For cowboys fans only....

[Dawg Fan]

please read the title of the thread and try to restrain yourself if you are not a true fan.



You think this game will cement Jones decision to get rid of Phillips. I like him as a defensive coordinator but he sucks as the head coach. The Cowboys are mediocre at best and they are covered up in talent. There are some quality guys out there who could take this team back to the glory days but Jones will probably f*ck it up:mad:

[su4c]

Cowboys defense was crazy good when he took over as DC last year. I want him to stay as DC, but not if it means Garrett takes his spot at the top.

[yankee]

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

[Dawg Fan]

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

OU education....zero comprehension skills

[mojotrain]

Romo is the poorest cowbow QB since John Roach!.

[yankee]

poor wittle dawg fan talks smack, and his team can't back it up. :(
boy it must get old having to cover for your teams. :(

[Dawg Fan]

poor wittle dawg fan talks smack, and his team can't back it up. :(
boy it must get old having to cover for your teams. :(

I am just pointing out the title of the thread and the first post, you obviously can't read or comprehend and that is not a very impressive stat for an OU student.

[Dawg Fan]

Romo is the poorest cowbow QB since John Roach!.

It ain't Romo but his leaders that suck

[the_phoenix612]

am i the only one that thinks that kick hit a giant's helmet first?

[fzone]

think it hit a giant player in the back

[the_phoenix612]

think it hit a giant player in the back
replay just showed it. If Hurd hadn't touched it, it would have taken the same bounce and the boys would have it.

[yankee]

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very impressive for the cowgirls, losing to this inferior new york team. suck it!

[fzone]

Need someone with a J.J. attitude,approach. Maybe Cowher. Anybody else?

[mad_fan]

please read the title of the thread and try to restrain yourself if you are not a true fan.



You think this game will cement Jones decision to get rid of Phillips. I like him as a defensive coordinator but he sucks as the head coach. The Cowboys are mediocre at best and they are covered up in talent. There are some quality guys out there who could take this team back to the glory days but Jones will probably f*ck it up:mad:

Dear Internet Police...

I post where I want...'til banned...then I use a different username...none of that has anything to do with the fact that it's December...
And the Cowboys have left the stadium...

Green Bay Packer Fan...

[mad_fan]

Need someone with a J.J. attitude,approach. Maybe Cowher. Anybody else?

No..."We just need to get rid of TO..."

[su4c]

Need someone with a J.J. attitude,approach. Maybe Cowher. Anybody else?

I doubt Cowher would be willing to take on the Cowboys job.. I also doubt Jerry would be willing to hire someone who's bound to disagree with him on a regular basis.

[Dawg Fan]

Dear Internet Police...

I post where I want...'til banned...then I use a different username...none of that has anything to do with the fact that it's December...
And the Cowboys have left the stadium...

Green Bay Packer Fan...

make your own damn thread

[Dawg Fan]

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very impressive for the cowgirls, losing to this inferior new york team. suck it!

I don't give a rip whether you hate the cowboys or not, make your own thread and type away. :rolleyes:

[Maroondog]

What else did you expect? Its December, let the collapse begin.

[yankee]

I don't give a rip whether you hate the cowboys or not, make your own thread and type away. :rolleyes:

hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha

[mad_fan]

make your own damn thread

I don't feel thank strongly about either team...I'll just use this thread...

[15Adragon]

What else did you expect? Its December, let the collapse begin.

this. They are not even worth comment. OK, one comment. IMO, The game can be summed up with Romo throwing a 4th down pass to Barber short of the first down. What a joke. Why even show up to play like that. OK, more... Barber has dead legs. No bounce or fight. Newman is just done as a high paid corner. He is becoming a nickel back. I would put #70 on the list with Adams and Newman. Out the door. Spencer??? #32????... Roy, Witten and Austin had some nice stats for nothing.

[mad_fan]

make your own damn thread

I (heart) this thread...

[Dawg Fan]

I remember a few years ago when the boys beat the giants both regular season games only to lose in the playoffs to the same giants. kinda hope we get another shot at them

[69matador]

I remember a few years ago when the boys beat the giants both regular season games only to lose in the playoffs to the same giants. kinda hope we get another shot at them

Flozell vs Tuck round 3? LOL

[Favpack]

I see nothing to suggest the Cowboys win in December - no consistency and on-field leadership.

Wade won't be demoted - he'll either be let go or hang on one more year. I'd love to see a Cowher/Dick Leboux reunion or maybe Shanahan - but I'd pick Cowher first.

[the_phoenix612]

I see nothing to suggest the Cowboys win in December - no consistency and on-field leadership.

Wade won't be demoted - he'll either be let go or hang on one more year. I'd love to see a Cowher/Dick Leboux reunion or maybe Shanahan - but I'd pick Cowher first.
I want shanahan.

[RocklandDragon]

I see nothing to suggest the Cowboys win in December - no consistency and on-field leadership.

Wade won't be demoted - he'll either be let go or hang on one more year. I'd love to see a Cowher/Dick Leboux reunion or maybe Shanahan - but I'd pick Cowher first.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Wade Phillips only signed a three year contract.

In three years, Jimmy Johnson had to build a team from near scratch and was able to get to the playoffs and win with a backup QB in 1991.

Wade Phillips has had three years with a talented team and yet December and January victories are fairly elusive. A playoff apperance is not enough to save this man's job. He needs to win at least a playoff game for Jerry Jones to consider giving Wade Phillps another year or two.

San Diego is next. Then at New Orleans, at Washington, and the home finale against the Filthadelphia Iggles.

All these games look difficult. Dallas needs to win two of these games to get in the playoffs (and even then may not be enough).

[SLC93]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Wade Phillips only signed a three year contract.

In three years, Jimmy Johnson had to build a team from near scratch and was able to get to the playoffs and win with a backup QB in 1991.

Wade Phillips has had three years with a talented team and yet December and January victories are fairly elusive. A playoff apperance is not enough to save this man's job. He needs to win at least a playoff game for Jerry Jones to consider giving Wade Phillps another year or two.

San Diego is next. Then at New Orleans, at Washington, and the home finale against the Filthadelphia Iggles.

All these games look difficult. Dallas needs to win two of these games to get in the playoffs (and even then may not be enough).


3 years with a team option for fourth, so it's a 3 year deal. Right or wrong, Wade is gone after this season. To be blunt, it would take a SB appearance to prevent that and Dallas is not getting by New Orleans and Minnesota, should they make they playoffs.

Times were different when Jimmy took over. He had alot of advantages that do not exist today. That said, your point is spot on. JJ took over a dumpster fire. He let it flame out at 1-15, had it in p/o contention on the last day of the season the next year and 11-5 in the playoffs by year 3.

[SLC93]

Romo is the poorest cowbow QB since John Roach!.

I know you're not a fan but don't be that guy. The guy went for 392 yards, 3 touchdowns and no turnovers yesterday. Along the way he compiled a passer rating of 112 and completed 75% of his passes. Yesterday had nothing to do with Tony Romo. He played lights out for the vast majority of that game on the road against a desperate opponent.

[Favpack]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Wade Phillips only signed a three year contract.

In three years, Jimmy Johnson had to build a team from near scratch and was able to get to the playoffs and win with a backup QB in 1991.

Wade Phillips has had three years with a talented team and yet December and January victories are fairly elusive. A playoff apperance is not enough to save this man's job. He needs to win at least a playoff game for Jerry Jones to consider giving Wade Phillps another year or two.

San Diego is next. Then at New Orleans, at Washington, and the home finale against the Filthadelphia Iggles.

All these games look difficult. Dallas needs to win two of these games to get in the playoffs (and even then may not be enough).

Team could very easily go 1-3 through the final stretch - another typical winter stretch for JJ's boys. I think 2-2 would be wildly optimistic. The Charger game sets the tone - if they lose that one it could be a 5 game slide.

[15Adragon]

3 years with a team option for fourth, so it's a 3 year deal. Right or wrong, Wade is gone after this season. To be blunt, it would take a SB appearance to prevent that and Dallas is not getting by New Orleans and Minnesota, should they make they playoffs.

Times were different when Jimmy took over. He had alot of advantages that do not exist today. That said, your point is spot on. JJ took over a dumpster fire. He let it flame out at 1-15, had it in p/o contention on the last day of the season the next year and 11-5 in the playoffs by year 3.

Wade is gone. Too many agendas at Valley Ranch. Too many chiefs. I just hope Jerry sends an aging CB and a couple of O-lineman with him. At least with rookies fighting for a check and a future we could have something to look forward too. Who knows. As an organization, we are the Raiders. How long since a PO win? BTW, we now have lost tie breakers to NY and GB. Yep I am all the way under the bus now.

We could still turn it around but I agree it is tough to think about beating NO or Minn on the road in the PO's and that is the ultimate goal. This organization needs fresh leadership. How do you keep finding a way to lose important games?

[fzone]

Chargers game is a must win. There's no need worrying about NO or Minn. in the playoffs yet. Cowboys need to win the division first. Philly and NY also have tough games to play.
Giants Eagles
Phi @ NYG
@Was SF
Car Den
@Minn @Dal
If Cowboys win only two of four, they'll need help from other teams. Gonna be tough.

[CCCSportsFan]

Team could very easily go 1-3 through the final stretch - another typical winter stretch for JJ's boys. I think 2-2 would be wildly optimistic. The Charger game sets the tone - if they lose that one it could be a 5 game slide.

In my most optimistic opinion, I thought we could go 3-2 down the stretch with the losses to New Orleans and San Diego. Realistically I thought we'd loose one out of the 3 against the Giants, Washington and the Eagles.

This morning, going 2-2 the rest of the way would be a gift. The tone set yesterday will be tough to get out of the players psyche...

[Dawg Fan]

The fact is they have the talent to beat anyone in this league. Week after week you see a reflection of the coach in the demeanor of this team and the fact that Romo went to Vegas after thanksgiving shows he isn't that serious about winning in a Cowboy uniform. I am sick of the "aw shucks" and "dang" head coach and would love to see some actual discipline and emotion from this team. I love the cowboys but Jones has just about pushed me away and I didn't think that was possible. Garrett has not really shown any special ability to call offensive plays. The Boys look a lot like they did when Zampeze was here and he was the worst offensive coordinator I can remember. I am so sick of the third and 10, 2 yard pass and then punt. The boys are the undisputed kings of that and why can't we design blitzes like the eagles or steelers? Get someone in there that can use the talent we have and give them the confidence to win.:(

[SV61]

The Giants loss on Sunday, was not Romo's fault, IMO (for a change). Romo had a pretty good day for the most part. Throwing a one yard pass to Barber when you need two isn't the smartest thing, but Romo did not lose this game.

The defense got complacent toward the end of the 2nd quarter. NY scored. Then, Dallas fumbled (the fumble was in Barber's hands, but I point to the Lineman who missed his block just as much as Barber), and you could SEE the mo jump over to the NY side. The fight at the end of the half just made NY that much more pissed.

Dallas needs to get nasty, and I just don't see that with Wade in the first seat.

[CCCSportsFan]

The Giants loss on Sunday, was not Romo's fault, IMO (for a change). Romo had a pretty good day for the most part. Throwing a one yard pass to Barber when you need two isn't the smartest thing, but Romo did not lose this game.

The defense got complacent toward the end of the 2nd quarter. NY scored. Then, Dallas fumbled (the fumble was in Barber's hands, but I point to the Lineman who missed his block just as much as Barber), and you could SEE the mo jump over to the NY side. The fight at the end of the half just made NY that much more pissed.

Dallas needs to get nasty, and I just don't see that with Wade in the first seat.

You could see it coming from them. Instead of going for the kill, they let down just enough to blow a 10-0 lead with 3 minutes to go in the half.

[15Adragon]

The Giants loss on Sunday, was not Romo's fault, IMO (for a change). Romo had a pretty good day for the most part. Throwing a one yard pass to Barber when you need two isn't the smartest thing, but Romo did not lose this game.

The defense got complacent toward the end of the 2nd quarter. NY scored. Then, Dallas fumbled (the fumble was in Barber's hands, but I point to the Lineman who missed his block just as much as Barber), and you could SEE the mo jump over to the NY side. The fight at the end of the half just made NY that much more pissed.

Dallas needs to get nasty, and I just don't see that with Wade in the first seat.

The 1 yard pass on 4th down looked like a give up to me. Instead of scrambling around and trying to make something happen, he dumped it off real early to Barber who had his back to the D and no momentum. He turned around and was tackled. Ugly play.

That was Davis who missed the block on Barbers fumble and Adams who started the fight just before halftime. Newman runs faster backwards than he does forward. I bet their salaries total almost 20M between the 3 of them. hmmmm....

I did like Jenkins, Brooking, Ratliff and all of the receivers except Bennett.
Jenkins is a real find. He has a great future.

With Ware and Ratliff getting double teamed where was the rest of the D-line?

[KLH75287]

I know you're not a fan but don't be that guy. The guy went for 392 yards, 3 touchdowns and no turnovers yesterday. Along the way he compiled a passer rating of 112 and completed 75% of his passes. Yesterday had nothing to do with Tony Romo. He played lights out for the vast majority of that game on the road against a desperate opponent.

I'm no Romo fan by any stretch of the imagination, but he is not to blame for yesterday's clutching defeat from the jaws of victory. All in all the O looked better than expected, barring the key Barber fumble and Garrett's inability to throw away the wildcat / razorback offense that gained 0 yards.

As far as Wade staying on as DC, it was his D that made no adjustments and got spanked yesterday against the struggling Giants. They were all over the board, and got picked apart.

The offense turned in great numbers. The Boyz dominated time of possession. The D gave up too many big plays.

The rest of December looks bleak, but I'll still be pulling for them every week until it's over.

[fzone]

The defense got complacent toward the end of the 2nd quarter. NY scored. Then, Dallas fumbled (the fumble was in Barber's hands, but I point to the Lineman who missed his block just as much as Barber), and you could SEE the mo jump over to the NY side. The fight at the end of the half just made NY that much more pissed.

Agree, the lineman missed his block but, you still need to hold on the ball especially right after the Giants had scored. Remember Swervin Curvin, they should have sat Barber down. I'm not saying cut him, just sit him down.Mo definitely changed. Boys' only rushed for 45yds on 23 carries, that does not help.

[SLC93]

The fact is they have the talent to beat anyone in this league. Week after week you see a reflection of the coach in the demeanor of this team and the fact that Romo went to Vegas after thanksgiving shows he isn't that serious about winning in a Cowboy uniform. I am sick of the "aw shucks" and "dang" head coach and would love to see some actual discipline and emotion from this team. I love the cowboys but Jones has just about pushed me away and I didn't think that was possible. Garrett has not really shown any special ability to call offensive plays. The Boys look a lot like they did when Zampeze was here and he was the worst offensive coordinator I can remember. I am so sick of the third and 10, 2 yard pass and then punt. The boys are the undisputed kings of that and why can't we design blitzes like the eagles or steelers? Get someone in there that can use the talent we have and give them the confidence to win.:(


Dawg,

I understand your frustration. I'm with you but dont be that guy. He was in Vegas for 16 hours at a Charity event with a teammate. He got treatment before he left and was back in the trainer's room on Saturday morning. Further more, he played a tremendous game. Miles had 10 catches for over a hundred yards and a td. That Vegas trip is a complete nonissue and reflective of nothing.

[15Adragon]

Dawg,

I understand your frustration. I'm with you but dont be that guy. He was in Vegas for 16 hours at a Charity event with a teammate. He got treatment before he left and was back in the trainer's room on Saturday morning. Further more, he played a tremendous game. Miles had 10 catches for over a hundred yards and a td. That Vegas trip is a complete nonissue and reflective of nothing.

I agree, but it is one more thing. You are the QB of a team that has folded down the stretch for the last couple of years and oh yea there was the trip to Mexico before the PO game with the Giants... This should be a non-issue, but given the recent history it will be discussed.

[Maroondog]

The fact is they have the talent to beat anyone in this league. Week after week you see a reflection of the coach in the demeanor of this team and the fact that Romo went to Vegas after thanksgiving shows he isn't that serious about winning in a Cowboy uniform. I am sick of the "aw shucks" and "dang" head coach and would love to see some actual discipline and emotion from this team. I love the cowboys but Jones has just about pushed me away and I didn't think that was possible. Garrett has not really shown any special ability to call offensive plays. The Boys look a lot like they did when Zampeze was here and he was the worst offensive coordinator I can remember. I am so sick of the third and 10, 2 yard pass and then punt. The boys are the undisputed kings of that and why can't we design blitzes like the eagles or steelers? Get someone in there that can use the talent we have and give them the confidence to win.:(

I don't believe that Dallas has superior talent to everybody in the league. The parity is evident each week and teams like N.O. can get on a roll.

That being said, Wade has never been able to take a team beyond mediocrity and he never will. He is probably gone regardless of what happens the rest of the way.
But, so what? Jerry will hire another puppet, not an actual coach with any authority. This organization is the definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

Keep in mind that 20 years ago before Jerry became the football expert he thinks he is today, he had a strong coach with authority, who could evaluate talent and definitely get players off their arse and play every week. Then Jerry became an expert, and after the players that Jimmy assembled won 3 Super Bowls, absolutely nothing has happened since except to slide downhill.

That was a long time ago my friends.

I keep saying, until this franchise changes ownership, do not expect anything but the same because when you keep doing what your doing, you keep getting what you're getting.

[CCCSportsFan]

I don't believe that Dallas has superior talent to everybody in the league. The parity is evident each week and teams like N.O. can get on a roll.

That being said, Wade has never been able to take a team beyond mediocrity and he never will. He is probably gone regardless of what happens the rest of the way.
But, so what? Jerry will hire another puppet, not an actual coach with any authority. This organization is the definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

Keep in mind that 20 years ago before Jerry became the football expert he thinks he is today, he had a strong coach with authority, who could evaluate talent and definitely get players off their arse and play every week. Then Jerry became an expert, and after the players that Jimmy assembled won 3 Super Bowls, absolutely nothing has happened since except to slide downhill.

That was a long time ago my friends.

I keep saying, until this franchise changes ownership, do not expect anything but the same because when you keep doing what your doing, you keep getting what you're getting.

Unfortunately I don't see JJ selling the team any time soon. The best thing that can happen if this is true is for Stephen Jones to take control of the team. I read last spring that Jerry is giving him more and more authority as time goes on, so hopefully that continues until Stephen is calling the coaching shots.

[E-Vol-ution]

So then a mini Steinbrenner in the making...........:notworthyUnfortunately I don't see JJ selling the team any time soon. The best thing that can happen if this is true is for Stephen Jones to take control of the team. I read last spring that Jerry is giving him more and more authority as time goes on, so hopefully that continues until Stephen is calling the coaching shots.

[CCCSportsFan]

So then a mini Steinbrenner in the making...........:notworthy

Unfortunately Jerry has always said he's keeping this "family" business forever!

If he any intention of selling the team in the short term, do you think he would have built the new stadium??

[SLC93]

Unfortunately I don't see JJ selling the team any time soon. The best thing that can happen if this is true is for Stephen Jones to take control of the team. I read last spring that Jerry is giving him more and more authority as time goes on, so hopefully that continues until Stephen is calling the coaching shots.

When Stephen is running this franchise we'll be back on track. He is extremely well thought of in the league.

[SLC93]

So then a mini Steinbrenner in the making...........:notworthy

Perhaps .... We'll see soon enough because this league is losing it's salary cap and it's not going to come back in a form anywhere near what's been, if at all. When Jerry can go out and buy the best team with his money on an annual basis, only then can he be a Steinbrenner.:D

[SLC93]

Unfortunately Jerry has always said he's keeping this "family" business forever!

If he any intention of selling the team in the short term, do you think he would have built the new stadium??

The Jones family will own the Cowboys for decades to come. They are too strong running a business that makes money hand over fist. With the new stadium, they are only going to get stronger. Folks need to remember, JOnes the owner is one of the best. Jones the owner's only fault is his inability to fire his GM, who is one of the worst.

[CCCSportsFan]

When Stephen is running this franchise we'll be back on track. He is extremely well thought of in the league.

That's what the article mentioned... Parcells thinks very highly of him it said too.

[SLC93]

That's what the article mentioned... Parcells thinks very highly of him it said too.

He's very good. Think of how he's mastered the salary cap. The Cowboys always have a little room, at least, despite Jerry overpaying for everyone except Ware and Romo. He's also noted for being able to lead, evaluate talent and command respect. He's a pro and, unlike Jerry, actually grew up in the business. He's been with the Cowboys since his last year in college.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

No..."We just need to get rid of TO..."

Well, truth be told, they are better as a team without him. You don't hear any fingerpointing when something goes wrong. Not to mention, there's no telling how many interceptions Tony would have, if Terrell was still here. Tony only has 7, thru 12 games this year. Last year, Tony only played in 13 games, and he had 19 interceptions.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Unfortunately I don't see JJ selling the team any time soon. The best thing that can happen if this is true is for Stephen Jones to take control of the team. I read last spring that Jerry is giving him more and more authority as time goes on, so hopefully that continues until Stephen is calling the coaching shots.

Well, I've heard rumors that, Stephen was the one who pulled the plug on Terrell. I've always liked Stephen myself!

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

That's what the article mentioned... Parcells thinks very highly of him it said too.

Jimmy Johnson also thinks the world of Stephen and has said on many occasions, that Stephen will do a great job when he takes over.

Jimmy and Jerry has also been in conversation with each other. HMMMM....

[Maroondog]

The Jones family will own the Cowboys for decades to come. They are too strong running a business that makes money hand over fist. With the new stadium, they are only going to get stronger. Folks need to remember, JOnes the owner is one of the best. Jones the owner's only fault is his inability to fire his GM, who is one of the worst.

Yes, but until Jerry gets out of the way, its the status quo.

[CCCSportsFan]

Jimmy Johnson also thinks the world of Stephen and has said on many occasions, that Stephen will do a great job when he takes over.

Jimmy and Jerry has also been in conversation with each other. HMMMM....

Recently??? Gosh, you could let your imagination run wild on the possible topics!

[15Adragon]

Recently??? Gosh, you could let your imagination run wild on the possible topics!

I like where this is going.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Recently??? Gosh, you could let your imagination run wild on the possible topics!

Yes, recently! It hasn't been said what the conversations have been about but, one can only wonder. I do know, that they have put their differences aside as well.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

I like where this is going.

You and me both!:D

[Dawg Fan]

Dawg,

I understand your frustration. I'm with you but dont be that guy. He was in Vegas for 16 hours at a Charity event with a teammate. He got treatment before he left and was back in the trainer's room on Saturday morning. Further more, he played a tremendous game. Miles had 10 catches for over a hundred yards and a td. That Vegas trip is a complete nonissue and reflective of nothing.


:o I just heard he went to Vegas and I assumed he went to party. My bad, but you are right, I am damn frustrated.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

:o I just heard he went to Vegas and I assumed he went to party. My bad, but you are right, I am damn frustrated.

Some of the media has made it out to seem like it was a party but, you know how that is.

But, after the game that Tony had yesterday, no one has brought it up...yet. But, there have been those who blame yesterday's loss on him.

[15Adragon]

You and me both!:D

Where did you hear that they have been talking? I wonder if he is tired of drinking beer and fishing all day? I wonder if he can still do it? Have the HC salaries reached a point where Jimmy is thinking about 4 years of Bill Parcells money?

The NFL is a young man's game. A real grind to coach in the NFL. I think they may dance a couple of songs but in the end it will be hard for their ego's to coexist and they may know it...

[15Adragon]

Some of the media has made it out to seem like it was a party but, you know how that is.

But, after the game that Tony had yesterday, no one has brought it up...yet. But, there have been those who blame yesterday's loss on him.

Except the knuckleheads on the NBC pre-game last night. They were talking about it so I changed the channel. I agree that it is a non-issue and it only gets discussed b/c of recent history. Another dang reason to end all of this by winning some big games.

[SLC93]

Where did you hear that they have been talking? I wonder if he is tired of drinking beer and fishing all day? I wonder if he can still do it? Have the HC salaries reached a point where Jimmy is thinking about 4 years of Bill Parcells money?

The NFL is a young man's game. A real grind to coach in the NFL. I think they may dance a couple of songs but in the end it will be hard for their ego's to coexist and they may know it...

As warm as those memories are this one ain't getting a sequel. Jimmy loves what he is doing now and the life it allows him to lead.

[mojotrain]

It ain't Romo but his leaders that suck

I think the lad is having some problems other than his coach. When it is open he just isn't getting it. It's great one time and not the next. Thats 50 percent. Less in December.

[SLC93]

Not sure what you mean since he's sporting a 96% passer rating, completing 63% of his throws, is on pace for 4,000 yard and has almost a 3/1 int to td ration this year.

[mojotrain]

Not sure what you mean since he's sporting a 96% passer rating, completing 63% of his throws, is on pace for 4,000 yard and has almost a 3/1 int to td ration this year.

Well then I don't know who to give credit to, him or the coach for the fact that the cowboys are leading/tied for the division.:)

I heard some of the big guys mention he always failed in December. So can you run up his Dec. stats for the last few years?

[CCCSportsFan]

As warm as those memories are this one ain't getting a sequel. Jimmy loves what he is doing now and the life it allows him to lead.

Unfortunately I think you are correct... Jimmy is to set in his ways and I don't think could tolerate the situation more than a couple of months. Unless Jerry got completely out of the way, but I just don't see that happening soon.

[SLC93]

Well then I don't know who to give credit to, him or the coach for the fact that the cowboys are leading/tied for the division.:)

I heard some of the big guys mention he always failed in December. So can you run up his Dec. stats for the last few years?

I'll put them up for you in the morning. They are off from his Sept-Nov numbers but I don't put that all on him. In 2006, he was in his first season as the starter or even seeing the field. More importantly, his defense was giving up 36 points a game. 07 is on him, despite TO's high ankle sprain. They did have everything wrapped up, division & bye, though. Last season he was beat to hell, playing with a bad finger, a bad back and a bad set of ribs. My point is, it's not all on him. I don't even think it's mostly on him.

[twcpfan1]

The thread title might as well read

" I've posted nekkid pics of my girlfriend but my female friends are the only ones allowed to look "

Did you seriously think the non cowboy fans would not weigh in on a thread with that title?

Oh before I go... Giants Baby !!! :D

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Where did you hear that they have been talking? I wonder if he is tired of drinking beer and fishing all day? I wonder if he can still do it? Have the HC salaries reached a point where Jimmy is thinking about 4 years of Bill Parcells money?

The NFL is a young man's game. A real grind to coach in the NFL. I think they may dance a couple of songs but in the end it will be hard for their ego's to coexist and they may know it...

It was about a month or 2 ago, when Jimmy said on TV, that he and Jerry were keeping in touch. Of course, that could mean that they're just friends, you know!

[SLC93]

The thread title might as well read

" I've posted nekkid pics of my girlfriend but my female friends are the only ones allowed to look "

Did you seriously think the non cowboy fans would not weigh in on a thread with that title?

Oh before I go... Giants Baby !!! :D

or

" Hey, 93! Hope Solo's misplaced her clothes but is still wearing her shin guards and gloves. Too bad you're not invited!"

You know I'm crashing that party.

[Dawg Fan]

The thread title might as well read

" I've posted nekkid pics of my girlfriend but my female friends are the only ones allowed to look "

Did you seriously think the non cowboy fans would not weigh in on a thread with that title?

Oh before I go... Giants Baby !!! :D

I find it funny that the Giant fans are incapable of starting their own thread. I was interested in true fans opinions but the juvenile antics of the haters shine right through. Impressive:rolleyes:

[Favpack]

Cowboys move to 7-12 under Romo in December. This year will be different? I don't see it.

[CCCSportsFan]

Cowboys move to 7-12 under Romo in December. This year will be different? I don't see it.

I'm "hoping" it will be different, but my logic says it's gonna be a continuation of the annual December train wreck :(

[Favpack]

I'm "hoping" it will be different, but my logic says it's gonna be a continuation of the annual December train wreck :(

San Diego - win
At NO - loss
at Wash - loss
Philly - ??

I see a best case scenario as 2-2, wildly optimistic would be 3-1. And, let's be honest - do you see this team winning at Minnesota or NO - in a dome, come January? No way.

[SLC93]

San Diego - win
At NO - loss
at Wash - loss
Philly - ??

I see a best case scenario as 2-2, wildly optimistic would be 3-1. And, let's be honest - do you see this team winning at Minnesota or NO - in a dome, come January? No way.

I think they are fully capable of shedding this December nonsense. That said, I'm with you on Minn/NO in January thing.

[SV61]

Is this the game, where we are going to look back, and say:

THAT is when the Giants woke back up.

OR,

Is Dallas beginning the self destruction again?

I haven't looked at all the scenarios, but it won't surprise me if these two teams might meet again this season.

Dallas wasn't all that far off on Sunday. It wasn't Romo's fault. If Dallas had made it to the Lockeroom without self destructing before the half, we wouldn't be having these discussions.

The next two weeks will tell a lot, to me.

I ain't jumpin YET.

[SLC93]

Is this the game, where we are going to look back, and say:

THAT is when the Giants woke back up.

OR,

Is Dallas beginning the self destruction again?

I haven't looked at all the scenarios, but it won't surprise me if these two teams might meet again this season.

Dallas wasn't all that far off on Sunday. It wasn't Romo's fault. If Dallas had made it to the Lockeroom without self destructing before the half, we wouldn't be having these discussions.

The next two weeks will tell a lot, to me.

I ain't jumpin YET.

I agree with you. Ny won that game, period. That said Dallas played very well for all but about 3 minutes of that game. As a result, NY scores 31 points. Amazing. Romo has turned the corner, though. We're about to play our 13th game and he has 7 interceptions, 3 of which came in game 1. He's taking that next step. Will his team follow?

[CCCSportsFan]

San Diego - win
At NO - loss
at Wash - loss
Philly - ??

I see a best case scenario as 2-2, wildly optimistic would be 3-1. And, let's be honest - do you see this team winning at Minnesota or NO - in a dome, come January? No way.

On paper and with my homer hat on, they "should" win all these games except New Orleans. The Saints are just playing so good right now.

Realistically, they lose the Saints game and then either to the Chargers or Eagles. They just can't lose these 3 games or it's another massive December melt down!

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Is this the game, where we are going to look back, and say:

THAT is when the Giants woke back up.

OR,

Is Dallas beginning the self destruction again?

I haven't looked at all the scenarios, but it won't surprise me if these two teams might meet again this season.

Dallas wasn't all that far off on Sunday. It wasn't Romo's fault. If Dallas had made it to the Lockeroom without self destructing before the half, we wouldn't be having these discussions.

The next two weeks will tell a lot, to me.

I ain't jumpin YET.

This!

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

I agree with you. Ny won that game, period. That said Dallas played very well for all but about 3 minutes of that game. As a result, NY scores 31 points. Amazing. Romo has turned the corner, though. We're about to play our 13th game and he has 7 interceptions, 3 of which came in game 1. He's taking that next step. Will his team follow?

All of this!

Romo really has turned the corner, like he said he would. Only 7 interceptions going into week 13 this year, with 22 touchdowns and, last year, you know he only played in 13 games. He had 19 interceptions in those 13 games last year, with 29 touchdowns! That's a huge drop in the turnover department!

But, that's irrelevant with some people.

[E-Vol-ution]

hey.....all of us Giant fans don't just sit around waiting to dump on the Cowboys......and that was you who made a Giants suck thread on your own.
That was a juvenile antic.......don't try to be grown up now.
I find it funny that the Giant fans are incapable of starting their own thread. I was interested in true fans opinions but the juvenile antics of the haters shine right through. Impressive:rolleyes:

[SLC93]

All of this!

Romo really has turned the corner, like he said he would. Only 7 interceptions going into week 13 this year, with 22 touchdowns and, last year, you know he only played in 13 games. He had 19 interceptions in those 13 games last year, with 29 touchdowns! That's a huge drop in the turnover department!

But, that's irrelevant with some people.

Folks need to wake up. His yards per game is up over last year. His completion percentage is up over last year. His yards per attempt is up. His int's a way down. The big concern when TO was released was the big play. He has more 20+ yard completions and more 40+ yard completions this season than last in one less game. He's very good. I want us to win in December as bad as anyone for many reasons. The biggest is so this nonsense about Romo can't win will end. How many times are we gonna do this with how many qb's before we realize it's hysterical behavior? Elway couldn't win the big one. Neither could Young. The Mannings were suspect. Hell, we labeled Peyton in college! Bradshaw was too dumb to win the big one. Favre was too wild to win the big one. On and on it goes and it's just silly.

[SLC93]

Additionally, his passer rating in the last 2 minutes of the half is over 100. It's also higher in the fourth quarter than the 1st and third, over 100. It's also better on the road than at home.

Just get those December wins and a advance a round in the playoff this season. Then he be considered a good quarterback.

[mad_fan]

Folks need to wake up. His yards per game is up over last year. His completion percentage is up over last year. His yards per attempt is up. His int's a way down. The big concern when TO was released was the big play. He has more 20+ yard completions and more 40+ yard completions this season than last in one less game. He's very good. I want us to win in December as bad as anyone for many reasons. The biggest is so this nonsense about Romo can't win will end. How many times are we gonna do this with how many qb's before we realize it's hysterical behavior? Elway couldn't win the big one. Neither could Young. The Mannings were suspect. Hell, we labeled Peyton in college! Bradshaw was too dumb to win the big one. Favre was too wild to win the big one. On and on it goes and it's just silly.

This post wouldn't fly in the college forum...:rolleyes:

[SLC93]

This post wouldn't fly in the college forum...:rolleyes:

Probably not but how ridiculous is it that Peyton Manning was doubted and ridiculed because he couldn't beat Florida? How's that look now? We're in such a rush to quantify and label we completely forget that careers, for the most part, span time and have a scope to them. Just because a guy comes out on the wrong end a few times does not mean he always will, most especially when that person often performs well.

[mad_fan]

Probably not but how ridiculous is it that Peyton Manning was doubted and ridiculed because he couldn't beat Florida? How's that look now? We're in such a rush to quantify and label we completely forget that careers, for the most part, span time and have a scope to them. Just because a guy comes out on the wrong end a few times does not mean he always will, most especially when that person often performs well.

Who??? :rolleyes:

[SLC93]

Who??? :rolleyes:

Our society. Speaking in generalities here, Mad. Help me to help you.

[Dawg Fan]

hey.....all of us Giant fans don't just sit around waiting to dump on the Cowboys......and that was you who made a Giants suck thread on your own.
That was a juvenile antic.......don't try to be grown up now.

make your own thread then and the giants do suck, that isn't juvenile, it is a fact:p

[E-Vol-ution]

The Cowboys are "suckier"........:D
make your own thread then and the giants do suck, that isn't juvenile, it is a fact:p

[Point Made...]

As a true blue cowboy fan, the only thing I'm going to say is this...

The roller-coaster ride of mediocrity needs to stop sooner-than-later...this ride has become freak'n nauseating...

I'm starting to look more-and-more in the direction of the OC, and his inept ability to call offensive plays...l stand corrected, his play calling has been nothing short of offensive.

Where the hell is reliable boy genius (ex-Cowboy quarterback) Garrett that was always reliable when he came into the huddle? Have his faculties for playing the game really left him?

I have no problem calling him out right now...and I'll have no problem congratulating him IF, AND WHEN, he turns this thing around.

[mojotrain]

I'll put them up for you in the morning. They are off from his Sept-Nov numbers but I don't put that all on him. In 2006, he was in his first season as the starter or even seeing the field. More importantly, his defense was giving up 36 points a game. 07 is on him, despite TO's high ankle sprain. They did have everything wrapped up, division & bye, though. Last season he was beat to hell, playing with a bad finger, a bad back and a bad set of ribs. My point is, it's not all on him. I don't even think it's mostly on him. It certainly looks like he has had excuses. No need to put up his Dec. stats. I'll just quit listening to the big guys.:) But I do feel like he is the weakest link. I want the Cowboys to do well.

[the_phoenix612]

It certainly looks like he has had excuses. No need to put up his Dec. stats. I'll just quit listening to the big guys.:) But do I feel like he is the weakest link. I want the Cowboys to do well.
That would be the people who let BRANDON FREAKING JACOBS go for 73 yards. Seriously, he's faster than the Cowboys' D??? The dude weighs 270!

[su4c]

The weakest link is the Michelin Man... not the guy who threw for 392 yards and 3 TDs. His quote after the game says it all.

[mojotrain]

That would be the people who let BRANDON FREAKING JACOBS go for 73 yards. Seriously, he's faster than the Cowboys' D??? The dude weighs 270!

He is tough! Once he takes a few steps you can't nick him and expect him to go down. I don't think the Dallas D wanted to get close to him.:eek:

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Folks need to wake up. His yards per game is up over last year. His completion percentage is up over last year. His yards per attempt is up. His int's a way down. The big concern when TO was released was the big play. He has more 20+ yard completions and more 40+ yard completions this season than last in one less game. He's very good. I want us to win in December as bad as anyone for many reasons. The biggest is so this nonsense about Romo can't win will end. How many times are we gonna do this with how many qb's before we realize it's hysterical behavior? Elway couldn't win the big one. Neither could Young. The Mannings were suspect. Hell, we labeled Peyton in college! Bradshaw was too dumb to win the big one. Favre was too wild to win the big one. On and on it goes and it's just silly.

Sir, you make too much sense!

And, count me as one of the folks who doubted Elway and Peyton. Elway made a fool out of me, when he was 37 and 38, and ditto for Peyton and Steve Young. Hell, Favre MIGHT do it again this year, at the old age of 40.

Oh, and as I said earlier, just like last year, nobody is paying attention to the Old Man and his crew out in Arizona.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

As a true blue cowboy fan, the only thing I'm going to say is this...

The roller-coaster ride of mediocrity needs to stop sooner-than-later...this ride has become freak'n nauseating...

I'm starting to look more-and-more in the direction of the OC, and his inept ability to call offensive plays...l stand corrected, his play calling has been nothing short of offensive.

Where the hell is reliable boy genius (ex-Cowboy quarterback) Garrett that was always reliable when he came into the huddle? Have his faculties for playing the game really left him?

I have no problem calling him out right now...and I'll have no problem congratulating him IF, AND WHEN, he turns this thing around.

To go along with what you're saying, when you have had players from other teams call your coaching staff out, and say how easy it was to gameplan for you, then there's a serious problem.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

The weakest link is the Michelin Man... not the guy who threw for 392 yards and 3 TDs. His quote after the game says it all.

Hell, as much as we've gotten on Wade, Garrett is probably a bigger problem.

Another thing, as you noted with the stats, Romo played the best game of his career....and they lost. We're talking about the same man who has taken more of the blame for this team's December woes, than anybody. But, for some reason, it was never an issue when someone dropped a pass, and I still have yet to hear anyone mention Barber's game changing fumble in the second quarter.

[su4c]

Hell, as much as we've gotten on Wade, Garrett is probably a bigger problem.

Another thing, as you noted with the stats, Romo played the best game of his career....and they lost. We're talking about the same man who has taken more of the blame for this team's December woes, than anybody. But, for some reason, it was never an issue when someone dropped a pass, and I still have yet to hear anyone mention Barber's game changing fumble in the second quarter.

You're probably right, but after a loss like that (especially with the Boys' December history) in the midst of a playoff hunt... when the coach comes out and says "Don't worry guys, it's alright" that just doesn't sit well with me. You're sending the wrong attitude towards the team.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

You're probably right, but after a loss like that (especially with the Boys' December history) in the midst of a playoff hunt... when the coach comes out and says "Don't worry guys, it's alright" that just doesn't sit well with me. You're sending the wrong attitude towards the team.

Couldn't agree more! What Wade needs to figure out, is that until this team gets productive in December, then the questions will continue to come. Win, and they go away! Keep losing, and this is what you get.

[CCCSportsFan]

The weakest link is the Michelin Man... not the guy who threw for 392 yards and 3 TDs. His quote after the game says it all.

My biggest issue with Wade is he enables the team to not be accountable. When he stands up in his press conferences and babbles and doesn't address the fact we've stunk it up ever December/January since 1996, he's letting people live on excuses.

Granted, I don't know what he is saying behind closed doors, but his demeanour suggests it's not a swift kick in the rear that the entire team, players and coaches, need right now.

[Maroondog]

My biggest issue with Wade is he enables the team to not be accountable. When he stands up in his press conferences and babbles and doesn't address the fact we've stunk it up ever December/January since 1996, he's letting people live on excuses.

Granted, I don't know what he is saying behind closed doors, but his demeanour suggests it's not a swift kick in the rear that the entire team, players and coaches, need right now.

It certainly appears that way to me as well.

Bottom line is Wade is held accountable for wins and losses no matter if its December or September. Winning and in the case of the Boyz, some much needed playoff success, will quiet most critics.

We'll see how it plays out, but all signs currently point to another failure at the end of the year. Stay tuned.

[15Adragon]

Win out and win the East or the 'boys are done and can choose their vacation destinations. Based on the NO game I think they have a shot. We'll see. I will be tuned in and hoping for the best.