Updated 5A Best Playoff Records

[KT2000]

These are updated through the 2005 playoffs. My apologies up front if any numbers are a little off. I've been trying to keep track myself.

1. Converse Judson (77-16, 83%)...6 state championships
2. Katy (51-14, 80%)...3 state championships
3. Odessa Permian (50-10-5, 77%)...3 state championships
4. Plano (44-15, 75%)...3 state championships
5. Midland Lee (44-16, 73%)...3 state championships

Most Region Championships

1. Converse Judson (15)
2. Odessa Permian (9)
3. Katy (8)
4. Aldine Eisenhower (6)
5. Austin Westlake (5)

In other words, we're all looking up at the Rockets. :D

[drgnbkr]

Hmmmm....23-1 is just not what it once was....:rolleyes:

[KT2000]

Southlake Carroll (23-1)...3 state championships

Better?

[drgnbkr]

Southlake Carroll (23-1)...3 state championships

Better?

Sorry, but it would seem that you would include the all-time best winning percentage in the 5-A playoffs in your numbers...I'm sure we'll hear all about longevity, etc.

[KT2000]

This kind of stat is typically measured by number of wins and not percentage.

Obviously, that's why Carroll is near the top of any overall list because their numbers from 3A and 4A are included.

[drgnbkr]

This kind of stat is typically measured by number of wins and not percentage.

Obviously, that's why Carroll is near the top of any overall list because their numbers from 3A and 4A are included.

I'm with you..expect slcdad and maybe others to barrage you with stats until your toenails curl...:D

[KT2000]

I've seen it all before ;) . Everyone knows the kind of program Carroll has by now.

[dragonsdaddy]

interestingly, with one more lp-slc game, slc will catch westlake on one list.not a sure thing, just interesting. where did you get these stats, btw?

[KT2000]

I've been counting them myself from past year's results over the last few years now. Used some DC back issues for the 80s and earlier 90s.

[dragonsdaddy]

I've been counting them myself from past year's results over the last few years now. Used some DC back issues for the 80s and earlier 90s.
some now defunct website used to have all these records about coaching records and team win-loss records. i thought maybe it was back operational.

[lonny23]

These are updated through the 2005 playoffs. My apologies up front if any numbers are a little off. I've been trying to keep track myself.

1. Converse Judson (77-15, 84%)...6 state championships
2. Odessa Permian (54-10, 84%)...3 state championships
3. Katy (51-14, 80%)...3 state championships
4. Plano (44-15, 75%)...3 state championships
5. Midland Lee (44-16, 73%)...3 state championships

Most Region Championships

1. Converse Judson (13)
2. Odessa Permian (9)
3. Katy (8)
4. Aldine Eisenhower (6)
5. Austin Westlake (5)

In other words, we're all looking up at the Rockets. :D
Judson has 15 region titles (82, 83, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 98, 02, 04, 05) and their playoff record is 77-16. The best part is they're 10-5 against Houston in the semis!:p

Good work, KT.

[Slim-Rob]

Judson has 15 region titles (82, 83, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 98, 02, 04, 05) and their playoff record is 77-16. The best part is they're 10-5 against Houston in the semis!:p

Good work, KT.

SSSHHHHHH!!!! That drops us to 83%, just under Permian.

But how bout that 88 through 96 deal.

[toonman]

These are updated through the 2005 playoffs. My apologies up front if any numbers are a little off. I've been trying to keep track myself.

1. Converse Judson (77-15, 84%)...6 state championships
2. Odessa Permian (54-10, 84%)...3 state championships
3. Katy (51-14, 80%)...3 state championships
4. Plano (44-15, 75%)...3 state championships
5. Midland Lee (44-16, 73%)...3 state championships

Most Region Championships

1. Converse Judson (13)
2. Odessa Permian (9)
3. Katy (8)
4. Aldine Eisenhower (6)
5. Austin Westlake (5)

In other words, we're all looking up at the Rockets. :D


I thought Permian has 4 State Championships at 5A : 1980 - 1984 - 1989 - 1991.

[toonman]

Southlake Carroll (23-1)...3 state championships

Better?

Not quite

Southlake Carroll (23-1, 96%)...3 state championships

Which then gives :-

1. Southlake Carroll (23-1, 96%)...3 state championships
2. Converse Judson (77-15, 84%)...6 state championships
3. Odessa Permian (54-10, 84%)...3 state championships
4. Katy (51-14, 80%)...3 state championships
5. Plano (44-15, 75%)...3 state championships
6. Midland Lee (44-16, 73%)...3 state championships

[LoneRocket]

I thought Permian has 4 State Championships at 5A : 1980 - 1984 - 1989 - 1991.
They were co-champs in 1984 with Beaumont French.

[WOS87]

Permian's 5A playoff record is actually 50-10-5, with 3 of those ties coming in games that Permian advanced on the tiebreaker, one of the ties eliminating them and the last tie coming in the 1984 Finals when it actually counted as a tie.

I've got the individual game-by-game scores listed for all programs with more than 50 all-time playoff wins at the link below.

Most All-Time Playoff Wins Statewide (http://texashsfootball.com/board/index.php?showtopic=21415)

[BRONCHO BOOSTER]

Permian Has 6 State Titles ----------add 65 And 72.

[Red_n_Black]

They're only talking about the 5A titles, Booster. 5A started in 1980. Incidentally, OHS played Permian to a 14-14 tie that year. Great football game!

[Favpack]

Sure seems Abilene High should be on there - pre-5A days? Lufkin has 4 regional championships in 5 years - which accounts for not much I guess on ths list.

[KT2000]

Lufkin only started to really pile up 5A playoff wins in '01, so they've got some work to do in order to catch the teams at the top now. Abilene had a 50 year+ hiatus from successful football before this decade.

[Favpack]

Lufkin only started to really pile up 5A playoff wins in '01, so they've got some work to do in order to catch the teams at the top now. Abilene had a 50 year+ hiatus from successful football before this decade.

50 years doesn't seem so long when it's just numbers on a chart:). I certainly didn't expect to see Lufkin on the list - just a nice run of regional finals since 2001 - which is really impressive save for the teams mentioned plus SLC.

[WOS87]

Most Region Championships

1. Converse Judson (15)
2. Odessa Permian (9)
3. Katy (8)
4. Aldine Eisenhower (6)
5. Austin Westlake (5)

In other words, we're all looking up at the Rockets. :D

5A Region Champions

State Champions in Blue
State Finalists in Red

http://members.aol.com/cboehme/thsf/5aregionschamps1.gif

* - forfeited

State Champs (Total Finalists)
Region I - 15 (25)
Region II - 13 (17)
Region III - 8 (23)
Region IV - 8 (20)

Most 5A Region Championships
Converse Judson - 15
Odessa Permian - 9
Katy - 8
Aldine Eisenhower - 6
Plano - 5
Euless Trinity - 5
Austin Westlake - 5
Southlake Carroll - 4
Midland Lee - 4
Aldine - 4
Houston Yates - 4
Lufkin - 4
Lake Highlands - 4
San Antonio Holmes - 4

[toonman]

5A Region Champions

State Champions in Blue
State Finalists in Red

http://members.aol.com/cboehme/thsf/5aregionschamps1.gif

* - forfeited

State Champs (Total Finalists)
Region I - 15 (25)
Region II - 13 (17)
Region III - 8 (23)
Region IV - 8 (20)

Most 5A Region Championships
Converse Judson - 15
Odessa Permian - 9
Katy - 8
Aldine Eisenhower - 6
Plano - 5
Euless Trinity - 5
Austin Westlake - 5
Southlake Carroll - 4
Midland Lee - 4
Aldine - 4
Houston Yates - 4
Lufkin - 4
Lake Highlands - 4
San Antonio Holmes - 4

Great table - It just shows how dominant Permian was in the 80's - At that time there was only one division and Permian won region 1 - six times in 10 years!

[South Texas]

http://www.judsonisd.org/education/sctemp/ba5ca6a5f11c28e895794ca5fd22e7c9/HISTORY.DOC

Here is one for the mighty rockets. Hopefully, it won't decline with the opening of the new school.

[WOS87]

I haven't had a chance to double check for errors but the vast majority of the following stats should be correct....

5A Playoff History Rankings

The following rankings were compiled from the complete 5A playoff histories 1980-2005

Most Playoff Wins in 5A (1980-2005)
(The records below reflect on-the-field win-loss records. Known forfeited games added in would affect the totals of at least a dozen different teams)

1. Converse Judson 75-17-1
2. Katy 51-14-0
3. Odessa Permian 50-10-5
4. Plano 44-16-0
5. Midland Lee 44-17-3
6. Houston Yates 35-21-2
7. Lake Highlands 30-13-1
8. Arlington Lamar 30-15-1
9. Austin Westlake 29-13-2
10. Lufkin 28-11-1
11. Aldine 28-19-2
12. Dallas Carter 27-21-1
13. Euless Trinity 26-16-1
14. San Antonio Madison 25-13-0
15. Houston Madison 24-20-2
16. Southlake Carroll 23-1-0
17. Aldine Eisenhower 23-12-1
18. Temple 22-12-2
19. Lewisville 22-14-1
20. San Antonio Holmes 22-16-0
21. Tyler John Tyler 21-12-0
22. Longview 21-17-0
23. Edinburg 21-17-0
24. San Antonio Marshall 20-9-2
25. Abilene Cooper 20-12-0

Highest Playoff Game Winning Percentage in 5A (1980-2005)
(Ties are counted as one-half of a win)

1. Southlake Carroll 95.83% 23-1-0
2. Beaumont French 91.67% 5-0-1
3. Converse Judson 81.18% 75-17-1
4. Odessa Permian 80.77% 50-10-5
5. Smithson Valley 78.95% 15-4-0
6. Katy 78.46% 51-14-0
7. Cedar Park 75.00% 3-1-0
8. Plano 73.33% 44-16-0
9. Midland 72.73% 8-3-0
10. Lufkin 71.25% 28-11-1
11. Midland Lee 71.09% 44-17-3
12. Marshall 70.00% 17-7-1
13. Lake Highlands 69.32% 30-13-1
14. Flower Mound Marcus 69.23% 18-8-0
15. Austin Westlake 68.18% 29-13-2
16. San Antonio Marshall 67.74% 20-9-2
17. Dickinson 66.67% 6-3-0
18. Arlington Lamar 66.30% 30-15-1
19. San Antonio Madison 65.79% 25-13-0
20. Aldine Eisenhower 65.28% 23-12-1
21. Spring Westfield 65.22% 14-7-2
22. Cypress Falls 64.29% 9-5-0
23. Texas City 64.29% 4-2-1
24. Temple 63.89% 22-12-2
25. Highland Park 63.89% 11-6-1

and the following ranking showed a surprisingly large gap between the top 4 and the remainder... with Southlake Carroll already in 5th after just 4 seasons

Highest Overall Combined Margin of Victory in the 5A Playoffs (1980-2005)
(The number is calculated by total points for minus total points against for every game, thus many programs have a negative value due to losing more games than they have won)

1. Converse Judson 1314
2. Odessa Permian 1235
3. Midland Lee 942
4. Katy 908
5. Southlake Carroll 466
6. Plano 413
7. Austin Westlake 412
8. Arlington Lamar 387
9. Houston Yates 354
10. Smithson Valley 294
11. Lewisville 283
12. Victoria High 279
13. San Antonio Marshall 278
14. Flower Mound Marcus 265
15. Temple 258
16. San Antonio Madison 248
17. Aldine Eisenhower 242
18. Galena Park North Shore 234
19. Spring Westfield 223
20. Lufkin 212
21. Lake Highlands 198
22. Abilene Cooper 194
23. Tyler John Tyler 191
24. Aldine 187
25. Euless Trinity 186

Number of Games over 0.500 All-time in 5A Playoff Games (1980-2005)
(This is actually a difficult number to consistently increase, requiring making it to at least the 3rd round of the playoffs just to increase it by 1. Losing in the 1st rnd gives you a 0-1 record with -1, losing in the 2nd rnd gives you a 1-1 record with 0 and a 3rd rnd loss leaves you with a 2-1 record or +1. Only 19 teams are 10 games above 0.500 after 26 seasons.)

1. Converse Judson 58
2. Odessa Permian 40
3. Katy 37
4. Plano 28
5. Midland Lee 27
6. Southlake Carroll 22
7. Lufkin 17
8. Lake Highlands 17
9. Austin Westlake 16
10. Arlington Lamar 15
11. Houston Yates 14
12. San Antonio Madison 12
13. Smithson Valley 11
14. San Antonio Marshall 11
15. Aldine Eisenhower 11
16. Marshall 10
17. Flower Mound Marcus 10
18. Temple 10
19. Euless Trinity 10

[lonny23]

I haven't had a chance to double check for errors but the vast majority of the following stats should be correct....

5A Playoff History Rankings

The following rankings were compiled from the complete 5A playoff histories 1980-2005

Most Playoff Wins in 5A (1980-2005)
(The records below reflect on-the-field win-loss records. Known forfeited games added in would affect the totals of at least a dozen different teams)

1. Converse Judson 75-17-1
2. Katy 51-14-0
3. Odessa Permian 50-10-5
4. Plano 44-16-0
5. Midland Lee 44-17-3
6. Houston Yates 35-21-2
7. Lake Highlands 30-13-1
8. Arlington Lamar 30-15-1
9. Austin Westlake 29-13-2
10. Lufkin 28-11-1
11. Aldine 28-19-2
12. Dallas Carter 27-21-1
13. Euless Trinity 26-16-1
14. San Antonio Madison 25-13-0
15. Houston Madison 24-20-2
16. Southlake Carroll 23-1-0
17. Aldine Eisenhower 23-12-1
18. Temple 22-12-2
19. Lewisville 22-14-1
20. San Antonio Holmes 22-16-0
21. Tyler John Tyler 21-12-0
22. Longview 21-17-0
23. Edinburg 21-17-0
24. San Antonio Marshall 20-9-2
25. Abilene Cooper 20-12-0

Highest Playoff Game Winning Percentage in 5A (1980-2005)
(Ties are counted as one-half of a win)

1. Southlake Carroll 95.83% 23-1-0
2. Beaumont French 91.67% 5-0-1
3. Converse Judson 81.18% 75-17-1
4. Odessa Permian 80.77% 50-10-5
5. Smithson Valley 78.95% 15-4-0
6. Katy 78.46% 51-14-0
7. Cedar Park 75.00% 3-1-0
8. Plano 73.33% 44-16-0
9. Midland 72.73% 8-3-0
10. Lufkin 71.25% 28-11-1
11. Midland Lee 71.09% 44-17-3
12. Marshall 70.00% 17-7-1
13. Lake Highlands 69.32% 30-13-1
14. Flower Mound Marcus 69.23% 18-8-0
15. Austin Westlake 68.18% 29-13-2
16. San Antonio Marshall 67.74% 20-9-2
17. Dickinson 66.67% 6-3-0
18. Arlington Lamar 66.30% 30-15-1
19. San Antonio Madison 65.79% 25-13-0
20. Aldine Eisenhower 65.28% 23-12-1
21. Spring Westfield 65.22% 14-7-2
22. Cypress Falls 64.29% 9-5-0
23. Texas City 64.29% 4-2-1
24. Temple 63.89% 22-12-2
25. Highland Park 63.89% 11-6-1

and the following ranking showed a surprisingly large gap between the top 4 and the remainder... with Southlake Carroll already in 5th after just 4 seasons

Highest Overall Combined Margin of Victory in the 5A Playoffs (1980-2005)
(The number is calculated by total points for minus total points against for every game, thus many programs have a negative value due to losing more games than they have won)

1. Converse Judson 1314
2. Odessa Permian 1235
3. Midland Lee 942
4. Katy 908
5. Southlake Carroll 466
6. Plano 413
7. Austin Westlake 412
8. Arlington Lamar 387
9. Houston Yates 354
10. Smithson Valley 294
11. Lewisville 283
12. Victoria High 279
13. San Antonio Marshall 278
14. Flower Mound Marcus 265
15. Temple 258
16. San Antonio Madison 248
17. Aldine Eisenhower 242
18. Galena Park North Shore 234
19. Spring Westfield 223
20. Lufkin 212
21. Lake Highlands 198
22. Abilene Cooper 194
23. Tyler John Tyler 191
24. Aldine 187
25. Euless Trinity 186

Number of Games over 0.500 All-time in 5A Playoff Games (1980-2005)
(This is actually a difficult number to consistently increase, requiring making it to at least the 3rd round of the playoffs just to increase it by 1. Losing in the 1st rnd gives you a 0-1 record with -1, losing in the 2nd rnd gives you a 1-1 record with 0 and a 3rd rnd loss leaves you with a 2-1 record or +1. Only 19 teams are 10 games above 0.500 after 26 seasons.)

1. Converse Judson 58
2. Odessa Permian 40
3. Katy 37
4. Plano 28
5. Midland lee 27
6. Southlake Carroll 22
7. Lufkin 17
8. Lake Highlands 17
9. Austin Westlake 16
10. Arlington Lamar 15
11. Houston Yates 14
12. San Antonio Madison 12
13. Smithson Valley 11
14. San Antonio Marshall 11
15. Aldine Eisenhower 11
16. Marshall 10
17. Flower Mound Marcus 10
18. Temple 10
19. Euless Trinity 10The Judson numbers on the field are correct, but 75-17-1 really looks like 77-16 because they beat Ike on penetrations and got a forfeit out of Carter.

[dragonsdaddy]

Great table - It just shows how dominant Permian was in the 80's - At that time there was only one division and Permian won region 1 - six times in 10 years!
i know there were 2 per district in the 84 season. someone might find out about earlier years.

[grassroots]

5A Region Champions

State Champions in Blue
State Finalists in Red

http://members.aol.com/cboehme/thsf/5aregionschamps1.gif

* - forfeited

State Champs (Total Finalists)
Region I - 15 (25)
Region II - 13 (17)
Region III - 8 (23)
Region IV - 8 (20)

Most 5A Region Championships
Converse Judson - 15
Odessa Permian - 9
Katy - 8
Aldine Eisenhower - 6
Plano - 5
Euless Trinity - 5
Austin Westlake - 5
Southlake Carroll - 4
Midland Lee - 4
Aldine - 4
Houston Yates - 4
Lufkin - 4
Lake Highlands - 4
San Antonio Holmes - 4




that is sad how the aldine schools dominated in the 90's and now they get dominated by spring branch memorial:(