One ISD, two champs???

[mdfootball]

With the possibility of both Katy and Cinco Ranch winning states, has the same ISD ever produced two state champions, even in different classes?

[CCDawgs]

Abilene and Abilene Wylie have a chance this year also!

[abileneeagles311]

Abilene and Abilene Wylie have a chance this year also!
wylie is in their own isd

[AHSeagles]

Abilene and Abilene Wylie have a chance this year also!

Wylie is its own ISD, but I'm not sure the same city has ever produced to champs in one year.

[THE 300]

With the possibility of both Katy and Cinco Ranch winning states, has the same ISD ever produced two state champions, even in different classes?

And would this not then make Katy the only town in all of Texas with a water tower proclaiming two state champeens?

[mummom]

And would this not then make Katy the only town in all of Texas with a water tower proclaiming two state champeens?

Hell no . . . only one team resides in Katy, Texas . . . the other is somewhere in between Houston West and Fulshear East. In other words, NO-MAN'S LAND :p

[trinitytrojansdominate]

And would this not then make Katy the only town in all of Texas with a water tower proclaiming two state champeens?


That would make the regular season game between them next year INTERESTING

[Bruig]

http://forums.5atexasfootball.com/showthread.php?t=59937

Not sure if that particular question was addressed, but the above thread was along the same line.

With the possibility of both Katy and Cinco Ranch winning states, has the same ISD ever produced two state champions, even in different classes?

[CincoDad]

The only High School in the town of Katy is Katy High School. The other 5 school in Katy ISD are in an unicorporated area called the "Katy Area."

The population of the Katy Area far exceeds that of Katy.

The Katy Area Chamber of Commerce lists the populations as:

City of Katy population: 14,000
KISD Area population: 205,531

[THE 300]

Hell no . . . only one team resides in Katy, Texas . . . the other is somewhere in between Houston West and Fulshear East. In other words, NO-MAN'S LAND :p

Last I checked, Katy ISD administration offices are in Katy, Texas (which is, btw, located somewhere between a large outlet mall and and an Igloo plant - interspersed by cows). I would think that if the administration offices are in Katy, then all 6 high schools are from Katy. If not, then that would mean that Katy proper, and schools located in Katy proper were merely benefiting from the tax base generated by the areas outside of Katy proper. And we know that's not true.

[CincoDad]

http://www.texasfootball.com/index.php?s=&change_well_id=2&url_article_id=1439

List of all the state champions if you want to try to research it yourself.

[THE 300]

http://www.texasfootball.com/index.php?s=&change_well_id=2&url_article_id=1439

List of all the state champions if you want to try to research it yourself.

C'mon, Dad. Break it down for us.

"I'm the boss. Need the info." - Dr. Evil

[CincoDad]

C'mon, Dad. Break it down for us.

"I'm the boss. Need the info." - Dr. Evil

Son, just trying to teach you the value of hard work! :D

That or I'm too lazy to try to figure out what school district all those schools were in when they won state titles. :)

[Bass]

Closest occurrence in 5A was in 1995 when Judson and Roosevelt won both divisions out of 26-5A. Judson was D1, Roosevelt D2. Roosevelt (16-0) beat Judson (14-1) in district that year. Both teams weren't in the same ISD, though. Other than that, I don't know if there's ever been a time where two schools in the same ISD won titles in different classifications.

[TX5AFanatic]

If that were too happen then would it finally end the longings for the D1 and D2 state champs to face off? I guess we wouldnt be satisfied since both squads would be losing seniors. Just the same though, I would go to the game just to get the shirt:

This years District champs vs State Champs
Next years D1 Champs vs. D2 Champs

Both an honor and a statement for KISD

[Bass]

It's gonna take some stellar performances this week from both teams to get to the title games, though. And then once they're there it's only gonna get harder.

This is the round I actually believed Katy had a shot at the title last year, though. As soon as I left Rice last year I called my buddy who missed the game and the first words out of my mouth were, "We're gonna win state." There were some excited vulgarities after that, but you get the idea. Let's see if it works out that way again.

[dragonsdaddy]

abilene wylie is in a separate school district from abilene high, so it can't happen. it was an easy mistake to make.

[dragonsdaddy]

and kt can't win because abilene will. i'm just sayin.

[SV61]

1995 if I recall;

San Antonio Roosevelt won the small 5A state Championship, while Converse Judson won the big 5A State Championship.

While not in the same ISD, they both came out of the same UIL district that year.

[cougmantx]

and would this not then make katy the only town in all of texas with a water tower proclaiming two state champeens?


nope...

[rwilleby]

So, IF this happens, we'll be the only ISD with a 5 D1 and D2 Champion in the same year... Right?

[texalaska]

So, IF this happens, we'll be the only ISD with a 5 D1 and D2 Champion in the same year... Right?

I think so, rwilleby.

The two that won that one year Judson and Roosevelt (1995) were from different school districts. Same football district but not school districts.

I believe it would be a first, if it happens.

{remember though, our district is Weak and our region weak too ;)}

[AHS_Mustangs]

Aldine has had 3 of the 4 the schools make it to the State Championship Game: Aldine 1989 & 1990 (Small School Champion), MacArthur is 1993, and Eisenhower in 1999. But, none in the same year

[THE 300]

I think so, rwilleby.

The two that won that one year Judson and Roosevelt (1995) were from different school districts. Same football district but not school districts.

I believe it would be a first, if it happens.

{remember though, our district is Weak and our region weak too ;)}

Let's clarify. Same district, not same town.

[Spartan1]

And would this not then make Katy the only town in all of Texas with a water tower proclaiming two state champeens?

This just means the Cinco people will have one built...right next to the existing one! :eek:

[rwilleby]

Let's clarify. Same district, not same town.

Just to clarify a little more... Everywhere in the district except the lot YOUR house is on... :)

[rwilleby]

This just means the Cinco people will have one built...right next to the existing one! :eek:

I think we take over the Katy Mills water tower...

[Spartan1]

I think we take over the Katy Mills water tower...

They may even lobby to change the name of the mall to Cinco Mills!

[rwilleby]

They may even lobby to change the name of the mall to Cinco Mills!

Works for me, the Mall is a stepchild of a mall too! (Just a joke folks) I'm still eating at your Chick-Fil-A...

[THE 300]

Works for me, the Mall is a stepchild of a mall too! (Just a joke folks) I'm still eating at your Chick-Fil-A...

I thought I told them to keep you out of there!:confused:

You know, all of this success that Cinco is having really has me thinking. Maybe there really is something to the fact that Clayton is a former Katy coach.

Hey, I know! Each year, Dowling should rank the 6 different programs. A "forced ranking", if you will, like they do in the red meat-eating corporate big money places. If your team is last, you're fired and replaced by...

A Katy assistant! Actually, a Katy coordinator. This would, I believe, upgrade the entire district. Hey! Now that is a real idea! Upgrading the entire district is, after all, what we really all want, right? Its no fun to have one or two dominant programs squishing a bunch of poor programs . Just imagine the noise we could make in the playoffs, not to mention raising the overall play of every existing team.

And yes, in the years where we open up a new school, one Katy coordinator would go to the new school and one to the last place program.

Parity in the 1-7-5 is just one easy little decision away. Waddya say?

[mad_fan]

I fully support this if it cuts down on the number of metroplex threads next season...:)

Go Unicorns...:D

[bobcat83]

Closest occurrence in 5A was in 1995 when Judson and Roosevelt won both divisions out of 26-5A. Judson was D1, Roosevelt D2. Roosevelt (16-0) beat Judson (14-1) in district that year. Both teams weren't in the same ISD, though. Other than that, I don't know if there's ever been a time where two schools in the same ISD won titles in different classifications.

While Roosevelt and Judson were in different ISD's the 2 schools boundries are right up against each other.Roosevelt is actually closer to Judson than any other NEISD school.

This would be quite an accomplishment for the Katy area.Didn't Collin County have several state champs last year in different classes or at least finalist's?

[TX5AFanatic]

I thought I told them to keep you out of there!:confused:

You know, all of this success that Cinco is having really has me thinking. Maybe there really is something to the fact that Clayton is a former Katy coach.

Hey, I know! Each year, Dowling should rank the 6 different programs. A "forced ranking", if you will, like they do in the red meat-eating corporate big money places. If your team is last, you're fired and replaced by...

A Katy assistant! Actually, a Katy coordinator. This would, I believe, upgrade the entire district. Hey! Now that is a real idea! Upgrading the entire district is, after all, what we really all want, right? Its no fun to have one or two dominant programs squishing a bunch of poor programs . Just imagine the noise we could make in the playoffs, not to mention raising the overall play of every existing team.

And yes, in the years where we open up a new school, one Katy coordinator would go to the new school and one to the last place program.

Parity in the 1-7-5 is just one easy little decision away. Waddya say?

All for bettering the district, even if its not mine. But remember, someone has to come in last, doesnt mean the team is bad, it may just mean the rest of the district is that good. In KISD...I could see it as a possibility

[Cody]

I thought I told them to keep you out of there!:confused:

You know, all of this success that Cinco is having really has me thinking. Maybe there really is something to the fact that Clayton is a former Katy coach.
Hey, I know! Each year, Dowling should rank the 6 different programs. A "forced ranking", if you will, like they do in the red meat-eating corporate big money places. If your team is last, you're fired and replaced by...

A Katy assistant! Actually, a Katy coordinator. This would, I believe, upgrade the entire district. Hey! Now that is a real idea! Upgrading the entire district is, after all, what we really all want, right? Its no fun to have one or two dominant programs squishing a bunch of poor programs . Just imagine the noise we could make in the playoffs, not to mention raising the overall play of every existing team.

And yes, in the years where we open up a new school, one Katy coordinator would go to the new school and one to the last place program.

Parity in the 1-7-5 is just one easy little decision away. Waddya say?

Being a former Katy HS coach has everything to do with knowing how to build a winning football program. Just look at what Katy ex Svendsen did at Morton Ranch. They had been 1 - 19 in their first 2 seasons under their first HC, Shoemake, who left. In Svendsen's first season, the team won their first 5 games. Next season he is gone (against his will) and the MR team immediately went back to 1 - 9.

[dragonsdaddy]

While Roosevelt and Judson were in different ISD's the 2 schools boundries are right up against each other.Roosevelt is actually closer to Judson than any other NEISD school.

This would be quite an accomplishment for the Katy area.Didn't Collin County have several state champs last year in different classes or at least finalist's?
allen and prosper won, while wylie and celina went to the finals.

[Kat-na-hat]

Last I checked, Katy ISD administration offices are in Katy, Texas (which is, btw, located somewhere between a large outlet mall and and an Igloo plant - interspersed by cows). I would think that if the administration offices are in Katy, then all 6 high schools are from Katy. If not, then that would mean that Katy proper, and schools located in Katy proper were merely benefiting from the tax base generated by the areas outside of Katy proper. And we know that's not true.

True,
dude?:confused:,
Duh
Funny things that you say:p

[Kat-na-hat]

And would this not then make Katy the only town in all of Texas with a water tower proclaiming two state champeens?


Thought I 'splained this already. :rolleyes:

[rwilleby]

Funny how the conversation goes... From the start it was "Two teams from the same ISD"... Not county, city, zip code, street or fence sharers... It's a long, long shot, but a shot never-the-less... The semi business is at hand, then, I hope, we can move to the next game... :)

[JagDad07]

Being a former Katy HS coach has everything to do with knowing how to build a winning football program. Just look at what Katy ex Svendsen did at Morton Ranch. They had been 1 - 19 in their first 2 seasons under their first HC, Shoemake, who left. In Svendsen's first season, the team won their first 5 games. Next season he is gone (against his will) and the MR team immediately went back to 1 - 9.

Don't open that can of worms. I will admit though he did know HOW TO BUILD A WINNING FOOTBALL PROGRAM. Coach Meadows will build a clean winning porogram.

[Hellhound]

With the possibility of both Katy and Cinco Ranch winning states, has the same ISD ever produced two state champions, even in different classes?

Based on this list of former state champions:

http://www.fridaynighthistory.com/uilchamps.html

...it looks like it was only a possibility (2 champs from the same district) from 1990 on.

I'm not familiar with what schools were in what districts. But off the top of my head it looks like Texas City & La Marque both won in 4A the same year (1997). I'd be surprised if they weren't in the same district (since they were both 4A that year).

Look at the link....maybe it will jog some memories & reveal some others. :)

[rwilleby]

But off the top of my head it looks like Texas City & La Marque both won in 4A the same year (1997). I'd be surprised if they weren't in the same district (since they were both 4A that year).

Texas City = TCISD
La Marque = LMISD

[Hellhound]

Texas City = TCISD
La Marque = LMISD

Gotcha, you're right.

.....I was thinking "athletic district", like (26 5A) as opposed to ISD.

[JagDad07]

So this year, we still have the possibility of:

Two state champs from the same school district: Katy and Cinco Ranch

AND

Two state champs from the same city: Abilene and Wylie

Neither of these have ever happened.

[okt0ber]

Last I checked, Katy ISD administration offices are in Katy, Texas (which is, btw, located somewhere between a large outlet mall and and an Igloo plant - interspersed by cows). I would think that if the administration offices are in Katy, then all 6 high schools are from Katy. If not, then that would mean that Katy proper, and schools located in Katy proper were merely benefiting from the tax base generated by the areas outside of Katy proper. And we know that's not true.

A school district and an Incorporated city are two completely different and distinct governmental agencies that have little to do with each other, other than cooperating for police and fire protection. Cinco Ranch is not in the City of Katy, so the City of Katy has no obligation to put them on their water tower. They couldn't, but they don't have to. They really don't have to have Katy on there, either.

There is probably a Municipal Water System (Yet another agency that is seperate from the ISD and City) that serves Cinco Ranch HS that might want to paint their water tower.

[Allstarkaw]

With the possibility of both Katy and Cinco Ranch winning states, has the same ISD ever produced two state champions, even in different classes?
This Is Not By Coinscidence....

I'm Suprised Sam Carter Didn't End Up At Katy...:ninja:

[texalaska]

This Is Not By Coinscidence....

I'm Suprised Sam Carter Didn't End Up At Katy...:ninja:

No it's not by coincidence.....read this thread:

http://forums.5atexasfootball.com/showthread.php?t=60296

there's a coaching connection and Westlake is in that mix too.
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[dada]

This Is Not By Coinscidence....

I'm Suprised Sam Carter Didn't End Up At Katy...:ninja:

Still Stings huh?????...let me rub it in:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/dada4w/dy22.jpg

[Allstarkaw]

I Could Bawl My Eyes Out Right About Now...

But...He Looks Slimmer...