Secondary

[da hawaiian]

As a followup to the theme from my earlier post Front7 this is for prospective secondary.

Just a fun topic to bounce between fans about what their teams final lineup will look like. Maybe between multiple fans, we might be able to piece together a more accurate picture.

I'll start with Trinity:

Predominate pre-snap look (Cover2)

Graduating: 2 Corners and FS

Possibly look for So Ilaiu Moeakiolla to transition to FS from Rover and take over secondary call. as the lone returning starter he has experience, hopefully he can translate that experience into leadership.

For Rover - Chris Barnett. Where else do you put a player of his size and versatility? Hopefully he'll take the Hybrid DE/OLB spot vacated by the graduating coker but if he goes safety, this is where I see him.

If he does take the hybrid spot, then I see the supremely athletic Brian Nance at OLB, and Qniko's sliding back to either Rover or FS.

Corner back? I am completely at a loss. Lots of candidates but I'm hoping some of my Trojan compatriots might have an idea who the front runners are.

It will be interesting to see what actually happens. Another likely scenario is to move Thomas back to Safety where he played last year before injury neccesitated his move to OLB as part of a major shuffle proir week 3 against Allen.

In my dream scenario Barnett accepts the Hybrid roll, Nance slides to OLB and Thomas returns to safety with Moeakiolla. Yet Anther scenario, Barnett takes Rover and Moeakiolla slides to LB with Nance at Hybrid.

Barnett and Nance - 2 hugely talented individuals who could line up anywhere on defense and they'd excel. It will be interesting to see where they finally end up.

Listed with returning starter in bold, Sr's first.
FS - Sr Qniko Thomas 5'10 175lbs, Jr Ilaiu Moeakiolla 6'0 185lbs,
SS/Rover - Sr Chris Barnet 6'5 230lbs, Sr Qniko Thomas 5'10 175lbs, Jr Ilaiu Moeakiolla 6'0 185lbs
R Corner - ???
L Corner - ???

[CCCSportsFan]

SL Carroll will have Shawn Hoagland, a 2 year starter, returning at corner. He's battle tested and a very solid player.

Austin Bridgers saw some game action last year at safety. He should do well and is smart player.

The other 2 slots will have a lot of competition to fill during spring ball.

[Prep Ticket]

Is Barnett seriously an option in the secondary? At his size I would think he'd be slotted for Defensive end or linebacker - or his natural position of tight end. I was surprised Nance didn't get on the field last year, he looks the part.

[E-Vol-ution]

Bowie brings back everybody including some back-ups that played quite a bit. No shortage here.

[trojanbacker]

Is Barnett seriously an option in the secondary? At his size I would think he'd be slotted for Defensive end or linebacker - or his natural position of tight end. I was surprised Nance didn't get on the field last year, he looks the part.


Nance played quite a bit, I believe.

[da hawaiian]

He's a secondary prospect because it's rumored it's his wish to play safety. So i didn't want to eliminate the likelihood of him lining up there until it's known that he wont. But I agree, I'd rather see him elsewhere.

I thought we'd discuss him there anyways while also weighing the possiblity of other spots like the Hybrid (YES!!!!). If he doesn't play defense then the picture becomes clearer. Nance - Hybrid, Qniko - WOLB, Moeakiola - FS, Sione Paipa (6'1 185lbs) - SS. If he goes Defense then Paipa spends his Jr year on the bench.

Yes, I can't believe Nance didn't get on the varsity field full time last year. Physically he was definately ready.

[da hawaiian]

Bowie brings back everybody including some back-ups that played quite a bit. No shortage here.

Names pretty please, include vitals eg: height, weight, varsity experience, and name the back-ups too

Oh yes and thank you

[da hawaiian]

Nance played quite a bit, I believe.

He did, but only when the starters were done.

feel free to correct here anyone, but I belive he went from Rover his Freshman year, to OLB this past season. Prior to that didnt he live in NY? so he's still new to the program.

[da hawaiian]

SL Carroll will have Shawn Hoagland, a 3 year starter, returning at corner. He's battle tested and a very solid player.

Austin Bridgers saw some game action last year at safety. He should do well and is smart player.

The other 2 slots will have a lot of competition to fill during spring ball.

Hoagland played as a true freshman? He was very impressive this past year. A stat leader in so many areas, definately a huge plus.

I don't want to take anything away from the athletic windfall that has come thru the lockerroom at Carroll. But Smart, coachable, and effort - are qualities that to me, is synonymous with the Dragon jersey.

[E-Vol-ution]

George Adams 5'9" 145 Sr, Malcolm Surrell 5'8" 180 Sr, Robert Zenon 5'7" 155 jr, BJ Jenkins 5'11" 190 jr, Quentin Sargeant 6'0" 185 Sr, Zyrron Walton 5'8" 175 Sr, Brian White Sr 6'0" 170 Sr, Neal Clark 5' 10" 185 Sr

Names pretty please, include vitals eg: height, weight, varsity experience, and name the back-ups too

Oh yes and thank you

[CCCSportsFan]

Hoagland played as a true freshman? He was very impressive this past year. A stat leader in so many areas, definately a huge plus.

I don't want to take anything away from the athletic windfall that has come thru the lockerroom at Carroll. But Smart, coachable, and effort - are qualities that to me, is synonymous with the Dragon jersey.

Oooppss, my mistake... I meant he's been a starter the past 2 seasons, I'll go back and change my original post.

Da Hawaiian, thanks for your compliments about our kids being smart, coachable and hard working ;)

[Prep Ticket]

He did, but only when the starters were done.

feel free to correct here anyone, but I belive he went from Rover his Freshman year, to OLB this past season. Prior to that didnt he live in NY? so he's still new to the program.

You and the Trojan Backer would know better than I. The games that I saw however, I don't ever recall seeing him anywhere but the sidelines. I assumed he was Dimitri's brother but if he moved here from New York I guess there's no relation?

I know Coach Averitt has high hopes for Paipa, so my guess is that he gets one of the safety spots and Barnett sees time on both sides of the ball - tight end and Def. End. They will play him wherever he's needed most but could see some action on both sides.

[Prep Ticket]

George Adams 5'9" 145 Sr, Malcolm Surrell 5'8" 180 Sr, Robert Zenon 5'7" 155 jr, BJ Jenkins 5'11" 190 jr, Quentin Sargeant 6'0" 185 Sr, Zyrron Walton 5'8" 175 Sr, Brian White Sr 6'0" 170 Sr, Neal Clark 5' 10" 185 Sr

Surrell, Sargent and White all had a good year last year. This is one of the better secondary's in the metroplex IMHO.

[trojanbacker]

You and the Trojan Backer would know better than I. The games that I saw however, I don't ever recall seeing him anywhere but the sidelines. I assumed he was Dimitri's brother but if he moved here from New York I guess there's no relation?

I know Coach Averitt has high hopes for Paipa, so my guess is that he gets one of the safety spots and Barnett sees time on both sides of the ball - tight end and Def. End. They will play him wherever he's needed most but could see some action on both sides.

You know, I saw a lot of JV games last season and I may be confusing hearing his name called at those games rather than varsity. I'm old...I know I heard his name called a lot....not sure where.

[da hawaiian]

Oooppss, my mistake... I meant he's been a starter the past 2 seasons, I'll go back and change my original post.

Da Hawaiian, thanks for your compliments about our kids being smart, coachable and hard working ;)

The Dragons are forever etched in Trojan Lore after beating arguably one of our most complete teams.

You know, I saw a lot of JV games last season and I may be confusing hearing his name called at those games rather than varsity. I'm old...I know I heard his name called a lot....not sure where.

me too

[TrinityTrojan80]

You know, I saw a lot of JV games last season and I may be confusing hearing his name called at those games rather than varsity. I'm old...I know I heard his name called a lot....not sure where.


Nance had extentive time starting on the JV. From what I heard he was always making plays on the ball. I guess if a player plays on JV they can suit up but can't play on varsity because I only saw him play varsity in 2 games. He was awsome when he played but it was garbage time. He did suit up most weeks for varsity.

[trojanbacker]

Nance had extentive time starting on the JV. From what I heard he was always making plays on the ball. I guess if a player plays on JV they can suit up but can't play on varsity because I only saw him play varsity in 2 games. He was awsome when he played but it was garbage time. He did suit up most weeks for varsity.

I remember turning to ask someone in the crowd if he was related to Dimitri and was told there was no relation.

[E-Vol-ution]

I believe they will do very well this year.....Jenkins made the 5A Texas Football all sophomore team. He started varsity from the day he stepped on the field and is a leader by nature, Zenon was running a 4.4 last year as a sophomore. No more quiet times in the secondary, this will also be Sargeant's third year as a starter. It takes a while to be a skilled man on man defender..........these kids play well together and only know winning.Surrell, Sargent and White all had a good year last year. This is one of the better secondary's in the metroplex IMHO.

[The Twin]

As a followup to the theme from my earlier post Front7 this is for prospective secondary.

Just a fun topic to bounce between fans about what their teams final lineup will look like. Maybe between multiple fans, we might be able to piece together a more accurate picture.

I'll start with Trinity:

Predominate pre-snap look (Cover2)

Graduating: 2 Corners and FS

Possibly look for So Ilaiu Moeakiolla to transition to FS from Rover and take over secondary call. as the lone returning starter he has experience, hopefully he can translate that experience into leadership.

For Rover - Chris Barnett. Where else do you put a player of his size and versatility? Hopefully he'll take the Hybrid DE/OLB spot vacated by the graduating coker but if he goes safety, this is where I see him.

If he does take the hybrid spot, then I see the supremely athletic Brian Nance at OLB, and Qniko's sliding back to either Rover or FS.

Corner back? I am completely at a loss. Lots of candidates but I'm hoping some of my Trojan compatriots might have an idea who the front runners are.

It will be interesting to see what actually happens. Another likely scenario is to move Thomas back to Safety where he played last year before injury neccesitated his move to OLB as part of a major shuffle proir week 3 against Allen.

In my dream scenario Barnett accepts the Hybrid roll, Nance slides to OLB and Thomas returns to safety with Moeakiolla. Yet Anther scenario, Barnett takes Rover and Moeakiolla slides to LB with Nance at Hybrid.

Barnett and Nance - 2 hugely talented individuals who could line up anywhere on defense and they'd excel. It will be interesting to see where they finally end up.

Listed with returning starter in bold, Sr's first.
FS - Sr Qniko Thomas 5'10 175lbs, Jr Ilaiu Moeakiolla 6'0 185lbs,
SS/Rover - Sr Chris Barnet 6'5 230lbs, Sr Qniko Thomas 5'10 175lbs, Jr Ilaiu Moeakiolla 6'0 185lbs
R Corner - ???
L Corner - ??? Not much to add reference next years secondary...wouldn't pretend to have the knowledge to partic
ipate in this conversation...however, I noticed Trinity Mens Choir...part of the most decorated program Trinity has to offer including football...I have a son who is in acapella and his third year of Show Choir...(Harmony) and my oldest daughter also spent three fine years in this program, including Harmony...Nice to see Trinity Mens Choir included in all your posts...And..I do know my football, but more of a seasonal participant.

[MALAMEDICINA]

Teams will think twice or more, before passing the ball down the middle. That is a very fast kid for his size. That much weight moving that quickly is devastating. I wouldnt mind him at Safety, but also I would use him as a fifth line on blitz plays. Lots of kids, just gotta wait and see how our coaches plug them in.

[Trojanalum693]

For one of the corner positions I could possibly see Brandon Carter playing it part time in key situations such as on 3rd or 4th down or in the redzone. However if he switches to QB there is no way he will see time on defense.

Averitt really wants him to be on defense, but the offensive coaches wont let him make the move full time to defense that is for sure. (Unless there are significant amounts of injuries). Brandon Carter could be a shut down corner.

[Trojanalum693]

Teams will think twice or more, before passing the ball down the middle. That is a very fast kid for his size. That much weight moving that quickly is devastating. I wouldnt mind him at Safety, but also I would use him as a fifth line on blitz plays. Lots of kids, just gotta wait and see how our coaches plug them in.

Yep they will definitely do lots of experimenting during Spring football to try and find out the best position for the players they have. They move so many guys around even during the season. So when playoff time comes around they have the best personell grouping.

[MALAMEDICINA]

And Ive said this all along, if Carter doesnt end up at QB, I would put him at corner in a heartbeat. You would have one side of the field off-limits for opposing QB's. At corner fulltime, I see over 10 Interceptions, and some of those all the way back for points.

[TrinityTrojan80]

And Ive said this all along, if Carter doesnt end up at QB, I would put him at corner in a heartbeat. You would have one side of the field off-limits for opposing QB's. At corner fulltime, I see over 10 Interceptions, and some of those all the way back for points.

You are speaking like Carter is the only thing Trinity has going! I understand he is very versitile and play many positions but the cupboard is not bare behind him. Trinity would be favored to win it all even if he was not on the team.

These guys will be more than able to take care of the secondary.
DJ Haynes 6'2" 180
Q'Niko Thomas 5'10" 176
Karriem Bradford 5'9" 166
Jimmy Grandberry 6'2" 160
Terrell Williams 5'10" 157
Ilaiu Moeakiola 6' 190
Chris Barnett 6'6" 248
Jovontae Pettigrew 5'8" 168

Trinity will resemble Dallas Skyline with the speed of these guys. We don't need any move in and I would be surprised if a couple of them move out and become stars elsewhere.
The bottom line for me is, why mess with the sucess that we have here and have anyone go both ways (unless it's an in-game decision)?

Pettigrew,Bradford, Williams and Haynes will burn up the turf next year with their speed. If they were to get into a combine somewhere they would all be touted as D-1 prospects! Put Carter at QB because he will excel there and let the defense take care of defense. I'm a Carter fan so don't take it as a knock on him but for the team chemistry he should focus on one position.

[chhspantherfan]

You are speaking like Carter is the only thing Trinity has going! I understand he is very versitile and play many positions but the cupboard is not bare behind him. Trinity would be favored to win it all even if he was not on the team.

These guys will be more than able to take care of the secondary.
DJ Haynes 6'2" 180
Q'Niko Thomas 5'10" 176
Karriem Bradford 5'9" 166
Jimmy Grandberry 6'2" 160
Terrell Williams 5'10" 157
Ilaiu Moeakiola 6' 190
Chris Barnett 6'6" 248
Jovontae Pettigrew 5'8" 168

Trinity will resemble Dallas Skyline with the speed of these guys. We don't need any move in and I would be surprised if a couple of them move out and become stars elsewhere.
The bottom line for me is, why mess with the sucess that we have here and have anyone go both ways (unless it's an in-game decision)?

Pettigrew,Bradford, Williams and Haynes will burn up the turf next year with their speed. If they were to get into a combine somewhere they would all be touted as D-1 prospects! Put Carter at QB because he will excel there and let the defense take care of defense. I'm a Carter fan so don't take it as a knock on him but for the team chemistry he should focus on one position.

excellent insight. I love me some BC and have going way back, but you have a great list to choose from.

With all of the choices in the secondary, I look for BC to play on offense.






As for the Panthers, we return the 2009 5-5A defensive Soph of the Year in Ryan Burchfield. We graduated both safeties and a corner. The biggest hole to fill will be the loss of Cody Love at Safety. But, I have tremendous confidence in the defensive staff. Coaches Stralow (DC), Anderson (S), and Symon (C) will find the right chemistry from a talented group. Lots of speed !!! I am anxious for spring ball to start so that we can see how it will shake out. Will revisit this thread at that time and give you my thoughts.

[MALAMEDICINA]

#9 Thomas, if healthy all year, is gonna end up in the All-State team next. I still want BC for QB at ET! The biggest problem is the number of kids that are starting caliber, and trying to use them all accordingly. Headaches for our coaches this offseason. (Those are the headaches you want though.):)

[Trojanalum693]

As I said before the coaches will be doing lots of experimenting during Spring Football and even during the season.

BC could be a shutdown corner. I said he don't have to play it full time just in crucial situations. He played some corner against Plano and made 2 key pass breakups that probably won us that game.

[da hawaiian]

Arlington Martin http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:x7LBYYRNJJ2nAM:http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/42/426672.gif

Returns 5 first selection players. This unit will be an early strength for the rest of the defense. With players like Washington, Sparks, Pollard and Caldwell in the rear, look for Martin to Stay aggressive and unorthodox with it's Defensive front.

Returners:

#7 CB Ryan pollard: 5’9 155lbs 2nd team defense
#9 SS Devanta Sparks 5’11 185lbs 1st team defense
#20 FS Danzel Williams 5’9 190lbs 1st team offense (OU Commit)
#21 CB Steven Caldwell 5’7 155lbs
#26 FS Josh Garcia 5’10 160lbs

This unit is fast and talented. Maybe one of the best Safety combinations around. Williams can play any of the 4 positions. With terrific hips and change of direction, look for OU to keep this kid at corner.

[da hawaiian]

http://prepnation.com/pix/2007/pic400.gif

My updated Trojan secondary looks like this: Still very dynamic so take it for what it's worth

FS - Look for Iliau Moeakiolla to move to the generals role at the back to make room for the bigger and more physcial Paipa at SS/Rover. Also so far I think Edwards and Williams are in the lead for the corner spots

C - Joseph Edwards 6'3" 175lbs
C - Terrell Williams 5'10 155lbs
FS - Iliau Moeikiolla 6'0 180lbs
SS - Sione Paipa 6'1 180lbs

Will be interesting how this unit develops, who ever ends up in the starting role. Edwards is a very intriguing prospect.

[E-Vol-ution]

Arlington Bowie:

George Adams 5'9" 145 Sr
Neal Clark 5'10" 185 Sr
Ananias Hudson 5'9" 160 Sr
BJ Jenkins 5'11" 190 Jr (all district, TX 5A all state sophomore)
Quentin Sargeant 6'0" 185 Sr (3 yr starter,all district)
Delenzi Turner-Green 5'9" 180 Jr
Zyron Walton 5'8" 175 Sr
Brian White 6'0" 170 Sr
Robert Zenon 5'7" 155 Jr
Malcolm Surrell 5'8" 180 Sr (all district)

Bolded were starters last year, others played significant minutes.
Doesn't include JV players of which Andre (forget last name), "the heat seeking missile" will be on the field. Easily the deepest position on the team. Zenon will see time at receiver, he's a Reggie Bush clone.

[trojanbacker]

excellent insight. I love me some BC and have going way back, but you have a great list to choose from.

With all of the choices in the secondary, I look for BC to play on offense.






As for the Panthers, we return the 2009 5-5A defensive Soph of the Year in Ryan Burchfield. We graduated both safeties and a corner. The biggest hole to fill will be the loss of Cody Love at Safety. But, I have tremendous confidence in the defensive staff. Coaches Stralow (DC), Anderson (S), and Symon (C) will find the right chemistry from a talented group. Lots of speed !!! I am anxious for spring ball to start so that we can see how it will shake out. Will revisit this thread at that time and give you my thoughts.


Ya'll had a pretty salty group over there last year. Must be some good coaching going on.

[da hawaiian]

Arlington Bowie:

George Adams 5'9" 145 Sr
Neal Clark 5'10" 185 Sr
Ananias Hudson 5'9" 160 Sr
BJ Jenkins 5'11" 190 Jr (all district, TX 5A all state sophomore)
Quentin Sargeant 6'0" 185 Sr (3 yr starter,all district)
Delenzi Turner-Green 5'9" 180 Jr
Zyron Walton 5'8" 175 Sr
Brian White 6'0" 170 Sr
Robert Zenon 5'7" 155 Jr
Malcolm Surrell 5'8" 180 Sr (all district)

Bolded were starters last year, others played significant minutes.
Doesn't include JV players of which Andre (forget last name), "the heat seeking missile" will be on the field. Easily the deepest position on the team. Zenon will see time at receiver, he's a Reggie Bush clone.

I know. Most recently our Edwards was from over that way :eek:

[Trojanalum693]

http://prepnation.com/pix/2007/pic400.gif

My updated Trojan secondary looks like this: Still very dynamic so take it for what it's worth

FS - Look for Iliau Moeakiolla to move to the generals role at the back to make room for the bigger and more physcial Paipa at SS/Rover. Also so far I think Edwards and Williams are in the lead for the corner spots

C - Joseph Edwards 6'3" 175lbs
C - Terrell Williams 5'10 155lbs
FS - Iliau Moeikiolla 6'0 180lbs
SS - Sione Paipa 6'1 180lbs

Will be interesting how this unit develops, who ever ends up in the starting role. Edwards is a very intriguing prospect.


Who are these guys? Only heard of Moeikiolla. Secondary may be a little weak early on in the season until these guys get some experience. Did some of these guys except Moeikiolla see any playing time on varsity last year?

[TrinityTrojan80]

Who are these guys? Only heard of Moeikiolla. Secondary may be a little weak early on in the season until these guys get some experience. Did some of these guys except Moeikiolla see any playing time on varsity last year?

I expect the secondary to be a pleasant surprise next year!

[da hawaiian]

I expect the secondary to be a pleasant surprise next year!

If we can find both size and physicality, speed is a given, to play those corner spots - I'll be over the moon.

[worster70]

Coppell returns both corners (both 1st team all distr selections) will need to replace safeties...several good ones in pipeline. OLBs also return ...could be stout unit.

[Trojanalum693]

Check out this video of the Trinity DB's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SkqspciXwQ

[mojosoundwave]

This has to be Permians biggest ?, as far as I know nobody returns with any real varsity experience. I'm glad we have spring practice coming along with the Draft, that might get me to mini-camps. :yes: