plays at Forester usually but also plays at Pleasant Grove and Seagoville I think.

[E-Vol-ution]

That Smith melee really put a bad shadow on the Kimball area.
Drive thru there in the day and you'll see blue collar folks and manicured lawns.
Proactive referees could have nipped that in the bud early.
I coached Pop Warner there for many years and never witnessed a problem. There was never any security.....just football folks.
I agree the security is very good at these games.
You are correct about misconceptions.....it's a shame.
I went to grade school in DISD and went to Kimball multiple times for UIL competitions and to play sports at Sprague. It's not the greatest neighborhood. That being said, there is excellent security and nothing to worry about, because DISD Police do a very good job at what they do. That doesn't mean that Jesuit fans aren't going to have misconceptions.

Also, Jesuit wouldn't play Kimball there, it would be Sunset, who are a lot less likely to "drill us."

That game could just as easily be at Kincaide though. Similar situation, but a lot newer and nicer facility.