Lake Travis vs. Longview Pt. II

[CCDawgs]

Give me LT by 10. Should be a good one though!

[GameTyme]

Give me Longview by a late TD.

[DEL VALLE]

LT will dominate they just like last year.

[CCDawgs]

LT will dominate they just like last year.

I sure hope so.

[LoboFan07]

I'll keep my mouth shut until Saturday. :)

[CCDawgs]

I'll keep my mouth shut until Saturday. :)

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[slcdragonfan]

LT beat Westlake, a DI 5A finalist. LT beat a team that beat RRSP (transitive property, I know). LT is one of the top 5 teams in this state, and possibly top 2 (or 1!). Longview defeated Allen, and has taken care of business, but I have to say that LT will win this one and continue their streak. Something special going on by the Lake.

[Allstarkaw]

As Much As I'd Like To See The Lobos Get Revenge, Lake Travis Has This Game By 10+..

They Have Been Impressive Thus Far Throughout The Playoffs, And I don't Think Anything's Going To Change....

[wolfpack4life]

LT will dominate they just like last year.
Like del valle dominated against montgomery?

[wolfpack4life]

I sure hope none of you gives us props if we win.

[Allstarkaw]

I sure hope none of you gives us props if we win.
I'll Be The 1st..
But.. It's Hard To Go Against A Team This Hot...

You Just Don't Beat A Team That Bad In The 5th Round Of Texas High School Football...You Just Don't..

[CCDawgs]

I sure hope none of you gives us props if we win.

Even though I dont think it will happen, Ill be on here congratulating Longview if they do pull it out. Overall, it should be a great game. Great atmosphere too.

[lonny23]

I'll Be The 1st..
But.. It's Hard To Go Against A Team This Hot...

You Just Don't Beat A Team That Bad In The 5th Round Of Texas High School Football...You Just Don't..
Sometimes you have teams make big runs and then remember where they're at and freeze up. Sometimes teams start asking themselves if they deserve to be that far.

Longview has beat better teams overall this year and by more points. As much as I want the Lobos to win, I have my doubts they will.

[Maroondog]

I'm going with Longview, but they will have to play lights out to beat LT.

[Semperfi]

Well, here we go again! Lobos wanted another shot at LT for a State Championship and be careful what you wish for because you might get it! It's on & time to rumble. Longview looked good against Guyer last night, but not good enough to beat LT. It will be a good game, but Lake Travis will win this one handily, IMO! Come on now, jump on me -- I'm ready for all the trash talk -- fair, balanced & unafraid! LOL

[Allstarkaw]

On Account Of Longview's Somewhat Struggling Offense..

Lake Travis 34
Longview 13

[lonny23]

On Account Of Longview's Somewhat Struggling Offense..

Lake Travis 34
Longview 13
You guys do know that Longview rushed for over 480 yards last night!:D

Longview has talent and speed and the game will be closer than last year.

[GoLobos]

On Account Of Longview's Somewhat Struggling Offense..


wow, this has to be the dumbest post of the year....

not saying we will beat LT, but our offense is not struggling...

[CCDawgs]

wow, this has to be the dumbest post of the year....

not saying we will beat LT, but our offense is not struggling...

What was it? 50 against Hachie and 49 against Guyer? Something like that. Both defenses will have their hands full. Its going to come down to which defense gets off the field more and creates turnovers.

[LoboFan07]

On Account Of Longview's Somewhat Struggling Offense..

Somewhat struggling offense....LOL

99 points and 979 combined yards of offense against the #3 team in the state in the final AP poll and the #2 team in the state half of the regular season.

Yep. We're major league struggling on offense (and even better since McCray didn't even play in the 2nd half against Guyer).

[Kingwolf]

our schedule and who we played or who Lake Travis played means absolutely squat at this point except the fact that LT has seen a great team like Steele who runs an offense like ours is not really a good thing...

Many anti LT fans need to look back several years to draw an easy comparison as to what LT is capable of....SLC did not play a more difficult preseason schedule than Lufkin and sometimes had an easier road in the playoffs, but for three years they punked Lufkin (you know who was from East Texas and had world class speed all over the field, and lays the wood on any player they hit, blah, blah, blah...) none of that meant jack c.r.a.p. against SLC...they had Lufkin's number everytime...

for LV to avoid a similar fate, they are going to have to play the game of their lives and take every opportunity given to them...they are going to have to get to QB which no one else has done against LT all year...they are going to have to slow them down consistently (which can be done, but our DBs are going to have to play out of their minds)...we are going to have to have a 46 for 485 yd game...we can't turn it over, we can't get drive killing penalties, etc, etc, etc...

most importantly...they are going to have to play like they belong and not be timid like they were last year...LT is not a finesse team, they are power and precision...we are going to have to trade blow for blow...and hit them harder when it counts...

we have to do every bit of that in one complete game WHEN IT COUNTS...

Lets go Lobos!!!! 48 minutes that you will never get back.... :notworthy

[GameTyme]

our schedule and who we played or who Lake Travis played means absolutely squat at this point except the fact that LT has seen a great team like Steele who runs an offense like ours is not really a good thing...

Many anti LT fans need to look back several years to draw an easy comparison as to what LT is capable of....SLC did not play a more difficult preseason schedule than Lufkin and sometimes had an easier road in the playoffs, but for three years they punked Lufkin (you know who was from East Texas and had world class speed all over the field, and lays the wood on any player they hit, blah, blah, blah...) none of that meant jack c.r.a.p. against SLC...they had Lufkin's number everytime...

for LV to avoid a similar fate, they are going to have to play the game of their lives and take every opportunity given to them...they are going to have to get to QB which no one else has done against LT all year...they are going to have to slow them down consistently (which can be done, but our DBs are going to have to play out of their minds)...we are going to have to have a 46 for 485 yd game...we can't turn it over, we can't get drive killing penalties, etc, etc, etc...

most importantly...they are going to have to play like they belong and not be timid like they were last year...LT is not a finesse team, they are power and precision...we are going to have to trade blow for blow...and hit them harder when it counts...

we have to do every bit of that in one complete game WHEN IT COUNTS...

Lets go Lobos!!!! 48 minutes that you will never get back.... :notworthy

Well said but I just believe Longview is the better team if they come to play.

Is McCray going to be able to play because before he was hurt last season he was closing in on 100 yards against LT and had like 3 carries. Will be very intersting.

[PaulinPlano]

The Lobo O-line and D-line is playing great. I know Lobo got a little dinged up against Guyer. Hopefully they will be ready.

LT had tough games against Steele and Alamo Heights (AH game was closer than final score). Lobo brings the same type of game those teams had which gave LT the most trouble.

Lobo, stay away from the read / option. You fumble the ball to dam much doing that.

Waxahachie lost to last year's state champion. I predicted with my vote that they did again this year.

[StonyPoint]

This may sound bad but I would like to see LT roll in this game, just like last year. Come out quick and heavy and make a statement. I would also like to see Brewer get the 150 or so yards he needs to break 5000 yards. I only know like 5 people at LT and none at LV so im not really a benefit to this discussion in any way:D

[c-lisle]

I hate to say it but I see a game similar to last year. LT is a machine. They are like SLC was a few years ago and another state championship will conclude what has been one of the best runs for any program in state history. Last year Longview had no clue what they were coming up against and LT made us look like a middle school team. Dominated us in every aspect of the game. This year we know we are coming up against a team that is better than us and probably one of the best teams in the whole nation regardless of classification. I think the game will be a little closer because Longview will play their guts out but in the end LT will pull away.

However Longview is a better more experienced team this year than they were last year and I think there is a small chance we win if EVERYTHING goes our way. X factor this year is Longview has a QB who can come in and put the ball on the money to the receivers. That will be a big key to our chances of winning this game. He is one reason we pulled it out agaisnt Waxahachie.

[GameTyme]

I hate to say it but I see a game similar to last year. LT is a machine. They are like SLC was a few years ago and another state championship will conclude what has been one of the best runs for any program in state history. Last year Longview had no clue what they were coming up against and LT made us look like a middle school team. Dominated us in every aspect of the game. This year we know we are coming up against a team that is better than us and probably one of the best teams in the whole nation regardless of classification. I think the game will be a little closer because Longview will play their guts out but in the end LT will pull away.

However Longview is a better more experienced team this year than they were last year and I think there is a small chance we win if EVERYTHING goes our way. X factor this year is Longview has a QB who can come in and put the ball on the money to the receivers. That will be a big key to our chances of winning this game. He is one reason we pulled it out agaisnt Waxahachie.

Im not buying it Clisle. Yes Lake Travis is a great team, but so are your Lobos. If Longview shows up ready to play and if McCray can go then I like the Lobos chances. Does anybody really think if McCray didnt go down last year Longview would not have made it a game. The guy was close to 100 yards on what 3 carries. McCray is a special RB feed him the ball and grind the clock.

We will see saturday but I just gotta a feeling that Longview is going to come out and hit somebody in the mouth and ready to play some East Texas football.

[Favpack]

Lobos are better offensively than last year - which is a good thing, but I think LT is about as good as last year, and I think Longview is a little inferior on D as compared to last year - they've given up a lot of points to several teams.

Would not surprise me to see Longview win, as clisle says - Lobo knows what to expect this year - but I don't think that means they stop it.

I see LT winning by a couple of scores, but if LV can keep it close they will have a much better ending to last year.

[lobo9599]

Im not buying it Clisle. Yes Lake Travis is a great team, but so are your Lobos. If Longview shows up ready to play and if McCray can go then I like the Lobos chances. Does anybody really think if McCray didnt go down last year Longview would not have made it a game. The guy was close to 100 yards on what 3 carries. McCray is a special RB feed him the ball and grind the clock.

We will see saturday but I just gotta a feeling that Longview is going to come out and hit somebody in the mouth and ready to play some East Texas football.


Agree. IMO, I think our boys confidence went down after Tyler got hurt. I think after that they were probably scared of LT. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that LT still would not have manhandled us. LT was a great football team, and they are even better this year. I just think we could have made a game out of it if he had not gotten hurt.

Having said that, hoping for the upset Saturday. Good luck Lobos.

[Ltcav83]

Well said but I just believe Longview is the better team if they come to play.

Is McCray going to be able to play because before he was hurt last season he was closing in on 100 yards against LT and had like 3 carries. Will be very intersting.

I am not saying you are wrong, but why do you think that LV is the better team? I believe that LV is a very good team and I always knew that this rematch would happen. Just curious as to your thoughts on why LV takes down LT this year.

[LoboFan07]

and I think Longview is a little inferior on D as compared to last year - they've given up a lot of points to several teams.

Just asking...why do you think that?

Longview has given up 30 points only once this season. Teams have hit the 28 mark a couple of times, but only Marshall was able to get past the 30 mark (22 of that in one quarter). At this point last season, Longview had given up at least 30 three times, and at least 30 in consecutive weeks.

Having watched both teams, I think it's clear that this defense is better than last season's. But that's JMO.

Lake Travis and their fans have every right to be boasting away. I would expect nothing less. They won however many in a row and they're expecting to win their 3rd straight State Title. I'm more than fine with letting them believe that last year's game is an indication of how this year's game will go. But as I've been saying for the past 4-5 weeks now, Longview has continued to find different ways to win.

Against Allen, they were down 17 and won. Against Texas High, they played possession football and both teams combined for a total of 4 drives in the 2nd half with 8+ minute drives on all 4 of them. Against Sulphur Springs/Mount Pleasant/Hallsville, they blew them out from the start. Against Marshall, they created turnovers. Against Midway, they won with their defense. Against Newman Smith, they somehow found a way to stop their passing game when it counted. Against Waxahachie, they came from 20-0 down in the first quarter to win. Against Guyer, they ran right over them.

I'm not saying we'll beat Lake Travis nor have I said I think we'll beat any team we've played thus far...but I've said I'm extremely confident of this group of kids finding a way to win. That's all I'll leave it as. But I will say..this is not the team that I was complaining about time and time again about showing up to play 3-4 weeks ago. They've taken it completely to a different notch, since falling behind 20-0, that was not there in the regular season and against our first two playoff opponents.

[Favpack]

I only saw the Lufkin game, and comparing it to last year. I thought you had given up more points this year in the PO's, but I didn't check it.

[StonyPoint]

The discussion gets tought because you can't really judge LT. You can't point out a weakness to exploit because they haven't lost in so long. There is no blueprint on beating them because no one can beat them. If you want to have a chance I would say sustain long drives and get the ball last and score last leaving less that :20 on the clock. In this game I would expect nothing less than perfection from LT's offense. I only see a team beating them who can put up wild scores because LT can and will do that to anyone anyday.

[Favpack]

The discussion gets tought because you can't really judge LT. You can't point out a weakness to exploit because they haven't lost in so long. There is no blueprint on beating them because no one can beat them. If you want to have a chance I would say sustain long drives and get the ball last and score last leaving less that :20 on the clock. In this game I would expect nothing less than perfection from LT's offense. I only see a team beating them who can put up wild scores because LT can and will do that to anyone anyday.

I can't imagine Longview not scoring 35, and I guess the reality is LT may score 55, but if they are not dialed in 100% - watch out.

There is this talk about McCray - which I know nothing about - but he is a vital cog in their O.

[LoboFan07]

I only saw the Lufkin game, and comparing it to last year. I thought you had given up more points this year in the PO's, but I didn't check it.

Understandable. Like I said, though, this team has been a completely different team these past two weeks than what we saw leading up to the Hachie game.

The fact that we were posting how much of a disappointment this season was not because of the fact that they hadn't won the games they were suppose to win or anything but just the fact about them not playing to their potential and playing like they cared. Well after they got down 20-0 to Hachie, suddenly we saw that potential that we had been talking bout since the start of the season. And it continued against Guyer.

Beating Lake Travis will be a huge test for this team and I'm sure most people don't think we even have a shot, which I'm sure the guys on this team are perfectly happy with. But I've learned not to underestimate the heart a team has....just how big Longview's heart will be determined on Saturday.

[Maxthedog]

You guys do know that Longview rushed for over 480 yards last night!:D

Longview has talent and speed and the game will be closer than last year.

I wouldn't call LV offense struggling but they didn't really sustain a long drive on Guyer, then just scored on 60-70-80-90 yard runs:)
Lake Travis plays much better D with more dicipline than Guyer so I don't see 'as many' long runs but who knows. #5 for LV can take it to the house on any play and the QB is fast as well. #7 was banged up and didn't play after the TD so LV actually has 2 rockets that can go the distance on any play. Problem Longview has,,,pass D is no-so-good and even the LV guys have stated that. Guyer passed at will and they are not a top flight passing team anywhere near Lake Travis. If Lake Travis gets a lead and Longview has to pass,,,not exactly Longviews strength. No matter what the score or what Longview does, Lake Travis will pass ALOT. Longview can score on anyone, so can Lake Travis. Lake Travis has a better defense than Longview. Should be a great game.

[StonyPoint]

I can't imagine Longview not scoring 35, and I guess the reality is LT may score 55, but if they are not dialed in 100% - watch out.

There is this talk about McCray - which I know nothing about - but he is a vital cog in their O.
From what I understand LT calls off the dogs at 50 pts and is fully capable of running the score up even more. We will see, honestly I expect LT to score on virtually every possession they have and if LV can match them score for score we will have a game. JMHO

[LoboFan07]

I wouldn't call LV offense struggling but they didn't really sustain a long drive on Guyer, then just scored on 60-70-80-90 yard runs:)

As you said, we didn't have to sustain a drive at all. Guyer plain couldn't stop anything we threw at them most of the night. There were a couple here and theres that they got us. But then our defense stepped up and Longview took control again. I was honestly shocked to see our bad Guyer's defense was getting beat by our rushing game. I never expected to pile up almost 500 rushing yards on a defense that had supposedly one of the best D linemen in the State in Bible. That was a major fail.

[Shamu85]

Im not buying it Clisle. Yes Lake Travis is a great team, but so are your Lobos. If Longview shows up ready to play and if McCray can go then I like the Lobos chances. Does anybody really think if McCray didnt go down last year Longview would not have made it a game. The guy was close to 100 yards on what 3 carries. McCray is a special RB feed him the ball and grind the clock.

We will see saturday but I just gotta a feeling that Longview is going to come out and hit somebody in the mouth and ready to play some East Texas football.

Hardly. 7 carries, 52 (AAS) or 53 (LN-J) yards.

[wolfpack4life]

Well, here we go again! Lobos wanted another shot at LT for a State Championship and be careful what you wish for because you might get it! It's on & time to rumble. Longview looked good against Guyer last night, but not good enough to beat LT. It will be a good game, but Lake Travis will win this one handily, IMO! Come on now, jump on me -- I'm ready for all the trash talk -- fair, balanced & unafraid! LOL
Well, IMO! Your an moron.

But thats just IMO!

[wolfpack4life]

I wouldn't call LV offense struggling but they didn't really sustain a long drive on Guyer, then just scored on 60-70-80-90 yard runs:)
Lake Travis plays much better D with more dicipline than Guyer so I don't see 'as many' long runs but who knows. #5 for LV can take it to the house on any play and the QB is fast as well. #7 was banged up and didn't play after the TD so LV actually has 2 rockets that can go the distance on any play. Problem Longview has,,,pass D is no-so-good and even the LV guys have stated that. Guyer passed at will and they are not a top flight passing team anywhere near Lake Travis. If Lake Travis gets a lead and Longview has to pass,,,not exactly Longviews strength. No matter what the score or what Longview does, Lake Travis will pass ALOT. Longview can score on anyone, so can Lake Travis. Lake Travis has a better defense than Longview. Should be a great game.
Ok.:o

[GameTyme]

I am not saying you are wrong, but why do you think that LV is the better team? I believe that LV is a very good team and I always knew that this rematch would happen. Just curious as to your thoughts on why LV takes down LT this year.


From being one of Longviews biggest rivals I know what they are capable of doing. Whenever they smell blood Longview will finish off nearly every team in the state givin the chance. I always like to go back and see where teams were ranked at the beginning of the season and what everybody thought before then and Longview was the percieved better team and if Longview never looses to Lufkin then im not so sure people dont think that.

[Allstarkaw]

Well, IMO! Your an moron.

But thats just IMO!
Your Grammar Cuts Cheese...;)

[CCDawgs]

Well, IMO! Your an moron.

But thats just IMO!

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[wolfpack4life]

Your Grammar Cuts Cheese...;)
Cowboys....ahh never mind.:D

[Allstarkaw]

Well, IMO! Your an moron.

But thats just IMO!
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[wolfpack4life]

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[Allstarkaw]

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[c-lisle]

Im not buying it Clisle. Yes Lake Travis is a great team, but so are your Lobos. If Longview shows up ready to play and if McCray can go then I like the Lobos chances. Does anybody really think if McCray didnt go down last year Longview would not have made it a game. The guy was close to 100 yards on what 3 carries. McCray is a special RB feed him the ball and grind the clock.

We will see saturday but I just gotta a feeling that Longview is going to come out and hit somebody in the mouth and ready to play some East Texas football.

I have seen several ppl trying to argue that us losing Mccray last year had alot to do with losing the game. Anyone who was at that game knows that LT made Longview look like a bunch of school girls out there and you think one player would have changed that??? no way. The only difference I see in this year and last year is we ahve more experience. Mccray still isnt 100% so I dont see him being a difference maker even if he does play. As always anything can happen but LT plays their game I dont see us beating them and yes it could get ugly. Thats just being realistic.

[wolfpack4life]

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[Allstarkaw]

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[CCDawgs]

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Part II. Same result.

[LoboFan07]

Did you seriously have to get the biggest picture you could find?

[CCDawgs]

Did you seriously have to get the biggest picture you could find?


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[lonny23]

From what I understand LT calls off the dogs at 50 pts and is fully capable of running the score up even more. We will see, honestly I expect LT to score on virtually every possession they have and if LV can match them score for score we will have a game. JMHO
Yeah, that's why they left Gilbert Grape in the game until almost the very end last year just to break the passing record. Some class they have!:D

[lonny23]

I wouldn't call LV offense struggling but they didn't really sustain a long drive on Guyer, then just scored on 60-70-80-90 yard runs:)
Lake Travis plays much better D with more dicipline than Guyer so I don't see 'as many' long runs but who knows. #5 for LV can take it to the house on any play and the QB is fast as well. #7 was banged up and didn't play after the TD so LV actually has 2 rockets that can go the distance on any play. Problem Longview has,,,pass D is no-so-good and even the LV guys have stated that. Guyer passed at will and they are not a top flight passing team anywhere near Lake Travis. If Lake Travis gets a lead and Longview has to pass,,,not exactly Longviews strength. No matter what the score or what Longview does, Lake Travis will pass ALOT. Longview can score on anyone, so can Lake Travis. Lake Travis has a better defense than Longview. Should be a great game.Time has shown me that teams that can break long plays do so against many teams. The key to long plays is if the next team is faster than the last team. I don't think LT is that much faster than Guyer so I expect more long plays from the Lobos.

[Ltcav83]

From being one of Longviews biggest rivals I know what they are capable of doing. Whenever they smell blood Longview will finish off nearly every team in the state givin the chance. I always like to go back and see where teams were ranked at the beginning of the season and what everybody thought before then and Longview was the percieved better team and if Longview never looses to Lufkin then im not so sure people dont think that.

What happens if LT starts smelling blood?

[NeverIsNow]

Your Grammar Cuts Cheese...;)

Your capitalization does as well.... Until you're perfect, I wouldn't criticize someone else.

[Ltcav83]

Time has shown me that teams that can break long plays do so against many teams. The key to long plays is if the next team is faster than the last team. I don't think LT is that much faster than Guyer so I expect more long plays from the Lobos.

I have no doubt that LV will break some long plays. I also have no doubt that LT's defense is much better than Guyers. This game may evolve into a shootout and no team is better equipted to get in a shootout than LT. This should be a great game.

[NeverIsNow]

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I guess you wouldn't mind if I post pictures of JT humiliating Coperas Cove, huh? The difference is that last year Lake Travis was the #3 team in the nation who beat everybody they played. John Tyler, not so much.

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Look! I can live through another team to beat yours too!!! Except I can also post pictures from a Bryan game and A&M Consolidated game as well from this year.

[Favpack]

Shock 'da world

Longview - 45
LT - 42

[chapfootball123]

LETS BRING 2 CHAMPIONSHIPS BACK TO THE LAKE!!!! Go LT!

From: Your neighbors down the street in Westlake. Go get 'em cavs.

[Maxthedog]

Time has shown me that teams that can break long plays do so against many teams. The key to long plays is if the next team is faster than the last team. I don't think LT is that much faster than Guyer so I expect more long plays from the Lobos.

You could be right Lonnie. About half the long runs Longview made on Guyer was the DE was out of position and very poor tackling(several grabbing at the runner). Do i think Longview will break a few,,for sure. Biggest impact to the game will be IF Lake Travis gets rolling and gets a lead that forces Longview to pass or get out of their ground game. LV passing game vs LT pass defense, advantage is big in favor of LT. LV playing their type of game vs LT run defense, slight advantage LV. Question of the game, who's defense will force the other team 'adjust' first. Going to be a great game, THAT I have no doubt! I don't see LT winning big like last year. Hell the 2 teams I picked to win 5A D1 and D2 are playing basketball, so what do I know:)

[CCDawgs]

I guess you wouldn't mind if I post pictures of JT humiliating Coperas Cove, huh? The difference is that last year Lake Travis was the #3 team in the nation who beat everybody they played. John Tyler, not so much.

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Look! I can live through another team to beat yours too!!! Except I can also post pictures from a Bryan game and A&M Consolidated game as well from this year.

I can bring in the pictures of Cove whipping JT the second time? And yall getting whipped by Klein, and getting handled by Tyler Lee? It goes both ways.

[LTMOM59]

LETS BRING 2 CHAMPIONSHIPS BACK TO THE LAKE!!!! Go LT!

From: Your neighbors down the street in Westlake. Go get 'em cavs.

Thanks!!!!:)

[NeverIsNow]

I can bring in the pictures of Cove whipping JT the second time? And yall getting whipped by Klein, and getting handled by Tyler Lee? It goes both ways.
Which is the EXACT point I was trying to make... You feel all high and mighty because you can live vicariously through teams beating Longview... Anyone can talk about beating CC. Tyler Lee went 4 rounds, Klein more. A&M Consolidated and Bryan did not. Besides, JT beat you by 4 TDs. If Lee "handled" JT and won by 11, what did JT do to CC? Bend them over and make them like it? LOL Are you really trying to talk smack?

[CCDawgs]

Which is the EXACT point I was trying to make... You feel all high and mighty because you can live vicariously through teams beating Longview... Anyone can talk about beating CC. Tyler Lee went 4 rounds, Klein more. A&M Consolidated and Bryan did not. Besides, JT beat you by 4 TDs. If Lee "handled" JT and won by 11, what did JT do to CC? Bend them over and make them like it? LOL Are you really trying to talk smack?

Im not talking smack. Im simply supporting an area team? Am I not allowed to do that? Everything is friendly on here my man.

[NeverIsNow]

Im not talking smack. Im simply supporting an area team? Am I not allowed to do that? Everything is friendly on here my man.
If you say so, man. The first pic you posted of LT scoring seemed like you were posting in a taunting manner.

[CCDawgs]

If you say so, man. The first pic you posted of LT scoring seemed like you were posting in a taunting manner.

Oh no no. All talk is friendly from me. Smack or not.

[BC2001Eagles]

I have no dog in the fight,but I'm going with Longview.

In every highlight I saw from the news stations in Houston this past weekend, it seems LT did alot of talking,finger pointing, throwing the ball up in the air in front of players after INT's and extra stuff in the fews clips I saw aired after TD's againt Pearland Dawson. Rubbed me a bit wrong.

I better duck !

[Txmusic]

In every highlight I saw from the news stations in Houston this past weekend, it seems LT did alot of talking,finger pointing, throwing the ball up in the air in front of players after INT's and extra stuff in the fews clips I saw aired after TD's againt Pearland Dawson. Rubbed me a bit wrong.

You didn't go to the game, this pisses me off you saw a few clips on TV and they didn't show Dawson trying to be Miami during warn-ups before coming to the 50 yd line and doing the things you just mention while LT just stood and watch. Spitting during the game does not rub you the wrong way! You can spin it any way you want BUT you didn't see what I watch during the game a Class less act from some want a be's. I hope there is a video of that to show this ( I am going to be nice) poster.

[chapfootball123]

Thanks!!!!:)

But of course! I think as neighbors it's only right that we support each other.

[Ltcav83]

I have no dog in the fight,but I'm going with Longview.

In every highlight I saw from the news stations in Houston this past weekend, it seems LT did alot of talking,finger pointing, throwing the ball up in the air in front of players after INT's and extra stuff in the fews clips I saw aired after TD's againt Pearland Dawson. Rubbed me a bit wrong.

I better duck !

You are partially right. Dawson did their talking before the game. LT did theirs during the game. LT will not back down and if its gets dirty then they can play that way too. They probably won't start it, but they will finish it.

[Shamu85]

I have no dog in the fight,but I'm going with Longview.

In every highlight I saw from the news stations in Houston this past weekend, it seems LT did alot of talking,finger pointing, throwing the ball up in the air in front of players after INT's and extra stuff in the fews clips I saw aired after TD's againt Pearland Dawson. Rubbed me a bit wrong.

I better duck !

Interesting that the news clips did not show the Dawson players going into LT's warmup area before the game even started, talking smack and starting a fight. They then proceeded to get there arses thumped by a far superior LT team.

That being said, LV might still be a good pick. I don't think so, but I have not seen them play this year. I have seen LT however, and still think they are the best team in the state regardless of classification.

[BlakeJ]

I'll take Longview simply because the LT reps in this thread are a little arrogant and annoying.

[Ltcav83]

I'll take Longview simply because the LT reps in this thread are a little arrogant and annoying.

That is rich coming from a Katy fan!

[BandidoNB]

Here to support the Cavs to bring home another state title.

Lake Travis by 21, though I do see Longview scoring more than 20 points.

[chapfootball123]

Here to support the Cavs to bring home another state title.

Lake Travis by 21, though I do see Longview scoring more than 20 points.

Wouldn't be the first time LT had an offensive explosion this season... or in the playoffs... or against Longview in the state championship.

[LP-79]

You know I may be wrong, Lord knows it will not be the first time!:) I see this as more a low scoring game. Both teams have high octane offensives but both also have pretty good defenses. A 17-14 or a 21-20 game in favor of Longview is what I am predicting.

[chapfootball123]

And my post was just a joking jab (thats a lot of "j"'s). Good luck to both teams and may both teams be injury free!

[wolfpack4life]

I guess you wouldn't mind if I post pictures of JT humiliating Coperas Cove, huh? The difference is that last year Lake Travis was the #3 team in the nation who beat everybody they played. John Tyler, not so much.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c117/goten1214/jt.png?t=1260891476

Look! I can live through another team to beat yours too!!! Except I can also post pictures from a Bryan game and A&M Consolidated game as well from this year.
:DWell, his face is cracked now.

[wolfpack4life]

lets bring 2 championships back to the lake!!!! Go lt!

From: Your neighbors down the street in westlake. Go get 'em cavs.
0;)

[wolfpack4life]

I'll take Longview simply because the LT reps in this thread are a little arrogant and annoying.
:DSomeone finally said it.

[wolfpack4life]

That is rich coming from a Katy fan!
Show more class than any of you.

[lonny23]

Here's what gets my goat about this game and it really bothers me. I've seen a state title game in every classification except 4A and I want to erase that. I won't be at either 4A title game this week because I'll be at the Kansas-Michigan basketball game and then head north to Minnesota and North Dakota to see some hockey games.

What makes this doubly worse is this:

I started semi-following Judson in the early 80's and was always happy for their wins/titles, but I never got to see them on a weekly basis until I moved to Converse in 2001. I was thrilled to be there every step along the way for the 2002 title, was deployed for the 2005 run, but I did get to see the 2007 title game. 2002 was not the same as my feelings for the teams listed below. As much as I love what Judson has always stood for character-wise, it's just not the same being a fan when you start going to the games after quite a bit of success even if you do like me and start on the train early in the success before most of the titles. Being a Judson fan and not going to the games for so long will always be somewhat shallow for me.

I graduated high school in Mt. Pleasant and outside of the Quarterfinal run the year after I graduated (Couldn't handle the Chapel Hill defense that year), I was always out of state/country for their playoff runs in the 90's and they're garbage now and the only title they ever played for was the Cuero loss in 1973. I lived in Pittsburg before Mt. Pleasant and went there my freshman year and this run this year was the best I've ever seen and the last good playoff run they had was when I was a Freshman and they couldn't handle Daingerfield's 2nd title run, but they sure enough beat Gilmer that year!:D 1980 was the only title game for the Pirates and they won it that year.

Before I ever rooted for either Mt. Pleasant or Pittsburg, I was a Longview fan. I started going to their games in the 70's and always wanted them to end the 1937 drought. They always had pretty good teams when I was in Longview, but never good enough. I was in Korea when they lost the 1997 title and I couldn't go to last year's game vs. Lake Travis because my dad was helping me at the house. Ever since Saturday night, it's bothered me that the Lobos might end the drought this year and I won't be there to see it. If I didn't have so much money invested in the games and trip, I'd just go to Waco this week. On the other hand, I'd hate to skip the trip in the event the Lobos lose and we can't guarantee anything. At the end of the day, I have to fall back on "Do what you can guarantee and don't worry about the rest."

[LP-79]

That what I like about you Lonny! You always tell it like you see it. It does not matter to you how other people construe what you say. Enjoy the games you are going to this weekend. Got a question for you though! Were you at Longview-Lufkin game in early 70's that Lufkin won but Longview went to playoffs off a coinflip? Lufkin and John Tyler stayed home and I know Lufkin had the better team with Elrick And Delrick Brown. I just remember it being freakin cold on my skinny butt that night. Did not have as much padding as I do now.

[bowiedawgs01]

I'll take Longview simply because the LT reps in this thread are a little arrogant and annoying.

I notice arrogance coming from Longview too. Oh well.

[bowiedawgs01]

Shock 'da world

Longview - 45
LT - 42

Shock the world? Before the season, and throughout most of it, people were saying Longview was #1 and would dominate on their way to the title.

[GameTyme]

What happens if LT starts smelling blood?


Then it could get ugly for the Lobos. But ill leave it on this note Longview has came back from 17-0 and 20-0 deficits from some very good teams(Allen, Waxahachie) while I think the only real hole Lt has faced was to Steele I think 12-0. But give the Cavs credit they made one heck of a goal line stand from inside the 5. Maybe if Steel gets that they are a 2pt conversion away from ending the 3 peat run.

I know Longview is going to show up and play and I know LT will come in ready. This is going to be a very good game. Now if I had to pic an absolute winner right now im thinking LT, but if Longview shows up like I know they are capable of playing we will have some shocked cavs fans.

Is this game going to be televised.

[CCDawgs]

Then it could get ugly for the Lobos. But ill leave it on this note Longview has came back from 17-0 and 20-0 deficits from some very good teams(Allen, Waxahachie) while I think the only real hole Lt has faced was to Steele I think 12-0. But give the Cavs credit they made one heck of a goal line stand from inside the 5. Maybe if Steel gets that they are a 2pt conversion away from ending the 3 peat run.

I know Longview is going to show up and play and I know LT will come in ready. This is going to be a very good game. Now if I had to pic an absolute winner right now im thinking LT, but if Longview shows up like I know they are capable of playing we will have some shocked cavs fans.

Is this game going to be televised.

Unfortunately no. But it sure as heck needs to be!

[SLC]

The predictor says Lake Travis 38-28.

[Ltcav83]

Show more class than any of you.

Every Longview person that I met last year was nice. If you associate message board, good natured smack with class, then I don't quite know what to say. I said before the year that these two team would meet again and here we are. LT has been a bit better than I thought they would be and LV is as good as I knew they would be.

Yes, I think LT wins because they seem to have a bit better team. What do you think? Will you be there?

[Shamu85]

Every Longview person that I met last year was nice. If you associate message board, good natured smack with class, then I don't quite know what to say. I said before the year that these two team would meet again and here we are. LT has been a bit better than I thought they would be and LV is as good as I knew they would be.

Yes, I think LT wins because they seem to have a bit better team. What do you think? Will you be there?

Will you? I am trying to make sure the "boss" is not gonna have a problem with one more Saturday away. A friend of mine is gonna set up a big tailgating party early Sat. for his son's birthday so they can celebrate and watch the game.

[c-lisle]

You know I may be wrong, Lord knows it will not be the first time!:) I see this as more a low scoring game. Both teams have high octane offensives but both also have pretty good defenses. A 17-14 or a 21-20 game in favor of Longview is what I am predicting.

i dont see it being that low scoring. Maybe Longview score is accurate but I dont see us holding LT to under 30 pts....just too explosive.

[c-lisle]

Then it could get ugly for the Lobos. But ill leave it on this note Longview has came back from 17-0 and 20-0 deficits from some very good teams(Allen, Waxahachie) while I think the only real hole Lt has faced was to Steele I think 12-0. But give the Cavs credit they made one heck of a goal line stand from inside the 5. Maybe if Steel gets that they are a 2pt conversion away from ending the 3 peat run.

I know Longview is going to show up and play and I know LT will come in ready. This is going to be a very good game. Now if I had to pic an absolute winner right now im thinking LT, but if Longview shows up like I know they are capable of playing we will have some shocked cavs fans.

Is this game going to be televised.

we came ready to play last year and got rolled. I think one reason this will be a better game is because Longview knows what it is up against. I dont think many people from East Texas actually knew just how good LT was. People tried to warn us but not many listened. I hope last years game got our attention.

[Ltcav83]

Will you? I am trying to make sure the "boss" is not gonna have a problem with one more Saturday away. A friend of mine is gonna set up a big tailgating party early Sat. for his son's birthday so they can celebrate and watch the game.

I will be there and hopefully not be caught in traffic and miss the first 3 plays like I did last year! I think that it will be a great game. Not sure about a high scoring shootout, but something like 35-24. Would love to see LT make history.

By the way, they should be this good or probably better next year.

[lobo9599]

i dont see it being that low scoring. Maybe Longview score is accurate but I dont see us holding LT to under 30 pts....just too explosive.


Ugh... You sure do know how to bring someone hopes and dreams down. :) Who knows what will happen. Maybe we can hold LT to 30 pts. Steele did it and if I am not mistaking another team did it. Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying we are anything like Steele and whoever else. We all know LT is great and they can score in the 100's if they wanted to, but just maybe our D will play the game of their lives, anything is possible.

[LoboFan07]

I will be there and hopefully not be caught in traffic and miss the first 3 plays like I did last year!

You leave way too late if you're missing plays.

I'll be leaving Longview at 9:30 AM on Saturday morning.

[Txmusic]

The team is leaving at 1pm and if the traffic is like last yr than Im back driving the feeders. I know the LV side was slowly filling up during the game. I know I want to tailgate but my wife does not so I still plan to leave a little early and maybe visit some nice LV people along the way.

[NeverIsNow]

Shock the world? Before the season, and throughout most of it, people were saying Longview was #1 and would dominate on their way to the title.

Longview was ranked #1 preseason... Big deal. Ever since their week 4 loss, they dropped below Lake Travis and haven't passed them since. LT has a 45-game winning streak, waltzed through their schedule , beat Longview last year, etc. It'll be a HUGE upset if Longview wins.

[BandidoNB]

Ugh... You sure do know how to bring someone hopes and dreams down. :) Who knows what will happen. Maybe we can hold LT to 30 pts. Steele did it and if I am not mistaking another team did it. Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying we are anything like Steele and whoever else. We all know LT is great and they can score in the 100's if they wanted to, but just maybe our D will play the game of their lives, anything is possible.

That other team was San Antonio Alamo Heights, both them and Steele are in the same district. Speaking of that district, Kerrville Tivy is from that district too; they lost in the state semis against Brenham. That be 27-4A. Where 8th place Seguin beat 5A playoff team San Antonio East Central... eek!

[bowiedawgs01]

Longview was ranked #1 preseason... Big deal. Ever since their week 4 loss, they dropped below Lake Travis and haven't passed them since. LT has a 45-game winning streak, waltzed through their schedule , beat Longview last year, etc. It'll be a HUGE upset if Longview wins.

Disagree. You are overstating it.

[c-lisle]

Ugh... You sure do know how to bring someone hopes and dreams down. :) Who knows what will happen. Maybe we can hold LT to 30 pts. Steele did it and if I am not mistaking another team did it. Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying we are anything like Steele and whoever else. We all know LT is great and they can score in the 100's if they wanted to, but just maybe our D will play the game of their lives, anything is possible.

true anything can happen could be a defensive struggle. As you can tell I was very dissapointed at last years game and still not over it. I am hopeful that this game will go very differently but I am not sure it will right now.

[NeverIsNow]

Disagree. You are overstating it.

Overstating nothing. Everything I posted was a fact. Not my fault if you can't handle it. LT is #2 in the nation. Any unranked team beating them will be a huge upset. Or are you just mad that Highland Park couldn't even get by Waxahachie, much less Longview, to be playing against Lake Travis?

[NeverIsNow]

That other team was San Antonio Alamo Heights, both them and Steele are in the same district. Speaking of that district, Kerrville Tivy is from that district too; they lost in the state semis against Brenham. That be 27-4A. Where 8th place Seguin beat 5A playoff team San Antonio East Central... eek!

There have been 5A playoff teams with 2 wins before....

Although Steele, Alamo Heights, and Kerrville Tivy are all great schools, that stat of Seguine beating a 5A playoff team doesn't mean much lol

[GameTyme]

Longview was ranked #1 preseason... Big deal. Ever since their week 4 loss, they dropped below Lake Travis and haven't passed them since. LT has a 45-game winning streak, waltzed through their schedule , beat Longview last year, etc. It'll be a HUGE upset if Longview wins.


When some teams win it jus cant be an upset. Longview is more then capable of beating LT.

[bowiedawgs01]

Overstating nothing. Everything I posted was a fact. Not my fault if you can't handle it. LT is #2 in the nation. Any unranked team beating them will be a huge upset. Or are you just mad that Highland Park couldn't even get by Waxahachie, much less Longview, to be playing against Lake Travis?

With all the talk I heard from Lobo fans before the season, I won't consider it an upset. Lobo fans won't. You can't have it both ways.

I don't give a **** that HP isn't there.

I can't handle it? Handle what? Laughable.

[lobo9599]

true anything can happen could be a defensive struggle. As you can tell I was very dissapointed at last years game and still not over it. I am hopeful that this game will go very differently but I am not sure it will right now.


Oh ye of little faith. Whatever happens will happen. Go Lobos!

[NeverIsNow]

With all the talk I heard from Lobo fans before the season, I won't consider it an upset. Lobo fans won't. You can't have it both ways.

I don't give a **** that HP isn't there.

I can't handle it? Handle what? Laughable.

People like you are the reason there should be no preseason rankings in college football. They're exactly that: PRESEASON. They are without seeing any team play a down of football. But I guess that's gospel in week 16, huh? Lobo fans said they'd be good at the start at the beginning of the season, and let's face it, they are. But Lake Travis is in a league of it's own. They've smacked every opponent on their way here, including Austin Westlake who is playing for a title in 5A. Their closest game was against Steele, and they still won by 7. Longview has beaten Waco Midway 14-13 in the playoffs. And Newman Smith 28-25. They had a chance to lose both games. They lost to Lufkin by 2 TDs. Because Lobo fans thought they'd be back in the championship game (which they are) doesn't mean that they're not huge underdogs in this game. Like I said, LT is #2 in the nation. They're riding some 45-game win streak. What Lobo fans said before a down of football was played means nothing when determining how good teams are now.

[NeverIsNow]

When some teams win it jus cant be an upset. Longview is more then capable of beating LT.

Capable of beating and favored to beat are two different things... But you're right. At any time, a team like Longview or Lufkin is dangerous and can beat anyone.

[Kingwolf]

People like you are the reason there should be no preseason rankings in college football. They're exactly that: PRESEASON. They are without seeing any team play a down of football. But I guess that's gospel in week 16, huh? Lobo fans said they'd be good at the start at the beginning of the season, and let's face it, they are. But Lake Travis is in a league of it's own. They've smacked every opponent on their way here, including Austin Westlake who is playing for a title in 5A. Their closest game was against Steele, and they still won by 7. Longview has beaten Waco Midway 14-13 in the playoffs. And Newman Smith 28-25. They had a chance to lose both games. They lost to Lufkin by 2 TDs. Because Lobo fans thought they'd be back in the championship game (which they are) doesn't mean that they're not huge underdogs in this game. Like I said, LT is #2 in the nation. They're riding some 45-game win streak. What Lobo fans said before a down of football was played means nothing when determining how good teams are now.

Best post on the thread...

LT is the new SLC...if they were in 5a they would be just as dominate as evidenced by Austin Westlake...LV is facing a team of undeniable talent and experience...I have no doubt that we should be at least 14 or more point underdogs...

[BandidoNB]

There have been 5A playoff teams with 2 wins before....

Although Steele, Alamo Heights, and Kerrville Tivy are all great schools, that stat of Seguine beating a 5A playoff team doesn't mean much lol


Thats true, there have been 2 win 5A playoff teams, but the East Central team that Seguin beat was not a 2 win ball club.. besides Seguin also blew out Georgetown. I dont think 5A Georgetown made the playoffs, but it was a blowout :)

[LTMOM59]

QUOTE (Aggie98 @ Dec 18 2008, 09:32 PM) http://www.smoaky.com/forum/style_images/smoakyred/post_snapback.gif (http://www.smoaky.com/forum/index.php?act=findpost&pid=1097325)
As an outsider looking in.... regardless of what the LT posters are saying on this board or any of the others, I can assure you that the Cavalier fans are scared to death of what Longview brings into this game (and they should be scared). Awesome speed and tremendous athletes on both sides of the ball for Longview with great coaching...... LT will have to step their game up 2 or 3 notches to stay in this ball game.

Just found this in last years blogs:D

I'm just saying, that no matter what any of you say here on this site, the results will be decided on the field on Saturday evening, so you guys can spout off all you want about how great yall are until Saturday, Have Fun!!!

GO CAVS!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

[LoboFan07]

so you guys can spout off all you want about how great yall are until Saturday, Have Fun!!!

GO CAVS!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

If anything, this is the Lake Travis lovefest thread.

[LTMOM59]

I think you took me out of context,

All I was saying is for you guys who post everyday to have fun until Saturday,and then let the boys from BOTH teams play it out on Saturday on the football field

GO CAVS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[grayowl60]

There is a very good chance that the best team will win. Hay Longview fans, team, parents etc. yall just go on down in there and have some fun, make some memories, play like you are playing Lufkin.... kick some butt!
GO LOBOS!!!

[lonny23]

There is a very good chance that the best team will win. Hay Longview fans, team, parents etc. yall just go on down in there and have some fun, make some memories, play like you are playing Lufkin.... kick some butt!
GO LOBOS!!!I hope not!:D

Longview almost never beats those bums.

[SLC]

I hope not!:D

Longview almost never beats those bums.


Oh I dont know. If Longview plays Lake Travis the same way they play Lufkin, then it should result in a win for Longview. A win Saturday would give Longview a tied record with Lake Travis and I believe that is the current result in the Longview/Lufkin series. Now, true enough that recent history hasn't been as kind to the Lobo's when facing Lufkin, but overall they are even and there aren't alot that can say that about Longview.

[bowiedawgs01]

People like you are the reason there should be no preseason rankings in college football. They're exactly that: PRESEASON. They are without seeing any team play a down of football. But I guess that's gospel in week 16, huh? Lobo fans said they'd be good at the start at the beginning of the season, and let's face it, they are. But Lake Travis is in a league of it's own. They've smacked every opponent on their way here, including Austin Westlake who is playing for a title in 5A. Their closest game was against Steele, and they still won by 7. Longview has beaten Waco Midway 14-13 in the playoffs. And Newman Smith 28-25. They had a chance to lose both games. They lost to Lufkin by 2 TDs. Because Lobo fans thought they'd be back in the championship game (which they are) doesn't mean that they're not huge underdogs in this game. Like I said, LT is #2 in the nation. They're riding some 45-game win streak. What Lobo fans said before a down of football was played means nothing when determining how good teams are now.

blah blah blah

You're telling me that Lake Travis is better than Longview? No ****. I knew that before the season started. I just got tired of all the talk from Lobo fans. You can't run your mouth half the season and then try to have the underdog edge too.

[NeverIsNow]

blah blah blah

You're telling me that Lake Travis is better than Longview? No ****. I knew that before the season started. I just got tired of all the talk from Lobo fans. You can't run your mouth half the season and then try to have the underdog edge too.

Oh, so now you're hopping on the LT bandwagon? After HP got booted, I can see why...

[SLC]

Oh, so now you're hopping on the LT bandwagon? After HP got booted, I can see why...


Just for the record and I know BD doesn't need me to speak for him, but he is an Austin area fan, his attachment to HP is due to his freindship with an immediate fan of HP. Not much difference with any of us who have friends of other teams and we root for their teams because of that. But let there be no doubt that BD is an Austin area fan/CenTex fan.

[CCDawgs]

Oh, so now you're hopping on the LT bandwagon? After HP got booted, I can see why...

Maybe you can "hop" on too after Saturday.

[grayowl60]

Just for the record and I know BD doesn't need me to speak for him, but he is an Austin area fan, his attachment to HP is due to his freindship with an immediate fan of HP. Not much difference with any of us who have friends of other teams and we root for their teams because of that. But let there be no doubt that BD is an Austin area fan/CenTex fan.
Oh? BS! Just dont EVER say anything about the skirts or he will tell you your opinion is "laughable" and say that he runs this board, so be careful! Hell he may even call you a weasel. A master spell checker.

[NeverIsNow]

Just for the record and I know BD doesn't need me to speak for him, but he is an Austin area fan, his attachment to HP is due to his freindship with an immediate fan of HP. Not much difference with any of us who have friends of other teams and we root for their teams because of that. But let there be no doubt that BD is an Austin area fan/CenTex fan.

Yeah, I know. But he vehemently defended them in thread after thread on here, giving the impression that he liked HP. If he can whine that Longview isn't an underdog simply because their fans were confident they'd be back in the state game (which they, you know, are), then I should be able to label him a HP fan because of all the smacktalking he did for them before they got blasted by Waxahachie.

[NeverIsNow]

Maybe you can "hop" on too after Saturday.

lolcove

[JoeC]

Here's my take and I am very seldom wrong. The score will be 38-27 - pick your winner - I know who I am going with in this one. There was one very big mistake made here - they scheduled this game at night - in the dark and we all know how dangerous wolves are at night. :eek:

Below I've pasted what LSG (Lone Star Gridiron) had to say about this game before the season:

Notes:
Longview is loaded with talent on both sides of the ball and it is hard to find any weak spots. They play a very difficult pre-district schedule along with their very tough district schedule so expect an 8-2 or 9-1 finish for the regular season. When the season ends though, expect nothing less than a state championship. Maybe another shot at Austin Lake Travis.

[Txmusic]

JOEC

There was one very big mistake made here - they scheduled this game at night - in the dark and we all know how dangerous wolves are at night

If LVs secondary did not see where the ball was at during last years game in the afternoon than they might need to be wearing miners helmets at 6pm.

[CCDawgs]

lolcove

The fail is strong with this one.

[Ltcav83]

I don't post score predictions, but I will repeat something that I said just after the season started. The LT players play with no fear. I have never seen a team so loose during the games. I am sure this is borne out of confidence that comes with winning their last 45 games.

Longview will be a great challenge for LT. They are a tough, fast and physical team that is hungry for revenge. But there is just something about this LT that just says that they are not afraid of losing. If either of the teams gets awed by the moment, I can tell you that it will not be LT.

[CCDawgs]

I don't post score predictions, but I will repeat something that I said just after the season started. The LT players play with no fear. I have never seen a team so loose during the games. I am sure this is borne out of confidence that comes with winning their last 45 games.

Longview will be a great challenge for LT. They are a tough, fast and physical team that is hungry for revenge. But there is just something about this LT that just says that they are not afraid of losing. If either of the teams gets awed by the moment, I can tell you that it will not be LT.

Ugh. Just say it already! LT will win big! ;):rolleyes:

[BandidoNB]

Ugh. Just say it already! LT will win big! ;):rolleyes:

LT will win big :)

[CCDawgs]

LT will win big :)


+1 :rolleyes:

[JoeC]

JOEC



If LVs secondary did not see where the ball was at during last years game in the afternoon than they might need to be wearing miners helmets at 6pm.


Go ahead and have your laugh now and we'll see who'll be laughing when the fat lady sings.

Playoffs:

The Lobos:
Day playoff games: 14-13 and 28-25 - Margin of Victory: 42-38 (21-19 avg)
Night playoff games: 52-9, 50-26, and 49-28 - MoV: 151-63 (50-21 avg)

Lake Travis:
Playoff run: 58-7, 27-20, 52-13, 27-13, 52-12 - - can you see it, there's a clear pattern here - after a route, this team has problems (not being battle tested) with focus the very next game.

Factor these two things in: LOBOS at night and lake travis following a route and guess what:

THE STREAK COMES TO AN END!!!!
Both of them - LOBOS BABY!!!!!!:eek::ninja::cool::D

[Txmusic]

Joe the fat ladys been singing the LT school song for a year now, If LT wins you will be no where near this site...Just like most of the posters from last yr didn't say much on Sunday.

[Txmusic]

JOE

this team has problems (not being battle tested) with focus the very next game.

If you read the posts from LV fans all yr on different sites you will find a team that there fans know that they do not know which LV team will show up. Because they lose there focus, you have a coach that threw his headset and walked out during a game who lost "Focus"and comes back a few weeks later this yr, had some players sit out because "they could not focus" on being a team player.

Joe nice try but now I will say this game will be over my the 3rd Quarter with LT up big.. I can not wait for Brewer to pass on the little guys in the LV backfield this is going to be better than last yr and I know that is on the LV fans mind..a nightmare sleep well!

[LoboGrad94]

I got this email from John gaston of CBS 19:

YES SIR, WE ARE AIRING THE GAME, AT AROUND 10PM ON SATURDAY NIGHT...MUST BE ONE HOUR AFTER GAME COMPLETION. AND ON SUNDAY AT 1PM.....JOHN GASTON (it will b on MYTX)


The Wolfpack is Coming!!!

[JoeC]

JOE



If you read the posts from LV fans all yr on different sites you will find a team that there fans know that they do not know which LV team will show up. Because they lose there focus, you have a coach that threw his headset and walked out during a game who lost "Focus"and comes back a few weeks later this yr, had some players sit out because "they could not focus" on being a team player.

Joe nice try but now I will say this game will be over my the 3rd Quarter with LT up big.. I can not wait for Brewer to pass on the little guys in the LV backfield this is going to be better than last yr and I know that is on the LV fans mind..a nightmare sleep well!

Man you just don't know - but I can respect that - you've been king of the hill for awhile now and I'd be doing the very same thing if I were in your shoes :notworthy; - but trust me, you will know soon - VERY SOON. None of you guys have any respect for Lobo football - as Aaron Johnson said it best - "They took a little of Lobo pride last year and it's time to take it back". :mad: And if this young man said it - i'd take it to the bank. If coach turned him loose, he could totally wreck an opponent all by himself.

For all of you living on last years leftovers - guess what, it's over. This is a new day - you beat a jr and soph laden team last year - you'll be facing a very different team mindset-wise this time around. Not very many teams can boast they took us out to the wood shed one year and turned around and did it again the next. We'll be ready this year - just you better be; better yet, keep on believing this game will be over in your favor in the third quarter - please, don't give us a snowball chance in hell... :cool:

[JoeC]

Joe the fat ladys been singing the LT school song for a year now, If LT wins you will be no where near this site...Just like most of the posters from last yr didn't say much on Sunday.

No you didn't... We've already lost one - and didn't like the taste; conversely, when was the last time you felt defeat - i'd dare say if you lost, you'd hurt a hell of a lot more than we would. Pleasure and pain has a kindred spirit - it's just that one of them does not make for good company. AS for me, win or loose, I'll be here; but for you If LT lose - I just ask that you show up. ;):cool:

[NeverIsNow]

Joe the fat ladys been singing the LT school song for a year now, If LT wins you will be no where near this site...Just like most of the posters from last yr didn't say much on Sunday.

The same way you were nowhere to be found after you got called out and humiliated for accusing the Longview coach of doing something he didn't? You said you had proof of him saying that Longview was playing down to LT and it didn't matter where we played because we'd win... and when you were shown proof of something else taking place and asked to show YOUR proof, you disappeared for a few months. Good to have you back, I guess.

[NeverIsNow]

The fail is strong with this one.

Why? For laughing at a team that lost to JT by 4 TDS? The same team who lost to Bryan High and A&M Consol LMAO!

[CCDawgs]

Why? For laughing at a team that lost to JT by 4 TDS? The same team who lost to Bryan High and A&M Consol LMAO!

You're full of failure right now.

[NeverIsNow]

You're full of failure right now.

Yeah, because you're trying to delude yourself into pretending those didn't happen? Yeah, thanks for playing.

[CCDawgs]

Yeah, because you're trying to delude yourself into pretending those didn't happen? Yeah, thanks for playing.

http://www.mtvrealityworld.com/files/wild-boyz/steve-o-thumbs1.jpg

[wolfpack4life]

LT will win big :)
:Dhttp://www.uil.utexas.edu/athletics/archives/soccer/state/team_logos/08_09/katy-logo.png

[wolfpack4life]

+1 :rolleyes:
http://dallassouthsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/lions_tuff2.jpg X 4;)

[CCDawgs]

http://dallassouthsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/lions_tuff2.jpg X 4;)

Thats a mean looking lion! :eek: Wish we had some down here! ;)

[JoeC]

Sports Power Ranking and SOS - - of course, it does not mean a whole lot of beans other than very interesting in that Longview beat all three teams just below them and all three have higher strength of schedule than LT.

Ranking - Team Name - State SOS
1 Lake Travis Cavaliers TX 30.71
2 Longview Lobos TX 43.68
3 Waxahachie Indians TX 36.62
4 Guyer Wildcats TX 37.56
5 Midway Panthers TX 34.71
6 Aledo Bearcats TX 30.38
7 Ryan Raiders TX 29.11
8 Highland Park Scots TX 33.81
9 Port Neches-Groves Indians TX 27.56
10 Angleton Wildcats TX 31.13

Like I said, very interesting...:cool:

[Favpack]

Where you been Joe? Haven't see you in a while.

[Shamu85]

Why? For laughing at a team that lost to JT by 4 TDS? The same team who lost to Bryan High and A&M Consol LMAO!

Hmmm. Well, let's see. Georgetown didn't beat anyone except McNeil the last game of the year. I'm STILL picking LT to win. You can laugh at Georgetown all you want. Don't mean a thing to me.

[jcub123]

First time user. Long time reader. First post finally.. Don't know if this has been said but the game is being broad casted online at http://foxsportssouthwest.com/pages/main
:outlaw

[SLC]

Sports Power Ranking and SOS - - of course, it does not mean a whole lot of beans other than very interesting in that Longview beat all three teams just below them and all three have higher strength of schedule than LT.

Ranking - Team Name - State SOS
1 Lake Travis Cavaliers TX 30.71
2 Longview Lobos TX 43.68
3 Waxahachie Indians TX 36.62
4 Guyer Wildcats TX 37.56
5 Midway Panthers TX 34.71
6 Aledo Bearcats TX 30.38
7 Ryan Raiders TX 29.11
8 Highland Park Scots TX 33.81
9 Port Neches-Groves Indians TX 27.56
10 Angleton Wildcats TX 31.13

Like I said, very interesting...:cool:


Just something to consider here, but both Highland Park '07 and Longview '08 had a higher SOS and both HP and Longview had beaten teams directly below them on the rankings, with the exception of Lake Travis for the '07 Scots.

[SLC]

First time user. Long time reader. First post finally.. Don't know if this has been said but the game is being broad casted online at http://foxsportssouthwest.com/pages/main
:outlaw


Welcome to the board my friend. So you're a Mustang fan?

And yes, a Longview fan had posted that it was being broadcasted live online, but thanks for doing so again and posting the link.


Continue posting and tell your friends about this site as well.:)

[jcub123]

Not so much a Mustang fan support them when I can but I actually am living in Waco currently and I also went to St. Michael's in Austin smack in between Westlake and Lake Travis. I just support good football. Thanks for the welcome.

[SLC]

Not so much a Mustang fan support them when I can but I actually am living in Waco currently and I also went to St. Michael's in Austin smack in between Westlake and Lake Travis. I just support good football. Thanks for the welcome.


Awesome. Good stuff.

[CCDawgs]

Hmmm. Well, let's see. Georgetown didn't beat anyone except McNeil the last game of the year. I'm STILL picking LT to win. You can laugh at Georgetown all you want. Don't mean a thing to me.

That was the point I was making to him with my responses. I wasnt all down in the dumps when JT beat us. We were down this year and JT had themselves something special this year. Come Week 12, I turned into a JT fan for there run.

[LoboFan07]

Am up and ready to go.

The talk has been talked. The smack has been smacked. And the only thing left to do is crown a State Championship.

Good Luck to both teams (but not a lot to LT obviously ;) ). Go Lobos.

[BandidoNB]

:Dhttp://www.uil.utexas.edu/athletics/archives/soccer/state/team_logos/08_09/katy-logo.png

We gladly take the Katy loss to our preseason projected finish at the end of this year... 6th in 26-5A :(

[JoeC]

Just something to consider here, but both Highland Park '07 and Longview '08 had a higher SOS and both HP and Longview had beaten teams directly below them on the rankings, with the exception of Lake Travis for the '07 Scots.

How did I know if anyone responded to this it would be you - you old knowledgeable and masterful one: SLC :notworthy - the same one who mysteriously (sarcasm owned) enough chose to leave out SOS (a key factor) in your other analysis as to the outcome of this game. Please do keep in mind though, we are not HP and that last year we were hobbled in the first qtr and as an inexperienced group of young men (to State Championship games specifically), we “simply” panicked – oh yeah – I said it. Thank about it for just one rational moment please self-ordained your highness :notworthy, remove two very key cogs from almost any "Team" (with emphasis please) and there is a great psychological impact on the entire group (what! - a genuine/legitimate excuse). Trust me, there will be no panic this time around - we've had a whole season to play and adjust with these individuals hobbled - no excuse applied for. Oh yeah baby, this year’s group is on a [not to be denied] mission with only one objective in mind: Bring that elusive State Championship back to Longview and East Texas - where HS football is king. I’m cool - You be cool. :cool:

[LoboBooster73]

Time to LOBO Up, Boz!

Unleash the Beast from the East.

Shock the world.

Bring home the title!

[hillcountry]

Was this the slowest week in history? Looking forward to an awesome game! Great game to both contenders! They've earned the right to be here. Be safe, play hard, and leave it ALL on the field. This one will be remembered for a long time!


Trivia - Did you know? — There have been 14 rematches of state championship games the next year in Texas public school history. Out of those games, four have been won by the previous year's loser.


On the air — KKUS-FM (104.1), KFRO-AM (1370), KCUL-AM (1410), KTXZ-FM (95.1), KTXZ-AM (1560). Internet: www.theranch.fm, www.tsrnsports.com, www.FoxSportsSouthwest.com. Replay of the game: MYTX (Cable channel 10 in Longview; satellite channel 18) 9 p.m. Saturday and noon Sunday. The game will also be rebroadcast on Dec. 29 at 11 a.m. on Fox Sports Southwest.


Cavs 42
Lobos 24

[c-lisle]

Well the odds are stacked against the Lobos maybe more than they have ever been. We are playing a team that seems almost invincible going for a 46 game win streak and their 3rd straight state title. I just read a stat that in championship rematch games the loser from the previous year has only won the rematch 4 times. LT is simply stacked with more size and talent than Longview. Those are just the facts. BUT I think Longview will come out and play tenacious D and if they bring their A game they can win. But it will take a colossal effort and IMO it will be a upset if Longview wins. Go Lobos!

[SLC]

How did I know if anyone responded to this it would be you - you old knowledgeable and masterful one: SLC :notworthy - the same one who mysteriously (sarcasm owned) enough chose to leave out SOS (a key factor) in your other analysis as to the outcome of this game. Please do keep in mind though, we are not HP and that last year we were hobbled in the first qtr and as an inexperienced group of young men (to State Championship games specifically), we “simply” panicked – oh yeah – I said it. Thank about it for just one rational moment please self-ordained your highness :notworthy, remove two very key cogs from almost any "Team" (with emphasis please) and there is a great psychological impact on the entire group (what! - a genuine/legitimate excuse). Trust me, there will be no panic this time around - we've had a whole season to play and adjust with these individuals hobbled - no excuse applied for. Oh yeah baby, this year’s group is on a [not to be denied] mission with only one objective in mind: Bring that elusive State Championship back to Longview and East Texas - where HS football is king. I’m cool - You be cool. :cool:


To be honest, in the very last game of the season SOS doesn't need to be included in any analysis of the game, sure it can be added, but all in all it doesn't need to be. Like I said, both HP and Longview had far higher SOS when the matched up against LT and someone forgot to tell the Cavs that it was suppose to effect the outcome of the game. Rest assured though, that I do consider it when making my pick and when running the prediction formula on games.


Now, to your point about being hobbled. I do understand that, as it occured to Carroll in '07 when the best player in the state was lost to a shoulder injury. It certainly effected a team that was on their way to routing Abilene, but injuries are part of the game and hate them or not, teams have to find a way to deal with them.


As far as the game today goes- I wish you luck and have actually been hoping for Longview to win another state title, to bring a trophy to a program I believe is deserving of one. Now, having said that, you have to go out and earn these things, because as we all know, they dont just fall into your lap. Have fun, these are anxious, but fun times when your team makes it to the championship games.

[SLC]

Was this the slowest week in history? Looking forward to an awesome game! Great game to both contenders! They've earned the right to be here. Be safe, play hard, and leave it ALL on the field. This one will be remembered for a long time!


Trivia - Did you know? — There have been 14 rematches of state championship games the next year in Texas public school history. Out of those games, four have been won by the previous year's loser.


On the air — KKUS-FM (104.1), KFRO-AM (1370), KCUL-AM (1410), KTXZ-FM (95.1), KTXZ-AM (1560). Internet: www.theranch.fm, www.tsrnsports.com, www.FoxSportsSouthwest.com. Replay of the game: MYTX (Cable channel 10 in Longview; satellite channel 18) 9 p.m. Saturday and noon Sunday. The game will also be rebroadcast on Dec. 29 at 11 a.m. on Fox Sports Southwest.


Cavs 42
Lobos 24


Excellent first post.:notworthy


Welcome to the board!:)


One thing to add, the game will be aired live online at Fox Sports SW.

[CCDawgs]

Good luck to both teams. Safe travel everyone! Should be a great game! Prediction:

Lake Travis 31
Longview 21

[maxtor]

To be honest, in the very last game of the season SOS doesn't need to be included in any analysis of the game, sure it can be added, but all in all it doesn't need to be. Like I said, both HP and Longview had far higher SOS when the matched up against LT and someone forgot to tell the Cavs that it was suppose to effect the outcome of the game. Rest assured though, that I do consider it when making my pick and when running the prediction formula on games.


Now, to your point about being hobbled. I do understand that, as it occured to Carroll in '07 when the best player in the state was lost to a shoulder injury. It certainly effected a team that was on their way to routing Abilene, but injuries are part of the game and hate them or not, teams have to find a way to deal with them.


As far as the game today goes- I wish you luck and have actually been hoping for Longview to win another state title, to bring a trophy to a program I believe is deserving of one. Now, having said that, you have to go out and earn these things, because as we all know, they dont just fall into your lap. Have fun, these are anxious, but fun times when your team makes it to the championship games.

You are correct. I think that SLC would have smoked Abilene if they didnt lose Rylie Dodge. But thats just tough. Southlake played several top teams during their run that had their star QB or RB out.
OOPS, I called a team that SLC played a "TOP" team.:eek: Man I could get in trouble for that around here.

[SLC]

You are correct. I think that SLC would have smoked Abilene if they didnt lose Rylie Dodge. But thats just tough. Southlake played several top teams during their run that had their star QB or RB out.
OOPS, I called a team that SLC played a "TOP" team.:eek: Man I could get in trouble for that around here.

Careful....The frozen north will come after you for that..:)

[Allstarkaw]

24-10 lt

[Texasfrog]

Lake Travis won it, but they didnt look as sharp as last years State Title Team against Longview.

Longview also had their chances but seemed to always make a killer mistake in vital situations.

Congrats to Lake Travis for being State Champs again. Something tells me we'll probably see ya'll next year again.

[Shamu85]

Very sloppy game on both sides. Penalties, turnovers...LV D played VERY well. They put more pressure on Brewer than just about anyone did this year, and covered the receivers well. LT D came up big, though with stops and forcing the turnover deep for to set them up for their last TD that sealed it. LV never gave up, though. Congrats to both teams. It was fun to watch.

BTW, LT DID NOT look like the best team in the state tonight. I would probably say Abilene claims that one.

[CCDawgs]

Very sloppy game on both sides. Penalties, turnovers...LV D played VERY well. They put more pressure on Brewer than just about anyone did this year, and covered the receivers well. LT D came up big, though with stops and forcing the turnover deep for to set them up for their last TD that sealed it. LV never gave up, though. Congrats to both teams. It was fun to watch.

BTW, LT DID NOT look like the best team in the state tonight. I would probably say Abilene claims that one.

I agree with that. However, I do think LT played the better team out of the two. But comparing both teams, I would probably take Abilene head to head.

But overall, congrats to LT on the 3 peat. Now, go for number 4!

And also, congrats to Longview on a great game and season. I caught the 4th quarter of the game and it seemed like yall never gave up. Great job to both teams. Now go meet for a 3rd straight time! ;)

[Semperfi]

The game was never in doubt for LT. Call it what you want, but LT came with a great game plan and they executed it down to the very last play of the game. LT faces 4th down & goes for it with time on the clock for LV to get the ball back & we throw a long pass completion. That is confidence & greatness combined. Let me add that when our offensive lineman broke his leg during the game, the LV Lobos never even took a knee to show respect for the injured player. That shows the lack of respect, class & discipline the Lobos display. LT brought home #3 and it is well deserved!

[CCDawgs]

The game was never in doubt for LT. Call it what you want, but LT came with a great game plan and they executed it down to the very last play of the game. LT faces 4th down & goes for it with time on the clock for LV to get the ball back & we throw a long pass completion. That is confidence & greatness combined. Let me add that when our offensive lineman broke his leg during the game, the LV Lobos never even took a knee to show respect for the injured player. That shows the lack of respect, class & discipline the Lobos display. LT brought home #3 and it is well deserved!

Well said! Besides for the thing about the injured player.

[LoboBooster73]

The game was never in doubt for LT. Call it what you want, but LT came with a great game plan and they executed it down to the very last play of the game. LT faces 4th down & goes for it with time on the clock for LV to get the ball back & we throw a long pass completion. That is confidence & greatness combined. Let me add that when our offensive lineman broke his leg during the game, the LV Lobos never even took a knee to show respect for the injured player. That shows the lack of respect, class & discipline the Lobos display. LT brought home #3 and it is well deserved!

Whatever. Congrats on win.

By the way, we hadn't taken a knee all year long. Why start now? Ask Whitehouse. Hope the kid gets well, but LGV taking a knee ain't going make him feel any better.

Don't call Lobos' class into question unless you can look in a mirror and not question your own.

[GoLobos]

we have gone over this every game it happens... Longview does not take a knee for either team injuries.... you dont have to like it, but that is the way it is...

off the topic, why was the American flag on the far right flagpole and not on the taller center flagpole? is that protocol when only one flag is flying?

[JoeC]

No you didn't... We've already lost one - and didn't like the taste; conversely, when was the last time you felt defeat - i'd dare say if you lost, you'd hurt a hell of a lot more than we would. Pleasure and pain has a kindred spirit - it's just that one of them does not make for good company. AS for me, win or loose, I'll be here; but for you If LT lose - I just ask that you show up. ;):cool:

First and foremost, Congratulations to Lake Travis :notworthy - you've got a gritty football team and have truly earned my utmost respect; and this is in no way a slight, but not so much your offense but your defense is totally awesome. Usually, we can break a defense down but I must say, your young men would have none of that. My hat's off to you, especially that number 51 (LB) - he is and I am looking for a better word to describe him, a Beast. Does anyone know how many tackles this young man was in on?


LT Offensively:
My hat is off to numbers 16, 13 and 88, for without these young men, I dare say the outcome would have been different. And your quarterback took a vicious beating all night long, yet he kept getting up - he is definitely one tough hombre - as I know you are, be proud of him.

LT Defensively:
Enough said - smart, gritty and very much disciplined; in my humble opinion, the bread and butter of this year’s football team.

The Cons:
Unfortunately, there is always some questionable calls or no calls (officiating) in every game, and this one was no exception. Now as may very well be the case, I may have been a little emotional and thus looking at this from a homer point of view but I truly do not think so; in particular, lineman down field on pass plays and on multiple occasions, a bogus roughing the passer call, the placement/spotting of the ball on a key 4th down conversion late in the third qtr when the score was 17 (LT) 10 (LV) and Longview driving for what would/could have possibly been the game tying score - and momentum shift, but most importantly, the brutally obvious clock management, which clearly took on an eerie bias. All that said, I can't and do not blame this on LT - this is just a product of long standing political ineptitude on the part of an old system and mindset that is dead-set on a slow death. Unfortunately, this has and probably always will be part of this game we love as long as the human element is involved with all of it's frail idiosyncrasies; even still, great football teams will overcome this and simply put, we didn't...

Longview Offensively:
The irony of this game was that LV was still ailing big-time from the beat-down you gave us last year. When Fortson (3) re-aggravated his ankle in the Waxahachie game and Tyler (7) re-aggravated his in the Denton Guyer game, my heart literally dropped into my stomach. Unfortunately, this left Aaron (10) trying to battle his way through a mountain of adversity. Clearly we were not healthy and it leaves you wondering "what if". My hat's off to Carey Fortson, clearly hobbled - yet he still gave it his all. Tyler tried as well but just couldn't do it. And for Aaron, you are simply the best and should never allow defeat to make you lower your head to anyone. The key to success is not how many times you got knocked off your feat, but how many times you get up.

Longview Defensively:
With exception to a few blown coverages, you made us proud. I would be willing to bet my house that LT has a newly found respect for LV and Lobo football going forward. And in the end, that is all you should ask for: RESPECT. There are a whole lot of things we can teach our children and one very important one is: "Winning is not everything".

Synopsis:
Again, Congratulations to LT - playing teams like yours will only make us better. Also, I do not want to sour this defeat any more than it already is with talk of how horrid the officiating was - it's a part of the game and anyway, was much smaller than our blown coverages and turnovers...

To all you LV fans, it's happened again - that elusive State Championship has slipped through our fingers once more. Please do not ruin this great season because of this defeat. From a positive point of view, how many teams can say that they at least "got there": Made it to the big dance. I know its people asking as am I: "Will we ever experience this thrill in our lifetimes"? Odessa Permian (Semis), Plano (Qtrs), Lufkin (Qtrs), Katy (SC), Plugerville (Qtrs) and now LT (SC - - twice in a row). These words are for you: “Be proud of your Lobos - and when you see one or more of them, let them know it”.

Once again, Congratulations to LT, I didn't think you could but you did it again, proving once more, "You Are Simply The Best". :notworthy

[Semperfi]

Whatever. Congrats on win.

By the way, we hadn't taken a knee all year long. Why start now? Ask Whitehouse. Hope the kid gets well, but LGV taking a knee ain't going make him feel any better.

Don't call Lobos' class into question unless you can look in a mirror and not question your own.

I will call the Lobos' class into question along with their respect of others. To have a policy to not take a knee for an injured player is the most classless, disrespectful thing I have ever heard in high school football. It is no wonder that Coach King can't win a State Championship because it is true that you reap what you sow! The injured LT lineman will recover, but he is having surgery & it is a serious injury -- but, of course, you Lobos don't care!

[Shamu85]

I will call the Lobos' class into question along with their respect of others. To have a policy to not take a knee for an injured player is the most classless, disrespectful thing I have ever heard in high school football. It is no wonder that Coach King can't win a State Championship because it is true that you reap what you sow! The injured LT lineman will recover, but he is having surgery & it is a serious injury -- but, of course, you Lobos don't care!

Dude, you have your way of showing respect, others have theirs...get over it and get over yourself. What I saw was very classy actions on the field for both teams. Yes, there were some penalties for late hits/roughing the passer, but neither of them were malicious and could have gone either way. You should go watch a Euless Trinity game if you want to see how NOT to act as a HS football team.

I say LV was very classy. Even the fans stopped their chant as soon as they saw there was a LT player down.

[Semperfi]

Dude, you have your way of showing respect, others have theirs...get over it and get over yourself. What I saw was very classy actions on the field for both teams. Yes, there were some penalties for late hits/roughing the passer, but neither of them were malicious and could have gone either way. You should go watch a Euless Trinity game if you want to see how NOT to act as a HS football team.

I say LV was very classy. Even the fans stopped their chant as soon as they saw there was a LT player down.

I've seen Trinity play twice & did not notice any blatant disrespect! LV showed that common decency is not part of their actions on the field. Sorry to hear you think their actions were "very classy". If I were LV, I would think about changing my policy related to injured players during a game. Taking a knee while injuries are being accessed is really a small gesture of respect that takes very little effort!

[bowiedawgs01]

First and foremost, Congratulations to Lake Travis :notworthy - you've got a gritty football team and have truly earned my utmost respect; and this is in no way a slight, but not so much your offense but your defense is totally awesome. Usually, we can break a defense down but I must say, your young men would have none of that. My hat's off to you, especially that number 51 (LB) - he is and I am looking for a better word to describe him, a Beast. Does anyone know how many tackles this young man was in on?


LT Offensively:
My hat is off to numbers 16, 13 and 88, for without these young men, I dare say the outcome would have been different. And your quarterback took a vicious beating all night long, yet he kept getting up - he is definitely one tough hombre - as I know you are, be proud of him.

LT Defensively:
Enough said - smart, gritty and very much disciplined; in my humble opinion, the bread and butter of this year’s football team.

The Cons:
Unfortunately, there is always some questionable calls or no calls (officiating) in every game, and this one was no exception. Now as may very well be the case, I may have been a little emotional and thus looking at this from a homer point of view but I truly do not think so; in particular, lineman down field on pass plays and on multiple occasions, a bogus roughing the passer call, the placement/spotting of the ball on a key 4th down conversion late in the third qtr when the score was 17 (LT) 10 (LV) and Longview driving for what would/could have possibly been the game tying score - and momentum shift, but most importantly, the brutally obvious clock management, which clearly took on an eerie bias. All that said, I can't and do not blame this on LT - this is just a product of long standing political ineptitude on the part of an old system and mindset that is dead-set on a slow death. Unfortunately, this has and probably always will be part of this game we love as long as the human element is involved with all of it's frail idiosyncrasies; even still, great football teams will overcome this and simply put, we didn't...

Longview Offensively:
The irony of this game was that LV was still ailing big-time from the beat-down you gave us last year. When Fortson (3) re-aggravated his ankle in the Waxahachie game and Tyler (7) re-aggravated his in the Denton Guyer game, my heart literally dropped into my stomach. Unfortunately, this left Aaron (10) trying to battle his way through a mountain of adversity. Clearly we were not healthy and it leaves you wondering "what if". My hat's off to Carey Fortson, clearly hobbled - yet he still gave it his all. Tyler tried as well but just couldn't do it. And for Aaron, you are simply the best and should never allow defeat to make you lower your head to anyone. The key to success is not how many times you got knocked off your feat, but how many times you get up.

Longview Defensively:
With exception to a few blown coverages, you made us proud. I would be willing to bet my house that LT has a newly found respect for LV and Lobo football going forward. And in the end, that is all you should ask for: RESPECT. There are a whole lot of things we can teach our children and one very important one is: "Winning is not everything".

Synopsis:
Again, Congratulations to LT - playing teams like yours will only make us better. Also, I do not want to sour this defeat any more than it already is with talk of how horrid the officiating was - it's a part of the game and anyway, was much smaller than our blown coverages and turnovers...

To all you LV fans, it's happened again - that elusive State Championship has slipped through our fingers once more. Please do not ruin this great season because of this defeat. From a positive point of view, how many teams can say that they at least "got there": Made it to the big dance. I know its people asking as am I: "Will we ever experience this thrill in our lifetimes"? Odessa Permian (Semis), Plano (Qtrs), Lufkin (Qtrs), Katy (SC), Plugerville (Qtrs) and now LT (SC - - twice in a row). These words are for you: “Be proud of your Lobos - and when you see one or more of them, let them know it”.

Once again, Congratulations to LT, I didn't think you could but you did it again, proving once more, "You Are Simply The Best". :notworthy

The spot on that 4th down looked correct to me. Once they put the ball down, I said it was short by 2 inches. It may have been even closer than that, but they put the ball in the right place.

The clock management...I know what you're talking about. But they took forever starting the play clock all night long. It just started to get noticed when it meant more toward the end of the game. My friend and I commented on it early in the game, so at the end when LV was booing the ref, we just said they'd been doing it a lot all night. Annoying? Yes.

[Favpack]

I've seen Trinity play twice & did not notice any blatant disrespect! LV showed that common decency is not part of their actions on the field. Sorry to hear you think their actions were "very classy". If I were LV, I would think about changing my policy related to injured players during a game. Taking a knee while injuries are being accessed is really a small gesture of respect that takes very little effort!

This is a general estimate - I'd say no more than 25% of teams out there take a knee when an opposing player is injured. You're simply way off base with your posting and analysis. Coach King is one of the classiest coaches I know. Prior to playing Lufkin two years ago he sought out our coach who was having heart problems, hugged him and spent several minutes asking of his health.

Again - your entire point is totally off-base.

[Shamu85]

The spot on that 4th down looked correct to me. Once they put the ball down, I said it was short by 2 inches. It may have been even closer than that, but they put the ball in the right place.

The clock management...I know what you're talking about. But they took forever starting the play clock all night long. It just started to get noticed when it meant more toward the end of the game. My friend and I commented on it early in the game, so at the end when LV was booing the ref, we just said they'd been doing it a lot all night. Annoying? Yes.

The slow start of the clock is very indicative that today's officials have quite a lot of difficulty keeping up with no huddle offenses as efficient as LT's. I still don't know whey the umpire does not remain over the ball until the ready signal is given by the referee. That causes a lot of confusion when both teams are lined up and ready to go, and then the referee blows his whistle and signals the ready.

[Semperfi]

This is a general estimate - I'd say no more than 25% of teams out there take a knee when an opposing player is injured. You're simply way off base with your posting and analysis. Coach King is one of the classiest coaches I know. Prior to playing Lufkin two years ago he sought out our coach who was having heart problems, hugged him and spent several minutes asking of his health.

Again - your entire point is totally off-base.

No doubt, my point is spot on! There is nothing classy about teaching kids to disregard player injuries. You can try to dress it up anyway that suits you, but the fact remains that it is rude & disrespectful! I can't fault the players for this because they have obviously been taught this behavior. The LV team played hard & they are a good team. LV had a really good season & should be proud of their accomplishments.

[Favpack]

No doubt, my point is spot on! There is nothing classy about teaching kids to disregard player injuries. You can try to dress it up anyway that suits you, but the fact remains that it is rude & disrespectful! I can't fault the players for this because they have obviously been taught this behavior. The LV team played hard & they are a good team. LV had a really good season & should be proud of their accomplishments.

How about not being so dogmatic? A team does not have to take a knee to show respect for an injured player.

[CCDawgs]

No doubt, my point is spot on! There is nothing classy about teaching kids to disregard player injuries. You can try to dress it up anyway that suits you, but the fact remains that it is rude & disrespectful! I can't fault the players for this because they have obviously been taught this behavior. The LV team played hard & they are a good team. LV had a really good season & should be proud of their accomplishments.

Opinion maybe??

[lobo1982]

I have never heard anyone complain about Longview not taking a knee until this year after the Whitehouse game. We have never taken a knee in the seasons past and nobody has ever complained before. I have seen Longview players hurt and the opposition didn't kneel. This doesn't show poor sportmanship. This topic is getting blown way out of proportion.

[wolfpack4life]

The game was never in doubt for LT. Call it what you want, but LT came with a great game plan and they executed it down to the very last play of the game. LT faces 4th down & goes for it with time on the clock for LV to get the ball back & we throw a long pass completion. That is confidence & greatness combined. Let me add that when our offensive lineman broke his leg during the game, the LV Lobos never even took a knee to show respect for the injured player. That shows the lack of respect, class & discipline the Lobos display. LT brought home #3 and it is well deserved!
Thats a SOCCER rule.

[wolfpack4life]

Very sloppy game on both sides. Penalties, turnovers...LV D played VERY well. They put more pressure on Brewer than just about anyone did this year, and covered the receivers well. LT D came up big, though with stops and forcing the turnover deep for to set them up for their last TD that sealed it. LV never gave up, though. Congrats to both teams. It was fun to watch.

BTW, LT DID NOT look like the best team in the state tonight. I would probably say Abilene claims that one.
Why? because our D was the only one all year that really played them to the limit?

LV isn't good enough to do that huh:cool: If georgetown did it, it would be ok....right.:Censor:

[wolfpack4life]

I agree with that. However, I do think LT played the better team out of the two. But comparing both teams, I would probably take Abilene head to head.

But overall, congrats to LT on the 3 peat. Now, go for number 4!

And also, congrats to Longview on a great game and season. I caught the 4th quarter of the game and it seemed like yall never gave up. Great job to both teams. Now go meet for a 3rd straight time! ;)
lol. no congrats needed from you. I thought we we're gonna get blowed out???

[wolfpack4life]

i will call the lobos' class into question along with their respect of others. To have a policy to not take a knee for an injured player is the most classless, disrespectful thing i have ever heard in high school football. It is no wonder that coach king can't win a state championship because it is true that you reap what you sow! The injured lt lineman will recover, but he is having surgery & it is a serious injury -- but, of course, you lobos don't care!




soccer rule

[wolfpack4life]

I've seen Trinity play twice & did not notice any blatant disrespect! LV showed that common decency is not part of their actions on the field. Sorry to hear you think their actions were "very classy". If I were LV, I would think about changing my policy related to injured players during a game. Taking a knee while injuries are being accessed is really a small gesture of respect that takes very little effort!
lol.

We dont even take knees when our OWN player is hurt. You know why?


BECAUSE THATS A SOCCER RULE.

[wolfpack4life]

This is a general estimate - I'd say no more than 25% of teams out there take a knee when an opposing player is injured. You're simply way off base with your posting and analysis. Coach King is one of the classiest coaches I know. Prior to playing Lufkin two years ago he sought out our coach who was having heart problems, hugged him and spent several minutes asking of his health.

Again - your entire point is totally off-base.
You dont have to explain yourself Fav.

[LoboBooster73]

Moderators,

It's about time to close this thread or ban certain individuals that can't take the high road. It's getting like that Waxahachie vs HP thread abd that one got shut down fast.

[JoeC]

Offer restraint in one's temperment - "Criticize softly and praise loudly"... A sign of a humble man is that he aspires to live by the age-old adage that we ought to be able to "Agree to Disagree"...:cool:

Prov 15:33 (NRSV) The fear of the LORD is instruction in wisdom, and humility goes before honor.

Mat 23:12 (NRSV) All who exalt themselves will be humbled, and all who humble themselves will be exalted.

1 Pet 5:5 (NRSV) In the same way, you who are younger must accept the authority of the elders. And all of you must clothe yourselves with humility in your dealings with one another, for "God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble."

Psa 18:27 (NRSV) For you deliver a humble people, but the haughty eyes you bring down.

Zep 2:3 (NRSV) Seek the LORD, all you humble of the land, who do his commands; seek righteousness, seek humility; perhaps you may be hidden on the day of the Lord's wrath.

Psa 25:9 (NRSV) He leads the humble in what is right, and teaches the humble his way.

Mat 11:29 (NRSV) Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.

Eph 4:1-2 (NRSV) I therefore, the prisoner in the Lord, beg you to lead a life worthy of the calling to which you have been called, 2 with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love,

Col 3:12 (NRSV) As God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience.

1 Pet 3:8 (NRSV) .... all of you, have unity of spirit, sympathy, love for one another, a tender heart, and a humble mind.

[SLC]

Locking it up folks.

There comes a point when you just say congrats to each other and move on.