No respect for SLC nationally!

[Mr_Lucci]

I just thought I would bring it to the SLC fans attention as to what is being said on a National forum.

http://texashsfootball.com/board/index.php?showtopic=24100&st=0

[slorch]

After reading that I would suppose y'all could use your "***** envy" response or you could look at the facts.

Carrol didn't even like leaving the metroplex area last year to play LP, much less go to CA, OH, or Fla. The game in Floyd Casey against LP in '04 was their last major road challenge, and the trip down I35 ain't exactly daunting as far as travel goes, even in comparison with some schools' district travel schedule.

Evangel lost alot of their talent when La dropped them down in classification.

The posters on there want to look at Tyler Lee last year as being as great as they were in 04, when in reality they were an average 5a team last year.
I say SLC, SV, ET, LP, NS, and Katy could all compete with anybody year to year. i don't believe the Ohio school got the best of Texas last year.

I believe SLC right now is the best of the best, but in order to gain the respect they seek, they must venture away from Tarrant county( and the rest of the Metroplex.) On one hand I agree that they are the most dominant program we have seen in texas 5A in a while, the out-of-state folks have the right to question that dominance.
In my x's and o's mind, i think SLC would have beaten anyone last year with the talent and coaching they had. Until there are games played on the field, all you have is blind allegiance and/ or doubt.

[Drake]

Everyone was concerned that the amending of UIL rules to allow the Jesuit schools in would change the face of Texas HS football... Anyone concerned that this sort of thing will do the same? Once SLC appears a few times on national TV, don't you think even MORE talented kids will find their way there to play for that program?

[drgnbkr]

Everyone was concerned that the amending of UIL rules to allow the Jesuit schools in would change the face of Texas HS football... Anyone concerned that this sort of thing will do the same? Once SLC appears a few times on national TV, don't you think even MORE talented kids will find their way there to play for that program?

I'm sure you know your post looks a little silly, you act like there are dorms in Southlake and the kids can just move in an start playing..just does'nt work out that way as everyone knows..but, like the liberals atacks on Bush, you can just keep jabbing, with non-sensical views..

[1footballnut]

Let me start this out by saying I'm not a Carroll hater nor am I a Trinity lover. I think sometimes people forget we are talking abouth high school teams here. To get any attention nationally is a big deal. Carroll is going to play a big game on national tv against Evangel...but if you wanted the made for tv game that would have 30,000 fans in Texas stadium then why not have the Kickoff Classic against Trinity then start looking for respect nationally. It would be the beauty vs the beast I would pay money to see that.

[Drake]

I'm sure you know your post looks a little silly, you act like there are dorms in Southlake and the kids can just move in an start playing..just does'nt work out that way as everyone knows..but, like the liberals atacks on Bush, you can just keep jabbing, with non-sensical views..Not at all… Was not making assumptions or accusations… Just wondering and trying to provoke thought about it… I didn't think it was nonsensical…

Assuming that a state championship is everyone’s ultimate goal, why would Southlake schedule out of state powerhouses for their non-district foes? Most often things like this are done for revenue or exposure. Since a HS team probably won’t see TV revenues, I’m guessing it’s for exposure. Who benefits from the exposure and does it give SLC an advantage? In the past, playing on TV has been restricted… It was restricted for SOME reason… Just mining for thoughts, not defensiveness…

By the way, I agree that its wrong for people that disagree with another's opinion to start ridiculing them or dismissing their notions... Like calling them silly or non-sensical...

[Favpack]

I would never accuse either coach of ducking one another - but it is absolutely absurd for SLC and Trinity to not play each other. For crying out loud - they're 8 minutes apart. I have utmost respect for the two coaches - but it's pretty absurd really to play a team in California but not play the national power around the corner from you. I guess we could say the same thing about Houston schools as well. Imagine if Lufkin never played Longview or Lee - folks would eventually start thinking one was ducking the other.

[yankee]

Everyone was concerned that the amending of UIL rules to allow the Jesuit schools in would change the face of Texas HS football... Anyone concerned that this sort of thing will do the same? Once SLC appears a few times on national TV, don't you think even MORE talented kids will find their way there to play for that program?
i believe thats called an assumption. or an accusation without coming out and actually saying it.

[dragons08]

After reading that I would suppose y'all could use your "***** envy" response or you could look at the facts.

Carrol didn't even like leaving the metroplex area last year to play LP, much less go to CA, OH, or Fla. The game in Floyd Casey against LP in '04 was their last major road challenge, and the trip down I35 ain't exactly daunting as far as travel goes, even in comparison with some schools' district travel schedule.

Evangel lost alot of their talent when La dropped them down in classification.

The posters on there want to look at Tyler Lee last year as being as great as they were in 04, when in reality they were an average 5a team last year.
I say SLC, SV, ET, LP, NS, and Katy could all compete with anybody year to year. i don't believe the Ohio school got the best of Texas last year.

I believe SLC right now is the best of the best, but in order to gain the respect they seek, they must venture away from Tarrant county( and the rest of the Metroplex.) On one hand I agree that they are the most dominant program we have seen in texas 5A in a while, the out-of-state folks have the right to question that dominance.
In my x's and o's mind, i think SLC would have beaten anyone last year with the talent and coaching they had. Until there are games played on the field, all you have is blind allegiance and/ or doubt.
hmm i belive we travled out to SFA to play lufkin last year..

[dragons08]

Everyone was concerned that the amending of UIL rules to allow the Jesuit schools in would change the face of Texas HS football... Anyone concerned that this sort of thing will do the same? Once SLC appears a few times on national TV, don't you think even MORE talented kids will find their way there to play for that program?
weve already had a few telivised games..

[slorch]

hmm i belive we travled out to SFA to play lufkin last year..
yes, and y'all were *****ing the whole time( until the final gun) but you did not travel well for even a state semifinal game

[dragons08]

yes, and y'all were *****ing the whole time( until the final gun) but you did not travel well for even a state semifinal game
yes, but you said 'last major road challenge'

so your aruging to diffrent things

i dont recall *****ing one time about it..i belive MOST of the dragon fans on here, were telling the ones that were complaning to just shut up and handle it

[Drake]

i believe thats called an assumption. or an accusation without coming out and actually saying it.Yankee... That was a question to provoke consideration... I was curious to what people thought... That's why it ended in a question mark...

[slorch]

yes, but you said 'last major road challenge'

so your aruging to diffrent things

i dont recall *****ing one time about it..i belive MOST of the dragon fans on here, were telling the ones that were complaning to just shut up and handle it
You might be right, it's a moot point now. i do remember getting some major sermons on what Outlaw owed texas football fans.

My point is, that SLC hasn't exactly proven itself on the road, in fact wasn't their last loss in Houston?
I want to emphasize I am taking NOTHING away from the last 3 years. can you tell me SLCs big wins on the road( outside DFW metro area?) i already mentioned the win over LP at Floyd Casey in 2004.

[SLC fan]

Games outside the DFW area the last four years:

1) vs. Lufkin -- in Nacogdoches -- 2005 semifinals
2) vs. Abilene -- in Waco -- 2005 3rd round
3) vs. Midland Lee -- in Abilene -- 2005
4) vs. Lufkin -- in Waco -- 2004 semifinals
5) vs. Midland Lee -- in San Antonio -- 2004
6) vs. Katy -- in San Antonio -- 2003 finals
7) vs. Lubbock Mnterey -- in Lubbock -- 2003 3rd round
8) vs. Smithson Valley -- in San Antonio -- 2002 finals
9) vs. Lufkin -- in Waco -- 2002 semifinals
10) vs. Abilene Cooper -- in Abilene -- 2002 3rd round

They've had their share of road games.

The fact that SLC travels less than some really doesn't detract from their accomplishments. After all, SLC's opponents don't have to travel far either. It's not like SLC has an unfair advantage when they play teams like Plano, Allen, Irving, etc. A team like Lufkin may have to travel farther, but so do their opponents. The same goes for regular season games. Lufkin has to travel long distances for road games, but so do their opponents when they play at Lufkin. SLC doesn't have that advantage for home games, just as they don't have the disadvantage of having to travel far for road games.

[drgnbkr]

Most of the good teams this season were here in the Metroplex. Hence the sweep of 5-A and 4-A by DFW teams...don't have to travel much when they are in your backyard....The Nacogdoches game has been kicked around enough on this forum..I was there early and hopefully we'll have a better venue next time it comes up...The Dragons have proven over the past 20 years that they travel as well as anyone...

[slorch]

Games outside the DFW area the last four years:

1) vs. Lufkin -- in Nacogdoches -- 2005 semifinals
2) vs. Abilene -- in Waco -- 2005 3rd round
3) vs. Midland Lee -- in Abilene -- 2005
4) vs. Lufkin -- in Waco -- 2004 semifinals
5) vs. Midland Lee -- in San Antonio -- 2004
6) vs. Katy -- in San Antonio -- 2003 finals
7) vs. Lubbock Mnterey -- in Lubbock -- 2003 3rd round
8) vs. Smithson Valley -- in San Antonio -- 2002 finals
9) vs. Lufkin -- in Waco -- 2002 semifinals
10) vs. Abilene Cooper -- in Abilene -- 2002 3rd round

They've had their share of road games.

The fact that SLC travels less than some really doesn't detract from their accomplishments. After all, SLC's opponents don't have to travel far either. It's not like SLC has an unfair advantage when they play teams like Plano, Allen, Irving, etc. A team like Lufkin may have to travel farther, but so do their opponents. The same goes for regular season games. Lufkin has to travel long distances for road games, but so do their opponents when they play at Lufkin. SLC doesn't have that advantage for home games, just as they don't have the disadvantage of having to travel far for road games.
thanks for the info. wow Monterrey in Lubbock, I forgot about that one...
you're right, perception doesn't really equal reality. i will not bring it up again.

[stevefoxsc]

personally it just seems like another attempt for ohio to bash texas football they'll get there wish one day and brother when the day comes wrather it be slc long view judson arlington lamar or who ever i hope they give them a *** whippin to remeber

[SLC fan]

I forgot to mention Sherman and Denison, who they played in the 2002 and 2003 seasons. Those aren't exactly short trips.

[SLCDad]

Let me be frank:

Some of the posters here make me laugh. SLC has dominated 5A for 4 years. They avenged their only loss with a clear and solid victory over a great Katy team last year. They were pretty much concensous national #1 for two years in a row. They had two of the toughest roads ever to the state title in 2004 and 2005. Since 2004 they beat ALL comers and were clearly the best team in every game they played. They would have beat Trinity soundly which had a team similar in caliber to Plano, Lufkin or Katy.

I find it amazing that posters here make feeble attempts to find a weakness with SLC football in 2004 and 2005. SLC has nothing to prove; they did all of their talking on the football field.

There were naysayers all season long in 2005 and now that the seats in Texas Stadium have cooled off the naysayers have returned.

2006 is a whole new year and we'll see what happens, but 2005 was pretty much perfect by any standard. NO team can compare to what the Dragons did.

[slorch]

I am not frank, i am slorch

All heil SLC. I love this ride . it is so fun when people can't even take constructive criticism. I gave feedback on what the posters on the other site might have been thinking. All of the sudden I'm a naysayer.(laughing)
I would think something as dominant as SLC's program could speak for itself, but SLC dad is here to save the day.

\Get over yourself, or provide some facts like your fellow Dragon did. I conceded the fact that the perception that they didn't travel much had no foundation, but you can't find yourself to read those lines. The bottom line is dragon fans did raise hell about going into the woods to play Lp, and then they didn't even bother to show up. The team showed up and answered the bell in a big way.
if the win was so convincing in 2004 at waco over LP, then why is the second quarter the only one that you outscored Lufkin 21-7, and won the game by 7. I really don't give a rip if you feel slighted. if you want to have a real conversation then bring something to the table besides your narrowminded opinions. I'll remember to get on the kneeler anytime I think of SLC.

[drgnbkr]

I am not frank, i am slorch

All heil SLC. I love this ride . it is so fun when people can't even take constructive criticism. I gave feedback on what the posters on the other site might have been thinking. All of the sudden I'm a naysayer.(laughing)
I would think something as dominant as SLC's program could speak for itself, but SLC dad is here to save the day.

\Get over yourself, or provide some facts like your fellow Dragon did. I conceded the fact that the perception that they didn't travel much had no foundation, but you can't find yourself to read those lines. The bottom line is dragon fans did raise hell about going into the woods to play Lp, and then they didn't even bother to show up. The team showed up and answered the bell in a big way.
if the win was so convincing in 2004 at waco over LP, then why is the second quarter the only one that you outscored Lufkin 21-7, and won the game by 7. I really don't give a rip if you feel slighted. if you want to have a real conversation then bring something to the table besides your narrowminded opinions. I'll remember to get on the kneeler anytime I think of SLC.

When your 63 & 1, do you really think anyone feels slighted? We are blessed to have been able to be fans for such a great ride...Lufkin, Katy, Smithson Valley, Plano, Abilene...they've all felt the wrath of the Dragons...Slighted? Get real....Ohio? California? They wish they had the chance to get it on with the Carroll Dragons...Nobody in the country has the luxury of looking in the rear view mirror & seeing the quality of opposition that the Dragons have faced..When you win a 5-A title in Texas, it means something....As I've said on here many times, beat the Dragons..& you are a member of a very select club & you deserve to talk...otherwise...get ready for basketball!

[VB Pack Fan]

Correct me if I,m wrong, but the 2005 season is over and done, why don,t we look to the 2006 season and talk about that.:confused:

[dragons08]

Correct me if I,m wrong, but the 2005 season is over and done, why don,t we look to the 2006 season and talk about that.:confused:
some people refuse to let go it appears

[dragons08]

I am not frank, i am slorch

slcdad said "let me be frank" so he was being frank, he wasnt calling you frank

[VB Pack Fan]

Yes let talk about our track teams or baseball teams for now. I said back in Oct that no one would beat SLC . Football for 2006 is still a ways off really.

[dragons08]

Yes let talk about our track teams or baseball teams for now. I said back in Oct that no one would beat SLC . Football for 2006 is still a ways off really.
or we can talk about soccer?

anyways..to add a little to the 'topic of this thread' (yea sounds weird coming from me)..but anyways, it serves no point to go back and trash talk a team, that refused to lose, and a team that had insane talent..i dont give a crap what other people say..we have the shirts, the rings, the trophy's to prove how good that team was, and noone can take that away from SLC football players and fans

[VB Pack Fan]

Yeah soccer works for me, Lufkin team is doing really well this as always.....I think:)

[slorch]

slcdad said "let me be frank" so he was being frank, he wasnt calling you frank

I guess sarcasm isn't your strong suit.

I didn't start the thread.

I simply commented on it. Gained some understanding of SLC's road record, and that's that.

I won't tolerate the fans that say, "we're the best so shut up," after the thread said they were dissed.

If you don't want to talk about it, don't.

[dragons08]

Yeah soccer works for me, Lufkin team is doing really well this as always.....I think:)
carroll is doing well to i belivie..i was talking to their goalkeeper last week, and he said they were doing pretty good..i talked to dragoncrew06 (who also plays soccer) and he told me they are doing good, so obviously their doing good

[slorch]

After reading that I would suppose y'all could use your "***** envy" response or you could look at the facts.

Carrol didn't even like leaving the metroplex area last year to play LP, much less go to CA, OH, or Fla. The game in Floyd Casey against LP in '04 was their last major road challenge, and the trip down I35 ain't exactly daunting as far as travel goes, even in comparison with some schools' district travel schedule.

Evangel lost alot of their talent when La dropped them down in classification.

The posters on there want to look at Tyler Lee last year as being as great as they were in 04, when in reality they were an average 5a team last year.
I say SLC, SV, ET, LP, NS, and Katy could all compete with anybody year to year. i don't believe the Ohio school got the best of Texas last year.

I believe SLC right now is the best of the best, but in order to gain the respect they seek, they must venture away from Tarrant county( and the rest of the Metroplex.) On one hand I agree that they are the most dominant program we have seen in texas 5A in a while, the out-of-state folks have the right to question that dominance.
In my x's and o's mind, i think SLC would have beaten anyone last year with the talent and coaching they had. Until there are games played on the field, all you have is blind allegiance and/ or doubt.

Quit picking things out of context...
read the last paragraph...again

[dragons08]

I guess sarcasm isn't your strong suit.

I didn't start the thread.

I simply commented on it. Gained some understanding of SLC's road record, and that's that.

I won't tolerate the fans that say, "we're the best so shut up," after the thread said they were dissed.

If you don't want to talk about it, don't.
okay..
1) sarcasm is my strong suit..yankeeman, ladypack34..both can vouch for me, that i am sarcastic all the time..i was being a 'jokster' about the frank thing..so maybe you should get your sarcasm checked

2) i know you didnt start the thread

3)i understand

4)well considering were 63-1..i dont need to say' were the best so shut up' i just say look at the record, or come by Carroll Senior HS and look at the football team's list of accomplishments

5)i'll talk about it, if someone is going to talk crap about carroll, i'll 'fight' it

[dragons08]

Quit picking things out of context...
read the last paragraph...again
but it almost seems as if you contradict yourself in there..but hell im just a soph, i guess i dont know as much as you right?

[slorch]

I didn't say anything about your age...

I have posted respectfully on here regarding this topic.

Maybe you're holding it against me that I'm an old guy( 35):D

I'm all for a good conversation, and I did learn something about the road record, but I didn't see anybody coming on here, as I probably would have, and say," who needs their respect?" we beat every team we faced for 3 years.

I get it, i was simply trying to say what a non-Dragon sees. I'm not jealous, and I have given plenty of props, and then a couple people act as if, "How dare you say anything critical" if everyone just wants to hear how great the"Emperor's New Clothes" are, then they probably should stay on an exclusive SLC board.

Once again, I didn't even know your age, and wouldn't have said anything about it anyway. By the same token, don't use it as a crutch. You make alot of great posts on here. Keep it up!

[dragons08]

, don't use it as a crutch. !
that thought inspires me..i can say even more stupid stuff and get away with it..

yeah, i guess your right.. i guess i was just taking out my 'anger' on those who critize ones acomplishments..a misunderstanding my bad

[Firebird]

For Pete's sake.....

I cannot believe ya'll are pointing to some trash talk on a national HS message board and claiming that "SLC gets no respect nationally." That is like saying "UT gets no respect nationally" and pointing to the forums on TexAgs. Of course the Fla, Ohio, etc folks are gonna talk trash, but lets get somethings straight...

1. SLC was voted the mythical national championship 2 years in a row by US Today and other prep polls. They will undoubtebly be in the top 3 to kick off next season.

2. Your qb recieved scholarship offers from D1A schools BEFORE he ever started a varsity game, including an offer from Tech, a good Big 12 program. I know he had great camps, but the reputation of SLC and the quality of players out their had at least as much influence. Plus, he wouldn't have been invited to those camps if he wasn't at SLC to begin with.

3. College coaches are falling all over themselves to recruit other SLC starters.

Anyone who knows anything about prep ball is falling all overthemselves to give props to SLC... that is as it should be. SLC is a fantastic program, and is acknowledged to be the best in the USA. But this post reminds me of listening to the Patriots talking about "lack of respect" before their 3rd Super Bowl win. Just for once, I would like to hear a team say

"We know dang well we are the best, and we are going to go our their and uphold our well-earned reputation".

If that ain't enough to get you fired up, I don't know what is.

[drgnbkr]

For Pete's sake.....

I cannot believe ya'll are pointing to some trash talk on a national HS message board and claiming that "SLC gets no respect nationally." That is like saying "UT gets no respect nationally" and pointing to the forums on TexAgs. Of course the Fla, Ohio, etc folks are gonna talk trash, but lets get somethings straight...

1. SLC was voted the mythical national championship 2 years in a row by US Today and other prep polls. They will undoubtebly be in the top 3 to kick off next season.

2. Your qb recieved scholarship offers from D1A schools BEFORE he ever started a varsity game, including an offer from Tech, a good Big 12 program. I know he had great camps, but the reputation of SLC and the quality of players out their had at least as much influence. Plus, he wouldn't have been invited to those camps if he wasn't at SLC to begin with.

3. College coaches are falling all over themselves to recruit other SLC starters.

Anyone who knows anything about prep ball is falling all overthemselves to give props to SLC... that is as it should be. SLC is a fantastic program, and is acknowledged to be the best in the USA. But this post reminds me of listening to the Patriots talking about "lack of respect" before their 3rd Super Bowl win. Just for once, I would like to hear a team say

"We know dang well we are the best, and we are going to go our their and uphold our well-earned reputation".

If that ain't enough to get you fired up, I don't know what is.

Carroll has one slogan...."Protect the Tradition"...enough said..

[dragons08]

Carroll has one slogan...."Protect the Tradition"...enough said..
they even use that slogan when trying to pass bonds...

did any other people find that weird, when it said that on the "Vote Yes" things?

[Texasfrog]

I just thought I would bring it to the SLC fans attention as to what is being said on a National forum.

http://texashsfootball.com/board/index.php?showtopic=24100&st=0

Many of the people around the nation that follow HS football have some kind of internal "hatred" for Texas HS football. I think most of it is just plain "envy" of Texas HS football and how it is down in Texas.

You can look around at some of the "head to head" Texas vs ??? games and clearly see that Texas HS football is pretty much #1 across the nation.

SLC being top dog for the last few years clearly shows that SLC is one of the best and probably the "BEST" team in the country the last few years.

OHIO..... well Colerain was one of the top #4 teams in OHIO and lost to the top dog "St Xavier" twice by like 5 pts. So, a very average Texas team from 2005 Tyler Lee travels to Ohio and plays pretty much toe to toe with Colerain in OHIO. Ya, Colerain beat them, but Tyler Lee played with them very tough.
Colerain was probably #3 in OHIO and Tyler Lee was about #40th in Texas... so go figure huh !!!

SLC would of shut down Colerain running game and passed for about 400 yds on them. If Colerain was like anyone in Texas last season, I would put them on par with Longview...

Hollywood Chaminade came to Texas and played Tyler Lee pretty much heads up. Hollywood Chaminade pretty much dominated everyone they played in Florida (except Booker T. Washington) and Chamindae won the Florida State Title and could of played with anyone in Florida. Chaminade was a top #5 Florida team.

Like I've said last year and I'll say it this year with even more confidence. Texas is the #1 HS football state as far as overall HS talent, depth of talented teams and overall competition level depth.:)

[Eagle81]

I'll start off saying that I love the inter-state games. But in defense of SLC and their not playing any, why should they? They play some the best teams in the country right here in Texas. No other state has that priviledge. That's why you see DeLasalle play out of state so much. There's only hand full of Cali teams that can compete. Once SLC reaches the third round their games start to become a real challenge. As far as them not leaving the metroplex, take a look at the top ten teams each year. Half of them are in the metroplex. There's no need to travel. I admire them taking the games with ECA and that cali team. But for any Ohio team to suggest that SLC would be dodging them is absolutely ridiculous. Their second best team struggled to beat a team that didn't even make the playoffs this year. Ohio needs to go crawl back under a rock and let those two teams at the top of thier heap continue to dominate the rest of them and have that false since of security that they are a premier team in the nation. Heck if they want a challenge we'll send them some El Paso teams to play.

I say SLC has nothing left to prove to anyone. Good luck the next two years and if you get the chance to run the score up on either one of the teams, wear it out.

[Sakatha]

they even use that slogan when trying to pass bonds...

did any other people find that weird, when it said that on the "Vote Yes" things?

Not so much, and the reason is that CISD has a long standing tradition of excellence in more than just football...

That bond package didn't seem to be athletically aimed for the most part...

~DnM

[drgnbkr]

Not so much, and the reason is that CISD has a long standing tradition of excellence in more than just football...

That bond package didn't seem to be athletically aimed for the most part...

~DnM

Yeah, the one that failed #2 was to provide the teachers with laptops and other aids...

[RidgePride]

I'll start off saying that I love the inter-state games. But in defense of SLC and their not playing any, why should they? They play some the best teams in the country right here in Texas. No other state has that priviledge. That's why you see DeLasalle play out of state so much. There's only hand full of Cali teams that can compete. Once SLC reaches the third round their games start to become a real challenge. As far as them not leaving the metroplex, take a look at the top ten teams each year. Half of them are in the metroplex. There's no need to travel. I admire them taking the games with ECA and that cali team. But for any Ohio team to suggest that SLC would be dodging them is absolutely ridiculous. Their second best team struggled to beat a team that didn't even make the playoffs this year. Ohio needs to go crawl back under a rock and let those two teams at the top of thier heap continue to dominate the rest of them and have that false since of security that they are a premier team in the nation. Heck if they want a challenge we'll send them some El Paso teams to play.

I say SLC has nothing left to prove to anyone. Good luck the next two years and if you get the chance to run the score up on either one of the teams, wear it out.

As long as SLC is on top, there will always be something to prove.
If they win it all next year, everyone will be talking about them doing it again - again - and again.

[Pearland1]

who cares!!!

[drgnbkr]

who cares!!!

Um...like 3 pages of posters...?....:rolleyes:

[dragonsdaddy]

"but in order to gain the respect they seek"-slorch

i really don't think that is very high on the list for dodge. otherwise he would never have put the only in my backyard stipulation to these games. he stated he has trouble filling a non-district sked because many teams aren't wanting to take up the gauntlet(sloppell). there may be a money situation involved, as much as anything. all the respect slc and dodge seek has been garnered after a mid december tv game 3 out of 4 seasons. being able to travel across the continent and play well won't help slc or any other texas teams, unless ep starts winning and playing well. this game is convenient and hopefully preparatory for another ring chase.

[Pearland1]

when are going to built more high school in south lake? how many kids in the school at this moment 10,000?

[PackAttack2005]

Well, if it will make everyone feel any better, the Lufkin folks respect the Southlake program. You have a great program and coaching staff in place to continue your winning tradition at least a couple more years for sure.

I think your 2006 team may have a few bumps in the road early, but will be a well oiled machine by playoff time.

[mojo61]

who cares!!!

Everyone (almost everyone) is interested in the top team that wins the big one. Since SLC has won the big one sev. times recently, most teams will be watching SLC to see how they do ea. yr.

I imagine that alot of teams would like to play SLC in the pre-dist. season & that SLC would not have trouble filling a play-date just because many teams are always anxious to see how they stack up against the best. The best always have a target painted on their backs, too--everybody's out to get them.

[dragonsdaddy]

when are going to built more high school in south lake? how many kids in the school at this moment 10,000?
unlike perarland where several new hs will soon be needed, slc will always be a small to mid-sized 5a school. we are about 2400 now, and should max out at 2500. there will never be a need for another hs.

[slorch]

What's the deal with Coppell? a few years ago they were up and comers, now they're the Dodgers(literally?) I figured that would be a great rivalry, but they're not carrying their end of the bargain. I was disappointed when the alignment had them in a different dist.

by the way i went to elementary school with their coach. He was a nice kid. His dad coached my older brother at Windthorst in the late 70's. They moved after that, so i really don't know him, now.

[dragonsdaddy]

What's the deal with Coppell? a few years ago they were up and comers, now they're the Dodgers(literally?) I figured that would be a great rivalry, but they're not carrying their end of the bargain. I was disappointed when the alignment had them in a different dist.

by the way i went to elementary school with their coach. He was a nice kid. His dad coached my older brother at Windthorst in the late 70's. They moved after that, so i really don't know him, now.
40 years of tradition ends this year, as coppell decided to go elsewhere for non-district competition.

[drgnbkr]

when are going to built more high school in south lake? how many kids in the school at this moment 10,000?

We are the 4th largest school in our district...see my sig below..:cool:

[dragons08]

when are going to built more high school in south lake? how many kids in the school at this moment 10,000?
we have 2 campuses..we dont need another hs..

i think we have is it..2500-3000 ish?

[slorch]

y'all have barely been in 5A. It's not like you have 5000 kids like Plano or the Woodlands did. i don't think there will be another High school there for awhile, but look at Frisco and Lewisville...

[dragons08]

y'all have barely been in 5A. It's not like you have 5000 kids like Plano or the Woodlands did.
who said we did?

[slorch]

one of the other posters asked if y'all had 10k students...

[dragons08]

one of the other posters asked if y'all had 10k students...
oh yeah..the way you responded you made it sound like somebody said it like cold hard facts..simple misunderstanding..how many people in CISD (just curious) for any people that know

[CCHS77]

oh yeah..the way you responded you made it sound like somebody said it like cold hard facts..simple misunderstanding..how many people in CISD (just curious) for any people that know


From the CISD web page;

Carroll ISD is a K-12 public school system located in the heart of the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex. The 21-square-mile district consists of 11 schools serving more than 7,600 students and nearly 1,000 employees.


Carroll turned in 2408 for 9-12 in this latest round of realignment.

Without some MAJOR difference in how CISD is populated with students, there is NO reason for two high schools. Sports fans, within CISD, have been accused of wanting to maintain one high school for the advantages that can have in sports. But those within Southlake (and out side) seem to have their own agenda for promoting two 9-12 high schools. Bottom line, growth is not continuing (like the late 90s) and we can’t afford two (separate) aprox. 1300 student HS’s!

[drgnbkr]

From the CISD web page;

Carroll ISD is a K-12 public school system located in the heart of the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex. The 21-square-mile district consists of 11 schools serving more than 7,600 students and nearly 1,000 employees.


Carroll turned in 2408 for 9-12 in this latest round of realignment.

Without some MAJOR difference in how CISD is populated with students, there is NO reason for two high schools. Sports fans, within CISD, have been accused of wanting to maintain one high school for the advantages that can have in sports. But those within Southlake (and out side) seem to have their own agenda for promoting two 9-12 high schools. Bottom line, growth is not continuing (like the late 90s) and we can’t afford two (separate) aprox. 1300 student HS’s!

Our entire district (11 campuses 7,600 students) has 3,000 fewer students than Plano & Plano East High Schools (11,000) alone!

[SLCDad]

I am not frank, i am slorch

All heil SLC. I love this ride . it is so fun when people can't even take constructive criticism. I gave feedback on what the posters on the other site might have been thinking. All of the sudden I'm a naysayer.(laughing)
I would think something as dominant as SLC's program could speak for itself, but SLC dad is here to save the day.

\Get over yourself, or provide some facts like your fellow Dragon did. I conceded the fact that the perception that they didn't travel much had no foundation, but you can't find yourself to read those lines. The bottom line is dragon fans did raise hell about going into the woods to play Lp, and then they didn't even bother to show up. The team showed up and answered the bell in a big way.
if the win was so convincing in 2004 at waco over LP, then why is the second quarter the only one that you outscored Lufkin 21-7, and won the game by 7. I really don't give a rip if you feel slighted. if you want to have a real conversation then bring something to the table besides your narrowminded opinions. I'll remember to get on the kneeler anytime I think of SLC.
I've been gone a couple of days but I guess I'd better answer this.

The bottom line is that your advice "to get the respect they deserve nationally" is 100% total stupidity. Why? First, the national respect has come in droves. It's hard to imagine the national respect getting much higher. Second, Coach Dodge doesn't share your view about playing foolish circus games across the country (thank goodness).

[drgnbkr]

I've been gone a couple of days but I guess I'd better answer this.

The bottom line is that your advice "to get the respect they deserve nationally" is 100% total stupidity. Why? First, the national respect has come in droves. It's hard to imagine the national respect getting much higher. Second, Coach Dodge doesn't share your view about playing foolish circus games across the country (thank goodness).

Dad, we have all already answered his confusing post, but yours is concise and correct. With success comes the haters...Carroll could'nt have a higher National profile with back to back mythical titles and more importantly the record four straight state finals with the 3 titles in the toughest state for HS Football...

[KTBandKid]

I just thought I would bring it to the SLC fans attention as to what is being said on a National forum.

http://texashsfootball.com/board/index.php?showtopic=24100&st=0

Well now you know how Katy feels...and our disrespect is coming for our area...besides some of the things said were not that bad.

[slorch]

I've been gone a couple of days but I guess I'd better answer this.

The bottom line is that your advice "to get the respect they deserve nationally" is 100% total stupidity. Why? First, the national respect has come in droves. It's hard to imagine the national respect getting much higher. Second, Coach Dodge doesn't share your view about playing foolish circus games across the country (thank goodness).
SLC fans are the ones looking at another board and seeing what someone else is saying, Thus, National, perspective.
evidently it does matter, judging fromthe tone of your post.

I really don't give a damn, but my post wasn't stupid, and I don't appreciate your blanket response to anything you perceive as " anti-slc." you have been consistently hostile and your future responses will be considered in the same regard as this one.

GET OVER YOURSELF, I'm not here to worship. Feedback is a gift, that you choose to disregard. Your choice, that's fine. if you have the patience, you could read through the thread and see that I am objective in my approach, is it too much to ask for you to be as well?

[dragons08]

SLC fans are the ones looking at another board and seeing what someone else is saying
mr rucci is from San Antonio, not Southlake..

[slorch]

mr rucci is from San Antonio, not Southlake..
so nobody on here used his link except me?

thanks for the info though...

[dragons08]

so nobody on here used his link except me?

thanks for the info though...
i read it..and it went in one eye, out the other..i can care less what some guy in ohio says..

[slorch]

i read it..and it went in one eye, out the other..i can care less what some guy in ohio says..
that must be a neat trick.

You sure are posting on this thread alot if you don't care...

[dragons08]

that must be a neat trick.

You sure are posting on this thread alot if you don't care...
its one of the only threads 'hopin'

[slorch]

I guess nobody cares then...LOL.

SLC has everybody's attention. It is amazing how defensive a few of the Dragon fans get though.
You would think results like theirs would breed a little confidence, not insecurity.

[DrEdward]

I guess nobody cares then...LOL.

SLC has everybody's attention. It is amazing how defensive a few of the Dragon fans get though.
You would think results like theirs would breed a little confidence, not insecurity.


Why are you so obsessed over this one? Seems to me that Carroll has received a rather large amount of respect nationwide, based on the observation that the team has been on national tv two years in a row and been voted the MNC of high school football by folks from all over the US during that same period. Sure most Dragon fans like to know that their teams and school have received such recognition across the country and are rightly proud of such accomplishments, but most of us are far more interested in how we do within Texas and in academics than this other stuff.

[slorch]

Why are you so obsessed over this one? Seems to me that Carroll has received a rather large amount of respect nationwide, based on the observation that the team has been on national tv two years in a row and been voted the MNC of high school football by folks from all over the US during that same period. Sure most Dragon fans like to know that their teams and school have received such recognition across the country and are rightly proud of such accomplishments, but most of us are far more interested in how we do within Texas and in academics than this other stuff.

I am not obsessed with this topic, just the reaction over anything critical of one's team.

It is only a few, but as D08 told me in the past, if someone's gonna talk my way, I'm gonna answer.

I had a good conversation( learned something because of good posters) on this thread about SLCs road record and a few other details and then SLCDAD comes on and says my statement is "100% total stupidity" I guess i should shut 'er down because I didn't get his endorsement, or I could respond as I did, and defend my points.

I welcome any good, constructive discussion, and that implies at least two parties giving their points of view, not one.

I am not obsessed, just interested.

[drgnbkr]

Slorch, the problem is you keep saying the same things over and over...there is no one on here defending the Dragons to you...they've taken care of that over the last 20 years just fine..to call our coach St. Dodge...you probably need to learn a bit before you start slinging that.....any kid that has played for Dodge would walk through fire for him....

[slorch]

Slorch, the problem is you keep saying the same things over and over...there is no one on here defending the Dragons to you...they've taken care of that over the last 20 years just fine..to call our coach St. Dodge...you probably need to learn a bit before you start slinging that.....any kid that has played for Dodge would walk through fire for him....
usually being a saint has a connotation of sacrifice, commitment, and keeping one's eyes on the prize...they refer to Bobby Bowden this way too. Quit seeing someone else's point of view as always being wrong.

as for saying the same thing over and over, come on.

I see some wanting to actually discuss the nuances and happenings in high school football. Read my posts, where am I badmouthing the dragons?

others see anything remotely objective as being critical. It is laughable at best to give these folks credence.All I get from these people is, "we're the best, like it or shut the f$%# up." that ain't happening my friend, (not implying that you have acted this way) I am suggesting that a few need to go to "I love SLC" board and stay there. they have no interest in having a real discussion. Look at the title of the thread. I make an observation, and I am a naysayer. It's not my fault some don't want to read my entire posts. They just look for anything critical and run with it.

[dragonsdaddy]

usually being a saint has a connotation of sacrifice, commitment, and keeping one's eyes on the prize...they refer to Bobby Bowden this way too. Quit seeing someone else's point of view as always being wrong.

as for saying the same thing over and over, come on.

I see some wanting to actually discuss the nuances and happenings in high school football. Read my posts, where am I badmouthing the dragons?

others see anything remotely objective as being critical. It is laughable at best to give these folks credence.All I get from these people is, "we're the best, like it or shut the f$%# up." that ain't happening my friend, (not implying that you have acted this way) I am suggesting that a few need to go to "I love SLC" board and stay there. they have no interest in having a real discussion. Look at the title of the thread. I make an observation, and I am a naysayer. It's not my fault some don't want to read my entire posts. They just look for anything critical and run with it.
who would you say is responsible for the name of this thread? if memory serves, it is a san antonio resident who has no connection with slc. if that is to be used as a reason to discredit or lambaste slc posters, i guess you are within your rights. this pablum is another reason i hate the national hs polls.

[slorch]

who would you say is responsible for the name of this thread? if memory serves, it is a san antonio resident who has no connection with slc. if that is to be used as a reason to discredit or lambaste slc posters, i guess you are within your rights. this pablum is another reason i hate the national hs polls.


I want to be clear on this, and I will let it go

Some have brought some good conversation and facts to the table(such as the post witht the road playoff wins.) IMO that is what this forum is all about. It changed my opinion, not through intimidation, but through COMMUNICATION!

Others aren't interested in dialogue, but spouting their blind allegiance to their respective school(s) disregarding any reasonable statement that doesn't support their own position. I cannot support their attitude. It lends itself to an atmosphere of intimidation and leads to feelings against others such as those towards an individual who recently lost the privilege to be on this board.

The attitude of some, "I have been gone a few days, I had better address this" is hillarious. It's like, "Daddy's home, now I'm going to rule on you kids' dissagreement" how condescending is that. I'm not going to allow that. It was obvious they were addressing it by even making a post, then they need an introduction to themselves?

Calling my statement "100% total stupidity" was unfounded. I will defend it, and did.

That's enough of my tirade. I will say through my posts I have neither intentionally provoked nor insulted other members. Can you say that for the others?

[dragonsdaddy]

i was addressing your use of the title of this thread as a reason to belittle. ask mr ricci why he has titled it so obtrusively and suggestively(of slc cockiness).

[drgnbkr]

"All bow to the Dragons" "All kneel to Saint Dodge" "Heil to the Dragons" ...you've got some serious envy issues working for you...ease off just a little & pay attention to some of the other programs..you might have some fun..who knows?

[dragons08]

]"All bow to the Dragons" "Alll kneal to Saint Dodge" "Heil to the Dragons" [/B
question..how do you 'kneal'?

[drgnbkr]

question..how do you 'kneal'?

I guess if I could spell..I'd be dam_ near perfect...?:D

[dragons08]

I guess if I could spell..I'd be dam_ near perfect...?:D
cool is an aspect of perfect if im not mistaken :D

[RGVBadBoy]

Just wondering....how much does SLC's OLine average in Weight?!??! ALSO does SLC have Nutritionists or what?!?!? do the Strength and Conditioning Coaches at SLC draw up SPECIAL workouts for EACH position?!??!

[dragons08]

Just wondering....how much does SLC's OLine average in Weight?!??! ALSO does SLC have Nutritionists or what?!?!? do the Strength and Conditioning Coaches at SLC draw up SPECIAL workouts for EACH position?!??!
id imagine they do, probally have personal ones that their parents get them, or something along those lines..i THINK most have personal trainors..ask ddaddy he'll know for sure

[drgnbkr]

Personal trainers? Not likely..maybe some, but a lot do fast twitch & velocity training...the players all lift at 7 AM every morning, and different positions have weight "suggestions".

[dragons08]

Personal trainers? Not likely..maybe some, but a lot do fast twitch & velocity training...the players all lift at 7 AM every morning, and different positions have weight "suggestions".
well by personal trainers, i meant velocity, fast twitch, doesnt performance course count as one as well?

and doesnt a coach give them a weight they have to be at in order to play..like, they say, if you want to play gain 30 lbs or what ever

[drgnbkr]

well by personal trainers, i meant velocity, fast twitch, doesnt performance course count as one as well?

and doesnt a coach give them a weight they have to be at in order to play..like, they say, if you want to play gain 30 lbs or what ever

Performance course is a summer deal for the most part...yeah, you don't want linemen who weigh 150 pounds..:p

[dragons08]

Performance course is a summer deal for the most part...yeah, you don't want linemen who weigh 150 pounds..:p
god, id get trampled..set hike, bam d08 gets nailed..i can take a hit, but cant stop somebody twice my weight

[RGVBadBoy]

Thanks guys, im just wondering...i wanna know what makes SLC SO GOOD...maybe some of our SouthTexas teams can take a page from the Dragon book

Sharylands' OLine has got some decent size, i think they AVERAGE weight is 258lbs...also speed is their too, they jsut need to learn HOW to train for the season....what better program to learn from than SLC

[dragons08]

Thanks guys, im just wondering...i wanna know what makes SLC SO GOOD...maybe some of our SouthTexas teams can take a page from the Dragon book

Sharylands' OLine has got some decent size, i think they AVERAGE weight is 258lbs...also speed is their too, they jsut need to learn HOW to train for the season....what better program to learn from than SLC
what makes slc sooo good..

-parents..in southlake our parents are succesful, so they know what it takes to 'win'..they're a catalyst
-good coaching
-wanting to not let the dragon tradtion down
-moeny does help, it allows for camps, better equip, etc

those are a few contributing factors

[RGVBadBoy]

what makes slc sooo good..

-parents..in southlake our parents are succesful, so they know what it takes to 'win'..they're a catalyst
-good coaching
-wanting to not let the dragon tradtion down
-moeny does help, it allows for camps, better equip, etc

those are a few contributing factors
yeah, i heard that SLC is a pretty affluent community....Sharyland is one of the wealthier communities in the RGV, HOWEVER no where NEAR what SLC is....Parents are pretty supportive here, the Coaching is NO WHERE NEAR what Dodge and Co. are.....and DOWN HEAR, NO ONE has EVER gone to a camp....IMO, we got some GREAT kids, some really fast ones...some really big ones....we got a couple of Div IA prospects....man those Camps would REALLY BENEFIT US!!!!

[dragons08]

yeah, i heard that SLC is a pretty affluent community....Sharyland is one of the wealthier communities in the RGV, HOWEVER no where NEAR what SLC is....Parents are pretty supportive here, the Coaching is NO WHERE NEAR what Dodge and Co. are.....and DOWN HEAR, NO ONE has EVER gone to a camp....IMO, we got some GREAT kids, some really fast ones...some really big ones....we got a couple of Div IA prospects....man those Camps would REALLY BENEFIT US!!!!
yeah, being rich helps, but its not majoritiy of it, which some people make it out to be..if you have support, good coahing, and players who want to play, im pretty sure you'll be good to go

[drgnbkr]

yeah, being rich helps, but its not majoritiy of it, which some people make it out to be..if you have support, good coahing, and players who want to play, im pretty sure you'll be good to go

Last time I checked, football was still a game where you had to knock the snot out of the other guy to be successful...camps help with skilll, coaching creates unity & preaches execution...toughness is developed & you don't win without it

[KT2000]

Thanks guys, im just wondering...i wanna know what makes SLC SO GOOD...maybe some of our SouthTexas teams can take a page from the Dragon book

If you break down their film, you'll find they execute nearly flawlessly and that's a huge part of it in my opinion. They rarely make the big mistake and that's tough for most high school teams to avoid.

We saw it at in the Division II title game in December. Katy had four or five turnovers, and Carroll had one or two.

In the one playoff game Carroll did make numerous errors (Plano), they had to really dig deep to pull out the win.

You can coach technique and scheme until you're blue in the face, but it still comes down to players executing on game day. Carroll's players have been very good at showing up on game day ready to go. Extremely efficient.

Talent helps, coaching helps, resources help and the community helps; however, at the crux of it all is consistent gameday execution. That's how good programs become great, and how the great become legendary.

[drgnbkr]

If you break down their film, you'll find they execute nearly flawlessly and that's a huge part of it in my opinion. They rarely make the big mistake and that's tough for most high school teams to avoid.

We saw it at in the Division II title game in December. Katy had four or five turnovers, and Carroll had one or two.

In the one playoff game Carroll did make numerous errors (Plano), they had to really dig deep to pull out the win.

You can coach technique and scheme until you're blue in the face, but it still comes down to players executing on game day. Carroll's players have been very good at showing up on game day ready to go. Extremely efficient.

Talent helps, coaching helps, resources help and the community helps; however, at the crux of it all is consistent gameday execution. That's how good programs become great, and how the great become legendary.

Carroll executes a very difficult system...I think it takes a lot of very bright kids to execute with the consitency of the Dragons..Coach Dodge provides the reps and the kids are ready to repeat on gameday..

[dragonsdaddy]

If you break down their film, you'll find they execute nearly flawlessly and that's a huge part of it in my opinion. They rarely make the big mistake and that's tough for most high school teams to avoid.

We saw it at in the Division II title game in December. Katy had four or five turnovers, and Carroll had one or two.

In the one playoff game Carroll did make numerous errors (Plano), they had to really dig deep to pull out the win.

You can coach technique and scheme until you're blue in the face, but it still comes down to players executing on game day. Carroll's players have been very good at showing up on game day ready to go. Extremely efficient.

Talent helps, coaching helps, resources help and the community helps; however, at the crux of it all is consistent gameday execution. That's how good programs become great, and how the great become legendary.kt2k is dead on. in the 03 state game, kt made the most of slc's mistakes, with a nearly flawless performance. they had a great scheme and showed up on game day, and took the ring.

[RGVBadBoy]

I've been saying it for a long time....the RGV and SouthTexas kids make ALOT of mistakes....fumbled snaps, interseptions, broken plays.....lining up wrong!!!! false starts....these are ALL MISTAKES that happen ALMOST EVERY OTHER PLAY down here..IMO this i COACHING....no attention to detail!!!!! Down here we got alot of what the GOOD TEAMS UP NORTH DO, including the athletes....what we DONT got aside from camps and GREAT equipments is the COACHING that can get these kids EXCECUTING.....YES, these kids wanna play....but DO THE COACHES wanna spend that EXTRA HOUR at practice working on NOT making STUPID mistakes!?!?

Lets face it, Interceptions and holding calls are GONNA HAPPEN....but giving it away ON A SNAP!!?!? SLC excecutes.....another South Texas team i see that JUST PLAIN EXCECUTES is Laredo Nixon....they have NEXT TO NO SIZE, NEXT TO NO SPEED.....yet 10 win season after 10 win season....EVERY SEASON!!!!

[Texasfrog]

I've been saying it for a long time....the RGV and SouthTexas kids make ALOT of mistakes....fumbled snaps, interseptions, broken plays.....lining up wrong!!!! false starts....these are ALL MISTAKES that happen ALMOST EVERY OTHER PLAY down here..IMO this i COACHING....no attention to detail!!!!! Down here we got alot of what the GOOD TEAMS UP NORTH DO, including the athletes....what we DONT got aside from camps and GREAT equipments is the COACHING that can get these kids EXCECUTING.....YES, these kids wanna play....but DO THE COACHES wanna spend that EXTRA HOUR at practice working on NOT making STUPID mistakes!?!?

Lets face it, Interceptions and holding calls are GONNA HAPPEN....but giving it away ON A SNAP!!?!? SLC excecutes.....another South Texas team i see that JUST PLAIN EXCECUTES is Laredo Nixon....they have NEXT TO NO SIZE, NEXT TO NO SPEED.....yet 10 win season after 10 win season....EVERY SEASON!!!!

I think the biggest difference between RGV & South Texas when you compare it to the huge Metro areas of Texas (Houston, Dallas, San Antonio & Austin) and East Texas is the overall (size & speed) of the teams.

Many times you have a (10-0) RGV team and they lose in the 1st or 2nd game of the playoffs. I dont think it's all coaching and I know the kids want to play and win. It's just that 99% of the time they're overmatched by superior talent in those Metro and East Tx teams.

[RGVBadBoy]

I think the biggest difference between RGV & South Texas when you compare it to the huge Metro areas of Texas (Houston, Dallas, San Antonio & Austin) and East Texas is the overall (size & speed) of the teams.

Many times you have a (10-0) RGV team and they lose in the 1st or 2nd game of the playoffs. I dont think it's all coaching and I know the kids want to play and win. It's just that 99% of the time they're overmatched by superior talent in those Metro and East Tx teams.
SURE....i can understand that....but HOW do you explain teams like Calallen in 4A, Port Isabel in 3A and so on....its NOT ALL ABOUT TALENT....but YES IT HELPS....

My question is, WHAT IS DALLAS CARTER'S EXCUSE?!?!!?! why can they get past the 1st or 2nd round?!?!?!

[TheDrgn]

mr lucci we dont need ur opinion, we r the best and i dont care if someone newspaper says so or not, we have been to 4 state championships in a row, and won threee of them, southlake is a a legend and no one wants to play us, ever. we r the greatest dynasty of all time son. and this past season was prob the best hs football team to ever step on the field. period.

[CCHS77]

mr lucci we dont need ur opinion, we r the best and i dont care if someone newspaper says so or not, we have been to 4 state championships in a row, and won threee of them, southlake is a a legend and no one wants to play us, ever. we r the greatest dynasty of all time son. and this past season was prob the best hs football team to ever step on the field. period.


:rolleyes:

[drgnbkr]

mr lucci we dont need ur opinion, we r the best and i dont care if someone newspaper says so or not, we have been to 4 state championships in a row, and won threee of them, southlake is a a legend and no one wants to play us, ever. we r the greatest dynasty of all time son. and this past season was prob the best hs football team to ever step on the field. period.

Hmmm...I might have phrased it a little differently....:eek:

[dragons08]

mr lucci we dont need ur opinion, we r the best and i dont care if someone newspaper says so or not, we have been to 4 state championships in a row, and won threee of them, southlake is a a legend and no one wants to play us, ever. we r the greatest dynasty of all time son. and this past season was prob the best hs football team to ever step on the field. period.
so thats where people get the idea we gloat..

[slorch]

so thats where people get the idea we gloat..

that's not an idea... that's proof. LOL!!!!

not starting anything, I promise!

[Slim-Rob]

mr lucci we dont need ur opinion, we r the best and i dont care if someone newspaper says so or not, we have been to 4 state championships in a row, and won threee of them, southlake is a a legend and no one wants to play us, ever. we r the greatest dynasty of all time son. and this past season was prob the best hs football team to ever step on the field. period.

HANG ON A SEC BUDDY. SLC is good, but your head is a little swollen.

Judson went to state in '90, '92, '93, '95, '96, and '98. So Judson went to state 6 times in 9 years.This past team MAY have been ONE of the best to step on the field, but you can't say that for sure. "no one wants to play us, ever". HAHAHAHAHAHA. "we r the greatest dynasty of all time son" again, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

People like you make me sick. Your so big headed about your team when everyone else on this board tries to act like civilized human beings.

[drgnbkr]

HANG ON A SEC BUDDY. SLC is good, but your head is a little swollen.

Judson went to state in '90, '92, '93, '95, '96, and '98. So Judson went to state 6 times in 9 years.This past team MAY have been ONE of the best to step on the field, but you can't say that for sure. "no one wants to play us, ever". HAHAHAHAHAHA. "we r the greatest dynasty of all time son" again, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

People like you make me sick. Your so big headed about your team when everyone else on this board tries to act like civilized human beings.

Hey, you've gotta admit he's kind of entertaining....:D

[dragons08]

that's not an idea... that's proof. LOL!!!!

not starting anything, I promise!
if you think about it, not many slc fans are 'cocky', we'll have some drive by slc fans, but for the most part, most of us are mellow

[Slim-Rob]

Hey, you've gotta admit he's kind of entertaining....:D

yeah...he is....but I don't want people to think wrong about SLC fans....they are good people

[dragons08]

yeah...he is....but I don't want people to think wrong about SLC fans....they are good people
rocktrn, a smart man, very smart man..

we need more people on here like you buddy

[Texasfrog]

if you think about it, not many slc fans are 'cocky', we'll have some drive by slc fans, but for the most part, most of us are mellow

Many people in the world confuse "cocky" with "confidence." I think many SLC fans and players are very confident people.

[SLCDad]

I want to be clear on this, and I will let it go

Some have brought some good conversation and facts to the table(such as the post witht the road playoff wins.) IMO that is what this forum is all about. It changed my opinion, not through intimidation, but through COMMUNICATION!

Others aren't interested in dialogue, but spouting their blind allegiance to their respective school(s) disregarding any reasonable statement that doesn't support their own position. I cannot support their attitude. It lends itself to an atmosphere of intimidation and leads to feelings against others such as those towards an individual who recently lost the privilege to be on this board.

The attitude of some, "I have been gone a few days, I had better address this" is hillarious. It's like, "Daddy's home, now I'm going to rule on you kids' dissagreement" how condescending is that. I'm not going to allow that. It was obvious they were addressing it by even making a post, then they need an introduction to themselves?

Calling my statement "100% total stupidity" was unfounded. I will defend it, and did.

That's enough of my tirade. I will say through my posts I have neither intentionally provoked nor insulted other members. Can you say that for the others?Regarding your "statement" it was exactly what I said it was. Not only that it was insulting and provoking. Perhaps not to an individual poster, but insulting and provoking nonetheless. That's why it got the response it did from so many posters.

[slorch]

Regarding your "statement" it was exactly what I said it was. Not only that it was insulting and provoking. Perhaps not to an individual poster, but insulting and provoking nonetheless. That's why it got the response it did from so many posters.
what was I thinking. LMAO!