Politics

[85Roughneck]

I looked and could not find a thread for this so I'll just start a new one ... participate if you want, but if you don't want to please feel free to ignore this thread.

President Obama:
"And we were forced to take those steps largely without the help of an opposition party which, unfortunately, after having presided over the decision-making that led to the crisis, decided to hand it to others to solve."

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20091207/US.Obama.Jobs/

this kind of comment will gain no cooperation from the other side of the aisle.

Obama is driving us further into debt and seems to want to blame it on others. IMO, he is being hypocritical to a certain extent.

[Maroondog]

Did he call the $200 billion in bank paybacks a windfall? Really?

[85Roughneck]

Did he call the $200 billion in bank paybacks a windfall? Really?

as mad as reading the article made me it also gave me a lot of good laughs !!! :D

[BDB]

there was a thread on this, but it got locked.

if the yard is still as hostile as it was before, i predict this one will too.

[RedRage00]

I looked and could not find a thread for this so I'll just start a new one ... participate if you want, but if you don't want to please feel free to ignore this thread.

President Obama:
"And we were forced to take those steps largely without the help of an opposition party which, unfortunately, after having presided over the decision-making that led to the crisis, decided to hand it to others to solve."

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20091207/US.Obama.Jobs/

this kind of comment will gain no cooperation from the other side of the aisle.

Obama is driving us further into debt and seems to want to blame it on others. IMO, he is being hypocritical to a certain extent.

We tried to keep politics to ONE thread but that didn't work....some of the attention wh0res who shall remain nameless, GOOWLS, like to start their own threads.

[the_phoenix612]

Welcome to the most-replied-to thread in the Yard.

http://forums.5atexasfootball.com/showthread.php?t=38573

[yankee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWQFcPEuRJY

[mad_fan]

Obama might be the head coach of Notre Dame come 2013...

[mad_fan]

We tried to keep politics to ONE thread but that didn't work....some of the attention wh0res who shall remain nameless, GOOWLS, like to start their own threads.

That was idiotic and couldn't be followed...It was Obama-like...;)

[4th and 1]

Obama might be the head coach of Notre Dame come 2013...

Coach Barak Hussein Obama?...at Notre Dame?...the Pope might have something to say about that...

[mad_fan]

Coach Barak Hussein Obama?...at Notre Dame?...the Pope might have something to say about that...

In 2013...the Pope might have a simular sounding name...

[4th and 1]

In 2013...the Pope might have a simular sounding name...

I just can't picture the Pope wearing a turban....but you might be right

[85Roughneck]

I just can't picture the Pope wearing a turban....but you might be right

the power and faith of Catholic Christians has been grosely underestimated in the two previous posts ... but I can see the humor in these same posts.

I too take issue with what is happening in Europe. I applaud Sweden for the stand they are taking. (I think it's Sweden or Switzerland :confused:)

[the_phoenix612]

the power and faith of Catholic Christians has been grosely underestimated in the two previous posts ... but I can see the humor in these same posts.

I too take issue with what is happening in Europe. I applaud Sweden for the stand they are taking. (I think it's Sweden or Switzerland :confused:)
switzerland. And as an American, you should abhor it.

[85Roughneck]

switzerland. And as an American, you should abhor it.

As an American I wish to protect what is American and support those that try to eradicate those that would eradicate Americans and the American way ... even the Americans like you who greatly enjoy and utilize the American way while abhoring it. :)

[the_phoenix612]

As an American I wish to protect what is American and support those that try to eradicate those that would eradicate Americans and the American way ... even the Americans like you who greatly enjoy and utilize the American way while abhoring it. :)
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

There is no value more American than those explicitly set forth in the Constitution.

[85Roughneck]

There is no value more American than those explicitly set forth in the Constitution.

agreed, but what stand would you take as someone was pouring hot oil down your throat before they cut your head off? If I saw this happening to you I would do everything in my power to stop it and fight along side you against those that were trying to do that to you. Would you fight back or would you allow them to practice their beliefs and take one for them team?

[the_phoenix612]

agreed, but what stand would you take as someone was pouring hot oil down your throat before they cut your head off? If I saw this happening to you I would do everything in my power to stop it and fight along side you against those that were trying to do that to you. Would you fight back or would you allow them to practice their beliefs and take one for them team?
The point at which a religious practice breaks a United States law is the point at which it loses its legal protection. Until then, they have every right to do whatever the hell they want.

[cougmantx]

This board is going to drive me to native american spiritualism...:D

[85Roughneck]

The point at which a religious practice breaks a United States law is the point at which it loses its legal protection. Until then, they have every right to do whatever the hell they want.

so you'd fight back then while they were trying to kill you right? ... clear that up for me will ya'?

[85Roughneck]

This board is going to drive me to native american spiritualism...:D not a bad call unless it has a radical faction that wants to kill you becasue you and your entire bloodline if you don't believe what they believe. :D

[the_phoenix612]

so you'd fight back then while they were trying to kill you right? ... clear that up for me will ya'?
Are you really insinuating that Islam is inherently trying to kill us/destroy America? Cuz I've got some prime B/CS oceanside property I'm trying to sell if you're interested.

[85Roughneck]

Are you really insinuating that Islam is inherently trying to kill us/destroy America? Cuz I've got some prime B/CS oceanside property I'm trying to sell if you're interested.

not all of Islam, silly. but not even you can deny 9/11 and Bin Ladin and Al Qaeda and so on and so on ... you may be a bit liberal, but you're not insane, stupid, or delusional. Look, we can agree that there's more than meets the eye when it comes to the unrest between the USA and the radical islamic factions, right? When it comes to what Switzerland enacted I agree with their choice to do so. I would like to think that there will not come a day when i have to awake to Muslim morning prayer being played over a loud speaker in Deer Park, TX. In short, there are limits to what a people should expect to change in the American society, IMO.

[BDB]

so if islam is trying to kill america..... what about the far-right terrorists that were behind the oklahoma city bombing?

[the_phoenix612]

so if islam is trying to kill america..... what about the far-right terrorists that were behind the oklahoma city bombing?
shhh. white people can't be evil.

[the_phoenix612]

not all of Islam, silly. but not even you can deny 9/11 and Bin Ladin and Al Qaeda and so on and so on ... you may be a bit liberal, but you're not insane, stupid, or delusional. Look, we can agree that there's more than meets the eye when it comes to the unrest between the USA and the radical islamic factions, right? When it comes to what Switzerland enacted I agree with their choice to do so. I would like to think that there will not come a day when i have to awake to Muslim morning prayer being played over a loud speaker in Deer Park, TX. In short, there are limits to what a people should expect to change in the American society, IMO.
Why, then, is it okay to wake up to church bells? Christianity and Islam are basically the same religion, anyways. Christianity has just reluctantly modernized a bit.

[HUM398]

Why, then, is it okay to wake up to church bells? Christianity and Islam are basically the same religion, anyways. Christianity has just reluctantly modernized a bit.

No they are not.


but of course, i wouldn't expect you to know that...It goes far beyond your knowledge on the subject.

[the_phoenix612]

No they are not.


but of course, i wouldn't expect you to know that...It goes far beyond your knowledge on the subject.
Yes they are. Have you ever read the Koran?

[the_phoenix612]

alright, before this turns into HUM bursting a blood vessel in his brain, let me clarify.

From an outside perspective, Islam and Christianity are distinguishable only by minor details, and Judaism is nearly as close. Don't crap yourselves, guys, I'm not saying Christians are jihadist terrorists.

anymore, at least.

[HUM398]

so if islam is trying to kill america..... what about the far-right terrorists that were behind the oklahoma city bombing?

Terrorism is all the same, no matter which side of the isle the loons decide to base their beliefs in.

1. Loons with distorted view of reality : Check
2. Loons with distorted view of morals : Check
3. Loons with distorted methods of delivering messages: Check
4. Loons with distorted methods of Recruiting: Check
5. Loons that start a group that goes above and beyond its original intention: Check.

If you are a Terrorist....you are scum... Doesn't matter who you call your God.

No matter the name of the creed...Terrorist groups mantras quickly transform into obsession and hatred.

[HUM398]

Yes they are. Have you ever read the Koran?

Yes.

And no they aren't.


Have you ever read the Koran...and i don't mean the excerpts you picked up off of Wiki.

[the_phoenix612]

Yes.

And no they aren't.


Have you ever read the Koran...and i don't mean the excerpts you picked up off of Wiki.
I don't believe you for a second, and yes, although not if you ask an old school muslim.

[the_phoenix612]

Terrorism is all the same, no matter which side of the isle the loons decide to base their beliefs in.

1. Loons with distorted view of reality : Check
2. Loons with distorted view of morals : Check
3. Loons with distorted methods of delivering messages: Check
4. Loons with distorted methods of Recruiting: Check
5. Loons that start a group that goes above and beyond its original intention: Check.

If you are a Terrorist....you are scum... Doesn't matter who you call your God.

No matter the name of the creed...Terrorist groups mantras quickly transform into obsession and hatred.
So you would agree Islamic terrorists aren't really islamic, just obsessed and full of hate? Just like the IRA?

[Firebird]

Why, then, is it okay to wake up to church bells? Christianity and Islam are basically the same religion, anyways. Christianity has just reluctantly modernized a bit.


The more you post, the less I believe that you actually know anything about Christianity.

[the_phoenix612]

The more you post, the less I believe that you actually know anything about Christianity.
lol.

[HUM398]

alright, before this turns into HUM bursting a blood vessel in his brain, let me clarify.

From an outside perspective, Islam and Christianity are distinguishable only by minor details, and Judaism is nearly as close. Don't crap yourselves, guys, I'm not saying Christians are jihadist terrorists.

anymore, at least.

Um...

No.


They are similar in a historical perspective. Muhammad mushed the two religions together, distorted the messages and wallah...a military tool to conquer the middle east.

[Firebird]

lol.

srsly. There's been very little evidence to show it, aside from your proclamations. Most of the time you do attempt to show off some knowledge, it's non-factual.

[HUM398]

So you would agree Islamic terrorists aren't really islamic, just obsessed and full of hate? Just like the IRA?

Yes and No.

[the_phoenix612]

srsly. There's been very little evidence to show it, aside from your proclamations. Most of the time you do attempt to show off some knowledge, it's non-factual.
lol. Keep telling yourself that.

[the_phoenix612]

Um...

No.


They are similar in a historical perspective. Muhammad mushed the two religions together, distorted the messages and wallah...a military tool to conquer the middle east.
almost entirely what I meant. They're also incredibly similar in structure and basic message.

[85Roughneck]

The more you post, the less I believe that you actually know anything about Christianity.

whether he knows much about Christianity or not doesn't matter, IMO, because he is an atheist or agnostic or both. Which is it again, phoenix? I'm cool with you either way I was just wondering.

[HUM398]

So you would agree Islamic terrorists aren't really islamic, just obsessed and full of hate? Just like the IRA?

They are about as Islamic as IRA is Irish.

But they are not a census of what either group represents (well at least what they say the represent)


Islam is a religion born out of the ambition of conquering a region......it has a very violent birth into existence.

[HUM398]

almost entirely what I meant. They're also incredibly similar in structure and basic message.

No they aren't....and it only goes to prove that you have no real knowledge on the subject.

They split at historical.

Really unimpressive feenix....really...

[Firebird]

alright, before this turns into HUM bursting a blood vessel in his brain, let me clarify.

From an outside perspective, Islam and Christianity are distinguishable only by minor details, and Judaism is nearly as close. Don't crap yourselves, guys, I'm not saying Christians are jihadist terrorists.

anymore, at least.

Working off of DNA samples, I would conclude that Alizee and Janet Reno are distinguishable only by "minor details."

[HUM398]

Working off of DNA samples, I would conclude that Alizee and Janet Reno are distinguishable only by "minor details."

i would say that Janet Reno and a mentally ill monkey are distinguishable only by "Minor Details"...Dealing solely off of picture to picture comparison.

[the_phoenix612]

whether he knows much about Christianity or not doesn't matter, IMO, because he is an atheist or agnostic or both. Which is it again, phoenix? I'm cool with you either way I was just wondering.
you can't be both :p and im an atheist.

[the_phoenix612]

No they aren't....and it only goes to prove that you have no real knowledge on the subject.

They split at historical.

Really unimpressive feenix....really...
you're so afraid of being like the a-rabs that you can't admit the similarities?

wow.

[HUM398]

you're so afraid of being like the a-rabs that you can't admit the similarities?

wow.

Wow.

You are so ignorant on the subject you can't even identify this similarities.

Come on Select All, lets see you do it....and lets try to be original....stay away from www.atheistwitdaknowledgeboutdemreligions.com

[the_phoenix612]

Wow.

You are so ignorant on the subject you can't even identify this similarities.

Come on Select All, lets see you do it....and lets try to be original....stay away from www.atheistwitdaknowledgeboutdemreligions.com (http://www.atheistwitdaknowledgeboutdemreligions.com)
Dude, im not claiming they share major tenets, mostly that they share (ostensibly) the same "god", most of their prophets, basic messages about not killing people and the like, a basic set of laws included in their holy texts, and claim the same lands and people as holy.

chillax.

[HUM398]

Dude, im not claiming they share major tenets, mostly that they share (ostensibly) the same "god", most of their prophets, basic messages about not killing people and the like, a basic set of laws included in their holy texts, and claim the same lands and people as holy.

chillax.

That's what i thought.


outside of the historical relation, their is nothing similar about these religions.

Yes, both claim to Serve the God Jehovah...But the message each proclaim is vastly different. It is as if they serve two completely different Gods.

[the_phoenix612]

That's what i thought.


outside of the historical relation, their is nothing similar about these religions.

Yes, both claim to Serve the God Jehovah...But the message each proclaim is vastly different. It is as if they serve two completely different Gods.
not according to the muslims. You just have a corrupted version of the message from a key prophet.

[GoOwls]

Dude, im not claiming they share major tenets, mostly that they share (ostensibly) the same "god", most of their prophets, basic messages about not killing people and the like, a basic set of laws included in their holy texts, and claim the same lands and people as holy.

chillax.

Yes, and most football teams try to score touchdowns to win games....but they get there in so many different ways....;)

[Firebird]

Dude, im not claiming they share major tenets,

mostly that they share (ostensibly) the same "god",

They are both considered to be monotheistic, but the most basic revealed truth of Christianity is the Trinity, which Islam does not recognize or share, and which is the fundamental truth underlying the Christian religion.

most of their prophets,

They both share Old Testament prohpets, with the Jews. There is a basic departure about who the person of Jesus Christ was, which you can not call "minor." In addition, the most important prophet of Islam is not recognized at all by Christians as a prophet. Additionally, they interpret the message of the prophets entirely differently, to the point where it is difficult to call them the same prophets at all.

basic messages about not killing people and the like,

OK.....they both say not to kill people.....

a basic set of laws included in their holy texts,

There is no law in the uniquely Christian text that Christians recognize as their primary authority.

and claim the same lands and people as holy.

Christianity does describe the Middle East as the "Holy Land" because of the events that took place there, and because those lands were for the early part of Christianity the stronghold of the faith. However, there is no equivalent to the cities of Mecca and Medina in the Christian faith, and the practice of the Christian faith is not contingent on the ability to visit Jerusalem or Jerusalem being in Christian hands, unlike Islam. Additionally, the very holiest sites of Islam have nothing to do with anything Christians claim as holy.

chillax.

^^^^^^

Your fail is showing.

[15Adragon]

44% now want Bush back... :ninja:

[chhspantherfan]

anyone wish they were Hilliary's pollster?

[4th and 1]

anyone wish they were Hilliary's pollster?

The stimulus at work... wonder how many pockets that $6million ended up in???

[chhspantherfan]

The stimulus at work... wonder how many pockets that $6million ended up in???

save a couple of jobs, get 6 mil..........any takers?


was this something that anyone could have applied for?

[4th and 1]

save a couple of jobs, get 6 mil..........any takers?


was this something that anyone could have applied for?

Inner circle Pork dinner....suspect this was part of the Sec. of State deal....the Clintons strike again

[the_phoenix612]

South Carolina takes a hard stance on governmental waste and keeps the moral high ground and impeaches Governor Mark Sanford over the Argentina mistress scandal.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/09/no-sanford-impeachment-so_n_386198.html

[JagFan]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/09/obama-nobel-peace-prize-snub


Who is advising Presdent Obama on his travel overseas? It seems every time he goes somewhere there is a social snafu. They need to fix this, they are making him look silly and a man without a clue.